Speaker 1: And you are listening to video Games to the Max.
Speaker 2: Hello and welcome. It's another edition of video Games. So
Speaker 2: the next time your host, Sean Goomer Hey with me
Speaker 2: as usual mister Mark Morrison, and well, we have some
Speaker 2: interesting stuff to talk about, so we don't have like
Speaker 2: a lot of gaming stuff to get into this week.
Speaker 2: It was kind of light for both of us, but
Speaker 2: you know, PlayStation had their big business summit thing where
Speaker 2: they talked about kind of like the present and future
Speaker 2: of PlayStation. And then also Nintendo had some confirmation of
Speaker 2: rumored news that was out last week, but I didn't
Speaker 2: want to talk about it yet because it wasn't totally confirmed.
Speaker 2: So we do have Nintendo switch to sales and they're
Speaker 2: a huge number. We'll talk about that and also kind
Speaker 2: of on the heels of that, and especially with the
Speaker 2: Xbox stuff last week too, we're gonna kind of talk
Speaker 2: about who might have the best strategy going into next
Speaker 2: gen if we take a look at everything from this gen,
Speaker 2: So we'll talk about that as well. Kind of like
Speaker 2: our big topic, Borderland Spoor is in fact going to
Speaker 2: be seventy dollars, so who knows if the Randy Pistchford
Speaker 2: effect had a positive or negative on that, and we
Speaker 2: finally got a new Nintendo Direct but it might not
Speaker 2: be probably what most people are expecting. We'll get into
Speaker 2: all those things and more on this episode of video
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Speaker 2: our buddy Randy. He brought back his Bad Brackets show,
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Speaker 2: and this week I was on along with Scott Sist
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Speaker 2: Robert Taylor, doing best video game Sequels. So I'll put
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Speaker 2: check it out at your leisure. It was a really
Speaker 2: fun episode, a lot of hard ones to have to decide,
Speaker 2: and you probably the final four is probably not the
Speaker 2: final four you would think you would probably pick sure
Speaker 2: as heck wasn't mine. So but hey, that's that's why
Speaker 2: you gotta you know, do the show play the games
Speaker 2: as they say. So we did play a few games here,
Speaker 2: you know, along with the whole summer game fest thing
Speaker 2: is usually Steam Nextfest, and I played one of the
Speaker 2: demos for a game that's gonna come out in a
Speaker 2: few weeks. But I'll go ahead and let Mark talk
Speaker 2: about his speaking in two here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just been hammering through that. Uh I just could
Speaker 3: be like Academy level green Cream Leef, I think, uh
Speaker 3: something about halfway through to give her take, Ye don't
Speaker 3: enjoy it? Uh I almost we started because like there
Speaker 3: are items you can get very early on in the
Speaker 3: game that like break the game with certain characters, and
Speaker 3: I was just gonna screw it, like I want I
Speaker 3: wander to play four more four hours of this?
Speaker 2: Fair enough?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I at this point I'm just kind of screwing
Speaker 3: with you because you keep asking me when I'm gonna
Speaker 3: set up the switch To, and they say, when I
Speaker 3: finish this game. So I'm gonna I'm gonna make it
Speaker 3: as long as possible.
Speaker 2: Now you're just doing it on our purpose to see.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I set up my switch and milk November
Speaker 3: or you know, review copy of something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna be sitting there talking about all this
Speaker 2: other stuff when Nintendo and you haven't set up the thing.
Speaker 2: I was thinking we were going to have like a
Speaker 2: whole segment on what does Mark think about the switch To?
Speaker 2: And then he goes, oh, no, I haven't even set
Speaker 2: it up yet, Like okay. Then there goes.
Speaker 3: That Young's got his though, he got the history Nintendo
Speaker 3: and he likes it. Yeah, Mario cart and he's just
Speaker 3: made Like how few physical games, like you know, actual
Speaker 3: games there are.
Speaker 2: I mean, anybody could have told you that was coming right, Like.
Speaker 3: He was like, so what what games were actually like
Speaker 3: on the cartridge? You know, not that game key thing?
Speaker 2: But like you know, I mean technically the game key
Speaker 2: cards are partially on the card because you have to
Speaker 2: put the carteres in to use it.
Speaker 3: So I imagine that is eventually going to be a
Speaker 3: nice vector for people like pirrating games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting how some companies are also counting it in
Speaker 2: different ways. That Capcom actually counts that it's digital right
Speaker 2: on their sales sheet, so gonna be interesting to see
Speaker 2: if other people will count it as that as well, right, hyeah.
Speaker 3: And I was like, well, I think Kirby is but
Speaker 3: to switch one game, and I think Mario Party is,
Speaker 3: but it's also switched one game, and I don't know Cyberpunk,
Speaker 3: which interesting.
Speaker 2: Ye, Cyberpunk is actually the only one I think of
Speaker 2: the switch two games that is. Oh no, also the
Speaker 2: the Rune Factory game that's also completely honest.
Speaker 3: Everyone wants that. Everyone wants that.
Speaker 2: You know, it's actually a good game. It's just not
Speaker 2: it's not like amazing, but it's supposed to be a
Speaker 2: good game. Well, probably one of the better ones, you know,
Speaker 2: out of that third party lineup that song switch to.
Speaker 3: So he keeps trying to convince me that Earth Defense
Speaker 3: for six is like for worth playing, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: you're gonna you're gonna to need to pay me to
Speaker 3: play that game, Like.
Speaker 2: You don't want to play, you don't want to just
Speaker 2: play just to play with them.
Speaker 3: No, I have standards. He doesn't. And he keeps trying
Speaker 3: to say like, oh, this one does does stuff that
Speaker 3: know what other Earth Events for Defense Force game has
Speaker 3: done before, And I'm like, what be good? Which is
Speaker 3: still fails at like you're talking about it's the same
Speaker 3: game as every every one of those goddamn things like.
Speaker 2: And that. I mean, yeah, true, So he only has
Speaker 2: Mario Kart.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he wants I mean he would he
Speaker 3: wants something, but there's nothing really out yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't even have that.
Speaker 3: He's just kind of hoping like everyone else at this
Speaker 3: point that you know, Donkey Kong is like halfway decent too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we'll have to see. We'll get to We'll
Speaker 2: get to Donkey Kong in a little bit here, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I'm glad he had to like to know that
Speaker 2: he likes it. Yeah, that's that's a good deal. Randy
Speaker 2: also just now got back into being able to get
Speaker 2: into gaming again after having to be off for a
Speaker 2: while because of his job or go into that World
Speaker 2: Series thing he had to broadcast. So he said that
Speaker 2: he just got game Pass again. He's played a little
Speaker 2: bit of Claire obscure, So maybe when we have him
Speaker 2: on in a few weeks, the wax poetic about this
Speaker 2: strending too, he'll.
Speaker 3: Need to get back to Claire obscure.
Speaker 2: And he yeah, he said that he did get a
Speaker 2: finished split fiction finally. He's been playing that with his wife,
Speaker 2: and he said that not as good as it takes too.
Speaker 2: He said it felt long at times, and it was
Speaker 2: kind of frustrating. His wife was also very much you know,
Speaker 2: she's she's not like one of these, Like she is
Speaker 2: very much a gamer as well. She's not like a
Speaker 2: casual gamer just playing because you know, it's something you
Speaker 2: can play with your your significant other or whatever. So
Speaker 2: like it was frustrating her with all the different mechanics
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, he said. And the story is
Speaker 2: not not as good as either, he said, so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. Oh yeah, Like it's very it's very
Speaker 3: like no no Dugs is gonna happen or you know,
Speaker 3: like very obvious.
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be interesting to see if it if
Speaker 2: it ends up making the like game of the Year
Speaker 2: conversation when we get to the end of the year,
Speaker 2: Like I definitely, you know, best family game and multiplayer game.
Speaker 2: That kind of thing that it'll definitely be there, but I.
Speaker 3: Think I might be nominated, but I think Mario World
Speaker 3: will take that, like no question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like probably so. But I'm just saying like, there's
Speaker 2: still quite a bit of stuff coming that we haven't
Speaker 2: gotten to in this year, and I wonder if because
Speaker 2: of how early Split Fiction came out, Uh, will it
Speaker 2: be a Game of the Year conversation when we get
Speaker 2: down to that, right?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean it's sold well in everything, right
Speaker 2: and it got great reviews.
Speaker 3: But you know, once they make that movie, it'll come
Speaker 3: back up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure. But all right, I guess to get
Speaker 2: to the one game that I played rather extensively, I
Speaker 2: had an idea to at least have played a couple
Speaker 2: of hours of The Altars before we did the show,
Speaker 2: because that's been getting with a good reviews and it's
Speaker 2: on game Pass and I've ot just was not letting
Speaker 2: me have it where I could play, and do you know,
Speaker 2: I just today at work was terrible, had no way
Speaker 2: to be able to play anything. So I was just like, well,
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna talk about the one game I got
Speaker 2: to play on Saturday, and then that's that's pretty much it.
Speaker 2: I guess, so the Steam Next Best ended today. Technically
Speaker 2: I downloaded a bunch of demos. I have no idea,
Speaker 2: I guess until I come back to them again when day.
Speaker 2: How many of them are still playable? Right, because you
Speaker 2: know how that works. Some of them don't work when
Speaker 2: that Next Best ends, and some of them still stay on.
Speaker 2: But I checked out a game that's available gonna be
Speaker 2: a little one everything on PlayStation, Xbox, Nintendo Switch, NPC
Speaker 2: called a Roughie in the Riverside. It's very like cartoony
Speaker 2: looking you probably, I think. I'm pretty sure they showed
Speaker 2: it off at the Switch Indie World, and I'm sure
Speaker 2: they've shown it off at other like indie showcases and
Speaker 2: the time that, you know, not just the Summer Game Fest,
Speaker 2: but other ones as well. It has this like raccoon
Speaker 2: ish looking character that has like a like a little
Speaker 2: cap on his head and he has a little bee
Speaker 2: for a buddy. And it's essentially, I want to say,
Speaker 2: if I'm going to compare it to something, it's almost
Speaker 2: like an indie version of Mario sixty four because it
Speaker 2: has a lot of the like, Okay, it's set in
Speaker 2: this overworld thing and you can explore the overworld area.
Speaker 2: But then it also has the same kind of like
Speaker 2: the levels require stars for you to unlock the next level,
Speaker 2: so you have to find the stars in the level
Speaker 2: that you're in, or get stars from around the overworld
Speaker 2: because there's various like NPC characters that have little things
Speaker 2: for you to do where you can get stars as well.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean it, it's so like if you
Speaker 2: like three D platformers, yeah, they don't make a lot
Speaker 2: of them. You know. We just had to talk about
Speaker 2: platonic like doing layoffs recently, and they.
Speaker 3: Were kind of got to support them when you can,
Speaker 3: you don't really care.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, So and this one comes out, you know, June's,
Speaker 2: so you know, if you're interested at all, I would
Speaker 2: definitely check it out. I had a lot of fun
Speaker 2: with it. Also sucks that it's a demo so it
Speaker 2: has no savings, so I had to wind up playing
Speaker 2: it like I think three different times because I had
Speaker 2: to exit out to do something on my laptop and
Speaker 2: then you know, lost it there. But Tad, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: you learn how See I am not very I'm trying
Speaker 2: to get back into the doing the PC gaming things
Speaker 2: since you know it's gonna probably be a while since
Speaker 2: I get my new laptop, so it's like, well, might
Speaker 2: as well get used out of this this one that
Speaker 2: I still have here. And also because I'm definitely not
Speaker 2: getting that Xbox handheld things too much money, even even
Speaker 2: doing something like a firm or whatever, I could use
Speaker 2: a laptop is like, just use like a little bit
Speaker 2: more of than that and get a pretty good one,
Speaker 2: you know. So I'd rather just put more money onto
Speaker 2: that and get the laptop than I need instead of
Speaker 2: buying a handheld that I may use for a while
Speaker 2: and then you know, wind up maybe not using as
Speaker 2: much as I thought.
