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many years.
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five Till Midnight, yea, yeah on your show.
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And and only then did I truly realize, even though
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get involved in your local areas So without any further ado,
why don't we just jump in and start talking about
the stories this week. Obviously the big one that we
have to talk about. As the thumbnail suggests, there is
no crying in the casino. So we're gonna talk about
the tariffs. Here we go, like, take a look at this.
This is a graph of the Chinese WAND. So Liberation Day.
I just love how like that was the name that
Trump had for it. You know, he's like, this is
Liberation Day, had the everyone on the White House lawn
had the great, big past press conference about everything, and
then just look at this graph. Here's your a couple
of days after April second and going over just about
a week over to April seventh, and this is when
the famous fight to the End quote comes through that
you know, we're going to actually engage in this Chinese
versus America trade war. And then the fifty percent tariffs
were announced. Now they've actually crept up to one hundred
and four percent tariffs, and Chinese wand is having the
worst day ever since the financial crisis in two thousand
and eight. So discuss, gentlemen.
Speaker 4: I just wish I could have got in there to
short it.
Speaker 1: It could have been like the reverse George Soros, you
know George Soros for good, right.
Speaker 3: I did manage to pack a pocket about seven thousand
dollars with various calls inputs on this. I think the
the story arc was kind of obvious how it was
going to go, I mean, and just like like Trump
was going to propose it the probably I mean people
I know acadomic agent causes like Kobe or like coping
about it. But it was kind of obvious he was
going to the extreme great shock, come back to the center,
negotiate a deal like he does literally every other issue.
Although he did move a little bit faster because the
bond market started sinking, but I think the timeline probably
would have gone into next week originally. But the overall
story arc was was kind of like obvious.
Speaker 6: All right, So you know, apparently we have some familiar
familiar already here with like options trading and that sort
of thing. Are you all familiar with You're familiar with
the Greeks, you know, like the alpha beta gamma. You know,
it's the black Schulls equation. So there's a derivation of
another of one of the Greeks. I can't remember which
one is it's called vego, which is and I when
I saw the you.
Speaker 2: See this is one of these things.
Speaker 6: A lot of times markets are not as driven by
new cycles as you think they are.
Speaker 2: And this is sort of my take on this one.
Speaker 6: One of the Greeks is vega, which is actually it's
it's a measure of your exposure to volatility, which is
like like like that chart you've got up there right now,
that's a lot of volatility, lots of up and mostly down,
but there's a lot of ups and downs. One of
the things that's really interesting if you remember, over the
course of the last few years, really the last year
or so, we've seen the you know, the Federal Reserve
has been raising interest rates, and when Federal Reserve raises
interest rates, it tends to like very large portfolios are
going to tend to want to, uh, they're going to
tend to want to take on more treasuries because you know,
if you can have seven percent, if you have seven
percent guaranteed versus you know, maybe eight and a half
percent exposed to downside in the S and P five hundred,
A lot of times, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, even if you don't you know, even if you.
Speaker 6: Don't like throw all the way towards that sort of uh,
that sort of safer bet. You're gonna start shifting towards
that safer bet, because why wouldn't you. There's been a
lot of that over the course of the last year.
So and I like one of the things that I
saw on the market the other day that you know,
everybody there was a massive amount of treasuries that were
being dumped and like everybody, and that was really I
think that was what caused everybody to do the you know,
the panic, Oh no, well, it's being here, it comes here,
it comes to you.
Speaker 2: This is like, don't trust the plan anymore.
Speaker 6: One of the things that's interesting is I'm not sure
how news driven that actually was. I'm not even sure
how tariff driven it actually was.
Speaker 2: One of the uh.
Speaker 6: But one of the things that you do is when
whenever you start taking on a lot of treasuries, a
lot of mortgage backed securities, a lot of these sort
of structured securities, you're actually taking on a position that
is implicitly short volatility. So like you know, when you know,
you take away your ability, when you take away your
ability to float up with volatility, you're essentially, you know,
like if you were if you were to you know, uh,
if you were to invest a lot in the S
and P five hundred or whatever, volatility is really interesting
for you because you can float up as well as
you can go down. But when you get into these
structured assets, you're actually you're implicitly short volatility, which means
you're you've got a lot of you've got a lot
of money, you got a lot of money locked up
in places where it can't move no matter what the
market does.
Speaker 2: So and it's called it's called vega exposures.
Speaker 6: This is it's a measure of your exposure is a
measure of your exposure to volatility.
Speaker 2: And so what you see a lot of times is.
Speaker 6: That I think the only thing that the only thing
that I really think Trump has done here is that
his like he's kind of signaled that he's willing to
throw the market around a lot. And so it's not
necessarily a strength or weakness signal.
Speaker 2: But all that offloading treasuries.
Speaker 6: Was a bunch of people dumping dumping safe security, you know,
structured assets and getting ready to sort of you know,
get long volatility, which is going to be like you know,
whatever the opposite a strangle as I'm not that sophisticated,
but you know, it's like one of these things. Was
like any anytime you anytime you're like looking at the
surface level news of the market, you're kind of like
maybe like missing out on the second third order effects.
And I, you know, I and a bunch of people
that I know played like saw that dep and I
I mean I did too. I don't have a lot
of money to play markets with or whatever, but when
bitcoin took that massive dive the other night, I made
a long play and it hit my target the.
Speaker 2: Next morning, and I was like, the hell, this is incredible.
You know, it doesn't work out that well.
Speaker 6: So yeah, So I think that I think all of
that treasury stuff, all that treasury stuff, I don't know
how teriff related it was. I think it's just I
think it was rebalancing portfolios to a just vega exposures
what I think was going.
Speaker 3: So if you look at the overall trend, this is
just returning to where it was in October before the
election drama. It kind of feels like a bunch of
people put money into the market when Donald Trump came
in anticipating a jump and thereby creating a jump, and
then it kind of stayed flat because it's like very
early in his presidency. So then they took it out
again out of fear of the tariffs, and we're just
back to where it was before Trump was elected. It's
not actually showing any grand falling markets. It's just like, oh,
we're just back to the mean. Okay. I don't want
to babble when board the audience with pecon stuff, but
Standy did a good review of it.
Speaker 2: Markets are my like second or third favorite thing in
the world.
Speaker 6: I forget other people's eyes glaze over when you start
talking about that sort of thing. It's like, you don't
think vega exposure is the coolest thing in the world.
Speaker 5: You said Greek, so that you were talking about like
the people you know, not this time. It's like, yeah, man,
I know what the Greece are. They're gay and they
like to.
Speaker 2: Well not really.
Speaker 1: Well the I mean, one of the things I want
to inject in this discussion about the whole tariff nonsense,
aside from you know, the basic bitch democrat uh screaming
about them, which we have a clip of that. In
a moment here we're going to show just so we
can laugh. But you know, aside from everyone saying, oh,
tariff's are the worst thing in the world, and the
question comes up, okay, then why the fuck to every
other country on the planet have them? Then, aside from that,
what I want to say about this is this is
all just like nonsense. When you hear people screaming about
like what the effects of this are going to be immediately,
and it just seems like, you know, I'm a good friend.
Charlottie has pointed this out on Twitter recently about the
cult of like ass madness from everyone outside of America
at this point, you know, just pontificating about what these
tariffs mean and what they're actually going to do and stuff.
It's like, dude, it's been twenty four hours, man, Like
anything that's going to happen with these tariffs, stuff's going
to take.
Speaker 2: Months down the road to see.
Speaker 1: And I'm really I'm just sick and tired of people
once again going through the old song and dance routine
of the first Trump administration saying, oh, Donald Trump is
just bumbling his way through everything and just as a
complete fucking idiot has no idea what's going on. It's
just backwards summersaulting and triple flipper rowing into situations that
are beneficial to him. I mean, like, I don't know
what the long term employ our long term play is
with this. I don't know what it's going to look like.
But now anyone who's telling you immediately that, oh, the
tariffs are going to do this, this is just bullshit.
Speaker 2: My favorite one is oh go ahead, yeah.
Speaker 4: I My favorite part of this whole thing is hearing
the stories from people who you know, work at big
companies and they have these slack channels and everything, and
all of these boomers that voted for Trump are like,
they want him dead now. And it's just like, do
you understand the market? Do you understand that it's going
to go down? Do you understand that if it goes
to every if you would have bought every time it
went down twenty percent in the history of the market,
you would have you would have made bank. These people there,
I just can't fucking stand them.
Speaker 2: Well, there's also this question.
Speaker 6: It's like, what are you doing at age sixty five
with eighty percent of your retirement portfolio and risk assets anyway?
Speaker 2: Like what what did you not read the fine print?
Here their panda expresses hiring Sam.
Speaker 4: Right, I mean there, yeah, Yeah, I'm hearing stories about
like people are on me like, oh, they're eighty eighty
year old uncle just bought a house.
Speaker 2: It's like, what.
Speaker 4: The are you fucking people? Retarded? People are literally retarded.
Speaker 5: That is that is crazy. Yeah, there seems to be
a lack in that culture of wanting to in that
generation culture of wanting to take care of your kids,
I guess, and I know that's talked about quite a bit,
but it's it's an outlier from past generations.
Speaker 1: The other wild thing about this, too, is that I
see this every day in my tax practice man all
the time. People come in they take distributions from, you know,
whether it's brokerage accounts or ir rays or four to
one k's, whatever it is, and they are shocked to
look at you, like you have three heads when they
come into the office and they realize they have to
pay taxes on this stuff at the end of the year.
So it's like, what the hell are you talking about?
When you take an early distribution from these markets or
something like that and you have to come in you
have to pay twenty thirty percent tax on it. It's like,
but you stupid, Like you have to let the stuff sit.
You can't just go in and like take it out
all of a sudden, you know, so we kind of
remove it from the market.
Speaker 2: Because it's too volatile. It's like, dude, you got to
pay taxes on that ship.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: What's really interesting too, is is like, because I've got
done this before I've dumped the four one K, you
have to click through like three menus in whoever the whoever,
the whatever the brokerage account is. You have to click
through three menus that warn you that you're gonna have
to pay taxes on this immediately. Like you know, you
have to click yes three times, Yes, I really want
to do this.
Speaker 5: Oh man, what did they think it was for if
they didn't have to pay taxes for it early that
they like just didn't understand what a four oh one
K was.
Speaker 2: No, none of them do.
Speaker 4: Like that's so crazy.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1: It literally is just how most people treat this market discussion.
You see this on Twitter. You see this, and it's
not just old people that do this too, just to
you know, throw boomers a little bit of a bone here,
But it's only everyone just thinks it's the magic slot machine,
and it's just like, oh yeah, money, money just match
goes up. I'm just going to put money into the
magic gambling machine and I'm going to cash it out
in twenty years. And because I gambled on this, it's
just like at the casino or something, right, I don't
have to pay taxes on this, no, dude, And they
charge you a lot, especially depending on how long that
money's been sitting for.
Speaker 6: But you know what, on the tariff thing, you say,
we can't tell what the immediate first order if that what,
we can't tell so soon what the effects of tariffs
are going to be. I mean, we were talking about
this on John d Space last night or a couple
of nights ago. Some of the Euros there's especially in
some of the smarmier Americans, some of the like europhile
Americans that you see in like the media and whatever.
Speaker 2: That cheese comment is the one I'm thinking of, and they're.
Speaker 8: Talking about, Yeah, Americans left, you throw in cheese now
and you know they're going to crack first or whatever,
and like that's like one of the few things that
I've been willing to say, is the actual is going
to be the effect of any sort of prolonged tariff
situation is.
Speaker 2: That these are the big winners.
Speaker 6: Here are actually American purveyors of these, like so of
higher end products that are normally offloaded from Europe. We've
done this nine or well, we haven't done this nine
or ten times. We've done this two or three times
in my lifetime. And like whenever you know, I was,
I've been old enough to drink, I've been old enough
to like no cheese and wine and that sort of
thing for about fifteen years now. And this is I
think the third time this has happened. And every time
this happens, that is actually exactly like the effect that
is intended that the Euros are anticipating is exactly the
opposite of what happens actually American American wine producers, American
cheese producers, American we even have like knockoff Iberico ham
producers here.
Speaker 2: Now, those are they're actually always the winners.
