WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:06.240 This is a podcast from wor is the Jesse Kelly Show. 2 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:10.599 Another hour of The Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, 3 00:00:10.759 --> 00:00:13.960 fantastic Thursday. Remember we got Brandon wik At about a 4 00:00:14.000 --> 00:00:17.559 half hour from now talking Rutchia, Ukraine, Iran and net 5 00:00:17.679 --> 00:00:18.679 Yahoo stuff. 6 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:21.679 We have Carol Roth next hour, but we have other 7 00:00:21.760 --> 00:00:24.559 things we have to discuss, and there are lots of them. 8 00:00:25.079 --> 00:00:28.280 Communist lies is on the list. I have a fear 9 00:00:28.519 --> 00:00:31.839 about how bad the Democrats are. Right now, I'll explain 10 00:00:31.879 --> 00:00:34.880 what I mean, but first I want to talk again 11 00:00:36.119 --> 00:00:41.840 in a different way, about trust, institutional trust, why it 12 00:00:42.000 --> 00:00:47.280 really matters in what's happening out there. So I'm gonna 13 00:00:47.359 --> 00:00:52.600 use this example because people, it can be confusing. What 14 00:00:52.759 --> 00:00:57.799 actually is power? What is short term power? What is 15 00:00:58.000 --> 00:01:02.079 lasting long term power? So let me explain the difference. 16 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:06.760 Let's say I am. I am in charge of the 17 00:01:06.799 --> 00:01:11.599 police department. I'm the police chief. Small town, pretty small town. 18 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:15.159 We're in West Virginia. We're in rural West Virginia, and 19 00:01:15.239 --> 00:01:19.200 it's a twenty person police department. I take over. I'm 20 00:01:19.239 --> 00:01:24.640 the police chief. I am an evil, corrupt human being. 21 00:01:26.280 --> 00:01:30.640 Now I use my position as police chief to fill 22 00:01:30.719 --> 00:01:35.200 up my twenty person police department with other evil, corrupt people, 23 00:01:35.719 --> 00:01:39.319 and we will deal drugs, we'll commit murders, we'll do 24 00:01:39.400 --> 00:01:44.200 whatever with the authority of the police department. In fact, 25 00:01:45.079 --> 00:01:47.040 if you because you're a part of my town, if 26 00:01:47.079 --> 00:01:49.879 you make me angry, if I decide I want you 27 00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:52.280 out of the way, maybe you witnessed me commit a crime, 28 00:01:54.239 --> 00:01:58.640 I have the power to gather my men, my guns, 29 00:01:58.680 --> 00:02:01.680 and myself and come out to your home and kill you, 30 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:07.280 arrest you, shoot. You say, that's short term power. I 31 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:15.919 have that, but that's not long lasting, tangible power. And 32 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:21.479 here's what I mean. If I do that once twice, 33 00:02:22.159 --> 00:02:27.280 ten times, how many times do me and my officers, 34 00:02:27.759 --> 00:02:30.319 how many times do we have to commit a crime 35 00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:35.400 or do some kind of horribly corrupt thing until the 36 00:02:35.520 --> 00:02:40.000 people of my community decide they no longer trust me, 37 00:02:40.960 --> 00:02:44.400 they have declared me to be the enemy. And at 38 00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:47.080 some point in time, I hop in a car with 39 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:49.800 five of my other cops and we drive out to 40 00:02:49.840 --> 00:02:52.840 a home to commit a crime, and we get ambushed 41 00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:56.159 and murdered by the people of the town. At some 42 00:02:56.280 --> 00:03:01.000 point it will happen. These things don't happen without end. Now, 43 00:03:01.120 --> 00:03:04.360 why why did I end up dying in losing my 44 00:03:04.520 --> 00:03:09.639 power because I lost the trust of the people, and 45 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:17.439 that that is long term, lasting institutional power. And that's 46 00:03:17.520 --> 00:03:20.360 the most important kind of power. I realized. For the 47 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:24.000 individual you when I showed up to murder you, none 48 00:03:24.039 --> 00:03:26.120 of the long term stuff matters because you're going to 49 00:03:26.120 --> 00:03:31.280 die in the short term. But on a long term scale, 50 00:03:31.919 --> 00:03:37.560 on a thirty thousand foot view scale, what matters for 51 00:03:37.719 --> 00:03:42.560 the institution. For my police department, the most important thing 52 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:46.960 is that the people trust it and rely on it. 53 00:03:47.039 --> 00:03:52.240 If I have that, the police department will have power forever. 