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Speaker 1: And welcome. Welcome everybody. Hello, how are you welcome to

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the Big podcast. It is Tuesday. Today is the last

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day of the month, the last day of the quarter.

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It's September thirtieth year of Our Lord, twenty twenty five.

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My name is Tom Sullivan. Before if I forget to

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mention it later, one of the things about the end

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of a quarter Wall Street is just ignore it. I

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don't know what it's going to do, but just ignore it.

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Because a lot of the major the hedge funds, the

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mutual funds, all the big money managers out there, they

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basically do what's called window dressing before the end of

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the court because that's when they have to print what

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their results have been and what they have as part

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of their portfolio and all that so, and then tomorrow

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it will be unwined whatever it was that they did

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the window dressing with to make it look better, and

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then a couple of days later we'll get back to normal. Meantime,

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how you doing. We've got a lot to go over today.

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This morning there was the big confab at Quantico, Virginia

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with all the generals and admirals along with the Defense

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War Secretary Pete Hagsith and the President also showed up,

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which brings up the whole question about leadership. We've got

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the government shut down. Sorry, I didn't mean to chuckle,

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so it might. I mean, you know, they get all

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I'm all excited in Washington about this is Oh my gosh,

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we're going to shut down the government. It doesn't I don't.

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I don't mean to be blase about it, but it's

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a whole hum moment. Listen, if it shuts down for

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a day or two or three, it's not going to

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do anything other than give a bunch of government employees

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a couple of days off. They'll get their pay. Oh no,

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they'll get their pay later. I think who the way

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to solve this is to cut off the pay for

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members of Congress and do not, under any circumstances let

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them recoup that payment later on. No, you don't do

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your work, you don't get paid. That'll never happen because

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they're the ones who have to pass that. But I

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think it would be admirable. I would vote for somebody

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who voted for that. So that's that's tonight, and get

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the federal fiscal year ends on September thirtieth, and so

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we'll get into a little bit of the of the

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finger pointing going on today. Harry Enton has some comments

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about the Democrat Party I'll share with you, and Charlie

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Kirk's group TP Turning Point USA has a has a

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a event at a college campus tonight in Utah, Yeah,

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Utah State in Logan, Utah. So we'll touch base on

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that as well. Let's let's start, if we may, with

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how the day started this morning. There they were all

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the generals and admiralson couldn't see they had a camera

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in the back of First of all, I was even

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surprised that they televised this. I thought there was no way,

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but everybody had no They were covering it live. I

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saw a Fox had it, CNN had a bunch of

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people had it. And the camera was in the back

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of a of a big auditorium. I think there's eight

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hundred generals and admirals something like that. So it was

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a broom that was probably held a thousand. It was

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pretty full and from the back of the room all

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you could see was a bunch of ball guys and uh,

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gray haired guys. So there're yeah, well, there's no kids

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that are that are generals or admirals. So uh. Anyway,

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they were very attentive and like a good military gathering,

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there's no applause, there's no cheering, there's no whistling. Uhuh,

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none of that. So it was rather I don't know.

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There was a lot of people that seemed to like it.

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And one of them that surprised me General Wesley Clark,

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who is a former NATO commander. He uh, I mean

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he was for the I mean he commanded NATO force.

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This is when he was a four star general in

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our US Army. But I mean, he's got a illustrious career,

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but he's a big lefty and he doesn't usually like

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anything that Republicans do, especially Donald Trump. But listen to

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what he had to say about the big meeting at Quantico, and.

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Speaker 2: There were parts of that speech I really liked, and

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that was part of it that was political. I'll tell

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you what I really liked. We learned in Vietnam, and

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I was one of those men that fought in Vietnam

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and spent a lot of my career reflecting on it,

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that you should not commit American forces unless you commit

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him to a decisive objective and go in to win.

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I worked with General Colin Powell on the preparation for

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General John Wickham to become the Army Chief of Staff

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in eighty three, and we wrote that to General Wickham

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in his book, that his transition book, and that was

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the watchword of the Defense Department. Asked for Weinberger with

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secretary with General Powell was there. They put it in

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the Weinberger doctrine. Yes, we did that in the Gulf War.

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the army's revenge for Vietnam. We won decisively. That was

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who we were. So I liked that part of the speech.

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But the military has to serve overall national policy as well.

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So during the nineteen nineties, after the collapse of the

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Soviet Union, we did use our forces in other means.

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We stopped slaughter in Rwanda. We used them to end

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a vicious war in Yugoslavia. We stopped ethnic cleansing in

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Yugoslavia twice with the use of military forces, created a

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new nation. After nine to eleven, the nation felt it

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was at war. We went to Afghanistan. That was a

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fight we had to have. Maybe it wasn't done right.

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We didn't actually get Osama Bin Laden. But those men

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that went there were all trained by people who fought

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in Vietnam, by those of us who believed in decisive victory.

