Speaker 1: Welcome to Destiny.
Speaker 2: Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning.
Speaker 3: You know, as a human being, we have a number
Speaker 3: of senses, a number of abilities. We can see, we
Speaker 3: can hear, we use our smell senses, we touch, we taste.
Speaker 3: Those are the five primary senses. We have a sixth sense, though,
Speaker 3: which is our intuition psychic awareness, and we may not
Speaker 3: consciously be aware of its presence, but it's with us
Speaker 3: all the time. It's that little gut feeling about somebody.
Speaker 3: It's a little knowing about a question, the answer to
Speaker 3: a question, a job, taking a job, eating in a restaurant.
Speaker 3: You use your intuition, maybe just not even being aware
Speaker 3: of its presence. But today's program is on developing your
Speaker 3: psychic ability, or your intuitive abilities, and developing them in
Speaker 3: a way that they are nurtured to be effective tools. Hey,
Speaker 3: this is Cliff, your host of Destiny. I hope you're
Speaker 3: doing well today. We do not facilitate our existence enough
Speaker 3: with our psychic abilities. And this is a God given
Speaker 3: gift that some of us become aware of as a child.
Speaker 3: Some of us have naturally that we don't call psychic awareness.
Speaker 3: We might just call it our inner voice. Some people
Speaker 3: hear answers to questions at key moments. There's all kinds
Speaker 3: of stories your friends or our family, or even a
Speaker 3: book you read, perhaps even a podcast where somebody was
Speaker 3: warned in their head to move their car as soon
Speaker 3: as possible or immediately, and when they did, they avoided
Speaker 3: a huge truck crash or an intersected section disaster. And
Speaker 3: we don't pay attention to that enough. We don't hear
Speaker 3: and acknowledge that we have an ability. We have this
Speaker 3: intuitive psychic awareness that is with us at all times. Now,
Speaker 3: why should we bother heightening this, developing it further. Well,
Speaker 3: we'll hear from my guest today that it is really
Speaker 3: important to use these tools for everyday activities, from the
Speaker 3: simplest points of relationships to business decisions to life's decisions.
Speaker 3: And intuition and psychic awareness can be a real, real
Speaker 3: supporting technique to enhance and our existence. And remember, destiny
Speaker 3: is all about tools for transformation. We have not had
Speaker 3: anyone on the program as long as I can remember
Speaker 3: who is talking on nurturing psychic awareness, nurturing intuition to
Speaker 3: the point where it is a tool. And when I
Speaker 3: say nurture, we're talking about using divination, which is iching
Speaker 3: to row cards, ruins, meditative techniques, or books like we're
Speaker 3: going to present today that have lessons and tools for
Speaker 3: sharpening that little voice for sharpening the higher dimensions to
Speaker 3: come and support you. This even gets to the point
Speaker 3: where you are working with ancestral guides, relatives that go
Speaker 3: back thousands and thousands of years to come into your
Speaker 3: awareness and help you with problems, help you with understanding
Speaker 3: the world you live in as a physical being. Now
Speaker 3: we're even going to go one step beyond that and
Speaker 3: bringing in the angelic realm or departed souls. This is
Speaker 3: relatives friends that perhaps you looked for guidance when they
Speaker 3: were alive, and that seems kind of morbid to some people,
Speaker 3: But our ancestors and the native indigenous cultures of the
Speaker 3: Americas regularly speak of working with departed relatives, departed friends
Speaker 3: and asking for advice and using these supporting mechanisms to
Speaker 3: better your life, to get the support you need and
Speaker 3: to make your path as smooth as possible. Now, we
Speaker 3: don't again, we don't talk a lot about working with
Speaker 3: disembodied spirits because Hollywood has really made them kind of scary,
Speaker 3: you know, do I want to talk to my great uncle,
Speaker 3: who I really enjoyed, But do I want to call
Speaker 3: him forward from the heavens, from spirit realm and ask
Speaker 3: for his support, ask for his opinion. Well, we'll learn
Speaker 3: today that this is a real natural way to get
Speaker 3: the support you need to work with these individuals who
Speaker 3: have more experience on the planet than we do. We're
Speaker 3: going to go one step beyond that, and that is
Speaker 3: working with our own past lives, and we'll discover tech
Speaker 3: niques for dipping in to pass lives, asking for support,
Speaker 3: getting the material we need, and having these lifetimes supporting
Speaker 3: us in the physical realms that we are in. Right now,
Speaker 3: I want to play a short clip from an interview
Speaker 3: done by Uri Geller, who is a famous Israeli psychic,
Speaker 3: on his techniques, how eventually he was brought in by
Speaker 3: the CIA and also Stanford Research Institute here in California
Speaker 3: to test his abilities, and how he used his abilities
Speaker 3: not only to support the government but also navigate his
Speaker 3: own lifetime trials and learning experiences. So let's have a
Speaker 3: quick listen.
Speaker 4: For a number of years, CIA have been tracking Soviet
Speaker 4: work in the so called esp area, and they're really
Speaker 4: concerned because the Soviets, including the KGB, were spending millions
Speaker 4: of dollars every year on this kind of phenomena. They're
Speaker 4: very concerned about what could be being done to us.
Speaker 4: They were specifically interested in whether individuals could extract information
Speaker 4: or get information from remote sites or from hidden material,
Speaker 4: and so it was critical to them to find out
Speaker 4: just what abilities do people have.
Speaker 1: Word had reached the CIA about an Israeli states performer
Speaker 1: who had the talents they were looking for. Urigella was
Speaker 1: brought to the prestigious Stanford Research Institute in San Francisco
Speaker 1: for testing. Two laser physicists subjected Gella to a long
Speaker 1: series of controlled experiments. In March nineteen seventy three, they
Speaker 1: went public with their results.
Speaker 5: This film describes a five week investigation with Wurry Geller,
Speaker 5: a young Israeli. Nothing has been restaged or specially created.
Speaker 1: The film contains some astonishing claims. The scientist said that
Speaker 1: time after time, Gella was able to telepathically detect a
Speaker 1: hidden object.
Speaker 5: You will note he is very pleased with finding this target.
Speaker 1: Using his psychic powers, he was apparently able to change
Speaker 1: the weight of a piece of metal.
Speaker 5: The upper two traces are apparently due to Geller's effort.
Speaker 1: And over lunch in the SRI canteen, Gella bent dozens
Speaker 1: of spoons for the scientists. But his most incredible success
Speaker 1: was his apparent ability to telepathically read hidden drawings.
Speaker 6: Day after day, he would come into the laboratory and
Speaker 6: be able to reproduce a drawing that I had made
Speaker 6: at home and the heads in an envelope, and day
Speaker 6: after day URI would be able to make absolutely remarkable
Speaker 6: copies of that drawing.
Speaker 5: Here the experiment is repeated, certainly with regard to the
Speaker 5: ability to reproduce a hidden material, with no doubt in
Speaker 5: our mind that Geller could do that. This is a
Speaker 5: drawing that Geller has made to correspond to the target object.
Speaker 5: As you can see, he is quite elated about getting
Speaker 5: the right answer.
Speaker 4: We had no idea about how this stuff could be done.
Speaker 4: We're sort of like, where were people with gravity before
Speaker 4: Newton came along? I mean, gravity worked clearly, but no
Speaker 4: one had an idea how. So similarly, here's some things
Speaker 4: that we saw worked and happened, but no idea how.
Speaker 1: Dori Gella left SRI with a stamp of credibility, leading
Speaker 1: scientists believed he did indeed possess unexplainable powers.
Speaker 3: Jury Gella was extremely popular in the nineteen eighties and
Speaker 3: nineteen nineties on TV a lot, and he was tested constantly.
Speaker 3: People just couldn't believe some of the things he did.
