Speaker 1: Hey everyone, and welcome to Sasquatch Theory. Tonight's guest is
Speaker 1: Gail from Texas. Growing up around Lake Conroe and later
Speaker 1: spending years near the Sabine River, Gail found himself in
Speaker 1: areas that have carried strange stories and unexplained reports for generations.
Speaker 1: At first, he dismissed most of it as wildlife hunters
Speaker 1: or something ordinary in the woods, until experiences of his
Speaker 1: own began to make him question what was really out there.
Speaker 1: From the river bottoms and creek systems to remote timber
Speaker 1: and family properties, Gail has collected encounters spanning decades. I
Speaker 1: do want to say the audio quality is a little rough.
Speaker 1: And Gail had me on speakerphone, and I told him
Speaker 1: that speakerphone usually doesn't sound very good, but for some
Speaker 1: reason he couldn't hear me very well without being on speakerphone.
Speaker 1: So that's how it is, and we're just gonna roll
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Speaker 1: into our next Bigfoot report from the state of Texas.
Speaker 1: All right, today on the Sasquatch Theory podcast, we have
Speaker 1: Gail from the state of Texas. Gail, how are you
Speaker 1: doing today?
Speaker 2: I'm doing good, Maya.
Speaker 1: That's great to hear. Gail. If you would tell me
Speaker 1: a little bit about yourself, where you're from, and your
Speaker 1: experiences from the very beginning, please.
Speaker 2: All right. I've been in Texas my whole life, lived
Speaker 2: out of state a few times with work doing different things,
Speaker 2: but I was basically born and raised in Texas. I
Speaker 2: grew up when I was younger in Southeast Texas, and
Speaker 2: then when I was probably in the seventh after the
Speaker 2: end of the seventh grade, I moved to northeast Texas
Speaker 2: up closer to the you know, the Louisiana Texas line.
Speaker 1: Okay, and very good. And what was the first experience
Speaker 1: that you've ever had and if you could walk me
Speaker 1: through it?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, The first experience that I ever really had
Speaker 2: was me and my dad used to go fishing on
Speaker 2: Lake Conroe, which is outside of Euston, and we'd go
Speaker 2: almost every weekend, and then one weekend we went into
Speaker 2: our little gas station store there or whatever, and I
Speaker 2: was probably in the fifth grade, sixth grade, something like that,
Speaker 2: and an old man came in the store and said
Speaker 2: that a bigfoot had gotten one of his hogs, came
Speaker 2: into the pen, got in one of his hogs, and
Speaker 2: took off with it. And he was in there telling
Speaker 2: everybody that worked in the store about it, and he
Speaker 2: was trying to get people to go down there with him.
Speaker 2: He said, I got the foot prince in the sand.
Speaker 2: I can show you where it walked through. It's a
Speaker 2: real deal. And I was excited, and I was wanting
Speaker 2: my dad to go down there, and Dad's like, no,
Speaker 2: we're going fishing. We don't have time for that right now.
Speaker 2: And anyway, the guy was still going on about the
Speaker 2: bigfoot when me and my dad left and went fishing.
Speaker 2: And I really wanted to go down there and see
Speaker 2: what the guy wanted to show everybody, but we didn't
Speaker 2: went fishing. And years later this would come into play
Speaker 2: because my dad had told me as I was growing up,
Speaker 2: there's nothing to be scared of in the woods. Everything
Speaker 2: in the woods is scared of you. You don't need
Speaker 2: to be scared of anything, have any fear of anything
Speaker 2: in the woods. And then I didn't know it until
Speaker 2: I was in my late twenties. But my dad had
Speaker 2: went fishing on like Conrod one evening at he launched
Speaker 2: out of a public boat ramp and he said he
Speaker 2: was in this cove and he heard something off in
Speaker 2: the distance coming through the woods. It's all pine trees
Speaker 2: down there around like Conrod, and he was on a
Speaker 2: place called Canny Creek fishing and he said it was
Speaker 2: coming through the woods, and the closer guy he realized
Speaker 2: it was just like angry, you know, making growling sounds,
Speaker 2: breaking pine saplings and coming towards the edge of the
Speaker 2: water towards where he was fishing, and he was like,
Speaker 2: it was getting dark, and he kind of got unnerved
Speaker 2: and he took and went back to the boat ramp
Speaker 2: and loaded up the boat because where he was at
Speaker 2: wasn't that far from the boat up. But my dad
Speaker 2: grew up hunting fishing, and grew up in the country
Speaker 2: in the you know, out in the middle of nowhere,
Speaker 2: and he wasn't really scared of anything. But he said
Speaker 2: that that actually he knew that was something different for sure,
Speaker 2: and he loaded up his boat. Well, come to find out,
Speaker 2: that that had that when my dad had that happen
Speaker 2: on the lake. That was like two weeks before the
Speaker 2: old man came into the grocery, the gas station, grocery
Speaker 2: store deal there talking about the Bigfoot. So I asked Dad,
Speaker 2: I was like, why didn't you tell me? He was like,
Speaker 2: I simply didn't want you scared to be out in
Speaker 2: the woods. I didn't want it to you know, that's
Speaker 2: with your mind. I wanted you to grow up to
Speaker 2: be able to go out in the wood, to not
Speaker 2: be scared of anything. And that was, you know, when
Speaker 2: I was a kid. But he didn't tell me about
Speaker 2: what happened to him on the lake until I was,
Speaker 2: you know, in my late twenties. He kept it from
Speaker 2: me all those years simply because he didn't want me
Speaker 2: to be scared of going in the woods. So after
Speaker 2: I was in the seventh grade, like going on in
Speaker 2: the eighth grade, we moved up to northeast Texas and
Speaker 2: we moved to a town and a small town in
Speaker 2: East Texas, not far from the Sabine River and the creek.
Speaker 2: We had a creek about a half a mile from
Speaker 2: our house, and that creek actually runs into the Sabine river.
Speaker 2: But so I was probably thirteen fourteen something like that.
Speaker 2: From the time we moved up there, when I got
Speaker 2: out of school or during the summer, I was in
Speaker 2: that creek bottom. I mean every day, a lot of
Speaker 2: times until after dark. And the thing is, I've never
Speaker 2: carried a flashlight with me. I never really I'd go
Speaker 2: into the woods and i'd be coming out after dark.
Speaker 2: But if you know, it is even on a dark night,
Speaker 2: your eyes become adjusted, you can see. And I've never
Speaker 2: really had a flashlight with me. But I'd be down
Speaker 2: on the creek fishing or squirrel hunting or deer hunting
Speaker 2: or whatever. And there was a lot of times I
Speaker 2: would be coming out of the creek bottom and I
Speaker 2: could hear, you know, footsteps like paralleling me as I
Speaker 2: was leaving the woods head back on. It would it
Speaker 2: would be you know, sometimes I would walk, it would walk,
Speaker 2: I'd stop, it, it would stop. Other times I would hear
Speaker 2: deer in the woods. You know, I don't deer would
Speaker 2: sound like they sometimes they would blow or snore, you know,
Speaker 2: from hearing me. But those other times, I was like,
Speaker 2: I would just get creepy feeling. Sometimes I'd get scared
Speaker 2: and I like a dead tree off the ground or
Speaker 2: something and slam it into another tree to let it.
Speaker 2: No way, I'm a human, you know, you don't want
Speaker 2: to mess with me. It was just like this didn't
Speaker 2: sound like a deer. And that went on for a while,
Speaker 2: and then there were a lot of times I would
Speaker 2: be outside after dark, and I would hear wood knocks,
Speaker 2: you know, down back towards the creek, and I always
Speaker 2: I would hear them a lot. I mean a lot,
Speaker 2: and I always put it off in my head is like, oh,
Speaker 2: somebody's down there on you know, private land building a
Speaker 2: deer stand, so they don't want to get caught, so
Speaker 2: they're down there doing it at night. You know. I
Speaker 2: put the wood knocks off as to somebody building a
Speaker 2: deer stand at night. And I guess when I was
Speaker 2: probably fourteen or so, me and somebodies were going to
Speaker 2: go fishing down on the creek behind the dam of
Speaker 2: this lake, and there's we had a trail that went
Speaker 2: all the way back there, and we were going down
Speaker 2: the trail and we got probably two hundred yards maybe
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty yards from the dam, and I
Speaker 2: heard something weird like people arguing, and it sounded like
Speaker 2: Russians or Japanese or something it was, but it was
Speaker 2: loud and they were definitely arguing with each other, and
Speaker 2: the guys that I had with me, I was like,
Speaker 2: you know, I put my hand up for everybody to stop.
Speaker 2: We need to stop. And then we were listening and
Speaker 2: one guy that was with us, he started laughing because
Speaker 2: of the organ they were doing or what it sounded weird,
Speaker 2: and I was I put my finger up over my
Speaker 2: mouth to be quiet, and he kept laughing. I finally
Speaker 2: just grabbed him and covered his mouth, and I started
Speaker 2: pointing back down the trail that went back towards my house,
Speaker 2: and everybody kind of turned around while I started going
Speaker 2: the other way. I got out in front of everybody,
Speaker 2: and when I got up in a probably a couple
Speaker 2: of hundred yards from the road that that I lived
Speaker 2: off of, I just took off running and everybody was running.