Speaker 3: So well, I think that, I mean, the gaming handheld
Speaker 3: will age faster than a laptop. You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah that too. That's the thing is like, especially the
Speaker 2: Rog maybe not so much to steam Deck, but the
Speaker 2: Rog family, because they are a computer company, you know,
Speaker 2: they make their own laptops and stuff like that. They
Speaker 2: will be iterating on the Rog ally quite often. I
Speaker 2: don't know if Xbox. Now, look, don't quote me on this,
Speaker 2: because I have not heard anyone say this except for
Speaker 2: one person, So I'm really not sure if this is
Speaker 2: true and they just misheard, because I'd imagine that somebody
Speaker 2: would have put this out there. But according to you know,
Speaker 2: min Max that I was watching their like posts SGF stuff.
Speaker 2: Jennet Garcia, who had checked out the rog Ally, she
Speaker 2: said that they were told She was told that the
Speaker 2: Xbox Ally is going to apparently phase out. It's going
Speaker 2: to cause the other allies to phase out after those
Speaker 2: come out, So for a while, those will be the
Speaker 2: only versions of the rock Ally that you will be
Speaker 2: able to buy, which I could see Microsoft maybe putting
Speaker 2: out it, putting in enough money to being like, okay,
Speaker 2: we'll do this partnership. You help us out do this,
Speaker 2: but we're these are going to be the only versions
Speaker 2: of the rog Ally, so you're forced to have the
Speaker 2: Xbox system whether you want to.
Speaker 3: Or not, you know which I think if that was
Speaker 3: the case, people would just turned to the MSI Claw
Speaker 3: or the Yeah, eventually definitely.
Speaker 2: The Steam Deck. You know, they might already that way,
Speaker 2: you know, and then obviously Lenobo now using the SteamOS.
Speaker 3: I mean also, I could I could see them really
Speaker 3: trying to do a ws trying to really distance itself
Speaker 3: with the rock Ally name or you know, their own
Speaker 3: version of it because it is so not well received
Speaker 3: apparently so if they say that, oh, this has a
Speaker 3: micro more Microsoft quality than our own quality, then people
Speaker 3: might like get a little better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting if that ends up doing
Speaker 2: well or not with the Xbox branding. Does that move
Speaker 2: the needle at allll?
Speaker 3: Here's the other thing I could I think what they
Speaker 3: should do. I mean, I don't know if to like,
Speaker 3: if this is true or if it's like locked in,
Speaker 3: but I think ass would have a better shot as
Speaker 3: actually just making like their own more stripped down version
Speaker 3: of the ally. Yeah, Like, if you want the Xbox Ones,
Speaker 3: you know with whatever game bar bullshit and all that
Speaker 3: other crap, go ahead. But if you want just a
Speaker 3: more more like, here's our version of the Steam Machine
Speaker 3: or Steam Deck. That's because even in the price of
Speaker 3: the Xbox Ones, I said they're six and eight hundred dollars.
Speaker 3: If they really like four.
Speaker 2: Hundred, I think they said they might go down to
Speaker 2: five hundred for the regular Yeah, yeah, but even then
Speaker 2: that's still expensive. That's the whole process of a p
Speaker 2: S five, you know, right.
Speaker 3: But funny enough, that's not a price on Xbox anymore.
Speaker 2: So exactly exactly, it'll be interesting, Yeah, if they like
Speaker 2: Xbox rog ally will be cheaper than an Xbox Series X.
Speaker 2: Still not cheaper than the S, but you know, right
Speaker 2: that is that is the S equivalent, I guess, so
Speaker 2: I guess it would make sense. So I mean, that's
Speaker 2: it for us as far as the gaming front goes.
Speaker 2: But let's get into PlayStation's business summit thing that they
Speaker 2: had earlier this week. Essentially, it was kind of them
Speaker 2: talking about like their strategy going forward, which we'll get
Speaker 2: into more of like everybody else's strategy looking into the
Speaker 2: Poastation six, so I won't talk about we'll save the
Speaker 2: PlayStation six part of things, which wasn't a lot but still.
Speaker 2: Also they did reveal the PlayStation plus extra and premium games,
Speaker 2: which we already knew about FBC Firebreak, which that will
Speaker 2: probably be out by the time you're watching or listening
Speaker 2: to this because it comes out on the seventeenth. That's
Speaker 2: also on Game Pass by the way. So I'm going
Speaker 2: to see if I can play with Randy, and I
Speaker 2: know you don't have either one.
Speaker 3: So person inserted in later. Yeah, here's the thing, like
Speaker 3: that ain't your type of game.
Speaker 2: Hey, but I love the Control universe, so I might
Speaker 2: give it a shot.
Speaker 3: Just to s that's the same like oh, metagar uh,
Speaker 3: Survive is worthwhile.
Speaker 2: So no, Hey, there's people that don't that like online
Speaker 2: that maybe they want to play whatever that metal Gear
Speaker 2: Online thing is going to be, uh, which they haven't
Speaker 2: said technically, but you know, I'm gonna just check it
Speaker 2: out to see how it is if obviously if if
Speaker 2: the lower stuff, I can watch it without having really
Speaker 2: going far into the game, but I do want to
Speaker 2: see how they kind of put that in and everything.
Speaker 2: But as far as the rest of it goes. We
Speaker 2: love Katamori Reroll plus the World Reverie. That's a really
Speaker 2: good collection of the remasters of the Kadamary games.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: That's on both pips four are using Chronicles hundred Heroes.
Speaker 2: You know Mark enjoyed that game. Yep, you say, Endless
Speaker 2: Dungeon five Nights of Freddy's Help Wanted to out of
Speaker 2: Field twenty forty two. And then also the is this
Speaker 2: the original of those X the Conspiracy that's going to
Speaker 2: be on premium or is that a different uh that's
Speaker 2: coming to PlayStation premium as well. And also they did
Speaker 2: talk about PlayStation Plus in this business summit thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that sex is the PS two version.
Speaker 2: Okay, so it is the PS two version, all right. Good.
Speaker 2: They did talk about PlayStation Plus in this section, and
Speaker 2: they talked about how it has increased now that that
Speaker 2: we have more subscribers representing thirty eight percent of the
Speaker 2: total subscriber base or in the extra or premium tier,
Speaker 2: which has gone up from was it seventeen and thirteen
Speaker 2: percent twenty two and sixteen percent as of fiscal year
Speaker 2: last year, and then he kind of talked about this
Speaker 2: is the reason why they feel like they could raise
Speaker 2: description prices because of more people being in those higher tiers,
Speaker 2: so it would justify them feeling that they could. Of course,
Speaker 2: this also comes on the heels of xbosate rumors about
Speaker 2: Xbox Game Pass going up as well, also because you know,
Speaker 2: they have not raised prices on the PlayStation five whereas
Speaker 2: Xbox did, so this could be a way for them
Speaker 2: to get that revenue back that they did not. They're
Speaker 2: not doing it by raising the hardware. Do you do
Speaker 2: you see them raising the price of the PS Plus
Speaker 2: and how much do you feel like it gets to
Speaker 2: the point where it's just not viable if you're raising
Speaker 2: the prices of those tiers which are already at what
Speaker 2: fifteen and or was it sixteen? And okay, fifteen and
Speaker 2: eighteen respective at this point?
Speaker 3: What about as make a higher one or.
Speaker 2: A well, okay, it's eighteen a month for the ps
Speaker 2: plus premium, and then I think it's it's like sixteen
Speaker 2: for extra.
Speaker 3: Okay, So uh, I could see a reason like maybe
Speaker 3: like a dollar or two or just having another extense
Speaker 3: of would be twenty ah and then you get it,
Speaker 3: you know, a discount if it's uh, you know, if
Speaker 3: you buy a year or something like you always do, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: but I don't know, like for that price, Like it's
Speaker 3: kind of dumb, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean obviously it all depends on you as
Speaker 2: a person what you're willing to spend for that.
Speaker 3: Right, Like I mean, let's if you don't care about yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, Katamari or the Hunter called a wild like
Speaker 3: when you what are you spending the money on?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean obviously it doesn't really affect people that
Speaker 2: do these things by year. If you're doing it monthly,
Speaker 2: it kind of affects you more when they raise the price.
Speaker 2: So you know, I would say that I could see
Speaker 2: them definitely doing twenty dollars for premium and then you
Speaker 2: know seventeen or like seventeen for extra. Yeah, I would
Speaker 2: definitely say that if Tony didn't have a habit of
Speaker 2: removing their own first party games from the service, I
Speaker 2: would say it's definitely more worth it if you don't
Speaker 2: have the ability to buy all those even though they
Speaker 2: do go on sale Pninzendo and you can get them
Speaker 2: a lot of them really cheap. So you know, that's
Speaker 2: up to you obviously on that. But then you know,
Speaker 2: at the rate that Sony keeps remastering and remaking things,
Speaker 2: you know, those little price drops aren't as significant anymore
Speaker 2: because now you have nicer versions, which you know justifies
Speaker 2: them charging you more right for them. So that's the
Speaker 2: thing I would say on that. But they have really
Speaker 2: upped it recently on the premium tier. Like for a while, man,
Speaker 2: it was not worth subscribing to that thing at all.
Speaker 2: They were really bad about putting, you know, having a
Speaker 2: regular cadence and releases. Now they've kind of keep timing
Speaker 2: it around, like when there's another remaster happening and they
Speaker 2: have those games like they recently had the Twisted Metal
Speaker 2: games come in because they know that the season two
Speaker 2: of Twisted Metals about to start airing or is their
Speaker 2: I don't even know right now.
Speaker 3: I think it's took a few weeks or.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's about it's gonna start, like by the time
Speaker 2: we get through this month. But you know, by the
Speaker 2: time we get to the end of the month, it
Speaker 2: will have started airing. So it makes sense to have
Speaker 2: more Twisted Metal games on there, you know, I'm just.
Speaker 3: Have the good Twisted metal games.
Speaker 2: Well, they already had one and two I think previously,
Speaker 2: so they added what like three and four was and
Speaker 2: I could see them, you know, doing the same with
Speaker 2: like Middle gir Solid for August, right, So.
Speaker 3: It makes sense that I gotta imagine that Twisted Metal
Speaker 3: show after this season is done, like they're gonna nope,
Speaker 3: we're good.
Speaker 2: We'll see you know, you never know if it does well.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's not like Peacock has a ton going on,
Speaker 2: you know as far as the shows. I mean, you
Speaker 2: have the the staples that are still around. Poker Face
Speaker 2: just came out with season two. But it feels like,
Speaker 2: you know, when we got out of that pandemic era
Speaker 2: where people really cut back, they don't have a tonight.
Speaker 2: So you know, I would I wouldn't be surprised that
Speaker 2: maybe they keep them around for another season, but obviously
Speaker 2: depends on how well it does. Yeah yeah, so I
Speaker 2: mean play and plus if it does go up in price,
Speaker 2: not surprised. Really, everything keeps going up in price, So
Speaker 2: why wouldn't PlayStation do it if they are getting more
Speaker 2: subscribers to it, especially because you do have to at
Speaker 2: least be subscribe to the Essential tier to be able
Speaker 2: to use online play, so why not. Another thing they
Speaker 2: talked about is their PC strategy. They double down again
Speaker 2: on they are not going to just release everything on PC,
Speaker 2: and in fact they iterate, you know, they Herbert Holst
Speaker 2: pretty much said that they are being very selective of
Speaker 2: what they put on PC and when they put it
Speaker 2: on PC because they want to make make sure that
Speaker 2: essentially PlayStation five owners get the most they can out
Speaker 2: of it, especially because also the PC version will be
Speaker 2: better graphically than at least what the traditional PS five
Speaker 2: can offer, and even the PS five pro to a
Speaker 2: certain extent, so you know, they want to make sure
Speaker 2: that they're doing right by the psive owner, which is
Speaker 2: that's great to hear. If you're a PS five, you know,
Speaker 2: only console gamer or whatnot, then you have all these
Speaker 2: games and you want to make sure that, hey, you're
Speaker 2: not playing there. But I honestly think at this point, like, okay,
Speaker 2: definitely I understand for the games that haven't come out yet,
Speaker 2: like The Ghost of Yotas and things like that, but
Speaker 2: you know, the older games and still haven't come out
Speaker 2: to PC, Like, are you really losing anything by the
Speaker 2: fact that they're not there? I mean, if we're talking
Speaker 2: about even two year old games at this point, like,
Speaker 2: what more are you getting or losing by not having
Speaker 2: it on PC?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not saying that they need to just
Speaker 2: start porting everything and porting it immediately and everything comes
Speaker 2: out within a two month span or whatever. You can
Speaker 2: still pick and choose, and I definitely understand there. You
Speaker 2: know you're gonna wait at least a year's strategy for
Speaker 2: the PC version because it does make it to where
Speaker 2: the shorter you put the window the more the less
Speaker 2: the more that they will be willing to wait. And
Speaker 2: they won't. I mean, obviously PC players, they're the hardcore
Speaker 2: PC Master Race people. They will definitely wait around. They
Speaker 2: don't care. You know, they want to play on Steam.