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We did win a decisive victory over the Taliban, just

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didn't know what to do with it. And those armed

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forces that went into Iraq in two thousand and three

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a magnificent military performance getting to Baghdad. We knew those soldiers,

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many of them had worked for me. My former Aid

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de camp was a silver Star winner. He led the

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assault into Baghdad. He was a warrior. Many of these

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people have retired, but we never felt that we were

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a woke military. Didn't even know what it meant. We

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picked the best people for promotion, regardless of their race

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or gender. That was the standard. So I like what

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Heksas said about lethality, warrior winning, being decisive. General Milly

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I thought, as a fine general, he certainly qualifies as

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a war fighter. So there's some politics mixed into what

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Secretary said. But if he takes the armed forces forward,

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if he puts the emphasis on lethality, if he really

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does put the money out there to train and maintain,

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that's a great thing, and we need it because we're

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going into a very difficult period of time.

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Speaker 1: So I was pleasantly surprised. Wesley Clark pretty much liked

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the speech. She said it in a couple of different

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occasions where he liked that part of the speech. Little

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politics thrown in. But let's take a look at a

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couple of others here, because what actually go back to

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General Clark for a second. What he was talking about

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was that the political people were the ones who interfered

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with the war machine of the United States military during Vietnam.

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And anybody who served in Vietnam knows that. Anybody you

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have to if you're alive during this during the Vietnam War,

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you knew. Lyndon Johnson literally had maps out on his

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desk in the Oval office directing where the soldiers should be,

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and where the battalion should move to, and where the

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bombing raid should go. It was a disaster because of

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Lyndon Johnson. Just one of the many reasons I think

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he was one of the worst presidents we've ever had.

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William Cohen, former Defense Secretary, reacts to the fact that

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one of the things that hag Seth was talking about

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was he wants everybody to be fit everybody, whether you're

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a private or whether you're a general, everybody has to

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be fit, in shape, all that sort of stuff, and

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William Cohen jumped on that. Here's what he had to say.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure what he is suggesting there. Do I

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want to see to our troops be fit and conform

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to the best standards possible, both in grooming and also

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in physical capability. Absolutely, But the question is do you

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want your soldiers to operate under fear or through admiration.

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I'd like to think that leadership is a combination. Yes,

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you want to fear that you may be punished for

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something you don't measure up to, but you also want

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to admire the people who are leading you.

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Speaker 4: And if we're doing that, if that's what he's saying,

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I don't have a problem with it. But I think

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the notion you're going to start using physical punishment for individuals,

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I don't know that he's saying that, but the implication

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being if you've done something wrong, expect a very physical response.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's saying that. I hope not, But

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in any event, I agree with what he's saying in

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terms of greater physicality. I want to see that I

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wanted to see it when I was there, and I

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tried to emulate that by going to the gym every

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day to be with the officers who are over at

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the other Pentagon. So I think it's a good thing

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in terms of beyond what he's saying, I think it's

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open to cout.

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Speaker 1: So Colin was a Republican in I forget the House

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of the Senate. He was a politician Republican, and he

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was Bill Clinton's Secretary of Defense, so he was the

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only Republican environment remember, right on Bill Clinton's cabinet. But

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what he was referring to was HeiG Seth was basically

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saying he wants to make boot camp scary and strong

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and basically tear you down and build you back up

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as a soldier. And so it wasn't like harming people,

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but it was you know, do fifty push ups or

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run a couple of miles, or you got to do

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some physical thing. And I couldn't agree more. But at

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the same time, I think back to some of the

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people that I knew in the military. Hag Seth was

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talking about the fact that he sees fat generals walking

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around walking around the Pentagon and I'm thinking of the

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military is not on the front lines of battle. Most

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of them are behind the scenes, whether they're in taking

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care of ordinance or maintenance or whatever it might be.

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There's a lot of really you need smart, smart, smart

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planners that are technology experts. The military is becoming more

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and more technology oriented, So I get what hag Seth

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is talking about about. Everybody needs to be able to

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be fit. But if somebody's overweight, or some little person

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that's not very big and strong, I don't really care.

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If they're not on the front lines. You want to

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set an example, especially if you're in leadership. But if

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you're working on some radar facility one thousand miles from

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the front lines, yeah, whatever, Let's see who else we

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got one more? Senator Lieutenant General Mark Schwartz, former Army

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guys retired. This is his react.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think the commands across the globe that you know,

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all the combatant commands, regional combat commands, they're they're well manned,

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and certainly there's near real time, if not real time,

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communications with the commands that these flag officers and general

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officers came from to be in this venue. So in

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terms of risk, Wolf I don't see it as a

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as a real risk. I think this was an opportunity

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for the Secretary of War to speak largely to those

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that lead our military. I certainly participated in this at

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the army level when the Chief would call us back

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in from you know, around the globe absence of combat

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deployments or if you were leading combat formations to do this.

