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<v Speaker 1>Hey everyone, and welcome to Sasquatch Theory. Tonight's guest is

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<v Speaker 1>Gail from Texas. Growing up around Lake Conroe and later

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<v Speaker 1>spending years near the Sabine River, Gail found himself in

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<v Speaker 1>areas that have carried strange stories and unexplained reports for generations.

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<v Speaker 1>At first, he dismissed most of it as wildlife hunters

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<v Speaker 1>or something ordinary in the woods, until experiences of his

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<v Speaker 1>own began to make him question what was really out there.

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<v Speaker 1>From the river bottoms and creek systems to remote timber

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<v Speaker 1>and family properties, Gail has collected encounters spanning decades. I

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<v Speaker 1>do want to say the audio quality is a little rough.

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<v Speaker 1>And Gail had me on speakerphone, and I told him

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<v Speaker 1>that speakerphone usually doesn't sound very good, but for some

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<v Speaker 1>reason he couldn't hear me very well without being on speakerphone.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's how it is, and we're just gonna roll

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<v Speaker 1>with it. Enjoy the channel, like the video, subscribe and

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a bigfoot encounter you would like to

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<v Speaker 1>share with me here on Sasquatch Theory, feel free to

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<v Speaker 1>get in touch with me sometime at Sasquatch Theory at

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<v Speaker 1>outlook dot com with all that being said, let's dive

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<v Speaker 1>into our next Bigfoot report from the state of Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, today on the Sasquatch Theory podcast, we have

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<v Speaker 1>Gail from the state of Texas. Gail, how are you

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<v Speaker 1>doing today?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing good, Maya.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great to hear. Gail. If you would tell me

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about yourself, where you're from, and your

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<v Speaker 1>experiences from the very beginning, please.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. I've been in Texas my whole life, lived

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<v Speaker 2>out of state a few times with work doing different things,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was basically born and raised in Texas. I

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<v Speaker 2>grew up when I was younger in Southeast Texas, and

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<v Speaker 2>then when I was probably in the seventh after the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the seventh grade, I moved to northeast Texas

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<v Speaker 2>up closer to the you know, the Louisiana Texas line.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and very good. And what was the first experience

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<v Speaker 1>that you've ever had and if you could walk me

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<v Speaker 1>through it?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, The first experience that I ever really had

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<v Speaker 2>was me and my dad used to go fishing on

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<v Speaker 2>Lake Conroe, which is outside of Euston, and we'd go

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<v Speaker 2>almost every weekend, and then one weekend we went into

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<v Speaker 2>our little gas station store there or whatever, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was probably in the fifth grade, sixth grade, something like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and an old man came in the store and said

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<v Speaker 2>that a bigfoot had gotten one of his hogs, came

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<v Speaker 2>into the pen, got in one of his hogs, and

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<v Speaker 2>took off with it. And he was in there telling

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<v Speaker 2>everybody that worked in the store about it, and he

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to get people to go down there with him.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, I got the foot prince in the sand.

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<v Speaker 2>I can show you where it walked through. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>real deal. And I was excited, and I was wanting

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<v Speaker 2>my dad to go down there, and Dad's like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going fishing. We don't have time for that right now.

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<v Speaker 2>And anyway, the guy was still going on about the

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<v Speaker 2>bigfoot when me and my dad left and went fishing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I really wanted to go down there and see

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<v Speaker 2>what the guy wanted to show everybody, but we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>went fishing. And years later this would come into play

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<v Speaker 2>because my dad had told me as I was growing up,

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<v Speaker 2>there's nothing to be scared of in the woods. Everything

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<v Speaker 2>in the woods is scared of you. You don't need

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<v Speaker 2>to be scared of anything, have any fear of anything

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<v Speaker 2>in the woods. And then I didn't know it until

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<v Speaker 2>I was in my late twenties. But my dad had

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<v Speaker 2>went fishing on like Conrod one evening at he launched

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<v Speaker 2>out of a public boat ramp and he said he

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<v Speaker 2>was in this cove and he heard something off in

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<v Speaker 2>the distance coming through the woods. It's all pine trees

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<v Speaker 2>down there around like Conrod, and he was on a

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<v Speaker 2>place called Canny Creek fishing and he said it was

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<v Speaker 2>coming through the woods, and the closer guy he realized

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<v Speaker 2>it was just like angry, you know, making growling sounds,

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<v Speaker 2>breaking pine saplings and coming towards the edge of the

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<v Speaker 2>water towards where he was fishing, and he was like,

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<v Speaker 2>it was getting dark, and he kind of got unnerved

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<v Speaker 2>and he took and went back to the boat ramp

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<v Speaker 2>and loaded up the boat because where he was at

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't that far from the boat up. But my dad

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<v Speaker 2>grew up hunting fishing, and grew up in the country

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<v Speaker 2>in the you know, out in the middle of nowhere,

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<v Speaker 2>and he wasn't really scared of anything. But he said

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<v Speaker 2>that that actually he knew that was something different for sure,

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<v Speaker 2>and he loaded up his boat. Well, come to find out,

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<v Speaker 2>that that had that when my dad had that happen

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<v Speaker 2>on the lake. That was like two weeks before the

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<v Speaker 2>old man came into the grocery, the gas station, grocery

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<v Speaker 2>store deal there talking about the Bigfoot. So I asked Dad,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, why didn't you tell me? He was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I simply didn't want you scared to be out in

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<v Speaker 2>the woods. I didn't want it to you know, that's

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<v Speaker 2>with your mind. I wanted you to grow up to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to go out in the wood, to not

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<v Speaker 2>be scared of anything. And that was, you know, when

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<v Speaker 2>I was a kid. But he didn't tell me about

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<v Speaker 2>what happened to him on the lake until I was,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in my late twenties. He kept it from

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<v Speaker 2>me all those years simply because he didn't want me

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<v Speaker 2>to be scared of going in the woods. So after

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<v Speaker 2>I was in the seventh grade, like going on in

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<v Speaker 2>the eighth grade, we moved up to northeast Texas and

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<v Speaker 2>we moved to a town and a small town in

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<v Speaker 2>East Texas, not far from the Sabine River and the creek.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a creek about a half a mile from

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<v Speaker 2>our house, and that creek actually runs into the Sabine river.

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<v Speaker 2>But so I was probably thirteen fourteen something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>From the time we moved up there, when I got

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<v Speaker 2>out of school or during the summer, I was in

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<v Speaker 2>that creek bottom. I mean every day, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>times until after dark. And the thing is, I've never

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<v Speaker 2>carried a flashlight with me. I never really I'd go

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<v Speaker 2>into the woods and i'd be coming out after dark.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you know, it is even on a dark night,

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<v Speaker 2>your eyes become adjusted, you can see. And I've never

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<v Speaker 2>really had a flashlight with me. But I'd be down

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<v Speaker 2>on the creek fishing or squirrel hunting or deer hunting

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever. And there was a lot of times I

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<v Speaker 2>would be coming out of the creek bottom and I

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<v Speaker 2>could hear, you know, footsteps like paralleling me as I

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<v Speaker 2>was leaving the woods head back on. It would it

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<v Speaker 2>would be you know, sometimes I would walk, it would walk,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd stop, it, it would stop. Other times I would hear

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<v Speaker 2>deer in the woods. You know, I don't deer would

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<v Speaker 2>sound like they sometimes they would blow or snore, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>from hearing me. But those other times, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I would just get creepy feeling. Sometimes I'd get scared

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<v Speaker 2>and I like a dead tree off the ground or

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<v Speaker 2>something and slam it into another tree to let it.

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<v Speaker 2>No way, I'm a human, you know, you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to mess with me. It was just like this didn't

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<v Speaker 2>sound like a deer. And that went on for a while,

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<v Speaker 2>and then there were a lot of times I would

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<v Speaker 2>be outside after dark, and I would hear wood knocks,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, down back towards the creek, and I always

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<v Speaker 2>I would hear them a lot. I mean a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>and I always put it off in my head is like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>somebody's down there on you know, private land building a

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<v Speaker 2>deer stand, so they don't want to get caught, so

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<v Speaker 2>they're down there doing it at night. You know. I

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<v Speaker 2>put the wood knocks off as to somebody building a

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<v Speaker 2>deer stand at night. And I guess when I was

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<v Speaker 2>probably fourteen or so, me and somebodies were going to

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<v Speaker 2>go fishing down on the creek behind the dam of

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<v Speaker 2>this lake, and there's we had a trail that went

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<v Speaker 2>all the way back there, and we were going down

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<v Speaker 2>the trail and we got probably two hundred yards maybe

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifty yards from the dam, and I

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<v Speaker 2>heard something weird like people arguing, and it sounded like

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<v Speaker 2>Russians or Japanese or something it was, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>loud and they were definitely arguing with each other, and

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<v Speaker 2>the guys that I had with me, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I put my hand up for everybody to stop.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to stop. And then we were listening and

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<v Speaker 2>one guy that was with us, he started laughing because

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<v Speaker 2>of the organ they were doing or what it sounded weird,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was I put my finger up over my

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<v Speaker 2>mouth to be quiet, and he kept laughing. I finally

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<v Speaker 2>just grabbed him and covered his mouth, and I started

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<v Speaker 2>pointing back down the trail that went back towards my house,

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody kind of turned around while I started going

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<v Speaker 2>the other way. I got out in front of everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>and when I got up in a probably a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of hundred yards from the road that that I lived

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<v Speaker 2>off of, I just took off running and everybody was running.

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<v Speaker 2>We finally got back to my house and I told

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<v Speaker 2>my dad. I was like, Dad, there's Russians or Japanese

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<v Speaker 2>behind the damn of the lake and they were arguing

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<v Speaker 2>with each other, and that was a weird deal. And

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't really think too much about it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I let my dad know. And time

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<v Speaker 2>went on, and then it was like I continually kept

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<v Speaker 2>hearing wood knocks at night, and then h The first

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<v Speaker 2>time I killed my first decent buck was not far

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<v Speaker 2>from where we heard that you know, Russian Japanese stuff

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<v Speaker 2>which I later found out was called samurai chatter or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But but I shot the deer and then I found it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was excited. I just started yelling out, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>hooping and hollering, yelling out top my lungs. And then

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<v Speaker 2>as I was getting the deer, it got dark and

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<v Speaker 2>I started hearing, you know, like sticks breaking around me

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<v Speaker 2>and limbs breaking around me. As I was getting the deer,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was what the heck? And at first I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just deer, you know, And then I kept going on.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like nine stop, and it kept getting closer

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<v Speaker 2>and louder, and I finally just got to the point

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<v Speaker 2>where it scared me so bad that I just shot

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<v Speaker 2>my rifle into the ground. And after I got the

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<v Speaker 2>deer gutted, I had to drag it back to the

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<v Speaker 2>road that we lived off of. So I drug it

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<v Speaker 2>back to the road. But the whole time I was

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<v Speaker 2>dragging the deer back towards the road. It was like

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<v Speaker 2>I could hear stuff breaking around me all the way back.

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<v Speaker 2>And then as I got older, I'm trying to remember,

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<v Speaker 2>I still heard wooden knocks, you know, all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Until I eventually left home. I heard wooden knocks down

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<v Speaker 2>there in the creek bottom. And after I left hunting,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I started working and I went to college,

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<v Speaker 2>junior college for a couple of years, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>ended up getting a job in Arkansas, working at a

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<v Speaker 2>steel mill as an electricians apprentice. And we lived in

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<v Speaker 2>a town called Oceola, which is south of Blible and

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<v Speaker 2>it's on the Mississippi River bottom. And me and a

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<v Speaker 2>buddy we got off work one evening and we were

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<v Speaker 2>just cruising around drinking beer, hanging out. And we went

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<v Speaker 2>down in this bean bill and it got dark and

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<v Speaker 2>we were out there just bs and hanging out. And

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<v Speaker 2>after dark, we were sitting in this truck listening to radio,

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<v Speaker 2>talking everything, and then something hit the truck. It felt

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<v Speaker 2>like something ran into the truck, hit the truck hard,

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<v Speaker 2>and then started shaking the truck, I mean shaking it hard.

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<v Speaker 2>And we were sitting there and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>truck and looked, looked, ran around the bike, didn't see anything,

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<v Speaker 2>looked around. It was we were one hundred yards from

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<v Speaker 2>the woodline on the Mississippi River in that being filled,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, it was just a weird thing that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't know what it was or how it got to

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<v Speaker 2>how it got to the woodline that fast, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was gone. And then didn't didn't think anything about Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 2>at that time. Really, I just thought, you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have Bigfoot on my mind. And then I came

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<v Speaker 2>and then I ended up getting a divorce and I

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<v Speaker 2>I did not have Bigfoot on my radar at all.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when I was in North Texas, I was

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<v Speaker 2>of mine and we drove to his house. He lived

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<v Speaker 2>off this little canny road beside a creek, and we

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<v Speaker 2>like maybe I ran over the copperhead because it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>when I was leaving, I saw this big dead copperhead

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<v Speaker 2>in the road and I stopped it. It was dark,

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<v Speaker 2>it was at night time, and I saw it and

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<v Speaker 2>I had my I pulled my truck up there, had

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<v Speaker 2>the headlights on it, and I got out of the

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure that the snake was dead, and I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to get its skin. And I reached down and

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<v Speaker 2>picked it up by the tail, and my son had

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<v Speaker 2>gotten out on the passenger side. And when I picked

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<v Speaker 2>a snake up by the tail, there was like a

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<v Speaker 2>loud roar right beside my truck. Was kind of loud,

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<v Speaker 2>but there was like a loud roar right beside my truck.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was focused on being sure the snake was

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<v Speaker 2>completely dead. And then my son ran around behind me

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<v Speaker 2>and ran and jumped in on the driver's side of

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<v Speaker 2>the truck, and I didn't think too much about it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I got the snake and put it in the

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<v Speaker 2>back of the truck and my son was in the

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<v Speaker 2>was that that yelled? And I was like, ye ain't

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<v Speaker 2>fooling me, boy, I thought it was him and he

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<v Speaker 2>was like, no, that it wasn't me. It wasn't me.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, that's crazy, and he's like yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So that happened. And then maybe a couple of years later,

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<v Speaker 2>we had UH something going on, and I had uh

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<v Speaker 2>a barbecue smoke or going and I'd had everything set

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<v Speaker 2>up word barring the rest of the night. So I

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<v Speaker 2>came in and went to bed, and then maybe three

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock in the morning or so, something woke me up,

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<v Speaker 2>and I sat up in bed, and I was sitting

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<v Speaker 2>there thinking what I wonder what something woke me up?