54 00:03:52.759 --> 00:03:56.840 If I violate that, if I lose that, the people 55 00:03:56.960 --> 00:04:00.960 will take their trust away and my least department in 56 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:03.919 the end will be completely powerless at some point in time, 57 00:04:03.960 --> 00:04:06.400 no matter how long that takes. Maybe it's twenty years, 58 00:04:06.439 --> 00:04:11.719 thirty years, but it will happen. I saw this woman. 59 00:04:13.000 --> 00:04:16.560 She is affectionately known on this show as doctor Witch, 60 00:04:17.160 --> 00:04:20.959 but her name is actually doctor Wynn. She used to 61 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:25.879 be in charge of Planned Parenthood. She now is obviously 62 00:04:25.920 --> 00:04:28.959 a contributor to CNN. She goes on there to talk 63 00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:31.279 about medical things. She goes on there to lie because 64 00:04:31.279 --> 00:04:37.079 it's CNN. She was ranting and raving about RFK Junior 65 00:04:37.079 --> 00:04:39.319 in some of the things he's doing. Here's what she said. 66 00:04:39.439 --> 00:04:41.639 This is the reason why we look to guidelines. There 67 00:04:41.639 --> 00:04:45.920 are medical organizations that synthesize these data. And by the way, 68 00:04:45.959 --> 00:04:48.439 we look up to the CDC, or at least throughout history, 69 00:04:48.480 --> 00:04:50.519 we have looked up to the CDC, to the FDA 70 00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:54.399 to compile these studies for us and to make recommendations. 71 00:04:54.839 --> 00:04:58.879 And this we have always throughout history depended on our 72 00:04:58.959 --> 00:05:02.560 federal agencies as the gold standard for expertise. 73 00:05:04.720 --> 00:05:10.000 Really, these federal agencies, we have looked up to them 74 00:05:10.040 --> 00:05:14.920 as the gold standard for expertise. Okay, she's actually not 75 00:05:14.920 --> 00:05:19.800 wrong about that. It we hop at a time machine, you 76 00:05:19.879 --> 00:05:23.360 and me, we go back to the year true not 77 00:05:23.399 --> 00:05:28.879 even ancient history. Twenty fifteen, And you ask Jesse if 78 00:05:28.879 --> 00:05:32.959 he believes the things the CDC says. Jesse says, yep, 79 00:05:33.040 --> 00:05:37.360 I would tell you absolutely, Maybe not everything at face value. 80 00:05:37.360 --> 00:05:39.759 But if the CDC put out a warning, hey, don't 81 00:05:39.800 --> 00:05:43.439 travel to Mexico, don't eat this, don't it. I'm listening, 82 00:05:43.759 --> 00:05:50.360 it's the CDC. So twenty fifteen, Jesse did very much 83 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:56.519 trust organizations like the CDC. Now twenty twenty five. Jesse 84 00:05:57.399 --> 00:06:01.439 when the CDC is brought up, scoff and rolls his eyes. 85 00:06:01.800 --> 00:06:03.759 In fact, I'm looking at a headline here, I'll tell 86 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:06.480 you immediately the fellows put it in front of me, Chris, 87 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:08.600 Jewish producer Chris and producer Core. They put it in 88 00:06:08.600 --> 00:06:11.040 front of me. I read it and I physically rolled 89 00:06:11.040 --> 00:06:13.680 my eyes immediately. You want to know the headline new 90 00:06:13.839 --> 00:06:18.399 Chinese COVID strain spreads to the US. Immediately, I went 91 00:06:18.439 --> 00:06:23.519 from here we go again, Well, why it's only been 92 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:26.519 ten years. I don't know. Maybe we should go back 93 00:06:27.160 --> 00:06:31.879 to this little flashback from that same doctor doctor which 94 00:06:32.519 --> 00:06:33.199 during COVID. 