WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.919 This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI 2 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:05.839 AM six forty, The Gary and Shannon Show on demand 3 00:00:05.919 --> 00:00:08.519 on the iHeartRadio app. We have a bit of a 4 00:00:08.560 --> 00:00:12.679 true crime Friday coming up about detectives investigating a student 5 00:00:12.800 --> 00:00:18.879 at UCLA's murder have uncovered a bit of a twist 6 00:00:18.920 --> 00:00:21.719 in the case. This is a murder that goes back 7 00:00:21.719 --> 00:00:25.719 to nineteen ninety and had all the markings of one 8 00:00:25.839 --> 00:00:34.240 of those occult type martyrs, complete with Manson family type connections. 9 00:00:34.280 --> 00:00:36.439 So we'll talk about that. Also a feel good story 10 00:00:36.439 --> 00:00:38.679 about what a retired firefighter has been up to. 11 00:00:39.399 --> 00:00:44.560 All Right, So, yesterday something happened at Dodger Stadium, and 12 00:00:44.600 --> 00:00:48.880 I'm not talking about the padres Win. Something happened yesterday 13 00:00:49.000 --> 00:00:51.799 morning specifically, and while we were on the show here, 14 00:00:51.799 --> 00:00:53.560 we got a bunch of televisions in all of the 15 00:00:53.600 --> 00:00:57.000 local stations. We're running with a story about ice agents 16 00:00:57.039 --> 00:00:59.479 that had shown up at the parking lot at Dodger Stadium, 17 00:00:59.759 --> 00:01:01.119 State or whatever. 18 00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:06.159 Bit of a timeline. Nothing happens inside a vacuum. The 19 00:01:06.359 --> 00:01:10.079 Dodgers had remained silent as all of the protests were 20 00:01:10.319 --> 00:01:15.439 going on. The Dodgers, who are a very pro immigrant organization, 21 00:01:17.359 --> 00:01:20.239 and to say the least as you could possibly say. 22 00:01:20.920 --> 00:01:24.879 They had the national anthem sung last week, the singer 23 00:01:25.799 --> 00:01:28.879 sang it in Spanish. She told that she she told 24 00:01:29.640 --> 00:01:33.359 somebody so TikTok that she was told not to do so, 25 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:37.359 we don't know by whom. And then the story became, well, 26 00:01:37.400 --> 00:01:39.599 she was told you shouldn't have done that after the fact, 27 00:01:39.680 --> 00:01:42.560 or what have you. The Dodgers kind of got wrapped 28 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:45.640 up in this white You didn't say anything about the protest, 29 00:01:45.719 --> 00:01:48.000 and now you told her she couldn't sing in Spanish, 30 00:01:48.519 --> 00:01:52.159 which is in the opposite of what the Dodgers would 31 00:01:52.359 --> 00:01:56.719 would do, you would think in normal circumstances. So they 32 00:01:56.719 --> 00:01:59.719 were already dealing with blowback from that, and then they 33 00:01:59.719 --> 00:02:01.079 came out and said that they were going to make 34 00:02:01.079 --> 00:02:06.200 this major announcement about something beneficial to the immigrant community, 35 00:02:06.719 --> 00:02:10.039 standing alongside the immigrant community, some sort of announcement of 36 00:02:10.039 --> 00:02:11.840 how they were going to maybe I don't know, pour 37 00:02:11.960 --> 00:02:15.080 money into the cause. I'm not sure what it was. 38 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:18.919 But that was the backdrop of us getting reports yesterday 39 00:02:18.960 --> 00:02:22.759 around this time that ice officers were turning up in 40 00:02:22.879 --> 00:02:27.000 the gates outside of Dodger Stadium and that they were 41 00:02:27.319 --> 00:02:31.680 denied entry, they were trying to enter. That's when a 42 00:02:31.759 --> 00:02:34.919 handful of protesters showed up and there was some sort 43 00:02:34.960 --> 00:02:36.199 of confrontation. 44 00:02:36.639 --> 00:02:41.319 So there's two images, and again it feels like nobody 45 00:02:41.400 --> 00:02:43.560 was really trying to suss out the truth of what 46 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:44.159 was going on. 47 00:02:44.240 --> 00:02:45.159 There's two images. 