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<v Speaker 2>What woke me up? And then all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 2>I heard a scream that you cannot explain. It started

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<v Speaker 2>out it sounded like a bull bellowing, and then it

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<v Speaker 2>went to like a human screaming, and then it tapered

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<v Speaker 2>off at the end into this loud, monstrous roar, like

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<v Speaker 2>a line or something I mean, and from the beginning

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<v Speaker 2>to the end of this scream, I could feel it

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<v Speaker 2>in my body, and it was probably fifteen twenty feet

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<v Speaker 2>from my back porch from the way it sounded, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was so loud that it was vibrating my body

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<v Speaker 2>inside the house. And I jumped out of bed and

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<v Speaker 2>I ran and looked out the back the back door.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't turn on the light. I didn't turn on

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<v Speaker 2>my porch light because it was like kind of half

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<v Speaker 2>lit from the moon. There was some light outside even

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<v Speaker 2>though it was light time, and I didn't want it

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<v Speaker 2>to run. I wanted to see it. I didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to I was brady for turn on the light. It

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<v Speaker 2>would scare it off. So I opened the back door,

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<v Speaker 2>and when I did, I could hear it running down

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<v Speaker 2>across my little pasture there towards my little creek. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I heard it like a I heard it actually

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<v Speaker 2>jump the creek. And then I went down there the

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<v Speaker 2>next day, you know, and kind of looked around. I

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<v Speaker 2>saw an impression or something on the floor bank, but

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't make it out to be a definitive footprint,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And that that was all at my house

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<v Speaker 2>in North Texas. But over the years, I started, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>let me think. Oh, I had a cousin he went

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<v Speaker 2>and talked in a long time and he wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>go bear hunting in Alaska. So I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that'd be that'd be cool. So we went to Prince

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<v Speaker 2>of Wales Island, and I think we were there a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit too early. You know, they hadn't come out

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<v Speaker 2>of hibernation give we We saw a couple of small

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<v Speaker 2>bears or something, but I know one thing, and we

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<v Speaker 2>went to this place that had these totem poles, and

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<v Speaker 2>all those totem poles had some kind of bigfoot looking

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<v Speaker 2>tin carved on them. I mean they had real animals,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you could tell ravens, fish, wolves, bears, but

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<v Speaker 2>they definitely had a you know, a while man looking

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<v Speaker 2>head carved on all of them did. And these were

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<v Speaker 2>all old totem poles. But while we were there, we

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<v Speaker 2>went into a gift shop or something that was a

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<v Speaker 2>lady she probably was a transplant, but I asked her,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, are there any bigfoots on this island? And

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<v Speaker 2>she just kind of laughed and said, not that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>aware of. But then years later I saw something on

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<v Speaker 2>TV about where they called that Ape Island or something,

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<v Speaker 2>because they found these trees that were actually stuck in

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<v Speaker 2>the ground with the roof walls sticking up in the air,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have any They don't know all they were done.

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<v Speaker 2>You know a show about bigfoot and it was on

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<v Speaker 2>Prince of Wales Island, the island that I was seeing

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<v Speaker 2>about where we saw the statues, I mean the totem

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<v Speaker 2>poles that had the They definitely have bigfoot faces carved

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<v Speaker 2>on their totem poles. They these these totem poles were old,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's where that was at. But I'm just trying

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<v Speaker 2>to relay the fact that, you know, bigfoots were on

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<v Speaker 2>that island. And as soon as I saw those faces,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, that's not a human face that those Indians

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<v Speaker 2>were trying to you know, let people know that face

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<v Speaker 2>on that totem pole is a big foot face.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, for sure. They definitely have all the animals

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<v Speaker 1>that live in the area. And then you see this

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<v Speaker 1>hairy man, wild man looking creature on the totem pole.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you do you feel like the sasquatch followed

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<v Speaker 1>you around from place to place. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you ever heard of people being marked or tagged by

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<v Speaker 1>these creatures. What are your thoughts about that or do

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<v Speaker 1>you just think it was a coincidence that they happen

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<v Speaker 1>to be in other areas as well?

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<v Speaker 2>Now it it's not a coincidence. Gonna go. My son

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<v Speaker 2>says that there's something about me that attracts them. Because

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<v Speaker 2>I'll get into this later, but he he lives in

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<v Speaker 2>East Texas now, and uh, he doesn't live very far

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<v Speaker 2>from the Sabine River. But when whenever I go down

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<v Speaker 2>there to visiting, we definitely get a lot of activity.

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<v Speaker 2>He he thinks that I somehow, you know, attract them

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<v Speaker 2>or have have something going where. It's like he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have very He's had a lot of stuff going on,

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<v Speaker 2>but he said, when I'm there, definitely the level picks up,

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<v Speaker 2>the level of activity picks up. But they're not They're

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<v Speaker 2>not following us around, Miguel. They're everywhere. That's that's all

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<v Speaker 2>it is to it. They're simply everywhere. They are everywhere

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<v Speaker 2>there is water all across the United States, they are.

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<v Speaker 2>They're everywhere. And I mean, if you're not in tune

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<v Speaker 2>to what they do, you could, you know, completely ignore

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<v Speaker 2>things happening all around you and not even realize what

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<v Speaker 2>it is. But once you start looking into the subject

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<v Speaker 2>and realize what they do, you know, the wooden knocks,

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<v Speaker 2>the tree breaking, the whistles, the whooping, they imitating other

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<v Speaker 2>animals and everything, and then then you realize they're there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, people just don't pay attention to that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, They're all over the place. I feel like they

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<v Speaker 1>choose to interact with certain people for some reason. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure if it's a smell of pheromone that we

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<v Speaker 1>put off a vibe of frequency, but they definitely do

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<v Speaker 1>interact with certain people and for some reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they you know, I've had a lot of stuff happen,

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<v Speaker 2>but they they definitely are in probably every state in

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<v Speaker 2>the United in the United States for sure, maybe except

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<v Speaker 2>for a way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and what else happened to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I've had things happened. I've had little things happen

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<v Speaker 2>in several different states, like the deal in Arkansas's was

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<v Speaker 2>in ocl of the truck shaking deal. And then one

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<v Speaker 2>time my daughter was she went to college in Florida,

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<v Speaker 2>and we were going to visit her and we were

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<v Speaker 2>going down the interstate and I saw some deer on

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<v Speaker 2>the side of the road and all the interstates over there,

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<v Speaker 2>they have these big high fences to I guess, keep

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<v Speaker 2>deer off the highway, but they're like really high fences

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<v Speaker 2>along the interstates going all through Florida. But I saw

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<v Speaker 2>some deer standing beside, you know, feeding in the grass

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<v Speaker 2>beside the interstate, and I looked at the headlights were

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<v Speaker 2>shinting up ahead, and I looked and I saw two

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<v Speaker 2>big glowing eyes space kind of far apart, and I knew.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew instantly. I was like that that's not anything

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<v Speaker 2>but a bigfoot. There's nothing that has eyes space that

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<v Speaker 2>far apart, that are that big, you know. And as

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<v Speaker 2>we got closer to it, it duck down, but I

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<v Speaker 2>could kind of see like the outline of the head

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<v Speaker 2>as it duck down, and he was in he was

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<v Speaker 2>in a little ditch by a covert or a drain,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was watching those deer right there beside the interstate.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we were coming back from Florida, and that

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<v Speaker 2>was just probably just as my daughter is enrolled, so

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<v Speaker 2>it was probably the fall. I don't remember what year.

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<v Speaker 2>It was, probably twenty seventeen or eighteen, but we were

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<v Speaker 2>coming through Mississippi and I needed to use a restaurroom.

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<v Speaker 2>So I saw a little road that turned out to

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<v Speaker 2>the side, and I pulled up in that road and

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<v Speaker 2>I got out and closed the door and went to

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<v Speaker 2>the back of the car. And as soon as I

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<v Speaker 2>closed that door, I heard a wook like a hundred

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<v Speaker 2>yards south of me. And then after that whoo on

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<v Speaker 2>the south side of me, on the other side of

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<v Speaker 2>the road up north, probably two hundred and fifty three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred yards away, those of wood not And that was

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<v Speaker 2>just some I just randomly stopped in the middle of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 2>And this was probably two or three o'clock in the morning,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, probably thirty forty miles south of Hattiesburg something

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<v Speaker 2>like that, but not far from a from a little

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<v Speaker 2>creek there. But I think that they're anywhere in every

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<v Speaker 2>that there's water, if there's a creek or a river

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, they're they're there everywhere, even you know, even

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<v Speaker 2>in you know, Arizona, New Mexico, places at desert, if

419
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:17.800
<v Speaker 2>there's water available, I think they lived there.

420
00:35:18.840 --> 00:35:23.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would agree with that. And why do you

421
00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:25.920
<v Speaker 1>think the creature came up to the truck and was

422
00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:29.320
<v Speaker 1>shaking it and it hit your truck? What do you

423
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:31.679
<v Speaker 1>think it's intentions where you're talking about.

424
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:35.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when we were in Arkansas all that time, I

425
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:38.960
<v Speaker 2>think that it because back then we had uh this

426
00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:47.599
<v Speaker 2>is like in the late eighties. Yeah, late eighties, and

427
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:56.000
<v Speaker 2>the stereo had had uh, like an amplifier and base,

428
00:35:56.199 --> 00:36:01.199
<v Speaker 2>so it had like a thumping to it. The base

429
00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:04.119
<v Speaker 2>back then would have you know, you could you could

430
00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:07.920
<v Speaker 2>actually fill the base. Even with the radio turned down,

431
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:12.719
<v Speaker 2>you could fill the base would vibrate the truck. And

432
00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:15.119
<v Speaker 2>even though we had it turned down low, I think

433
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:19.360
<v Speaker 2>that the base vibrating. I think it felt that base

434
00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:25.079
<v Speaker 2>and it irritated or aggravated it or something. It felt

435
00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:28.360
<v Speaker 2>that base something in the radio and it you know,

436
00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:32.760
<v Speaker 2>that sound was irritating it, and it ran up there

437
00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:34.960
<v Speaker 2>and hit the truck and then started shaking it.

438
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:41.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a very interesting theory, and it possibly could be.

439
00:36:41.719 --> 00:36:45.639
<v Speaker 1>I could see how the base would upset this creature.

440
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:48.119
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, they'll definitely let you know if they're upset.

441
00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, we were one hundred yards from the

442
00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:57.280
<v Speaker 2>tree line and we were in a bean filled in

443
00:36:57.400 --> 00:37:04.880
<v Speaker 2>the Mississippi River bottom. But it was probably another few

444
00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:09.599
<v Speaker 2>hundred yards from that tree line to the river to

445
00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:13.119
<v Speaker 2>the actual river. There's like a big where we were at.

446
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:16.440
<v Speaker 2>There's like a big levee on the on the river

447
00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:19.960
<v Speaker 2>where the tree lines at, and that there have been

448
00:37:20.079 --> 00:37:24.159
<v Speaker 2>other sidings. I've looked it up. There have been other

449
00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:28.400
<v Speaker 2>sidings right there on the river, right where we were at.

450
00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:36.079
<v Speaker 2>Therefore that I know of. And as what I don't

451
00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:40.920
<v Speaker 2>think people understand is that you see the sidings, and

452
00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:44.880
<v Speaker 2>that's just the people that have reported them. A lot

453
00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:47.559
<v Speaker 2>of people see things, have things happen, they don't ever

454
00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:48.440
<v Speaker 2>report it, you know.

455
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it really does seem like these things follow the waterways.

456
00:37:56.800 --> 00:38:00.679
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned that creek poured into the Sabine River, and

457
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:03.760
<v Speaker 1>I think they're going from the river falling falling the

458
00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:05.159
<v Speaker 1>creek to where you were at.

459
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they well, they lived there. They lived, They lived

460
00:38:11.400 --> 00:38:13.920
<v Speaker 2>on that creek for sure. I mean a lot of

461
00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:16.960
<v Speaker 2>times I would be down there and I would smell,

462
00:38:18.039 --> 00:38:28.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, weird smells, and I heard wood knocks all

463
00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:33.519
<v Speaker 2>the time. I mean all the time, from the time

464
00:38:33.960 --> 00:38:36.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, I was in my teens, still left home.

465
00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:39.360
<v Speaker 2>I would hear wooden knocks at night in the woods.

466
00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:42.920
<v Speaker 2>I could just hearing down there knocking. I don't know

467
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:45.960
<v Speaker 2>why they were knocking. The wool was going on, but

468
00:38:47.679 --> 00:38:49.960
<v Speaker 2>I heard them. I heard wood knocks my whole life,

469
00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:51.679
<v Speaker 2>just didn't realize what they were.

470
00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:56.880
<v Speaker 1>And what do you think the wooden knocks mean?

471
00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:07.480
<v Speaker 2>Just I don't I know they're trying to tell each other.

472
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:10.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they're I think they I think

473
00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:13.079
<v Speaker 2>they can communicate a lot with what the wooden knocks

474
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:19.239
<v Speaker 2>or what the wooden knocks communicate, you know, whether they're

475
00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:31.920
<v Speaker 2>location or maybe they're hunting, you know, and letting each

476
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:35.760
<v Speaker 2>other know where they're at, or they can do something

477
00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:37.840
<v Speaker 2>with the wooden knock to let them know which way

478
00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:42.039
<v Speaker 2>that whatever they're the game they're after is going or whatever.

479
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:44.639
<v Speaker 2>I mean, what do you think they're doing.

480
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:49.079
<v Speaker 1>I think they're definitely communicating and possibly warning each other

481
00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:55.280
<v Speaker 1>that there's people in the area. But also they're using

482
00:39:55.320 --> 00:39:58.559
<v Speaker 1>a form of Morse code. And I've heard it before

483
00:39:58.599 --> 00:40:00.880
<v Speaker 1>where it sounds like somebody's built than a cabin down

484
00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:04.159
<v Speaker 1>in the woods, like around midnight, and I kind of

485
00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:07.159
<v Speaker 1>thought the same, like there's got to be trespassers out

486
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:11.679
<v Speaker 1>there working on something, but it definitely sounded like knocks,

487
00:40:11.760 --> 00:40:13.599
<v Speaker 1>but like they're hammering something.

488
00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:20.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm and everything that I've ever dealt with. I mean,

489
00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:24.639
<v Speaker 2>I've heard some weird long howls. It sounded like a big,

490
00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:30.400
<v Speaker 2>giant wolf or something. But I've never I've never really

491
00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:36.079
<v Speaker 2>seen anything that you know, led me to think that

492
00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:39.840
<v Speaker 2>I was dealing with the wear a wolf or whatever.