Speaker 3: But it's my belief in that of a number of people,
Speaker 3: including my guest today, that his abilities are not that
Speaker 3: different from our own abilities. He just had them heightened
Speaker 3: as a young person and kept working on him from
Speaker 3: a young period, from a young age. So today's program
Speaker 3: is naturally psychic Awaken your intuitive abilities. And my guest
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Speaker 3: talk about our ancestors, and I discussed the old world,
Speaker 3: the ancient world quite regularly, and the various existences we
Speaker 3: lived in and how we lived and what senses we had.
Speaker 3: We talked about the five census sight, hearing, smell, touch, taste,
Speaker 3: But the sixth sense, I think was much more in
Speaker 3: play with our ancestors than it is today. We have
Speaker 3: all this technology, the Internet, our cell phones, artificial intelligence
Speaker 3: that is kind of taking over this sixth sense, and
Speaker 3: I think it's important that we come back to it.
Speaker 3: And today we're going to introduce a brand new book
Speaker 3: that really brings this sixth sense into play. My guest
Speaker 3: today is Karen Harrison, and she has written a book
Speaker 3: called Naturally Psychic Awaken and you're into awaken your intuitive abilities,
Speaker 3: open your inner eye, and vibrate higher. And I really
Speaker 3: enjoyed this book and we're going to talk obviously about
Speaker 3: it today. But Karen is a has been involved with
Speaker 3: magic and the Second Art since she was a young child.
Speaker 3: She's an herbologist and she's written extensively on herbs. You
Speaker 3: can look her up on Amazon and find her herb books.
Speaker 3: But this book on being a psychic is very, very unique,
Speaker 3: and we'll talk a little bit more about how you
Speaker 3: can get in touch with her. But Karen, welcome to Destiny.
Speaker 3: Great to have you on the program.
Speaker 7: Oh thank you so much. We're going to have fun.
Speaker 3: Tell me about a propriestess. What is that?
Speaker 7: Well, that's actually proprietress. It's a feminization of the word proprietor. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I know it's a weird spelling, isn't it. But I
Speaker 7: am both a medicinal herbalist as well as an alchemical herbalist.
Speaker 7: So Moon Magic is my herb company where I make
Speaker 7: ceremonial blends of incense and ritual oils and that sort
Speaker 7: of thing, and I sell them at my bookstore. Goddess
Speaker 7: isis Books and Gifts in Denver.
Speaker 3: Oh right, you have a bookstore. Amazing. Now, would you
Speaker 3: categorize yourself as a as a witch or are you
Speaker 3: more of an alchemist?
Speaker 7: I'm an alchemical witch.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll let you use the phrasing and talk a
Speaker 3: little bit with us about your childhood. You write in
Speaker 3: the early parts of the introduction that you were introduced
Speaker 3: to your psychic awareness and encouraged to work with it.
Speaker 3: Talk about your childhood a little bit.
Speaker 7: Well, it is really funny because I didn't realize it
Speaker 7: was an unusual upbringing, but as I got older, I
Speaker 7: found out. So I grew up in Tulsa, Oklahoma, which
Speaker 7: is a pretty conservative place, but my mother's side of
Speaker 7: the family was very interested in all things psychic. They
Speaker 7: followed a lot of Edgar Casey's teachings and that sort
Speaker 7: of thing. Wow, And so when we would have breakfast
Speaker 7: in the morning, we'd sit around and analyze each other's dreams.
Speaker 7: My grandmother taught me when I was really small to
Speaker 7: find omens in the clouds to answer questions that I
Speaker 7: might have. She's the one who gave me my first
Speaker 7: deck of Touro cards at on my seventeenth birthday, so
Speaker 7: all of that was really normal to me. And then
Speaker 7: a lot of my friends, of course, were very conservative.
Speaker 7: My babysitters, Zella Stone, was a Southern Baptist, so she
Speaker 7: would take me to Sunday school with her every week,
Speaker 7: and I was introduced to very conservative Christianity there, and
Speaker 7: I think it's just been a great blend of knowing
Speaker 7: what a lot of other people in the country feel
Speaker 7: about spirituality while I follow my own particular flavor and path.
Speaker 3: Would you say that your folks were following a traditional
Speaker 3: generational view of intuition and being one with the Gaya.
Speaker 7: As far as I know, because my great grandmother passed
Speaker 7: away when I was about five years old, so I
Speaker 7: never had any you know, memorable conversations about this sort
Speaker 7: of thing. But I know that my grandmother was teaching
Speaker 7: me things that her mother taught her, so I'm going
Speaker 7: to assume so.
Speaker 3: Hm hmm facity. One of the things that I was
Speaker 3: curious about is that you are taught not to fear
Speaker 3: disembodied souls, and I want you to talk a little
Speaker 3: bit about that because I think a lot of people,
Speaker 3: and this is because of Hollywood, have been turned off
Speaker 3: by the thought of working with somebody who's already passed away.
Speaker 3: And can you talk about that for a minute and
Speaker 3: give us an idea of what that means for you.
Speaker 7: Sure, my grandmother's sister or older sister, Dell, worked as
Speaker 7: a medium in the surrounding counties, and so I don't know,
Speaker 7: it was just hanging out with them or whatever. So
Speaker 7: I've been attending seances since I was seven years old,
Speaker 7: So you learned that there's really nothing particularly scary going on. Also,
Speaker 7: being able to converse with or be with someone that
Speaker 7: you have loved who has passed away is a really
Speaker 7: comforting thing. Now, I'm not going to say that you
Speaker 7: should that a person should not be careful and cautious,
Speaker 7: you know, because there there's other stuff out there too,
Speaker 7: as I'm sure you know, Cliff. Yeah, so you know
Speaker 7: you do need to use your intelligence and your common sense.
Speaker 3: Are you referring to evil spirits that kind of thing.
Speaker 7: That kind of thing, yeah, you know, like I call
Speaker 7: them psychic dust bunnies. Okay, but there's just because somebody
Speaker 7: doesn't have a body anymore doesn't make them scary.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And how did how did your folks or your
Speaker 3: relatives go about suggesting and actually training you to be
Speaker 3: open to working with disembodied souls.
Speaker 7: Well, like I said, attending these these seances or mediumship sessions,
Speaker 7: I was just observing it and it would just seemed
Speaker 7: to be a perfectly normal part of growing up. So
Speaker 7: it wasn't training per se but just literally a way
Speaker 7: of growing up.
Speaker 3: Wow. So I mean give us an example. I mean,
Speaker 3: if you're I think this, tell me if this is
Speaker 3: how it works, that if you're naturally open to receiving
Speaker 3: the information from a discarnate soul, they kind of are
Speaker 3: are maybe attracted to you, and maybe nudge you to
Speaker 3: be open to their presence. Is that what we can say?
Speaker 7: Oh, I would totally agree with you. I mean it's
Speaker 7: like finally somebody can see me, somebody is acknowledging me,
Speaker 7: you know, so I can I can have a conversation,
Speaker 7: or I can have some sort of interaction.
Speaker 3: I love that. So how do we go about I
Speaker 3: mean this is this is a direct question, obviously, but
Speaker 3: how do we go about working with these souls? Because
Speaker 3: in your book you get into angels and you get
Speaker 3: into other levels of support spirits. But when if somebody
Speaker 3: has left the planet, do you call them in. Do
Speaker 3: you do you pray for their guidance? How do we
Speaker 3: work with this level of communication.