95 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:36.360 Of course, I strongly believe that indoor masking should be 96 00:06:36.439 --> 00:06:39.199 the case, including it in really in all schools in 97 00:06:39.240 --> 00:06:41.879 this country at this point. But even in schools that 98 00:06:41.959 --> 00:06:45.439 don't have masking, parents can still do their part and 99 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:48.000 take matters into their own hands. For example, talk to 100 00:06:48.040 --> 00:06:50.480 other parents in your child's class see if. 101 00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:52.279 The majority of parents would agree with you. 102 00:06:52.199 --> 00:06:55.199 To also put masks on their kids. Also, make sure 103 00:06:55.199 --> 00:06:57.240 that your child is wearing at least a three ply 104 00:06:57.399 --> 00:07:00.279 surgical mask, not a cloth face covering, but as that 105 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:02.439 helps to protect your health and better them. Try to 106 00:07:02.439 --> 00:07:05.560 get the school to also disclose all positive cases and 107 00:07:05.720 --> 00:07:08.040 increased testing. That's something that there's sale fund. 108 00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:14.199 Why doesn't anybody trust these gold standard expertise organizations anymore? 109 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:18.160 Because you took down the outdoor basketball hoops, because you 110 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:21.399 told an entire country of three hundred million people to 111 00:07:21.439 --> 00:07:25.040 stand six feet away from everybody, because you closed schools, 112 00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:28.240 because you cost people their jobs, because people had to 113 00:07:28.279 --> 00:07:32.199 say goodbye to their parents by zoom in the hospital. 114 00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:37.000 You arrested a paddle boarder in the ocean on camera 115 00:07:37.959 --> 00:07:41.639 outside paddle boarding by himself. And you did all this, 116 00:07:42.319 --> 00:07:48.319 all this using medical expertise as your shield, and you 117 00:07:48.399 --> 00:07:53.160 did it as if that trust would be endless, and 118 00:07:53.240 --> 00:08:00.240 now you're finding out it's not. It's finite. We were 119 00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:03.360 talking about Harvard earlier in the show, Harvard this and 120 00:08:03.399 --> 00:08:04.519 Harvard that and Harvard this. 121 00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:05.439 Oh. 122 00:08:05.480 --> 00:08:08.800 I know Harvard has had a blast pushing communism into 123 00:08:08.800 --> 00:08:12.720 American society. But whether or not Trump stomps him into 124 00:08:12.759 --> 00:08:17.000 the ground in the end, it won't matter why because 125 00:08:17.000 --> 00:08:17.879 you're already leaving. 126 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:20.360 I think going into this, I think a lot of 127 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:22.920 Americans thought that hier Ed needed a nice kick in 128 00:08:22.920 --> 00:08:24.839 the rear end. What am I talking about here? Well, 129 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:26.600 why don't we take a look at high confidence and 130 00:08:26.680 --> 00:08:29.480 higher education. You go back a decade ago, fifty seven 131 00:08:29.519 --> 00:08:32.759 percent of Americans had high confidence in higher education. 132 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:34.000 Look at where we are now. 133 00:08:34.039 --> 00:08:37.120 That number has plummeted, plummeted as of last year, down 134 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:39.960 to thirty six percent. We're talking about a thirty six 135 00:08:40.039 --> 00:08:45.039 point drop among Republicans. Specifically, get this, sixty eight percent 136 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:48.600 of Americans said that higher education was on. 137 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:49.480 The wrong track. 138 00:08:49.759 --> 00:08:52.000 So it's a question of whether or not people agree 139 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:54.960 with Trump's tactics, but they definitely agree with him on 140 00:08:55.039 --> 00:08:56.840 the idea. 141 00:08:57.279 --> 00:09:02.039 Two thirds of the country just a little while ago, yesterday, 142 00:09:02.720 --> 00:09:08.679 two thirds of the country, when they heard names like Harvard, Stanford, 143 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:13.919 they thought to themselves, Wow, that's pretty cool man. You 144 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:18.320 would tell you got into Harvard. WHOA, Now you just 145 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:22.960 heard the numbers. Two thirds of the country. When you 146 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:26.440 tell them Harvard, you bring it up, they go, oh yeah, 147 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:32.320 here we go. And in the end, Harvard is finding 148 00:09:32.360 --> 00:09:36.159 out what we've talked about over and over and over, Agune. 