493
00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:43.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean, people are calling them dog men now, I guess,

494
00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:50.599
<v Speaker 2>but not not too much with that, but definitely the

495
00:40:50.639 --> 00:41:02.400
<v Speaker 2>bigfoot thing. I mean years later. Uh, even here where

496
00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:08.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm at in North Texas, I've got a little less

497
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:13.000
<v Speaker 2>than twenty acres, but you know, me and my wife

498
00:41:13.079 --> 00:41:17.840
<v Speaker 2>would go walking around a property and I had a

499
00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:22.599
<v Speaker 2>little trail mode and we'd go and one evening we

500
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:25.920
<v Speaker 2>were walking the trail and the dogs were with us,

501
00:41:26.039 --> 00:41:30.719
<v Speaker 2>following us. They would run around with us. And I

502
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:43.880
<v Speaker 2>had a blue tick hound and Mountain Curve and one

503
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:47.400
<v Speaker 2>of my blue ticks puppies that had a kid in

504
00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:51.719
<v Speaker 2>it or something. And they ran out in front of

505
00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:53.920
<v Speaker 2>us and they ran I've got a little dry creek

506
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:56.400
<v Speaker 2>that once see the property, and they ran into the

507
00:41:56.400 --> 00:42:00.559
<v Speaker 2>woods ahead of us, and then all of a sudden,

508
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:07.679
<v Speaker 2>they came running out of the woods like doing uh,

509
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:13.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, a weird aggressive bark, like like they were scared.

510
00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:17.800
<v Speaker 2>It I mean, it was. It was crazy the way

511
00:42:17.840 --> 00:42:23.239
<v Speaker 2>they were acting. They were scared, but they were you know,

512
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:25.679
<v Speaker 2>all the hair on their back was raised and they

513
00:42:26.440 --> 00:42:30.960
<v Speaker 2>they were they did they wanted to let us know

514
00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:33.639
<v Speaker 2>that there was something there, but they were scared to

515
00:42:33.679 --> 00:42:36.920
<v Speaker 2>go after it. And my blue tick was normally pretty

516
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:41.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, she would go after anything, but they would

517
00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:44.199
<v Speaker 2>not go in there. They came back and got beside

518
00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:47.840
<v Speaker 2>us and continued to bark. So we walked over there

519
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:54.920
<v Speaker 2>towards the creek and I heard some like footsteps. Great,

520
00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:57.760
<v Speaker 2>there's some dead trees and stuff down in the creek.

521
00:42:57.880 --> 00:43:03.159
<v Speaker 2>I heard like limbs break or something, and I told

522
00:43:03.199 --> 00:43:06.960
<v Speaker 2>my wife, I was like, just let's just hold on

523
00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:11.599
<v Speaker 2>here a minute. Somethings like walking in the creek. And

524
00:43:11.639 --> 00:43:17.800
<v Speaker 2>then the dogs like got back behind us towards the pasture,

525
00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:21.760
<v Speaker 2>and then me and her were standing there listening, and

526
00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:33.360
<v Speaker 2>then there was a loud growl like, uh, I don't

527
00:43:33.519 --> 00:43:35.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how to describe it. Really, it was

528
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:43.119
<v Speaker 2>just a loud growl, just like and as soon as

529
00:43:43.199 --> 00:43:47.679
<v Speaker 2>it did that, it started snapping its teeth together really fast,

530
00:43:48.320 --> 00:43:52.280
<v Speaker 2>like you could hear the actual teeth snapping together check,

531
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:56.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, like it was snapping its teeth at us.

532
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:03.360
<v Speaker 2>My wife she was she was like, let's get out

533
00:44:03.360 --> 00:44:05.480
<v Speaker 2>of here. She got up beside me and she was like,

534
00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:08.239
<v Speaker 2>let's get out of here. And the dogs didn't want

535
00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:09.199
<v Speaker 2>anything to do with it.

536
00:44:14.559 --> 00:44:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it seems like the dogs knew they were in

537
00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:18.079
<v Speaker 1>the area and they were warning you.

538
00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and this this was in the evening before dark.

539
00:44:23.079 --> 00:44:26.559
<v Speaker 2>This is like right at evening in town.

540
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:31.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Did you ever run into the guy that was

541
00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:34.960
<v Speaker 1>at the grocery store of the gas station that said

542
00:44:35.079 --> 00:44:38.480
<v Speaker 1>there was a big foot that got into the hogpen?

543
00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:45.719
<v Speaker 2>Did I ever know? I was no, I was a

544
00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:46.400
<v Speaker 2>little kid.

545
00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:48.400
<v Speaker 1>No, okay, I wasn't sure if you ever saw him

546
00:44:48.400 --> 00:44:49.079
<v Speaker 1>a gun later on?

547
00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:52.679
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, I was a little kid. This is

548
00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:57.039
<v Speaker 2>on Lake Conroe where the guy came into the gas station.

549
00:44:58.559 --> 00:45:03.000
<v Speaker 2>And then a couple a couple of years after that,

550
00:45:03.119 --> 00:45:11.079
<v Speaker 2>we moved up closer to Longview in northeast Texas, but

551
00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:13.960
<v Speaker 2>not that far from the Sabine River. The time we

552
00:45:13.960 --> 00:45:16.840
<v Speaker 2>were in was like right by the river, and the

553
00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:20.159
<v Speaker 2>creek that I lived on, not lived on, but was

554
00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:26.519
<v Speaker 2>right by the house actually ran into the river, probably

555
00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:30.760
<v Speaker 2>fifteen miles away. It ran into the river. Yeah, we

556
00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:35.760
<v Speaker 2>were probably fifteen miles from the river, and that was

557
00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:40.360
<v Speaker 2>the house where I grew up where we heard the

558
00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:44.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, the samurai chatter behind the dam, and I

559
00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:47.719
<v Speaker 2>had them surrounding me when I killed the deer that time.

560
00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:53.159
<v Speaker 2>And then I was also every time I went in

561
00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:55.880
<v Speaker 2>the woods and would come out after dark, I would

562
00:45:55.880 --> 00:46:00.480
<v Speaker 2>get paralleled out of the woods. I mean it happened

563
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:04.679
<v Speaker 2>all the time. And I was in the woods every

564
00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:07.840
<v Speaker 2>day after school during the summer out of school.

565
00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:09.639
<v Speaker 1>It just happened a lot.

566
00:46:11.719 --> 00:46:15.840
<v Speaker 2>But I really wouldn't thinking about Bigfoot, you know.

567
00:46:18.000 --> 00:46:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and after all these experiences, what have you concluded

568
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:24.639
<v Speaker 1>about these creatures? And what do you think they are?

569
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:37.519
<v Speaker 2>Uh? I know what they are there. There are people,

570
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:42.280
<v Speaker 2>Miguel there, there's some kind of big, well hairy people.

571
00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Did you ever experience anything paranormal, supernatural down there,

572
00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:56.880
<v Speaker 1>anything that you can't describe? Any strange lights anything like that.

573
00:46:59.159 --> 00:47:06.480
<v Speaker 2>No, Now, I mean not involved in Bigfoot at all.

574
00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:09.320
<v Speaker 2>But when I was growing up in East Texas, we

575
00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:16.159
<v Speaker 2>saw we saw UFOs all the time, I mean crazy

576
00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:19.440
<v Speaker 2>stuff at night. We lived on top of the hill.

577
00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:24.440
<v Speaker 2>One man, we saw stuff that involve in UFOs that

578
00:47:24.679 --> 00:47:28.440
<v Speaker 2>was like mine involving. Sometimes it was as many as

579
00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:32.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, fifteen people that saw it at the same time,

580
00:47:33.199 --> 00:47:37.480
<v Speaker 2>like one big light come down, fly along, drop down

581
00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:41.039
<v Speaker 2>like a helicopter shooting beans, a light out, and then

582
00:47:41.119 --> 00:47:44.400
<v Speaker 2>fly up into another big ball of light that came

583
00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:48.239
<v Speaker 2>from space and zip into it, and then that thing

584
00:47:48.320 --> 00:47:51.599
<v Speaker 2>would take off and be gone into outer space in

585
00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:55.320
<v Speaker 2>a matter of seconds. I mean, we saw UFO stuff,

586
00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:04.639
<v Speaker 2>but never never saw glowing orbs or anything like that.

587
00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:07.480
<v Speaker 2>When I was doing with being out in the woods

588
00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:11.679
<v Speaker 2>and having the bigfoot stuff going around me, it was

589
00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:16.000
<v Speaker 2>just never saw the orbs or any of that.

590
00:48:18.639 --> 00:48:21.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and when you were gutting the deer, how close

591
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:23.760
<v Speaker 1>were the sasquatch to you.

592
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:35.440
<v Speaker 2>I would say probably fifty yards it was woods. But

593
00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:41.000
<v Speaker 2>it started out like a little limb breaking, the twigt

594
00:48:41.119 --> 00:48:43.719
<v Speaker 2>snapping eye. I thought it was deer, you know, curious

595
00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:48.639
<v Speaker 2>they smelled the dead deer, and I was like, oh,

596
00:48:48.679 --> 00:48:51.280
<v Speaker 2>it's just deer, you know. And I was putting that

597
00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:55.000
<v Speaker 2>because and then it kept getting louder and more intense,

598
00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:57.679
<v Speaker 2>and there was more limbs breaking on this side of me,

599
00:48:57.800 --> 00:49:00.400
<v Speaker 2>and then it was like all around me, like I

600
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:04.199
<v Speaker 2>was surrounded and it was getting louder, like the limb

601
00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:07.760
<v Speaker 2>breaking was getting louder, and I'm like, my gosh, what

602
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:08.400
<v Speaker 2>is that.

603
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:16.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Do you think they were trying to warn you

604
00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:19.480
<v Speaker 1>out of the area or they wanted the gut pile?

605
00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:24.119
<v Speaker 2>Mm? I think maybe they were trying to intimidate me

606
00:49:24.239 --> 00:49:30.079
<v Speaker 2>away from the deer. Like I think that. I think

607
00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:37.760
<v Speaker 2>that they actually assimilate gunshots with a chance at a meal.

608
00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:42.119
<v Speaker 2>Well you think, oh, they are a gun, it's gonna

609
00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:49.679
<v Speaker 2>scare them. No, I think that's like a dinner bell form,

610
00:49:49.760 --> 00:49:52.239
<v Speaker 2>Like they know there's a chance that they're going to

611
00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:56.960
<v Speaker 2>get something, you know. I don't. I don't. I don't

612
00:49:56.960 --> 00:50:00.920
<v Speaker 2>think gunfire intimidates them at all. I think when they

613
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:03.079
<v Speaker 2>hear a gun shoot, they think they got a chance

614
00:50:03.119 --> 00:50:06.000
<v Speaker 2>at some battle organs or something.

615
00:50:06.719 --> 00:50:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they see it as an opportunity.

616
00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Well.

617
00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:16.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it sounds like you've had a lot of experiences,

618
00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:20.079
<v Speaker 1>and I'm glad you contacted me because a lot of

619
00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:24.800
<v Speaker 1>the things that you mentioned I've experienced myself, And yeah,

620
00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:27.760
<v Speaker 1>I would agree with you. These things seem to be everywhere,

621
00:50:28.440 --> 00:50:32.880
<v Speaker 1>especially around the creek bottoms and the big woods. Do

622
00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:35.360
<v Speaker 1>you still go out in the woods looking for them?

623
00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:40.079
<v Speaker 1>Do you ever try to find evidence. Do you have

624
00:50:40.199 --> 00:50:43.920
<v Speaker 1>experiences to this day? How's everything going now?

625
00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:54.119
<v Speaker 2>No? I mean really, yeah, Michael, I haven't even got started.

626
00:50:55.039 --> 00:50:57.000
<v Speaker 2>This is just like a precursor.

627
00:50:58.199 --> 00:51:02.639
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you still have more to share. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

628
00:51:02.679 --> 00:51:04.920
<v Speaker 1>let's get into what else have you experienced?

629
00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:10.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? A lot, a lot more. This is what everything

630
00:51:10.599 --> 00:51:15.800
<v Speaker 2>I've told you so far is minor stuff compared to

631
00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:22.159
<v Speaker 2>some things that we've had happened. So my son that

632
00:51:22.280 --> 00:51:30.079
<v Speaker 2>lived in East Texas, he let me think he had

633
00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:37.400
<v Speaker 2>something going on at his house. So me and my

634
00:51:38.239 --> 00:51:43.800
<v Speaker 2>daughter and my nephew went to his house in East

635
00:51:43.840 --> 00:51:51.159
<v Speaker 2>Texas and we were hanging out and I started talking

636
00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:57.360
<v Speaker 2>about Bigfoot. And then right at dark, he lives on

637
00:51:57.400 --> 00:52:01.239
<v Speaker 2>a creek. He lives on another that flows into the

638
00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:06.440
<v Speaker 2>Sabine River, similar to what I did growing up. He

639
00:52:06.519 --> 00:52:09.519
<v Speaker 2>lives on a small creek that goes into the river

640
00:52:11.800 --> 00:52:16.079
<v Speaker 2>and probably a little bit shorter, probably six miles to

641
00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:21.000
<v Speaker 2>the river, but not far from the river. And we

642
00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:25.920
<v Speaker 2>were hanging out in the back yard and then right

643
00:52:25.960 --> 00:52:33.320
<v Speaker 2>about dark, where does hog start? It just started squealing

644
00:52:33.400 --> 00:52:40.119
<v Speaker 2>and it was I've never heard a hog, never never

645
00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:43.639
<v Speaker 2>heard a hog like that squeal And squawl like that,

646
00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:46.920
<v Speaker 2>and then it was almost like you could hear the

647
00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:50.679
<v Speaker 2>life getting squeezed out of it. It was like squealing

648
00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:57.599
<v Speaker 2>and hollering. And then it's slowly you could hear you

649
00:52:57.639 --> 00:53:00.719
<v Speaker 2>could literally hear it getting the live squeal out of it.

650
00:53:03.719 --> 00:53:05.719
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, there's nothing that can do that

651
00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:15.320
<v Speaker 2>but a big foot. So that night, uh, my son,

652
00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:19.079
<v Speaker 2>he had some side besides. We got on the side besides,

653
00:53:19.119 --> 00:53:27.199
<v Speaker 2>and we went down this old oilfield road and we

654
00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:34.880
<v Speaker 2>went back down towards the end of the property, but

655
00:53:35.559 --> 00:53:42.119
<v Speaker 2>really not that far from the creek. And we set

656
00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:45.280
<v Speaker 2>out to, you know, just see if we could hear

657
00:53:45.320 --> 00:53:48.519
<v Speaker 2>anything or whatever. And we got down that old oil

658
00:53:48.559 --> 00:53:52.480
<v Speaker 2>field site and we were walking around in the dark,

659
00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:56.239
<v Speaker 2>looking around. And the weird thing was when we pulled up,

660
00:53:56.280 --> 00:53:59.280
<v Speaker 2>there was a dough in a fawn standing out in

661
00:53:59.360 --> 00:54:03.920
<v Speaker 2>the opening in the old field path and they were

662
00:54:03.960 --> 00:54:06.280
<v Speaker 2>just kneeling around. They weren't scared of us at all.