Speaker 7: Well, one way to do it is to, you know,
Speaker 7: you always want to be pretty specific. You don't just
Speaker 7: say okay, whoever wants to come, you know, that's that's
Speaker 7: how you get yourself in trouble. But so, yes, so
Speaker 7: you want to be specific. So say that you want
Speaker 7: to you have a question that you believe that your grandmother,
Speaker 7: who has passed away, has the answer to, and nobody
Speaker 7: else in the family. So you would sit quietly in
Speaker 7: a calm space. I always suggest that people round themselves
Speaker 7: connect to their energy with the earth before they do
Speaker 7: this sort of work, so that they know that the
Speaker 7: information that they're getting is accurate. But you would then
Speaker 7: begin just kind of meditating, being your grandmother's face in
Speaker 7: your mind's eye. You might have on a piece of
Speaker 7: music softly playing that one of her favorite songs. You know,
Speaker 7: if you have any sort of letter or jewelry or
Speaker 7: what have you that belonged to her, that's a nice
Speaker 7: physical object link that you can have in the area
Speaker 7: as well. All of this is kind of like a
Speaker 7: magnet to draw her in. Now we cannot force people
Speaker 7: to converse with us if they're not in that energy
Speaker 7: space at that time. So it might take several sessions
Speaker 7: before you make that connection, but that's at least how
Speaker 7: you would begin, Okay, and then.
Speaker 3: I guess you're sitting quietly waiting for some form of communication.
Speaker 7: Right, So the presence can be different for different people.
Speaker 7: In other words, when I'm doing that sort of work,
Speaker 7: when I'm making that connection and when it's happening, I
Speaker 7: always get this feeling at the back of my head
Speaker 7: on the right side, kind of underneath the ear. That's
Speaker 7: where I get tapped on the shoulder, if you will.
Speaker 7: And so then you could ask your question out loud
Speaker 7: you wanted to, or you could think it in your head.
Speaker 7: And sometimes you will, Claire audiately hear the information the answer.
Speaker 7: Sometimes you'll just you just flash in your brain and
Speaker 7: you will get the answer. Sometimes you will have a
Speaker 7: visualization where you're is presented to you in picture form.
Speaker 7: It's different for different people who work with energy like that,
Speaker 7: but you learn your own style.
Speaker 3: Gotcha, gotcha, Karen? Are we all psychic or are some
Speaker 3: more aware of disability than others? I mean, we're talking
Speaker 3: about the sixth sense, and I think the way you
Speaker 3: write about it is it's an innate part of being human.
Speaker 7: Well, it's kind of going back to what you said
Speaker 7: at the very beginning of our conversation that we do
Speaker 7: all have the five senses, but we have this sixth sense.
Speaker 7: But due to our busy modern lives, we don't pay attention.
Speaker 7: You know, even before internet and all of this computer stuff,
Speaker 7: there was the radio, there was television, you know, so
Speaker 7: we always find ways to get distracted. So some people
Speaker 7: just are oh, I don't know, they can access it
Speaker 7: easier than other people. It's just like some people are
Speaker 7: naturally talented to play the piano, but all of us
Speaker 7: can learn to play the piano. Some of us are
Speaker 7: naturally just love to sing, but we can all learn
Speaker 7: to sing. We all have those abilities, and so in
Speaker 7: that sense, we all are psychic. We were all born that way.
Speaker 7: I guess. The other thing that has happened is when
Speaker 7: little kids have their imaginary friend, or maybe it's not
Speaker 7: really imaginary, you know what I mean. But little kids
Speaker 7: are naturally psychic. I mean, they're they're very empathic, they feel,
Speaker 7: but they get trained out of that because it's sometimes
Speaker 7: scary to the parents or the teachers or it's inconvenient
Speaker 7: for the parent or the teacher. You know, so we
Speaker 7: get we get trained out of paying attention to our
Speaker 7: sixth sense.
Speaker 3: Oh amazing. Yeah. What would you say, as somebody who
Speaker 3: has actively used her intuition and psychic ability? How does
Speaker 3: it help you? And how should I mean, you wrote
Speaker 3: this book for a pretty wide audience. But why should
Speaker 3: we cultivate our psychic intuition?
Speaker 7: Well? Why should we not? I mean, it's like we
Speaker 7: can see with our eyes, why would we keep them closed?
Speaker 7: You know, it's another ability. It is another level and
Speaker 7: layer of interacting with the world around us. Plus, it
Speaker 7: is a great way to get information about if something
Speaker 7: is going to be working out well for yourself. If
Speaker 7: this person that you've just met who's made this wonderful
Speaker 7: job offered to you is an honest, honorable person, you know,
Speaker 7: you might as well use the talent you got.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's a tool in everyone. Would you say?
Speaker 7: I would totally agree with you. And so even if
Speaker 7: you're naturally talented at it, you still want to teach
Speaker 7: yourself ways to hone it so that you can use
Speaker 7: it very well. You can depend on it, but you
Speaker 7: also have to be very ethical with it. I mean,
Speaker 7: just I think one of the things that sometimes makes
Speaker 7: people nervous when they find out I'm psychic is they
Speaker 7: think maybe I'm going to overhear their thoughts or that
Speaker 7: sort of thing. And you have to just like you
Speaker 7: don't eavesdrop on people in a restaurant, you don't enter
Speaker 7: into the energy space of a person unless you haven't
Speaker 7: been invited to be there. In other words, you know
Speaker 7: if they've asked you to do a reading for them,
Speaker 7: or they you know, are inquiring about something. But it's
Speaker 7: very rude to just intrude.
Speaker 3: That's a good point. You have this unusual childhood, which
Speaker 3: I think is fascinating, and I think in some ways
Speaker 3: I'm jealous that you had such open relatives. What's your
Speaker 3: sense of our ancestors' use of intuition? What do you feel?
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that it was a very big
Speaker 3: part of our natural existence. And I'm talking before perhaps
Speaker 3: even electricity. But what's your sense of how our ancestors
Speaker 3: used their intuition and psychic abilities.
Speaker 7: Well, I think you're absolutely correct. It was much more
Speaker 7: of an open thing. It's a matter of survival, right,
Speaker 7: So you are out there, you're in the wide open
Speaker 7: space of Earth, and you're going to use every since
Speaker 7: that you have to make your life as much as
Speaker 7: it can be and keep you yourself and your family
Speaker 7: and your community safe. So you're going to definitely use
Speaker 7: your psychic abilities, just as you use your hunting abilities
Speaker 7: or anything like that as part of living your life.
Speaker 3: Do you think that the ancestors also were connecting with
Speaker 3: what we would consider the gods or off world types.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, definitely. We were a much more natural part
Speaker 7: of Earth than we right now. It's kind of like
Speaker 7: we feel like we are a part from the world
Speaker 7: around us. Our ancestors were a part of the world
Speaker 7: around them, and so one of the ways that they
Speaker 7: accessed the divine in whatever names they might have used
Speaker 7: in whatever area of the world, would be through their intuition,
Speaker 7: through their own psychic ability to connect and to request rain,
Speaker 7: like the plants to grow so that the tribe could live.
Speaker 7: So definitely using that psychic energy to make that connection
Speaker 7: with the divine.
Speaker 3: So is that kind of a form of intention or
Speaker 3: is that asking the gods for support?
Speaker 7: I think it's both, because they would ask for give
Speaker 7: offerings to to gain this help from the divine around
Speaker 7: them so that the child would be born healthy, so
Speaker 7: that the crops would grow, so that the rain would
Speaker 7: come down, you know, whatever was needed for survival.
Speaker 3: And where are the gods and the goddesses today, Karen?
Speaker 3: Are they still with us? It seems like we're I
Speaker 3: kind of feel like here in the United States, we're
Speaker 3: kind of having this very big political movement that's kind
Speaker 3: of divided to the country, and I'm just curious what
Speaker 3: your senses of the gods and the goddesses and how
Speaker 3: they oversee us right now.
