WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:02.240 I'm not a big foot hunter. I'm a bass fisherman. 2 00:00:02.319 --> 00:00:04.280 But the boy, hey, what I've sure seen luck that 3 00:00:04.360 --> 00:00:07.200 I did expect to see. I mean, you can't take 4 00:00:07.240 --> 00:00:09.199 images out of your head that you've seen. It's like 5 00:00:09.240 --> 00:00:11.560 I told my family, I'll take them to my grave. 6 00:00:11.880 --> 00:00:14.759 They're they're not gonna go away. That one I seen 7 00:00:14.759 --> 00:00:18.679 as a kid, one hundred percent. Yeah, it was my 8 00:00:18.719 --> 00:00:20.920 first experience of like, wow, I wasn't told awe. I 9 00:00:20.960 --> 00:00:23.480 forgot over being scared for all the stuff that's happened 10 00:00:23.519 --> 00:00:27.600 this year though over there, there's there's something unique going on. 11 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:31.519 Is it gonna stop me from fishing next year? It's 12 00:00:31.559 --> 00:00:33.119 a good Lord will and I'm still here. I'll be 13 00:00:33.159 --> 00:00:36.479 fishing and I'll just keep my woods about me, and 14 00:00:37.560 --> 00:00:39.439 I may try to take a picture or two. And 15 00:00:39.520 --> 00:00:41.520 you think of that, it's cool. I mean to have 16 00:00:41.600 --> 00:00:44.840 these inter reactions within that. It's cool for a creature 17 00:00:44.840 --> 00:00:48.600 that people say don't exist. Yeah, they're there. Just look around, 18 00:00:49.079 --> 00:01:26.680 Just look around. I'm not a big foot hunter. I'm 19 00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:28.599 a bass fisherman. But the boy, tell you what, I've 20 00:01:28.599 --> 00:01:30.599 sure seen a lot that I didn't expect to see. 21 00:01:31.319 --> 00:01:33.480 How did you find out about Bigfoot. 22 00:01:34.079 --> 00:01:37.239 Well, when I was twelve years old, I didn't even 23 00:01:37.280 --> 00:01:39.760 know the what bigfoot was, to be honest with you. 24 00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:43.040 And you know my grandma. I grew up on a 25 00:01:43.040 --> 00:01:45.959 farm in eastern Oklahoma where my grandpa Grandma raised water 26 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:49.599 my own with candloaks and had every kind of crater 27 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:51.879 that there was or every kind of farm animal that 28 00:01:51.959 --> 00:01:53.719 it was, and you know I helped do all of that. 29 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:58.640 When as a kid and grandhood have been over disc 30 00:01:58.719 --> 00:02:04.319 and the fields really April to get the rose ready 31 00:02:04.319 --> 00:02:05.599 to plant. I was going to go over and I 32 00:02:05.640 --> 00:02:07.760 was going to use what we call hard to level 33 00:02:07.760 --> 00:02:11.840 the rose. That afternoon he come in for lunch and 34 00:02:11.840 --> 00:02:16.639 he told me he said something big. And Harry walked 35 00:02:16.639 --> 00:02:18.639 across the field in front of me and he goes, 36 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:21.400 I don't know what it was, but there's footprints over 37 00:02:21.479 --> 00:02:22.680 and he said, when we go back, I want you 38 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:26.560 to look at him. And grand Paul was a mountain man. 39 00:02:26.639 --> 00:02:28.560 I think I told you this. He was six eleven, 40 00:02:28.599 --> 00:02:31.039 weighed three eighty five. I had an eighteen triple isshue. 41 00:02:31.080 --> 00:02:36.360 He was huge and wasn't scared of anything. And so 42 00:02:37.120 --> 00:02:39.879 after lunch he took off on his tractor and I 43 00:02:39.879 --> 00:02:42.520 took off on mine away we went and we got 44 00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:44.439 over to the field and he showed me the prince 45 00:02:44.639 --> 00:02:49.360 and he couldn't match the strides across the field. And 46 00:02:49.400 --> 00:02:51.520 the field was three quarters of a mile wide, and 47 00:02:51.599 --> 00:02:55.879 then my long rows, and he couldn't match the strides. 