Speaker 2: They will play on Steam. But I mean, like, do
Speaker 2: you see the point in this of a still keeping
Speaker 2: a lot of things not on PC yet.
Speaker 3: Some stuff sure like I could you know, I don't
Speaker 3: think astrobot will ever actually hit PC, or if it
Speaker 3: does it I'll still like a year or we'll see.
Speaker 3: But I mean, the one, the one that ever wants
Speaker 3: is still bloodborne, and at this point I gotta imagine
Speaker 3: Sony holding it up and not from soft.
Speaker 2: It might be a Miyazaki thing because I wonder if
Speaker 2: he wants to be involved in that in some way,
Speaker 2: and he it's not like he's just his projects are
Speaker 2: just slowing down or anything.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, I mean that's I mean, that's like, uh oh,
Speaker 3: you know he's being stretched too thin then, or you know,
Speaker 3: he may want to be involved, but it's like, well,
Speaker 3: you got eight other things going on at once, and
Speaker 3: this is just gonna be like a relatively simple port job.
Speaker 3: I don't mean remaster for it, I just being imported
Speaker 3: over Like why why do you need to be involved?
Speaker 3: Or you know, like you know, you might take a
Speaker 3: meeting every week at the every Friday and see like
Speaker 3: how well I was progressing tech like technologically, but like
Speaker 3: you don't be in every meet every meeting you know,
Speaker 3: for the next years while they poured it over, like
Speaker 3: just give your stamp and be like all right, it
Speaker 3: looks good or look that looks bad. Do it over like.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean for the most part, most of Sony's
Speaker 2: like lineup of the I think Spider Man two recently
Speaker 2: was on it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that was a pretty iffy port though, even
Speaker 3: compared to the first one. Liked definitely. Yeah, Like they
Speaker 3: didn't get it out early for reviews, and then when
Speaker 3: it came out as kind of buggy part, you know,
Speaker 3: part of the Spider Man fun, but and they had
Speaker 3: like take more time like fixing it than they want
Speaker 3: to do.
Speaker 2: I think for the most part, everything that's recently come
Speaker 2: out is there. Yeah, you know, with tell Blade being
Speaker 2: the most recent of all of them, and that has
Speaker 2: already sold a million copies. I mean obviously that that
Speaker 2: has a different factors to it, uh that you know,
Speaker 2: we can we can try to walk around it all
Speaker 2: we want, but definitely there is a part of that
Speaker 2: community that definitely bought that because they wanted to mess
Speaker 2: with the mods and they wanted to support that to
Speaker 2: also you know, be able to be like oh screw
Speaker 2: the West and the way they do character models and
Speaker 2: all that stuff, right, but look it still it is
Speaker 2: a great game. Let's let's not belittle that all.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: And definitely it's great to see this shift up put
Speaker 2: it on PC where it's doing well. So it does
Speaker 2: show that that strategy works for the most part. Also,
Speaker 2: they did a really good thing that they should have
Speaker 2: done a long time ago, which is removed the PSN requirement. Finally,
Speaker 2: after they think they announced that, like at the beginning
Speaker 2: of the year that they were going to do that,
Speaker 2: they did the removing Herman Holt from the co CEO thing.
Speaker 2: They announced it and then didn't do it.
Speaker 3: So they also just removed a lot of the worldwide
Speaker 3: restrictions on.
Speaker 2: Their games, which that's that you need that for PC.
Speaker 2: People are used to the whole buy your PC play
Speaker 2: it thing, not don't need to have it behind a
Speaker 2: gate of I gotta have this or I gotta have that.
Speaker 2: You know. Even Ubisoft has learned that with the please
Speaker 2: don't force the uv soft connect thing on me, uh deal.
Speaker 2: So it's it's good to see that Sony is is
Speaker 2: kind of learning to adapt with that. I understand why
Speaker 2: maybe you still need it for multiplayer, but the single
Speaker 2: player games like why it's just unnecessary, right, I'm really
Speaker 2: thinking about, like the only things that are really missing
Speaker 2: are like the older library, like all the older games
Speaker 2: from those same studios, you know, like the older Ratchets
Speaker 2: and right, you know, like like this and things like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, some of that stuff I could see, like PS
Speaker 3: three stuff especially, is really is kind of tricky on
Speaker 3: on anything else. Like that's why they actually haven't been
Speaker 3: a ton of like PS three ports, Like you know,
Speaker 3: usually it'sket taken if it's like a previous generation game
Speaker 3: or you know, two generations together take the using the
Speaker 3: use the Xbox or sixty version, right, it's way easier.
Speaker 3: But yeah, if they poured it over, if they made
Speaker 3: like PC versions of like Tokyo Jungle or uh trash
Speaker 3: Pan Act or you know, ship like that would be awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just think it's it's almost kind of like
Speaker 2: the Xbox bringing stuff over to the PlayStation kind of
Speaker 2: thing of Like you gotta understand, they got to also
Speaker 2: like make money when they pourt that over, and if
Speaker 2: it's not have an audience, they're not going to bring
Speaker 2: that over either. So it sucks because I agree with you,
Speaker 2: I'd love to see these franchises that like Sony just
Speaker 2: won't even bother with anymore get a lease on life
Speaker 2: on PC.
Speaker 3: I mean whatever, what I've always said is they Nintendo
Speaker 3: or not sorry Nintendo, but Sony a Microsoft shuld have
Speaker 3: just built a really good, you know, PC emulator and
Speaker 3: you know, we'll plug in the game, plugging around, and
Speaker 3: we'll sell it. And the problem is like once that
Speaker 3: ever gets out, it's instantly cracked open and you can't
Speaker 3: put anything on it. But right exactly, uh, you know,
Speaker 3: that's ultimately what you kind of have to do because
Speaker 3: you know I can't. I mean, people are doing that
Speaker 3: three sixty disassembler thing, which is kind of cool, but
Speaker 3: that's a good game by game basis, and that takes
Speaker 3: a while and it's not legitimate, let's say, but still
Speaker 3: but still a worthwhile. Like Microsoft should be buying that
Speaker 3: tool and doing that during the work themselves, but they
Speaker 3: don't want to. You know how much what's the cost
Speaker 3: gain benefit of that? Probably not a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, probably not a lot. But you know, so far,
Speaker 2: this PC strategy is mostly working for point station. Most
Speaker 2: of the negative stuff has been when they've tried to
Speaker 2: do the PSN requirement or just support is not good
Speaker 2: or has issues and then people have to go get
Speaker 2: refunds like which brought him into and got a war
Speaker 2: Rad and the Rock for that matter as well, or
Speaker 2: last of us support one also I think had lots
Speaker 2: of issues too. So it also doesn't help that they
Speaker 2: only have like that one studio that seems to be
Speaker 2: doing all the ports, and so you know, you can't
Speaker 2: bog them down either. But I mean also another important
Speaker 2: move is that the PS five has finally surpassed the
Speaker 2: PS four as far as active player base as of
Speaker 2: you know, last year it was like forty nine million
Speaker 2: on each and now the PS five has taken a
Speaker 2: larger shirt than the PS four. Finally, combined they have
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty four million monthly active users, which
Speaker 2: is up even from the ninety seven million that they
Speaker 2: had last year. You know, this is also kind of
Speaker 2: leading them into talking about why, you know, the PlayStation
Speaker 2: six still needs to have the same kind of focus,
Speaker 2: because get what it's done for the PS five and
Speaker 2: PS four. As you know, people have continued to buy
Speaker 2: the PS five and then you know you have people
Speaker 2: still stuck on the PS four because of their live
Speaker 2: service game that they're playing, so it's playable on that system,
Speaker 2: you know, or whatever reason they're using it for. Like,
Speaker 2: this is a good thing. I mean, this is this
Speaker 2: is finally the great news they've probably been wanting to hear,
Speaker 2: right of people seem to finally be adopting PS five's
Speaker 2: and finally letting go of the p S fours. Right,
Speaker 2: but you think that that's is that a problem necessarily
Speaker 2: that that people are still kind of stuck on the
Speaker 2: old system or.
Speaker 3: I mean at this point it might be a bit
Speaker 3: it might be a problem of economics from there in which.
Speaker 2: Is valid, Right, It's definitely valid, not.
Speaker 3: Like except for like very specific franchises and that releasing
Speaker 3: new craft on the PS four anymore. Like, yes, call
Speaker 3: Duty will still be on it, but how much is
Speaker 3: that version kind of going to be well gimped or
Speaker 3: you know, lesser than the PS five and the current
Speaker 3: current generation versions. Right, That's that happens all the time.
Speaker 3: I mean that happened my generation and even generation before that,
Speaker 3: So yeah.
Speaker 2: It will eventually happen. Yeah to the switch to as
Speaker 2: well with the third party, I mean, I'm sure DLSS
Speaker 2: will help a lot so that they can you'll still
Speaker 2: get third party games shown up on switch To for
Speaker 2: a while, much much longer than you will would you
Speaker 2: You did with Switch one, which was outdated from the
Speaker 2: moment that that console released, whereas Switch two's not outdated
Speaker 2: right now. It will eventually become outdated, but yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: for the time being, it's fine, I'm going to switch
Speaker 2: gears pun intended, I guess to talking about switch To
Speaker 2: so we can kind of like have this all out
Speaker 2: there and then we can talk about the moving the
Speaker 2: strategy forward switch To. Last week, there was like reports
Speaker 2: from leakers that switch To had sold three million, but
Speaker 2: there was nothing official from Nintendo yet until they finally
Speaker 2: made the announcement at the beginning of this week that
Speaker 2: within the first four days of the switch To releasing,
Speaker 2: they sold three point five million units globally. They sold
Speaker 2: over a million units in Japan. The official numbers not
Speaker 2: out because they don't have numbers from the Mind Nintendo store,
Speaker 2: which would have for sure pushed it over a million.
Speaker 2: I think it's around like nine hundred thousand or something
Speaker 2: like that, just counting from retail without the Mind Nintendo store.
Speaker 2: But concerning they had like two million pre orders on
Speaker 2: the Nintendo Store just in Japan only for sure. That's
Speaker 2: that pushed it over a million in Japan. It did
Speaker 2: really well in Europe, but it didn't outdo like PS five,
Speaker 2: PS four or Xbox Series in Europe. Europe's always kind
Speaker 2: of been weird about, like you definitely have fans of
Speaker 2: each console in Europe and the UK as opposed to
Speaker 2: like Japan, America, other parts of Asia, whatever, all have
Speaker 2: like their specific one that they really like or cater
Speaker 2: to more. And that's always I always find that interesting.
Speaker 2: But still to sell three point five million units globally
Speaker 2: within four days, that is nothing to sneeze that they hold.
Speaker 2: Now they broke the record in the US of one
Speaker 2: point one million, beating out the PS four. It took
Speaker 2: them a whole month to sell two point seven million switches.
Speaker 2: Do you think that this vodes well for them to
Speaker 2: start out this well without with only having really just
Speaker 2: one major game at launch with Mario Carr World. Obviously
Speaker 2: it's the big.
Speaker 3: Rue factory game, right yeah. Yeah?
Speaker 2: And also, like I think, was it seventy nine percent
Speaker 2: of people bought Mario Kart were right, So what are
Speaker 2: the other twenty one percent of people buying?
Speaker 3: And rest of the wild Again, yeah, well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tears of the Kingdom was the third highest selling
Speaker 2: physical game, and then Cyberpunk twenty seventy seven was like
Speaker 2: number two.
Speaker 3: I know it was really fun on this well yeah
Speaker 3: my thought. Okay, Switch Chicks in June fifth, so that
Speaker 3: was eleven days ago. Yeah, six days ago that lineus
Speaker 3: tached tips guy put up a video going the most
Speaker 3: click baity are like title ever Going is the switch
Speaker 3: to already in trouble. It's like, dude, it's been five
Speaker 3: fucking days, like right talking about you know, and you're
Speaker 3: also like a PC guy like he did give it.