Speaker 2: We finally got back to my house and I told
Speaker 2: my dad. I was like, Dad, there's Russians or Japanese
Speaker 2: behind the damn of the lake and they were arguing
Speaker 2: with each other, and that was a weird deal. And
Speaker 2: I didn't really think too much about it, you know,
Speaker 2: I was like, I let my dad know. And time
Speaker 2: went on, and then it was like I continually kept
Speaker 2: hearing wood knocks at night, and then h The first
Speaker 2: time I killed my first decent buck was not far
Speaker 2: from where we heard that you know, Russian Japanese stuff
Speaker 2: which I later found out was called samurai chatter or whatever.
Speaker 2: But but I shot the deer and then I found it,
Speaker 2: and I was excited. I just started yelling out, you know,
Speaker 2: hooping and hollering, yelling out top my lungs. And then
Speaker 2: as I was getting the deer, it got dark and
Speaker 2: I started hearing, you know, like sticks breaking around me
Speaker 2: and limbs breaking around me. As I was getting the deer,
Speaker 2: and I was what the heck? And at first I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: it's just deer, you know, And then I kept going on.
Speaker 2: It was like nine stop, and it kept getting closer
Speaker 2: and louder, and I finally just got to the point
Speaker 2: where it scared me so bad that I just shot
Speaker 2: my rifle into the ground. And after I got the
Speaker 2: deer gutted, I had to drag it back to the
Speaker 2: road that we lived off of. So I drug it
Speaker 2: back to the road. But the whole time I was
Speaker 2: dragging the deer back towards the road. It was like
Speaker 2: I could hear stuff breaking around me all the way back.
Speaker 2: And then as I got older, I'm trying to remember,
Speaker 2: I still heard wooden knocks, you know, all the time.
Speaker 2: Until I eventually left home. I heard wooden knocks down
Speaker 2: there in the creek bottom. And after I left hunting,
Speaker 2: you know, I started working and I went to college,
Speaker 2: junior college for a couple of years, and then I
Speaker 2: ended up getting a job in Arkansas, working at a
Speaker 2: steel mill as an electricians apprentice. And we lived in
Speaker 2: a town called Oceola, which is south of Blible and
Speaker 2: it's on the Mississippi River bottom. And me and a
Speaker 2: buddy we got off work one evening and we were
Speaker 2: just cruising around drinking beer, hanging out. And we went
Speaker 2: down in this bean bill and it got dark and
Speaker 2: we were out there just bs and hanging out. And
Speaker 2: after dark, we were sitting in this truck listening to radio,
Speaker 2: talking everything, and then something hit the truck. It felt
Speaker 2: like something ran into the truck, hit the truck hard,
Speaker 2: and then started shaking the truck, I mean shaking it hard.
Speaker 2: And we were sitting there and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: my God. And then finally I got out of the
Speaker 2: truck and looked, looked, ran around the bike, didn't see anything,
Speaker 2: looked around. It was we were one hundred yards from
Speaker 2: the woodline on the Mississippi River in that being filled,
Speaker 2: and you know, it was just a weird thing that happened.
Speaker 2: Didn't know what it was or how it got to
Speaker 2: the woodline within after or you know, shaking the truck,
Speaker 2: how it got to the woodline that fast, but it
Speaker 2: was gone. And then didn't didn't think anything about Bigfoot
Speaker 2: at that time. Really, I just thought, you know, it
Speaker 2: was it was just something crazy to happen. But what
Speaker 2: didn't have Bigfoot on my mind. And then I came
Speaker 2: back to Texas and got married and had a son,
Speaker 2: and then I ended up getting a divorce and I
Speaker 2: moved from East Texas to North Texas. And when I
Speaker 2: was in North Texas, I think my son was in
Speaker 2: I did not have Bigfoot on my radar at all.
Speaker 2: And then when I was in North Texas, I was
Speaker 2: with my son and we went to visit a buddy
Speaker 2: of mine and we drove to his house. He lived
Speaker 2: off this little canny road beside a creek, and we
Speaker 2: went up to his house. He wasn't there, so I
Speaker 2: left and as I was leaving got back on the
Speaker 2: county road, there was a big copperhead in the road,
Speaker 2: like maybe I ran over the copperhead because it wasn't
Speaker 2: there when when we went to my buddy's house. But
Speaker 2: when I was leaving, I saw this big dead copperhead
Speaker 2: in the road and I stopped it. It was dark,
Speaker 2: it was at night time, and I saw it and
Speaker 2: I had my I pulled my truck up there, had
Speaker 2: the headlights on it, and I got out of the
Speaker 2: truck and I went over there, and you know, trying
Speaker 2: to make sure that the snake was dead, and I
Speaker 2: wanted to get its skin. And I reached down and
Speaker 2: picked it up by the tail, and my son had
Speaker 2: gotten out on the passenger side. And when I picked
Speaker 2: a snake up by the tail, there was like a
Speaker 2: loud roar right beside my truck. Was kind of loud,
Speaker 2: but there was like a loud roar right beside my truck.
Speaker 2: And I was focused on being sure the snake was
Speaker 2: completely dead. And then my son ran around behind me
Speaker 2: and ran and jumped in on the driver's side of
Speaker 2: the truck, and I didn't think too much about it,
Speaker 2: and I got the snake and put it in the
Speaker 2: back of the truck and my son was in the
Speaker 2: truck and he was like, what was that, Dad? What
Speaker 2: was that that yelled? And I was like, ye ain't
Speaker 2: fooling me, boy, I thought it was him and he
Speaker 2: was like, no, that it wasn't me. It wasn't me.
Speaker 2: And I was like, that's crazy, and he's like yeah.
Speaker 2: So that happened. And then maybe a couple of years later,
Speaker 2: we had UH something going on, and I had uh
Speaker 2: a barbecue smoke or going and I'd had everything set
Speaker 2: up word barring the rest of the night. So I
Speaker 2: came in and went to bed, and then maybe three
Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning or so, something woke me up,
Speaker 2: and I sat up in bed, and I was sitting
Speaker 2: there thinking what I wonder what something woke me up?
Speaker 2: What woke me up? And then all of a sudden
Speaker 2: I heard a scream that you cannot explain. It started
Speaker 2: out it sounded like a bull bellowing, and then it
Speaker 2: went to like a human screaming, and then it tapered
Speaker 2: off at the end into this loud, monstrous roar, like
Speaker 2: a line or something I mean, and from the beginning
Speaker 2: to the end of this scream, I could feel it
Speaker 2: in my body, and it was probably fifteen twenty feet
Speaker 2: from my back porch from the way it sounded, but
Speaker 2: it was so loud that it was vibrating my body
Speaker 2: inside the house. And I jumped out of bed and
Speaker 2: I ran and looked out the back the back door.
Speaker 2: I didn't turn on the light. I didn't turn on
Speaker 2: my porch light because it was like kind of half
Speaker 2: lit from the moon. There was some light outside even
Speaker 2: though it was light time, and I didn't want it
Speaker 2: to run. I wanted to see it. I didn't want
Speaker 2: to I was brady for turn on the light. It
Speaker 2: would scare it off. So I opened the back door,
Speaker 2: and when I did, I could hear it running down
Speaker 2: across my little pasture there towards my little creek. And
Speaker 2: then I heard it like a I heard it actually
Speaker 2: jump the creek. And then I went down there the
Speaker 2: next day, you know, and kind of looked around. I
Speaker 2: saw an impression or something on the floor bank, but
Speaker 2: I couldn't make it out to be a definitive footprint,
Speaker 2: you know. And that that was all at my house
Speaker 2: in North Texas. But over the years, I started, uh,
Speaker 2: let me think. Oh, I had a cousin he went
Speaker 2: and talked in a long time and he wanted to
Speaker 2: go bear hunting in Alaska. So I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that'd be that'd be cool. So we went to Prince
Speaker 2: of Wales Island, and I think we were there a
Speaker 2: little bit too early. You know, they hadn't come out
Speaker 2: of hibernation give we We saw a couple of small
Speaker 2: bears or something, but I know one thing, and we
Speaker 2: went to this place that had these totem poles, and
Speaker 2: all those totem poles had some kind of bigfoot looking
Speaker 2: tin carved on them. I mean they had real animals,
Speaker 2: you know, you could tell ravens, fish, wolves, bears, but
Speaker 2: they definitely had a you know, a while man looking
Speaker 2: head carved on all of them did. And these were
Speaker 2: all old totem poles. But while we were there, we
Speaker 2: went into a gift shop or something that was a
Speaker 2: lady she probably was a transplant, but I asked her,
Speaker 2: I said, are there any bigfoots on this island? And
Speaker 2: she just kind of laughed and said, not that I'm
Speaker 2: aware of. But then years later I saw something on
Speaker 2: TV about where they called that Ape Island or something,
Speaker 2: because they found these trees that were actually stuck in
Speaker 2: the ground with the roof walls sticking up in the air,
Speaker 2: didn't have any They don't know all they were done.
Speaker 2: You know a show about bigfoot and it was on
Speaker 2: Prince of Wales Island, the island that I was seeing
Speaker 2: about where we saw the statues, I mean the totem
Speaker 2: poles that had the They definitely have bigfoot faces carved
Speaker 2: on their totem poles. They these these totem poles were old,
Speaker 2: but that's where that was at. But I'm just trying
Speaker 2: to relay the fact that, you know, bigfoots were on
Speaker 2: that island. And as soon as I saw those faces,
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's not a human face that those Indians
Speaker 2: were trying to you know, let people know that face
Speaker 2: on that totem pole is a big foot face.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. They definitely have all the animals
Speaker 1: that live in the area. And then you see this
Speaker 1: hairy man, wild man looking creature on the totem pole.