48 00:02:56.360 --> 00:02:59.280 And when he put his foot down inside of these prints, 49 00:03:00.280 --> 00:03:02.039 you can't even see it, and told or anything like 50 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:04.879 this his fresh disc ground, but you could see, you know, 51 00:03:05.120 --> 00:03:07.400 through there, and they were huge compared to his foot. 52 00:03:08.400 --> 00:03:10.319 And they walked all the way across this field. And 53 00:03:10.360 --> 00:03:12.319 I talked to him about it, and you know, I 54 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:14.759 told him, I said, is this a was it a bar? 55 00:03:14.840 --> 00:03:17.199 And he goes, well, here goes, it is the biggest 56 00:03:17.240 --> 00:03:19.360 thing bear I've ever seen. But he said it walked 57 00:03:19.400 --> 00:03:21.039 on two legs, he said, and you know you could 58 00:03:21.039 --> 00:03:24.479 tell by the tracks it was. And heck, I was twelve, 59 00:03:24.520 --> 00:03:25.840 and you know I was trying to match the stride, 60 00:03:25.840 --> 00:03:27.520 and heck I couldn't even jump to get close. So 61 00:03:28.919 --> 00:03:33.159 and so that's my first experience with whatever this thing was. 62 00:03:33.199 --> 00:03:34.520 You know, it knew or something. 63 00:03:35.159 --> 00:03:38.400 And you guys, never heard anybody else talking about seeing 64 00:03:38.439 --> 00:03:40.080 anything like that around that area. 65 00:03:41.159 --> 00:03:45.879 No, No, So it wasn't a couple of days later 66 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:48.280 and we were still working in the field, was getting 67 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:53.000 ready to plant. We were at lunchtime. My grandma and 68 00:03:53.039 --> 00:03:55.280 my aunt my mom took off to go into town 69 00:03:55.319 --> 00:03:58.039 to get more food, and so my uncle laid down 70 00:03:58.080 --> 00:04:00.280 after lunch. My uncle laid down on the couch, gotten 71 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:01.800 his recliner, and I laid that on the floor. And 72 00:04:01.840 --> 00:04:04.240 it was gonna take up about hour and out before 73 00:04:04.240 --> 00:04:08.039 we went back to the field. And uh, you know, I 74 00:04:08.080 --> 00:04:11.800 love sweet tea. So I jumped up to walk out 75 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:13.400 on the front porch and take a you know, go 76 00:04:13.439 --> 00:04:20.120 to the bathroom. And this thing, you know, I'm twelve 77 00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:22.560 year old kid watching as a thing walks up. My 78 00:04:22.560 --> 00:04:25.160 grandpa had a bluff what I call a rock bluff 79 00:04:25.199 --> 00:04:29.720 that was north of his property and it was probably 80 00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:32.879 a quarter mile long, and it went up into the woods. 81 00:04:33.439 --> 00:04:37.879 And this thing walked up on this bluff and I'm 82 00:04:37.920 --> 00:04:39.839 sitting there, you know, doing my business. I look up 83 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:42.560 and say this thing coming and I was like, what 84 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:46.040 the heck is this? And I'm shaking in my shoes, 85 00:04:46.079 --> 00:04:48.199 you know, and I had to be doing what I done. 86 00:04:48.360 --> 00:04:50.959 I'd have done it anyway. And it walked up on 87 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:53.800 the bluff and it looked at me, and I'm thinking, 88 00:04:54.040 --> 00:04:58.439 this thing is twice beside my grandfather. So it looks 89 00:04:58.480 --> 00:05:00.399 over at me and it just just it was like 90 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:04.399 this hugh grunt he goes and it just turns and 91 00:05:04.639 --> 00:05:07.120 my ansolantly just walks up the bluff and disapairs into 92 00:05:07.120 --> 00:05:10.199 the woods. Well, the first thing I did, I was 93 00:05:10.319 --> 00:05:11.959 shaking like a leaf and I stuck my head the 94 00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:13.720 door to make sure my grandpa and my uncle wasn't 95 00:05:13.720 --> 00:05:15.279 playing a trick on me, you know, and there sound 96 00:05:15.279 --> 00:05:20.399 asleep on the couch. And so that was my first 97 00:05:20.439 --> 00:05:23.680 experience with I'm sure it was a big foot, and 98 00:05:23.720 --> 00:05:25.600 I didn't know what one was. I never heard of one. 99 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:27.920 I'd never seen the legends or the movies or any 100 00:05:27.959 --> 00:05:32.319 of that stuff. But looking back what I have seen 101 00:05:32.360 --> 00:05:35.240 to this day, that's what it did, no doubt my mind. 102 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:39.279 What color was the one that you saw? It was 103 00:05:39.319 --> 00:05:43.800 a blackish brown, pretty dark in color, yeah, yeah. 104 00:05:43.680 --> 00:05:48.199 And long hair. It didn't I ever get a smell 105 00:05:48.279 --> 00:05:51.439 of it, but it was just to me it looked 106 00:05:51.439 --> 00:05:56.000 a cross between a giant human and a giant monkey. 