Speaker 2: A good h lack review overall when he.
Speaker 3: Did it, right, Yeah, but yeah, it is. It is.
Speaker 3: I really just like his like doom saying about this
Speaker 3: or do you know doom and gloom about it, and
Speaker 3: it's like shouldn't you wait wait.
Speaker 2: Like a month or you know, like right exactly, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know, I see it, of course. It's I think
Speaker 3: I think it's a kind of testament to Nintendo that
Speaker 3: like stock isn't great for this thing, but it seems
Speaker 3: a lot better than it has been.
Speaker 2: For I mean that's one thing that helps. Obviously. Matt
Speaker 2: Piss is the mis Matt pisca teller, brought it up. Yeah,
Speaker 2: let's be honest, we the PlayStation five, had it not
Speaker 2: had the console shortage, probably would have sold a heck
Speaker 2: of a lot more, but because of that shortage, they
Speaker 2: only sold like two point one million. And then you know,
Speaker 2: switch to it's everywhere. It's like, yeah, you can still
Speaker 2: walk into a store today in a lot of places
Speaker 2: and buy it. So that just shows how much stock
Speaker 2: they have.
Speaker 3: Also they're not like real like yeah, it's actually in
Speaker 3: stock like locally by me, and like Nintendo still has
Speaker 3: them for sale. Ah, So I think I think it's
Speaker 3: also a good thing that like you know, scalpers kind
Speaker 3: of get asked out on this. Yes, definitely, I want
Speaker 3: to be scummy about it. I think it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Like I mean, take notes Sony and Microsoft for next gen.
Speaker 2: This is what this is how you do it?
Speaker 3: Well partially if you had better online well, I mean
Speaker 3: Microsoft and Sony will at least be able that you
Speaker 3: can buy those consoles on Amazon, so that'll help.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that too. But I mean and Sony does have
Speaker 2: its like the Sony Store, which is pretty good about
Speaker 2: taking the scoppers out some they still can't fight them
Speaker 2: completely because we saw what happened with the anniversary.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah or whatever.
Speaker 2: I mean, Look, this is this is amazing for Nintendo. Uh,
Speaker 2: it's all about what you do from here. You know,
Speaker 2: for sure you will continue to sell switches switch tos,
Speaker 2: especially with the holidays coming up. You're gonna have all
Speaker 2: those people that didn't buy one now. They definitely are
Speaker 2: going to be waiting and being like, Okay, there's not
Speaker 2: anything besides Mario Carl World really that I want. Maybe
Speaker 2: I don't buy it right now, but by the time
Speaker 2: you get to November December, they definitely should have a
Speaker 2: lot more, right.
Speaker 3: And hopefully by then they'll have If not, I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't have a mark like a new mar game
Speaker 3: in November, but I hope play by then they'll have
Speaker 3: announce something, you know, Honesty two or Mario Kart sixty
Speaker 3: five or something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then here comes the announcement which Nintendo today
Speaker 2: made two big announcements this week. Honestly, it's just so
Speaker 2: ridiculous that Nintendo has to use this app to announce
Speaker 2: things and then they don't let you take things off
Speaker 2: of it to be able to use.
Speaker 3: So like two years behind it, behind the times chechnology,
Speaker 3: you know, from a tech perspective.
Speaker 2: So you know, if we didn't have the internet, Nintendo,
Speaker 2: I think this would actually benefit you. But yo, you
Speaker 2: post something on that app, it's going to be on
Speaker 2: Twitter in like ten seconds, right, and then it's going
Speaker 2: to be put out on the gaming news sites and stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they won't get the video of it, which I guess
Speaker 2: that's the whole point. You get to reap the benefits
Speaker 2: of getting to show, hey, well, you know the video
Speaker 2: that we have on Nintendo Today got watched by gazillion
Speaker 2: million people or whatnot, which you know, on YouTube you
Speaker 2: could actually go and tell people, Okay, this is how
Speaker 2: many people watched it. And I get that Nintendo doesn't
Speaker 2: get as much revenue from that, even if they get
Speaker 2: any revenue from the Nintendo Today app at all. But
Speaker 2: you know, the music thing, I kind of understand, right,
Speaker 2: Like they are very big on owning their stuff. They
Speaker 2: don't want other people, you know, having to give royalties
Speaker 2: to Spotify and YouTube and all stuff. Like I get
Speaker 2: the music part of it, but the whole news announcement
Speaker 2: part of it is kind of silly really, But whatever,
Speaker 2: you know, Nintendo does their thing. The probably the bigger
Speaker 2: of the two announcements is that there will be a
Speaker 2: Nintendo Direct has been weird for like a while, but
Speaker 2: it's gonna be all about Donkey Kong Bonanza. It's gonna
Speaker 2: be fifteen minutes of Donkey Kong Bonanza. So if you
Speaker 2: weren't sold, which a lot of people weren't on the
Speaker 2: stuff that they showed during the Treehouse, you can watch
Speaker 2: fifteen more minutes of it.
Speaker 3: Isn't this when they finally announced this as Rogan has
Speaker 3: wifed him in the.
Speaker 2: Game, that that would be you know, kind of uh
Speaker 2: something you could use on maybe mainstream media there. How
Speaker 2: are you feeling about Donkey Kong by the way, like
Speaker 2: are you kind of.
Speaker 3: Like I A would say, I'm still taking the kind
Speaker 3: of wait and see, like if their V scores are good,
Speaker 3: I may pick it try to figure it out. But
Speaker 3: you know, it's been a long as well since since
Speaker 3: the Donkey three Donkey Kalling games come out, so it's well,
Speaker 3: it has Cranky Kong or what it had, the what
Speaker 3: had the instead of the DK rapidly the DK dub stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, is they're gonna have other kN Kong character
Speaker 2: besides I Diddy seems.
Speaker 3: Like a surefire I didn't get you's like the one.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure that it'll be like, you know,
Speaker 3: you'll see Candy Kong, or you'll see I Forget the
Speaker 3: Orang Dixie all the other teaty characters that like, it'll
Speaker 3: be like quest givers or they might swap into like
Speaker 3: for temporary help or something. But like, DK sixty four
Speaker 3: is such a massive game because you have to go
Speaker 3: to this lupost five times, you know, because each character
Speaker 3: has their own objectives and ship to do, and it's like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, this takes right forever. So I don't
Speaker 3: go do that, you know, least I hope not.
Speaker 2: M Yeah, I mean it is supposedly, we don't know
Speaker 2: for service, supposed to see made by the Mario Odyssey team,
Speaker 2: which I love the crap out of Mayo Odyssey. So
Speaker 2: I'm just I've hope that in this fifteen minutes they
Speaker 2: do like at least show you what the gameplay is
Speaker 2: going to be. This is the gameplay loop, but DK
Speaker 2: can do other things. It's not just destroying things twenty
Speaker 2: four to seven, and that's kind of all it is.
Speaker 2: And but you know, it looks fun. I just worry
Speaker 2: about for seventy dollars, like I don't want to buy
Speaker 2: something and then get bored of it within five hours
Speaker 2: and then it's like, oh right, you know I could
Speaker 2: have spent that seventy bucks on buying like three games
Speaker 2: instead that or something.
Speaker 3: You know. So that's why I buy physically. So if
Speaker 3: you don't like you're canas still a back real quick
Speaker 3: and get at least bucks out of it.
Speaker 2: Which I did do that with my Martyr cart eight Deluxe,
Speaker 2: and I couldn't do it with ring Fit because you know,
Speaker 2: you can't trade that in. But I did it with
Speaker 2: The Breath of the World and marcard A Deluxe and
Speaker 2: I got like thirty bucks, and I put that towards
Speaker 2: getting a pro controller too, so right which should be here,
Speaker 2: I think Wednesday or Thursday, so I can give thoughts
Speaker 2: on that, just because I want to be able to
Speaker 2: give the whole thing to an Eya and she wants
Speaker 2: to use the the regular pro controller she can because
Speaker 2: I know this joy Con suck and you know, hopefully
Speaker 2: it don't encourage her to play more stuff on Switch.
Speaker 2: But she's having fun with roadblocks on the Xbox One
Speaker 2: and she's started playing the five Nights of Freddy's. So, hey,
Speaker 2: she's gaming, that's all I care about. I'm happy for her. Well, eventually,
Speaker 2: if Split Fiction comes to EA play, I'll definitely play
Speaker 2: that with her. I still need to get her to
Speaker 2: play My Kart World, so yeah, but it'll probably play
Speaker 2: better on my Xbox. So I don't know I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go with that, but no, I I I definitely I
Speaker 2: want to be excited for Donkey Kong, you know, so
Speaker 2: hopefully they do give us that. Just also, please don't
Speaker 2: give away like everybody that's gonna be in the game.
Speaker 2: I want to be surprised. Nintendo has a bad habit
Speaker 2: sometimes of being like, oh yeah, it also has like
Speaker 2: all these other characters, and it's like, oh dang it.
Speaker 3: Thanks, it'll only be a Donkey Kong game for like
Speaker 3: three hours and then all transition to like Smash Brothers
Speaker 3: where you just play like every other Nindendo character like
Speaker 3: in the world.
Speaker 2: Do you think? So? There has been rumors for a
Speaker 2: while that, well before they revealed, you know, when there
Speaker 2: was rumors that it could be Donkey Kong game, but
Speaker 2: we weren't sure right that Mario would somehow be in
Speaker 2: it as sort of a kind of playback to you know,
Speaker 2: anniversary of Donkey Kong. Do you think Mario makes an appearance?
Speaker 3: No, but jumpman will jumpman will?
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, fair enough, and maybe you can bring
Speaker 2: back at Charles Martinet the last time. It's even though
Speaker 2: they they banned him from doing that. He cannot do
Speaker 2: Mario voice on anything that is recorded, apparently.
Speaker 3: To be like a good will announcer, though.
Speaker 2: I think so. Yeah, but I wonder if he's gonna
Speaker 2: be in the new Mario movie at all, like doing
Speaker 2: other character voices like he did the first time.
Speaker 3: I mean they also fired you know, uh Peach and
Speaker 3: toes tool the voice actress, and he only did it
Speaker 3: for eighteen years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder what if you're still gonna sound like
Speaker 2: them just other people? Is it really about money or
Speaker 2: is it about just okay, you wanna's have younger people
Speaker 2: doing it or what's the I mean stric yeah that too,
Speaker 2: but hopefully it is the Yeah, but we'll see. That's
Speaker 2: on Wednesday, June eighteenth. If you live in the Pacific,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry for you. That is like uh dick a
Speaker 2: m yeah. Uh but yeah. So they also announced Splatoon
Speaker 2: three Raiders update which that is already out. It's a
Speaker 2: patch that came out on the twelfth. It's going to
Speaker 2: have more detail visuals and smoother appearance for Spatoon three.
Speaker 2: And then they've they announced the Raiders, which is going
Speaker 2: to be like thirty new weapons returning stage from the
Speaker 2: original Splatoon urchin underpass a new like battle type as well.
Speaker 2: So hey, that's cool. I'm glad to see Nintendo is
Speaker 2: still supporting Splatoon.
Speaker 3: But no, what about arms Man? Come on?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: I think that's the team doing Dragon Drive, right, so,
Speaker 2: which I imagine that's not going to do too hot.
Speaker 2: Maybe those surprises and it will, But I just that
Speaker 2: that is by far been the one game that everybody
Speaker 2: has beligned every time they've done like a preview thing
Speaker 2: for it.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: So I imagine people were talking smack about it at
Speaker 2: previou event. It will not play well when you get
Speaker 2: everybody's hands on it.
Speaker 3: I heard like, it's like not terrible, but it's just
Speaker 3: you know, if it's ten dollars, it's one thing.
Speaker 2: But you know what, I'll yeah, if you're gonna charge
Speaker 2: sixty bucks for it, right then no, and.
Speaker 3: How much content is it really gonna have? You know?
Speaker 2: I could see them maybe charging forty right, No, but yeah,
Speaker 2: that's it's gonna be an interesting thing when that comes out.