Speaker 1: So do you do you feel like the sasquatch followed
Speaker 1: you around from place to place. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you ever heard of people being marked or tagged by
Speaker 1: these creatures. What are your thoughts about that or do
Speaker 1: you just think it was a coincidence that they happen
Speaker 1: to be in other areas as well?
Speaker 2: Now it it's not a coincidence. Gonna go. My son
Speaker 2: says that there's something about me that attracts them. Because
Speaker 2: I'll get into this later, but he he lives in
Speaker 2: East Texas now, and uh, he doesn't live very far
Speaker 2: from the Sabine River. But when whenever I go down
Speaker 2: there to visiting, we definitely get a lot of activity.
Speaker 2: He he thinks that I somehow, you know, attract them
Speaker 2: or have have something going where. It's like he doesn't
Speaker 2: have very He's had a lot of stuff going on,
Speaker 2: but he said, when I'm there, definitely the level picks up,
Speaker 2: the level of activity picks up. But they're not They're
Speaker 2: not following us around, Miguel. They're everywhere. That's that's all
Speaker 2: it is to it. They're simply everywhere. They are everywhere
Speaker 2: there is water all across the United States, they are.
Speaker 2: They're everywhere. And I mean, if you're not in tune
Speaker 2: to what they do, you could, you know, completely ignore
Speaker 2: things happening all around you and not even realize what
Speaker 2: it is. But once you start looking into the subject
Speaker 2: and realize what they do, you know, the wooden knocks,
Speaker 2: the tree breaking, the whistles, the whooping, they imitating other
Speaker 2: animals and everything, and then then you realize they're there.
Speaker 2: You know, people just don't pay attention to that stuff.
Speaker 2: But they're everywhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, They're all over the place. I feel like they
Speaker 1: choose to interact with certain people for some reason. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if it's a smell of pheromone that we
Speaker 1: put off a vibe of frequency, but they definitely do
Speaker 1: interact with certain people and for some reason.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they you know, I've had a lot of stuff happen,
Speaker 2: but they they definitely are in probably every state in
Speaker 2: the United in the United States for sure, maybe except
Speaker 2: for a way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and what else happened to you?
Speaker 2: Well, I've had things happened. I've had little things happen
Speaker 2: in several different states, like the deal in Arkansas's was
Speaker 2: in ocl of the truck shaking deal. And then one
Speaker 2: time my daughter was she went to college in Florida,
Speaker 2: and we were going to visit her and we were
Speaker 2: going down the interstate and I saw some deer on
Speaker 2: the side of the road and all the interstates over there,
Speaker 2: they have these big high fences to I guess, keep
Speaker 2: deer off the highway, but they're like really high fences
Speaker 2: along the interstates going all through Florida. But I saw
Speaker 2: some deer standing beside, you know, feeding in the grass
Speaker 2: beside the interstate, and I looked at the headlights were
Speaker 2: shinting up ahead, and I looked and I saw two
Speaker 2: big glowing eyes space kind of far apart, and I knew.
Speaker 2: I knew instantly. I was like that that's not anything
Speaker 2: but a bigfoot. There's nothing that has eyes space that
Speaker 2: far apart, that are that big, you know. And as
Speaker 2: we got closer to it, it duck down, but I
Speaker 2: could kind of see like the outline of the head
Speaker 2: as it duck down, and he was in he was
Speaker 2: in a little ditch by a covert or a drain,
Speaker 2: and he was watching those deer right there beside the interstate.
Speaker 2: And then we were coming back from Florida, and that
Speaker 2: was just probably just as my daughter is enrolled, so
Speaker 2: it was probably the fall. I don't remember what year.
Speaker 2: It was, probably twenty seventeen or eighteen, but we were
Speaker 2: coming through Mississippi and I needed to use a restaurroom.
Speaker 2: So I saw a little road that turned out to
Speaker 2: the side, and I pulled up in that road and
Speaker 2: I got out and closed the door and went to
Speaker 2: the back of the car. And as soon as I
Speaker 2: closed that door, I heard a wook like a hundred
Speaker 2: yards south of me. And then after that whoo on
Speaker 2: the south side of me, on the other side of
Speaker 2: the road up north, probably two hundred and fifty three
Speaker 2: hundred yards away, those of wood not And that was
Speaker 2: just some I just randomly stopped in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 2: And this was probably two or three o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 2: you know, probably thirty forty miles south of Hattiesburg something
Speaker 2: like that, but not far from a from a little
Speaker 2: creek there. But I think that they're anywhere in every
Speaker 2: that there's water, if there's a creek or a river
Speaker 2: or whatever, they're they're there everywhere, even you know, even
Speaker 2: in you know, Arizona, New Mexico, places at desert, if
Speaker 2: there's water available, I think they lived there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that. And why do you
Speaker 1: think the creature came up to the truck and was
Speaker 1: shaking it and it hit your truck? What do you
Speaker 1: think it's intentions where you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when we were in Arkansas all that time, I
Speaker 2: think that it because back then we had uh this
Speaker 2: is like in the late eighties. Yeah, late eighties, and
Speaker 2: the stereo had had uh, like an amplifier and base,
Speaker 2: so it had like a thumping to it. The base
Speaker 2: back then would have you know, you could you could
Speaker 2: actually fill the base. Even with the radio turned down,
Speaker 2: you could fill the base would vibrate the truck. And
Speaker 2: even though we had it turned down low, I think
Speaker 2: that the base vibrating. I think it felt that base
Speaker 2: and it irritated or aggravated it or something. It felt
Speaker 2: that base something in the radio and it you know,
Speaker 2: that sound was irritating it, and it ran up there
Speaker 2: and hit the truck and then started shaking it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a very interesting theory, and it possibly could be.
Speaker 1: I could see how the base would upset this creature.
Speaker 1: And yeah, they'll definitely let you know if they're upset.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, we were one hundred yards from the
Speaker 2: tree line and we were in a bean filled in
Speaker 2: the Mississippi River bottom. But it was probably another few
Speaker 2: hundred yards from that tree line to the river to
Speaker 2: the actual river. There's like a big where we were at.
Speaker 2: There's like a big levee on the on the river
Speaker 2: where the tree lines at, and that there have been
Speaker 2: other sidings. I've looked it up. There have been other
Speaker 2: sidings right there on the river, right where we were at.
Speaker 2: Therefore that I know of. And as what I don't
Speaker 2: think people understand is that you see the sidings, and
Speaker 2: that's just the people that have reported them. A lot
Speaker 2: of people see things, have things happen, they don't ever
Speaker 2: report it, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it really does seem like these things follow the waterways.
Speaker 1: You mentioned that creek poured into the Sabine River, and
Speaker 1: I think they're going from the river falling falling the
Speaker 1: creek to where you were at.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they well, they lived there. They lived, They lived
Speaker 2: on that creek for sure. I mean a lot of
Speaker 2: times I would be down there and I would smell,
Speaker 2: you know, weird smells, and I heard wood knocks all
Speaker 2: the time. I mean all the time, from the time
Speaker 2: you know, I was in my teens, still left home.
Speaker 2: I would hear wooden knocks at night in the woods.
Speaker 2: I could just hearing down there knocking. I don't know
Speaker 2: why they were knocking. The wool was going on, but
Speaker 2: I heard them. I heard wood knocks my whole life,
Speaker 2: just didn't realize what they were.
Speaker 1: And what do you think the wooden knocks mean?
Speaker 2: Just I don't I know they're trying to tell each other.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're I think they I think
Speaker 2: they can communicate a lot with what the wooden knocks
Speaker 2: or what the wooden knocks communicate, you know, whether they're
Speaker 2: location or maybe they're hunting, you know, and letting each
Speaker 2: other know where they're at, or they can do something
Speaker 2: with the wooden knock to let them know which way
Speaker 2: that whatever they're the game they're after is going or whatever.
Speaker 2: I mean, what do you think they're doing.
Speaker 1: I think they're definitely communicating and possibly warning each other
Speaker 1: that there's people in the area. But also they're using
Speaker 1: a form of Morse code. And I've heard it before
Speaker 1: where it sounds like somebody's built than a cabin down
Speaker 1: in the woods, like around midnight, and I kind of
Speaker 1: thought the same, like there's got to be trespassers out
Speaker 1: there working on something, but it definitely sounded like knocks,
Speaker 1: but like they're hammering something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm and everything that I've ever dealt with. I mean,
Speaker 2: I've heard some weird long howls. It sounded like a big,
Speaker 2: giant wolf or something. But I've never I've never really
Speaker 2: seen anything that you know, led me to think that
Speaker 2: I was dealing with the wear a wolf or whatever.