149 00:09:36.320 --> 00:09:39.440 Harvard is finding out what the FBI found out, what 150 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:42.480 the medical establishment has found out, what the media has 151 00:09:42.559 --> 00:09:46.399 found out. They're all finding out what Jesse tried to 152 00:09:46.399 --> 00:09:53.279 warn everybody about years ago. Trust is necessary, and trust 153 00:09:54.120 --> 00:10:01.000 is not an infinite supply. You violated enough times, people 154 00:10:01.039 --> 00:10:05.480 will move on, and from there you'll discover that the 155 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:09.919 only true power you had, long lasting power, was the 156 00:10:09.960 --> 00:10:13.440 trust they gave you, the legitimacy they gave you. Once 157 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:18.200 they remove it, it's gone and almost impossible to get back. 158 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:20.679 I'm going to expand on that just a little bit 159 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:23.799 more in a second hand a Jesse Kelly show on 160 00:10:24.080 --> 00:10:27.639 a Fantastic Thursday. We have Brandon Wiker coming up about 161 00:10:27.639 --> 00:10:30.000 ten minutes from now to do all kinds of foreign 162 00:10:30.120 --> 00:10:33.960 policy nerd out things. But right now we're having another 163 00:10:34.039 --> 00:10:39.840 talk about trust, and I want to be totally upfront 164 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:44.279 and honest and crystal clear about this. It's really important 165 00:10:44.279 --> 00:10:48.360 that we have institutions we can trust and do trust. 166 00:10:49.519 --> 00:10:52.159 I don't celebrate where we are, and you shouldn't either. 167 00:10:52.919 --> 00:10:58.279 It's a picture a home with bad parents in it, 168 00:10:59.159 --> 00:11:04.200 and there's a child in the home. Mom says, hey, 169 00:11:04.399 --> 00:11:07.080 I'm gonna make you dinner tonight so you don't go hungry, 170 00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:10.360 and then mom just gets drunk and passes out on 171 00:11:10.360 --> 00:11:13.360 the on the couch and doesn't make dinner. And the 172 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:16.559 next night she tells that little boy, she tells that 173 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:19.200 little girl, I'm gonna make you dinner tonight so you 174 00:11:19.240 --> 00:11:21.759 don't go hungry, And she gets drunk and passes out 175 00:11:21.759 --> 00:11:25.240 on the couch and doesn't make dinner. And this happens 176 00:11:25.279 --> 00:11:29.000 over and over and over and over and over again. Well, 177 00:11:29.080 --> 00:11:33.159 at some point in time, that child is not going 178 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:37.000 to trust her anymore, not going to believe her anymore. 179 00:11:37.480 --> 00:11:42.399 When Mom says anything dinner, what else doesn't matter, the 180 00:11:42.440 --> 00:11:44.360 trust will be gone. 181 00:11:44.639 --> 00:11:44.960 Now. 182 00:11:45.720 --> 00:11:49.759 That child, out of its own self interest, out of 183 00:11:49.799 --> 00:11:55.799 his own self interest, should remove that trust because when 184 00:11:55.840 --> 00:11:58.519 mom says she'll make dinner, assume she's lying. You gotta 185 00:11:58.559 --> 00:12:01.159 go fend for yourself, get your own dinner. The child 186 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:06.320 should remove the trust for his own survival. But on 187 00:12:06.360 --> 00:12:11.919 a bigger level, this is a terrible situation, because a 188 00:12:12.080 --> 00:12:17.440 child should have a mother. When she says she'll make dinner, 189 00:12:18.600 --> 00:12:23.480 the child knows he'll get dinner. Exact same thing happens 190 00:12:23.480 --> 00:12:27.120 with citizens in their institutions. I want you to know 191 00:12:27.159 --> 00:12:28.799 that none of this is normal, and none of this 192 00:12:28.960 --> 00:12:34.799 is okay. You should have a medical establishment. You can trust, 193 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:38.080 you don't, and so you shouldn't trust them, but you don't. 194 00:12:39.039 --> 00:12:41.200 And that Look, we'll focus on medical because that's what 195 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:43.879 we were talking about, doctor Witch. Here, let me be 196 00:12:43.919 --> 00:12:47.600 honest with you about something in my own life, totally 197 00:12:47.600 --> 00:12:52.519 honest with you. Why do I talk so much about 198 00:12:53.120 --> 00:12:57.279 natural things now, natural solutions, naturalness. You've heard me rant 199 00:12:57.279 --> 00:13:03.919 about big pharma. You've heard me rant