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, they're definitely there. I mean, it's kind of
Speaker 7: like what we were talking about with disembodied people. You know,
Speaker 7: once they know that you are paying attention or you
Speaker 7: are aware of them, then they will definitely actively work
Speaker 7: with you in your life. But it's not like it's
Speaker 7: a partnership. You know, you are giving them energy with
Speaker 7: your attention and with your offerings and your adoration. They
Speaker 7: are helping you with, you know, whatever goals that you
Speaker 7: are working and they're definitely there. If I kind of
Speaker 7: feel like as many people as there may be in
Speaker 7: the world, there's that many ways to connect with the divine.
Speaker 7: People just find the way that seems to work the
Speaker 7: best for them.
Speaker 3: We're going to take a short commercial break to allow
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Speaker 3: with my guest today, Karen Harrison, discussing her new book,
Speaker 3: Naturally Psychic. Will be right back, big.
Speaker 7: Hold on.
Speaker 3: Karen Harrison is my guest today. She is a author, she's
Speaker 3: an herbalist, but most notably, she is a teacher of
Speaker 3: psychic intuition. Her new book, Naturally Psychic, Awaken Your Intuitive Abilities,
Speaker 3: is all about understanding your own gifts and using them effectively.
Speaker 3: So I'm trying to think of how we would use
Speaker 3: that kind of support, because you do have a chapter
Speaker 3: where we're contacting angels and we're contacting spirits, I think,
Speaker 3: and I'm really curious about what you say when it
Speaker 3: comes to contacting a goddess of water or isis or
Speaker 3: one of these ancient goddess gods, god or goddesses and
Speaker 3: asking for support if that's even a possibility.
Speaker 7: Oh, it definitely is. When you are talking about the
Speaker 7: angelic realm, I mean, that's part of what their job
Speaker 7: is is to help us to evolve as a community,
Speaker 7: as a planet, as individuals, and so they are very
Speaker 7: eager to work with you to help you with your evolution.
Speaker 7: The same with the spirit guides. That is their job.
Speaker 7: So they want to do their job to help with
Speaker 7: this evolutionary higher vibration, bringing this planet into alignment with
Speaker 7: the divine's that's what they're there for. So they're very
Speaker 7: eager to help.
Speaker 3: So does it have to be a single individual or
Speaker 3: can it be a group, a community, or a whole
Speaker 3: country who's asking for the support of a divine being
Speaker 3: or God or goddess in uplifting the situations.
Speaker 7: Oh? Sure, use that right now. I agree exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 7: it can be an individual, it could be a country.
Speaker 7: I know that there's a lot of people who they're
Speaker 7: not exactly a secret organization, but it's not well known.
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't even think they have a name,
Speaker 7: but they do what they call grid work. So they
Speaker 7: will work with crystals, herbs, incense, chanting, visualization, that sort
Speaker 7: of thing in a specific geographical area of the world
Speaker 7: to heighten and bring the vibration level of that area up.
Speaker 7: I know there's going to be something going on for
Speaker 7: South Africa. I think it's this week. So they're not
Speaker 7: they're not all flying to France or wherever. It's happening
Speaker 7: there they are. They determine a time and they all
Speaker 7: gather at that time and whatever time zone they're in,
Speaker 7: and then they do this vibratory frequency work together. Oh right,
Speaker 7: I mean to do it on zoom. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I remember years ago. I've been meditating for
Speaker 3: most of my adult life, and we did a meditation
Speaker 3: for some world peace or something. This is like twenty
Speaker 3: years ago. And no matter where you were in the world,
Speaker 3: if you were in another country and it was two
Speaker 3: or three am, you got up and you close your
Speaker 3: eyes and you intended and meditated on a topic. It's
Speaker 3: hard to tell what the outcome is, but it sure
Speaker 3: feels good.
Speaker 7: Oh, it's just it's a lovely feeling to work with
Speaker 7: other people in that way. And I do think that
Speaker 7: it makes a difference. We just have so many people
Speaker 7: who maybe are not wanting the piece, you know, particularly
Speaker 7: some of the leaders of some of the countries in
Speaker 7: the world have a vested interest in keeping us divided. Yeah,
Speaker 7: so it's you know, just an ongoing job.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Interesting talk for a minute, would you on divination,
Speaker 3: which these are tools that you talk about in the
Speaker 3: book and prescribe for people who want to fine tune
Speaker 3: their second ability. I've never been one for touro cars,
Speaker 3: but I did do a period of itching and I
Speaker 3: had ruins for a while. Why are these great teachers
Speaker 3: for developing intuition?
Speaker 7: Well, because it's, as you said, the tools. It's like
Speaker 7: a springboard. You have something concrete that has specific meanings.
Speaker 7: So you ask a question. In my case, i'd lay
Speaker 7: out the cards and each card has a specific meaning,
Speaker 7: so you interpret each card in terms of the question
Speaker 7: that is asked. So you can get in start to
Speaker 7: kind of wet your toe by using this tool. But
Speaker 7: as you get comfortable with the tool, you are also
Speaker 7: opening up your psychic abilities as well, because they are
Speaker 7: innate within you. They may just be asleep, so as
Speaker 7: you use the cards, or you use the runs or whatever.
Speaker 7: While you may initially just use the straightforward interpretation that
Speaker 7: you saw in the book, the more you work with them,
Speaker 7: the more you get what I call psychic hits that
Speaker 7: add to bring layers, bring depths, and bring additional answers
Speaker 7: to the question.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny because very early in your introduction you
Speaker 3: say the book is designed to address different methods of
Speaker 3: obtaining information psychically, and this is the real beauty of it.
Speaker 3: And this is I mean, it's for all types of
Speaker 3: information collection, isn't it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, whatever questions that you have, I mean, you may
Speaker 7: have something very specific that you're trying to make a
Speaker 7: decision about. One of the things that I do at
Speaker 7: the beginning of the year each year is I do
Speaker 7: a twelve card to row spread and so the first
Speaker 7: card that is laid down is January. So what's going
Speaker 7: to be the same or what is going to be
Speaker 7: the challenge or what is going to be the important
Speaker 7: thing in January? Then the second card is February, and
Speaker 7: so on and so forth. So I'm prepared for each
Speaker 7: month as it comes along, and I know what the
Speaker 7: focus is going to be.
Speaker 3: How does a beginner trust the information he's getting or
Speaker 3: she's getting from a room card or even say Touroux
Speaker 3: you mentioned toarrou.
Speaker 7: Well, as human beings, we have always since you know,
Speaker 7: going back to our ancestors used symbology to reveal and
Speaker 7: reflect common archetypal experiences. And even though when you first
Speaker 7: started learning runes, for example, you may have had to
Speaker 7: memorize the rune shapes and that sort of thing, the letters,
Speaker 7: but actually innately as a human being. You already knew
Speaker 7: that stuff. You know, it's just a matter of remembering again.
Speaker 3: Hm.
Speaker 7: So if you ground yourself as I mentioned a little
Speaker 7: bit earlier, if you can your energy to that of
Speaker 7: the earth, then as you are interpreting a dream, as
Speaker 7: you are using the rooms, as you are using to row,
Speaker 7: as you are reading an aura, you will have a
Speaker 7: gut feeling that everything feels right. It feels good, this
Speaker 7: feels clear. If you start getting unclear, then you know
Speaker 7: that that information is not correct. If you hear some
Speaker 7: information that doesn't feel right, you'll know that it doesn't
Speaker 7: feel right when you're grounded. So you just really trust
Speaker 7: your gut.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I like what you were talking about, which is grounding
Speaker 3: talk a little more. Give us some more hints about
Speaker 3: the importance of grounding before you seek psychic information or
Speaker 3: intuitive awareness.
Speaker 7: Sure. So you want to be in a calm and balance,
Speaker 7: clear state when you begin any of this type of work.
Speaker 7: So grounding is one of the ways that you do that,
Speaker 7: besides just your experience with whatever tool that you're using.