Speaker 2: I mean, people are calling them dog men now, I guess,
Speaker 2: but not not too much with that, but definitely the
Speaker 2: bigfoot thing. I mean years later. Uh, even here where
Speaker 2: I'm at in North Texas, I've got a little less
Speaker 2: than twenty acres, but you know, me and my wife
Speaker 2: would go walking around a property and I had a
Speaker 2: little trail mode and we'd go and one evening we
Speaker 2: were walking the trail and the dogs were with us,
Speaker 2: following us. They would run around with us. And I
Speaker 2: had a blue tick hound and Mountain Curve and one
Speaker 2: of my blue ticks puppies that had a kid in
Speaker 2: it or something. And they ran out in front of
Speaker 2: us and they ran I've got a little dry creek
Speaker 2: that once see the property, and they ran into the
Speaker 2: woods ahead of us, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: they came running out of the woods like doing uh,
Speaker 2: you know, a weird aggressive bark, like like they were scared.
Speaker 2: It I mean, it was. It was crazy the way
Speaker 2: they were acting. They were scared, but they were you know,
Speaker 2: all the hair on their back was raised and they
Speaker 2: they were they did they wanted to let us know
Speaker 2: that there was something there, but they were scared to
Speaker 2: go after it. And my blue tick was normally pretty
Speaker 2: I mean, she would go after anything, but they would
Speaker 2: not go in there. They came back and got beside
Speaker 2: us and continued to bark. So we walked over there
Speaker 2: towards the creek and I heard some like footsteps. Great,
Speaker 2: there's some dead trees and stuff down in the creek.
Speaker 2: I heard like limbs break or something, and I told
Speaker 2: my wife, I was like, just let's just hold on
Speaker 2: here a minute. Somethings like walking in the creek. And
Speaker 2: then the dogs like got back behind us towards the pasture,
Speaker 2: and then me and her were standing there listening, and
Speaker 2: then there was a loud growl like, uh, I don't
Speaker 2: I don't know how to describe it. Really, it was
Speaker 2: just a loud growl, just like and as soon as
Speaker 2: it did that, it started snapping its teeth together really fast,
Speaker 2: like you could hear the actual teeth snapping together check,
Speaker 2: you know, like it was snapping its teeth at us.
Speaker 2: My wife she was she was like, let's get out
Speaker 2: of here. She got up beside me and she was like,
Speaker 2: let's get out of here. And the dogs didn't want
Speaker 2: anything to do with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like the dogs knew they were in
Speaker 1: the area and they were warning you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this this was in the evening before dark.
Speaker 2: This is like right at evening in town.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Did you ever run into the guy that was
Speaker 1: at the grocery store of the gas station that said
Speaker 1: there was a big foot that got into the hogpen?
Speaker 2: Did I ever know? I was no, I was a
Speaker 2: little kid.
Speaker 1: No, okay, I wasn't sure if you ever saw him
Speaker 1: a gun later on?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I was a little kid. This is
Speaker 2: on Lake Conroe where the guy came into the gas station.
Speaker 2: And then a couple a couple of years after that,
Speaker 2: we moved up closer to Longview in northeast Texas, but
Speaker 2: not that far from the Sabine River. The time we
Speaker 2: were in was like right by the river, and the
Speaker 2: creek that I lived on, not lived on, but was
Speaker 2: right by the house actually ran into the river, probably
Speaker 2: fifteen miles away. It ran into the river. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: were probably fifteen miles from the river, and that was
Speaker 2: the house where I grew up where we heard the
Speaker 2: you know, the samurai chatter behind the dam, and I
Speaker 2: had them surrounding me when I killed the deer that time.
Speaker 2: And then I was also every time I went in
Speaker 2: the woods and would come out after dark, I would
Speaker 2: get paralleled out of the woods. I mean it happened
Speaker 2: all the time. And I was in the woods every
Speaker 2: day after school during the summer out of school.
Speaker 1: It just happened a lot.
Speaker 2: But I really wouldn't thinking about Bigfoot, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and after all these experiences, what have you concluded
Speaker 1: about these creatures? And what do you think they are?
Speaker 2: Uh? I know what they are there. There are people,
Speaker 2: Miguel there, there's some kind of big, well hairy people.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Did you ever experience anything paranormal, supernatural down there,
Speaker 1: anything that you can't describe? Any strange lights anything like that.
Speaker 2: No, Now, I mean not involved in Bigfoot at all.
Speaker 2: But when I was growing up in East Texas, we
Speaker 2: saw we saw UFOs all the time, I mean crazy
Speaker 2: stuff at night. We lived on top of the hill.
Speaker 2: One man, we saw stuff that involve in UFOs that
Speaker 2: was like mine involving. Sometimes it was as many as
Speaker 2: you know, fifteen people that saw it at the same time,
Speaker 2: like one big light come down, fly along, drop down
Speaker 2: like a helicopter shooting beans, a light out, and then
Speaker 2: fly up into another big ball of light that came
Speaker 2: from space and zip into it, and then that thing
Speaker 2: would take off and be gone into outer space in
Speaker 2: a matter of seconds. I mean, we saw UFO stuff,
Speaker 2: but never never saw glowing orbs or anything like that.
Speaker 2: When I was doing with being out in the woods
Speaker 2: and having the bigfoot stuff going around me, it was
Speaker 2: just never saw the orbs or any of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and when you were gutting the deer, how close
Speaker 1: were the sasquatch to you.
Speaker 2: I would say probably fifty yards it was woods. But
Speaker 2: it started out like a little limb breaking, the twigt
Speaker 2: snapping eye. I thought it was deer, you know, curious
Speaker 2: they smelled the dead deer, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's just deer, you know. And I was putting that
Speaker 2: because and then it kept getting louder and more intense,
Speaker 2: and there was more limbs breaking on this side of me,
Speaker 2: and then it was like all around me, like I
Speaker 2: was surrounded and it was getting louder, like the limb
Speaker 2: breaking was getting louder, and I'm like, my gosh, what
Speaker 2: is that.
Speaker 1: Yeah? Do you think they were trying to warn you
Speaker 1: out of the area or they wanted the gut pile?
Speaker 2: Mm? I think maybe they were trying to intimidate me
Speaker 2: away from the deer. Like I think that. I think
Speaker 2: that they actually assimilate gunshots with a chance at a meal.
Speaker 2: Well you think, oh, they are a gun, it's gonna
Speaker 2: scare them. No, I think that's like a dinner bell form,
Speaker 2: Like they know there's a chance that they're going to
Speaker 2: get something, you know. I don't. I don't. I don't
Speaker 2: think gunfire intimidates them at all. I think when they
Speaker 2: hear a gun shoot, they think they got a chance
Speaker 2: at some battle organs or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they see it as an opportunity.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like you've had a lot of experiences,
Speaker 1: and I'm glad you contacted me because a lot of
Speaker 1: the things that you mentioned I've experienced myself, And yeah,
Speaker 1: I would agree with you. These things seem to be everywhere,
Speaker 1: especially around the creek bottoms and the big woods. Do
Speaker 1: you still go out in the woods looking for them?
Speaker 1: Do you ever try to find evidence. Do you have
Speaker 1: experiences to this day? How's everything going now?
Speaker 2: No? I mean really, yeah, Michael, I haven't even got started.
Speaker 2: This is just like a precursor.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you still have more to share. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's get into what else have you experienced?
Speaker 2: Yeah? A lot, a lot more. This is what everything
Speaker 2: I've told you so far is minor stuff compared to
Speaker 2: some things that we've had happened. So my son that
Speaker 2: lived in East Texas, he let me think he had
Speaker 2: something going on at his house. So me and my
Speaker 2: daughter and my nephew went to his house in East
Speaker 2: Texas and we were hanging out and I started talking
Speaker 2: about Bigfoot. And then right at dark, he lives on
Speaker 2: a creek. He lives on another that flows into the
Speaker 2: Sabine River, similar to what I did growing up. He
Speaker 2: lives on a small creek that goes into the river
Speaker 2: and probably a little bit shorter, probably six miles to
Speaker 2: the river, but not far from the river. And we
Speaker 2: were hanging out in the back yard and then right
Speaker 2: about dark, where does hog start? It just started squealing
Speaker 2: and it was I've never heard a hog, never never
Speaker 2: heard a hog like that squeal And squawl like that,
Speaker 2: and then it was almost like you could hear the
Speaker 2: life getting squeezed out of it. It was like squealing
Speaker 2: and hollering. And then it's slowly you could hear you
Speaker 2: could literally hear it getting the live squeal out of it.
Speaker 2: And I was like, there's nothing that can do that
Speaker 2: but a big foot. So that night, uh, my son,
Speaker 2: he had some side besides. We got on the side besides,
Speaker 2: and we went down this old oilfield road and we
Speaker 2: went back down towards the end of the property, but
Speaker 2: really not that far from the creek. And we set
Speaker 2: out to, you know, just see if we could hear
Speaker 2: anything or whatever. And we got down that old oil
Speaker 2: field site and we were walking around in the dark,
Speaker 2: looking around. And the weird thing was when we pulled up,
Speaker 2: there was a dough in a fawn standing out in
Speaker 2: the opening in the old field path and they were
Speaker 2: just kneeling around. They weren't scared of us at all.
Speaker 2: I guess they're used to old field trucks or something.
Speaker 2: But they didn't run or anything. They just kind of
Speaker 2: entered in the woods. And then after we'd been there
Speaker 2: about twenty minutes, we heard like a like a loud
Speaker 2: bleating like a deer and distress call it like, and
Speaker 2: it was the same thing with the hogs. It was
Speaker 2: like you could you could tell that the deer was
Speaker 2: getting killed from the way it was, you know, balling
Speaker 2: or whatever. It was the distress call. And we were
Speaker 2: walking around the old field site and then I walked
Speaker 2: to the back of this one corner of it and
Speaker 2: there was a dead, big, dead pine tree down and
Speaker 2: I could hear the winds breaking in there. I could
Speaker 2: tell something was stepping on the dead limbs in there.