Speaker 6: And because one of the things that happens is that
like the market, it take.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 6: There's a place in New Orleans is really famous for
serving a cocktail called French seventy five, which uses champagne
and if champagne goes up to twenty percent, they will immediately
shift over using California sparkling wine. And one of the
things that does is that gives the California sparkling wine
industry enough room to scale, and they scale, their product
gets cheaper and their product also gets better. So I mean,
and ironically, one of the thing that the thing that
Euros tend to think is going to cause us to
crack actually is, into my mind, is almost always the
proof that these protected tariffs actually work.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, that's actually what they're supposed to do.
Speaker 6: They're supposed to drive revenue towards you know, the the
American analog. That's what that's like the original purpose of
like the American tariff. We devised the tariff originally to
protect our fledgling sort of manufacturing industry in the Northeast.
Speaker 2: And it works then and it'll work now too.
Speaker 6: So like be careful whenever you be careful when you
start thinking like, oh, we're going to crack over like
like Gouda or something like that.
Speaker 2: Now it doesn't work that way. We just start making gooda.
Speaker 5: In Texas, and we make great cheese here in Vermont,
in Wisconsin, and a bunch of other places. Like I
love American cheese. I like cheese from elsewhere too, but
we have a strategic cheese reserve in this country. We're fine. Yeah,
the but the thing that gets me is that, like
people try to overcomplicate this, but it's to me at
the base level, it's very simple. We spend more money
overseas than we have coming from overseas, so that means
that our money is slowly going away from our country
while we have a deficit, and the eventual result of that,
without some sort of massive continued rise in GDP is bankruptcy.
So like it's a problem for anybody. I don't know
why the I mean, besides the fact that it's just Trump,
and that's the only reason. I don't know why this
is so controversial.
Speaker 1: Ah, there's there's definitely a lot of America derangement syndrome
and Orange band bad making its return once again, not
just from the left this time. But that's a topic
for another day. I do have to laugh, how on
the left side of things, these the same people that
are cheering on the death of the United Healthcare CEO
a couple of weeks ago, are now defending large corporations
stock portfolios from dropping like two p in a whee.
It says, that's not going No no, I was about
to bring up to photo or this video next of
democrats see thing, but continue criji.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, you know, it kind of reveals
that that the left doesn't actually have, at least at
this point, the left, the former were we shall call
it the ancient regime. It doesn't actually have morals or
ethics or goals. It's just whatever will will acquire more
power or destroy its enemies is what it believes in,
even if it's like destructive to itself. And like these,
they'll believe one thing one week and next week if
the stocks go up, they'll call it a billionaires evil.
It's like it's it's nonsense. It's not worth wasting time
engaging them.
Speaker 1: Well, let's listen to the excellent expert analysis of Chris
Chris Matthews on MSNBC.
Speaker 2: Let's listen to this guy.
Speaker 9: So I was saying, I watched them the Evening News
last night, one of the other networks, and I watched
the issue of lumber. Now you see we get so
much of our lumber two by fours from Canada. That's
where we get it from Canada. We got a newsprint
from up different newspapers.
Speaker 3: The fact is, we get it.
Speaker 2: What are we going to do have more lumber made
in the United States?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 3: What is our plan?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 5: Oh, we're not going to import wood, so we're going
to make more wood.
Speaker 2: We're going to create more wood.
Speaker 4: Is that it?
Speaker 9: I don't think we are in a position to simply
replicate the imports coming into this country with our own products.
They can't always be done. And I think if a
wood's example of that wood, are we going to make
more wood in this country because of our trade deal?
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 5: Why didn't you use a better example? Obviously we can
make more wood. We have so many forests made a good.
Speaker 2: That's so stupid, Scholard. What are you think? Do you
think wood grows on trees?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: This is one of the dumbest this This is one
of the things that amazing.
Speaker 6: He's almost as bad as Jim Kramer in the sense
that he can choose the worst possible examples.
Speaker 2: So, you know, I was talking about this a little
bit before we went on the air.
Speaker 6: We had actually had a softwood lumber dispute running with
Canada since nineteen eighty two. It's actually one of the
longest running trade disputes, you know, in the United States,
and you know, you actually saw this during the pandemic
a little bit.
Speaker 2: But like one of the things is that not only
can we not only can we.
Speaker 6: Produce more softwood lumber, and softwood lumber is the one
that they were talking about. Softwood lumber is it's a
you know, on se boat. It's going to be traded
at a dimensional lumber. In the United States, it's usually
segmented into the Pacific Northwest slumber industry and the American
Southeast lumber industry. And in the Northwest it's going to
be Douglas fur and maybe one or two other things.
And in the South it's almost entirely a crop or
you know, or a tree that's called yellow pine, which
is going to be one of three species of pine.
And we actually if you've ever driven through the American South,
you'll notice it's absolutely covered in pine. And it's not
even wild pine anymore. It's cultivated pine. It's stands in
these perfect little roads that you slash pine for like
for pulp wood. Then they use what it's called a
lob lolly pine for dimensional lumber. We have actually had
like we actually are so capable of producing more and
more of it that we have we actually have we
have actually have huge stocks of it that are past
their harvest date because the Canadians have been flooding the
United States with cheap softwood lumber for so long that
it has been that it's been cheaper to just.
Speaker 2: Let it grow and not even not even bother to
cut it.
Speaker 6: So, yeah, price a lumber goes up, but there's a
there's a ceiling at which all of that American, all
of that American softwood lumber that's just like sitting around
rotting in the American southeast becomes profitable again. And then
you know, it starts. We just start harvesting it, and
like the price doesn't go up anymore.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the hell he's talking about.
Speaker 1: Also have to laugh about how he's super concerned about
the newspaper business.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, the news.
Speaker 5: Remembers when they invented newspaper.
Speaker 4: I mean, are we making are we making wood? And
did everythybody catch that? I mean they're literally retarded and we.
Speaker 2: Just make more wood?
Speaker 4: Yes, wekay, like totally, I look out the window and
there's pines everywhere. I love a freaking Alabama. I don't
think those are indigenous here, they're just fucking everywhere.
Speaker 6: No, they are indigenous, but they have been clear like
they have been clearcut three times. So it's like it's
like the ones in Alabama is like the Alabama, Alabama
and Mississippi or the pretty much the epicenter of that
phenomenon that I just described. But yeah, I mean you're
looking you are looking at it. They're engineered. Actually, they're
engineered to produce better lumber.
Speaker 2: That's why.
Speaker 6: That's why there's pine trees. You know, they shoot straight
up and they don't seem to branch out. That's like,
that's that's it. It's an engineered variety. This grows it
really grows too fast, but it grows fast and it
doesn't branch out and it doesn't prove many knots.
Speaker 2: It's it's optimized for soft with lumber.
Speaker 4: Actually, I mean, can the optimize them for no pollen?
Speaker 5: Southern New England? Southern New England was deforested before the
first white man stepped foot In Alabama. I just want
to be clear here.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, have you ever read that book. Oh god, oh,
William Cronin's book. It's Changes in the Land. It's about yeah, yeah,
he was real big, he was. It was a book
that was written in the nineteen eighties.
Speaker 6: It was about how like a lot of the ecological
changes that get blamed on the white Man were actually
done by like natives. For instance, the way they would
do agricultures, it was just clear cut, like a whole area,
they just.
Speaker 2: Burn it all out.
Speaker 1: And this is the same thing with the bison herds.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like when you look at the numbers from when
the Spanish arrived with the horses, there's something around eighty
to one hundred million, and by the time the market
hunters got there in the eighteen fifties or only ten
million left. Yeah, but it's like, okay, so ninety percent
of these things were killed by Asians on horse.
Speaker 5: No, No, that's that's not what happened.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 5: Number one, the Native Americans in the in the Central US,
they absolutely did kill with kill pits. They ran stampeding
bison into pits where tens of thousands of them died,
and those have been documented in archaeology. But the reason,
like when the in the sixteen hundreds. In the late
fifteen hundreds, like because of the diseases spread to Native Americans.
In the entire of the Americas, it was like eighty
to ninety percent of the population died in that time period.
Over a period of a few generations, the prey populations
they completely skyrocketed. So there are descriptions from the early
sixteen hundreds when the Pilgrims got here in New England
of the skies being completely blotted out by by birds
and like you they would shoot a blunderbuss up and
birds would fall from the sky like rain, like it was.
And that's because of a complete ecological disaster.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they still had that on the East Coast up
until the early twentieth century, with things like passenger pigeons
and stuff.
Speaker 2: They're just blot out the sky.
Speaker 5: It was a little bit worse back then, like it was.
It wasn't just birds, it was like the fish and
like the fish just flowed in the water like like
they were. I mean, these are descriptions from the sixteen hundreds,
but it was complete like destruction ecologically because of the
loss of human population.
Speaker 1: Well as much as that's very interesting to talk about
turning it back to no, No, it's all good. I mean,
one of the things that we can absolutely solve the
issue of things increasing is if we just got rid
of more people in this country. And this is the
next question topic that we're going to get back to
once again is ignore all the terrift stuff because we're
not going to know the results of this for several months.
The thing that everyone must to be focusing on as
always is immigration. Immigration, immigration, And here's something that we
have once again, we're going to bring up this topic.
So the Department of Homeland Security has announced that, no,
we've been talking about this for a while, that US
self deportations are going to have to be the way
that a lot of this is addressed, not just actual
physical mass deportations, even.
Speaker 2: Though we're getting started on that right.
Speaker 1: So, well, here's the start with the international students talking.
So from March twenty twenty four to March twenty twenty five,
the US lost over one hundred and thirty international students.
Indian students declined by over twenty seven percent, Master students
declined by over twenty percent. Institutions will lose up to
four billion dollars. Yeah boo, who who cares so international students,
they're on their way out.
Speaker 2: That's a good start. Never get tired of that clip.
You know, that's the actually the segment.
Speaker 6: I mean, of course there's plenty of people covering the
illegal Mexican illegal Latin American migration beat and that sort
of thing, but these are actually the ones that trouble
me more.
Speaker 2: And like it's actually and you know, there's a lot
of complaining going on.
Speaker 6: You know, there's not enough deportations out of home depot
and that sort of thing. Those aren't actually concerned me
as much. You know, when we talk about this, we're
always talking about what I call third wave immigration, which
is like whenever I like, whenever I divide up the immigration,
I have immigration to about eighteen forty as like sort
of first wave that's heritage Americans, and then everything from well, really,
you know, I guess you could actually move first wave
all the way up to the eighteen nineties. The second
wave of German immigrations up to about nineteen sixty five
is whenever we call the second wave immigration. Third wave
immigration is mostly Latin American, but it is also this
other sort of this more troublesome grab bag of really
just like immigrants that we just let in because they
were like Soviet dissidents or something like that. We just
started to assume that anybody who opposes the Soviet Union
as a friend of the United States, we let them in.
These are the ones that concerned me a lot more
because they do exactly this. They come and they take
up slots in our better universities. They you know, like
they become like sort of the model minorities, and they like,
you know, they make like you know, like Indian bronze
or whatever. They into these jobs where they make like
twohundred fifty thousand dollars a year or something like that,
and like at the end of the day, and you know,
I find that sort of immigration more destructive even than
the Mexican immigration, because every one of them that comes
into the country is usually, let's face it, who are
they denying.
Speaker 2: They're denying younger.
Speaker 6: How almost always the person that ends up getting denied
a slot in Georgetown or Harvard or something like that
for these people is it's going to be you know,
a relatively high performing like dude in Iowa who was
on the football team, the lacrosse team, and the quiz
Bowl team and you know, gets denied all from every
Ivy League school or something like that. So that's right,
the one way to look at that, that's one hundred
and thirty thousand slots in America's elite universities.
Speaker 2: That opens up. And if you're like a sort of
a class.
Speaker 6: Based or like, you know, an elite theory analyst or
something like that, this should actually make you much happier
than you know, an outpouring of Mexicans back into Latin
America or something like that.
Speaker 2: This is actually, this is actually the good stuff. Well,
I think I.
Speaker 4: Think we're we're at the point where if they can't
just concentrate on the oh, we need to get the
most dangerous out of here. Oh we need to get
this and that, and it's on us now. You know,
a friend of mine saw a a Haitian locally in
like a parts store, and the first thing he thought
was the first as soon as that person left, the
first thing he did was ask, well do you know
where they live? Call ice? Call ice. Like if you
see someone and you're like, well, obviously they're illegal, they
shouldn't be here, calls Just do.
Speaker 2: It, dude. I actually did it the other day.