Speaker 7: So do you want me to do a little grounding
Speaker 7: exercise with you?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Please?
Speaker 7: Okay, Okay, So you're sitting comfortably in your chair. I
Speaker 7: want you to if your legs are crossed, and cross
Speaker 7: them and put your feet flat on the ground. Have
Speaker 7: your arms and your hands in a comfortable position, and
Speaker 7: I want you to take a slow, deep breath in.
Speaker 7: Hold it one two three four. Exhale slowly and feel
Speaker 7: the tension and stress in your body being released. Breathe
Speaker 7: in a again one two three four exhale, allow your
Speaker 7: body to continue to relax and release any stress. Continue
Speaker 7: breathing this way while you place your attention on the
Speaker 7: bottom of your feet, in the back of your legs
Speaker 7: where you are sitting in your chair. Imagine now that
Speaker 7: you have roots growing down down from the bottom of
Speaker 7: your feet, down from the back of your legs, roots
Speaker 7: that are going down through the floor, through the substrate
Speaker 7: of the building and into the fertile and calm comfort
Speaker 7: of the earth. And you to breathe slowly in and
Speaker 7: out and the roots naturally row down down, And now
Speaker 7: paying attention to those roots and how they are settled
Speaker 7: into the earth as you breathe in, draw energy up
Speaker 7: like a plant up through the roots, up into your body,
Speaker 7: and let that light of that energy blow up with
Speaker 7: every breath, allow it to come up your spine, allow
Speaker 7: it to flow down your arms to the tips of
Speaker 7: your fingers. Breathe in, and allow it to fill your
Speaker 7: head with clarity, with peace, with relaxation and calm, and
Speaker 7: now you are ready to begin.
Speaker 3: Wow. I really felt that, especially the three branches. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: that was very cool.
Speaker 7: So when you do that, that's how you start. You're reading,
Speaker 7: whether you're reading for yourself or reading for somebody else.
Speaker 7: And anytime you begin to feel confused, you begin to
Speaker 7: feel unclear, you feel uncomfortable or whatever, just draw some
Speaker 7: more of that energy up from the earth and let
Speaker 7: any tension be released from your body and that should
Speaker 7: get you started again in a way that you can
Speaker 7: be clear.
Speaker 3: So yeah, so you're grounding and you're plugging in, is
Speaker 3: what it sounded like we were doing.
Speaker 7: Plugging in. That's again, those roots are plugging right into
Speaker 7: mother Earth.
Speaker 3: Wow. Let's go over a few of the chapters because
Speaker 3: we don't have time for all of them, but there's
Speaker 3: some real good fundamentals. The chapter I liked was the
Speaker 3: first one, which is flow of energy and understanding the
Speaker 3: sensation or what you call the gut, the gut feelings
Speaker 3: describe a little bit about the importance of that tool.
Speaker 7: Sure, well, when you are aware of and experienced with
Speaker 7: flows of the energy, you'll be able to tell whether
Speaker 7: the energy is being blocked, whether the energy is flowing correctly,
Speaker 7: whether the energy is not quite right. You know, that's
Speaker 7: one of the common sayings that we have right gut feeling.
Speaker 7: I mean it literally is your solar plexus, you know,
Speaker 7: the stomach area of your body where you get butterflies
Speaker 7: in your stomach when something isn't quite right, or you're excited,
Speaker 7: you get a sinking feeling in your stomach, in your
Speaker 7: gut when something isn't right. You know, really paying attention
Speaker 7: to that physicality of your body right there when you
Speaker 7: are doing psychic work, let you know if something is
Speaker 7: working correctly or is out of whack.
Speaker 3: That sounds like a real fundamental tool obviously for physical beings,
Speaker 3: and that one would be a great indicator to use
Speaker 3: a lot, I guess, But I guess everyone's different.
Speaker 7: I think everybody reacts with that part of their body
Speaker 7: the same way. In other words, you know, if something's
Speaker 7: not right, they really do feel it in their gut,
Speaker 7: and it's not like somebody punches them but it just
Speaker 7: your stomach just goes wow. You know this, this isn't right.
Speaker 7: And this is across the world, I mean every culture.
Speaker 7: It's a human thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to mention to our audience. We Karen
Speaker 3: has a number of exercises at the end of each
Speaker 3: chapter that are wonderful. Can we talk about one of
Speaker 3: the exercises in chapter one, which is sensing and recognizing energy?
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of that exercises breathing.
Speaker 7: Yeah, breath work is really really important. Breath, of course
Speaker 7: is life, right, Breath is energy. There's so many things
Speaker 7: that you can do with breath. When you study any
Speaker 7: other culture, breath is always a part of what they
Speaker 7: are doing, whether it's magical, spiritual, psychic, or what have you.
Speaker 7: So using breath actively and with focused intention, you can
Speaker 7: breed in energy from a tree, for example, and connect
Speaker 7: with that ancient knowledge. You can breathe the energy in
Speaker 7: from the sun. I mean that's something that I do
Speaker 7: if I'm starting to feel tired or I'm starting to go, oh,
Speaker 7: I wonder if I'm getting a cold or what, then
Speaker 7: I will do focused, concentrated breathing in from the sun.
Speaker 7: Because the sun is health, it is life. It is vitality.
Speaker 3: I like that breathing in a tree and a very
Speaker 3: old tree because obviously there's untapped wisdom there. But also
Speaker 3: trees have roots, and roots can be part of a
Speaker 3: information system.
Speaker 7: Oh, I know. Have you read some of the studies
Speaker 7: about how trees communicate with one another through their roots? No?
Speaker 3: Talk about that?
Speaker 7: Oh fascinating, it's sometimes. I mean I'm not an expert
Speaker 7: in this. I've just been reading about it lately. So
Speaker 7: scientists and ecologists have been studying groups of trees, groves
Speaker 7: of trees, and they will give each other information. They
Speaker 7: will support one another, like if a tree starts to
Speaker 7: die or lose its energy, they will extend more roots
Speaker 7: toward that particular tree and support it energetically. Isn't that fascinating?
Speaker 3: God, I don't think we.
Speaker 7: Step up on the internet. You would love it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd love to see that. Is it on your website?
Speaker 3: By the way?
Speaker 7: No? No, no, this is I think I saw this
Speaker 7: on a PBS thing.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I think what we there's probably some
Speaker 3: wise Native Americans or indigenous people who have been doing
Speaker 3: this kind of thing forever, but connecting with the trees
Speaker 3: probably is amazing. Wisdom.
Speaker 7: Oh absolutely well, and I know you have probably spoken
Speaker 7: with a druid, but that was part of the Druidic tradition,
Speaker 7: was the reverence for trees.
Speaker 3: And they and that's kind of an information bank that
Speaker 3: they were using.
Speaker 7: An information bank and also a way to gather strength
Speaker 7: and work in their community with that wisdom and with
Speaker 7: the honor and integrity.
Speaker 3: Hmm, that's amazing. Yeah, we could talk forever about trees.
Speaker 3: I love trees. I'm here in northern California and we
Speaker 3: have a lot of trees. Let's move on to chapter
Speaker 3: two where you open the chapter by saying, the trick
Speaker 3: of being psychic is simple. It's it's being able to
Speaker 3: hear and listen.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's really about getting out of your own way,
Speaker 7: getting out of your linear conscious mode of thinking. A
Speaker 7: lot of time I found when people are trying to
Speaker 7: open themselves up psychically or learn how to use a
Speaker 7: new psychic tool, they try to darn hard. They try
Speaker 7: to use their conscious mind, their left brain to access
Speaker 7: something that is a right brain activity. So they work
Speaker 7: it and they work it, and when they finally relax
Speaker 7: and just say I'm going to let this happen instead,
Speaker 7: I'm going to force this to happen. Then their gifts
Speaker 7: begin to reveal themselves very easily and simply.