Speaker 2: And I went back towards my kids and I told
Speaker 2: them I heard something walking back down in there behind,
Speaker 2: you know, or down where that pine tree was at.
Speaker 2: And then we were staying on the path, we heard
Speaker 2: a whoop on the other side, just a definite, clear whoop,
Speaker 2: like a bigfoot wool, you know wool. And we all
Speaker 2: were just standing there trying to listen to anything that
Speaker 2: was going on around us. And then we heard a
Speaker 2: noise behind us, and we walked over to the edge
Speaker 2: of the oilfield path and we're looking out in the
Speaker 2: woods and then we heard a like a like a
Speaker 2: grunt or growl kind of noise, and then you could
Speaker 2: hear like pine bark being knocked off the tree, like
Speaker 2: something was up in the pine tree. After the grunt
Speaker 2: growl sound, slid down the pine tree. You could hear
Speaker 2: it the bark sliding like a bear sliding out of
Speaker 2: the tree or something. Then we heard a thump where
Speaker 2: it hit the ground. Then we heard it again the
Speaker 2: same tree. It slid down the tree and then thump
Speaker 2: hit the ground. Locking like two young ones were up
Speaker 2: in the tree and the mom did a grunt growl
Speaker 2: thing telling them to get out of the tree, and
Speaker 2: they got like halfway down to the ground, and maybe
Speaker 2: when they were seven or eight feet off the ground
Speaker 2: from sliding down the tree, they jumped to the ground.
Speaker 2: You could hear them hit the ground boom boom, and
Speaker 2: then you could hear limbs breaking and stuff. So we
Speaker 2: stayed there trying to figure out that what was going on,
Speaker 2: and uh, everything just kind of quieted down, and we
Speaker 2: decided we were going to go down the river, and
Speaker 2: we walked back to the side besides and start them
Speaker 2: up and turn on the headlights. And when we did,
Speaker 2: the little fawn that we saw with its mom when
Speaker 2: we first got down there was wandering around on the
Speaker 2: edge of the old pad by itself. The mom was gone.
Speaker 2: You remember I said we heard the the deer bleep
Speaker 2: like it got killed. Yeah, well we we think what
Speaker 2: happened is those two went into the woods right there
Speaker 2: on the edge, and they were there and one of
Speaker 2: them grabbed the mom who killed it. And that's why
Speaker 2: the fawn was out there just wandering around looking for
Speaker 2: the mom. It was just out there by itself, wandering around.
Speaker 2: So we left there and we went down to the
Speaker 2: river and we got down the river. We were on
Speaker 2: the edge of like this Oxbow Lake and it's real
Speaker 2: swampy down there. It was flooded. Everything was flooded, and
Speaker 2: we had been just standing there listening for a little while.
Speaker 2: We weren't far from the world, you know, I mean
Speaker 2: maybe fifteen twenty foot from the water. But now I
Speaker 2: take that back. Right after we walked down and got
Speaker 2: by the water, we heard a tree get pushed over
Speaker 2: into the water made a big loud splash not long
Speaker 2: after we got down there. It just like crack and
Speaker 2: then slam. You could hear it in the water. So
Speaker 2: we were just standing there in the dark, talking and everything,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, the fish in the
Speaker 2: water just started like scurrant scrambling around getting up in
Speaker 2: shallow water, almost like they were trying to get up
Speaker 2: out of the water on the bank or something. All over,
Speaker 2: I mean everywhere, fish were running around in the shallow
Speaker 2: water like they were trying to get out of the water,
Speaker 2: just thinking what the heck. And we're standing there watching
Speaker 2: or you know, listening to the fish, and we could
Speaker 2: see the water splashing around where they were doing their thing.
Speaker 2: Something was scaring them. And then we heard a loud
Speaker 2: crack of a big tree breaking and then it hit
Speaker 2: the ground and it was probably fifty or sixty yards
Speaker 2: from us. It hit the ground, and when it did,
Speaker 2: you could feel it when the tree hit the ground.
Speaker 2: So this is a second tree. One got pushed in
Speaker 2: the water when we first got down there. And then
Speaker 2: after the fish deal, a big tree got pushed over
Speaker 2: and hit the ground. So we're all kind of standing
Speaker 2: there and shot. And then you hear some limbs breaking
Speaker 2: and stuff break, and like a Swiss noise in that
Speaker 2: tree that it got pushed to the ground got swung
Speaker 2: into another big tree, a live tree, and it broke
Speaker 2: that other the tree that got pushed over, it broke
Speaker 2: it again. You could hear it breaking like a bat.
Speaker 2: It picked it up off the ground and broke it
Speaker 2: like a bat into the other tree. And right after
Speaker 2: that happened, it yelled cool. So it was so loud.
Speaker 2: It was so loud that it was like it penetrated
Speaker 2: your soul. Your whole body vibrated. That's how lad it was.
Speaker 1: So what do you think it was trying to say?
Speaker 1: Was it like a language or more?
Speaker 2: No, it wasn't. Nov It was like it was yelling
Speaker 2: out a man's name, Freddy, Like my name is Freddy.
Speaker 2: But it was loud, long and bold. M But whatever
Speaker 2: this bigfoot had herd or been around or whatever, it
Speaker 2: definitely was yelling out Freddy loud and long. It was
Speaker 2: repeating a name that it had heard before. Now this
Speaker 2: is after knocked the big tree over and swung it
Speaker 2: like about into the other one. And I don't know
Speaker 2: how long after that, but we were standing there and
Speaker 2: I was like trying to shine a light, turned on
Speaker 2: the flashlight finally, and was trying to stand the light
Speaker 2: to see if we could see anything. I couldn't see
Speaker 2: anything but woods. When when that happened, Miguel, my eyes
Speaker 2: teared up instantly, I literally had tears pouring down my face,
Speaker 2: coming up my eyes just like I was crying, but
Speaker 2: not I wasn't crying, but it scared me so bad
Speaker 2: that my eyes started watering after the Freddy deal, and
Speaker 2: then I shined the light on my kids and my
Speaker 2: nephew and all their eyes were watering too, I mean,
Speaker 2: just tears pouring down their face, like running down. And
Speaker 2: then from the from the other end of the we
Speaker 2: were by ox Bow Lake that was flooded, so it
Speaker 2: was real like a swamp. Really h we heard might
Speaker 2: right night night, Mike, why I and this it was loud,
Speaker 2: and this was, you know, a quarter of a mile
Speaker 2: away from us, from the other end of the deal,
Speaker 2: the laate dogsbor. So we're all standing there in shock,
Speaker 2: and then we start hearing whimbs breaking, you know, thirty
Speaker 2: forty yards from us on the other side of us,
Speaker 2: intentional limbrace you know, smack crack, and I mean we
Speaker 2: had a gun with us, but it was like it
Speaker 2: was it was crazy. It was just crazy. We we
Speaker 2: were standing there, you know, in shock, and we were
Speaker 2: we finally just said let's just go, and as we
Speaker 2: were leaving, I've never been scared of, you know, something
Speaker 2: to grab me. But to be honest, as we were leaving,
Speaker 2: even though I was on that side beside I was,
Speaker 2: I was like thinking, wow, you know, I don't I
Speaker 2: don't even want to be down here.
Speaker 1: So it scared you pretty bad. I can only imagine
Speaker 1: after hearing those big trees getting pushed over and this
Speaker 1: creature trying to say someone's name.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it it was a definitely yelling someone's mind all
Speaker 2: I mean really, it was loud and clear, and I
Speaker 2: don't maybe it'd a been down there hurt guys on
Speaker 2: the oil site working and heard some guy say Freddy
Speaker 2: or something before, but it Dancer yelled out Freddy long
Speaker 2: and hard, I mean, body vibrating, loud and hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it is scary.
Speaker 2: Have you ever heard of him doing that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I've heard of people saying that the creature
Speaker 1: said their name. My friend Bill and the Mark Twain
Speaker 1: National Forest here in Missouri said the creature said his
Speaker 1: name from the woods and it was like a very
Speaker 1: low voice, and it's scary and pretty bad. I asked them,
Speaker 1: did they possibly hear you say your name when you
Speaker 1: called your wife? He said no, no, there's no way
Speaker 1: it could have known my.
Speaker 2: Name, Yeah, Miguel. They can imitate or they can imitate
Speaker 2: anything they can hear, and they can replicate English perfectly,
Speaker 2: even almost to the tone of your voice. I know
Speaker 2: that for a fact.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And the second one you heard, was it what
Speaker 1: did it say? Did it say Mike?
Speaker 2: It was like Mike, not not that clear. It was
Speaker 2: like more like Mike Mark, what Mike Mark? And it
Speaker 2: was yelling it loud, over and over and over. Wow,
Speaker 2: Like it was yelling Mike. But it was like someone
Speaker 2: on a PA system at a football game or something,
Speaker 2: and it was it was probably a fob. It was
Speaker 2: on the other end of the the flooded oxbow late
Speaker 2: probably you know, four hundred yards away, maybe five. It
Speaker 2: was long ways away. But it was loud, loud, loud.