Speaker 2: Another reason why you need to have Donkey Kong. Do
Speaker 2: you think do you think there's a reason why they're
Speaker 2: not doing a just having Donkey Kong being a Nintendo Direct,
Speaker 2: like a full Nintendo Direct.
Speaker 3: Name. I mean, they might want to I wouldn't say reintroduced,
Speaker 3: but really show off the character in a three D space.
Speaker 3: Like I said, it's been damn near thirty year or
Speaker 3: twenty five years since the three D Donkey Kong game's
Speaker 3: been out, so they can be, oh, this is these
Speaker 3: are his new abilities, and this is what he can do.
Speaker 2: Like well, we have seen Nintendo does like the full
Speaker 2: Direct or whatever towards the end of June usually right.
Speaker 2: But I'm starting to think that maybe they're gonna wait
Speaker 2: until after Donkey Kong Bonanza comes out because they don't
Speaker 2: want anything stealing Donkey Kong's thunder, right, Like they don't
Speaker 2: want somebody to get excited about a new Mario three
Speaker 2: D Mario and going oh, I'm not gonna buy Donkey
Speaker 2: Kong or any other I mean, you know, we know
Speaker 2: Pokemon's coming, we know Metros coming. But I think if
Speaker 2: you give somebody a date of when Metro Prime Force
Speaker 2: coming out, and maybe you have some other games that
Speaker 2: are gonna come along before the end of this year,
Speaker 2: and you maybe I don't know if they'll do an
Speaker 2: updates Animal Crossing or you know, insert one of the
Speaker 2: more popular games here that they do an update on,
Speaker 2: and it's like, then people start kind of looking at
Speaker 2: it and going, ah, you know, maybe I'll just update
Speaker 2: that and play that instead of buying Donkey Kong. And
Speaker 2: I think maybe Nintendo just kind of wants to give
Speaker 2: it that shining star status right now and then maybe
Speaker 2: after that comes out or even in August, you have
Speaker 2: the full direct that kind of leads you into here's
Speaker 2: what's coming out the rest of the year kind of thing, right,
Speaker 2: But I mean like they don't don't. That's the thing is,
Speaker 2: like they don't have like we know, Pokemon's coming in October.
Speaker 2: Have they given a date for Dragon Drive? I don't.
Speaker 2: I think they just said summer, right, right, and then
Speaker 2: Metroid doesn't have a date.
Speaker 3: I gotta imagine Metroit is this year though, I mean.
Speaker 2: Well, it's it's definitely this year. It's just they don't
Speaker 2: know yet right, Like, they haven't given a date, so
Speaker 2: it's either going to be September, it's going to be November.
Speaker 3: It'll be December twenty eighth.
Speaker 2: So it's like, yeah, that's the they have some pretty
Speaker 2: good third party stuff coming. But that's just the thing
Speaker 2: about the switch to in general. That's like they really
Speaker 2: did not give out those dev kits very early, so
Speaker 2: like everybody that's now scrambling to get them right, they're
Speaker 2: kind of behind on making games. So I imagine there's
Speaker 2: gonna be a glut of games early next year. They're
Speaker 2: going to be coming out kind of delayed, so we'll see.
Speaker 2: I guess then you got the yeah.
Speaker 3: All the ports you can imagine.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I imagine all the all the ports are coming.
Speaker 2: For sure. I forgot. I forgot about that time. I
Speaker 2: got you Plaza thing that that's coming at the end
Speaker 2: of this month. But yeah, for sure, it's it's gonna
Speaker 2: be interesting for Nintendo. But definitely Donkey Kong is that
Speaker 2: that one game they're banking on for next month to
Speaker 2: kind of be the one that carries it through for
Speaker 2: a while, so you know, hopefully for Nintendo and all
Speaker 2: the Donkey Kong fans. That it's a really good one.
Speaker 2: But that being said, we also just uh hit a
Speaker 2: one thing I forgot to mention we're talking about the
Speaker 2: PlayStation stuff is unfortunately Sony Bend has been hit with layoffs.
Speaker 2: Now they're kind of attributing this to they're laying off
Speaker 2: like thirty percent of the staff, which is around forty
Speaker 2: people according to Bloomberg, which again layoffs always suck, not
Speaker 2: a good thing. Tony's kind of attributing it to like
Speaker 2: work first reduction because they're not ramping up on a game.
Speaker 2: They're essentially starting from scratch right now because they had
Speaker 2: their multiplayer game canceled. It's just weird, like what this
Speaker 2: studio's kind of become, right like Days Gone and then
Speaker 2: they didn't let them make Days Gone too, and then
Speaker 2: they put transfer them over to doing a multiplayer game
Speaker 2: that we don't even know what it was. They canceled it,
Speaker 2: and then there it is.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'd be curious how if that Days Gone
Speaker 3: did anything well on PC.
Speaker 2: Oh the Ringmaster, Yeah, or how well it.
Speaker 3: Did on you know, PS five, you know, but you know, honestly,
Speaker 3: i'd say, hey, make another side resulter.
Speaker 2: Hey, you know, then somebody could use one of those
Speaker 2: at this point really.
Speaker 3: Obviously not fucking wrong with it, putter, So, so, yeah, like.
Speaker 2: That's the thing is, like, even if they were going
Speaker 2: to it, do you think that they could say, Okay,
Speaker 2: we'll let you do Days Gone too, or you think
Speaker 2: that's kind of like no, it's no way it's happening.
Speaker 3: I think, like I said, I think that would really
Speaker 3: depend on how well it sold recently, Like if it
Speaker 3: did sell exeedingly well, sure, like could I imagine they might,
Speaker 3: but they would reason a lot of the assets or
Speaker 3: it wouldn't be like a holy new game necessarily.
Speaker 2: Didn't they have some didn't some big game come out
Speaker 2: the same time, and like basically any kind of I
Speaker 2: can't think of it right now, but I know there
Speaker 2: was some game that like came out and it was like, okay,
Speaker 2: well if anybody was thinking about Days Gone remasters definitely
Speaker 2: not happening now.
Speaker 3: Right, But I think I don't know, bro.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm at the I'm at the remaster or not.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, stuff gets released so quickly
Speaker 3: on fucking PC at this point, it's hard to keep
Speaker 3: track of anything, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, part of it is just because like it felt
Speaker 2: like they just kind of put that thing out and
Speaker 2: we're just like, hey, it's there, right, all right, you know,
Speaker 2: if you're looking forward to it. Cool, We're not going
Speaker 2: to really promote it.
Speaker 3: Again. It's you can't like use Steam charts as like
Speaker 3: the most accurate barometer ever. But it sold at least
Speaker 3: twenty seven thousand copies on Steam.
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, Like you have.
Speaker 3: To wonder like how much at sixty bucks a pop
Speaker 3: or fifty bucks you now, that doesn't sound great, but
Speaker 3: also like how much work did that actually take to
Speaker 3: get running on PC? Probably a huge amount.
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably not a huge amount. And then on PS five,
Speaker 2: I mean probably even less because you always have the assets,
Speaker 2: you're just remastering them. I mean they did add that
Speaker 2: new mode or what not as well the you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know how that's sold. I don't know if
Speaker 2: that really sold anyone on that or whatever, but yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll see. I think it sucks for Sony Bend because.
Speaker 3: I saw this as kind of like them having to
Speaker 3: scale back down from doing their life service game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely what Tony was saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe some critical people got got asked or more
Speaker 3: superfluous people, but when did they get hired or are
Speaker 3: they around for twenty years, you know, the past thirty
Speaker 3: years of the studio, or or that it's heard on
Speaker 3: the past five years and for a network infrastructure craft
Speaker 3: that we're not making a network game anymore.
Speaker 2: So yep, yeah, I mean you're right. It's Clare Obscure
Speaker 2: came out day before one.
Speaker 3: Of those small indie games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just like blew up and anything that came
Speaker 2: out around and forget it. And then for the Horizon
Speaker 2: also ate it's Lunch as well on PlayStation right and
Speaker 2: older scrolls and all that stuff that came out around
Speaker 2: that time. So if you even knew the Day's Gone
Speaker 2: ring Master was a thing, you probably had to be
Speaker 2: like really really looking forward to that.
Speaker 3: I'm for the eight people still holding the candle for
Speaker 3: Days Gone too.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But yeah, moving just really quick here to get
Speaker 2: to some of the things. Borderlands four is officially going
Speaker 2: to be seventy dollars. After the scare that, you know,
Speaker 2: Microsoft Nintendo moved games over to eighty out of Worlds
Speaker 2: two officially was eighty was announced as eighty last week.
Speaker 2: There was backlash to that. There was obviously huge backlash
Speaker 2: to Mario Carl World being eighty dollars.
Speaker 3: You know, I think for certain games, okay, Mayo World
Speaker 3: kind of makes sense. They will they will sell DLC
Speaker 3: down the road like additional track for some season pass thing,
Speaker 3: but that's about it. And for Out of World's too,
Speaker 3: same thing, like they'll sell some season pass or two
Speaker 3: expansions and be like, all right, we're done. But for
Speaker 3: Borderlands or for you know, Madden or even Call of Duty,
Speaker 3: like they make the money back on cosmetics by leaps
Speaker 3: and bounds, so they I mean, can you imagine if
Speaker 3: they released NBA two K twenty six as a twenty
Speaker 3: dollars game.
Speaker 2: Oh no, that'll never happen.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I meant like, could you just imagine
Speaker 3: it though, Like they would sell probably hundreds of thousands
Speaker 3: of more copies. Oh yeah, but also they might. I
Speaker 3: think they might actually make a lot of that money
Speaker 3: back just from the cosmetic A side or you know
Speaker 3: whatever they colin FIFA nowadays that the card packs bullshit
Speaker 3: like yeah, so yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Mean that's part of the reason why they didn't move
Speaker 2: those to eighty yet, because they don't want it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think I think this it was never going
Speaker 3: to be eighty because a I don't think Borderlines can
Speaker 3: support it as a franchise, especially at this point. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and then b like they'll sell They will sell the
Speaker 3: expansions like they always do, but they sell a bunch
Speaker 3: of other dumb bullshit as well so well.
Speaker 2: And I think also that blow up that happened with
Speaker 2: Brandy also, if they were thinking about it, I think
Speaker 2: after that it was kind of like, maybe we don't
Speaker 2: do that. I'm sure that Strasonic probably gave.
Speaker 3: Up, but you know, I think I think not Vice City.
Speaker 3: I think GT six is a special thing because I'm
Speaker 3: going to be eighty uh and but they won't They
Speaker 3: don't saw expansions anymore to that. They just have GTA online, right,
Speaker 3: and there is a good portion of the audience into that,
Speaker 3: but millions who aren't, so they'll play the single player
Speaker 3: and go like, all right, that's it, and then that'd
Speaker 3: be it.
Speaker 2: But there's it's such a seminal game. It's such a
Speaker 2: game that, like, like you said, it's special, like you're
Speaker 2: not going to get another GTA in this generation, so
Speaker 2: play it because you know, cherish it is worth a
Speaker 2: eighty dollars. You know you're gonna get hundreds of hours
Speaker 2: out of it.
Speaker 3: Like I'd be more into it. I mean, they didn't
Speaker 3: do if you GTAFI and we talked about they canceled,
Speaker 3: But if they'd done story deals see if you're GTA five,
Speaker 3: I would have bought it. Yeah, but they didn't. They
Speaker 3: just did like online bullshit, and I don't care about.
Speaker 2: That, so right, all right? I mean also with somebody
Speaker 2: else that had a showcase this week was Konami. They
Speaker 2: revealed more on Metal Saw with Delta and Silon Hill.
Speaker 2: F Uh, there's gonna be an online mode for Delta,
Speaker 2: but it's not going to be Meddle Gear Solid Online
Speaker 2: or Meddle Gear Online.
Speaker 3: Sorry.
Speaker 2: And also the Xbox officially will not even though I
Speaker 2: think we all knew this, Xbox will officially not have
Speaker 2: the ape Escape thing in there. They're gonna have a
Speaker 2: Bomberman thing on theirs. But perhaps even though they only
Speaker 2: showed like a minute of it, they didn't show any gameplay.
Speaker 2: They just showed like literally a title card. But the
Speaker 2: biggest news to come out of it is that Sold
Speaker 2: Hill one remake is officially being made by Bloomber Team
Speaker 2: and Konami. So that was the we don't have a name,
Speaker 2: but Bloomber team is working again with Konami on something.