Speaker 6: I like there were, Yes, there were some people, and
I was just in a really bad mood, and I
have to admit I felt bad about it. But there
was some There were some some some laborers working on
the house across the street from mine, and I noticed
that they just weren't doing anything or they were just
standing in the road kind of looking menacing, and they
were on the clock.
Speaker 2: I called Ice. That came out. I haven't seen him
since then.
Speaker 4: We can help, We're a part of this. I mean,
just just fucking do it. I was talking to someone
the other day who they called. They called Ice on
their own work site.
Speaker 2: Amazing. Wow, I just forget. Also, yeah, I'm doing my part,
you know exactly. I mean.
Speaker 1: One things I'll say about this international student stuff is
I was at a for my high school. It also
doubled as a boarding school, right, And we had a
huge influx of international Chinese students at this school, right.
And this is no secret to anybody.
Speaker 6: Know.
Speaker 1: We've been knowing this stuff for a long time, the
rampant cheating that occurs in all of these groups, and
they were just blatantly obvious about it. Every one of
these students would feign ignorance about like speaking English, right,
even though like obviously they knew enough to get by
in the school, right, but if a teacher would basically
let them get away with it. They were bringing translators
into the class when they were taking their tests, and
of course they were hooked up to the internet, so
they could do whatever they wanted with them, right, So
and they'd always like sit together and their study groups
and what have you and just like copy each other's
notes and tests and just blatantly cheat all damn time. So,
I mean, we're not gaining anything by having these people here.
Sam Match has already talked about them stealing opportunities from
actual heritage Americans. But the argument of this is one
of the things that you see like a bunch like
with people who hold up like economics as their god
a lot like libertarians talk this way, right, It's like, well, well,
Indian and Chinese Americans to actually do the best economically
of all groups. We're gonna get more talking more about
Indians in a minute here. But it's like, I question
the alleged you know, high performing, uh, the stats of
all these different groups. Now, it seems to me there's
a lot of make work fake jobs, No different than
a lot of the fake jobs that we see women
walking around.
Speaker 2: With as well.
Speaker 1: You know, like, oh so I went into the office
today and I sat on my desk and I talked
for five minutes. I sent ten emails and then I
made two hundred thousand dollars and YadA, YadA, YadA. I
suspect there's also a huge influx of jobs to go
to these people as well. I'm not buying that when
you look at a country like India that has problems
with human shit in the street, that somehow everybody here
is just a technological genius and is adding so much
to the American economy.
Speaker 2: No, I mean, you're you're exactly right. In fact, they're
a whole because you know, these things.
Speaker 6: Work in you know, the venture capital ecosystem, and there's
that sort of thing you'll if you you know, there's
plenty of venture capital sorts to follow me on that
follow me on because I do like a I do
enough AI stuff to make myself interesting to them. And
one of the things I noticed is that sometimes they'll
get followed by like Silicon Valley types or whatever, and
they'll just have like in their bio, they'll have very
obviously like sort of Patel Mapia sort of things, and
like that's what they're doing. They're in the United States
as venture capitalists, and what they're doing is they're you know,
they're extracting. You know, people go into these Ivy League
schools or whatever, and they're extracting, you know, they're extracting
like maybe lower grade talent, but they're getting it at
you know, they're all of their transactions are occurring much
cheaper than normal American transactions where and then they go
out to San Francisco and they like live in they
live in communal housing and you get to do this now.
You can go on Craigslist in San Francisco and you
just look at the number of entries that request specifically,
if not racial, Indians or some sort of ethnic and
there'll be some ethnic marker in the Craigslist at or
something like that. That's actually the pipeline that's being used
here to like infiltrate like sort of America tech industry,
America's elite university system. They're like they're like doubling, tripling
down because you know, they'll they'll live in some of
the most hard conditions imaginable. But that's exactly how they're
undercutting it. And imagine, I didn't know this number was
this high. I'm actually the first time, I'm really proud
of the Trump administration for attacking the problem exactly where
it is. That's it's really, it's a really, that's a
that's a white pill for me, which is.
Speaker 2: Rare, you know, on the several things.
Speaker 1: Back to the previous topic we were talking about, So
I was fighting with leftists that out in my mentions
last week on Twitter because I was talking about, you know,
issues with you know, as a relation to the discussion
about the tariffs. Right, It's like, oh, like the boomers
are screaming about you know, the four on one k's
and millennials, well, like I'd like to own a home.
Speaker 2: What's a stock?
Speaker 1: And everyone was just bitching about, you know, oh, well
if you do teriffs and the housing prices are going
to go up. And I'm saying, well, if you actually
go through with mass deportations to get rid of people,
housing prices are going to go down. And they're like, oh, well,
how's that going to work. Do you think that immigrants
are actually in like higher end houses in the country.
It's like, well, they're certainly not living in fucking holes
in the ground, right, So they're living somewhere, and it
doesn't even need to be that you're living in like
some high end house, right, it's just by the virtue
of these human beings being in this country, they're taking
up space. They're taking up rooms and apartments, which are
you know, the artificial price of rent is increasing, so
people can't is easily saved to actually buy some of
these homes. So like, there's just no reason for any
of these people to be here, whether they're getting in
the high end houses, or they're living in apartments, or
they're living in you know, shacks with fifteen people inside them.
It doesn't matter. We gain nothing by having these people here,
and housing prices will decrease if you just get rid
of the demand for the housing, simple supplying demand, all right.
Speaker 9: So.
Speaker 3: Might be worth bringing up where's our roomittant? Oh sorry,
what'stuffuk about that? I was going to big up remittance text?
But I think I just got back. I was away
for a second.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Well James Kirkpatrick still every day is tweeting about this,
and I give him credit for it because it's one
hundred percent correct, it needs to be done.
Speaker 4: And yeah, I know I probably mentioned this every stream,
but you have to remember that these big companies are
not your friend and try to buy as local as
you can. Walmart doesn't want it doesn't want immigration to
go down. Costco doesn't want, you know, Publics doesn't want
immigration to go down. That's more customers for them, and
the more money that's printed and just given to them,
that's more money that they're making. They want these people here,
so these aren't these people aren't your friends, and try
to do everything as local as possible.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean I've talked about this before on
my tax streams with my buddy Chad Elkins speaking much
everyone goes over to the April fifteenth party stream next week.
That'll be a fun time. But there's an option at
the tax service that I work for, and every tax
return has options like do you consent to give our
information overseas to a call center in case there's an
issue with return?
Speaker 3: And I just.
Speaker 1: Automatically click no on every single one of these. There's
like internal memos from the company trying to say, oh, well,
this is how you can work this properly. So the
client is concern about their sense of information going overseas.
It's like, fuck you, I'm not sending anyone's personal like
social Security number information over to a call center in India.
I don't fucking care what you say. There's no way
that's ever safe. Like fuck these big companies man. So anyway,
so we're talking about the high end. We'll call it
quote unquote legal immigration here. And you know, I'll say
one more thing about this. If anyone's ever played a
game of Civilization, you just know you'd never share your
tech with anybody. You know, it's like the one way
to ensure that you win this game. And here we
are just allowing foreign nationals to come on over here.
No doubt many of these people end up becoming spies,
especially the Chinese variety, you know, stealing our tech. We
already shouldn't have any of these people here to begin with.
This is just a dumbie ye right at the start.
So it's very nice to see these people are leaving
in droves, and fucking of these universities are going to
lose a couple of billion dollars as a result.
Speaker 4: Moving on, the number that I saw was two hundred
and fifty thousand Chinese students, Chinese nationals in our universities.
I heard that number recently. And you know, Martin Armstrong
has been talking about war around the globe that he
sees coming, and some people are saying that we're there's
going to be a standoff with China at some point,
and you know, hopefully it's not something that goes hot,
but you know, I think it would be something that
would happen on the seas.
Speaker 2: Two hundred.
Speaker 4: They have a two hundred and fifty thousand person army
here and no one wants to talk about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've talked previously on the show about states like
I believe it was Arkansas, was Sarah Huckabee Sanders were
making gains to actually confiscate land that's owned by Chinese
companies on American soil. It's like, no, you can't just
own you know, tens dozens hundreds of acres in the middle.
Speaker 2: Of the United States, like the land's being taken from you.
Speaker 6: So you know, you know, I spent a lot of
time spent in the last couple of years, I've spent
a lot of time in Arkansas. And one of the
things is because it's always personal interests in mind what
American city would be really well primed if like say,
a bunch of people wanted to go make an American
city cool, you know, and I had, you know, I
was actually working on a project with you know, like
sort of maybe sort of like building a graph.
Speaker 2: Actually, I don't want to get too into the specifics
of it, because I may still do it.
Speaker 6: But Little Rock actually is the city that I had
identified as one of the best candidates. And whenever I
started spending a lot of time there, I noticed some
really unusual things, which is because you know, I started
tracking the real estate market there and in and this
is like right around the corner from Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
She was the governor of Arkansas, and she I think
she was something like that. I don't know, no Huckaby
yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. And this is yeah,
she was like she I was like most as I
was staying in the neighborhood, I was like literally two
blocks from the Governor's mansion.
Speaker 2: I was tracking real estate in this neighborhood.
Speaker 6: It's this very old neighborhood full these wonderful Victorian houses
that you could get for like two hundred and fifty
grand and I would see block transactions, like block sized
real estate transactions of like, and they would almost always
be Saudi Arabian investors or Chinese investors or something like that,
just buying up huge chunks of little rock because they
were seeing the same data that I was, that this
is a very this is a this is a good
value market to invest in. So Arkansas is a place
that's had a lot of problems with that, and it's
probably why she's, like, you know, sort of been very
aggressive about attacking it. But you see that all the time,
and I'm like, I'm like, why did we Why do
we let these people own.
Speaker 2: Property all in the United States? Like, why is that
even a thing? Yeah? Bad idea from the start.
Speaker 4: We went we went to a Baptist church in Auburn
before we uh, before we moved, and they had a
Chinese Bible Study meeting there. And when the Baptist Church
decided that they wanted to move to a bigger place,
they sold it to the Chinese Bible Study. And I'm like, Okay,
how does a Chinese Bible Study have the money to
buy a building? No, China just bought that.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 3: Also, I think a no religious institution in China can
buy things without government permission, so it had to go
through the government. Yeah, I just I just want to
point out that like that we don't have to engage
the mainland China, Chinese at all. We could just kick
them out of here and like take back the land, Yeah,
take back the ocean to China's military is primarily designed
on a quarter fight continent strategy or dogma. So like,
as long as we don't enter an Asian land war,
we're fine.
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, they're not going to invade us.
Speaker 4: They will take Taiwan though, Yeah, but you know, oh well,
well and that And let me tell you something. I've
been hearing things through the grapevine from people who would
know these things. They're predicting by the end of the year,
there's going to be something's gonna happen with Taiwan. Maybe
China decides anything that goes through Taiwan is going to
have to go through China first. And with everything that's
going on with this tariff thing and this war, I mean,
that's what could lead us into I'm not saying a
hot war, but I'm talking about something where you may see,
you may see vessels deployed kind of thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I can tell you what's gonna happen.
They're gonna blockade Taiwan, not invade it, and essentially blocked
the trade into Taiwan. And and unless Taiwan like somehow
negotiates a treaty with China, they're just going to block
a Taiwan. It's gonna be like a basically forcing them
to comply. You don't have to invade Taiwan. I mean,
they haven't a political club in there that you can
politically take it over. I'm like just thirty percent of
the voter, but you might see like a like an
attempt at democracy with like a bog like you like,
like like what Russia did in crime heat with the
fake vote, although maybe that vote was real honestly. So
they'll block ade Taiwan. Later this year, when when the
environment is allowable and there's no storms, we'll have a
couple of months of cut off computer chips. So just
saying might be opportune moment to buy some if you
know computer trips are going to go up in price.
Some stock options there are six to eight months ahead.
Speaker 4: But financial advice, nothing I say, and this is in
financial advice either, But if something like that is going
to happen oil as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And nothing I say is financial advice
that it's just pure speculation. You can just not believe me.
But now that's what's gonna happen. They're going to force
the value of They're gonna get the Great Taiwan partially
or fully, depending on the deal they make, and we'll
have to pay higher prices on computer chips until we
move manufacturing here, which is why we should start it
now before that happens, because they're going to do that
within probably the next eighteen months. And maybe Taiwan's never
actually formally admitted into Taiwan, but China will take over
their international trade routes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they've They've been improving their navy for several years
and it will continue to improve while ours declines relative
to US. And frankly, our largest military strength for projecting
power overseas is our navy, and that will not always
be true.