107 00:05:56.160 --> 00:05:57.720 Ate be my best description. 108 00:05:59.040 --> 00:06:00.839 Was it bigger than your grandfather? 109 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:05.199 Oh yes, yeah, probably two foot wider at the shoulders, 110 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:07.879 maybe three and probably four foot taller than my grandma. 111 00:06:07.920 --> 00:06:08.240 Wow. 112 00:06:09.639 --> 00:06:11.720 Yeah, I mean scared me death. It really I was 113 00:06:11.759 --> 00:06:17.720 shaking in my shoes. And you know, I didn't tell 114 00:06:17.759 --> 00:06:20.360 anybody about it. I would just like you know, it's 115 00:06:20.920 --> 00:06:23.160 you know, I grew up in Oklahoma. Like I've shared 116 00:06:23.199 --> 00:06:26.199 with before, I know every creator and creature and every 117 00:06:26.439 --> 00:06:29.680 wildlife that's in this state. You know, the Wildlife Department 118 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:31.839 tell you black panthers don't exist. I've seen them everywhere, 119 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:37.879 mountain lions, bobcats, links, you know, deer turkey, a hundred 120 00:06:37.920 --> 00:06:41.600 of dollar seeing it all. Yeah, there's no way this 121 00:06:41.720 --> 00:06:42.160 was any of that. 122 00:06:43.000 --> 00:06:44.079 Yeah, you know. 123 00:06:44.120 --> 00:06:45.600 And then fast forward to what I was sharing with 124 00:06:45.639 --> 00:06:48.879 you that happened this year. I man, I don't go 125 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:51.759 looking for bigfoot. I'm a bass fisherman. I loved the 126 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:55.959 bass fish. I lost a boy to cancer fourteen years ago. 127 00:06:56.040 --> 00:06:59.600 He was nineteen and me and him, and when he died, 128 00:06:59.600 --> 00:07:02.240 I gave a punting. But all I want to do 129 00:07:02.279 --> 00:07:04.160 now is fish because I've been trigging old bass into 130 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:09.519 hitting an artificial learning and let it go and got 131 00:07:09.560 --> 00:07:12.360 a lake that I love to go to and over 132 00:07:12.399 --> 00:07:15.199 the years, I've had some odd stuff happen, but this 133 00:07:15.399 --> 00:07:20.000 year was just the Hey, I'm still blowed by what 134 00:07:20.319 --> 00:07:22.079 all has happened that I saw this year. 135 00:07:23.439 --> 00:07:25.240 When did it all kind of start this year? 136 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:27.000 April? 137 00:07:27.519 --> 00:07:27.920 April? 138 00:07:28.920 --> 00:07:32.600 Yeah, it was a I went over to UH that's 139 00:07:32.680 --> 00:07:35.680 usually about when the fish kind of started getting ready 140 00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:38.160 to spawn, and I like, I like to go over 141 00:07:38.199 --> 00:07:40.560 and for a worm on the beds and try to 142 00:07:40.600 --> 00:07:43.560 catch one and then let him go. But but I 143 00:07:43.600 --> 00:07:45.399 was by myself the first day that I was over there, 144 00:07:45.600 --> 00:07:49.360 and uh in April, and I come around this corner 145 00:07:49.399 --> 00:07:51.199 where I liked I always start on this bank of fish, 146 00:07:51.279 --> 00:07:53.839 and I was fishing down through there, and beautiful day, 147 00:07:53.959 --> 00:08:01.720 and I started hearing this low guttural growl sound that 148 00:08:01.800 --> 00:08:06.319 sounded a cross between a lion and a crocodile. If 149 00:08:06.360 --> 00:08:08.959 you ever watched this stuff, like where the crocodile and 150 00:08:09.079 --> 00:08:13.639 alligators growl and they make the water. Yeah, you combine 151 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:15.800 those two, but make it to where it's so loud 152 00:08:15.920 --> 00:08:20.000 that it bounces off your chest and it hurts. And 153 