Speaker 3: And so listening isn't just listening for sounds, it's other
Speaker 3: it's internal listening as well, I guess.
Speaker 7: Right, listening to yourself and listening not literally, yes, literally,
Speaker 7: but also listening as in you know you've heard the phrase,
Speaker 7: oh you hear me. In other words, you understand me,
Speaker 7: you are paying attention to me, So that that kind
Speaker 7: of listening as well of being open to hearing something
Speaker 7: in a different way than you may have expected, and
Speaker 7: yet recognizing the wisdom within it.
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Speaker 2: You ourselves today's Trust Slay take Away.
Speaker 3: My guest today is Karen Harrison. She is a long
Speaker 3: time psychic and also a teacher of psychic development. Her
Speaker 3: new book, Naturally Psychic, Awaken Your Intuitive Abilities has just
Speaker 3: come out and it is filled with practical applications and
Speaker 3: a good source for developing intuition. We don't have time
Speaker 3: to go through the whole book, but I did want
Speaker 3: to get into another chapter on clairvoyance. And there's different
Speaker 3: types of this, Claire audience, there's Claire sentience. Talk a bit,
Speaker 3: if you will, on the type of of awareness that
Speaker 3: these tools bring.
Speaker 7: Well, they are very mench in line with what you
Speaker 7: had brought up at the very beginning when we started
Speaker 7: talking of the five senses. But these are the psychic twins,
Speaker 7: the psychic companions to the five physical sentence. Since so
Speaker 7: like clairvoyance, Claire means clear like clarity voians in French site,
Speaker 7: So clairvoyance clear site. This is aligned with your physical site,
Speaker 7: Claire audience. Clear hearing is the psychic ability to hear
Speaker 7: the information, hear the answer to your question. So each
Speaker 7: of these things goes along with a physical sense.
Speaker 3: Okay, And so I guess just trial and error, you'll
Speaker 3: discover which of the clairvoyant tools are best suited for you.
Speaker 3: Because you have a clear connaisance which I'd never heard about,
Speaker 3: which is clear knowing.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's when stuff pops into your head. And you
Speaker 7: know people do this all the time. Let me share
Speaker 7: with you and your listeners, like the simplest and yet
Speaker 7: extremely accurate way to get a psychic hit. So you
Speaker 7: don't get psychic hits when you are tense and you're
Speaker 7: staring around strongly looking for the silly thing. It's when
Speaker 7: you're relaxed. So if you need the answer to a question,
Speaker 7: I suggest that you say it out loud to yourself
Speaker 7: and say, I will give myself the space to receive
Speaker 7: my answer. So you could then maybe that night dream
Speaker 7: and the answer comes to you in that dream and
Speaker 7: you remember it. How it happens for me the most, though,
Speaker 7: is when I'm driving. So when you're driving, you're kind
Speaker 7: of on autopilot I mean, I mean can't be on
Speaker 7: auto paying attention, but your attention is not directed to
Speaker 7: any questions you have, or your body or whatever you
Speaker 7: are paying attention to movement around you. You are ready
Speaker 7: to react to anything you need to react to, but
Speaker 7: you're not engaging your brain in the same way. And
Speaker 7: so I will ask myself some question, and in the
Speaker 7: next couple of days while I'm driving, suddenly, player cognitively,
Speaker 7: that answer comes into my head. Does that make sense?
Speaker 3: So perhaps a day or two you ask a question,
Speaker 3: and did you phrase it in such a way that
Speaker 3: it would come back to you in some.
Speaker 7: Form no, no, Because so you could be driving down
Speaker 7: the road, just to use that analogy, and you see
Speaker 7: a billboard that has that answer for you. Oh, you know,
Speaker 7: so you could hear it in your brain, know it
Speaker 7: in your brain. You could see a billboard. You could
Speaker 7: be standing in line at the grocery store and the
Speaker 7: child behind you with their mother says whatever they say,
Speaker 7: and you recognize that immediately as the answer to your question.
Speaker 7: You'll know.
Speaker 3: Okay. That means that the whole world is working to
Speaker 3: give you the answers to your questions in.
Speaker 7: Some manner that is correct, and we are all interconnected.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 7: But you just have to be paying attention.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I wonder if that's the issue more than
Speaker 3: anything else, is that we're not paying enough attention to
Speaker 3: the natural world that is trying to give us the
Speaker 3: solutions and the answers to our to our inquiries.
Speaker 7: I think that you have put the truth in a
Speaker 7: nutshell right there, Cliff, hmm.
Speaker 3: And so just being more aware and being more.
Speaker 7: Being more present in your own life, being.
Speaker 3: More present, that's a good one. Yeah. Not worrying about
Speaker 3: the future is that another one. I think we.
Speaker 7: Always have to pay attention to some things, you know,
Speaker 7: because you know you're going to have to do some
Speaker 7: stuff the next day. But no, I mean worry, even
Speaker 7: though it's it's hard not to. Sometimes it's a real
Speaker 7: waste of energy. So rather than worry, to be aware
Speaker 7: of various things and to have perhaps thought out some
Speaker 7: scenarios or some solutions to some of the those scenarios
Speaker 7: is a much better way to utilize your time and
Speaker 7: your energy than just eating away at yourself with worry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe the title should have been naturally human, Be
Speaker 3: human again, Be human again? You know, I think we're
Speaker 3: just so caught up in the stress of society. You
Speaker 3: can't avoid it unless you shut off everything, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 7: Oh, I know, I know, you know. I'm glad to
Speaker 7: hear that you are such an avid pursuer of meditation,
Speaker 7: because that's that's a wonderful, wonderful practice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I wish more people would would use it
Speaker 3: because it has a lot of benefits that we're just discovering.
Speaker 7: Now, right.
Speaker 3: But it's it's not for everyone. It's a challenge. I
Speaker 3: really was enjoying your chapter on contacting spirits and angelic guides.
Speaker 3: How do you go about doing that, Karen, because I
Speaker 3: would think that having as much support as you can
Speaker 3: from the other side or from these divine beings is amazing.
Speaker 3: And I personally have an issue with angels. I think
Speaker 3: the angel side of things is a little overstepped because
Speaker 3: people think, oh, the angel Gabriel is here for me,
Speaker 3: but it seems like it's a little bit much. But
Speaker 3: I guess it's whatever you can manifest right.
Speaker 7: Right and whatever you respond to or are looking for.
Speaker 7: In fact that I recommend people when they want to
Speaker 7: work with angels that they do a little bit of
Speaker 7: research just to find out who they're resonating with right now,
Speaker 7: because it won't always be the same angelic being every time.
Speaker 7: It depends on what's going on in your life. But
Speaker 7: a way to enter into it would be to know
Speaker 7: a little bit about several of them and whoever you
Speaker 7: seem to be drawn the most too. Begin to do
Speaker 7: some meditation on that particular angelic being ground first, of course,
Speaker 7: and then do your meditation on that angelic being and
Speaker 7: maybe have a scar for something that is the color
Speaker 7: that is associated with that angelic being. Kind of the
Speaker 7: same way that we were talking about earlier of contacting
Speaker 7: somebody who is now disembodied, send out a signal if
Speaker 7: you will you know, hey, I'd like to talk. I'd
Speaker 7: like to connect with you, you know, and then allow
Speaker 7: the connection to take place.
Speaker 3: How do you know, though, Barb excuse me, Karen, how
Speaker 3: do you know that you have connected with somebody who
Speaker 3: is a divine spirit or a unique angel.
Speaker 7: That same gut feeling. If it feels good, if it
Speaker 7: feels balanced, if you feel relaxed, if you feel comfortable,
Speaker 7: then you're in the space that you should be in.