48 00:02:45.240 --> 00:02:49.319 One of them is of several vehicles, including unmarked white vans, 49 00:02:49.800 --> 00:02:52.759 unmarked in that they don't have a logo of whichever 50 00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:58.439 agency is driving them, that were using a parking area 51 00:02:58.479 --> 00:03:02.159 outside Dodger Stadium, not the parking lot, as a meeting 52 00:03:02.240 --> 00:03:05.879 place to just get together before they go and execute 53 00:03:05.919 --> 00:03:11.800 some immigration enforcement what do you call it in immigration 54 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:14.120 enforcement operations? 55 00:03:14.400 --> 00:03:14.680 Whatever? 56 00:03:14.960 --> 00:03:17.400 If I'm not mistaken, and I'm not because I go 57 00:03:17.479 --> 00:03:21.680 there all the time. The fire department has a huge 58 00:03:21.719 --> 00:03:25.199 piece of property there. They actually I believe lease their 59 00:03:25.280 --> 00:03:29.560 parking area to Dodger Stadium for game days. Anyway, it 60 00:03:29.639 --> 00:03:32.840 is a big area for that fire facility. So if 61 00:03:32.879 --> 00:03:35.840 there needed to be a staging point for other law enforcement, 62 00:03:35.919 --> 00:03:37.879 that would be a likely place to do so that 63 00:03:37.960 --> 00:03:39.560 had nothing to do with Dodger Stadium. 64 00:03:39.639 --> 00:03:42.719 Yeah, it basically ends up the Vinscully Gate is where 65 00:03:42.719 --> 00:03:43.439 they were first. 66 00:03:43.840 --> 00:03:45.639 The main gate that everybody knows. 67 00:03:46.039 --> 00:03:49.759 There's plenty of roadway there before you actually get to 68 00:03:49.800 --> 00:03:51.719 the gates to get into the parking lot, and that's 69 00:03:51.719 --> 00:03:54.520 what they needed. They needed space to get together to 70 00:03:54.639 --> 00:03:57.439 plan whatever they were going to do. Apparently one of 71 00:03:57.479 --> 00:04:00.759 the vehicles that they were in broke down something like that. 72 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:05.479 They carry out their immigration enforcement operations in Hollywood, and 73 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:09.400 then after that they went back to Dodger Stadium the 74 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:11.919 E gate, which is that one that is closer to 75 00:04:12.039 --> 00:04:16.040 the fire facility there, and they said that they were 76 00:04:16.160 --> 00:04:20.560 using that space again to process some of the people 77 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:24.839 that had been picked up earlier in their immigration enforcement operations. 78 00:04:25.399 --> 00:04:28.680 Protesters are the ones that then saw them and. 79 00:04:30.319 --> 00:04:32.639 That's when they put up That's when the cameras came out, 80 00:04:32.759 --> 00:04:35.360 although there were cameras there already because of what you 81 00:04:35.439 --> 00:04:37.360 said was the announcement that was supposed to come from 82 00:04:37.399 --> 00:04:38.279 Dodgers' management. 83 00:04:39.480 --> 00:04:41.120 Dodger Stadium was not targeted. 84 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:46.439 Agents were never inside the parking lot until they left, 85 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:48.879 and the Dodgers apparently allowed them to use a different 86 00:04:48.920 --> 00:04:52.879 exit gate because the path to leave was blocked by protesters. 87 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:56.600 It was not Immigration and Customs enforcement, and I know 88 00:04:56.639 --> 00:04:58.480 that that may be splitting hairs. But if you're going 89 00:04:58.519 --> 00:05:01.480 to get information wrong, it's going to throw a lot 90 00:05:01.519 --> 00:05:06.439 of the argument out the window. Apparently it was Customs 91 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:10.199 and Border Protection. Yes, it does fall under Department of 92 00:05:10.199 --> 00:05:13.720 Homeland Security, but it is a clear distinction between the 93 00:05:13.720 --> 00:05:14.480 two agencies. 94 00:05:14.519 --> 00:05:15.839 They have been working in hand. 95 00:05:16.160 --> 00:05:18.920 They have been working hand in hand, but that that 96 00:05:19.040 --> 00:05:23.120 was again to be clear, they weren't doing any operation 97 00:05:23.319 --> 00:05:26.800 at Dodger Stadium, and I'm frustrated by people who think 98 00:05:26.839 --> 00:05:30.959 that they would, or remember last week there was a 99 00:05:31.040 --> 00:05:33.920 discussion that they were going to be showing up at 100 00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:38.160 Sofi Stadium for the soccer match that took place at Sofi. 101 00:05:38.839 --> 00:05:42.480 Why in the world would an agency like that put 102 00:05:42.519 --> 00:05:46.160 itself in a position to be completely surrounded by fifty 103 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:49.399 thousand people who would be upset if they're trying to 104 00:05:49.399 --> 00:05:50.959 get one or two guys out of there. 