663
00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:08.719
<v Speaker 2>I guess they're used to old field trucks or something.

664
00:54:08.840 --> 00:54:12.519
<v Speaker 2>But they didn't run or anything. They just kind of

665
00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:14.840
<v Speaker 2>entered in the woods. And then after we'd been there

666
00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:21.639
<v Speaker 2>about twenty minutes, we heard like a like a loud

667
00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:34.159
<v Speaker 2>bleating like a deer and distress call it like, and

668
00:54:34.199 --> 00:54:36.320
<v Speaker 2>it was the same thing with the hogs. It was

669
00:54:36.440 --> 00:54:39.360
<v Speaker 2>like you could you could tell that the deer was

670
00:54:39.400 --> 00:54:44.559
<v Speaker 2>getting killed from the way it was, you know, balling

671
00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:50.039
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. It was the distress call. And we were

672
00:54:50.039 --> 00:54:52.840
<v Speaker 2>walking around the old field site and then I walked

673
00:54:52.920 --> 00:54:55.039
<v Speaker 2>to the back of this one corner of it and

674
00:54:55.079 --> 00:54:58.679
<v Speaker 2>there was a dead, big, dead pine tree down and

675
00:54:58.920 --> 00:55:01.000
<v Speaker 2>I could hear the winds breaking in there. I could

676
00:55:01.000 --> 00:55:05.760
<v Speaker 2>tell something was stepping on the dead limbs in there.

677
00:55:07.679 --> 00:55:13.760
<v Speaker 2>And I went back towards my kids and I told

678
00:55:13.800 --> 00:55:17.760
<v Speaker 2>them I heard something walking back down in there behind,

679
00:55:19.159 --> 00:55:21.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, or down where that pine tree was at.

680
00:55:21.920 --> 00:55:25.280
<v Speaker 2>And then we were staying on the path, we heard

681
00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:30.519
<v Speaker 2>a whoop on the other side, just a definite, clear whoop,

682
00:55:30.760 --> 00:55:38.599
<v Speaker 2>like a bigfoot wool, you know wool. And we all

683
00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:41.960
<v Speaker 2>were just standing there trying to listen to anything that

684
00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:44.280
<v Speaker 2>was going on around us. And then we heard a

685
00:55:44.360 --> 00:55:46.840
<v Speaker 2>noise behind us, and we walked over to the edge

686
00:55:46.840 --> 00:55:49.880
<v Speaker 2>of the oilfield path and we're looking out in the

687
00:55:49.920 --> 00:55:54.320
<v Speaker 2>woods and then we heard a like a like a

688
00:55:54.599 --> 00:55:57.599
<v Speaker 2>grunt or growl kind of noise, and then you could

689
00:55:57.639 --> 00:56:05.760
<v Speaker 2>hear like pine bark being knocked off the tree, like

690
00:56:05.880 --> 00:56:10.880
<v Speaker 2>something was up in the pine tree. After the grunt

691
00:56:12.039 --> 00:56:16.159
<v Speaker 2>growl sound, slid down the pine tree. You could hear

692
00:56:16.199 --> 00:56:20.199
<v Speaker 2>it the bark sliding like a bear sliding out of

693
00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:23.639
<v Speaker 2>the tree or something. Then we heard a thump where

694
00:56:23.639 --> 00:56:28.519
<v Speaker 2>it hit the ground. Then we heard it again the

695
00:56:28.639 --> 00:56:32.039
<v Speaker 2>same tree. It slid down the tree and then thump

696
00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:39.400
<v Speaker 2>hit the ground. Locking like two young ones were up

697
00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:44.400
<v Speaker 2>in the tree and the mom did a grunt growl

698
00:56:44.519 --> 00:56:48.280
<v Speaker 2>thing telling them to get out of the tree, and

699
00:56:48.360 --> 00:56:50.960
<v Speaker 2>they got like halfway down to the ground, and maybe

700
00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:54.360
<v Speaker 2>when they were seven or eight feet off the ground

701
00:56:54.400 --> 00:56:58.400
<v Speaker 2>from sliding down the tree, they jumped to the ground.

702
00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:03.920
<v Speaker 2>You could hear them hit the ground boom boom, and

703
00:57:03.960 --> 00:57:11.599
<v Speaker 2>then you could hear limbs breaking and stuff. So we

704
00:57:11.679 --> 00:57:14.960
<v Speaker 2>stayed there trying to figure out that what was going on,

705
00:57:15.239 --> 00:57:20.519
<v Speaker 2>and uh, everything just kind of quieted down, and we

706
00:57:20.760 --> 00:57:24.119
<v Speaker 2>decided we were going to go down the river, and

707
00:57:24.199 --> 00:57:29.320
<v Speaker 2>we walked back to the side besides and start them

708
00:57:29.360 --> 00:57:31.480
<v Speaker 2>up and turn on the headlights. And when we did,

709
00:57:32.840 --> 00:57:39.800
<v Speaker 2>the little fawn that we saw with its mom when

710
00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:43.079
<v Speaker 2>we first got down there was wandering around on the

711
00:57:43.719 --> 00:57:55.199
<v Speaker 2>edge of the old pad by itself. The mom was gone.

712
00:57:55.480 --> 00:57:59.880
<v Speaker 2>You remember I said we heard the the deer bleep

713
00:58:00.519 --> 00:58:08.880
<v Speaker 2>like it got killed. Yeah, well we we think what

714
00:58:09.039 --> 00:58:13.519
<v Speaker 2>happened is those two went into the woods right there

715
00:58:13.519 --> 00:58:17.199
<v Speaker 2>on the edge, and they were there and one of

716
00:58:17.199 --> 00:58:19.960
<v Speaker 2>them grabbed the mom who killed it. And that's why

717
00:58:20.039 --> 00:58:24.440
<v Speaker 2>the fawn was out there just wandering around looking for

718
00:58:24.480 --> 00:58:29.599
<v Speaker 2>the mom. It was just out there by itself, wandering around.

719
00:58:31.039 --> 00:58:33.039
<v Speaker 2>So we left there and we went down to the

720
00:58:33.159 --> 00:58:37.639
<v Speaker 2>river and we got down the river. We were on

721
00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:44.599
<v Speaker 2>the edge of like this Oxbow Lake and it's real

722
00:58:44.719 --> 00:58:51.760
<v Speaker 2>swampy down there. It was flooded. Everything was flooded, and

723
00:58:54.000 --> 00:58:58.840
<v Speaker 2>we had been just standing there listening for a little while.

724
00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:01.119
<v Speaker 2>We weren't far from the world, you know, I mean

725
00:59:01.199 --> 00:59:05.679
<v Speaker 2>maybe fifteen twenty foot from the water. But now I

726
00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:09.480
<v Speaker 2>take that back. Right after we walked down and got

727
00:59:09.519 --> 00:59:12.960
<v Speaker 2>by the water, we heard a tree get pushed over

728
00:59:13.079 --> 00:59:18.440
<v Speaker 2>into the water made a big loud splash not long

729
00:59:18.519 --> 00:59:22.159
<v Speaker 2>after we got down there. It just like crack and

730
00:59:22.199 --> 00:59:26.679
<v Speaker 2>then slam. You could hear it in the water. So

731
00:59:26.719 --> 00:59:30.599
<v Speaker 2>we were just standing there in the dark, talking and everything,

732
00:59:34.320 --> 00:59:40.079
<v Speaker 2>and then all of a sudden, the fish in the

733
00:59:40.119 --> 00:59:44.800
<v Speaker 2>water just started like scurrant scrambling around getting up in

734
00:59:44.880 --> 00:59:47.280
<v Speaker 2>shallow water, almost like they were trying to get up

735
00:59:47.400 --> 00:59:50.440
<v Speaker 2>out of the water on the bank or something. All over,

736
00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:55.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean everywhere, fish were running around in the shallow

737
00:59:55.599 --> 00:59:57.639
<v Speaker 2>water like they were trying to get out of the water,

738
01:00:00.239 --> 01:00:06.000
<v Speaker 2>just thinking what the heck. And we're standing there watching

739
01:00:06.679 --> 01:00:10.599
<v Speaker 2>or you know, listening to the fish, and we could

740
01:00:10.880 --> 01:00:13.920
<v Speaker 2>see the water splashing around where they were doing their thing.

741
01:00:14.679 --> 01:00:18.199
<v Speaker 2>Something was scaring them. And then we heard a loud

742
01:00:19.639 --> 01:00:24.840
<v Speaker 2>crack of a big tree breaking and then it hit

743
01:00:24.920 --> 01:00:30.159
<v Speaker 2>the ground and it was probably fifty or sixty yards

744
01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:32.360
<v Speaker 2>from us. It hit the ground, and when it did,

745
01:00:32.920 --> 01:00:36.920
<v Speaker 2>you could feel it when the tree hit the ground.

746
01:00:37.559 --> 01:00:41.159
<v Speaker 2>So this is a second tree. One got pushed in

747
01:00:41.239 --> 01:00:44.719
<v Speaker 2>the water when we first got down there. And then

748
01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:48.079
<v Speaker 2>after the fish deal, a big tree got pushed over

749
01:00:49.559 --> 01:00:56.079
<v Speaker 2>and hit the ground. So we're all kind of standing

750
01:00:56.079 --> 01:00:59.239
<v Speaker 2>there and shot. And then you hear some limbs breaking

751
01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:04.840
<v Speaker 2>and stuff break, and like a Swiss noise in that

752
01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:09.719
<v Speaker 2>tree that it got pushed to the ground got swung

753
01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:13.440
<v Speaker 2>into another big tree, a live tree, and it broke

754
01:01:13.519 --> 01:01:17.000
<v Speaker 2>that other the tree that got pushed over, it broke

755
01:01:17.039 --> 01:01:22.039
<v Speaker 2>it again. You could hear it breaking like a bat.

756
01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:24.960
<v Speaker 2>It picked it up off the ground and broke it

757
01:01:25.039 --> 01:01:32.239
<v Speaker 2>like a bat into the other tree. And right after

758
01:01:32.320 --> 01:01:49.880
<v Speaker 2>that happened, it yelled cool. So it was so loud.

759
01:01:51.239 --> 01:01:54.960
<v Speaker 2>It was so loud that it was like it penetrated

760
01:01:55.000 --> 01:02:01.400
<v Speaker 2>your soul. Your whole body vibrated. That's how lad it was.

761
01:02:07.480 --> 01:02:09.159
<v Speaker 1>So what do you think it was trying to say?

762
01:02:09.519 --> 01:02:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Was it like a language or more?

763
01:02:11.920 --> 01:02:16.679
<v Speaker 2>No, it wasn't. Nov It was like it was yelling

764
01:02:16.719 --> 01:02:20.079
<v Speaker 2>out a man's name, Freddy, Like my name is Freddy.

765
01:02:21.719 --> 01:02:29.119
<v Speaker 2>But it was loud, long and bold. M But whatever

766
01:02:30.159 --> 01:02:34.000
<v Speaker 2>this bigfoot had herd or been around or whatever, it

767
01:02:34.239 --> 01:02:40.280
<v Speaker 2>definitely was yelling out Freddy loud and long. It was

768
01:02:40.320 --> 01:02:48.280
<v Speaker 2>repeating a name that it had heard before. Now this

769
01:02:48.440 --> 01:02:51.440
<v Speaker 2>is after knocked the big tree over and swung it

770
01:02:51.559 --> 01:02:57.360
<v Speaker 2>like about into the other one. And I don't know

771
01:02:57.400 --> 01:03:00.400
<v Speaker 2>how long after that, but we were standing there and

772
01:03:00.920 --> 01:03:03.239
<v Speaker 2>I was like trying to shine a light, turned on

773
01:03:03.320 --> 01:03:05.679
<v Speaker 2>the flashlight finally, and was trying to stand the light

774
01:03:06.280 --> 01:03:08.639
<v Speaker 2>to see if we could see anything. I couldn't see

775
01:03:08.639 --> 01:03:15.639
<v Speaker 2>anything but woods. When when that happened, Miguel, my eyes

776
01:03:15.760 --> 01:03:19.840
<v Speaker 2>teared up instantly, I literally had tears pouring down my face,

777
01:03:21.559 --> 01:03:24.280
<v Speaker 2>coming up my eyes just like I was crying, but

778
01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:28.760
<v Speaker 2>not I wasn't crying, but it scared me so bad

779
01:03:28.840 --> 01:03:35.039
<v Speaker 2>that my eyes started watering after the Freddy deal, and

780
01:03:35.079 --> 01:03:39.119
<v Speaker 2>then I shined the light on my kids and my

781
01:03:39.239 --> 01:03:42.440
<v Speaker 2>nephew and all their eyes were watering too, I mean,

782
01:03:42.760 --> 01:03:49.400
<v Speaker 2>just tears pouring down their face, like running down. And

783
01:03:49.440 --> 01:03:52.519
<v Speaker 2>then from the from the other end of the we

784
01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:56.920
<v Speaker 2>were by ox Bow Lake that was flooded, so it

785
01:03:56.960 --> 01:04:01.880
<v Speaker 2>was real like a swamp. Really h we heard might

786
01:04:02.519 --> 01:04:13.000
<v Speaker 2>right night night, Mike, why I and this it was loud,

787
01:04:13.920 --> 01:04:16.760
<v Speaker 2>and this was, you know, a quarter of a mile

788
01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:19.639
<v Speaker 2>away from us, from the other end of the deal,

789
01:04:20.280 --> 01:04:29.440
<v Speaker 2>the laate dogsbor. So we're all standing there in shock,

790
01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:39.559
<v Speaker 2>and then we start hearing whimbs breaking, you know, thirty

791
01:04:39.639 --> 01:04:42.079
<v Speaker 2>forty yards from us on the other side of us,

792
01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:54.239
<v Speaker 2>intentional limbrace you know, smack crack, and I mean we

793
01:04:54.280 --> 01:04:58.639
<v Speaker 2>had a gun with us, but it was like it

794
01:04:58.679 --> 01:05:05.480
<v Speaker 2>was it was crazy. It was just crazy. We we

795
01:05:05.519 --> 01:05:08.880
<v Speaker 2>were standing there, you know, in shock, and we were

796
01:05:09.360 --> 01:05:14.119
<v Speaker 2>we finally just said let's just go, and as we

797
01:05:14.119 --> 01:05:19.719
<v Speaker 2>were leaving, I've never been scared of, you know, something

798
01:05:19.719 --> 01:05:24.000
<v Speaker 2>to grab me. But to be honest, as we were leaving,

799
01:05:24.119 --> 01:05:26.400
<v Speaker 2>even though I was on that side beside I was,

800
01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:32.199
<v Speaker 2>I was like thinking, wow, you know, I don't I

801
01:05:32.239 --> 01:05:33.800
<v Speaker 2>don't even want to be down here.