about the medical establishment. Why, well, 200 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:07.320 they have violated my trust and now I have to 201 00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:10.600 look elsewhere. Now do you want to know why? Do 202 00:13:10.639 --> 00:13:12.320 you want to know the real reason why? I mean, 203 00:13:12.320 --> 00:13:15.279 I've told you real reasons before, But why is it? 204 00:13:15.320 --> 00:13:17.200 What chalk is a great example. Why do I love 205 00:13:17.279 --> 00:13:21.039 chalk so much? Well, the way I look at Chok 206 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:24.960 Chok's natural herbal supplements. Obviously, the way I look at 207 00:13:25.039 --> 00:13:29.720 chalk is chalk keeps me away from the doctor. That 208 00:13:29.840 --> 00:13:32.759 is my goal. And you know what I hate that. 209 00:13:33.799 --> 00:13:38.399 I actually wish I had a medical establishment that I 210 00:13:38.480 --> 00:13:42.519 trusted for everything, a doctor I trusted so much. Every month, 211 00:13:42.639 --> 00:13:45.000 every two months, I go check in with the doc. Doc, 212 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:47.960 this is what's going on, this and that. But now 213 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:51.919 don't don't have any of that at all. I Well, 214 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:53.759 you know what I take. I take a male vitality 215 00:13:53.799 --> 00:13:56.960 stack from chalk every day. I take that not only 216 00:13:57.000 --> 00:13:59.919 because it makes me feel better, because I feel like 217 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:03.159 I'm preventing myself from ever having to go to the doctor. 218 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:05.759 I check in with the doctor's office when I want 219 00:14:05.759 --> 00:14:09.200 blood work done, and then not at all because I 220 00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:13.919 have taken my trust away and I don't celebrate that. 221 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:15.960 I do celebrate chalk, and I thank them for it, 222 00:14:16.279 --> 00:14:19.320 but that's not what I want. I would like to 223 00:14:19.360 --> 00:14:22.080 have chalk and a doctor. Now I just have chalk. 224 00:14:23.200 --> 00:14:23.600 Sucks. 225 00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:29.120 By the way, do try a stack from chalk. You 226 00:14:29.159 --> 00:14:32.759 will be amazed at how you feel. Choq dot com 227 00:14:32.759 --> 00:14:36.039 remember promo, Go Jesse, go try it for a few 228 00:14:36.039 --> 00:14:38.200 months and see how you feel. But that's not the 229 00:14:38.200 --> 00:14:42.279 point of our conversation here. The point is I want 230 00:14:42.360 --> 00:14:44.159 you to have that. I want me to have that. 231 00:14:44.399 --> 00:14:50.360 The FBI another great example. Look, you've got guys Cash, Betel, 232 00:14:50.440 --> 00:14:52.919 Dan Bong. You know people, you know people we've talked about, 233 00:14:52.919 --> 00:14:56.360 people we've celebrated. They're out there talking on the news 234 00:14:56.399 --> 00:14:59.360 and talking about this, and they want to do this 235 00:14:59.399 --> 00:15:02.440 and they want to accomplish that. And we're gonna well 236 00:15:02.799 --> 00:15:05.799 for instance, Dan Bongino went on Fox News this morning 237 00:15:05.799 --> 00:15:06.240 said this. 238 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:09.759 There was a room and we found stuff, a lot 239 00:15:09.799 --> 00:15:12.440 of stuff hidden room. I wouldn't call it hidden, but 240 00:15:13.039 --> 00:15:15.360 hidden from us at least and not mentioned to us. 241 00:15:15.759 --> 00:15:18.000 And a lot of it's from the Komi era. And 242 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:21.159 we are working our damn this right now to declassifying. 243 00:15:21.200 --> 00:15:23.279 Just so you know, because I get the public, I 244 00:15:23.320 --> 00:15:26.559 totally understand people saying we'll do it now. The process 245 00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:29.120 is not. All the information is ours to classify some 246 00:15:29.240 --> 00:15:32.679 as other intelligence agencies, it's not. We literally can't do it. 247 00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:35.000 Once that gets done and that gets out there and 248 00:15:35.039 --> 00:15:37.120 you read some of the stuff we found that, by 249 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:40.679 the way, was not processed through the normal procedure digitizing it, 250 00:15:40.720 --> 00:15:44.240 putting in FBI records. We found it in bags hiding 251 00:15:44.480 --> 00:15:46.840 under Jim call. Yeah, you're going to be stuff. 