105 00:05:51.079 --> 00:05:52.680 That's the part I don't quite understand. 106 00:05:52.959 --> 00:05:55.920 You think that they're so dumb they would set foot 107 00:05:55.959 --> 00:06:00.879 at Dodger Stadium knowing that that crowd would overwhelmingly against them. 108 00:06:01.079 --> 00:06:03.800 That's not what they do. That is not what they do, 109 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:05.639 and they're not going to sit in the parking lot 110 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:09.720 and wait for people to look brown and then arrest them. 111 00:06:09.759 --> 00:06:12.839 Federal agents were not trying to get into Dodger Stadium. 112 00:06:12.879 --> 00:06:15.839 They were not trying to raid Dodger Stadium. They were 113 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:19.759 using an adjacent parking lot. The Dodgers did not Lee, 114 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:22.839 did not ask federal agents to leave Dodger Stadium. They 115 00:06:22.879 --> 00:06:24.639 asked them, Hey, this is a distraction. 116 00:06:24.759 --> 00:06:25.399 Can you leave the. 117 00:06:25.319 --> 00:06:28.240 Parking lot or just move along with your day. That's 118 00:06:28.279 --> 00:06:31.079 what happened. It was. The spin is that they were 119 00:06:31.079 --> 00:06:34.079 trying to Ice was raiding Dodger Stadium, and the Dodgers 120 00:06:34.120 --> 00:06:36.800 turned them away, said no, not on our watch. Like 121 00:06:36.839 --> 00:06:39.519 it's all way more dramatic than it actually was. 122 00:06:39.680 --> 00:06:41.800 They would show up at eight thirty in the morning 123 00:06:42.160 --> 00:06:45.839 for a seven first to raid. Yeah, come on so again. 124 00:06:45.959 --> 00:06:49.439 Stan cast and team president did say that because of 125 00:06:49.480 --> 00:06:54.600 the finger quotes activities earlier in the day, we continue 126 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:57.040 to work with our with groups that were involved with 127 00:06:57.120 --> 00:06:59.160 our programs, but we are going to have to delay 128 00:06:59.160 --> 00:07:01.600 today's announcement while we firm up some more details. 129 00:07:01.639 --> 00:07:03.759 We will get back to you soon with the timing. 130 00:07:04.920 --> 00:07:08.399 You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI 131 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:09.519 AM six forty. 132 00:07:10.720 --> 00:07:13.759 Well, we have a bit of a true crime Friday 133 00:07:13.839 --> 00:07:16.680 to tell you about. And to do so, we have 134 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:20.839 got to go back to June of nineteen ninety. At 135 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:26.800 the time, a common theme in the zeitgeist was a cult, 136 00:07:26.959 --> 00:07:35.160 a cult inspired Mayhem, darker spirits. The serial killer, the Nightstalker, 137 00:07:35.560 --> 00:07:39.439 a Satanist. Professed Satanist had been sentenced to death a 138 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:42.959 year before. People were still talking about it. The McMartin 139 00:07:43.079 --> 00:07:47.680 pre school molestation case was in the news slogging through 140 00:07:47.680 --> 00:07:50.680 the course at the time. If you're unfamiliar, this was 141 00:07:50.759 --> 00:07:55.399 a case that just created mass hysteria about what was 142 00:07:55.439 --> 00:07:59.079 going on in local preschools. There were claims of ritual 143 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:02.560 abuse of and the children were kind of coached into 144 00:08:02.720 --> 00:08:05.680 lying about it, and not even so lying about it. 145 00:08:05.680 --> 00:08:09.560 You know how kids are, They're very suggestive. It changed 146 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:12.680 the way children, I believe were interviewed in any sort 147 00:08:12.720 --> 00:08:17.040 of law enforcement process, if I'm not mistaken. So this 148 00:08:17.279 --> 00:08:21.560 was very much top of mine a cult. And so 149 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:27.959 when some local teenagers were in just you know, they 150 