Speaker 2: Not not as loud as the Freddy stuff, but it
Speaker 2: was loud.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is scary. What else unfolded after.
Speaker 2: This, Well, we went we went back home, and you know,
Speaker 2: had a story for the rest of our lives. And then, uh,
Speaker 2: when that happened, my son was actually living up a
Speaker 2: little bit further down the road, but then he got
Speaker 2: a house that was actually at the back of the property,
Speaker 2: closer to the creek, like only a few hundred yards
Speaker 2: from the creek. And when he moved into that house
Speaker 2: is uh, that's when no stuff really started happening. When
Speaker 2: he when he got closer to the creek at the
Speaker 2: back of the property. Uh. When he first moved down there,
Speaker 2: he had some dogs. He was raising dogs, and uh,
Speaker 2: his dogs would always be barking. He had I don't know,
Speaker 2: he had several dogs, but his dogs would they were
Speaker 2: down there by the creek, and they would bark at
Speaker 2: night and everything. And then one night he was down
Speaker 2: there feeding them, and he said that he heard something
Speaker 2: in the woods. And he walked over there and was,
Speaker 2: you know, standing still right beside the woods, not far
Speaker 2: from the creek, and he said, heard a like a
Speaker 2: weird wishing noise, like something going through the air like oh,
Speaker 2: and then he said, all of a sudden, a big
Speaker 2: tree hit another tree like like it was. He said
Speaker 2: it was like something picked up up, you know, a
Speaker 2: tree twelve inches in diameter and swung it into another
Speaker 2: tree like a bat. And he said it scared he
Speaker 2: had he had a pistol with him. It scared him
Speaker 2: so bad that he just like picked up his shoulder.
Speaker 2: He got his pistol out, picked up his shoulder to
Speaker 2: cover his ear, and then he fired off a couple
Speaker 2: of shots towards it. He put his shoulder up to
Speaker 2: his ear to block his ear from the sound of
Speaker 2: the pistol. You know what I'm talking.
Speaker 1: Out It sounds like they were really mad that he
Speaker 1: was in the area.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were probably mad about the dogs being there,
Speaker 2: because the dogs there had never been dogs down there,
Speaker 2: and now they got dogs right there by their running ground,
Speaker 2: you know, on the tree.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, I would think so they definitely sounded upset.
Speaker 1: And what did your son do after that?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, he already he had already been through
Speaker 2: all the big he knew what it was. He knew
Speaker 2: it was big foot, you know, he'd already been through everything.
Speaker 2: He'd already you know, experienced a freendything and all the
Speaker 2: rest of that stuff. Plus when he was a little kid,
Speaker 2: the thing that yelled when we picked up the snake
Speaker 2: when he was a little kid, you know, so he
Speaker 2: knew they were real already. But then as he started
Speaker 2: living there longer, he would hear things, you know, he
Speaker 2: would hear different noises. And his daughter, she was you know, young,
Speaker 2: I mean she would get out of bed at night
Speaker 2: and come and get in bed with him and saying
Speaker 2: that she didn't want to sleep in the room. She
Speaker 2: was scared. But anyway, as she was getting older, you know,
Speaker 2: she kept doing that. If she was growing, she didn't
Speaker 2: want to sleep in her bedroom. And then I came
Speaker 2: down there one time and stayed with him. And when
Speaker 2: I got there, we heard different stuff, and we'd be
Speaker 2: down as barn at night. We did. We heard different things.
Speaker 2: But I was talking to my granddaughter and she she
Speaker 2: told me that the reason she didn't want to sleep
Speaker 2: in her room was because the bear man would come
Speaker 2: and watch her through a window.
Speaker 1: Do you think she was referring to bigfoot or something else?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, no, it had to have
Speaker 2: been a big foot. What what else is a bear man?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah, Well, like you said earlier about like werewolves,
Speaker 1: and there's gugways, which is a little like kind of
Speaker 1: like bigfoot and dog man combined in one. People described
Speaker 1: it like like a bear head, basically like sasquatch body,
Speaker 1: but it had a head like a head similar to
Speaker 1: like a grizzly bear. But yeah, most likely bigfoot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the bigfoots were coming up there at
Speaker 2: night watching her through the window. So I was there
Speaker 2: withing and trying them. I'm thinking, Uh. We decided we
Speaker 2: were gonna camp out in his barn. One night we
Speaker 2: had been hearing noises. Uh. One night we had a
Speaker 2: big campfire going in the backyard between his house and
Speaker 2: the creek, and then him were out there just talking
Speaker 2: and laughing. And then the next night I was in
Speaker 2: the kitchen, uh, doing dishes or cooking something, I don't remember.
Speaker 2: I had the kitchen window open, and I I could
Speaker 2: hear them running down the creek imitating our labs, like
Speaker 2: a loud, cackling laugh, like they were making front of us,
Speaker 2: like they were down there listening to us when we
Speaker 2: were around the campfire laughing, and they were. They were
Speaker 2: laughing as they ran down the creek. I could hear
Speaker 2: it plain as day, like a like a imitating tape
Speaker 2: kind of making fun of us kind of thing or something.
Speaker 2: But it was loud and they were laughing, similar to
Speaker 2: what we were around the campfire. But anyway, we decided
Speaker 2: to camp out down there in the barn, which is
Speaker 2: close to the creek, and he had these big box fans,
Speaker 2: so we put these big box fans on across the
Speaker 2: opening on the back of the garage of the shop
Speaker 2: it's really a shop. We put these big box fans over.
Speaker 2: They had big steel gratings on them and everything, and
Speaker 2: then we brought the garage door down to the top
Speaker 2: of the box fans and we set up a tent
Speaker 2: and a cot in there, just to see what would happen.
Speaker 2: And then something woke us up and you could just
Speaker 2: smell this stench smelled like mud. It was just like
Speaker 2: a but it had a stink to it. It smelled
Speaker 2: like the mud. From down there, close to the curtain,
Speaker 2: you could it was overwhelming, though. It was just so
Speaker 2: they were up there investigating, and then I fell back
Speaker 2: asleep and I heard a weird like a metallic sound
Speaker 2: or something sliding or something, and I was sitting there listening.
Speaker 2: I heard it for a second, and then I heard
Speaker 2: it again, and I was like, on Earth is that noise?
Speaker 2: So eventually I fell back to sleep, and then my
Speaker 2: son he woke me up and he was like, did
Speaker 2: you hear that? And I was like, no, No, I
Speaker 2: didn't hear anything. And he's like yeah, He's like, something
Speaker 2: woke me up, and he said, I set up, and
Speaker 2: he's like, when I did, he said, I heard something
Speaker 2: take off, running like back down towards the creek. But
Speaker 2: I could actually hear the feet hitting the ground. And
Speaker 2: he's like, it was by feedal two feet. But he's like,
Speaker 2: I've never heard feet move that fast in my life.
Speaker 2: It was like somebody hitting the drum ba ba b
Speaker 2: b blah by bay it was and so fast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he could hear the footsteps. I've heard that
Speaker 1: a lot in the reports.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm like a little one, like a like
Speaker 2: a young one running no wow, not not like big
Speaker 2: long strides boom boom boom boom boom, but like just
Speaker 2: like he said, like a sprinter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very well, could have been a young one running away.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And this was, you know, all all this stuff
Speaker 2: is going on within you know, probably a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: So that I was a and then uh h, the
Speaker 2: the laughing. Oh yeah. And then and then another night, Uh,
Speaker 2: I was down at the shop and he had uh
Speaker 2: he has like a little tackle bait and tackle room
Speaker 2: where he keeps all his fish and stuff. And I
Speaker 2: was don there and it was I don't remember what
Speaker 2: time of night it was. It was later at night though,
Speaker 2: and I heard him feeding the dogs. I heard him.
Speaker 2: He's he goes in there, you know, he's talking to
Speaker 2: his dogs when he's feeding him. And it was like
Speaker 2: he has this deal where he says, oh, that's a
Speaker 2: good boy, Oh that's a good boy when he's feeding them.
Speaker 2: And so I walked. I walked out of the tackle
Speaker 2: room and I started looking around, like backwards dogs were
Speaker 2: at and I didn't see flashlight or anything. I was like,
Speaker 2: I didn't think much about it, and then I went
Speaker 2: back in there, and then I don't know, twenty thirty
Speaker 2: minutes later, he came down. I was like, yeah, what's
Speaker 2: going on. He's like, I'm going to feed the dogs.
Speaker 2: And I was like, fuck, you were feeding the dogs
Speaker 2: twenty or thirty minutes ago. And he said no, no,
Speaker 2: He said I hadn't come out of the house and
Speaker 2: you left the house. I was like, what they were, Miguel.
Speaker 2: They were actually imitating his voice perfectly. It sounded just liking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard that as well. My friend Adam said
Speaker 1: that they were imitating his brother's kids one day and
Speaker 1: his brother heard the voices and then realize, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: the kids aren't here and it sounded just like him.
Speaker 1: He said. They said, hey, Dad, out in the woods.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And another time his daughter came running in the
Speaker 2: house and said, Hey, somebody's out there down in the
Speaker 2: woods asking for help. And we were like what, and
Speaker 2: she was like, yeah, I was down there at my
Speaker 2: swing and somebody's in the woods asking me to come
Speaker 2: help them. They were down there asking for help, help me. Wow,
Speaker 2: when we're off, we went out there. There was nothing there.