252 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:51.200 How can you trust an organization that does things like that? 253 00:15:53.000 --> 00:15:59.200 The Federal Bureau of Investigation troves of information that they 254 00:15:59.440 --> 00:16:03.240 socked the way in a room to hide it from 255 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:08.039 the new director and deputy director. How do you you 256 00:16:08.120 --> 00:16:11.600 can't trust an organization like that. It doesn't matter who's 257 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:14.279 in charge of it, who the new director is, who 258 00:16:14.320 --> 00:16:18.279 the new deputy director is to me, Frank, I think 259 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:21.279 they both have an impossible task. I've told Dan in 260 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:23.840 case you're wondering, I've told Dan that myself. But I 261 00:16:23.879 --> 00:16:26.000 don't think I'm just saying it to you. I've told 262 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:27.639 him I don't think he can do what he wants 263 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:30.559 to do, reform the FBI, fixed the FBI. I don't 264 00:16:30.559 --> 00:16:33.120 believe it can be done, and not only just because 265 00:16:33.159 --> 00:16:36.399 of the poison inside of the building. By the way, 266 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:38.480 why haven't the whistleblower has been brought back. That's a 267 00:16:38.480 --> 00:16:41.080 whole other story entirely, not just because of the poison 268 00:16:41.080 --> 00:16:43.919 inside of the building. I don't think you could do 269 00:16:43.960 --> 00:16:46.759 it because the public has already left. Remember was the 270 00:16:46.840 --> 00:16:48.639 last time we brought up a public poll. I don't 271 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:51.080 remember the last time it was about the public's view 272 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:54.159 of the FBI. You lost him. Now it wasn't obviously 273 00:16:54.240 --> 00:16:56.720 Cash and Dan. It lost them, but the FBI as 274 00:16:56.759 --> 00:17:01.960 an organization gone completely gone. Elections are another great example. 275 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:06.440 It's really really important for you and me to live 276 00:17:06.440 --> 00:17:09.920 in a country where you can trust elections, that they're honest, 277 00:17:10.519 --> 00:17:12.519 that they're on the up and up, that every vote 278 00:17:12.519 --> 00:17:18.400 will be counted. Twenty twenty that went away, And it 279 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:21.640 doesn't matter how many Democrats you send to the news 280 00:17:21.680 --> 00:17:24.079 to say it was the freest and fairest election ever. 281 00:17:24.279 --> 00:17:27.119 All that does now is cement in people's minds that 282 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:30.920 you did something dirty. That's all that does now. Now 283 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:34.839 that you've lost that trust, where are we puts us 284 00:17:34.839 --> 00:17:36.759 in a terrible place as a country, just like the 285 00:17:36.839 --> 00:17:38.759 kid whose mom didn't make dinner. All right, we're moving 286 00:17:38.799 --> 00:17:40.400 off for that. I won't talk about it anymore. I'm 287 00:17:40.440 --> 00:17:41.640 going to talk to Brandon Wikert. 288 00:17:42.559 --> 00:17:43.039 I want to know. 289 00:17:44.599 --> 00:17:48.079 Why Donald Trump is upset with Vladimir Putin now vocally 290 00:17:48.079 --> 00:17:50.799 he nor really doesn't do that blast away vocally. I 291 00:17:50.839 --> 00:17:53.480 want to know why Trump is upset with Benjamin Nett 292 00:17:53.480 --> 00:17:56.720 and Yahoo vocally said something today about it. We played 293 00:17:56.720 --> 00:18:01.119 it for you earlier. What's going on to Brandon next? 294 00:18:02.160 --> 00:18:05.640 It is the Jesse Kelly Show, and I want to 295 00:18:05.680 --> 00:18:08.920 know what's going on with this whole Putin Ukraine Roughshia 296 00:18:09.039 --> 00:18:13.079 stuff and why Trump is scolding Benjamin Nett and Yahoo. Basically, 297 00:18:13.160 --> 00:18:15.480 I want to know why we're hearing things like this 298 00:18:15.559 --> 00:18:16.000 every day. 299 00:18:16.079 --> 00:18:17.799 I can't tell you that, but I'll let you know 300 00:18:17.839 --> 00:18:20.079 in about two weeks, within two weeks, we're going to 301 00:18:20.119 --> 00:18:23.720 find out very soon, we're going to find out whether 302 00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:26.839 or not he's tapping us along or not, and if 303 00:18:26.839 --> 00:18:29.880 he is, we'll respond a little bit differently, but it'll 304 00:18:29.880 --> 00:18:31.400 take about a week and a half. Two weeks. 