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:31.399 were just exploring a pitch black tunnel above Chatsworth Park 151 00:08:31.480 --> 00:08:37.320 and found a young man's body, the first conclusion that 152 00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:42.080 was jumped to was occult motives. The victim in the 153 00:08:42.120 --> 00:08:45.120 tunnel was identified as a twenty one year old USLA 154 00:08:45.320 --> 00:08:50.120 UCLA student majoring in astrophysics. His name was Ronald Baker, 155 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:54.279 and he was killed on June twenty first, which was 156 00:08:54.399 --> 00:08:58.240 a day considered holy by occultists, and this was a 157 00:08:58.279 --> 00:09:00.679 site where they were known to congress Gate. Look no 158 00:09:00.759 --> 00:09:03.159 further than the graffiti outside the tunnel. 159 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:05.159 Yeah, there's a couple of things that would point to 160 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:08.240 this being Satanist or a cult or something. He one, 161 00:09:08.600 --> 00:09:11.480 for one thing, had a pendant that had a pentagram 162 00:09:11.559 --> 00:09:11.879 on it. 163 00:09:12.600 --> 00:09:13.919 In the bedroom of his apartment. 164 00:09:13.960 --> 00:09:17.559 There were books on witchcraft, there was a pentagram decorated candle, 165 00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:20.919 a flyer for a mystic circle, which is a group 166 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:23.840 devoted to shamanism, and a lot of I mean, the 167 00:09:23.919 --> 00:09:27.960 conclusions were easy to jump to. Student killed on Solstice 168 00:09:28.039 --> 00:09:31.799 may have been sacrificed. The Times had a headline slain 169 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:36.879 man frequently visited site of the occultists. But the detectives 170 00:09:36.919 --> 00:09:39.600 learned that this guy, that's not what he was about. Yeah, 171 00:09:39.879 --> 00:09:42.840 he was into Wicca, but they said he was a 172 00:09:42.879 --> 00:09:48.120 really sweet guy, just detested violence in any way, adamantly 173 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:51.720 against Satanism, and arguably the occult at the same time. 174 00:09:52.759 --> 00:09:56.679 So they said, well, maybe he had changed. I mean, 175 00:09:56.679 --> 00:09:59.000 maybe that may have been one of the things that 176 00:09:59.039 --> 00:10:02.039 would explain why he was there, that he had gone 177 00:10:02.080 --> 00:10:03.080 to the dark side. 178 00:10:03.159 --> 00:10:07.080 Something that was not very explainable was the fact that 179 00:10:07.559 --> 00:10:12.200 the toxicology test showed he was heavily drunk when he died. Well, 180 00:10:12.240 --> 00:10:18.120 this guy was an introvert, like you said, shy, he 181 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:24.080 was maybe a light drinker at best. So what happened there. 182 00:10:24.080 --> 00:10:26.799 Well, there was also the ransom calls. 183 00:10:27.480 --> 00:10:32.039 Ronald Baker's dad started getting phone calls demanding one hundred 184 00:10:32.039 --> 00:10:34.840 thousand dollars in exchange for his son's life. 185 00:10:35.039 --> 00:10:37.879 Now, he had roommates at the time who turned out 186 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:41.720 to be both military veterans, both roommates in their early 187 00:10:41.799 --> 00:10:44.840 twenties as well. They had been the last people known 188 00:10:45.360 --> 00:10:48.159 to see him, last known people to see him alive, 189 00:10:48.879 --> 00:10:53.759 and they were each other's alibi. They said they had 190 00:10:53.840 --> 00:10:56.200 dropped him off at a bus stop in Van Eyes, 191 00:10:57.159 --> 00:10:59.799 that he had planned to join his friends, his mystics 192 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:04.840 circle friends for the solstice. No signs of any animosity 193 00:11:05.080 --> 00:11:12.159 between the roommates. In fact, one of the guys, Duncan Martinez, 194 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:17.799 the killed guys that Duncan was his best friend. He 195 00:11:17.799 --> 00:11:21.320 helped carry his casket. He spoke with the memorial service. 