802
01:05:40.440 --> 01:05:43.320
<v Speaker 1>So it scared you pretty bad. I can only imagine

803
01:05:43.360 --> 01:05:47.320
<v Speaker 1>after hearing those big trees getting pushed over and this

804
01:05:47.559 --> 01:05:49.480
<v Speaker 1>creature trying to say someone's name.

805
01:05:54.599 --> 01:06:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it it was a definitely yelling someone's mind all

806
01:06:06.440 --> 01:06:12.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean really, it was loud and clear, and I

807
01:06:12.440 --> 01:06:15.719
<v Speaker 2>don't maybe it'd a been down there hurt guys on

808
01:06:15.800 --> 01:06:20.039
<v Speaker 2>the oil site working and heard some guy say Freddy

809
01:06:20.199 --> 01:06:24.760
<v Speaker 2>or something before, but it Dancer yelled out Freddy long

810
01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:30.679
<v Speaker 2>and hard, I mean, body vibrating, loud and hard.

811
01:06:32.480 --> 01:06:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, it is scary.

812
01:06:37.519 --> 01:06:39.079
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever heard of him doing that?

813
01:06:42.119 --> 01:06:47.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, I've heard of people saying that the creature

814
01:06:47.679 --> 01:06:50.320
<v Speaker 1>said their name. My friend Bill and the Mark Twain

815
01:06:50.400 --> 01:06:53.679
<v Speaker 1>National Forest here in Missouri said the creature said his

816
01:06:53.800 --> 01:06:56.760
<v Speaker 1>name from the woods and it was like a very

817
01:06:56.960 --> 01:07:01.480
<v Speaker 1>low voice, and it's scary and pretty bad. I asked them,

818
01:07:01.719 --> 01:07:05.440
<v Speaker 1>did they possibly hear you say your name when you

819
01:07:05.480 --> 01:07:08.519
<v Speaker 1>called your wife? He said no, no, there's no way

820
01:07:08.519 --> 01:07:09.320
<v Speaker 1>it could have known my.

821
01:07:09.320 --> 01:07:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Name, Yeah, Miguel. They can imitate or they can imitate

822
01:07:24.559 --> 01:07:28.800
<v Speaker 2>anything they can hear, and they can replicate English perfectly,

823
01:07:29.760 --> 01:07:33.760
<v Speaker 2>even almost to the tone of your voice. I know

824
01:07:33.880 --> 01:07:34.639
<v Speaker 2>that for a fact.

825
01:07:36.480 --> 01:07:39.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And the second one you heard, was it what

826
01:07:39.280 --> 01:07:40.719
<v Speaker 1>did it say? Did it say Mike?

827
01:07:42.159 --> 01:07:46.039
<v Speaker 2>It was like Mike, not not that clear. It was

828
01:07:46.119 --> 01:07:52.320
<v Speaker 2>like more like Mike Mark, what Mike Mark? And it

829
01:07:52.440 --> 01:07:59.239
<v Speaker 2>was yelling it loud, over and over and over. Wow,

830
01:08:00.119 --> 01:08:05.880
<v Speaker 2>Like it was yelling Mike. But it was like someone

831
01:08:05.960 --> 01:08:08.960
<v Speaker 2>on a PA system at a football game or something,

832
01:08:09.400 --> 01:08:12.800
<v Speaker 2>and it was it was probably a fob. It was

833
01:08:12.840 --> 01:08:19.680
<v Speaker 2>on the other end of the the flooded oxbow late

834
01:08:20.399 --> 01:08:26.279
<v Speaker 2>probably you know, four hundred yards away, maybe five. It

835
01:08:26.359 --> 01:08:29.560
<v Speaker 2>was long ways away. But it was loud, loud, loud.

836
01:08:31.119 --> 01:08:35.079
<v Speaker 2>Not not as loud as the Freddy stuff, but it

837
01:08:35.199 --> 01:08:35.680
<v Speaker 2>was loud.

838
01:08:41.119 --> 01:08:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is scary. What else unfolded after.

839
01:08:45.479 --> 01:09:00.119
<v Speaker 2>This, Well, we went we went back home, and you know,

840
01:09:00.239 --> 01:09:07.600
<v Speaker 2>had a story for the rest of our lives. And then, uh,

841
01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:11.439
<v Speaker 2>when that happened, my son was actually living up a

842
01:09:11.520 --> 01:09:14.560
<v Speaker 2>little bit further down the road, but then he got

843
01:09:14.600 --> 01:09:19.880
<v Speaker 2>a house that was actually at the back of the property,

844
01:09:19.920 --> 01:09:23.319
<v Speaker 2>closer to the creek, like only a few hundred yards

845
01:09:23.319 --> 01:09:28.680
<v Speaker 2>from the creek. And when he moved into that house

846
01:09:28.880 --> 01:09:41.079
<v Speaker 2>is uh, that's when no stuff really started happening. When

847
01:09:41.119 --> 01:09:45.520
<v Speaker 2>he when he got closer to the creek at the

848
01:09:45.560 --> 01:09:58.640
<v Speaker 2>back of the property. Uh. When he first moved down there,

849
01:09:58.760 --> 01:10:06.039
<v Speaker 2>he had some dogs. He was raising dogs, and uh,

850
01:10:06.640 --> 01:10:11.880
<v Speaker 2>his dogs would always be barking. He had I don't know,

851
01:10:12.199 --> 01:10:17.520
<v Speaker 2>he had several dogs, but his dogs would they were

852
01:10:17.560 --> 01:10:20.760
<v Speaker 2>down there by the creek, and they would bark at

853
01:10:20.840 --> 01:10:23.119
<v Speaker 2>night and everything. And then one night he was down

854
01:10:23.119 --> 01:10:27.680
<v Speaker 2>there feeding them, and he said that he heard something

855
01:10:27.720 --> 01:10:32.399
<v Speaker 2>in the woods. And he walked over there and was,

856
01:10:32.800 --> 01:10:37.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, standing still right beside the woods, not far

857
01:10:37.159 --> 01:10:42.520
<v Speaker 2>from the creek, and he said, heard a like a

858
01:10:43.039 --> 01:10:51.039
<v Speaker 2>weird wishing noise, like something going through the air like oh,

859
01:10:52.000 --> 01:10:53.760
<v Speaker 2>and then he said, all of a sudden, a big

860
01:10:53.800 --> 01:10:58.640
<v Speaker 2>tree hit another tree like like it was. He said

861
01:10:58.640 --> 01:11:01.720
<v Speaker 2>it was like something picked up up, you know, a

862
01:11:01.880 --> 01:11:06.399
<v Speaker 2>tree twelve inches in diameter and swung it into another

863
01:11:06.520 --> 01:11:13.920
<v Speaker 2>tree like a bat. And he said it scared he

864
01:11:13.960 --> 01:11:16.439
<v Speaker 2>had he had a pistol with him. It scared him

865
01:11:17.000 --> 01:11:23.279
<v Speaker 2>so bad that he just like picked up his shoulder.

866
01:11:25.560 --> 01:11:30.199
<v Speaker 2>He got his pistol out, picked up his shoulder to

867
01:11:30.319 --> 01:11:34.640
<v Speaker 2>cover his ear, and then he fired off a couple

868
01:11:34.640 --> 01:11:38.439
<v Speaker 2>of shots towards it. He put his shoulder up to

869
01:11:38.520 --> 01:11:41.359
<v Speaker 2>his ear to block his ear from the sound of

870
01:11:41.399 --> 01:11:42.760
<v Speaker 2>the pistol. You know what I'm talking.

871
01:11:42.680 --> 01:11:45.479
<v Speaker 1>Out It sounds like they were really mad that he

872
01:11:45.560 --> 01:11:46.279
<v Speaker 1>was in the area.

873
01:11:47.199 --> 01:11:51.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they were probably mad about the dogs being there,

874
01:11:51.279 --> 01:11:54.159
<v Speaker 2>because the dogs there had never been dogs down there,

875
01:11:54.199 --> 01:11:57.520
<v Speaker 2>and now they got dogs right there by their running ground,

876
01:11:58.600 --> 01:11:59.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, on the tree.

877
01:12:00.359 --> 01:12:07.239
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm, yeah, I would think so they definitely sounded upset.

878
01:12:07.359 --> 01:12:09.520
<v Speaker 1>And what did your son do after that?

879
01:12:14.119 --> 01:12:18.199
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, he already he had already been through

880
01:12:18.279 --> 01:12:22.000
<v Speaker 2>all the big he knew what it was. He knew

881
01:12:22.039 --> 01:12:24.560
<v Speaker 2>it was big foot, you know, he'd already been through everything.

882
01:12:25.439 --> 01:12:30.680
<v Speaker 2>He'd already you know, experienced a freendything and all the

883
01:12:30.720 --> 01:12:33.439
<v Speaker 2>rest of that stuff. Plus when he was a little kid,

884
01:12:33.760 --> 01:12:38.279
<v Speaker 2>the thing that yelled when we picked up the snake

885
01:12:38.319 --> 01:12:41.119
<v Speaker 2>when he was a little kid, you know, so he

886
01:12:41.199 --> 01:12:47.239
<v Speaker 2>knew they were real already. But then as he started

887
01:12:48.399 --> 01:12:51.079
<v Speaker 2>living there longer, he would hear things, you know, he

888
01:12:51.119 --> 01:12:57.520
<v Speaker 2>would hear different noises. And his daughter, she was you know, young,

889
01:12:57.920 --> 01:13:01.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean she would get out of bed at night

890
01:13:01.840 --> 01:13:05.680
<v Speaker 2>and come and get in bed with him and saying

891
01:13:05.720 --> 01:13:07.800
<v Speaker 2>that she didn't want to sleep in the room. She

892
01:13:07.920 --> 01:13:14.560
<v Speaker 2>was scared. But anyway, as she was getting older, you know,

893
01:13:14.720 --> 01:13:17.479
<v Speaker 2>she kept doing that. If she was growing, she didn't

894
01:13:17.520 --> 01:13:20.520
<v Speaker 2>want to sleep in her bedroom. And then I came

895
01:13:20.560 --> 01:13:24.960
<v Speaker 2>down there one time and stayed with him. And when

896
01:13:24.960 --> 01:13:31.000
<v Speaker 2>I got there, we heard different stuff, and we'd be

897
01:13:31.159 --> 01:13:34.520
<v Speaker 2>down as barn at night. We did. We heard different things.

898
01:13:34.560 --> 01:13:39.640
<v Speaker 2>But I was talking to my granddaughter and she she

899
01:13:39.840 --> 01:13:43.760
<v Speaker 2>told me that the reason she didn't want to sleep

900
01:13:43.760 --> 01:13:48.760
<v Speaker 2>in her room was because the bear man would come

901
01:13:48.800 --> 01:13:50.199
<v Speaker 2>and watch her through a window.

902
01:13:56.920 --> 01:13:59.239
<v Speaker 1>Do you think she was referring to bigfoot or something else?

903
01:14:02.079 --> 01:14:05.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I mean, no, it had to have

904
01:14:05.720 --> 01:14:08.680
<v Speaker 2>been a big foot. What what else is a bear man?

905
01:14:10.199 --> 01:14:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. Yeah, Well, like you said earlier about like werewolves,

906
01:14:14.640 --> 01:14:18.159
<v Speaker 1>and there's gugways, which is a little like kind of

907
01:14:18.199 --> 01:14:22.640
<v Speaker 1>like bigfoot and dog man combined in one. People described

908
01:14:22.680 --> 01:14:28.560
<v Speaker 1>it like like a bear head, basically like sasquatch body,

909
01:14:28.600 --> 01:14:31.239
<v Speaker 1>but it had a head like a head similar to

910
01:14:31.279 --> 01:14:37.119
<v Speaker 1>like a grizzly bear. But yeah, most likely bigfoot.

911
01:14:38.039 --> 01:14:44.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think the bigfoots were coming up there at

912
01:14:44.119 --> 01:14:52.439
<v Speaker 2>night watching her through the window. So I was there

913
01:14:52.520 --> 01:15:01.319
<v Speaker 2>withing and trying them. I'm thinking, Uh. We decided we

914
01:15:01.319 --> 01:15:05.920
<v Speaker 2>were gonna camp out in his barn. One night we

915
01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:12.319
<v Speaker 2>had been hearing noises. Uh. One night we had a

916
01:15:12.359 --> 01:15:20.079
<v Speaker 2>big campfire going in the backyard between his house and

917
01:15:20.119 --> 01:15:23.359
<v Speaker 2>the creek, and then him were out there just talking

918
01:15:23.439 --> 01:15:32.920
<v Speaker 2>and laughing. And then the next night I was in

919
01:15:33.039 --> 01:15:40.640
<v Speaker 2>the kitchen, uh, doing dishes or cooking something, I don't remember.

920
01:15:41.560 --> 01:15:47.479
<v Speaker 2>I had the kitchen window open, and I I could

921
01:15:47.479 --> 01:15:54.760
<v Speaker 2>hear them running down the creek imitating our labs, like

922
01:15:54.840 --> 01:15:59.520
<v Speaker 2>a loud, cackling laugh, like they were making front of us,

923
01:16:00.800 --> 01:16:03.600
<v Speaker 2>like they were down there listening to us when we

924
01:16:03.600 --> 01:16:08.119
<v Speaker 2>were around the campfire laughing, and they were. They were

925
01:16:08.239 --> 01:16:11.159
<v Speaker 2>laughing as they ran down the creek. I could hear

926
01:16:11.199 --> 01:16:19.359
<v Speaker 2>it plain as day, like a like a imitating tape

927
01:16:21.640 --> 01:16:24.159
<v Speaker 2>kind of making fun of us kind of thing or something.

928
01:16:24.520 --> 01:16:29.960
<v Speaker 2>But it was loud and they were laughing, similar to

929
01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:37.600
<v Speaker 2>what we were around the campfire. But anyway, we decided

930
01:16:37.640 --> 01:16:41.840
<v Speaker 2>to camp out down there in the barn, which is

931
01:16:41.920 --> 01:16:46.840
<v Speaker 2>close to the creek, and he had these big box fans,

932
01:16:47.079 --> 01:16:53.039
<v Speaker 2>so we put these big box fans on across the

933
01:16:53.119 --> 01:16:56.439
<v Speaker 2>opening on the back of the garage of the shop

934
01:16:56.960 --> 01:17:00.359
<v Speaker 2>it's really a shop. We put these big box fans over.