Speaker 2: Is it the right call go sound hill one instead
Speaker 2: of three, or.
Speaker 3: It's only the right call? Eff After this when they
Speaker 3: do Sondhill four and three, just to really confused, fuck
Speaker 3: up the numbering? You know? Uh, I mean it's not
Speaker 3: how I guess one is fine? I sure, I guess
Speaker 3: my two points. Funny things about this. I had a
Speaker 3: friend convinced they're gonna announce some new Castlevania thing and yeah,
Speaker 3: I was like, what are you smoke? I'm just thinking
Speaker 3: like what are you? Are you smoking something or what?
Speaker 3: Like they don't have anyone at Konomia anymore. Like that's
Speaker 3: why they keep hanging. They shout out to other people like, yeah,
Speaker 3: what are you gonna do? Have Ega and the Bloodstain
Speaker 3: crew do a Castlevania new Castlevania that'd be kind of funny.
Speaker 3: But A and the other thing was like the Metal
Speaker 3: Year Cell thing, Like I know, people are pissed and
Speaker 3: it's like basically prop hunt and it's like, Yo, did
Speaker 3: you see that trailer they showed a week ago when
Speaker 3: the snake or Snake or the play a little character
Speaker 3: like got on the ground and became a bunch of rocks, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: do you not realize that then that it's going to
Speaker 3: be prop on? Like are you? Are you new?
Speaker 2: Apparently?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I guess. I mean, do you
Speaker 3: care about song Hill at all? Or no?
Speaker 2: I do? Yeah, I'm glad that it is getting I mean,
Speaker 2: Simon Hill two remake was great, so I'm glad that
Speaker 2: sold Hill won.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, are you more excited for
Speaker 3: this for a sound Hill f.
Speaker 2: Yeah? For someone Hill one? Yeah, definitely, I'm more excited.
Speaker 2: I am interested in Solon Hill f uh, you know,
Speaker 2: just to see what their take on it is and
Speaker 2: hopefully the good, the good part of it can continue.
Speaker 2: It's just Bluber team is not involved, so I wonder
Speaker 2: if it will be just as good as some remake was.
Speaker 3: I think my problem at least with a lot of
Speaker 3: that from Ties and this popped up and song the
Speaker 3: brief kind of fade Songhill too. It's like the first
Speaker 3: weapon you get is like this metal pipe which is
Speaker 3: apparently indestructible, Like.
Speaker 2: Well, don't you get like a wood like a piece
Speaker 2: of wood or whatever?
Speaker 3: First? That's okay, okay, but you're still making a point like, yeah, really, weapon,
Speaker 3: I mean the Master Sword should be indestructible, some piece
Speaker 3: of the zombie ways it should fall apart in for
Speaker 3: like six hits or something, or you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that. It's funny that, you know,
Speaker 2: we all love weapon degradations. You know, it's the themes
Speaker 2: where you think it should be there and it's not.
Speaker 3: I would say it actually kind of makes sense, songhill
Speaker 3: f because that presumably takes place in some Japanese locale.
Speaker 3: They don't have guns, but they might have swords, right,
Speaker 3: and they might have a lot of them, so that
Speaker 3: kind of makes some sense, but not in like any
Speaker 3: American town where there's a gun store on every corner.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed, and just really quickly here, I should have
Speaker 2: missed hi when we talked about it. If Firebreak will
Speaker 2: have free updates all throughout, so hey, if you already
Speaker 2: subscribe a psbus or game pass, you get the game free,
Speaker 2: and then you're gonna get the updates free.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, do you think I don't
Speaker 3: know the actress is name. Do you think they get
Speaker 3: Jesse Fayden into thing at all?
Speaker 2: I think she'll make an appearance in flashbacks whatever, but
Speaker 2: not in the actual thing. Okay, because will it ever
Speaker 2: have an end? Right? Like that's the thing is, like
Speaker 2: do they have an ending point for the lower and
Speaker 2: then they just keep plugging away with the multiplayer part
Speaker 2: of it? Or is this like always going to have
Speaker 2: like little lower tib it's every time they add something
Speaker 2: and in that case, like, uh, do they have a
Speaker 2: tease that goes into control too? Eventually? Like the further
Speaker 2: it goes? Because like that's the thing too, is like
Speaker 2: you can have this idea that this game is going
Speaker 2: to last uh during the entire development that's left of
Speaker 2: control too, and then it just doesn't. Right, So does
Speaker 2: that force them to just throw in all of the
Speaker 2: story stuff like when they announce if they hopefully not? Right?
Speaker 2: I I want the game to do well because you know,
Speaker 2: the more you can help Remedy continue to gain revenue
Speaker 2: so that they can keep making those games, it's great. Right.
Speaker 2: And then obviously they have whatever the movie thing is
Speaker 2: going to be or is it a TV show? I
Speaker 2: never write that's suspend it.
Speaker 3: And like so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know that's the thing is that I
Speaker 2: think it would definitely help them for that to keep going.
Speaker 2: But if there's a chance that it does to do
Speaker 2: as well as they hope, and they have to throw
Speaker 2: all that in there, like you, does it ever have
Speaker 2: a finality? It's the thing for me, But I do
Speaker 2: think she makes an appearance at some point. I just
Speaker 2: don't know if it's going to be like, oh, hey
Speaker 2: there's Jesse, you know.
Speaker 3: Right, she'll be like a raid boss or you know,
Speaker 3: like it'll be some evil version of her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do they tie any Do they tie anything to
Speaker 2: Alan Wakettle?
Speaker 3: That'll be nope.
Speaker 2: Interesting, but yeah, well we'll definitely see what happens to that.
Speaker 2: And you know in a day or two times how
Speaker 2: much story is in that thing, right, and how much
Speaker 2: of it is just a multiplayer game. So there's also
Speaker 2: a new another Legacy of Cane remaster that's happening. This
Speaker 2: is not official. It's kind of like a Gimatsu spotted
Speaker 2: a rating for Legacy of Kane Defiance being ready for
Speaker 2: PS on PS four. This is the PS two games,
Speaker 2: so that's probably going to be added to the like
Speaker 2: PS plus at some point or whatever. Hey, that's cool.
Speaker 2: I'm glad that that series is getting a kind of
Speaker 2: second live or whatever.
Speaker 3: I mean. Definan says like, like the the PS two
Speaker 3: games were not really good. Uh, Sory for two was
Speaker 3: like passable, but I remember Blood omen two was like
Speaker 3: not great, right, and Defiance was like the last Hurrah
Speaker 3: but and the conclusion of the whole kind of franchise,
Speaker 3: and it was not the best, but it was certainly
Speaker 3: like playable and decent enough. Yeah, so sure, well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully that does well and you know, we'll see,
Speaker 2: we'll see it. I mean, that's an embracer A studio
Speaker 2: and you know, for CEO is finally going to be
Speaker 2: gone ours wing forward, so we'll see what the plan isracer.
Speaker 3: I still think that game they crushed out ten years ago, uh,
Speaker 3: not the nas goth and like multiplayer disaster, but the
Speaker 3: other one like that was supposed to get the single
Speaker 3: player a game that looked really cool, and of course
Speaker 3: I got canceled.
Speaker 2: Yeah idiotsns you guys. But all right, let's let's go ahead.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 2: No, I was just gonna move us on to the
Speaker 2: to talk about the topic here. The one thing I
Speaker 2: did not mention during that whole summit thing was that
Speaker 2: Haydaki Nashino and Herman host both. I think Nashino is
Speaker 2: the one that speaks on it, but they both mentioned
Speaker 2: when they were asked the question about, well, what about
Speaker 2: PlayStation going forward, and Nashino does mention that top of
Speaker 2: mind right now is the few sure like what they
Speaker 2: will be doing going forward, having different avenues for PlayStation
Speaker 2: gamers to have access to PlayStation and kind of just
Speaker 2: something that look PlayStation six is is getting made. People like,
Speaker 2: we are looking forward to that, We are looking ahead
Speaker 2: at that. They didn't give any kind of timeframe as
Speaker 2: to when that will happen, but you know, kind of
Speaker 2: all signs points to twenty twenty seven, as you know.
Speaker 2: But they also kind of did it in sort of
Speaker 2: like a question of they were asked about, you know,
Speaker 2: Switch to launch being well, and they kind of did
Speaker 2: it as well, it's great that we have competitors in
Speaker 2: the market, but we're not looking at what the Switch
Speaker 2: is doing. We're kind of doing our thing. We believe
Speaker 2: in consoles. We believe in you need to have the
Speaker 2: big screen experience and that's something that only PlayStation consoles deliver.
Speaker 2: And then they were also talked about like what about
Speaker 2: cloud streaming. You know, that's kind of another thing that's
Speaker 2: kind of progressing and keeps improving as things go on,
Speaker 2: and obviously, Sony themselves have added cloud streaming to the
Speaker 2: PlayStation portal, and they have cloud streaming as part of
Speaker 2: like how you can play a PS three games on
Speaker 2: PS plus and you can stream any of those games
Speaker 2: as well through PS plus if you don't want to
Speaker 2: download into your console and it works fairly well and
Speaker 2: all that stuff, and you know, he says that, hey,
Speaker 2: there's obviously multifaceted platforms. They're asked about what about Microsoft
Speaker 2: and what they're doing, and he says that they are
Speaker 2: essentially still all about the console. That's what they have
Speaker 2: faith in. You know, they can't really talk about what
Speaker 2: PlayStation six will be, but it will essentially kind of
Speaker 2: be what the PlayStation five is, but better. And they
Speaker 2: they are still all gung ho about. Look, the console
Speaker 2: is our focus. We're not trying to branch out into
Speaker 2: They are probably going to have a cloud part of that.
Speaker 2: There's rumors that they are developing their own handheld, but
Speaker 2: there's nothing concrete as of now. Really, it's just kind
Speaker 2: of like, okay, well this is what could be in
Speaker 2: it and that kind of thing. It's not nothing Sony
Speaker 2: has announced themselves, nothing that anybody with really a lot
Speaker 2: of Cachet, like, you know, the Jeff Grove Chasen Schreyer's
Speaker 2: that kind of thing, and nobody on that side has
Speaker 2: kind of come out and said, oh, this is definitely happening,
Speaker 2: by the way, whereas like it, like there was a
Speaker 2: lot of reports about, oh, the Xbox handheld is definitely happening,
Speaker 2: and that obviously got proven true with the rog Xbox
Speaker 2: A thing, whereas like PlayStation is still kind of very nebulous.
Speaker 2: We don't know, you know. So when you look at
Speaker 2: all the strategies that we see, right Switches, definitely they
Speaker 2: are embracing the hybrid handheld thing. They have continued that
Speaker 2: on with Switch to Xbox is basically we are going
Speaker 2: to be wherever the heck you are playable on. Everything
Speaker 2: moving more towards their console seemingly is going to be
Speaker 2: a PC, and Sony is just sticking there, flagging the
Speaker 2: ground and saying we are not changing. We are going
Speaker 2: to be a gaming console and that is going to
Speaker 2: be our focus. Obviously when you look at Sony is
Speaker 2: obviously also the de facto gaming console when it comes
Speaker 2: to what we think of as a gaming console, because
Speaker 2: Xbox has deteriorated itself and you know, switch to embrace
Speaker 2: what they are. Does that? Do you think that that
Speaker 2: means Playstession has the winning strategy now going into nexttion?
Speaker 3: I think yes for the next gen, but I'm more
Speaker 3: iffy about like the gen after that. It really depends
Speaker 3: still on like Internet pers relation for the world to
Speaker 3: the whole great swaths even America that are like, you know,
Speaker 3: barely dial up speeds, you know. As far as like
Speaker 3: the business, I don't I see. I don't really see
Speaker 3: the Xbox brand lasting too much longer as dedicated console box,
Speaker 3: you know, because why should it.
Speaker 2: I mean we we still don't know if they're going
Speaker 2: to I mean they just announced that they well they
Speaker 2: haven't announced because that thing was never actually officially announced.
Speaker 3: But right the.
Speaker 2: Rumors are that the x Box proprietary handheld has been shelved.