196 00:11:23.559 --> 00:11:27.559 He said his friend was never really physically strong, like 197 00:11:27.600 --> 00:11:29.879 a lot of guys I know, but he was the friendliest, 198 00:11:29.879 --> 00:11:33.279 sweetest guy. Why you would mention that I will do 199 00:11:33.320 --> 00:11:35.240 that for you at yours, I'll be like, you know what, 200 00:11:36.679 --> 00:11:39.360 the strongest guy I've ever met, But he was nice. 201 00:11:40.559 --> 00:11:45.200 It's so weird, right, his voice filled with emotion, Martinez 202 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:49.000 is did at the service. He said about his dead friend, 203 00:11:49.039 --> 00:11:51.279 he would talk to anybody, be there for anybody at 204 00:11:51.320 --> 00:11:53.240 the drop of a dime. And I just hope that 205 00:11:53.279 --> 00:11:55.639 it's something I can get over because I love him. 206 00:11:55.960 --> 00:11:58.200 It's hard to think of a time without Ron. 207 00:11:58.399 --> 00:12:01.600 Okay, but there's a weird thing that happened when Ron 208 00:12:01.720 --> 00:12:07.200 Baker's dad. Remember He's getting these ransom demand calls. When 209 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:12.399 Baker's dad told the roommates about the ransom calls, they said, oh, 210 00:12:12.519 --> 00:12:14.960 you know what, We'll go look for him at Chatsworth Park. 211 00:12:17.360 --> 00:12:18.879 Well wait a minute, I mean they knew that that 212 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:20.440 was one of the places he wanted to go, But 213 00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:23.600 why would they assume that a kidnapper took him there. 214 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:27.679 That was one of the logical things and probably the 215 00:12:27.720 --> 00:12:29.440 first real crack in their story. 216 00:12:29.840 --> 00:12:34.600 There was another troubling detail that emerged earlier on and 217 00:12:34.639 --> 00:12:39.600 it was that Duncan Martinez, the best friend, had cashed 218 00:12:39.759 --> 00:12:42.840 a check that the dead kid had given him for 219 00:12:42.919 --> 00:12:46.960 one hundred and nine dollars, but an excerpt an expert 220 00:12:47.159 --> 00:12:53.080 determined that the dead Kid's signature was forged. I'm trying 221 00:12:53.120 --> 00:12:55.360 to do Keith Morrison again. Is it working? Probably not. 222 00:12:55.399 --> 00:12:57.120 You're getting close. It is closer. 223 00:12:57.159 --> 00:13:00.360 We'll sell you the rest of the story doing Paul Harvey. Now, 224 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:03.679 is that working? When we return White Guys, you. 225 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:08.879 Know you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from 226 00:13:08.960 --> 00:13:10.519 KFI AM six forty. 227 00:13:10.919 --> 00:13:16.440 The Apple snooze is now adjustable. And what the snooze 228 00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:20.039 function on your Apple phone? Oh, on your iPhone? So 229 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:23.759 if you use it, which I do, you know that 230 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:28.360 it gives you nine minutes and that's it. Actually thought 231 00:13:28.360 --> 00:13:30.159 it was eight minutes. I guess it's nine minutes and 232 00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:33.360 that's it. You can't adjust it. Well, now, for eighteen 233 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:40.559 years you couldn't adjust it. Now you can. You can 234 00:13:40.759 --> 00:13:43.879 even adjust it for as many as fifteen whole minutes. 235 00:13:44.399 --> 00:13:47.440 Snooze to me. I used to love it, and now 236 00:13:47.480 --> 00:13:50.399 I feel like it's just so detrimental because I'm awake 237 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:52.480 when the alarm goes off, and I'm like, I don't 238 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:54.320 want to wake up, so I hit the snooze and 239 00:13:54.360 --> 00:13:56.679 then I fall right back to sleep, and then I've 240 00:13:56.679 --> 00:13:58.639 got to go through the whole rigamarole again. I think 241 00:13:58.639 --> 00:14:01.279 it throws things off to a detriment. 242 00:14:01.679 --> 00:14:04.840 I don't have an option to change the time of 243 00:14:04.879 --> 00:14:05.399 this news. 244 00:14:05.440 --> 00:14:07.519 Do you have the OIS twenty six running? 245 00:14:08.919 --> 00:14:09.320 I do not. 246 00:14:09.879 --> 00:14:15.279 Okay, that's what you need to do. It's in beta 247 00:14:15.399 --> 00:14:20.360 right now. Ah, it's in beta, so it's not ready yet, Okay, 248 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:23.600 but it's coming. It's a coming. 