00:08:20.079 --> 00:08:23.519 I'm fishing probably ten yards at the most off the bank, 154 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:28.240 and where I'm fishing is just trees everywhere. I mean 155 00:08:28.519 --> 00:08:32.159 just I never seen anything, but it was growling at 156 00:08:32.240 --> 00:08:34.159 me as I was fishing down the bank with my 157 00:08:34.240 --> 00:08:37.879 troller motor. And then I finally got you know, after 158 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:40.519 three or four minutes of this of it just persisting 159 00:08:40.639 --> 00:08:42.080 that there's like something wants to me out of here. 160 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:45.320 And that's you know, I've never heard it sound before, 161 00:08:47.200 --> 00:08:49.879 and so I gave it what it was, and I 162 00:08:49.960 --> 00:08:51.879 put troller motor on high, and I thought, well, I 163 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:53.759 just going down the bank, get away from them. Well 164 00:08:54.679 --> 00:08:56.399 I thought I was getting away from but stupid thing 165 00:08:56.480 --> 00:09:00.399 kept following me down the bank and got a half 166 00:09:00.440 --> 00:09:01.799 a mile from where I was at, and the circle 167 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:04.320 will still following me. But where it was at it 168 00:09:04.440 --> 00:09:08.080 went from where I started fishing. You know, there was 169 00:09:08.799 --> 00:09:10.440 it's like a flat in there with a bunch of 170 00:09:10.519 --> 00:09:12.200 tickets and all that kind of stuff. So this turned 171 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:14.559 into a sheer bluff and whatever this was, it was 172 00:09:14.600 --> 00:09:18.000 falling along on this bluff up probably thirty yards above me, 173 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:20.720 hiding in the trees. I couldn't see it. All I 174 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:23.440 could do was here and see the trees all shaken. 175 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:27.720 And then the next thing, I know, this rock that's 176 00:09:27.759 --> 00:09:30.039 probably the size of basketball comes flying over the top 177 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:33.799 of my head and it's on about five yards from 178 00:09:33.840 --> 00:09:37.919 my boat, and I'm like, good grief. And so that's 179 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:39.279 when I fired up the motor and I said, no, 180 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:40.480 you can have it. I don't know what you are, 181 00:09:40.559 --> 00:09:42.960 but you can have it. And so I got away 182 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:43.240 from there. 183 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:46.759 One on those I like, we're not going to give 184 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:51.360 away the name of the lake, but I will say 185 00:09:51.879 --> 00:09:58.200 that I grew up on this lake, and you know, 186 00:09:58.360 --> 00:10:05.960 I've fished it countless numbers of times. But yeah, all 187 00:10:06.039 --> 00:10:09.600 the big rock bluffs you're talking about, in my entire life, 188 00:10:10.360 --> 00:10:14.159 I've never seen a rock come off those rock bluffs. 189 00:10:15.919 --> 00:10:19.120 I haven't either, So this isn't something that just, you know, happens. 190 00:10:19.200 --> 00:10:21.200 There's not just a bunch of rocks falling off these 191 00:10:21.279 --> 00:10:25.759 bluffs or anything. There's not one single time I've ever 192 00:10:25.799 --> 00:10:27.919 seen a rock come off. So something had to have 193 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:30.399 thrown that rock. There ain't no way that that just 194 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:31.639 fell naturally. 195 00:10:32.399 --> 00:10:34.039 Well and where it was that the force that it 196 00:10:34.039 --> 00:10:36.039 would have taken to got it off of there. It's 197 00:10:36.080 --> 00:10:38.480 not going to come rolling and go over my head 198 00:10:38.559 --> 00:10:40.679 and hit up there and make the splash that it made. 199 00:10:40.759 --> 00:10:44.120 I mean, it just yeah, these rock bluffs are like 200 00:10:44.200 --> 00:10:48.960 giant walls. They're completely you know, steep sheer drop offs there. 