Speaker 2: They've literally been talking to the Xbox handheld since say
Speaker 2: original Xbox.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like so I don't see him doing that, uh
Speaker 3: I I just see them at like Microsoft is getting
Speaker 3: like them as a hardware manufacturer. It's always been kind
Speaker 3: of wonky to me, like they might have like the
Speaker 3: occasional good thing, like I guess people kind of like
Speaker 3: the whatever tablet they do, forget the name of it
Speaker 3: surface surface.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but like you know, I look at like the Zoom,
Speaker 4: look at web TV and that was them, look at
Speaker 4: they have a whole history of other weird bullshit.
Speaker 2: That the phone phone that talk the Nedelas says, now
Speaker 2: he wishes he didn't cancel, but they canceled it, right.
Speaker 3: Uh, And yeah, they just have like a whole weird
Speaker 3: history of you know, physical things that technically might work
Speaker 3: but are cumbersome and weird to use. Like I just
Speaker 3: see them slowly getting out of the whole physical market or.
Speaker 2: Well, they already are pretty much right.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't mean like discs, I mean like why
Speaker 3: haven't Xbox console at all? Like this relationship on Steam
Speaker 3: and in Sony and all the life.
Speaker 2: I think from the PlayStation side of things, they have
Speaker 2: no reason to deviate from right what they're doing as
Speaker 2: far as the console goes, because they are selling PS fives.
Speaker 2: They are now ahead of where the PS four was finally,
Speaker 2: and they still have some years to go. I'm sure
Speaker 2: they would love to be further ahead of the PS four.
Speaker 2: This shit. Obviously, it doesn't help that people are just
Speaker 2: stuck with their PS fours, Whether it's for economic reasons
Speaker 2: or because they have no reason to move because all
Speaker 2: of they are free to play live service stuff is
Speaker 2: still playable on the PS four. That's going to be
Speaker 2: interesting as far as that moves. They said that supposed
Speaker 2: to the reason why they picked a m D instead
Speaker 2: of going with another manufacturer, which IBM was apparently the
Speaker 2: only other one that they were seriously considering, is because
Speaker 2: they want to make sure that they had the backwards
Speaker 2: compatibility for PS four. They want PS four to be
Speaker 2: able to be playable moving forward, which you know, we
Speaker 2: know that that's one thing Xbox has at least that
Speaker 2: you know, dedicated themselves to. They want a future proof
Speaker 2: further generations, whether it's with the console or not. Even
Speaker 2: Nintendo has done it this goal around right the switch one.
Speaker 2: For the most part, most of the games work, whether
Speaker 2: they are greatly compatible or not. Some of them don't
Speaker 2: work as well, but I'm sure they can pass that
Speaker 2: stuff out. Most of the games do work. So it
Speaker 2: seems like all of the three console makers or the
Speaker 2: Big three or whatever are at least embracing that, Hey,
Speaker 2: backwards compatibility is important for people. They want to have acted,
Speaker 2: they want to still have access to those libraries. I
Speaker 2: think from PlayStation's point of view too, is like I
Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if there is a handheld in development,
Speaker 2: Like you were telling me, you know, before we started recording,
Speaker 2: is there a chance to sell it gets to a
Speaker 2: certain point and they go, we don't really.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah, Like and even if they do make
Speaker 3: some handheld, you know, to have some goofy feature in
Speaker 3: it or some goofy thing that turn people off.
Speaker 2: So I just I mean, the portal sold really well.
Speaker 2: I think it's sold way better than they ever expected
Speaker 2: it to. It is still selling decently, even though I
Speaker 2: always thought it was one hundred dollars more expensive than
Speaker 2: it should have been. But that's either here or no.
Speaker 2: It's sold that that regardless. I just think that like
Speaker 2: people want to have that untenderedness part of it, Like
Speaker 2: they want to not have to have the console in
Speaker 2: order to have it. It is a nice successory to
Speaker 2: the console, right, Like you can have the console plugged in,
Speaker 2: you can use it. You can cloudstream, but the cloud
Speaker 2: stream apparently is not great. Even the remote play version
Speaker 2: of it apparently doesn't work. Depending on how good your
Speaker 2: internet is in your house. That's another thing. That's another
Speaker 2: issue in itself, is like, yes, Internet should get better,
Speaker 2: Internet should improve, cloud gaming should improve, But do you
Speaker 2: really want to have a handheld that is built all
Speaker 2: around clud gaming and can't natively play those games.
Speaker 3: Like like you're talking about going from a two hundred
Speaker 3: dollars unit to a six hundred dollar unit. So yeah,
Speaker 3: it was really fun. I talked to a friend recently
Speaker 3: on Blue Sky and he was talking about like he's like, oh,
Speaker 3: now they got to switch to I'm gonna play Cyberpunk
Speaker 3: on it. And it's like, why, like, if it hasn't
Speaker 3: interested you, like he said, he believe he said PS
Speaker 3: fours and he's a PS five and craft like that, right,
Speaker 3: He's like, why would it interest you on a switch
Speaker 3: to like to play a you.
Speaker 2: Can get it cheaper on the PS five.
Speaker 3: Right, But here the mentality that you kind of do,
Speaker 3: Like he was like, oh, now that I can play
Speaker 3: it like on the go, it might be better. I'm
Speaker 3: just like, no, it won't. Like it's still the same game,
Speaker 3: you know, it's still like I'm just like, just like,
Speaker 3: if it doesn't interest you in the past five here,
Speaker 3: it's not gonna interest you now that now they can
Speaker 3: play it in the rooftop party.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah I do. I do get what you're
Speaker 2: saying there, but yeah, I would say that beyond our generation, right,
Speaker 2: the generations that are kind mean after us. You know,
Speaker 2: my daughter Randy's kids, you know, children the generation Gen
Speaker 2: Z and Jen Alpha. They don't they want to play
Speaker 2: wherever it is that they whatever device that they have
Speaker 2: the thing on. They don't want to be stuck in
Speaker 2: front of a TV that a lot of them don't
Speaker 2: even freaking watch. Let's be honest, Okay, people will watch
Speaker 2: stuff on their tablet, on their phone. They don't care
Speaker 2: about the big screen like we do, right, they don't
Speaker 2: care about the graphics, uh power of the graphics like
Speaker 2: we do.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: And then now we're starting to get to the point
Speaker 2: where it's like diminishing returns. Even though yes, switch to
Speaker 2: is going to run into the problem that when you
Speaker 2: get to the PlayStation six and then whatever the Xbox
Speaker 2: is going to be called, if the thing comes out
Speaker 2: at all, where yes, there will be that golf and
Speaker 2: graphical quality that you're gonna have to deal with. But
Speaker 2: you know, they like people used to the switch to
Speaker 2: being underpowered, right, as long as Nintendo's still making those
Speaker 2: games right. They don't care. And I do think that
Speaker 2: that's where I do think that Sony will have to
Speaker 2: whether it's the portal too or having your own handheld,
Speaker 2: is by the time we get to that and we're
Speaker 2: having gen Z and Jen Alfa older, and if they're
Speaker 2: playing games at all, a lot of them are playing
Speaker 2: on PC right, because you can then take your PC
Speaker 2: games and play them on the PC handheld or whatnot,
Speaker 2: which is why Xbox is getting into the PC handheld.
Speaker 3: Just the phone, Yeah, you can play it on the phone.
Speaker 3: I try to explain this to a friend of mine,
Speaker 3: like the switch too, because he's like, what's different about it?
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, it's bigger, you know, it's more powerful
Speaker 3: and other other craft and she's like and she's like,
Speaker 3: supposed kick it out? And I was like, yeah, like
Speaker 3: that's what you do, uh, and that's what other people do.
Speaker 3: And she's just sick why, like and she's older than us,
Speaker 3: but she was like, you know, it's had a portable system.
Speaker 3: You can't just put it in your pocket and go
Speaker 3: like and then also and she's like, wouldn't you be
Speaker 3: worried about getting damaged or stolen? And I was like
Speaker 3: you know, people should be, but they're not.
Speaker 2: Like well, I mean that's why they make carrying cases,
Speaker 2: right and most.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like that that's not exactly okay, that's kind
Speaker 3: of missing the point though, Like, Okay, you can put
Speaker 3: it in a case, but the case can also we
Speaker 3: have stolen or I.
Speaker 2: Mean it definitely can't. But I mean a lot of
Speaker 2: people that if you're going on a bus, you're going
Speaker 2: on a train, you're going on a plane, you're going
Speaker 2: on whatever. You've got a backpack, you got something to
Speaker 2: put it in. Right, you can lock that thing if
Speaker 2: you want, and then you can use it on the
Speaker 2: trip that you're having it on and then you lock
Speaker 2: it again. It's not really I just I feel like
Speaker 2: people are are started are embracing the I want my
Speaker 2: games where I am at any time. And I do
Speaker 2: think that that that does lend to Xbox a strategy
Speaker 2: a little bit. I do think that their strategy, that's
Speaker 2: part of the strategy I think will work that will
Speaker 2: allow them, along with their library of games that the public,
Speaker 2: you know, the game publishers and all that that they
Speaker 2: own now, will make it to where Xbox will be
Speaker 2: around right. I don't think that there. Whether there's a
Speaker 2: console still that says Xbox on it is another thing entirely.
Speaker 2: But Xbox as a publisher will be a round and
Speaker 2: and I do think that that lends to their idea
Speaker 2: of we are just going to be on every freaking
Speaker 2: TV that you could possibly own. We're going to be
Speaker 2: on it. We're going to make our next console is
Speaker 2: going to be a PC, and then all of your
Speaker 2: games are going to just work on that, and then
Speaker 2: it can work on your phone and it can work
Speaker 2: on you whatever other device you have. And it's like,
Speaker 2: I do think that there is something to that where
Speaker 2: maybe you're not thinking about, oh I got to buy
Speaker 2: the Xbox console, but I can buy into this Xbox
Speaker 2: ecosystem and then I have four generations of games that
Speaker 2: I now have access to that I can go buy
Speaker 2: and thide the Microsoft Store, right, So I do think
Speaker 2: that there is that could give them a little bit
Speaker 2: of life that and then you still have game pass
Speaker 2: of Okay, that's I don't know how much gonna cost
Speaker 2: with that onoy twenty five dollars, and I can play
Speaker 2: all these games without having to buy every single one
Speaker 2: of them. And obviously part of that going digital thing
Speaker 2: that they're doing is because they are trying to be
Speaker 2: more like PC. They are trying to Hey, PC gamers
Speaker 2: are fine with not having physical versions of their games
Speaker 2: because it's all on Steam, right, Xbox just trying to
Speaker 2: do the same thing, Like why do you care? It's
Speaker 2: gonna be a PC anyway, and you're all you're gonna
Speaker 2: play all your games in the in the cloud or
Speaker 2: in the whatever. I do think cloud is gonna play
Speaker 2: a bigger factor in the next generation in enabling you
Speaker 2: to be able to have access to your game faster
Speaker 2: and all that stuff. I think if the generation goes on,
Speaker 2: it will be important, and I do think Sony is
Speaker 2: kind of connizant of that as well. It's gonna be
Speaker 2: interesting when Nintendo. Are they gonna wind up doing a
Speaker 2: switch three or do they stop at two and try
Speaker 2: to do something else Like I think, yeah, just Nintendo's
Speaker 2: gonna be very interesting because they are still in their
Speaker 2: own world, even though you know, Steam doesn't care about
Speaker 2: competing with them as far as a unit sale perspective,
Speaker 2: but they are competing with them as far as like
Speaker 2: the games that Steam Deck can play compared to what
Speaker 2: the switch to can play. And same thing with the
Speaker 2: Windows PC handheld devices and all that. I mean, do
Speaker 2: you see like where do you where do you see
Speaker 2: that kind of evolving? Do you think we're gonna have
Speaker 2: even more Windows and Steam PC handhelds or what do
Speaker 2: you think is gonna wind up happening with that? Do
Speaker 2: you think it starts contracting because there's too many?
Speaker 3: Or I think it's already ten too many? Because you
Speaker 3: got the other word weird goofy shit coming out that
Speaker 3: no one cares about or has even heard of, And
Speaker 3: I said, who who wanted this?
Speaker 2: Or you know, like there's a lot of these like
Speaker 2: retro devices too that I saw today that like, because
Speaker 2: they can stream you can also play games from that
Speaker 2: are not just like the older games. You can play
Speaker 2: like your newer games on it because it's all all
Speaker 2: through cloud streaming. Right, Yeah, that that just kind of interesting.