935
01:17:00.399 --> 01:17:03.560
<v Speaker 2>They had big steel gratings on them and everything, and

936
01:17:03.600 --> 01:17:07.960
<v Speaker 2>then we brought the garage door down to the top

937
01:17:08.000 --> 01:17:13.119
<v Speaker 2>of the box fans and we set up a tent

938
01:17:13.520 --> 01:17:18.600
<v Speaker 2>and a cot in there, just to see what would happen.

939
01:17:19.319 --> 01:17:29.359
<v Speaker 2>And then something woke us up and you could just

940
01:17:29.439 --> 01:17:37.319
<v Speaker 2>smell this stench smelled like mud. It was just like

941
01:17:37.359 --> 01:17:41.760
<v Speaker 2>a but it had a stink to it. It smelled

942
01:17:41.840 --> 01:17:44.560
<v Speaker 2>like the mud. From down there, close to the curtain,

943
01:17:44.600 --> 01:17:47.960
<v Speaker 2>you could it was overwhelming, though. It was just so

944
01:17:48.000 --> 01:17:53.920
<v Speaker 2>they were up there investigating, and then I fell back

945
01:17:53.920 --> 01:18:01.840
<v Speaker 2>asleep and I heard a weird like a metallic sound

946
01:18:03.119 --> 01:18:07.960
<v Speaker 2>or something sliding or something, and I was sitting there listening.

947
01:18:08.039 --> 01:18:10.319
<v Speaker 2>I heard it for a second, and then I heard

948
01:18:10.359 --> 01:18:17.840
<v Speaker 2>it again, and I was like, on Earth is that noise?

949
01:18:19.119 --> 01:18:25.319
<v Speaker 2>So eventually I fell back to sleep, and then my

950
01:18:25.399 --> 01:18:28.039
<v Speaker 2>son he woke me up and he was like, did

951
01:18:28.119 --> 01:18:30.359
<v Speaker 2>you hear that? And I was like, no, No, I

952
01:18:30.359 --> 01:18:34.279
<v Speaker 2>didn't hear anything. And he's like yeah, He's like, something

953
01:18:34.319 --> 01:18:37.159
<v Speaker 2>woke me up, and he said, I set up, and

954
01:18:37.159 --> 01:18:39.600
<v Speaker 2>he's like, when I did, he said, I heard something

955
01:18:39.640 --> 01:18:44.439
<v Speaker 2>take off, running like back down towards the creek. But

956
01:18:44.560 --> 01:18:48.359
<v Speaker 2>I could actually hear the feet hitting the ground. And

957
01:18:48.399 --> 01:18:52.199
<v Speaker 2>he's like, it was by feedal two feet. But he's like,

958
01:18:52.319 --> 01:18:55.000
<v Speaker 2>I've never heard feet move that fast in my life.

959
01:18:55.640 --> 01:18:58.399
<v Speaker 2>It was like somebody hitting the drum ba ba b

960
01:18:58.399 --> 01:19:00.960
<v Speaker 2>b blah by bay it was and so fast.

961
01:19:02.319 --> 01:19:05.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so he could hear the footsteps. I've heard that

962
01:19:05.439 --> 01:19:06.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot in the reports.

963
01:19:08.079 --> 01:19:12.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I'm like a little one, like a like

964
01:19:12.199 --> 01:19:18.000
<v Speaker 2>a young one running no wow, not not like big

965
01:19:18.079 --> 01:19:24.319
<v Speaker 2>long strides boom boom boom boom boom, but like just

966
01:19:24.479 --> 01:19:26.279
<v Speaker 2>like he said, like a sprinter.

967
01:19:29.880 --> 01:19:32.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very well, could have been a young one running away.

968
01:19:41.520 --> 01:19:47.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And this was, you know, all all this stuff

969
01:19:47.840 --> 01:19:53.399
<v Speaker 2>is going on within you know, probably a couple of weeks.

970
01:19:53.439 --> 01:20:09.319
<v Speaker 2>So that I was a and then uh h, the

971
01:20:09.319 --> 01:20:14.319
<v Speaker 2>the laughing. Oh yeah. And then and then another night, Uh,

972
01:20:16.359 --> 01:20:19.359
<v Speaker 2>I was down at the shop and he had uh

973
01:20:20.920 --> 01:20:26.399
<v Speaker 2>he has like a little tackle bait and tackle room

974
01:20:28.000 --> 01:20:35.960
<v Speaker 2>where he keeps all his fish and stuff. And I

975
01:20:36.079 --> 01:20:41.119
<v Speaker 2>was don there and it was I don't remember what

976
01:20:41.279 --> 01:20:44.000
<v Speaker 2>time of night it was. It was later at night though,

977
01:20:44.960 --> 01:20:54.319
<v Speaker 2>and I heard him feeding the dogs. I heard him.

978
01:20:54.520 --> 01:20:57.720
<v Speaker 2>He's he goes in there, you know, he's talking to

979
01:20:57.800 --> 01:20:59.680
<v Speaker 2>his dogs when he's feeding him. And it was like

980
01:21:01.000 --> 01:21:04.600
<v Speaker 2>he has this deal where he says, oh, that's a

981
01:21:04.640 --> 01:21:14.720
<v Speaker 2>good boy, Oh that's a good boy when he's feeding them.

982
01:21:15.279 --> 01:21:20.039
<v Speaker 2>And so I walked. I walked out of the tackle

983
01:21:20.119 --> 01:21:27.239
<v Speaker 2>room and I started looking around, like backwards dogs were

984
01:21:27.279 --> 01:21:29.880
<v Speaker 2>at and I didn't see flashlight or anything. I was like,

985
01:21:30.279 --> 01:21:33.560
<v Speaker 2>I didn't think much about it, and then I went

986
01:21:33.600 --> 01:21:38.119
<v Speaker 2>back in there, and then I don't know, twenty thirty

987
01:21:38.199 --> 01:21:43.880
<v Speaker 2>minutes later, he came down. I was like, yeah, what's

988
01:21:44.039 --> 01:21:46.319
<v Speaker 2>going on. He's like, I'm going to feed the dogs.

989
01:21:46.359 --> 01:21:50.079
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, fuck, you were feeding the dogs

990
01:21:51.600 --> 01:21:55.720
<v Speaker 2>twenty or thirty minutes ago. And he said no, no,

991
01:21:56.119 --> 01:21:58.359
<v Speaker 2>He said I hadn't come out of the house and

992
01:21:58.560 --> 01:22:03.520
<v Speaker 2>you left the house. I was like, what they were, Miguel.

993
01:22:03.600 --> 01:22:09.960
<v Speaker 2>They were actually imitating his voice perfectly. It sounded just liking.

994
01:22:11.319 --> 01:22:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've heard that as well. My friend Adam said

995
01:22:14.760 --> 01:22:20.840
<v Speaker 1>that they were imitating his brother's kids one day and

996
01:22:20.880 --> 01:22:25.479
<v Speaker 1>his brother heard the voices and then realize, oh my gosh,

997
01:22:25.520 --> 01:22:29.000
<v Speaker 1>the kids aren't here and it sounded just like him.

998
01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:31.760
<v Speaker 1>He said. They said, hey, Dad, out in the woods.

999
01:22:34.680 --> 01:22:37.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And another time his daughter came running in the

1000
01:22:37.840 --> 01:22:44.319
<v Speaker 2>house and said, Hey, somebody's out there down in the

1001
01:22:44.359 --> 01:22:48.560
<v Speaker 2>woods asking for help. And we were like what, and

1002
01:22:48.600 --> 01:22:50.439
<v Speaker 2>she was like, yeah, I was down there at my

1003
01:22:50.560 --> 01:22:55.159
<v Speaker 2>swing and somebody's in the woods asking me to come

1004
01:22:55.239 --> 01:23:01.479
<v Speaker 2>help them. They were down there asking for help, help me. Wow,

1005
01:23:02.800 --> 01:23:06.680
<v Speaker 2>when we're off, we went out there. There was nothing there.

1006
01:23:06.880 --> 01:23:11.760
<v Speaker 2>And then you know, other times she came out and said,

1007
01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:22.319
<v Speaker 2>there's somebody done in the woods whistling at me. We're

1008
01:23:22.359 --> 01:23:26.760
<v Speaker 2>like whistling. She's like, yeah, whist they're whistling, you know,

1009
01:23:28.640 --> 01:23:34.079
<v Speaker 2>whistling at me. There was one night I was outside

1010
01:23:34.520 --> 01:23:46.239
<v Speaker 2>and I heard, uh, like a binging noise on metal.

1011
01:23:50.479 --> 01:23:56.039
<v Speaker 2>So I started walking back towards the creek and the dogs,

1012
01:23:57.319 --> 01:24:01.600
<v Speaker 2>and the dogs a couple of more barking, but it

1013
01:24:01.720 --> 01:24:03.960
<v Speaker 2>was like they were used to the sound or something,

1014
01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:07.439
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, what on earth is that. It

1015
01:24:07.600 --> 01:24:12.279
<v Speaker 2>sounded like somebody beaten on metal in the middle of

1016
01:24:12.319 --> 01:24:19.439
<v Speaker 2>the woods, and I'm thinking, there there's nothing metal down

1017
01:24:19.479 --> 01:24:22.039
<v Speaker 2>there in the woods. But it was definitely like a

1018
01:24:22.119 --> 01:24:28.920
<v Speaker 2>metal sound, like something was banging on metal loud, I mean,

1019
01:24:29.000 --> 01:24:34.680
<v Speaker 2>hitting it hard. So I came back and I told

1020
01:24:34.680 --> 01:24:38.960
<v Speaker 2>my son. I was like, Hey, there's something down there

1021
01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:45.680
<v Speaker 2>in the woods metaling and and they're down there banging

1022
01:24:45.760 --> 01:24:51.119
<v Speaker 2>on it. And he's like, Dad, ain't there's nothing down

1023
01:24:51.199 --> 01:24:55.239
<v Speaker 2>there that's metal. And I'm like, Okay, I'm telling you,

1024
01:24:55.399 --> 01:24:59.199
<v Speaker 2>I know the sound. They got something down their metal

1025
01:24:59.439 --> 01:25:06.880
<v Speaker 2>and there bea and on it. Well, the next day

1026
01:25:07.039 --> 01:25:14.199
<v Speaker 2>we go explore. We go down there the creek and

1027
01:25:14.239 --> 01:25:16.920
<v Speaker 2>we're looking all around. We drive across the other side

1028
01:25:16.920 --> 01:25:19.000
<v Speaker 2>of the pasture on the other side of the creek,

1029
01:25:19.039 --> 01:25:24.359
<v Speaker 2>and we're looking around everything and then can't find anything.

1030
01:25:24.600 --> 01:25:28.680
<v Speaker 2>And then we look on the one corner of this

1031
01:25:28.760 --> 01:25:33.840
<v Speaker 2>one fencil line and there's an old deer stand built

1032
01:25:33.840 --> 01:25:44.880
<v Speaker 2>out of galvanized aluminum. And that thing has been the aluminum,

1033
01:25:45.439 --> 01:25:48.159
<v Speaker 2>the galvanized still, I mean, has been beat to death.

1034
01:25:48.399 --> 01:25:53.640
<v Speaker 2>That's what they were hitting on. They were beaten on

1035
01:25:53.680 --> 01:25:58.920
<v Speaker 2>that deer stand with a stick or a limb or whatever,

1036
01:25:59.199 --> 01:26:03.239
<v Speaker 2>you know. That was a metal sound. That metal had

1037
01:26:03.239 --> 01:26:09.840
<v Speaker 2>been beaten to death. Wow. But we actually found what

1038
01:26:09.880 --> 01:26:13.479
<v Speaker 2>the sound was, which was cool.

1039
01:26:16.520 --> 01:26:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Usually people don't find the source to the metal banging,

1040
01:26:21.760 --> 01:26:25.279
<v Speaker 1>but in this case you were able to piece it together,

1041
01:26:25.439 --> 01:26:26.119
<v Speaker 1>which is good.

1042
01:26:27.880 --> 01:26:34.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, after well he stayed in the shop and

1043
01:26:34.319 --> 01:26:42.399
<v Speaker 2>after the you know, the deal with them imitating his voice,

1044
01:26:42.600 --> 01:26:47.319
<v Speaker 2>and the rest of the time we got, you know,

1045
01:26:47.399 --> 01:26:51.359
<v Speaker 2>my granddaughter's talking, having stuff going on with asking for

1046
01:26:51.479 --> 01:26:59.960
<v Speaker 2>help and whistling adder and all that different stuff. I'm

1047
01:27:00.159 --> 01:27:07.640
<v Speaker 2>in bad one night and I hear this loud boom

1048
01:27:07.680 --> 01:27:17.279
<v Speaker 2>on the other end of the house, and I mean

1049
01:27:17.319 --> 01:27:21.319
<v Speaker 2>I could tell something that hit the house. Boom, you know,

1050
01:27:23.520 --> 01:27:28.840
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, okay, And on that side of

1051
01:27:28.920 --> 01:27:31.640
<v Speaker 2>the house, we didn't have any lights or anything. And

1052
01:27:31.680 --> 01:27:37.319
<v Speaker 2>then I finally fell back asleep and then boom. It

1053
01:27:37.439 --> 01:27:41.159
<v Speaker 2>got to where it was doing this nightly banging on

1054
01:27:41.239 --> 01:27:47.520
<v Speaker 2>the side of the house down there. So we started

1055
01:27:47.600 --> 01:27:56.000
<v Speaker 2>leaving the porch light on and then heard of different always.

1056
01:27:56.039 --> 01:28:01.439
<v Speaker 2>One night it was like a thing, thing hitting the

1057
01:28:01.520 --> 01:28:09.399
<v Speaker 2>side of the house. And I told I told my son,

1058
01:28:09.479 --> 01:28:12.680
<v Speaker 2>I was like that it's something. It's like they're hitting

1059
01:28:12.680 --> 01:28:16.640
<v Speaker 2>the house with a metal stick or a metal piece

1060
01:28:16.680 --> 01:28:20.880
<v Speaker 2>of pipe or something. Well, we figured out they had

1061
01:28:20.920 --> 01:28:25.520
<v Speaker 2>this like a metal chair that's it's like a swinging

1062
01:28:25.600 --> 01:28:29.079
<v Speaker 2>chair that's built in it's got like a platform and

1063
01:28:29.159 --> 01:28:32.199
<v Speaker 2>it's got a hoop that comes over the top and

1064
01:28:32.239 --> 01:28:34.880
<v Speaker 2>it's got a swivel on top of it or whatever.