249 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:26.960 General Mills, by the way, latest US food company to 250 00:14:27.080 --> 00:14:32.960 remove the artificial dies from its portfolio of products. The 251 00:14:32.960 --> 00:14:35.360 food giant says it's going to remove artificial colors from 252 00:14:35.399 --> 00:14:39.120 all of its US cereals and all school foods K 253 00:14:39.159 --> 00:14:42.120 through twelve school foods by the summer of next year. 254 00:14:42.840 --> 00:14:45.600 So we're talking about the murder of Ronald Baker, a 255 00:14:45.639 --> 00:14:51.039 twenty one year old UCLA student found in the Chatsworth 256 00:14:51.120 --> 00:14:54.720 Park tunnel. Some people called it the Manson Tunnel. By 257 00:14:54.759 --> 00:14:58.480 the way, because Manson and his disciples had lived nearby 258 00:14:58.559 --> 00:15:02.600 at the Spawn Ranch. The spray paint over the tunnel 259 00:15:02.679 --> 00:15:06.879 even read with big white block letters Holy Terror and 260 00:15:07.039 --> 00:15:10.000 nineteen ninety. As we pointed out, it was very big. 261 00:15:10.360 --> 00:15:14.600 A cult culture was very big in the zeitgeist. People 262 00:15:14.639 --> 00:15:17.240 were talking about it. Nightstalk are still in the news. 263 00:15:17.279 --> 00:15:20.159 The McMartin mess was still in the news. It was 264 00:15:20.159 --> 00:15:22.320 a couple of years before the Craft came out. Anyway, 265 00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:25.159 Witchcraft and all of that very much talked about in 266 00:15:25.240 --> 00:15:29.240 pop culture. So this guy UCLA student twenty one years old, 267 00:15:29.320 --> 00:15:34.000 turns up dead inside this tunnel, and everyone is very upset. 268 00:15:34.440 --> 00:15:38.080 The father is upset, the roommates are upset, both Army veterans, 269 00:15:38.120 --> 00:15:43.000 by the way, and the roommates started to raise a 270 00:15:43.039 --> 00:15:47.840 couple issues because the dead kid's father had been getting 271 00:15:47.879 --> 00:15:51.679 these ransom calls, and so the roommates kind of said, 272 00:15:52.720 --> 00:15:54.279 all right, we'll take care of it. We'll go looking 273 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:55.639 for the guy that's making the calls. 274 00:15:55.759 --> 00:15:58.080 Right that, they were going to look in Chatsworth Park, 275 00:15:58.120 --> 00:16:00.240 which raised the question, how would you know that that's 276 00:16:00.279 --> 00:16:04.080 where he was. They also found that one of the 277 00:16:04.159 --> 00:16:06.240 roommates had cashed a check that he said came from 278 00:16:06.320 --> 00:16:09.759 Ron Baker, but figured out that Baker's signature had been forged. 279 00:16:10.159 --> 00:16:13.840 So Martinez, one of the roommates, agrees to this polygraph test. 280 00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:19.240 The test showed deception, if you will, and he took off, 281 00:16:19.679 --> 00:16:22.240 gone for about eighteen months, finally turned up in Utah, 282 00:16:22.320 --> 00:16:25.799 arrested for lying on a passport application. Was trying to 283 00:16:25.840 --> 00:16:31.200 reinvent himself and when he was asked about all of this, 284 00:16:32.279 --> 00:16:34.840 assured that his statement could not be used against him. 285 00:16:35.000 --> 00:16:39.519 He finally talked and he said this was all Nathan's idea. 286 00:16:39.759 --> 00:16:41.120 The other roommate that. 287 00:16:41.080 --> 00:16:43.440 They'd been watching an old episode of Dragnet about a 288 00:16:43.440 --> 00:16:47.639 botched kidnapping. They're both, like you, said, military. They said 289 00:16:47.639 --> 00:16:49.639 they could probably do a better job. So they lure 290 00:16:49.799 --> 00:16:51.919 Ron Baker to the park with a case of beer 291 00:16:52.519 --> 00:16:54.720 and say there's girls on the other side of this. 292 00:16:55.639 --> 00:16:56.799 We'll meet some chicks there. 293 00:16:57.080 --> 00:17:00.679 That's when the other roommate, according to this roommates, stabbed 294 00:17:00.799 --> 00:17:04.119 the dead kid with a Marine Corps k bar knife 295 00:17:05.160 --> 00:17:10.240 that this roommate had lent the other roommate. The dead 296 00:17:10.319 --> 00:17:15.279 kid apparently begged for his life and that went nowhere. 