201 00:10:49.120 --> 00:10:51.440 There's no hill that it could have got momentum and 202 00:10:51.559 --> 00:10:52.720 balanced or anything like that. 203 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:56.320 Yeah, but yeah, I went over and start fishing on 204 00:10:56.360 --> 00:10:57.679 the other side of like it, Like, yep, you can 205 00:10:57.759 --> 00:10:59.120 have it. Whatever you are, you can have it. 206 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:04.200 Well, you're mind going to bigfoot at that point. 207 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:09.360 I never saw it. I could hear it with the growl, yeah, 208 00:11:10.200 --> 00:11:12.480 and I'm like, what else could it be? I mean, 209 00:11:12.720 --> 00:11:14.840 there's not anything that I know of that can throw 210 00:11:14.840 --> 00:11:17.120 a rock that big that far with that much force. 211 00:11:17.879 --> 00:11:19.600 The ain't no human going to do it. There ain't 212 00:11:19.639 --> 00:11:21.679 no bear going to do it. I mean there's black 213 00:11:21.720 --> 00:11:23.240 bear over there, but they're no black bear going to 214 00:11:23.279 --> 00:11:24.919 pick up a rock that size and throw it. 215 00:11:25.639 --> 00:11:27.759 Well, what was the next experience you had this year? 216 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:33.720 It was about a week after that and men friend 217 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:36.840 of mine was fishing and we were on a different 218 00:11:36.879 --> 00:11:39.200 part of the lake and we were coming down this 219 00:11:39.320 --> 00:11:42.080 bank that has these two points on it that I 220 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:46.799 love to fish that time of year, and I'm looking 221 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:49.759 ahead of me. He's fishing back towards the point, and 222 00:11:49.879 --> 00:11:54.879 I look ahead of me and I watch this creature, 223 00:11:56.440 --> 00:12:01.720 giant creature, black as black as night, walk off the 224 00:12:01.840 --> 00:12:04.120 side of the hill and didn't even know we were there. 225 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:08.639 And he walked off the side of the hill, knelt 226 00:12:08.720 --> 00:12:12.000 down like a like me, and you would knelt kind 227 00:12:12.039 --> 00:12:15.320 of to get drink water. And you know, the water 228 00:12:15.399 --> 00:12:17.639 on this lake is pretty clear, and it knelt down 229 00:12:17.679 --> 00:12:19.039 and was getting to drink and it was using its 230 00:12:19.080 --> 00:12:24.799 hand to cup it. Well, it saw me or heard 231 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:29.039 the troller motor or something, and it stood up and 232 00:12:29.159 --> 00:12:31.120 looked over at me, and you know, I knew we 233 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:33.519 were made. And I hollered at my friend and I 234 00:12:33.639 --> 00:12:38.519 said look. And by the time that happened, this thing 235 00:12:38.600 --> 00:12:41.720 had taken two steps and was back up the side 236 00:12:41.720 --> 00:12:44.720 of the hill. And it was almost like it was 237 00:12:44.799 --> 00:12:49.480 gliding this smooth It was just like it was not 238 00:12:49.639 --> 00:12:53.080 even walking, but it was. And in two steps it 239 00:12:53.159 --> 00:12:54.279 was up and out of the sight. 240 00:12:54.960 --> 00:12:55.200 Wow. 241 00:12:56.279 --> 00:13:00.519 Well, I went down to see how big this thing 242 00:13:00.720 --> 00:13:05.399 was compared to a tree, and I couldn't get on 243 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:08.799 the bank where was that But it had to bend 244 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:14.679 twelve to thirteen foot tall. Wow, because the I could 245 00:13:14.720 --> 00:13:16.799 reach up and grab this one branch and that would 246 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:21.600 have come about to its what I would call it's underchest, 247 00:13:21.679 --> 00:13:25.200 right under beneath its breasts. And this was a male. 248 00:13:25.279 --> 00:13:27.159 It wasn't. It wasn't a female. This was a male 249 00:13:27.360 --> 00:13:31.240 and it was huge, but it wouldn't It wasn't as 250 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:32.759 thick as I would have thought it would have