305 00:18:32.440 --> 00:18:35.720 He's talking about Putin and Ukraine and whatnot. So let's 306 00:18:35.720 --> 00:18:39.160 ask Brandon about that. Joining me now, Brandon Weikert, author 307 00:18:39.319 --> 00:18:43.000 of so many books national security expert, including his book 308 00:18:43.119 --> 00:18:46.319 Shadow War about Iran, which I really love. Brandon, Okay, 309 00:18:46.400 --> 00:18:51.480 let's start in Russia Ukraine. Obviously we all know Trump 310 00:18:51.480 --> 00:18:55.559 wants to end the whole thing. He's now vocally scolded 311 00:18:55.599 --> 00:18:58.000 Putin a couple of times. What's happening over there? 312 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:03.920 Well, I think everybody needs to remember, as fun as 313 00:19:03.960 --> 00:19:07.359 it would be to say Putin is a mustache twirling villain, 314 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:13.200 he is responding Putin is to an assassination attempt. Somebody 315 00:19:13.279 --> 00:19:18.079 tried to whack him. The Ukrainians are saying that, note 316 00:19:18.119 --> 00:19:22.759 it wasn't us, But I suspect what happened was somebody 317 00:19:22.759 --> 00:19:26.519 in our intel services thought they had a beat on 318 00:19:27.640 --> 00:19:31.880 Putin's helicopter. We know that our intel people have been 319 00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:35.680 helping since at least twenty twenty three serving as targeting 320 00:19:35.720 --> 00:19:39.319 analysts for the Ukrainians when they were firing these long 321 00:19:39.400 --> 00:19:43.240 range missiles into Russia. We were helping them target so 322 00:19:43.279 --> 00:19:46.319 that they'd be more precise. We also know that the 323 00:19:46.319 --> 00:19:49.319 intel community has for the last two years claimed they 324 00:19:49.359 --> 00:19:51.799 know where Putin is at all times and they can 325 00:19:51.839 --> 00:19:54.319 take him out whenever they want, if it ever came 326 00:19:54.359 --> 00:19:56.960 to that. Well, I think that this was not actually 327 00:19:57.079 --> 00:19:59.920 Ukraine they pulled the trigger, But I think this was 328 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:03.640 as an assassination attempt against Putin by a rogue element 329 00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:07.680 within our intelligence community. And I say that because Trump 330 00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:10.559 he came out on Monday, I think it was Monday 331 00:20:10.599 --> 00:20:14.200 or Tuesday, and he was scolding Putin as you as 332 00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:16.400 you noted. But then yesterday he came out and gave 333 00:20:16.400 --> 00:20:18.759 a brief statement in which he said, I was just 334 00:20:18.799 --> 00:20:22.119 told about an assassination attempt, and maybe that's why Putin 335 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:25.599 is behaving the way he has been. Well, in my opinion, 336 00:20:25.680 --> 00:20:29.000 why wasn't Trump, or my question is, why wasn't Trump 337 00:20:29.000 --> 00:20:32.599 briefed immediately about this potential assassination attempt? And I think 338 00:20:32.640 --> 00:20:35.759 that's to tell that there was a rogue element going 339 00:20:35.920 --> 00:20:37.960 you know, trying to manipulate things by getting rid of 340 00:20:38.039 --> 00:20:41.480 Putin in the middle of this a very important negotiation. 341 00:20:41.680 --> 00:20:44.680 They don't want negotiations, Jesse, they want war. 342 00:20:45.920 --> 00:20:49.960 Okay, So a couple big fat questions I have from 343 00:20:50.039 --> 00:20:55.759 that one. You said we were helping the Ukrainians with 344 00:20:55.799 --> 00:20:59.920 their long term targeting, including targets inside of Russian territory. 345 00:21:00.519 --> 00:21:03.599 Are we still doing that, that's the first question. 