Speaker 2: And then you know, other times she came out and said,
Speaker 2: there's somebody done in the woods whistling at me. We're
Speaker 2: like whistling. She's like, yeah, whist they're whistling, you know,
Speaker 2: whistling at me. There was one night I was outside
Speaker 2: and I heard, uh, like a binging noise on metal.
Speaker 2: So I started walking back towards the creek and the dogs,
Speaker 2: and the dogs a couple of more barking, but it
Speaker 2: was like they were used to the sound or something,
Speaker 2: and I was like, what on earth is that. It
Speaker 2: sounded like somebody beaten on metal in the middle of
Speaker 2: the woods, and I'm thinking, there there's nothing metal down
Speaker 2: there in the woods. But it was definitely like a
Speaker 2: metal sound, like something was banging on metal loud, I mean,
Speaker 2: hitting it hard. So I came back and I told
Speaker 2: my son. I was like, Hey, there's something down there
Speaker 2: in the woods metaling and and they're down there banging
Speaker 2: on it. And he's like, Dad, ain't there's nothing down
Speaker 2: there that's metal. And I'm like, Okay, I'm telling you,
Speaker 2: I know the sound. They got something down their metal
Speaker 2: and there bea and on it. Well, the next day
Speaker 2: we go explore. We go down there the creek and
Speaker 2: we're looking all around. We drive across the other side
Speaker 2: of the pasture on the other side of the creek,
Speaker 2: and we're looking around everything and then can't find anything.
Speaker 2: And then we look on the one corner of this
Speaker 2: one fencil line and there's an old deer stand built
Speaker 2: out of galvanized aluminum. And that thing has been the aluminum,
Speaker 2: the galvanized still, I mean, has been beat to death.
Speaker 2: That's what they were hitting on. They were beaten on
Speaker 2: that deer stand with a stick or a limb or whatever,
Speaker 2: you know. That was a metal sound. That metal had
Speaker 2: been beaten to death. Wow. But we actually found what
Speaker 2: the sound was, which was cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Usually people don't find the source to the metal banging,
Speaker 1: but in this case you were able to piece it together,
Speaker 1: which is good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, after well he stayed in the shop and
Speaker 2: after the you know, the deal with them imitating his voice,
Speaker 2: and the rest of the time we got, you know,
Speaker 2: my granddaughter's talking, having stuff going on with asking for
Speaker 2: help and whistling adder and all that different stuff. I'm
Speaker 2: in bad one night and I hear this loud boom
Speaker 2: on the other end of the house, and I mean
Speaker 2: I could tell something that hit the house. Boom, you know,
Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, And on that side of
Speaker 2: the house, we didn't have any lights or anything. And
Speaker 2: then I finally fell back asleep and then boom. It
Speaker 2: got to where it was doing this nightly banging on
Speaker 2: the side of the house down there. So we started
Speaker 2: leaving the porch light on and then heard of different always.
Speaker 2: One night it was like a thing, thing hitting the
Speaker 2: side of the house. And I told I told my son,
Speaker 2: I was like that it's something. It's like they're hitting
Speaker 2: the house with a metal stick or a metal piece
Speaker 2: of pipe or something. Well, we figured out they had
Speaker 2: this like a metal chair that's it's like a swinging
Speaker 2: chair that's built in it's got like a platform and
Speaker 2: it's got a hoop that comes over the top and
Speaker 2: it's got a swivel on top of it or whatever.
Speaker 2: And that was beside the house on that one end,
Speaker 2: and you can swing in it, you know. But it's
Speaker 2: what they were doing. They were taking that metal chair
Speaker 2: the in swinging it into the house. That's what I
Speaker 2: was hearing, the same into the house that they have
Speaker 2: been banging on or whatever. So they're coming up to
Speaker 2: the house, right And then I'm asleep one night and
Speaker 2: I hear a weird noise something, you know. It kind
Speaker 2: of woke me up. So I'm sitting there listening and
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, I hear a sliding around,
Speaker 2: like a rolling around noise on the porch and it
Speaker 2: sounds like, you know, little castors rolling around the porch.
Speaker 2: And I'm thinking, what could that be. Well, we've been
Speaker 2: backing something up and we had an industrial power shop
Speaker 2: back on the porch, is what it was. Us. It
Speaker 2: was pushing that little industrial vacuum thing around and I
Speaker 2: was hearing those coasters on the concrete rolling around, and
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden it rolled it around for
Speaker 2: a little bit and then it went like from the
Speaker 2: Tim Allen Tuol Time show like the Curious Ape sound.
Speaker 2: Then I heard a loud thunk, so I jumped out
Speaker 2: of bed. I ran into the kitchen to the front door,
Speaker 2: and a storm was blowing in. Right as all that happened,
Speaker 2: A storm was blowing in, and I looked and there
Speaker 2: was an umbrella that we had had out there, and
Speaker 2: it was upside down beside the door, and it was
Speaker 2: full of water, upside down beside the door under the patio.
Speaker 2: There was no rain could get where that umbrella was at.
Speaker 2: It wasn't full of water. It had like an inch
Speaker 2: of water in it, like like it had gotten water
Speaker 2: in it from somewhere. And it was sitting there right
Speaker 2: by the door. And I looked down and there's wet
Speaker 2: footprints on the concrete.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it was really close to the house.
Speaker 2: No, it was on the porch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, on the porch.
Speaker 2: And the weird thing is they were about my size foot,
Speaker 2: but the right foot had like an injury or a
Speaker 2: I mean, it looked like a human foot. I could
Speaker 2: see these wet footprints size of mine. One wouldn't excuse me.
Speaker 1: Injury, Yeah, sounds like juvenile activity. Yeah, mkay, So what
Speaker 1: other major things happened after that. We're getting short on time.
Speaker 1: But if you want to talk about just the biggest
Speaker 1: things that that's transpired.
Speaker 2: Now, that's about I mean, the the same thing that
Speaker 2: happened down there happened at my house in North Texas.
Speaker 2: I was sleep sleep in bed and I would hear
Speaker 2: like pounding in the living room on the door of
Speaker 2: the windows. I would it would wake me up out
Speaker 2: of here, like boom boom, And I finally was like,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna figure out what this is. So I started
Speaker 2: sleeping on the couch. And then one night, uh hm, well,
Speaker 2: I forgot to tell you that I would leave the
Speaker 2: TV on in the living room at night a little volume,
Speaker 2: but just for background noise, because I have a ringing
Speaker 2: mayor tonight and it's like it's deathly quiet. It's it's
Speaker 2: annoying that ringing mayor. So I would leave the TV
Speaker 2: in the living room going at a low volume just
Speaker 2: to kind of block up the tonight it's ring and stuff.
Speaker 2: But I had keep I had heard things banging on
Speaker 2: the doors or the windows in the living room at
Speaker 2: night where the TV was going. So I decided to
Speaker 2: sleep on the couch. And then one night, I woke
Speaker 2: up and I was like, all right, something woke me up.
Speaker 2: And I sat up on the couch and I looked
Speaker 2: at my door, and I had like sidelight windows by
Speaker 2: my door, and I looked through my sidelight beside the door,
Speaker 2: and there's two huge eyes looking right at me. And
Speaker 2: I'm staring at it, and I'm like looking at it
Speaker 2: face to face, and I'm looking at it, and it's
Speaker 2: human eyes, human face what I could see of it,
Speaker 2: but the eyes seem further apart, but it was huge.
Speaker 2: And I'm sitting there staring at it, eye to eye,
Speaker 2: fifteen foot away, maybe twelve foot away, teen foot away,
Speaker 2: twelve foot and I'm staring at it, and it's staring
Speaker 2: at me, and the eyes have a look of I
Speaker 2: would say, not shocked, but like puzzled. Like the eyes
Speaker 2: looked at me like oh wow, the same look I
Speaker 2: probably had, like oh wow. And it was staring right
Speaker 2: at me, and then all of a sudden, it blinked
Speaker 2: its eyes. And as soon as those eyes blink, I
Speaker 2: jumped over the couch and ran to the front door,
Speaker 2: and at the same time turned on the porch light
Speaker 2: and opened the door. It was already it was gone,
Speaker 2: and there was some like dirty impressions on the porch
Speaker 2: around the door, but no definitive footprints. And I didn't
Speaker 2: hear it. Run all didn't hear anything like that. But
Speaker 2: from that point on, I started leaving the porch lights
Speaker 2: on the front and the bat So when I get
Speaker 2: up and go to work, it's dark in the morning,
Speaker 2: and my neighbors have never had their lights on. Two
Speaker 2: days later, my neighbors right next to me, they've got
Speaker 2: their ports lights on. Then a few days later, the
Speaker 2: other neighbors have their porch lights on. Within a week,
Speaker 2: every neighbor between me and town all have their porch
Speaker 2: lights on. Some of them have their yards lit up
Speaker 2: now like daylight with lights. It's crazy, never had them
Speaker 2: on before.