been. 251 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:38.159 But it was just tall and just the when you 252 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:41.039 watched it walk, it's its legs. You could see the 253 00:13:41.159 --> 00:13:44.120 muscles flexing in its thighs and its calves. But it 254 00:13:44.200 --> 00:13:46.720 was only for just like I said, two steps. But 255 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:50.159 it was the most fluid thing ever. And that's really 256 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:54.440 the best best look at that I ever got. The 257 00:13:54.600 --> 00:13:56.440 one I saw as a kid, it was the same thing. 258 00:13:56.480 --> 00:13:58.759 I know, be on shadow of doubt, but watch this 259 00:13:58.879 --> 00:14:02.320 thing move and walk was amazing and how fast it was. 260 00:14:03.039 --> 00:14:06.039 What would you say the size comparison between the two were? 261 00:14:06.559 --> 00:14:08.120 Were they around the same size? 262 00:14:08.519 --> 00:14:10.759 No, this one was bigger than the one that I 263 00:14:10.840 --> 00:14:13.240 saw as a kid. Okay, it was probably a couple 264 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:17.399 of taller, I would guess, but it wasn't as musclely and. 265 00:14:17.480 --> 00:14:19.600 Whenever it was walking, I don't I don't know if 266 00:14:19.639 --> 00:14:21.519 this is something you need even notice or not. But 267 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:24.360 was it looking at the ground when it walked or 268 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:26.480 was it looking at you or what was it doing? 269 00:14:27.480 --> 00:14:29.120 No, it turned around and was looking and going up 270 00:14:29.120 --> 00:14:32.879 the side of the bank where come down. And it 271 00:14:32.960 --> 00:14:35.240 wasn't a sheer bluff where this was at. It's pretty steep, 272 00:14:35.480 --> 00:14:37.960 but he was just he turned around and was headed 273 00:14:37.960 --> 00:14:39.559 back into the woods as fast as he could get 274 00:14:39.559 --> 00:14:42.480 there to get away from me. And I'm less than 275 00:14:42.840 --> 00:14:45.720 I'm just telling you, I'm less than fifty sixty yards 276 00:14:45.759 --> 00:14:47.559 from this thing. So I got a great look at it. 277 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:52.440 Yeah, and this is early morning or daily time. What 278 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:53.480 about time of day? 279 00:14:54.480 --> 00:14:58.240 Oh, it was probably two o'clock in the afternoon in April, 280 00:14:58.639 --> 00:15:02.519 about a week or so, two weeks after that other experience. 281 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:04.000 What did your buddy say? 282 00:15:04.960 --> 00:15:08.200 He didn't ever see it, but he knew that I 283 00:15:08.399 --> 00:15:11.240 wasn't pulling his leg. I'll just put it that way. Yeah, 284 00:15:11.759 --> 00:15:15.399 because we've had conversations and you know, I'll get it. 285 00:15:15.519 --> 00:15:18.440 I'll tell you more about that later on. But he's 286 00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:20.840 a believer now, one hundred percent of believer after what 287 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:21.759 happened in November. 288 00:15:21.840 --> 00:15:27.120 But and I mean obviously with that size, I mean, 289 00:15:27.200 --> 00:15:31.360 I'm just clarifying these points for the listeners. That size 290 00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:35.279 walking up right like that and everything scooping water up 291 00:15:35.320 --> 00:15:37.960 with its hand. Clearly not a black bear. 292 00:15:39.200 --> 00:15:42.919 Clearly not a black bear. I've seen black bear over there, 293 00:15:43.960 --> 00:15:47.000 you know, the four or five foot tall. Yeah, this 294 00:15:47.159 --> 00:15:49.200 is not a black bear. This is not a black bear. 295 00:15:50.519 --> 00:15:52.600 And the twos that we saw in November, they're not 296 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:53.120 a black bear. 297 00:15:56.080 --> 00:15:58.759 Was that the next incident that happened, the one in November. 