Speaker 2: And they're cheaper, right, They're like two hundred bucks and
Speaker 2: not five or eight hundred or whatever.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, exactly. Like, Yeah, I have a friend who
Speaker 3: works at a company h called s u Y Suey,
Speaker 3: and they got some like weird goofy swey play looking
Speaker 3: thing and it's like why, like, like are there a
Speaker 3: ton of pre orders for this thing or I guess
Speaker 3: it sold that technically, but like how many how many
Speaker 3: do you have in the first place, and then how
Speaker 3: many do you need to scale up for this one
Speaker 3: get to be profitable?
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, Yeah, there's a lot of those. Right if
Speaker 2: you go on social media, especially like TikTok, there's literally, yeah,
Speaker 2: hundreds of those things constantly being thrown into your face,
Speaker 2: Well buy this one, buy that one. But right, like,
Speaker 2: I think that will eventually kind of cut itself out
Speaker 2: because you can only have so many go around. Eventually,
Speaker 2: I do think technology is gonna get good enough or
Speaker 2: maybe you don't have to have the you know, one
Speaker 2: thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: One around, especially since they're all likely maybe the same
Speaker 3: satcher anyway, there's different badges on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, like here you go. Yeah, it's just an
Speaker 2: interesting time as far as like gaming in general and
Speaker 2: like where everything is, and it does feel like everybody's
Speaker 2: kind of taking from each other a little bit, you know,
Speaker 2: So like it is, it's gonna be kind of cool
Speaker 2: to see what does win out in the end when
Speaker 2: we're talking about that next gen do is it gonna
Speaker 2: be Microsoft strategy of being everywhere is it gonna be
Speaker 2: stony just saying, look, hey, here's the console. You're gonna
Speaker 2: play it on the console. I don't know if we're
Speaker 2: gonna have a handheld, if we're gonna have another portal
Speaker 2: or whatever, but you can play on that thing, or
Speaker 2: you can still play on your phone with remote play
Speaker 2: if you want. But you got to buy our console
Speaker 2: and everything's gonna be on our console. We're still not
Speaker 2: even gonna have like day and date PC. Do you
Speaker 2: see a point where they do embrace to PC more
Speaker 2: at some point or do you think they're always going
Speaker 2: to be.
Speaker 3: Like that. I think they're always going to be like
Speaker 3: that or you know, kind of closed off, like because
Speaker 3: they've tried to kind of make like desktop PCs. You know,
Speaker 3: we're like home PCs for like gaming, like you know,
Speaker 3: the living room PC and never quite work. We're like
Speaker 3: Steam machines back in the day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's rumors that Steam is doing that again, but
Speaker 2: now we'll see.
Speaker 3: I I think that, like a lot of people think
Speaker 3: they're just throwing more power at it for the problem
Speaker 3: is like the end answer, Like the Steam machine, even
Speaker 3: when it kind of came out, is a little underpowered
Speaker 3: or even like you know this Twitch one, but I
Speaker 3: think those machines get away with it better because they're
Speaker 3: more simple to use and not as prone to being
Speaker 3: like overly complicated. I mean the steaming. You can really
Speaker 3: fuck with the Steam machine if you want to, but
Speaker 3: like out of the box, it's easier to get into
Speaker 3: than like the MSI claw the rock ally looking into
Speaker 3: some Windows desktop, it's like god.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, So do you think that this this idea
Speaker 2: of Xbox essentially making their console a PC, like an
Speaker 2: actual fool PC with this uh you know, Xbox UI.
Speaker 3: Or whatever and to be like the original Xbox, Like,
Speaker 3: do you.
Speaker 2: Think that that has a chance of succeeding? Where you
Speaker 2: know you are now just embracing You can go to
Speaker 2: any store and you bought your game on Steam, you
Speaker 2: can play it there and.
Speaker 3: I could see I mean I no, because well I
Speaker 3: would say no because so many, so many of those
Speaker 3: games still east to come out. And Keyboard can I like,
Speaker 3: what are you gonna do? Buy the old uh Infinium
Speaker 3: Labs lap board, the Phantom Peak console that they were
Speaker 3: trying to make like twenty years ago and never came out,
Speaker 3: Like yeah, I don't know. I I don't think it'll
Speaker 3: work like because PC people like having a PC and
Speaker 3: console people like having a console, and never the twain
Speaker 3: shall really meet. Like can you imagine if Microsoft sold
Speaker 3: a console and then they're like, Okay, if you want
Speaker 3: to run this game, you have to open up this
Speaker 3: console and install a video card, like a new video card,
Speaker 3: Like fuck now, Like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean eventually, yeah, I do. Obviously, the point
Speaker 2: is that they're supposed to make it to where it'll
Speaker 2: be PC even more plug and play, where you don't
Speaker 2: have to you'll you'll install. The whole point apparently with
Speaker 2: the rock ly X what Xbox thing is that you're
Speaker 2: going to install the store one time and then you
Speaker 2: never have to go out to Windows again because it'll
Speaker 2: then be in the Xbox dashboard thing and you can
Speaker 2: just play them all off there, which you know, it's
Speaker 2: been tested, it's been done. Right, If they can do
Speaker 2: that on a bigger scale on the Xbox where you'll
Speaker 2: essentially have your PC games and it will just do
Speaker 2: the Steam thing of installing whatever it is you don't
Speaker 2: have on there for you without you really having to
Speaker 2: go in the back end and do the finding the
Speaker 2: driver that you have to install and all if it
Speaker 2: does all those things for you without you having to
Speaker 2: get out of your gaming interface. I do. I do
Speaker 2: see how that could be a plus. Obviously, The important
Speaker 2: part is that you are gonna have to you do
Speaker 2: need to make those Xbox, the older Xbox games go
Speaker 2: uh and work on that console, because you know that's
Speaker 2: that's part of it. That's part of the reason why
Speaker 2: some people are not sold on the the l X thing,
Speaker 2: because you're not gonna be able to play your Xbox Original,
Speaker 2: Xbox three sixty games. Anything that's bought on the XPOS
Speaker 2: console that is not also played anywhere at this point
Speaker 2: does not work on there. Maybe it does eventually, right,
Speaker 2: I'm sure that they're heading towards that. Like, I think
Speaker 2: that's gonna be the big gimmick with the next console
Speaker 2: is going.
Speaker 1: To be.
Speaker 2: Your whole entire library. It doesn't matter when you bought it,
Speaker 2: where you bought it, It works on here. All you
Speaker 2: got to do is download it and there you go.
Speaker 2: Who cares where you bought it. It's there, even PlayStation. Right,
Speaker 2: We'll see if PlayStation blocks it eventually, but yeah, let's see,
Speaker 2: they're not going to block it on the On the
Speaker 2: all it looks.
Speaker 3: Like also like I could see them going like, wait,
Speaker 3: that will never happened because so many games have like
Speaker 3: righteous Es and ship like that. So yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: you can and buy like a digital version on like
Speaker 3: the current Xbox of like AMP three right the music problems,
Speaker 3: and it's like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's that's part of the reason why
Speaker 2: the whole backward compatibility thing went away eventually, because they
Speaker 2: got to the po where they just there was no
Speaker 2: more games they could actually you know, make backwards compatible
Speaker 2: because they didn't know who the heck they're supposed to
Speaker 2: go try to reach out to in the first place.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, well Microsoft, oh JAM three right to music.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that whole thing with Activision, Like I wonder what
Speaker 2: that is, Like, are they just trying to get all
Speaker 2: of the licenses together in one go and then they
Speaker 2: will start peace Field, uh you know, putting a lot
Speaker 2: of this stuff out, or they just I wonder what
Speaker 2: they're waiting for. I'd love to know what it is
Speaker 2: that is holding that back. I I do understand they're
Speaker 2: not going to do with any with Bethesda where they're
Speaker 2: just going to drop thirty games at once. I don't
Speaker 2: think they'll do that because that is one of the
Speaker 2: things that helps make look make game Pass look good
Speaker 2: is that like, oh, here's this game that I haven't
Speaker 2: played in fifteen years or whatever that now I can play, right,
Speaker 2: you know, Tony Hawk's all remaster, but like getting that
Speaker 2: in and being able to put that into game Pass
Speaker 2: and having like, oh, that's my July game right or
Speaker 2: or yeah July, Like it's like, well, cool, that's awesome,
Speaker 2: right it is it is gonna be Like so far
Speaker 2: Sony has been able to combat the game Pass part
Speaker 2: of it and and combat the whole oh you know,
Speaker 2: but now Xbox has become the biggest publisher on their stores,
Speaker 2: so it's like it is going to be a cool
Speaker 2: like what happens with next shin? What winds up winning out?
Speaker 2: What do people gravitate towards? What does Nintendo wind up
Speaker 2: doing with their strategy? So far seeming to work the
Speaker 2: switch to so, well, let's see what we're talking about
Speaker 2: this time into the generation for Nintendo. Uh that go around?
Speaker 2: But hey, what do you think about the future of gaming?
Speaker 2: Who do you whose strategy are you a fan of
Speaker 2: or you think is gonna win out? Is it Sony,
Speaker 2: isn't x is it Microsoft? Is it Nintendo you let
Speaker 2: us know and the comments that being said, there are games,
Speaker 2: as they always do, coming out this week, like I've
Speaker 2: mentioned I think like three times now. I FBC Firebreak
Speaker 2: is one of them. Uh, that's that'll be out like
Speaker 2: pretty much now by the time you're watching or listening
Speaker 2: to this for sure, go check it out. It's gonna
Speaker 2: be on Game Pass, Gon, be on PS plus. Uh,
Speaker 2: something worth worth trying for sure. If that is not
Speaker 2: your speed, you can definitely go and date everything. You know.
Speaker 2: You can literally go on you have hundreds of versions
Speaker 2: of something in your household. You can go date if
Speaker 2: you want. There's a third party indie football game, Massimum Football.
Speaker 2: It's free to play. You can go play that. That's
Speaker 2: also going to be out now. Tronk Catalyst. That's gonna
Speaker 2: be interesting because the first tron game from uh bithel
Speaker 2: was actually pretty good, So I'm surprised you're not asking
Speaker 2: for that to review.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty neutral on tron okay any kind of neat idea,
Speaker 3: but well, you know, who.
Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, that's that's also going to be out now
Speaker 2: as well. Hell Clock is gonna be out on PC.
Speaker 2: That's was on a few showcases. The new Elder Scrolls
Speaker 2: expansion will be out as well on the eighteenth. The
Speaker 2: Ride You Remastered Mystery of the Soulist Army. That is
Speaker 2: I know you're interested in that, right Mark. That's that's
Speaker 2: gonna be a switch to game as well, along with
Speaker 2: everything else. The Slow Cap Soccer game Rematch. I will
Speaker 2: definitely be checking that out on game Pass. I'm excited
Speaker 2: for this game for a while. That comes on the
Speaker 2: nineteenth on Thursday, A Star Overdrive comes to everything else.
Speaker 2: It was on Switch for a while at launch. So yeah,
Speaker 2: there's some some cool things coming out this week. Definitely
Speaker 2: a lot for people to check out if they're a
Speaker 2: fan of any of these.
Speaker 3: You know, they Get Trilogy just hit today.
Speaker 2: Also, yeah, the Gex trilogy. I know you're you got that.
Speaker 3: No I don't have it. I'm because I aren't trying
Speaker 3: to buy the physical one. But okay, it's expensive and
Speaker 3: like some of the women had run recent collections are
Speaker 3: kind of like not great. Yeah, like that Ride I
Speaker 3: will remastered. You know I would have got it, but
Speaker 3: it's Twitter Bucks and you don't get a ton with it.
Speaker 3: You get like a figurine and like a plushy of
Speaker 3: the cat. That's kind of about it. Right, it's like, yo,
Speaker 3: that's not great.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, hopefully it does well for Atlas, you know,
Speaker 2: and leads to them being able to port or more
Speaker 2: of these other the other one and also just more
Speaker 2: of these kind of off the wall. Uh you know,
Speaker 2: sona Ish shouldn't got mu Tennessee type things. You know,
Speaker 2: we know sol Hackers two didn't do that great, but
Speaker 2: hopefully this kind of bucks that.
Speaker 3: Trend translate and bring over the Xbox one that never
Speaker 3: came in America.
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