1065
01:28:35.239 --> 01:28:37.720
<v Speaker 2>And that was beside the house on that one end,

1066
01:28:38.319 --> 01:28:41.560
<v Speaker 2>and you can swing in it, you know. But it's

1067
01:28:41.600 --> 01:28:44.079
<v Speaker 2>what they were doing. They were taking that metal chair

1068
01:28:45.760 --> 01:28:49.399
<v Speaker 2>the in swinging it into the house. That's what I

1069
01:28:49.479 --> 01:28:56.800
<v Speaker 2>was hearing, the same into the house that they have

1070
01:28:56.920 --> 01:29:05.159
<v Speaker 2>been banging on or whatever. So they're coming up to

1071
01:29:05.239 --> 01:29:15.119
<v Speaker 2>the house, right And then I'm asleep one night and

1072
01:29:15.199 --> 01:29:19.840
<v Speaker 2>I hear a weird noise something, you know. It kind

1073
01:29:19.840 --> 01:29:25.359
<v Speaker 2>of woke me up. So I'm sitting there listening and

1074
01:29:25.399 --> 01:29:32.439
<v Speaker 2>then all of a sudden, I hear a sliding around,

1075
01:29:32.880 --> 01:29:41.359
<v Speaker 2>like a rolling around noise on the porch and it

1076
01:29:41.439 --> 01:29:46.000
<v Speaker 2>sounds like, you know, little castors rolling around the porch.

1077
01:29:46.039 --> 01:29:51.439
<v Speaker 2>And I'm thinking, what could that be. Well, we've been

1078
01:29:52.079 --> 01:29:56.680
<v Speaker 2>backing something up and we had an industrial power shop

1079
01:29:56.840 --> 01:30:02.439
<v Speaker 2>back on the porch, is what it was. Us. It

1080
01:30:02.600 --> 01:30:12.000
<v Speaker 2>was pushing that little industrial vacuum thing around and I

1081
01:30:12.039 --> 01:30:16.359
<v Speaker 2>was hearing those coasters on the concrete rolling around, and

1082
01:30:16.399 --> 01:30:19.319
<v Speaker 2>then all of a sudden it rolled it around for

1083
01:30:19.359 --> 01:30:26.560
<v Speaker 2>a little bit and then it went like from the

1084
01:30:26.640 --> 01:30:33.479
<v Speaker 2>Tim Allen Tuol Time show like the Curious Ape sound.

1085
01:30:41.159 --> 01:30:46.600
<v Speaker 2>Then I heard a loud thunk, so I jumped out

1086
01:30:46.600 --> 01:30:49.960
<v Speaker 2>of bed. I ran into the kitchen to the front door,

1087
01:30:51.520 --> 01:30:57.560
<v Speaker 2>and a storm was blowing in. Right as all that happened,

1088
01:30:57.560 --> 01:31:02.279
<v Speaker 2>A storm was blowing in, and I looked and there

1089
01:31:02.319 --> 01:31:04.800
<v Speaker 2>was an umbrella that we had had out there, and

1090
01:31:04.880 --> 01:31:07.479
<v Speaker 2>it was upside down beside the door, and it was

1091
01:31:07.520 --> 01:31:12.279
<v Speaker 2>full of water, upside down beside the door under the patio.

1092
01:31:14.239 --> 01:31:18.359
<v Speaker 2>There was no rain could get where that umbrella was at.

1093
01:31:18.960 --> 01:31:22.319
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't full of water. It had like an inch

1094
01:31:22.359 --> 01:31:26.680
<v Speaker 2>of water in it, like like it had gotten water

1095
01:31:26.760 --> 01:31:30.439
<v Speaker 2>in it from somewhere. And it was sitting there right

1096
01:31:30.479 --> 01:31:34.000
<v Speaker 2>by the door. And I looked down and there's wet

1097
01:31:34.039 --> 01:31:36.000
<v Speaker 2>footprints on the concrete.

1098
01:31:36.720 --> 01:31:38.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it was really close to the house.

1099
01:31:40.079 --> 01:31:41.439
<v Speaker 2>No, it was on the porch.

1100
01:31:42.000 --> 01:31:43.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, on the porch.

1101
01:31:44.640 --> 01:31:47.520
<v Speaker 2>And the weird thing is they were about my size foot,

1102
01:31:51.359 --> 01:31:56.279
<v Speaker 2>but the right foot had like an injury or a

1103
01:31:57.319 --> 01:32:02.479
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it looked like a human foot. I could

1104
01:32:02.479 --> 01:32:09.960
<v Speaker 2>see these wet footprints size of mine. One wouldn't excuse me.

1105
01:32:10.319 --> 01:32:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Injury, Yeah, sounds like juvenile activity. Yeah, mkay, So what

1106
01:32:26.720 --> 01:32:32.560
<v Speaker 1>other major things happened after that. We're getting short on time.

1107
01:32:32.680 --> 01:32:36.199
<v Speaker 1>But if you want to talk about just the biggest

1108
01:32:36.199 --> 01:32:38.600
<v Speaker 1>things that that's transpired.

1109
01:32:40.319 --> 01:32:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Now, that's about I mean, the the same thing that

1110
01:32:50.000 --> 01:32:56.279
<v Speaker 2>happened down there happened at my house in North Texas.

1111
01:32:57.760 --> 01:33:01.399
<v Speaker 2>I was sleep sleep in bed and I would hear

1112
01:33:01.560 --> 01:33:08.880
<v Speaker 2>like pounding in the living room on the door of

1113
01:33:08.960 --> 01:33:11.439
<v Speaker 2>the windows. I would it would wake me up out

1114
01:33:11.439 --> 01:33:18.279
<v Speaker 2>of here, like boom boom, And I finally was like,

1115
01:33:18.439 --> 01:33:25.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna figure out what this is. So I started

1116
01:33:25.079 --> 01:33:33.560
<v Speaker 2>sleeping on the couch. And then one night, uh hm, well,

1117
01:33:37.079 --> 01:33:39.560
<v Speaker 2>I forgot to tell you that I would leave the

1118
01:33:40.359 --> 01:33:44.520
<v Speaker 2>TV on in the living room at night a little volume,

1119
01:33:44.840 --> 01:33:48.000
<v Speaker 2>but just for background noise, because I have a ringing

1120
01:33:48.199 --> 01:33:55.039
<v Speaker 2>mayor tonight and it's like it's deathly quiet. It's it's

1121
01:33:55.079 --> 01:33:59.960
<v Speaker 2>annoying that ringing mayor. So I would leave the TV

1122
01:34:00.119 --> 01:34:03.159
<v Speaker 2>in the living room going at a low volume just

1123
01:34:03.279 --> 01:34:07.840
<v Speaker 2>to kind of block up the tonight it's ring and stuff.

1124
01:34:08.399 --> 01:34:15.479
<v Speaker 2>But I had keep I had heard things banging on

1125
01:34:15.560 --> 01:34:19.920
<v Speaker 2>the doors or the windows in the living room at

1126
01:34:20.000 --> 01:34:27.640
<v Speaker 2>night where the TV was going. So I decided to

1127
01:34:27.680 --> 01:34:31.680
<v Speaker 2>sleep on the couch. And then one night, I woke

1128
01:34:31.760 --> 01:34:34.239
<v Speaker 2>up and I was like, all right, something woke me up.

1129
01:34:36.880 --> 01:34:39.880
<v Speaker 2>And I sat up on the couch and I looked

1130
01:34:41.119 --> 01:34:45.479
<v Speaker 2>at my door, and I had like sidelight windows by

1131
01:34:45.560 --> 01:34:55.720
<v Speaker 2>my door, and I looked through my sidelight beside the door,

1132
01:34:56.800 --> 01:35:02.720
<v Speaker 2>and there's two huge eyes looking right at me. And

1133
01:35:02.800 --> 01:35:09.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm staring at it, and I'm like looking at it

1134
01:35:09.760 --> 01:35:13.960
<v Speaker 2>face to face, and I'm looking at it, and it's

1135
01:35:15.039 --> 01:35:21.840
<v Speaker 2>human eyes, human face what I could see of it,

1136
01:35:24.479 --> 01:35:30.920
<v Speaker 2>but the eyes seem further apart, but it was huge.

1137
01:35:31.239 --> 01:35:33.439
<v Speaker 2>And I'm sitting there staring at it, eye to eye,

1138
01:35:35.239 --> 01:35:38.279
<v Speaker 2>fifteen foot away, maybe twelve foot away, teen foot away,

1139
01:35:39.000 --> 01:35:45.319
<v Speaker 2>twelve foot and I'm staring at it, and it's staring

1140
01:35:45.359 --> 01:35:52.079
<v Speaker 2>at me, and the eyes have a look of I

1141
01:35:52.079 --> 01:36:05.640
<v Speaker 2>would say, not shocked, but like puzzled. Like the eyes

1142
01:36:05.680 --> 01:36:08.279
<v Speaker 2>looked at me like oh wow, the same look I

1143
01:36:08.439 --> 01:36:13.119
<v Speaker 2>probably had, like oh wow. And it was staring right

1144
01:36:13.159 --> 01:36:16.840
<v Speaker 2>at me, and then all of a sudden, it blinked

1145
01:36:16.880 --> 01:36:19.920
<v Speaker 2>its eyes. And as soon as those eyes blink, I

1146
01:36:20.079 --> 01:36:23.960
<v Speaker 2>jumped over the couch and ran to the front door,

1147
01:36:26.159 --> 01:36:29.000
<v Speaker 2>and at the same time turned on the porch light

1148
01:36:32.199 --> 01:36:37.520
<v Speaker 2>and opened the door. It was already it was gone,

1149
01:36:37.720 --> 01:36:40.800
<v Speaker 2>and there was some like dirty impressions on the porch

1150
01:36:41.560 --> 01:36:52.359
<v Speaker 2>around the door, but no definitive footprints. And I didn't

1151
01:36:52.359 --> 01:36:55.279
<v Speaker 2>hear it. Run all didn't hear anything like that. But

1152
01:36:56.800 --> 01:37:03.039
<v Speaker 2>from that point on, I started leaving the porch lights

1153
01:37:03.039 --> 01:37:12.119
<v Speaker 2>on the front and the bat So when I get

1154
01:37:12.199 --> 01:37:14.399
<v Speaker 2>up and go to work, it's dark in the morning,

1155
01:37:14.760 --> 01:37:17.159
<v Speaker 2>and my neighbors have never had their lights on. Two

1156
01:37:17.239 --> 01:37:24.279
<v Speaker 2>days later, my neighbors right next to me, they've got

1157
01:37:24.319 --> 01:37:30.640
<v Speaker 2>their ports lights on. Then a few days later, the

1158
01:37:30.720 --> 01:37:34.279
<v Speaker 2>other neighbors have their porch lights on. Within a week,

1159
01:37:34.800 --> 01:37:40.760
<v Speaker 2>every neighbor between me and town all have their porch

1160
01:37:40.920 --> 01:37:44.800
<v Speaker 2>lights on. Some of them have their yards lit up

1161
01:37:44.840 --> 01:37:50.880
<v Speaker 2>now like daylight with lights. It's crazy, never had them

1162
01:37:50.880 --> 01:37:51.479
<v Speaker 2>on before.

1163
01:37:54.039 --> 01:37:58.399
<v Speaker 1>Sounds like a lot of activity has followed you around

1164
01:37:58.439 --> 01:38:02.560
<v Speaker 1>in your life, and I can definitely relate and understand

1165
01:38:02.600 --> 01:38:04.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people are trying to make sense as

1166
01:38:04.760 --> 01:38:07.760
<v Speaker 1>to why that happens. A lot of hunters and individuals

1167
01:38:07.840 --> 01:38:12.520
<v Speaker 1>never have even one experience, but then certain people that

1168
01:38:12.600 --> 01:38:15.840
<v Speaker 1>experience activity continue having activity.

1169
01:38:18.239 --> 01:38:20.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and I forgot to tell you. One night

1170
01:38:21.039 --> 01:38:23.279
<v Speaker 2>I was down there, me and my daughter went to

1171
01:38:23.319 --> 01:38:30.680
<v Speaker 2>see my son and we were on the patio talking,

1172
01:38:30.760 --> 01:38:34.840
<v Speaker 2>hanging out and it was like drizzling rain. And I

1173
01:38:34.920 --> 01:38:37.560
<v Speaker 2>walked to the other end of the house, looking back

1174
01:38:38.239 --> 01:38:43.479
<v Speaker 2>down towards his shop where me and him were having

1175
01:38:43.479 --> 01:38:48.840
<v Speaker 2>the bigfoot stuff going on. And he had, because of

1176
01:38:48.880 --> 01:38:52.600
<v Speaker 2>all that activity, he had bought these big led I

1177
01:38:52.640 --> 01:38:59.600
<v Speaker 2>don't know. He light up the whole backyard looked like

1178
01:38:59.760 --> 01:39:05.560
<v Speaker 2>day light. He installed all these big led lights, so

1179
01:39:05.600 --> 01:39:08.399
<v Speaker 2>it was lit up down there where as dogs are at.

1180
01:39:09.720 --> 01:39:16.640
<v Speaker 2>And I walked around the corner of the house and

1181
01:39:16.760 --> 01:39:22.319
<v Speaker 2>I was just standing there looking down towards his dogs.

1182
01:39:22.359 --> 01:39:27.399
<v Speaker 2>And I just stood there, looking, just staring down there

1183
01:39:27.479 --> 01:39:31.399
<v Speaker 2>towards the dogs, and I didn't see anything. And I

1184
01:39:31.439 --> 01:39:36.960
<v Speaker 2>was looking in the woods, and I stared for a

1185
01:39:37.000 --> 01:39:44.239
<v Speaker 2>long time, probably a minute, maybe a little over a minute,

1186
01:39:44.439 --> 01:39:47.000
<v Speaker 2>and then all of a sudden, I saw this ten

1187
01:39:49.840 --> 01:39:58.039
<v Speaker 2>piece of hair, which I thought was probably six seven

1188
01:39:58.079 --> 01:40:02.640
<v Speaker 2>foot high, moved. It had been there the whole time,

1189
01:40:02.680 --> 01:40:05.439
<v Speaker 2>but I never saw it until it moved. And when

1190
01:40:05.439 --> 01:40:09.319
<v Speaker 2>it moved, it walked behind this one tree and walked

1191
01:40:09.319 --> 01:40:13.560
<v Speaker 2>behind another one and then just disappeared. And I ran back.