297 00:17:15.799 --> 00:17:20.839 Martinez then told his roommate Blaylock, to finish the job. 298 00:17:21.680 --> 00:17:23.359 Said I told him to make sure that it was 299 00:17:23.400 --> 00:17:26.279 over because they didn't want Ron to suffer. He also 300 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:30.000 admitted to disguising his voice to make those ransom calls 301 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:33.119 to Ron's father for the one hundred thousand dollars. 302 00:17:33.160 --> 00:17:35.720 He even admitted the whole story it doesn't click with 303 00:17:35.759 --> 00:17:41.839 me either. The dead kid's oldest sister, in a recent 304 00:17:41.880 --> 00:17:44.519 interview at the time, said they ruined their lives and 305 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:47.920 all of the family's lives with the stupidest crime. The 306 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:52.079 occult narrative obviously a red herring, wanted to throw the 307 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:54.480 police off the scent of the real culprits and the 308 00:17:54.519 --> 00:17:57.920 real motive. They set the thing up for summersaulticts because 309 00:17:57.920 --> 00:18:02.759 they knew that he would go out celebrating the solstice. 310 00:18:03.599 --> 00:18:07.839 Blaylock was charged with murder, and detectives knew that both 311 00:18:07.839 --> 00:18:10.599 of them were responsible for it, but Martinez stayed free 312 00:18:11.039 --> 00:18:15.160 until he gets arrested for robin a sporting good store 313 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:17.200 in Utah and then claims a guy put him up 314 00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:20.640 to it by threatening to expose his real role in 315 00:18:20.799 --> 00:18:24.240 the murder down in California, and he put him at 316 00:18:24.279 --> 00:18:27.359 the scene of the death while downplaying his guilt. But 317 00:18:27.400 --> 00:18:29.400 the detective said that was really the first time that 318 00:18:29.599 --> 00:18:32.279 legally they were able to put him in the tunnel. 319 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:34.880 So jurors found both of these guys guilty of first 320 00:18:34.880 --> 00:18:37.680 degree murder, both of them sentenced to life without the 321 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:38.799 possibility of parole. 322 00:18:39.279 --> 00:18:44.039 Both yes. Then in June twenty twenty, the dead kid's 323 00:18:44.079 --> 00:18:49.839 sister was startled to come across a news article reporting 324 00:18:49.920 --> 00:18:55.839 that Newsome had intervened to commute the roommate sentence, making 325 00:18:55.920 --> 00:18:58.759 him eligible for parole, and no one had told her. 326 00:18:59.559 --> 00:19:02.599 The Governor office said at the time that Martinez, the 327 00:19:02.680 --> 00:19:05.839 roommate who routinely lied, called the father with the ransom 328 00:19:05.880 --> 00:19:08.440 calls the whole bit that he had committed himself to 329 00:19:08.440 --> 00:19:15.039 self improvement during his time in prison. Not only had 330 00:19:15.039 --> 00:19:18.640 he helped to he failed to help his roommate at 331 00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:20.680 the time. If you believe the story that the other 332 00:19:20.720 --> 00:19:23.680 roommate was stabbing this guy, but in fact urged the 333 00:19:23.720 --> 00:19:26.079 other roommate to finish him off, like you said. 334 00:19:26.319 --> 00:19:29.519 And don't forget, we haven't said. We haven't used George 335 00:19:29.519 --> 00:19:32.559 Gascone's name here in a long time. But George Gascon 336 00:19:32.640 --> 00:19:39.279 had a policy that forbid prosecutors from advocating for victim's 337 00:19:39.319 --> 00:19:42.480 families before parole boards, and this was the case, so 338 00:19:42.519 --> 00:19:45.160 the victim's sister had to speak for herself. But the 339 00:19:45.200 --> 00:19:48.759 parole boards sided with Martinez and he got out of 340 00:19:48.759 --> 00:19:50.160 prison April of twenty one. 341 00:19:50.839 --> 00:19:52.400 Nathan Blaylock still behind bars. 342 00:19:53.920 --> 00:19:57.200 Great and basically all of the family members, all the detectives, 343 00:19:57.440 --> 00:20:00.640 they all say that both of these guys are equally 344 00:20:00.680 --> 00:20:03.119 responsible for Ron Baker's death. 