Speaker 1: I just want all of their fishing fleets to be
destroyed on the Pacific. We could turn them to artificial
reefs to make up for every last living creature the
Chinaman wants to steal from the ocean.
Speaker 5: But kind of just trawling the bottom of the ocean
with these massive things that are just killing everything.
Speaker 1: Yep, and they'll eat everything too, which should tell you
something about those people. But well, to quote THESSINI, never
get involved in a land war in Asia. That's all
I have to say about that one. But so, speaking
of getting rid of let's call them quote unquote legal immigrants,
let's talk about the illegal variety as well. So Department
of Homeland Security is making an announcement on what they're
going to do to incentivize more people leaving the country
of their own volition by property confiscation and fines. So
here we go, right here, So thirteen twenty four d
civil penalties for failure to depart. This is in reference
to the million plus people that Trump administration knows they
are here because they downloaded the immigran ration app that
the Biden administration had a bunch of people download. So
it's like, oh, well, uh huh, we know where you are.
All right, Here we go with Section A the start.
In general, any alien subject to a final order of
removal who won willfully, fault, fails, or refuses to a
depart from the United States pursued to the order b
make timely application and good faith or travel or for
travel or other documents necessary for departure, or c present
for present for removal at the time and place required
by the Attorney General, or conspires to take any action
designed to prevent or hamper the alien's departure pursued to
the order, shall pay a civil penalty of not more
than five hundred dollars to the Commissioner for each day
the alien is in violation of the section. Nothing in
this section still be blah blah blah. Yeah, so they're
gonna start finding people they don't self deport. And then
there's later talks in this that this could even result
in confiscation of property.
Speaker 3: Do you muy? Is this against illegals or Chinese?
Speaker 1: This is in reference to like illegals at the southern border.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Did you see what Stephen Miller was saying earlier today?
Speaker 2: I did not see today. No, what do you say he's.
Speaker 3: Pushing that now? I will say this is a dangerous gambit.
I'm not totally on board with this, but he was
pushing for mandatory registration of illegal status to like put
you on the books that you exist and count you.
His goal is to say, well, once you're on the
books as illegal, we can arrest you and deport you.
I think what he really wants to do is to
get like documents, Like his his long term goal is
probably to get some documentation and records so they can
like put eyes on these people. See what kind of
social Security numbers they've stolen or been given by Democrats,
See if they voted it's you know, et cetera, et cetera.
Get their addresses down. But of course, later on the road,
if twenty twenty six or twenty twenty eight doesn't go well,
this initiative could be used against us and like kind
of legitimize the illegal immigrants because once you've written them down,
you can give them citizenship in bulk. The Democrats have
never formally documented the illegals because it's like kind of
like shady business. But once they're all written down, you
can start doing things in bulk, and it's kind of
like a little bit of a biblical caution, you know.
The one of the dangers of doing censuses is that
automates a lot of things that you know, once you
go from shady business to official business, you can really
fuck over this country. So Steven Miller is doing a
little bit of a dangerous gambit with with this push
to officially like require you to document as an illegal immigrant,
but also if they don't register as a legal immigrant,
then now you're officially avoiding government required documents. You're you're
you've broken actual crime on the books, and we can
deport you boarding.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, well, there's certainly that. I mean.
Speaker 1: The other topic that's attached to this as well is
that the third I R S head in the last
several months is uh, I got to resign here in
a minute. This is in reference to Department of Homeland
Security and DOGE getting their hands on you know, what
they say is illegal immigrants tax records. So we'll see
what that's all about. Yeah, I know, hopefully. I mean,
you know, they've been making announcements about all these Social
Security numbers that just appeared out of thin air during
the by administration, which is very irregular because we didn't
have that many new births in the United States during
that time.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it was kind of obvious. It was kind
of obvious all these people that are like, you know,
ninety and above, almost all of them are like, you know,
the person died and they gave the illegal to the
number to an illegal.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, no doubt that's been happening.
Speaker 5: Also legitimately giving non citizens social Security numbers, just like yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, they were totally doing that too. I
mean it's the same process that we're doing to give
people driver's licenses as well. We talked about this last
week with the trucking industry about how they've been faking
commercial driver's licenses and the truckers unions are defending people
for it because you know, it's more people for the union, right, yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, These institutions are no longer. I mean, they argue
for themselves, they make they work for themselves. But that's
to the detriment of the American people. And there's a
lot of that going on.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: So I mean we're talking about the remittance tax, we're
talking about self deportations. I mean, one thing that we
do have to credit the Trump administration, you know, at
the start of it, I mean, everybody here is definitely
not satisfied, but the number of deportations that have happened
thus far they absolutely need to increase. But one thing
we can give the credit to the Trump administration is
that Egal crossings at the southern border are down ninety
nine percent. It really does seem that I've at least
stopped the bleeding of people coming into the country, and
I just need to deal with getting literally everybody out
who doesn't belong here. But at least we're not continuingly
flooding new people in.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Also, one of the things, one of the things that
has not really been reported in American media that much,
although I think academic agent brought it up, people have
been getting asked interesting questions when they re enter the country,
even if they're legal status, like hey, what why did
you post about I mean, obviously it's it's it's framed
as like like you said something better about Israel? Why
did you do that? Kind of like scare mongering a
little bit.
Speaker 4: I just came back into it. Are you talking about
legal citizens like citizens that too?
Speaker 3: Apparently?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, I mean I just came back into the country,
And if you would have thought they would ask anybody
that that would be me.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, as far as I can tell, they were
only doing it to legal residence. I'm not sure about
citizens yet, but people I know in the city have
been telling me how like I me know, like a
lot and a lot of liberals here, and the liberals
are saying, oh, my family member was asked x y
Z about Israel for some reason coming into the country,
which I mean, on one hand, I'm kind of upset
that they're prioritizing a foreign country. Obviously this is stupid.
But on the other hand, using the gambit of insulting
Israel to deport someone as kind of like a clever ploy.
I don't know. I have mixed feelings about that.
Speaker 1: I certainly don't like it, but I want less people
in my country, so I mean, like, I'll take it.
I won't be happy about it, but I'm not going
to say no to deporting people.
Speaker 5: But they can't ask them about being anti American. It
has to be anti Israel.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's kind of insane. It's it's
kind of like revealing yourself too much to be a
colonial administration government. To some degree, I think it's going
to backfire if they keep doing this. But I've been
I've heard this at least like four or five times
now from different people that like their relative who's a
legal resident not a citizen, was asked about social media
posts about Israel, like you know, and you know their
left wing, so the palestime.
Speaker 1: I mean, I hate talking about this fucking country and
talking about that certain group. But I will say this,
there were new stories that came out of this week
of polls in the United States, and the first time
since these polls were recorded, there is an average American
opinion that is negative towards Israel as supposed to positive.
Speaker 3: I mean, like, yeah, yeah, the.
Speaker 2: Cats out of the bag at dude.
Speaker 5: I mean, twenty percent of gen Z questions the big
age word. I'm not good.
Speaker 2: That's a real stat.
Speaker 3: I wrote a few months I wrote a few months
ago about just the numerical reality, like the average age
of the boomer is is about and I think in
like eighteen months, the average age of a boomer will
equal the average age of death in the United States,
which means that the boomer population can only go down
from like eighteen months from now forward, which means less
and less support for Israel. Basically, like it's it's only
downroad for them from here and out, and pretty soon
they're just gonna have to like compete like any other
foreign group because people are just done with this shit,
you know, there's.
Speaker 2: The River to the Sea, Israel backstab me. Just good.
That was pretty good.
Speaker 6: But you know, like one of the things about that,
that Zoomer number that is, you know, there are good
things and bad things about a postliterate society, but like
the one of the things that's going on there with
the Zoomers is that they're just too illiterate to understand
to actually even coach.
Speaker 10: You take those books that were used as Holocaust propagandas
so like there's just not like Shimmler's List night whatever,
that journal is that woman road.
Speaker 2: They're reading it and they're just going there. It's like
floating past their eyes.
Speaker 6: And then they're just thinking about this and they're like
six million people.
Speaker 2: That didn't sound right to me. And that's it's literally
the basis of it. So it's like one of the
things it's.
Speaker 10: Like, oh okay, yeah, one of the one of the
plus sides to a post literate society is the propaganda
doesn't work anymore.
Speaker 5: I wonder if they can do Schindler's List in like
a TikTok dance.
Speaker 11: Oh man, Well, that's actually a that's actually a really
good point because like twenty to thirty years ago you
could have sophisticated propaganda that wasn't obvious.
Speaker 3: But when your average cis and can't read above a
sixth grade level, your propaganda has to get dumber and
it becomes more obvious.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's if we try to reduce this story to
like one that's digestible on like a thirty second attention span,
it becomes ludicrous. You know, it either becomes ludicrous or
you start to wonder why you're being told about it.
You know, it's like one of the two, one of
the two things, and neither produced good outcomes for the
you know that the that the the the originator wanted.
Speaker 1: Well, there was one more thing I wanted to mention
in about the deportation stuff. We can come back to
that in a moment, because this is relevant right now.
So they're talking about the certain country once again. But
net and Yahoo was over here, and aside from meeting
with your top conservative commentators like Dave Rubin, perhaps he
was asking netan Yahoo to smuggle him another small small
boy or something like that. And Tim Poole was back
there as well, maybe you know, putting a kipa under
his beanie.
Speaker 2: Who knows what was going on.
Speaker 4: With that, But I can't believe it. I can't believe
I didn't get invited.
Speaker 3: Did you hear Tempoole? Not that I'm going to believe
what anything Temple says, but Temple says there was an
actual meeting with social media influencers where like the Israel
represented representatives basically gave marching orders to them.
Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm going to give marching orders, a
Timpoole I know is the one that's gonna fall online.
Speaker 7: So on the subject of Tempoole, didn't he just today,
didn't he just like come out in solidarity with that
sort of future future doctor or astronaut that stabbed that
kid in the face up and.
Speaker 2: He did, Yeah, He's like, what do you? What are
you again?
Speaker 1: Self defense for I was like, oh my god, I
hope that knock finds you, Timpoole.
Speaker 2: I'm going to eat your livery tinpool.
Speaker 4: It's the love, you know, what's you know? You know,
it's funny. I was invited on timpole in twenty twenty
one and I went, and it's gotten so everything's turned
so on its on its head that the person who
invited me on has like blocked me on Twitter. I mean,
that's just that's just the way the way it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: That is that that lady, that that woman that you fail.
Speaker 4: On there sour patch lids. Yeah, she's the biggest fucking
Zionist now, I mean she like she everything I.
Speaker 1: Thought you like had an affair with her husband with
timpoole or something too.
Speaker 3: What's going on?
Speaker 4: I mean, jeez, please allegedly please.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I don't like, I don't know.
Speaker 6: This is one of these things where like my ignorance
of Judaism comes off as serious anti Semitism. But they
don't really think of marriage the same way we do.
It's like a contract and you live together. There's no
like sacramental ass well.
Speaker 1: I mean they are religion of loopholes, sampatch. Someone makes
you think they'd hold a marriage contract, right right, exact
agree of seriousness?
Speaker 2: So right.
Speaker 5: I don't know, I've never heard that, and I'm from
the Northeast.
Speaker 4: I know a bunch of.
Speaker 3: Chicken did it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just it's just a culture of trickstorism. I
mean that's pretty much what it is.
Speaker 1: Well, let's listen to the trickster in chief over here
and talking to Donald Trump. Mind you this was the
guy who betrayed Donald First during the twenty twenty election.
Speaker 2: Carry on one where.
Speaker 12: Well, we're talking about all do trade maybe not, maybe not,
don't forget we help Israel alive.
Speaker 2: You know, we give Israel four billion dollars a year.
That's a lot like congratulations. By the way, that's pretty good.
Speaker 3: But we.
Speaker 4: They're literally that that four billion dollars and the I
think four or five billion dollars again is basically a
bribe that they don't go to war against each other.
That's literally why that money will never ever stop. It's
a bribe so that they don't go to war against
each other. There was something also, what are they also?
What is what is Israel export besides pharmaceuticals and dysgenic
freaks porn?
Speaker 5: Yeah, all, it's maybe probably I don't supposed to take
a bad answer.
Speaker 13: They export, they export, they they well, there's sort of
a through put engine for white women from the United
States that want to do a semester abroad and come
back and act like they've done something incredibly sophisticated.