346 00:21:04.519 --> 00:21:08.519 Yeah, I would assume so, given the relationship that's been 347 00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:15.200 built up between our intelligence services and the Ukrainians, I 348 00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:19.319 know that the Ukrainians are not able to effectively. They 349 00:21:19.319 --> 00:21:21.759 have the weapons we gave them, the long range weapons, 350 00:21:21.759 --> 00:21:24.880 but they're not very good at these long range targeting, 351 00:21:25.279 --> 00:21:29.960 and the NATO intelligence services, including our intelligence services, have 352 00:21:30.039 --> 00:21:33.720 been acting as targeting analysts for them. So I would 353 00:21:33.759 --> 00:21:38.599 assume that's still going on. But I believe it's still 354 00:21:38.599 --> 00:21:40.640 going on. Yes, I know it was going on during 355 00:21:40.640 --> 00:21:41.799 the Biden regime though. 356 00:21:42.519 --> 00:21:46.240 Okay, Now that actually leads me to this question, how 357 00:21:46.240 --> 00:21:48.640 do you long range target these things in whatever way 358 00:21:48.680 --> 00:21:51.119 you're allowed to tell us? Why are they bad at 359 00:21:51.160 --> 00:21:53.720 it and we're good at it? What is this space satellites? 360 00:21:53.880 --> 00:21:55.960 People don't know how this stuff works. How's it working? 361 00:21:56.240 --> 00:22:01.240 It's mostly Our space surveillance capability is really I wrote 362 00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:04.279 a whole book on this, it's called Winning Space. Our 363 00:22:04.319 --> 00:22:07.759 space surveillance capability is light years if you're part in 364 00:22:07.799 --> 00:22:11.680 the pond, the dad joke is light years beyond what 365 00:22:12.519 --> 00:22:15.319 a country like Ukraine has. It's actually probably light years 366 00:22:15.359 --> 00:22:19.279 beyond what any other country except maybe China's catching up 367 00:22:19.279 --> 00:22:22.559 to us. Even Russia, which has an impressive space capability 368 00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:26.160 as well, it doesn't come close to our surveillance capacity. 369 00:22:27.079 --> 00:22:30.680 And so I believe that that's why we were being 370 00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:33.359 used for targeting assistance. 371 00:22:34.119 --> 00:22:37.599 Why is our surveillance capacity so much better than every 372 00:22:37.640 --> 00:22:40.680 other country? Does this just come down to money in volume? 373 00:22:40.759 --> 00:22:43.440 We have enough money to put more satellites up there 374 00:22:43.480 --> 00:22:44.880 than anyone else does. Is that what it is? 375 00:22:45.680 --> 00:22:47.400 That's part of it. In the middle there was a 376 00:22:47.480 --> 00:22:50.559 gap after the Cold War. The Russians were kind of 377 00:22:50.880 --> 00:22:53.079 cut off at their knees for a period of time, 378 00:22:53.880 --> 00:22:55.680 and we were kind of the only show in town 379 00:22:55.759 --> 00:22:57.680 when it came to space, and so that gave us 380 00:22:57.720 --> 00:22:59.960 a lot of ability to kind of get a lead 381 00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:03.240 on the rest of the world. Of course, as an aside, 382 00:23:03.359 --> 00:23:07.119 those surveillance systems. While they're essential for US, they're also 383 00:23:07.279 --> 00:23:10.240 very easy to take out with anti satellite weapons, which 384 00:23:10.279 --> 00:23:12.319 is what China and Russia have been developing for the 385 00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:16.480 last fifteen years, very effective capabilities to render US deaf, dumb, 386 00:23:16.559 --> 00:23:20.119 and blind in space. But until that happens, we still 387 00:23:20.160 --> 00:23:24.039 have the lead with these surveillance and communication capabilities. 388 00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:29.599 Okay, so when it comes to Russia Ukraine, why don't 389 00:23:29.640 --> 00:23:33.880 we just leave? Can we just leave? If that's what 390 00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:36.119 Donald Trump wants to do. I realize he's trying to 391 00:23:36.119 --> 00:23:38.240 brokerr a deal and be a peacemaker, and I actually 392 00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:40.559 applaud all that that's great. But if at some point 393 00:23:40.559 --> 00:23:42.880 in time he gets frustrated, Putin doesn't want to end it, 394 00:23:43.000 --> 00:23:46.079 Zelenski doesn't want to end it. Donald Trump is the president. 395 00:23:46.160 --> 00:23:49.880 Can he not say, hey, Cia, military, everybody pack up 396 00:23:49.880 --> 00:23:51.200 your things. We're going home. 397 00:23:51.960 --> 00:23:55.160 Well, so this is basically my inaugural piece at the 398 00:23:55.200 --> 00:23:58.279 American Conservative was published two days ago, and it was 399 00:23:58.359 --> 00:24:02.000 exactly about this. Donald Trump's going to walk away from Ukraine. 400 00:24:02.160 --> 00:24:06.400 And there's no doubt in my mind that whatever, whatever 401 00:24:06.640 --> 00:24:09.519