345 00:20:03.279 --> 00:20:07.160 Old enough to show their evil and truly mean it, 346 00:20:07.839 --> 00:20:12.519 and now thank you, thank you. Apparently you kill people, 347 00:20:12.880 --> 00:20:16.519 you plan a brutal killing like that, and you take 348 00:20:16.559 --> 00:20:20.799 a couple of self help classes inside and boom, you're out, 349 00:20:20.960 --> 00:20:24.240 while the prosecutors or the DA's get to or the 350 00:20:24.279 --> 00:20:28.119 governor gets to live in his gated community. 351 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:30.319 Ye all right, we have a good. 352 00:20:30.160 --> 00:20:32.319 Story coming up. Do you want a good story coming out? 353 00:20:32.359 --> 00:20:32.519 Sure? 354 00:20:32.519 --> 00:20:33.039 Which one? 355 00:20:33.279 --> 00:20:35.160 Okay? Well, I have a feel good story about Peyton 356 00:20:35.200 --> 00:20:40.599 Manning and Tom Brady, or you can choose the retired 357 00:20:40.640 --> 00:20:43.960 firefighter who has found a new hobby in retirement to 358 00:20:44.039 --> 00:20:45.359 help the greater good. 359 00:20:45.559 --> 00:20:48.640 I also have a good sports story for next hour two, 360 00:20:48.720 --> 00:20:49.839 so we can do both of those. 361 00:20:49.880 --> 00:20:52.440 If you want, we'll do them all. How about that 362 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:54.240 white You's back. 363 00:20:54.440 --> 00:20:55.359 We're here for a while. 364 00:20:56.480 --> 00:21:00.640 You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI. 365 00:21:01.119 --> 00:21:04.599 This is Kevin from Kila Vista and I am recovering 366 00:21:04.839 --> 00:21:09.279 from skin cancer surgery the past two days. I just 367 00:21:09.319 --> 00:21:13.079 want to say thank you for bringing smiles and lefter 368 00:21:13.440 --> 00:21:17.839 to me. Take care of your skin and I love 369 00:21:17.880 --> 00:21:18.440 your show. 370 00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:21.240 Thanks, that's awesome. Thank you, Kevin. And he makes a 371 00:21:21.279 --> 00:21:23.880 strong point. What's that sunscreen? 372 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:24.400 Okay? 373 00:21:24.559 --> 00:21:29.319 Mom? Jeez I We were talking earlier today as well 374 00:21:29.400 --> 00:21:33.200 about the Minnesota state lawmakers who were shot by that 375 00:21:33.279 --> 00:21:34.839 crazy guy who showed up to their door. 376 00:21:34.960 --> 00:21:37.000 That just goes to show Gary that you do have 377 00:21:37.160 --> 00:21:40.400 low tee because you'd be a little girl and be like, oh, okay, 378 00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:41.319 open the door. 379 00:21:41.839 --> 00:21:44.799 Yes, I'd be like, yo, but you want at two am? 380 00:21:45.079 --> 00:21:46.680 Open up? 381 00:21:46.839 --> 00:21:50.200 No, if it's urgent, I'll see you guys tomorrow at 382 00:21:50.200 --> 00:21:50.759 the police station. 383 00:21:50.920 --> 00:21:51.559 Have a good night. 384 00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:53.519 That's how you would have handled him. 385 00:21:53.559 --> 00:21:55.000 That's how he should have handled it. 386 00:21:55.279 --> 00:21:56.039 You guys are idiots. 387 00:21:56.119 --> 00:21:59.920 You're an idiot. First of all. If a cops bang 388 00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:04.279 on your door at two am, it's not because they 389 00:22:04.440 --> 00:22:06.960 have a parking ticket or something to settle with you. 390 00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:09.279 That's an administrative thing where you'd show up the police 391 00:22:09.319 --> 00:22:11.759 station for not that you would do that for a 392 00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:14.599 parking ticket. But you know you're catching my dreads. It's 393 00:22:14.599 --> 00:22:17.359 probably because there's some sort of standoff in the neighborhood. 394 00:22:17.400 --> 00:22:20.559 I ask listen, I love the I love the Bravado. 395 00:22:20.759 --> 00:22:24.359 When it's ten o'clock in the morning and you're not 396 00:22:24.680 --> 00:22:26.000 woken up out of a deep. 397 00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:28.279 Sleep, that's you know what, when you have low TI. 398 00:22:29.240 --> 00:22:31.720 Sometimes I do no, no, like he does. 399 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:38.200 Love the show. You never opened the door ever. Never 400 00:22:38.279 --> 00:22:40.720 open the door. You don't say anything. You don't let 401 00:22:40.759 --> 00:22:44.359