Speaker 7: If it feels a little weird, if your stomach, your
Speaker 7: gut says I don't know about this, then you are
Speaker 7: not making the connection with the right energy. But that
Speaker 7: is why I want to stress that people want to
Speaker 7: ground first before they begin any of this work, so
Speaker 7: that they can really feel and listen to that gut feeling.
Speaker 7: And so if they get into a position that they're
Speaker 7: not comfortable with, they can bring an immense amount of
Speaker 7: energy into their system from the earth break that connection
Speaker 7: that they're not comfortable with. And in the session, can
Speaker 7: you give.
Speaker 3: Us some example of students or even yourself who have
Speaker 3: called in unique spirits or someone from the angelic REALM.
Speaker 7: Well, let's see, I don't do that much work with angels,
Speaker 7: but I do work with spirit guides, and so what
Speaker 7: I usually am seeking in those situations is to sharpen
Speaker 7: one of my senses, or to help me heal my
Speaker 7: body more quickly, or help me feel more positive about
Speaker 7: the universe in general. And so it's almost like having
Speaker 7: conversation with yourself inside your head, where you ask some questions,
Speaker 7: you get some answers. You ask for energy to take
Speaker 7: care of your throat that's getting sore or whatever, and
Speaker 7: visualize a color and in the case for a throat
Speaker 7: the color of orange to to heat up and heal that,
Speaker 7: and and the spirit guide will help kind of direct
Speaker 7: the energy for you and strengthen what you're doing.
Speaker 3: M I mean, you have so many great chapters you
Speaker 3: have on accessing your past lives. I mean that gets
Speaker 3: into the Akashuk records. You know, how do you know
Speaker 3: what you were doing in past lives? How far do
Speaker 3: you go back? We're you on other planets? Are you
Speaker 3: a different kind of a hominid a human being? You
Speaker 3: know what I mean?
Speaker 7: Oh, I know, you know one of the past life
Speaker 7: experiences that I had that was so amazing. I mean,
Speaker 7: it's just really changed my perspective on everything. So I'm
Speaker 7: doing this meditation deliberately, you know what, ps life is
Speaker 7: really important for me to know about right now, to
Speaker 7: view right now. So I do all this, I'm meditating
Speaker 7: on it. I go into this life and I am
Speaker 7: a human form, but I don't have human consciousness yet.
Speaker 7: I am a part of the world around me. I'm
Speaker 7: not a part from the world around us, which is
Speaker 7: what we as humans do now. So I am at
Speaker 7: a stream and I'm drinking some water out of the
Speaker 7: stream when I suddenly sense something behind me, and it
Speaker 7: is a large creature that takes my life. But at
Speaker 7: the moment of death, I had a realization that I
Speaker 7: was a separate being than the world around me. I
Speaker 7: was an individual and I did not have that sense
Speaker 7: the instant before I died. Does that make sense?
Speaker 3: So you were not aware that a human being?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I wasn't aware of my individuality. I was. And
Speaker 7: this is how I think animals must feel, how they
Speaker 7: must experience the world around them. They are a part
Speaker 7: of it, they are within the whole of it. They're
Speaker 7: not feeling part of that. Yeah, a part of gaya,
Speaker 7: But at that instant of death. In that life, I
Speaker 7: realized that I was an individual, that I was a
Speaker 7: part from the world, and that is what made me human.
Speaker 7: In my next life, I had that separateness.
Speaker 3: And so how did you use that experience for your work.
Speaker 7: Well to understand a little bit better what makes us
Speaker 7: different as humans than of life forms. And so I
Speaker 7: think that individualism that we have as humans is a
Speaker 7: great gift, but it is also a curse. Don't you
Speaker 7: think to forget that you are a part of everything,
Speaker 7: that we are all connected, and to forget that that's
Speaker 7: a hard one.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think what you're saying is something that softens
Speaker 3: us a little bit. I think we're so caught up
Speaker 3: in the activities of social media and politics and living
Speaker 3: and surviving that we forget these subtle things, right, And
Speaker 3: that memory that you had is kind of helping that
Speaker 3: that subtle human.
Speaker 7: Right to remember that I am a part of all
Speaker 7: of this. I am not really separate.
Speaker 3: Wow. Amazing. The books called Naturally Psychic Awaken Your in
Speaker 3: two of abilities, and my guest has been Karen Harrison.
Speaker 3: As we conclude, I want you to talk briefly about
Speaker 3: a subject that I'm fascinated in which is working with
Speaker 3: our ancestors. And you have a chapter on contacting ancestral guides,
Speaker 3: And I think that in our earlier periods, our ancestors
Speaker 3: were actually doing this. They were able to meditate or
Speaker 3: reach out through psychic awareness or meditation or whatever to
Speaker 3: contact their ancestors to get to get support. But I'm curious,
Speaker 3: how do you work with or how do you suggest
Speaker 3: we work with our ancestors.
Speaker 7: Well, it's always and I guess this twenty three and
Speaker 7: meters has helped people to find out that ancestors right.
Speaker 7: So whatever it is that you are wanting, you know,
Speaker 7: maybe you found out that some of your ancestors were
Speaker 7: amazing artists and you've always been curious about expressing yourself
Speaker 7: that way, but you all never felt that confident. But
Speaker 7: connecting energetically with your ancestors and inviting them to teach
Speaker 7: you about this and not being sitting in front of
Speaker 7: a canvas with some paint like Bob Ross or something,
Speaker 7: but in your dreams, in your sleeping state, allow them
Speaker 7: to teach you while you are in a very receptive
Speaker 7: and very relaxed state, so that then the next day
Speaker 7: in your waking conscious state, you can try some of
Speaker 7: these techniques, and it's not like they were going to say, Okay,
Speaker 7: so you mix blue and red and that makes purple.
Speaker 7: Not that kind of teaching, but how to move your hands,
Speaker 7: how to be the essence of something so that you
Speaker 7: can recreate it on the canvas. You know, that type
Speaker 7: of more subtle teaching.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that. So call in an ancestor for
Speaker 3: a specific chore or.
Speaker 7: Problem, right exactly, m I love that.
Speaker 3: Who did you write this book for, Karen? And what
Speaker 3: did you what do you what are your hopes for
Speaker 3: the reader?
Speaker 7: Well? I really wrote this book for people who are seekers,
Speaker 7: people who are seeking to add to their life experience,
Speaker 7: seeking to empower themselves. This book is the culmination of
Speaker 7: all of the classes that I've taught for so very
Speaker 7: long of accessing and honing your psychic skills. What I'm
Speaker 7: really about in what my bookstore is really about is
Speaker 7: helping people to remember that they are physical beings and
Speaker 7: spiritual beings. At the same time. There's spiritual beings that
Speaker 7: are having a human experience and they need to remember
Speaker 7: their gifts and use their gifts to enrich their lives.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that. You see your web addresses isis
Speaker 3: booksisbooks dot com and I didn't get a chance to
Speaker 3: look at that. Your book just came out. It just
Speaker 3: came out about a month ago, Naturally Psychic. Do you
Speaker 3: have a YouTube channel or any other source of social media.
Speaker 7: My store does. We have an Instagram and a Facebook page.
Speaker 7: I don't have any sort of YouTube thing going on.
Speaker 3: Okay, great, fantastic, Hey, real pleasure, Karen. And this is
Speaker 3: a really well written book, and I think it offers
Speaker 3: a great deal of support for people who are looking
Speaker 3: to fine tune their intuition and psychic ability. So thanks
Speaker 3: for joining me.
Speaker 7: Oh absolutely, it's been a true pleasure.
Speaker 3: I really thought that there were some good chapters in
Speaker 3: this book Naturally Psychic, and it's a quick read for
Speaker 3: the most part, but the exercises are well thought out.