Speaker 2: That's the other purposes.
Speaker 1: I mean, the number one export is past Indians apparently,
So yeah, I I hate because I was fighting with
someone on Twitter, which I gotta stop doing.
Speaker 3: It's a waste of time. But they're like, oh, Israel
is the front line against Islamic terrorism, like front line
or open gate man.
Speaker 10: My brother in Christ, why does Islamic terrorism exist?
Speaker 2: And it's quite literally the existence of this state Israel.
Speaker 4: You know, really, why does why does ISA send a
rocket into Israel and then like apologize, like send the
representative to the one Israeli radio to apologize.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was weird, a little bit more than weird. Also,
Israel invented like modern terrorism. Everybody like we know that.
Speaker 2: Right, Oh, yes, absolutely.
Speaker 1: I mean like America didn't have any influence even remotely
on this part of the world since the jeffersonistration will
be declared more on the course airs for like five minutes,
I mean like, oh yeah, and then this is a
great frontline for American foreign policy. It's like, dude, We've
only had interest in this area since like the nineteen nineties. Like,
fuck this man, it's only because this country is there. Yeah,
uh huh, I really got.
Speaker 4: You want to know a crazy fact about that about Israel?
Do you know what the average IQ in Israel is?
Speaker 6: It's pretty low isn't it like ninety something like that,
they got twos.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's too no, no, I'm talking about among
the Jewish population.
Speaker 2: Oh right, too.
Speaker 13: Yeah.
Speaker 6: They have a lot of like they got a lot
of like religious sex within rereading problems.
Speaker 2: And you know, you can only do that for so long.
Speaker 5: That's the It's also true of like the super Orthodox
Jews in New York. They have a lot of issues.
Speaker 2: That's why they gotta dig.
Speaker 1: That's why they got dig those tunnels to keep like
sloth in the goonies, keep like the bread guys down.
Speaker 2: There, son stettlebillies. This is the worst. When I come
on this show, I'm worse than I am anywhere else. Worse. Well,
so I guess the talks about.
Speaker 1: Uh uh, you know, potentially not sending much money to Israel,
and that'd be nice. We'll see what happens. I mean,
there was they already cut their tariffs that they have
on American goods.
Speaker 6: So, I mean, you know the thing about this is
that the country to me that makes the most sense
for us to subsidize, if we're going to subsidize anything,
is Egypt. Like Egypt seems like like like like whenever
I like do my like mental calculation and everything. I'm like,
why do we Egypt seems like the country over there
that's got the got the highest potential for return on value.
Speaker 2: I mean they control the canal, right.
Speaker 6: Right, yeah, exactly, all kinds there's all kinds of positives
in Egypt that nobody ever investigates, Like you know.
Speaker 4: You know they have like they have like six six
thousand tanks. You know what those tanks are?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got to be I.
Speaker 6: Mean I notice also when the original like when the
when the original ban on, when the original like like
announcement came down that we were ceasing aid, like Egypt
was specifically accepted. So like maybe we are going to
see a play towards towards Egypt pretty soon. This might
just be me too, I'm just partial towards Egypt. I
like Egyptians. I like I like Egypt.
Speaker 2: It's cool.
Speaker 1: I mean between them and if we're going to invest
in places on that continent Egypt and South Africa, places
you want to have control over.
Speaker 4: But you know, Egypt aks are Egypt's aks are amazing.
The closest ak. Yeah, the closest thing. The Mahdi is
the closest thing to a Russian ak on the planet.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
Speaker 4: Well, the Russians built the factory.
Speaker 1: Oh well, well that'll do it then, right, all righty,
let's go back to our one topic as it relates
to legal immigration. And I know this is one that
was a huge story and we cannot ignore this one.
But so Catholic Bishop's organization, this is huge, all right,
sudying drastic government funding cuts, US Catholic bishops said they
were ending a century old program and resettling refugees fleeing
war or persecution. The Bishop's program will also end in
support of undocumented children who come into the United States.
This is amazing, This is great news. It's like that
some of the best news.
Speaker 3: Week I can. I can bitch about this a little bit,
because not to be a I am Catholic, I'm gonna
be sounding slightly simply. But it's not necessarily true that
they they they personally bring people in the problem is
that they want the money from the government to take
care of the people that the government brings in. It
creates a negative, very dirty financial incentive because you know
a lot of these places, the boomers are dying off.
The churches need money and so they take the federal
handout to take care of these people. If the churches
weren't taking that handout, these people would have literally nowhere
to go and would probably just go home because they
have nowhere to live or eat. It's it's one of
those things where like, yeah, I get people are going
to use this like insult the Catholic Church. But and
the US Bishop's Conference is incredibly like liberal and just
gross and needs to be cleared out. But I will
say that like that they're not the ones bring the
people in that they're just taking a paycheck to house them,
which is still bad. It's still bad, it's awful. I'm
glad that they're like letting it go of this like
failed operation.
Speaker 6: Which you Okay, Look, and I would say this as
someone who's recently relapsed into Catholicism.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm apostasized into Catholicism. I've done a lot.
Speaker 6: Like that book Tri State, that book tri Faith America
or whatever it's when of the people that brought that
into the you know, into the sort of discussion.
Speaker 2: The Catholic Church in the United States has traditionally been
a very two sided institution.
Speaker 6: I'm looking really big on the idea all markets have
two sides and everything.
Speaker 2: I actually don't think the US Bishop's Conference is all
that bad.
Speaker 6: But I'm like, I also like I go to norm
nov Ordo Mass and that sort of thing. I'm not like,
I'm not like, I'm not like a turbo like traditional
or anything like that. But to say that they're not
you know, okay, yeah, they're not bringing the you know,
Catholic charities in the United States have been traditionally very bad.
They've been you know, they if you look, when you
look behind, when you look behind the curtain, you almost
always find them. In fact that if you look at
the source of urban the like the reason urban immigration
in the United States was so successful as far back in.
Speaker 2: The nineteen twenties, it's the churches that are doing this.
Speaker 6: It's actually the churches and the churches and the Jewish
mafia that are doing this. Because so what would say
what sort of happens is to use my favorite group Lithuanians.
Lithuanians and Polish people. These are the two that like
that are probably the best examples of this.
Speaker 2: You go into a.
Speaker 6: City like Chicago and you look and you'll see and
you know, everybody tends like e.
Speaker 2: Michael Jones types and that sort of thing.
Speaker 6: They'll look at this and they'll see these Polish Catholic communities,
these Lithuanian Catholic communities, and they'll say, Wow, this wonderful
traditional community that exists in this urban rot or whatever.
Speaker 2: And but the way that.
Speaker 6: Actually happened is, of course, Jews used to be involved
in organized crime and that sort of thing, but they
actually got out of it pretty quickly because they realized
what they could do is they could take their illbigotten
gains in like the liquor liquor trade, the racketeering trade
and that sort of thing, and they could turn it legitimate.
Speaker 2: And the way they would.
Speaker 6: Do this is they would they would loan money to
Catholic churches who would just like so there would be
like a parachuted bunch of Lithuanians that would just suddenly
land in the middle of Chicago and the church would
be the center of their communities where they would do
business and everything like that. And so the Catholic church
would end up they needed, you know, they would they
spotted an opportunity for growth here and you know, community facilitation,
and they would borrow a bunch of money from the
Jewish mafia and like then they would subsequently lend it
back out at like you know, nearly non usurists rates,
and you know, they had this sort of thing worked out.
So the Catholic churches has been doing this in the
United States for the longest time and only let them
entirely off the hook for just providing a place for
these people, because if the place doesn't exist for the people,
they won't keep coming. So like there's this, there is
this sort of thing, and there's a you know, somebody
who went to a like I went to a Jesuit
school in New Orleans where though like it currently there's
an esperanto and a Spanish addendum next to it.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I mean they actually they do this still.
Speaker 6: And there has been for the longest time in the
Latin American world this certain nearly certain knowledge that when
you get to America there will be Catholic charities there
to catch you.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: So this is a this is a big reversal, and
that's that's pretty cool. I didn't know this happened. There
was a lot of talking. I'm sorry, yeah, I got
I gotta go say as that was good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I would say this is actually an institution
that wouldn't be hard to capture away from the left.
It's already started to get some really good people in it,
but further effort has to be done to like you know,
who's who's that like really borderline heretical priest in California
or James Martin, Like he's got to get kicked from
that somehow.
Speaker 4: That's the problem. That's the problem is there's no there's
no policing by the bishops anymore because the bishops are
just as corrupt. So yeah, the best thing that I've
been seeing is like in the last five to six years,
like it's eighty percent of the new new priests the
new ordinance or lean lean to the right. So yeah,
that's good news. And that's just that's just a picture
of what we're seeing in the in the zeitgeist itself,
where you know, more more people are moving to the right,
especially younger people.
Speaker 1: Here here, let's tackle the first round of super chats.
Then we got two stories left and we'll get.
Speaker 2: Out here for the evening.
Speaker 1: So back to the top of our super chat list,
We've got hit Man for a five bucks. He says,
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Speaker 2: We appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Caleb, before you know what, salt snake, you're not in there, man,
you're not in there first. Maybe he's super chat later tonight,
but unacceptable bad behavior from you, sir Caleb for five bucks.
Speaker 2: Uh, the templari is correct. A million gone.
Speaker 1: By July fourth, for this administration has failed. Yeah, they
got to get up the number of deportations. We're all
in agreement on that one.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I made a spicy because AA not exactly
loved amongst us all the time, but he had some
of the good critiques and as far as I could tell,
we're starting to wrap it up, and some of the
things that Stevin Miller was suggesting suggests that there will
be a like like a a pathway to deportation, because
right now it's very like cleaning up. It's it's so
shady and unclear how to get through to it. But
if you can get the documents in some of these
institutions that have been dealing with illegals for like twenty years,
we'll have the data, the addresses and just streamline the process.
Speaker 2: This is why I like, we just keep talking about.
Speaker 1: It's just easier to do the stuff by just making
it unattractive for these people to be here. Get rid
of Spanish on all government contracts and buildings of the
start putting in the remittance tax. Go to hell and
destroy all these companies are actually employing these illegal aliens
and stuff. Cut off all these federal programs. I mean,
these people will just leave. They have no connection to
the land. They're here for the Gibbs. We've known about
this for forever.
Speaker 2: They will leave.
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a short cut on a side road anymore. Sad, I
don't know, man. I mean, I'll I'm gonna be taking
another long road trip throughout the country later this year,
and I'll get back to you on that one. But
I definitely saw some of this when I was driving
around the country last year, so we'll see how much
it's changed in a twelve month period. Chaos tank engine
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I look forward to seeing you once again here very soon.
The Gettysburg event this weekend was a blast and incredibly
white pilling. The Delaware Crossing Society and all the other
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Texas is being sold to every variety of brownoid. Right now,
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shit together down there. You just send like the worst
class of politicians up from Texas aside from like one
honorable mention being like Ron Paul and he's long gone
by now.
Speaker 3: So I don't know.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about one state that is in desperate
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mint twenty four ten bucks. Another week, another bunch of
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So very interesting. Oh look at this here Salid snake
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time for ten evening gents. Absolutely hysterical that all these
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Don Browning, as ever, sends us a twenty Australian dollar
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for it. New England refugee for five bucks, sat I
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hanging out was awesome to watch. Red Hawk advice is
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you all. I mean, if you're coming to the event,
I kind of recommend you guys go hard on like
the first night you get there, so you have a
little bit of time to recover before you leave. I mean,
I can't go hard the first night because I got
an event to run. You know, usually for me, I
actually go hard at the after party when I could
finally relax and the event's finally over with. But yeah,
I definitely pace yourself everyone. You don't want to miss
any of those talks.
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Speaker 5: I remember when these guys use their name, I'm about
to be a New England refugee as well.
Speaker 2: Sorry, there you go.
Speaker 1: I remember you when you came into the event. I'll
last year, Sam. Bet you already were going hard.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 6: I was the quote Bob Dil and I was burned
out from exhaustion. I had just driven nine hours and
like you all, like the location, you successfully spoofed the
location because I had to go pick up.
Speaker 2: I had to go pick up.
Speaker 6: I to go pick up somebody from the from the
Memphis airport, and I was thinking this is gonna be
way closer to Memphis than it really was. And we
had two more the last hour, last hour and a
half of driving, I was like, oh my god, I'm
about to fall asleep on the road.