1192
01:40:13.640 --> 01:40:20.640
<v Speaker 2>I told him I just saw one. It was redshed

1193
01:40:20.680 --> 01:40:23.720
<v Speaker 2>tea colored, but it had been standing there the whole time,

1194
01:40:23.760 --> 01:40:25.399
<v Speaker 2>but it's like I had to stare at it a

1195
01:40:25.439 --> 01:40:28.439
<v Speaker 2>long time. I guess. I don't know if it saw

1196
01:40:28.479 --> 01:40:31.680
<v Speaker 2>me staring at it or if it just standing still there,

1197
01:40:31.920 --> 01:40:38.800
<v Speaker 2>but it finally walked off. And then I went back

1198
01:40:38.880 --> 01:40:41.720
<v Speaker 2>and told my son daughter. I said, I just saw

1199
01:40:41.760 --> 01:40:46.119
<v Speaker 2>one down there behind the dogs, and they were like really.

1200
01:40:46.199 --> 01:40:53.520
<v Speaker 2>I was like, yeah, for sure, and it was, you know, big,

1201
01:40:54.079 --> 01:40:58.840
<v Speaker 2>but didn't realize how big until the next day. Man

1202
01:40:58.880 --> 01:41:00.880
<v Speaker 2>my son went down there. There was a big dead

1203
01:41:00.960 --> 01:41:05.840
<v Speaker 2>tree that had fallen down, probably a thirty or forty

1204
01:41:05.960 --> 01:41:09.600
<v Speaker 2>inch dam of the tree along the ground, and it

1205
01:41:09.720 --> 01:41:15.199
<v Speaker 2>was standing behind it. So what I saw was probably

1206
01:41:15.239 --> 01:41:19.920
<v Speaker 2>eight or nine foot tall that walked off. It was big,

1207
01:41:20.720 --> 01:41:24.800
<v Speaker 2>bigger than what I thought. I walked around the end

1208
01:41:24.800 --> 01:41:27.319
<v Speaker 2>of the house, which the end of the house that

1209
01:41:27.399 --> 01:41:31.479
<v Speaker 2>I walked around had a light on, so it could

1210
01:41:31.520 --> 01:41:34.920
<v Speaker 2>have seen me. It could have been down there watching

1211
01:41:34.960 --> 01:41:38.399
<v Speaker 2>the dogs or whatever from the woods, but it could

1212
01:41:38.680 --> 01:41:41.359
<v Speaker 2>clearly have seen me come around the end of the house.

1213
01:41:44.279 --> 01:41:46.199
<v Speaker 2>And when I walked around the end of the house,

1214
01:41:46.479 --> 01:41:49.439
<v Speaker 2>I stepped into the dark. Before I did that, it

1215
01:41:49.479 --> 01:41:53.239
<v Speaker 2>could have seen me because of the light on the porch.

1216
01:41:53.319 --> 01:41:55.960
<v Speaker 2>It could have seen me come around the end of

1217
01:41:56.000 --> 01:42:00.239
<v Speaker 2>the house, so it was like it was what in

1218
01:42:00.239 --> 01:42:02.600
<v Speaker 2>the house or watching the dogs, and it saw me

1219
01:42:02.680 --> 01:42:05.520
<v Speaker 2>come around the inn. And then when I sit there

1220
01:42:06.239 --> 01:42:11.119
<v Speaker 2>watching it and didn't move, I watched it or look

1221
01:42:11.239 --> 01:42:13.680
<v Speaker 2>down there for over a minute and didn't see anything,

1222
01:42:13.800 --> 01:42:16.319
<v Speaker 2>and then it finally walked off.

1223
01:42:20.199 --> 01:42:27.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it sounds like they're more curious than anything. If

1224
01:42:27.439 --> 01:42:31.319
<v Speaker 1>it wanted to get you ahead. A lot of opportunities,

1225
01:42:31.399 --> 01:42:34.479
<v Speaker 1>even when they localized or came up and hit the truck.

1226
01:42:35.359 --> 01:42:40.720
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, they seem to just want to communicate, let

1227
01:42:40.800 --> 01:42:43.520
<v Speaker 1>us know that they're in the area, maybe break some limbs,

1228
01:42:43.760 --> 01:42:50.680
<v Speaker 1>push over some trees, and then move off.

1229
01:42:51.039 --> 01:42:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a big thing, pushing over trees. They like

1230
01:42:54.119 --> 01:43:04.960
<v Speaker 2>to do that. Yeah, and would knocks. Uh. Oh, I

1231
01:43:05.039 --> 01:43:08.880
<v Speaker 2>left that. I left that part out, Miguel. When we

1232
01:43:09.079 --> 01:43:12.079
<v Speaker 2>got down to the creek, the not the creek, but

1233
01:43:12.119 --> 01:43:16.239
<v Speaker 2>the ox bow by the rear where it was flooded

1234
01:43:16.279 --> 01:43:21.119
<v Speaker 2>and the fish started jumping after the tree got pushed

1235
01:43:21.119 --> 01:43:23.319
<v Speaker 2>over into the water. When we first got down there,

1236
01:43:23.439 --> 01:43:27.520
<v Speaker 2>my nephew he got a machete out and cut a

1237
01:43:27.520 --> 01:43:31.159
<v Speaker 2>big limb and we were we did. He was like

1238
01:43:31.920 --> 01:43:34.399
<v Speaker 2>beating the heck out of a tree doing wooden knocks.

1239
01:43:34.680 --> 01:43:39.479
<v Speaker 2>I forgot all about that before the Freddy Show. He

1240
01:43:39.640 --> 01:43:42.880
<v Speaker 2>was wearing that tree out, he was beating it. He

1241
01:43:42.920 --> 01:43:46.279
<v Speaker 2>was like, I was like, they don't, they don't do

1242
01:43:46.399 --> 01:43:51.920
<v Speaker 2>wooden knocks like that. Man, stop. But he kept on

1243
01:43:52.039 --> 01:43:55.119
<v Speaker 2>whipping on it, and I was like, you're gonna scare

1244
01:43:55.199 --> 01:43:58.000
<v Speaker 2>They're gonna know it's not real. You're gonna scare them off.

1245
01:43:58.520 --> 01:44:02.520
<v Speaker 2>I completely forgot about it that he had been beaten

1246
01:44:02.560 --> 01:44:03.399
<v Speaker 2>the heck out of a.

1247
01:44:03.359 --> 01:44:06.359
<v Speaker 1>Tree, so he potentially called them in.

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<v Speaker 2>With wood knocks. I don't know that he called them in.

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<v Speaker 2>They were there because as soon as we got down there,

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01:44:13.840 --> 01:44:19.399
<v Speaker 2>they pushed the tree into the water. But he definitely

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01:44:19.439 --> 01:44:20.439
<v Speaker 2>got them stirred up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, it definitely sounds like it.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never heard of anybody doing that. I mean, continually

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01:44:30.560 --> 01:44:33.439
<v Speaker 2>beaten on a tree, you know, making wood knocks like

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01:44:33.960 --> 01:44:37.680
<v Speaker 2>bam bam bam bam.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I typically hear the wood knocks like that right

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01:44:40.960 --> 01:44:44.159
<v Speaker 1>before they push over a big tree. I've heard that,

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01:44:44.800 --> 01:44:47.039
<v Speaker 1>I think three times in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want people to realize they're not apes or

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01:44:50.399 --> 01:44:57.520
<v Speaker 2>gorillas or monkeys, because they can imitate our voices perfectly.

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01:44:58.680 --> 01:45:03.399
<v Speaker 2>Apes and gorillas can't do that, and they are human.

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01:45:03.479 --> 01:45:09.039
<v Speaker 2>I've seen one's face. It was a human face. Maybe

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01:45:09.039 --> 01:45:11.279
<v Speaker 2>the only thing was the eyes are a little bit

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01:45:11.439 --> 01:45:14.399
<v Speaker 2>for their part than ours. I say that, but the

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01:45:14.479 --> 01:45:18.760
<v Speaker 2>face that it was so big. It's sort of but

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01:45:18.880 --> 01:45:21.239
<v Speaker 2>it seems like the eyes were spaced for their Apart

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01:45:21.319 --> 01:45:23.840
<v Speaker 2>from the nose, all I could see really was the

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01:45:23.920 --> 01:45:34.760
<v Speaker 2>eyes and the nose and the cheeks. But the eyes

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01:45:34.800 --> 01:45:43.319
<v Speaker 2>were human. No, they weren't. They weren't monsturize. They were

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01:45:43.399 --> 01:45:47.359
<v Speaker 2>human eyes. It was like a big giant human looking

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<v Speaker 2>at me through the window.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, they are very human like. Well, Gail, and

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<v Speaker 1>you did an excellent job at logging down the report,

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01:45:59.199 --> 01:46:03.039
<v Speaker 1>and I appreciate you for sharing all these experiences and

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01:46:03.079 --> 01:46:04.319
<v Speaker 1>the encounters that you've had.

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<v Speaker 2>You're welcome, man, Yeah.

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01:46:08.279 --> 01:46:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And if you run into these things again and

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01:46:11.920 --> 01:46:15.479
<v Speaker 1>something significant happens, definitely get a hold of me and

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<v Speaker 1>I would certainly like to hear about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I've had a lot going on for a long time,

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01:46:25.239 --> 01:46:29.359
<v Speaker 2>but I hadn't had anything going on lately since I've

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01:46:29.600 --> 01:46:31.720
<v Speaker 2>had my porch life. Soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, it was an absolute pleasure speaking with you,

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01:46:38.840 --> 01:46:42.199
<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna let you go, and yeah, if you

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01:46:42.239 --> 01:46:45.279
<v Speaker 1>think of anything else, definitely contact me and let me know.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Gail, thank you very much for sharing your

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01:46:48.800 --> 01:46:52.159
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot encounters and experiences from the state of Texas, and

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01:46:52.239 --> 01:46:55.640
<v Speaker 1>they were truly extraordinary to listen to. And I do

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01:46:55.760 --> 01:46:58.319
<v Speaker 1>believe that you are marked and tagged by these creatures

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01:46:58.399 --> 01:47:02.199
<v Speaker 1>and for some reason they follow you around from place

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01:47:02.239 --> 01:47:04.640
<v Speaker 1>to place. I mean, I would like to believe that

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01:47:04.680 --> 01:47:08.760
<v Speaker 1>these things are all over but I feel like for

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01:47:08.840 --> 01:47:12.359
<v Speaker 1>some reason they're trying to contact you and connect with you.

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01:47:12.560 --> 01:47:15.000
<v Speaker 1>But I could be wrong. Maybe they're sasquatch all over

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01:47:15.039 --> 01:47:18.960
<v Speaker 1>the place, but from my experiences, I don't feel like

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01:47:19.000 --> 01:47:21.760
<v Speaker 1>it was a coincidence. No matter where I went, I

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01:47:21.840 --> 01:47:24.600
<v Speaker 1>was having sasquatch activity. If that was the case, then

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01:47:24.640 --> 01:47:28.039
<v Speaker 1>other people would as well. And I've talked to many

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01:47:28.279 --> 01:47:31.600
<v Speaker 1>other guests that have been on the show who claimed

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01:47:31.600 --> 01:47:33.880
<v Speaker 1>the same thing, that no matter where they went, the

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01:47:33.960 --> 01:47:37.119
<v Speaker 1>sasquatch were there. And I feel like that is something

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01:47:37.199 --> 01:47:40.039
<v Speaker 1>supernatural because some of these areas are like thirty or

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01:47:40.039 --> 01:47:43.199
<v Speaker 1>forty minutes away, and even if they got your wind,

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01:47:43.359 --> 01:47:45.359
<v Speaker 1>they have your smell, Like I don't feel like they'd

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01:47:45.359 --> 01:47:47.479
<v Speaker 1>be able to follow you that far away, but maybe

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01:47:47.520 --> 01:47:51.680
<v Speaker 1>they can, and maybe some people just happen to stumble

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01:47:51.720 --> 01:47:55.920
<v Speaker 1>across activity no matter where they go. But yeah, I

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01:47:56.039 --> 01:48:00.279
<v Speaker 1>definitely believe you, Gale, and I apologize guys about the audio.

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01:48:00.439 --> 01:48:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, Gail had me on speakerphone and his quality,

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01:48:04.239 --> 01:48:06.720
<v Speaker 1>his audio quality sounded pretty good, but for some reason,

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01:48:06.760 --> 01:48:09.039
<v Speaker 1>when I would talk, it didn't sound very good. And

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01:48:09.119 --> 01:48:11.560
<v Speaker 1>I could have redone it on my end, but it

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01:48:11.680 --> 01:48:13.880
<v Speaker 1>just sounded too fake and generic, and I wanted it

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01:48:13.920 --> 01:48:17.640
<v Speaker 1>to be natural. So that's what we had to work with.

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01:48:17.720 --> 01:48:20.479
<v Speaker 1>And I think it's a good reference for people who

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01:48:20.640 --> 01:48:22.720
<v Speaker 1>want to go on a podcast in the future, whether

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01:48:22.760 --> 01:48:26.840
<v Speaker 1>it's on my show or somebody else's show, avoid using speakerphone.

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01:48:27.239 --> 01:48:29.840
<v Speaker 1>And if you've ever been put on speakerphone by somebody,

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01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:32.239
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't sound very good. You can hear things in

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01:48:32.279 --> 01:48:35.439
<v Speaker 1>the background and it echoes really bad, so just be

1321
01:48:35.560 --> 01:48:38.159
<v Speaker 1>mindful of that. If you, guys ever go on a show,

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01:48:38.279 --> 01:48:41.439
<v Speaker 1>have the phone up to your ear and it's much

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01:48:41.520 --> 01:48:43.840
<v Speaker 1>better audio quality with the phone up to your ear

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01:48:43.960 --> 01:48:47.600
<v Speaker 1>rather than using speakerphone. But yeah, it's not his fault

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01:48:47.680 --> 01:48:50.159
<v Speaker 1>and we just had to make it work. Because he

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01:48:50.199 --> 01:48:52.840
<v Speaker 1>couldn't hear me with the phone up to his ear

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01:48:52.880 --> 01:48:57.000
<v Speaker 1>for some reason. And yeah, I appreciate the report nonetheless,

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01:48:57.000 --> 01:48:59.319
<v Speaker 1>and I totally believe him. If there's somebody out there

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01:48:59.359 --> 01:49:02.560
<v Speaker 1>listening from Texas or anywhere in North America that's had

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01:49:02.560 --> 01:49:05.920
<v Speaker 1>a bigfoot encounter, definitely reach out to me. I would

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01:49:06.039 --> 01:49:09.439
<v Speaker 1>like to hear it, and I would very much appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Helps me with the research that I do out in

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01:49:11.520 --> 01:49:15.399
<v Speaker 1>the field, and it helps other people with similar experiences.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, guys, with all that being said, until the

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<v Speaker 1>next one, you guys, be safe out in the woods.