298 00:16:00.159 --> 00:16:02.799 No, there was some stuff that went on through the 299 00:16:02.879 --> 00:16:04.960 summer over there. I mean we were over there on 300 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:08.799 a on a day where there was no wind blowing whatsoever, 301 00:16:09.159 --> 00:16:13.639 and this giant tree come crashing down upon hill. We 302 00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:16.600 watched it fall. I mean you heard the crack and 303 00:16:16.639 --> 00:16:19.399 the boom and watched it fall and no wind whatsoever. 304 00:16:19.440 --> 00:16:22.279 And it's like, yes, I understand trees falling the wood, 305 00:16:22.360 --> 00:16:24.720 but on a tree that big on a day like 306 00:16:24.840 --> 00:16:29.480 today was no wind. I mean it made you could 307 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:31.799 heard it all over the lake. That's how loud it was. 308 00:16:32.720 --> 00:16:35.879 And how far away from you was it probably two 309 00:16:35.960 --> 00:16:42.399 hundred yards, so pretty close. Good chance that if something 310 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:44.399 did push that tree over, it was doing it for 311 00:16:44.559 --> 00:16:47.399 the benefit of letting you know it was there. 312 00:16:48.559 --> 00:16:53.600 Correct, correct, And you know I've shared with you too. 313 00:16:53.639 --> 00:16:56.240 You know, there's just so much weird stuff happened over there, 314 00:16:56.440 --> 00:17:00.879 you know, the creek being damned up. Yeah, where you 315 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:03.519 can't take a boat up through there anymore, a kayak 316 00:17:03.600 --> 00:17:05.240 down through there now. I don't know if it still is. 317 00:17:05.319 --> 00:17:08.119 This was back late July August that they tried to 318 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:09.759 go up in there and fish and they couldn't go 319 00:17:09.960 --> 00:17:14.039 because something had moved rocks. They said that was half 320 00:17:14.039 --> 00:17:18.000 as big as boat wagons and walked this creek all 321 00:17:18.039 --> 00:17:21.599 the way across there to where you can't get up 322 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:24.319 through there anymore. And nobody's been kayaking and stuff. And 323 00:17:24.960 --> 00:17:28.039 I thought it was just really weird that that happened. 324 00:17:28.160 --> 00:17:31.319 It just he told me, he said they used to 325 00:17:31.319 --> 00:17:33.000 go up and fish all the time. And he said 326 00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:35.160 you can't even get past it. He said, you have 327 00:17:35.240 --> 00:17:37.680 to carry a kayak twenty yards just to be able 328 00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:40.359 to get around it. 329 00:17:41.240 --> 00:17:43.720 And this was an area that was pretty popular for 330 00:17:43.880 --> 00:17:48.240 kayakers and canoers and everything else. And yes, sir, there 331 00:17:49.319 --> 00:17:54.480 typically at this lake, if something's going on, a word 332 00:17:54.559 --> 00:17:59.680 of it spreads pretty quickly. And there was no notice 333 00:17:59.759 --> 00:18:03.000 or anything that they, you know, the GRDA or whoever 334 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:05.160 isn't going to come in and set up the rocks 335 00:18:05.240 --> 00:18:08.160 or anything to block kayakers. And these are like huge 336 00:18:08.279 --> 00:18:09.599 boulders that we're talking. 337 00:18:09.359 --> 00:18:13.480 About, right, And number one, the GRDA. We want to 338 00:18:13.480 --> 00:18:15.079 have the equipment to move it if in there where 339 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:18.240 this is at. Yeah, And I mean there's no way 340 00:18:18.279 --> 00:18:19.680 to even get in there where it's at. 341 00:18:20.079 --> 00:18:24.160 No, there's no access roads or anything there, right. Yeah. 342 00:18:24.359 --> 00:18:27.799 I don't even know how it would be possible for 343 00:18:28.359 --> 00:18:30.839 people to do it, and it would definitely be an 344 00:18:31.039 --> 00:18:35.960 undertaking that somebody would notice it going on or something. Yes, 345 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:39.400 do you think they were just trying to keep people 346 00:18:39.480 --> 00:18:41.039 out of that area for some reason? 