Speaker 2: Well I was. I was happy to see you give
you a big hug when you arrived. So yeah, all right.
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The boomers are your parents. They will pass money to
their kids. If your parents don't pass money to you,
it's not other boomer fault. I mean maybe I mean
in case my case, I guess. But all right, that's
us for the first round of super chats.
Speaker 4: Maybe we should maybe maybe we should deal with if
we deal with the case cut by case basis when
it comes to boomers, let's deal with a case by
case basis when it comes to immigrants, elital immigrants. You know,
we'll just take our time and know that each one,
and you know, we need to.
Speaker 6: Hire some women to investigate the possibilities, you know, like
the context of each case.
Speaker 2: You know this this needs to be unpacked.
Speaker 4: Have they read have they read Francis Parker Yackey? Are
they part of the high culture.
Speaker 2: Let's I hate that word sam pat.
Speaker 3: So bad.
Speaker 2: They are like two things I can tell like, there
are two things you can.
Speaker 6: Do will be like, I'm immediately not gonna like you
use the word unpacked or have a fish stick or
any on anything that you own.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to the Great State Ohio,
and we just have to talk about this image because well,
number one, I could smell this image from here when
when this was going around. But my god, what is
going on with these meetings of these GOP people in
Ohio laying on hands of Vivi Kuamaswami like a heathen?
Speaker 2: A heathen?
Speaker 1: What gods are they praying to for this guy? The
praying to Anuman, the Vishnu? What's going on here.
Speaker 3: Right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: No, it'd smell wild in there.
Speaker 2: Man, What do you do You guys think he's wearing shoes?
Speaker 4: No, No, he's bare foot right there. He's thinking about
where he's he's thinking about the corner he's gonna ship in.
Speaker 2: Never gets old, he'll never ever get old.
Speaker 1: But we're not just bringing up Vivak once again to
make some Joe's at his expense, even though we always
have fun doing that. But we need to bring attention
to a GOP character who can actually challenge this man,
and we'll actually do a pretty damn.
Speaker 2: Good job of it.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, this is Jim Tressel. People might be
familiar with him if you are college football fans. You know,
who won many national championships throughout his tenure. And he's
actually in the College Football Hall of Fame if I'm
not mistaken. So this guy is actually now currently the
lieutenant governor of Ohio. He's a Republican, you know, college
Football Hall of Famer. This is just like as Ohio
as you can get, right, this is the guy that
people need to start paying attention to. This is the
guy that could challenge vivak Rama Bingbong here for sure.
So I don't know anyone else have any comments on
mister Tressel. I'm saying, bet you might have something to
say on this guy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know anything about anything that happens north
of I forty unfortunately, like Ohio. To me, I'm like, yeah, Chili, yeah,
But you know, I think it's funny that every time
I'm on this show, Vivid Vivid Rama Lama Bingbong comes
up vivic, vivid rama, noodle vimic rama.
Speaker 2: Not gonna be governor of Ohio.
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, he didn't have a chance. It's like, but
you know, the the the actually the only, the only
GOP just to like just sling it out in left field,
the only GOP politician that I've even And to remind you,
I haven't heard Donald Trump's voice since he got elected.
Speaker 2: That's how not paying attention to politics I've been.
Speaker 6: But I did see a guy out in I guess
it was Nevada, who is a classical composer, has decided
to run for Congress.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, all about this.
Speaker 6: That's the only GOP politician that I'm willing to give
the Sam Badge bump too.
Speaker 2: At this point, I'm like.
Speaker 6: Yeah, classical composer, sure, yeah, we need one of those
in Congress. And it's based entirely on that.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I don't know much about what's going on in Ohio,
but Trustle sounds great. Is he related to Jim tru
Is he related?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 6: That's a that's a super like football he name if
it's like a football dynasty, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean I will say that I will say this.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll just say right at the front, Uh,
this guy's politics like they literally just do not matter,
because anyone is going to be better than Vivek Rama
bing Blong in charge of your state, all right. I
mean Ohio is a huge, huge college football state. You
know Buck Guy's this guy coached over at Ohio State.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, this guy is just he's just made
for the role. You can easily rally behind this guy.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear anything about like, oh, like well,
you know, he's not like super base and this like
one certain issue or stuff. That's not the point here.
But the point is is that you're trying to actually
name this guy into the position of actually running the
state he actually is in Ohian. You know, he's actually
going to you know, like he's a heritage American. The
very least he should be in charge of his own state.
It should not be Vivek Ramish Miami. We fucking vote
with the Democrat instead of voting from Vivek at this point,
we'd be better for your state.
Speaker 4: Anyway.
Speaker 2: Anyone else have any points on this one?
Speaker 5: MM, I don't know who this guy is.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's at least externally, some people who are
very pro Indian, you know, Indian governing magistrate like Elon
Musk have started to seemingly publicly change their opinion. Whether
privately they actually have has yet to been seen, but
it it just seems like like this is one of
those things where you you're kind of creating an accidental
humiliation ritual forced on your on your supporters, like yeah,
take back America, now vote for this guy that's not
from well, okay, he's born in America as much as
illegal is. It's like detached from the culture. Vivic is like,
it's for me, I'm not as racist as all you
for me. It's basically he's a fucking heathen, unrelated any
European culture whatsoever, and he has to just be kicked out.
And I'm a good Catholic boy. I try to keep things.
But in this case, it's like all the above reasons
why you shouldn't vote for Pivic, any reason you want
to give, it's it's a good reason not to vote
for him. He's obviously a con artist, his history is
full of bullshit. He's a foreigner by blood and by faith.
He's just this this like graft On, like attempt, like
you ever played Crusader Kings two and and you really
want this, this like alliance with some foreign power, and
you like have to do an arranged marriage with someone
you really don't want to to keep the alliance. And
it kind of feels like this is like like an
arranged marriage with some Indian client tele that we don't
know about, and like nobody asks for this, nobody wants this,
but we have to do this for the alliance. No,
fuck that, We're not in Carsada Kings too, We're in
reality exactly.
Speaker 1: People are saying like rhino in the chat and stuff.
I mean, listen, I know Ohio has a history of
a lot of like rhino politicians, right, and let us
not even forget that jd. Vance was the center from
Ohio and wasn't very fond of Trump at the very beginning. Well,
I mean, like a rhino is better than a literal foreigner.
I mean, do you guys doesn't even really think for
a moment that vivek Ramaswami is going to solve the
Haitian problem you know in Springfield? Do you think that
that problem is going to be solved under his administration? No,
it's just going to get worse. It's gonna import all
these people. I mean, this is the guy. You can
create a meme around this guy. You know, it's just
college football, man, come to save a state. That's all
you need.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: It'll play very very well for Ohians. And then was
an Ohian in the chat. Either you rally behind this
guy or you find somebody better, because you cannot let
vivek Ramaswami become governor of the state. Just cannot be
allowed to happen. Imagine the I mean, we saw what
happened across the pond, right, We're in a very short
period of time. All four countries in the UK were
all ruled by Indian men in a very short period
of time. You just cannot open the door of this
kind of stuff. Cannot be allowed, all right, Moving on
to our final story of the evening, which is why
everyone really was gathered here in the very first place,
because oh boy, yeah, yeah, I know, pe the storm
took out your power just for five seconds for you
to come back and join in on the story that
you really wanted to talk about. All right, But this
is perhaps one of the coolest things has ever happened
in the history of anything, And Samwich and I were
talking about this the other night, a bunch of other
like naysayers, you know, we're being mad about this one.
But I mean everyone's heard it to death. I heard
it in my tax practice from Normy's coming into the
office NonStop. This one broke containment. But yes, so colossal
bio engineering has decoded the entire genome of the dire
wolves through ancient fossilized teeth, fossilized skullbone, and they have
altered the genomes of gray wolves with the fourteen different changes,
and they have produced what are effective extinct dire wolves.
And there's three of them now. And I never I'll
tell you this much. This is not what I thought
was I was going to be reading on Monday morning.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it just sort of burst onto the scene and
I but you know, this is like one of those
things where it's very obviously you know, they used AI
to do it. And so I think, you know a
lot of people I see a lot of the like
normal accounts being like what what point what you say're
literally doing the like you know, the Jurassic Park things
like you know, you didn't stop to think if you
should or whatever. But I mean at think and then
there's of course also the people that are talking about
there's a real dire wolf or anything like that. You know, well,
I'll have to let to let templar and Noil scowlar
go like go talk before I.
Speaker 2: You know, sort of respond to that.
Speaker 6: But you know, I would point out that this is,
to my mind, actually maybe the single coolest thing humans
have ever done, and like and I come at this
almost from a religious perspective, like a sort of Blakyan
religious perspective, where I sort of look at all of
human history and for when you see, you know, human
We've talked about the passenger pigeon already here, you know,
we've talked about already here today, we've talked about the
Carolina parakeet here today. The history of the history of
human advance, of human progress so far has generally been
to the detriment of the natural world. And sort of
my overarching you know ideology is I sort of I
call it the garden ideology, where I sort of believe
that it's the Englishman's destiny to sort of like to
govern and maintain the entire world.
Speaker 2: As a garden.
Speaker 6: This marks the first non catabolic turn in the sort
of in the sort of historical trajectoris we talk about
from William Blake with that we've built Jerusalem in England's
green and pleasant land. This to me sort of marks
the turnaway from catabolicis to generativity. So this is the
first time we've ever been able to this first time
we've ever been not move materials around, not not like say,
you know, take this rock and turn it over here
and turn it into a into a big into a
cute cathedral or something like that. This is the first
time we've ever been able to take something that we've done,
something that we removed, something that humans removed, and we've
been like, okay, we're going to reintroduce it. You know,
it's there's there's there's some sort of massively redemptive sort
of metaphysical aspect, you know, to to to this action.
Speaker 2: That to me is it's absolutely incredible.
Speaker 6: It's like, I mean not even kidding when I say
this is the coolest thing people have ever done, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm certainly incredibly excited for this kind of stuff.
I mean, obviously people know my extreme passion for paleontology
and also for the wild world, and immediately when I
saw a picture of these things, and Sam Machigano.
Speaker 6: Well, I just I just saw the I just saw
the little ones initially, and when you told me there
were more pictures of the other ones, I looked at
him and I was like, WHOA.
Speaker 1: Well, the thing is you can immediately tell a well, yeah,
let's listen to these howls here, because they're nothing like
our wolves howls. It doesn't sound anything like them.
Speaker 5: That's a little chilling, or at least it will be
when they're not little babies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're already grown up.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it's so crazy because these two ones
that were watching these are the two the first two
they bred were two males named Romulus and Remiss, and
they're about five to six months old now, and these
things are already the size of full grown American gray wolves.
And it's nuts and they're gonna get even bigger. I mean,
just looking at the anatomy is different. They have the
large humped shoulders because they have bigger bone structure. The
tail is longer, the ears are bigger, they have more
fluff and scruff around their necks, which you know, people
think that this is just like in lions. People assume
like a lion's mane is just there for show like, No,
it's actually there for combat as well. It's actually protective
gear around the neck to prevent from other males from
biting you. And these wolves had similar features on them
as well. But it's just amazing, man that I don't
know if anyone else listened to the CEO of this company,
they got them interviewed on Joe Rogan a couple of
days ago, and listening to the next set of projects
that these guys have, you know, things like mammoths and
Tasmanian tigers and stuff like that, I mean, de extinction.
I personally believe this is absolutely something we should be doing.
It's our duty to preserve the natural world. I mean,
Anglo's invented conservation and Americans perfected it, all right, and
this is really it is our duty. You know, these
things were removed from the environment. They shouldn't have been,
and they should be put back and it should be
managed as well.
Speaker 5: To anyone else not know that the dire wolf was
a real animal that went extinct, way, did you not?
Speaker 2: They've been around and you know, they it's sort of interesting.
They were They were global at one point.
Speaker 6: But their last readouts were in Western United States, so
like like California up to like British Columbia, and they
were they were around as recently as ten thousand years ago.
Speaker 2: Like like, there's.
Speaker 6: Significant crossover between the dire wolf population and you know, arguably.
Speaker 2: Civilization, depending on how you want to define the civilization.
Speaker 4: You know, are they doing this on an island off
of Costa Rica and is Michael Crichton.
Speaker 2: We can only hope.