Speaker 1: Sounds like a lot of activity has followed you around
Speaker 1: in your life, and I can definitely relate and understand
Speaker 1: a lot of people are trying to make sense as
Speaker 1: to why that happens. A lot of hunters and individuals
Speaker 1: never have even one experience, but then certain people that
Speaker 1: experience activity continue having activity.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and I forgot to tell you. One night
Speaker 2: I was down there, me and my daughter went to
Speaker 2: see my son and we were on the patio talking,
Speaker 2: hanging out and it was like drizzling rain. And I
Speaker 2: walked to the other end of the house, looking back
Speaker 2: down towards his shop where me and him were having
Speaker 2: the bigfoot stuff going on. And he had, because of
Speaker 2: all that activity, he had bought these big led I
Speaker 2: don't know. He light up the whole backyard looked like
Speaker 2: day light. He installed all these big led lights, so
Speaker 2: it was lit up down there where as dogs are at.
Speaker 2: And I walked around the corner of the house and
Speaker 2: I was just standing there looking down towards his dogs.
Speaker 2: And I just stood there, looking, just staring down there
Speaker 2: towards the dogs, and I didn't see anything. And I
Speaker 2: was looking in the woods, and I stared for a
Speaker 2: long time, probably a minute, maybe a little over a minute,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, I saw this ten
Speaker 2: piece of hair, which I thought was probably six seven
Speaker 2: foot high, moved. It had been there the whole time,
Speaker 2: but I never saw it until it moved. And when
Speaker 2: it moved, it walked behind this one tree and walked
Speaker 2: behind another one and then just disappeared. And I ran back.
Speaker 2: I told him I just saw one. It was redshed
Speaker 2: tea colored, but it had been standing there the whole time,
Speaker 2: but it's like I had to stare at it a
Speaker 2: long time. I guess. I don't know if it saw
Speaker 2: me staring at it or if it just standing still there,
Speaker 2: but it finally walked off. And then I went back
Speaker 2: and told my son daughter. I said, I just saw
Speaker 2: one down there behind the dogs, and they were like really.
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, for sure, and it was, you know, big,
Speaker 2: but didn't realize how big until the next day. Man
Speaker 2: my son went down there. There was a big dead
Speaker 2: tree that had fallen down, probably a thirty or forty
Speaker 2: inch dam of the tree along the ground, and it
Speaker 2: was standing behind it. So what I saw was probably
Speaker 2: eight or nine foot tall that walked off. It was big,
Speaker 2: bigger than what I thought. I walked around the end
Speaker 2: of the house, which the end of the house that
Speaker 2: I walked around had a light on, so it could
Speaker 2: have seen me. It could have been down there watching
Speaker 2: the dogs or whatever from the woods, but it could
Speaker 2: clearly have seen me come around the end of the house.
Speaker 2: And when I walked around the end of the house,
Speaker 2: I stepped into the dark. Before I did that, it
Speaker 2: could have seen me because of the light on the porch.
Speaker 2: It could have seen me come around the end of
Speaker 2: the house, so it was like it was what in
Speaker 2: the house or watching the dogs, and it saw me
Speaker 2: come around the inn. And then when I sit there
Speaker 2: watching it and didn't move, I watched it or look
Speaker 2: down there for over a minute and didn't see anything,
Speaker 2: and then it finally walked off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like they're more curious than anything. If
Speaker 1: it wanted to get you ahead. A lot of opportunities,
Speaker 1: even when they localized or came up and hit the truck.
Speaker 1: And yeah, they seem to just want to communicate, let
Speaker 1: us know that they're in the area, maybe break some limbs,
Speaker 1: push over some trees, and then move off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a big thing, pushing over trees. They like
Speaker 2: to do that. Yeah, and would knocks. Uh. Oh, I
Speaker 2: left that. I left that part out, Miguel. When we
Speaker 2: got down to the creek, the not the creek, but
Speaker 2: the ox bow by the rear where it was flooded
Speaker 2: and the fish started jumping after the tree got pushed
Speaker 2: over into the water. When we first got down there,
Speaker 2: my nephew he got a machete out and cut a
Speaker 2: big limb and we were we did. He was like
Speaker 2: beating the heck out of a tree doing wooden knocks.
Speaker 2: I forgot all about that before the Freddy Show. He
Speaker 2: was wearing that tree out, he was beating it. He
Speaker 2: was like, I was like, they don't, they don't do
Speaker 2: wooden knocks like that. Man, stop. But he kept on
Speaker 2: whipping on it, and I was like, you're gonna scare
Speaker 2: They're gonna know it's not real. You're gonna scare them off.
Speaker 2: I completely forgot about it that he had been beaten
Speaker 2: the heck out of a.
Speaker 1: Tree, so he potentially called them in.
Speaker 2: With wood knocks. I don't know that he called them in.
Speaker 2: They were there because as soon as we got down there,
Speaker 2: they pushed the tree into the water. But he definitely
Speaker 2: got them stirred up.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it definitely sounds like it.
Speaker 2: I've never heard of anybody doing that. I mean, continually
Speaker 2: beaten on a tree, you know, making wood knocks like
Speaker 2: bam bam bam bam.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I typically hear the wood knocks like that right
Speaker 1: before they push over a big tree. I've heard that,
Speaker 1: I think three times in my life.
Speaker 2: I just want people to realize they're not apes or
Speaker 2: gorillas or monkeys, because they can imitate our voices perfectly.
Speaker 2: Apes and gorillas can't do that, and they are human.
Speaker 2: I've seen one's face. It was a human face. Maybe
Speaker 2: the only thing was the eyes are a little bit
Speaker 2: for their part than ours. I say that, but the
Speaker 2: face that it was so big. It's sort of but
Speaker 2: it seems like the eyes were spaced for their Apart
Speaker 2: from the nose, all I could see really was the
Speaker 2: eyes and the nose and the cheeks. But the eyes
Speaker 2: were human. No, they weren't. They weren't monsturize. They were
Speaker 2: human eyes. It was like a big giant human looking
Speaker 2: at me through the window.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they are very human like. Well, Gail, and
Speaker 1: you did an excellent job at logging down the report,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate you for sharing all these experiences and
Speaker 1: the encounters that you've had.
Speaker 2: You're welcome, man, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And if you run into these things again and
Speaker 1: something significant happens, definitely get a hold of me and
Speaker 1: I would certainly like to hear about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I've had a lot going on for a long time,
Speaker 2: but I hadn't had anything going on lately since I've
Speaker 2: had my porch life. Soon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, it was an absolute pleasure speaking with you,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna let you go, and yeah, if you
Speaker 1: think of anything else, definitely contact me and let me know.
Speaker 1: All right, Gail, thank you very much for sharing your
Speaker 1: bigfoot encounters and experiences from the state of Texas, and
Speaker 1: they were truly extraordinary to listen to. And I do
Speaker 1: believe that you are marked and tagged by these creatures
Speaker 1: and for some reason they follow you around from place
Speaker 1: to place. I mean, I would like to believe that
Speaker 1: these things are all over but I feel like for
Speaker 1: some reason they're trying to contact you and connect with you.
Speaker 1: But I could be wrong. Maybe they're sasquatch all over
Speaker 1: the place, but from my experiences, I don't feel like
Speaker 1: it was a coincidence. No matter where I went, I
Speaker 1: was having sasquatch activity. If that was the case, then
Speaker 1: other people would as well. And I've talked to many
Speaker 1: other guests that have been on the show who claimed
Speaker 1: the same thing, that no matter where they went, the
Speaker 1: sasquatch were there. And I feel like that is something
Speaker 1: supernatural because some of these areas are like thirty or
Speaker 1: forty minutes away, and even if they got your wind,
Speaker 1: they have your smell, Like I don't feel like they'd
Speaker 1: be able to follow you that far away, but maybe
Speaker 1: they can, and maybe some people just happen to stumble
Speaker 1: across activity no matter where they go. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: definitely believe you, Gale, and I apologize guys about the audio.
Speaker 1: Like I said, Gail had me on speakerphone and his quality,
Speaker 1: his audio quality sounded pretty good, but for some reason,
Speaker 1: when I would talk, it didn't sound very good. And
Speaker 1: I could have redone it on my end, but it
Speaker 1: just sounded too fake and generic, and I wanted it
Speaker 1: to be natural. So that's what we had to work with.
Speaker 1: And I think it's a good reference for people who
Speaker 1: want to go on a podcast in the future, whether
Speaker 1: it's on my show or somebody else's show, avoid using speakerphone.
Speaker 1: And if you've ever been put on speakerphone by somebody,
Speaker 1: it doesn't sound very good. You can hear things in
Speaker 1: the background and it echoes really bad, so just be
Speaker 1: mindful of that. If you, guys ever go on a show,
Speaker 1: have the phone up to your ear and it's much
Speaker 1: better audio quality with the phone up to your ear
Speaker 1: rather than using speakerphone. But yeah, it's not his fault
Speaker 1: and we just had to make it work. Because he
Speaker 1: couldn't hear me with the phone up to his ear
Speaker 1: for some reason. And yeah, I appreciate the report nonetheless,
Speaker 1: and I totally believe him. If there's somebody out there
Speaker 1: listening from Texas or anywhere in North America that's had
Speaker 1: a bigfoot encounter, definitely reach out to me. I would
Speaker 1: like to hear it, and I would very much appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Helps me with the research that I do out in
Speaker 1: the field, and it helps other people with similar experiences.
Speaker 1: All Right, guys, with all that being said, until the
Speaker 1: next one, you guys, be safe out in the woods.