347 00:18:42.759 --> 00:18:45.000 Matt, I really do. I think that's what's going on. 348 00:18:45.319 --> 00:18:49.359 I think that there is because I know of three 349 00:18:49.599 --> 00:18:52.720 that I have seen different ones this year, and I 350 00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:56.160 think maybe a clan or family or something has come 351 00:18:56.240 --> 00:18:59.559 in there that is aggressive or don't want people in there, 352 00:18:59.799 --> 00:19:05.279 or you know, there's just too much, too much stuff. 353 00:19:05.319 --> 00:19:08.680 That's just it doesn't make sense, but it makes total 354 00:19:08.720 --> 00:19:11.359 sense to me. And like I said, I'm a bass fisherman, 355 00:19:12.039 --> 00:19:14.400 but I also know where the big foot is and 356 00:19:14.920 --> 00:19:18.920 I've seen them now and one hundred percent in my mind, 357 00:19:19.880 --> 00:19:23.400 these creatures are there. They're smart, Oh my gosh, or 358 00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:25.359 they're smart. You know. I was sharing with you that 359 00:19:25.440 --> 00:19:27.680 one morning we went over there, we're going to go 360 00:19:27.759 --> 00:19:30.960 do some topwater fishing, and got the spot that I 361 00:19:31.200 --> 00:19:34.119 really love to go to, and we pulled up there 362 00:19:34.480 --> 00:19:39.680 as the sun's coming up and the water was filthy, 363 00:19:39.920 --> 00:19:47.279 filthy mud like something had been in there hurting fish 364 00:19:47.400 --> 00:19:51.000 or moving fish, because you could see where up onto 365 00:19:51.079 --> 00:19:54.160 the bank. There was still water everywhere all over the 366 00:19:54.240 --> 00:19:59.160 bank where they had pushed something. But the water was 367 00:19:59.279 --> 00:20:05.039 just a suit. Well, there's nothing gonna three or four 368 00:20:05.119 --> 00:20:07.880 deer running around is not gonna, you know, when the 369 00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:09.839 water going to muddy it up like that. And when 370 00:20:09.880 --> 00:20:13.880 I say muddy a soup, the water looked like chocolate 371 00:20:13.920 --> 00:20:17.759 milk and a big area. But the weird part of 372 00:20:17.839 --> 00:20:22.519 it was the how the bank was in this area 373 00:20:22.599 --> 00:20:25.160 that's two to three foot deep in water, How the 374 00:20:25.240 --> 00:20:28.359 bank was just there was water everywhere in moss and 375 00:20:28.480 --> 00:20:31.160 grass where something had done. 376 00:20:31.039 --> 00:20:33.720 Something, something that moved a lot of water up onto 377 00:20:33.759 --> 00:20:34.119 the bank. 378 00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:36.720 That is correct, a lot of water. 379 00:20:37.839 --> 00:20:41.640 Yeah, I've never heard about anything like that before. There's 380 00:20:41.680 --> 00:20:44.559 a good opportunity for him to, you know, be chasing 381 00:20:44.640 --> 00:20:45.440 carp or something. 382 00:20:46.079 --> 00:20:47.680 I think that's what they were doing, because we had 383 00:20:47.720 --> 00:20:49.160 been seeing a lot of carp back there, and I 384 00:20:49.279 --> 00:20:52.440 think they were freshed pushing carp somehow they'd made some 385 00:20:52.519 --> 00:20:54.480 way to or they know how to push carp up 386 00:20:54.519 --> 00:20:56.480 onto the bank and they take them where they live. 387 00:20:56.599 --> 00:21:01.240 And yeah, that's what I think, which I'm happy that 388 00:21:01.319 --> 00:21:06.000 they're doing it because I hate carps. I didn't share 389 00:21:06.039 --> 00:21:08.440 this with you last time, but there's been a couple 390 00:21:08.480 --> 00:21:10.720 of times we've been over there, you know, Earth and 391 00:21:10.799 --> 00:21:13.200 mom Ambition, and we start hearing children laughing. 392 00:21:13.720 --> 00:21:15.559 Huh yeah. 393 00:21:15.680 --> 00:21:18.720 I mean it's just a dangers thing. Just sound like 394 00:21:18.759 --> 00:21:21.119 a bunch of little kids laughing and playing. I couldn't 395 00:21:21.119 --> 00:21:23.279 see them, didn't see any movement everything. It's just the 396 00:21:23.759 --> 00:21:26.559 craziest thing you ever seen or heard. I mean, the 397 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:31.440 same area, same area, same area. You know. 398 00:21:31.519 --> 00:21:36.480 The laughter is something that gets reported fairly often mm hmm. 399 00:21:37.839 --> 00:21:41.160 And it's creepy. It's super creepy. 400 00:21:41.839 --> 00:21:43.359 I'm telling you, just birthdy that heard it. 401 00:21:43.880 --> 00:21:45.880