Speaker 6: We can only hope they literally did they literally did
the frog DNA thing. That's why, you know, that's why
people are like, you know, people have been looking. It's
not really a dire wolf or whatever. And I do
have an argument in favor. I do an argument why
this is you know it actually it doesn't really matter
what you call it, but it's something that has the
potential to grow into a dire wolf. We actually and seid,
we created a speciation event, which is like, we created
the first instance that I can think of something that
doesn't have to be governed. It can actually reproduce itself,
and it can actually you know, it can actually it
can actually formulate itself to whatever sort of biological niche
you know, we can sort of fit it into this
thing that it's going to start changing on its own.
But it's based on what was It's based on the
genome of this thing that was called the dire wolf,
you know. And but they literally did the frog DNA
thing and that's why, you know, that's why you know
they're talking about the fourteen there's fourteen points of mutation.
You know.
Speaker 1: One of the things that I want to talk about
is the fall off from this has been kind of
disturbing to me in a sense of, you know, I
can buy the argument people saying like, oh, like you
shouldn't be going down this route of like creating life
in this way and like playing god. I can understand
that argument. The thing I can't get behind, and the
thing that actually pisses me off is when people are
just openly saying, oh, this isn't a big deal. You know,
they're like rules lowering and actually saying like, no, this
is all fake news. This isn't real science. They didn't
actually create this, and they actually didn't bring it back
because it's not technically a dial wolve. It's like, no, dude,
like this isn't like cloning Dolly of the sheep like
what they did here. This is a species that does
not exist anywhere else on the planet.
Speaker 2: Period.
Speaker 1: They've gone through enough mutations and enough changes to the
genetic code that they had fully mapped out of an
extinct animal, and they just brought it back to life.
They basically did everything that could have possibly done to
make this thing as close as possible to the actual
thing without stepping into a time machine and bringing it
back like the literal animal. These things can reproduce that
by themselves, which is already an amazing feat to begin
with already. And if you have something that exhibits all
of the traits of an extinct animal, I mean like,
call it whatever you want, but it functionally is the thing.
Speaker 4: Shall I?
Speaker 3: Shall I have my little monologue on the science go? So, so,
as has been mentioned, they start They started with an
American gray wolf DNA code and the dire wolf DNA code.
Just a quick note on that. So most times DNA
starts breaking down after just one hundred years. But think
about it this way. The breakdown occurs at random points
in the DNA and you have like a billion cells
to scrape the data from. In the initial couple of
thousand years after something dies. So you can take all
these billions of fragments from different cells in the bones
and kind of basically get a sense of like, okay,
here's the full segment. They are like a couple of
thousand breaking down parts of each individual DNA thread in
each individual cell. But when you map out like a
couple hundred of them, it becomes very obvious what goes where,
and it's kind of like you have It's kind of
like you have a you have like a billion copies
of the same Shakespeare and there's like a missing scent,
a single missing sentence from each individual one that are different,
but you have enough of the overall text to get
get get the full picture that makes sense, So like
each one is damaged uniquely, but overall you see the
full thing. So they took the I guess you could
say the appearance of the dire wolf. It's fur, it's maine,
it's ears, it's it's skull shape and bone thickness, probably
some growth hormone initiating uh sequences that that occur when
when a species enter puberty, mammals specifically, and I think
they were like a couple basically, like a couple of
hundred short segments that were that make the dire wolf unique,
and then they replaced those segments in the gray wolf DNA,
probably probably using Crisper, but there are other methods. Crisper's
kind of old technology now, and essentially you you create
these like little insertion pieces in the DNA segment and
you can insert something that will replace the existing DNA
in pretty standardized bit sized bit sizes. So what you're
looking at is is something that's basically a d It
would it would be more accurate to say a de
evolved gray wolf, if that makes sense.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: Now, you know, if you if you took this and
put it in a herd of gray wolves, it would
probably be able to reproduce with that. It's probably fundamentally
just a gray wolf with some appearances. I would not
say that this is a new speed a resurrect sorry,
red Hawk. I would not say this is a quote
unquote resurrected species. What it What it is is taking
the appearances the genes that inform the appearances of a
species and putting in another one, which which is basically
a larger, more complex version of what they did with
the wooly. With the wooly mice this company did a
few months back. Uh that actually, in that instance, they
didn't even really take the DNA of a wooly mammoths,
for they took the individual DNA mutations of for you know,
all mammals have for this kind of similar DNA across
the field, and reproduced the mutations in a wooly mammoth
in the mice. So's it's really more like engineered mutations
than inserting a new DNA segment or replacing it. That's
probably also what they did here. I tried to find
any articles documenting what exactly they did. I could I
couldnot find any scientific journal postings that that listed the
specific traits that they did or changed. So for now
we can't We can't know for certain changing a couple
hundred genomes isn't isn't terribly hard. Currently the technology is
not up to snuff to recreate an entire genome from
a species and put it into the embryo of another.
This this is just a fundamental engineering problem because when
DNA segments get long, they start getting entangled interacting with
each other, and they start like cutting each other off
into pieces. Essentially, like if you imagine you have ten
thousand base pairs, which is like equivalent of saying ten
thousand bits of genetic data, and there's like a couple
of segments along that that are close enough together. Let
me pause there. DNA repeats a lot because it's only
four letters, and overall there will be unique segments, but
at a like pair by pair basis, there's a lot
of repeats, a lot of similar type tendencies because the
basic way evolution works is that a gene will be
duplicated and then the duplicate will start to gradually mutate
over generations. But while that duplication is new, those two
duplicated genes are so similar that they will entangle with
each other in the cell without proper maintenance and oftentimes
cause infertile or or non viable offspring. So right, yeah, well,
well no direct cloning is just is just taking the
nucleus of one cell and putting in another. That that's
not hard. I'm talking about individual when you're printing out
the DNA, the individual thread of DNA, the four let
the four letters combinations. When it gets long enough, it
starts accidentally looping into itself, so it's no longer a
DNA thread. It becomes like rings of DNA that have
merged and cut each other off from each other, so
it becomes very unstable. You have to use chromos chromosomeal
stability proteins to keep it stable as it prints out.
And that technology is not yet really viable right now.
It might be in a few years. And and with
the goal that with these tiny protein structures that stabilize
the DNA in a cell, you could theoretically stabilize the
DNA thread as it prints and create full length genomes,
which would be basically the ability to engineer entire organisms
from scratch. We're not there yet, we will be soon,
but if you will.
Speaker 6: If you want a visual, if you want a visual
sort of explanation for what he's just saying right here.
If you imagine you just boiled a pot of spaghetti
and you didn't use any olive oil or something like that,
as you pull that spaghetti out of that out of
it's going to start to stick together. Because like you know,
these they're only and also you can think of DNA
as a sort of language. It's not incredibly phonemically rich.
There's only so many sort of there's only so many
sort of lighter combinations that you have, and these things
will tend to stick to one another, okay, and so
like they'll they'll, they'll they'll want to make a big goop,
you know, like like sort of like like like spaghetti
will if you don't if you know, if you don't
lubricate it and prevent it from sticking together.
Speaker 3: Your your cell has a number of proteins it creates
to prevent DNA from getting entangled and messy. There their
stability proteins. When you're making DNA in a lab, you're
not making those proteins. So the DNA can only be
so long before it starts self nothing and ripping itself
to pieces from chemical forces. Again, DNA is a language,
but unlike language that you write, this is a language
that exists as physical medium rather than conceptual medium. So
it has to obey chemical rules, and that makes it
very difficult to say anything too long because your your
sentences will literally start to entangle with each other without
proper stability. So what what I'm getting at is that
this can be categorized as a subspecies. I think red
Agg said that it is a subspecies of the gray wolf,
though it is not a subspecies of the dire wolf,
is a subspecies of the gray wolf that has been
engineered to look like the dire wolf.
Speaker 2: Well, then look, this is where I have to sort
of start pushing back.
Speaker 6: And I will agree that that this is not the
dire wolf that split off from the gray wolf, you know,
phylogeny five point seven million years ago. But we have
like real questions now, like what exactly is a species?
Speaker 2: And is what is a species? That is the concept
of species?
Speaker 6: This is it an idealism that's not necessarily all that real?
Speaker 2: And I really like that de evolution analogy because it's
really we've done here.
Speaker 6: You've just inserted, you've just what you've done this, you've isolated, uh,
you've isolated bits of like this would almost be like
us going back in and like sort of deciding to reinsert,
you know, sort of traits that would be like involved
that would be present in ancient Egyptians that aren't necessarily
present today sort of de evolved.
Speaker 2: It is what you've done.
Speaker 6: But you know, like what it's does it really to
what extent? Does it actually matter what you decide to
name it? Okay, it's a dire wolf or whatever, this
is a this is a wolf, it's a cannid. You know,
it's I think that's an idealism that we can sort
of continue to run with now as a heuristic.
Speaker 2: But like, what actually is the.
Speaker 6: Difference between a red wolf, gray wolf, dire wolf?
Speaker 2: How much does it actually matter here? You know, that's
the question that.
Speaker 3: Is a good This is important to bring up because
up until around the nineteen seventies, the definition of a
species was it can breed with each other, like things
that can breed with each other are parts of the
same species. But in the nineteen seventies, in order to
there was a like, you know, an invented environmental crisis,
and so one of the strategies environmentalists and biologists did
to make an ecological disaster where none existed was redefine
the definition of a species from things that can breed
with each other to things that prefer to breed with
each other. Key difference. So if you have two populations
that are basically the same species, but they don't prefer
to breed with each other even though they can, then
they're categorized now as two species rather than two populations
of the same species. And this was the human beings,
right yeah, I could go into that. So anytime a
breeding population was wiped out, they could say, oh, a
species is going to extinct, we need funding to prevent
that from happening to the other breeding popular that they're
calling species, when in reality, the species didn't really go extinct.
It's just a popular a breeding population of that species
died out. There's plenty of other breeding populations. A good
example of this is the the white rhinoceros is in Africa.
Now there's like five or something different species of white
rhinoceros even though there's just one, and they can all
breed to each other, but they're like a couple miles
apart from each other, so they call them different species
because they don't breed with each other even though they can.
So this creature, like, if we're working with the older
definition of species, this is a gray wolf. This is
a cool looking gray wolf. If we're going with the
modern definition of species, it's a new species. If you
wanted to force it to become an actual new species,
you could introduce several artificial junk DNA mutations, so the
non encoding DNA segments that would make its DNA its
gam meets like the sex organs incompatible with the American
gray wolf. At that point, you you would have bootstrapped
these breeding pairs to be a new species because they
can no longer produce viable offspring with American gray wolves.
That would be an artificial way to keep their population
pure in a certain sense, so that further generations from
these first ones could only breed with each other, and
even if accidentally came into contact with gray wolves, they
would not be able to produce vible offspring. At that point,
you will have artificially invented a new species through the
introduction of these junk DNA offsets. Because when you change
the length of the junk junk DNA is basically segments
of DNA that don't encode. Like the parts of the
cell that print out proteins from the DNA simply skip
those segments. They exist naturally as essentially cancer buffers, so
that mutations are more likely to happen in these large
segments of unused DNA rather than on the viable protein segments.
But the thing is, when you change the length of
junk DNA, when the sex organs merge and when the
sperm meets egg, the longer DNA trail with a lot
of extra junk DNA can no longer merge with the
with the original egg DNA or vice versa, so they're
no longer genetically compatible. You know, this question of species
actually stems from the colonial era because when humans came
into contact with Aboriginal Australians, this thing that had a
vastly different skull shape and posture and look to their bodies,
people wanted to categorize them as a as a local
fauna rather than a human. And it's it's true that
the Aboriginal Australian has a unique set of genes that
make its its head archaic. It has I think eighty
thousand year old genes for how human skulls used to look,
but it can still like our Aboriginals can still produce
offspring with with any other race, so like they're technically human.
But people who wanted to categorize them as non humans
so they could kill them way to categorism as a
different species. So in many ways, this effort to redefine
species does them from a certain desire to white people
off because they're not humans. They are.