Speaker 3: And for me, the thought of angel calling has always
Speaker 3: been repugnant. I don't know why. I think it has
Speaker 3: to do with the fact for years I was the
Speaker 3: program director of Whole Life Expo here in San Francisco,
Speaker 3: which is really airy fairy and a lot of topics.
Speaker 3: But you know, here I am promoting the airy fairy
Speaker 3: stuff here on destiny and so I need to be
Speaker 3: more open. I think what happened was there was a
Speaker 3: period in the early two thousands, i'd say, two thousand
Speaker 3: through two thousand and four or five, even before that,
Speaker 3: in the late nineteen nineties, ninety seven, ninety eight, where
Speaker 3: where people were and there were authors, and there were
Speaker 3: intuitives that were promoting changing your name, hearing your angel name,
Speaker 3: you know, and it got to be I mean, frankly,
Speaker 3: you know, people were changing their names to you know,
Speaker 3: I used to joke and say, oh hi, my new
Speaker 3: names bush Baby. I mean, it was just kind of crazy,
Speaker 3: and I just it just tattooed me. And now and
Speaker 3: I'm not going to name the authors because I don't
Speaker 3: want to, you know, because these people are my friends
Speaker 3: and I've had some wonderful times with them, but the
Speaker 3: whole angel phenomenon just rubbed me wrong. And so when
Speaker 3: Karen was talking about calling your angels, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'll pass on that one. Now, working with spirits, that
Speaker 3: sounds like something that could really be effective. And then
Speaker 3: the one that I really liked was and I have
Speaker 3: a friend who's working with ancestral contacts, and so this
Speaker 3: is kind of in my face right now. And the
Speaker 3: thought of calling in an ancestor who perhaps was very
Speaker 3: much in nature and worked with natural healing, or you know,
Speaker 3: was more grounded. I thought it was kind of a
Speaker 3: cool idea. I mean, there were so many very very
Speaker 3: good applications in this book, and I think we didn't
Speaker 3: even get into everything there was. We just touched upon
Speaker 3: past lives. I was surpri that she included a chapter
Speaker 3: and I didn't get a chance to read it, but
Speaker 3: there's a chapter on working and what she calls accessing
Speaker 3: your past lives, and she didn't. I didn't even get
Speaker 3: into a Kashak records. We just didn't have time for it.
Speaker 3: But remember, the Kashak records are everything that's happened in
Speaker 3: the past, everything that's happening now, and everything has happened
Speaker 3: in the future. It's just mind blowing, and so working
Speaker 3: with past lives, I just thought that was cool. I
Speaker 3: didn't even ask her about future lives, you know, and
Speaker 3: there's just so much to absorb. But I think the
Speaker 3: real strength of this book is using your intuitive nature
Speaker 3: as an active sense, bringing it up from just occasionally
Speaker 3: getting that gut feeling about something or getting that itchy
Speaker 3: neck or hair rising on the back of your neck
Speaker 3: or whatever you want to say, indications of something. Rather
Speaker 3: than having the occasional intuitive psychic hit, I think the
Speaker 3: key is to actually be ready and actively use your gifts.
Speaker 3: Actively intend to have an understanding of a situation, of
Speaker 3: a relationship, of a decision making situation. I think this
Speaker 3: is where the real strength is. And again, you know,
Speaker 3: I look at the indigenous points of view. They cultivated
Speaker 3: psychic awareness, and you know, I don't want to blow
Speaker 3: my horn, but when you meditate, you actually allow these
Speaker 3: gifts to come forward, and so you're much more sensitive
Speaker 3: to intuition, to psychic development. So naturally psychic awaken your
Speaker 3: intuitive abilities. It just came out. It's only been on
Speaker 3: a shels a month, and that was fun. I hope
Speaker 3: you liked it. Hey, I want to mention we are
Speaker 3: gonna be in Guatemala in December. This is the Sacred
Speaker 3: Pyramids of Guatemala. What makes us tour absolutely amazing is
Speaker 3: the fact that we are interacting with pyramids. I mentioned
Speaker 3: my frustration with Mexico, which is literally packed with known
Speaker 3: and unknown archaeological sites. I mean there's not they don't
Speaker 3: have names for some of them that are still still
Speaker 3: out there and they haven't really had a chance to
Speaker 3: excavate so many of them, but the Mexican government has
Speaker 3: really closed down the ability to interact, and these buildings
Speaker 3: were meant to interact. In Guatemala, they're open, it's open season.
Speaker 3: You can climb the pyramids, and in some of the
Speaker 3: locations they're so steep that they've made these staircases that
Speaker 3: hug the pyramids. So you climb the staircase and you
Speaker 3: get to the top and then you can connect with
Speaker 3: the pyramid. But the area that we're going to at
Speaker 3: t Call features the Lost World Pyramid, and this is
Speaker 3: the one pyramid that has been tested for its emissions.
Speaker 3: It actually it actually pumps out to lurk energy which
Speaker 3: is from that artery from the lay lines from the
Speaker 3: major energy systems of Gaya the Earth, and it's channeled
Speaker 3: up to the pyramid and you sit and you are
Speaker 3: feeling this stuff. So we're gonna do that. We're gonna
Speaker 3: work for shaman. This is the kind of tour I've
Speaker 3: been running for a few years now and we haven't
Speaker 3: been able to get to Mexico, and we're only taking
Speaker 3: twenty people. We're about half full. If you want to
Speaker 3: see the entire itinerary. Go to earth Ancients dot com,
Speaker 3: Forward slash tours check out the itinerary. If you have
Speaker 3: any questions whatsoever, send me an email. Send it to
Speaker 3: earth Ancients the number four the letter you at gmail
Speaker 3: dot com. Go Hey, Cliff, I'm thinking about going, but
Speaker 3: but but but but I need to figure this out,
Speaker 3: so I'll help you figure it out now. One of
Speaker 3: the things we've added to this to this tour is
Speaker 3: the second to last day. This is an option, by
Speaker 3: the way, it's a little spindy, but it's worth it.
Speaker 3: We're flying via helicopter to doctor Richard Hanson and gets
Speaker 3: where doctor Richard Hanson is. We don't actually know if
Speaker 3: he's gonna be there or not. We're not sure, but
Speaker 3: we are going to Elmodor and the Ladonta Pyramids, the
Speaker 3: largest pyramids in the Americas. We're gonna go see those,
Speaker 3: and we'll climb on few of those as well. So
Speaker 3: that's kind of a really cool option. I'm really excited
Speaker 3: about this tour. I really am. If you want to
Speaker 3: join us again, go to earthagents dot com, forward slash tours,
Speaker 3: check out the itinerary, come out and join us. It's
Speaker 3: really gonna be a blast.
Speaker 7: Oh.
Speaker 3: By the way, we just launched our Egypt tour. It's
Speaker 3: gonna be April, it's gonna be in and oh it's
Speaker 3: got a great lineup, so check that out. We just
Speaker 3: posted it Egypt April twenty eighth through May tenth. We'll
Speaker 3: meet in Cairo. That's with our friend Mohammed Imbrahim. Look
Speaker 3: at that man, Look at that itinerary. We have got
Speaker 3: some really amazing places to check out. So fun tours.
Speaker 3: And one of the things I want to make sure
Speaker 3: you remember is, hey, compare them. Compare the tours with others.
Speaker 3: We are half off most of them, thirty to fifty
Speaker 3: percent less than most of the other tours, so we
Speaker 3: love them all right, there you go, Right, that's it
Speaker 3: for this program today. I want to think my guest
Speaker 3: today Karen Harrison and her new book Naturally Psychic. As always,
Speaker 3: the team of Gil Tour, Mark Foster, and even Jendale.
Speaker 3: We love Jendale. We love you guys, all right, take
Speaker 3: care of me well and we will talk to you
Speaker 3: next time.