Speaker 5: But that's funny, I didn't know this, but Aboriginal Australians
are actually closer to Europeans than Sub Saharan Africans, and
the eighty thousand year number, yeah, yeah is usually what
people say. I know some people don't like out of
Africa theory, but I currently still think it's it's the
best idea. Eighty thousand years is actually about when that
human group that the Australians split off from what became
white people of Europeans.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, old Europeans that Yeah, Chromagnum, the ancestor of
Europeans had those genes for that skull shape that the
Aboriginals have, but they went through further environmental pressures to
essentially make the schoolship that Europeans have today, while the
population that went east towards Australia maintained those traits. But
fun fact, my my dad's Apple group is like an
old European line. It's not an Indo European line. So
it's it's it's pre you, you would say in in
Meme language, it's pre airing gene line. So my my
dad's gene heritage when he the DNA test, it's it
was most similar to populations that went towards Australia in
the deep history and like my mom, Now I'm not black,
I'm I'm white. I'm an Irishman, half Irish. But that
that word, those those those pre Steppe Ariyan European populations
are more related to Aboriginal Australians than Africans because that
population group split off and then ten twenty thousand years
later the Steppeeians came out of the the caucases into
the west.
Speaker 5: Even the yan Naya, even the the Indo Europeans were
closer related to Australians. That's yeah, cool that it's very lately,
that Haplo group.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it is very rare. It's it's a very
very very ancient line that went originally eastwards, split off
somewhere in Indonesia and then one group went back west. Yes,
the line divided somewhere in Indonesia. One population went back
west all the way to Europe and the other population
went all the way east to Australia. It's it's a
very bizarre heritage. So you'll sometimes get like like ten
percent of the Irish population has these like weird genes
that you only find in Australia and Asia, as like
how why but they're they're fundamentally European. They're just what's
what's categor They're categorized as old Europeans. You can google
that on your own.
Speaker 5: I I understand, well, yeah, you're yeah, you're the anthropologist here,
you get that, but most people might not. Ireland is
our one B Yeah, those are one B place, Yeah
in Europe.
Speaker 1: Which if this, if this was a mister d Space,
we'd be hearing that right about now.
Speaker 3: To get back on topic on on dire wolves, I'm
looking forward to there. I think there they'll probably try
to do the Dodo or the mammoth next. But what
they're probably going to do is they're going to take
a It will have to be a small if they're
going to use the Siberian mammoth jeans, those are smaller
elephants there. They were a you know, islandification of species.
They get smaller the Siberian population that where they found them,
the still juicy mammoth mummies with rich amounts of DNA deposits.
Those elephants are only really going to be able to
be birthed from smaller Indian or other populations of elephants.
So they'll probably take an Indian elephant or some smaller
population of elephants, and they will insert the William mammoth
fur jeans and tusk genes and a few other genes
and claim that they resurrected the mammoth when it's just like,
you know, you change the shader on the three D
model basically.
Speaker 5: Want I'm gonna hunt it?
Speaker 2: No, yeah, I mean I'm basically I'm actually the reason
I'm totally cool with this, and the reason I am
is because you know, this is like I had a joke.
Let me just tell you joke.
Speaker 3: I'm mostly I'm I'm most eager for them to resurrect
the extinct Carthaginian elephant species because only then can we
conquer Africa.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 6: But I mean I'm totally okay with this because I mean,
this is the kind of thing that, like, you.
Speaker 2: Know, really the argument a lot of people what are
you going to do with this? Like where are you
gonna put this thing or whatever?
Speaker 6: And I'm like, yeah, okay, but like people are just
not going to get excited about the possibility of gene
editing the ecosystem starting with the foundational bacteria from the
ground up, which is like, you know, from a utilitarian
standpoints probably the direct and they should go They're like,
this stuff still needs enough funding. And I'm actually sort
of glad that they're not publishing. They're they're not showing
their work because it means because it means they're serious.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm actually very excited to re nature the Siberian
wastes to have like like like like an icy savannah
full of mega fond.
Speaker 1: It should we should absolutely do it totally doing in
Northern Canada, do it out west as well. I mean,
these things need to be managed if they are to
be released. But you know, like you know, the like
the the thing that like the pushback that people are getting.
It's like, oh, you're gonna you're gonna introduce like a
super like extinct mega predator back into the wilds, and
like Chad, yes, yeah, literally, yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I want to do this.
Speaker 6: I want to that people who complain about this is
the same people that are like filling national parks with
trash and like like getting getting out of their car
to go like within five steps of a grizzly bear
to take a picture and then they get mauled.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, okay, I.
Speaker 1: Want to convert the entire Indian subcontinent into a game
reserve entirely.
Speaker 3: Are you Are you guys familiar, Are you guys familiar
with Thomas Jefferson's obsession with mammoths. Yes, yes, there is
a patriotic reason why we should bring back the mammoth
for America's two hundred fiftieth anniversary, to resort to to
to fulfill Jefferson's dream. Because Jefferson was convinced somewhere out
there there must still be mammoths. He he commissioned I
think Lewis and Clark actually one of the reasons he
sent them out was to find mammoths.
Speaker 2: Yes, so it's in the documents.
Speaker 3: There is a a colonial American heritage to resurrect here
and fulfilling Thomas Jefferson's dream of hunting mammoths in the
American West. We must do it for America's two hundred
fifty birthday.
Speaker 6: My favorite Jefferson mammoth story is that he had he
had a skeleton of one ship to France. When he
was there, of course then the French Revolution was starting.
He was so fucking excited to show all these French
people this mammoth and they were like they were just
so they were intensely disinterested.
Speaker 2: And he was just mad at him. He was like,
this thing is so understand.
Speaker 3: He was autistic in his own way, and he's a
sensitive young man who wanted to hunt big game animals.
And I say, you know, he would tell the French
that the mammoth was was still alive somewhere and they
should help him find it. But I would say, I
will not rest until I visit Monticello and see a
a local little mammoth living on the site, cared for
by the locals as a as a and call him Tommy,
just to keep Thomas Jefferson's goo staffy.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: So in conclusion, Fellows, because I know Pete is ready
to stab himself. You know, listen to this story for
so long, but this is an incredible moment. I'm really
excited to see what they do next. I'm totally for
rewilding and de extincting as many species as possible, and
this absolutely should be done. We're the only people that
can do it. And I look very forward to seeing
what this company is going to do next. And if
they ever get have the opportunity to go and see
these things, I will be one of the first people
to sign up and do it, because this is just
one of the coolest things ever.
Speaker 2: So let's go through the rest of the lead.
Speaker 4: If this leads us to a more Ted Kazinsky type world,
I'm all for it.
Speaker 3: I'll effectively get water.
Speaker 1: But you guys go on, all right, let's go through
the rest of the super chats and then we'll get
out here for the evening. So Xenrath for twenty five bucks,
I would kindly ask mister Rama Bingbong make way for
better candidates and please take the next trained India. Yep,
wouldn't that be nice? Aspiring misanthrope for three bucks. Ogce
twenty five is a no go as it's on my
wedding day. Oh well, congratulations you sir, but there's always
next year. Play the most longhouse saunder you got for me,
please cheers.
Speaker 2: Circumcision right, circumcision.
Speaker 1: Alrighty basque dude for five bucks. Why is it so
much cheaper to import timber than it is to cut
the timber we have in south and northeast? Is the
industry subsidized in Canada? Oh, it's massively subsidized. Uh in Canada.
Of the lumber industry. Let's not say it on this
topic too long because Sandbach is gonna go off about
trees again, which is actually one of the more enjoyable
topics that we've had for the evening. But we must
wrap up. So Lorden corst Or Ashion for two bucks.
I hope he puts Vivek back in the locker.
Speaker 2: Damn right? Will that be nice? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, that's so funny.
Speaker 2: Lavend Is for ten bucks.
Speaker 1: Vivec is an anchor baby, correct, he should have his
citizenship revoked and be deported.
Speaker 2: Yep. True.
Speaker 1: Billy Old Bradley for ten bucks. It's a supersticker of
a pair flying through the air like a superhero. Nice
all right, Chief fourteen w for three bucks. Thoughts on
using this tech for eugen x I E Make your
child tall a ten eyes, et cetera. Not for use
on humans, used for animal only. Moving on, so and
then finally, Christopher Keyes, I remember meeting this guy for
five bucks. Salute from the Oklahoma Hills. I'm pleased to
announce the birth of a son and future member. Well
good for you, sir, fantastic doing my part to fight
the LaGrande replacement.
Speaker 2: Yep, well good.
Speaker 1: For you, sir, and congratulations to your new baby boy. Fantastic.
All right, let's get some shillings out of the way, Quiny,
what do you have to promote?
Speaker 3: Sir? I am uh trying to get back into writing.
I have two articles I'm trying to finish. One is
about there's a scene from Gatica where you know, one
brother asked the other how do you make it across
this big thing that they were swimming. It's like, that's
the thing I didn't plan to come back. And I
think we all I've said a few times on these
streams where like we have to recognize that if if
Trump does fail and Democrats come back, we're we're all done.
We're all over. And I think that that needs to
be reminded of as we are getting some letdowns and
some exceptions and some some pandering, but we have to
stay the course. And the other article is just going
to be about the history of pizza in New York
because I think there's there's a history of empires in
that interesting.
Speaker 2: All right, Pete, what do you have, sir?
Speaker 4: Pea show pizza substack dot com. That's it, all right?
Speaker 1: Coo cool, mister illegitimate scholar thank you for coming on, sir.
What do you have to promote?
Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks for having me illegitimate scholar tube?
Speaker 2: All right, cool, that's yeah, all right.
Speaker 1: Definitely go check that out and be on the lookout
on the horizon for the conversation the two of us
had together. The real Redhawk showed up this time, so
everyone be on the lookout for that when that eventually releases.
And mister Sandbatch always pleasure to speak with you, my friend.
Do you have anything to promote?
Speaker 6: It's like I said, this is my this is my
favorite place to hang out, which I shouldn't say because
I have more to shill than I normally do tonight,
which is that you know, like normally tonight, Cap and
I are over. I'm filling in for tr Hudson while
he takes a step back as the co host on
Library Mass Destruction, which we're doing Friday Nights Night. We're
doing Friday Night this week because Caps out killing a
hooker or something like that, and.
Speaker 2: It's what allowed me to be on this show tonight.
Speaker 6: I'm not chilling the Twitter anymore, though y'all should get
me to seven thousand. I've took a promise I'll stop
writing poetry when y'all get me to seven thousand followers,
and then I'll go back to doing normal stuff.
Speaker 2: But then I say this, also, I've been writing a
lot of poetry.
Speaker 6: I think I'm at like forty five original poems in
the last couple of months. I'm probably gonna publish them
in a book, so I'm gonna do that. I've got
two novels that I'm working on. One nobody's gonna be
interested in. The other one is a kind of like
sort of James Bonddesk Texas war thriller that I think
people will like. And then you know, there's my substack.
The substack is the one I'm really interested in growing
right now. But I actually also don't like substack very
much as an interface, or as a company or is anything.
Speaker 2: So I think what else to do is I just
do too much doing too much, Yeah, exactly doing too
much at one time, so it's getting too noisy. So
I think, actually, what.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna do is maybe make my own homepage, which
is dangerous thing to do because nobody ever clicks links anymore.
But then I'll pipe the substack into it, and then
you know, I got all kinds of projects. I got
all kinds of projects going everywhere at once. But if
there's one that I would really like to show, it's
the War two. It's the Library of Mass Destruction and Substack.
And thank you also for writing along with me while
I go through this liked midlife crisis, writing poetry and
that sort of thing. You all been wonderful, Like there's
been almost no follower decay, and I'm like, what the hell.
Speaker 1: Well, sam ATCHI have a lot to offer, and you know,
you're a very interesting mind. So if people would like
to hear more of his musings, please join mister D's
Twitter spaces, which occur many times a week, and Sam
Batch and myself are often guests on there. So if
you're a late night a lurker, go around and listen
to us talk about literally anything. You never know what
we're gonna talk about. Yeah, it's literally just a complete
grab bag for myself. I'll be on Post zero this
Sunday with Kyle Matovac and Jack Mapier and the rest
of the boys and everyone. I've been chilling you for
a couple of weeks, but it's going to be so
exciting and tons of fun. The annual April fifteenth stream.
My good friend Chad Elkins's channel will be occurring next
week to celebrate the end of tax season, so please
come on over and listen to us. I'm sure a
bunch of people will be making appearance over there, and
it's just going to be a one of those party
atmosphere chill streams that everyone likes to listen to. So
if anyone wants to hear us talk about our tax
season woes and drink copious amounts of alcohol on stream,
please go over and join my good friend Chad Elkins,
CPA for the April fifteenth stream. I'll be over there
for sure as soon as I'm back from the office,
which will probably be very late. So that's what we
got coming up, and of course we'll be back here
for Pony Express.
Speaker 2: Radio next week. We'll see you guys then