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So I don't see a great risk of this. Again,

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this is about unity of message and making sure that

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all the leadership within the military, within the War Department,

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and those that you know, lead our servicemen and women

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around the globe understand his intent and the presidents. Although

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some of the comments by the ponus, if you're a

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military person sitting in a room when the Secretary of

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the political rhetoric, you know, it makes you uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was asked about whether or not it was

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dangerous to have all these generals and flag officers in

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this meeting. What about what about being on site to

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command whatever you're commanding, and he said, Nah, everything's real

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time communications now anyway. So it was well received. What

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Haig Seth was talking about is that there has been

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decades of decay and that we've promoted leaders for the

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wrong reasons like gender and race, and he wanted to

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be on merit and merit and merit. And then again

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he really drove home the whole thing about being in

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physical combat shape, even though a lot of people in

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the military are never on the front lines of combat.

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But well received. President was there. He spoke for over

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an hour and you know, nobody, nobody clapped, nobody booed,

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nobody did anything. So the big meeting was said and done.

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He looked into leadership of the political parties. He specifically

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talked to Democrats about strong leadership. And this is what

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Harry found out.

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Speaker 6: Why is it that the Democrats, in my mind, are

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facing more pressure those Democratic leaders and that is because

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their base thinks that their party leaders are week week week.

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at this. Fifty four percent say neither party. Fifty four

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percent Democrats say neither party has strong leaders. Among Republicans,

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eighty percent of their base things Republicans have strong leaders,

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yet among Democrats. Just get this, just thirty five percent

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of Democrats say their party has strong leaders. When you

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add together this fifty four percent with this eleven percent,

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we're talking about two thirds of Democrats who say neither

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party or Republicans have stronger leaders, as compared to just

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thirty five percent who say their own parties have strong leaders.

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how Democrats view their leaders in Washington. And this is

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the other thing. It's not just that Democrats think that

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their party leaders are week week week. They also think

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they don't get anything done. I mean, take a look here, okay,

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Democrats and who get things done? Again, it's just fifty

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we get this, fifty percent of Democrats say neither party

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gets anything done. Just forty one percent of Democrats say

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their own party get stuff done. When you add in

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this nine percent of Democrats who say the Republican Party

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is more likely to get things done. With neither party,

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we're talking about three and five Democrats who say neither

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party or Republicans are more likely to get things done

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than the Democrat Party. And again, that is the complete

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inverse of how Republicans feel. Because seventy seven percent of

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Republicans think their own party leaders are likely to get

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things done, compared to just forty one percent of Democrats,

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about half that level who think their own leaders get

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things done. Again, Democrats just don't think very highly of

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their party at this point, and that is why there's

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so much pressure on those leaders, in my mind, in Washington,

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to actually do something that satisfies their base. If you

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think your party has weak leaders, if you think your

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party can't get anything done, well, this is I think

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the real pressure facing Democrats at this particular point. Democrats

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who think their parties need major changes are more. Look

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at this, fifty seven percent of Democrats say their party

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needs major changes are more compared to just forty three

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percent who say minor or no changes. Again, very different

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than the Republican Party, where twenty one percent of Republicans.

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are more. Again, a lot of pressure on Democratic leaders

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to actually do something their base likes.

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Speaker 7: For a change.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I get it.

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Speaker 1: The Democrats are looking for leadership and they're struggling right now.

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They don't have it, and the Republicans seem to be

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doing well, so they most Republicans like the Republican leadership.

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I don't like any of the politicians, but that's for

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another day. What else do we have here today? Oh? Yes,

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the big government shut down. I well, I mean, we'll

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see how what happens if there's an eleventh hour deal tonight.

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it doesn't look like there's actually going to be one.

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And if you're worried about it, you should not be. Yes,

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TSA will be. There'll be nice to them if you're

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going to the airport, because they're going to be on duty,

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but they're not going to be getting paid. They'll get

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their paycheck later, so I'm sure they might be a

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little drumpier today or tomorrow, I should say. But as

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far as all of this, Russell Bott, who's the the

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head of the Management and Budget for the government, the

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Officer Management and Budget, brought up a couple of salient

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points about the fact, and I have to correct myself.

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Yesterday I said, you know, so the Republicans want to

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just have a clean bill to just kick the can

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down the road until I think like the third week

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of November, and no additional spending, no cuts, no changes, nothing,

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just keep the government open while they negotiate seems reasonable,

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and I said, well, but the Democrats want to put

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some money up to help with Obamacare premiums. And this

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gets I said, it's got to be at least in

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the millions. No, I was way wrong. And Russell Vott

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talks about it. How it's one point five trillion dollars

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more the Democrats want to spend and they say it's

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for Obamacare premiums. Here's Russell bat.

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Speaker 5: We want to keep this government open.

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Speaker 8: It is not good for the American people to have

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the government shut down for any period of time. We

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will manage it appropriately, but it is something that can

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all be avoided. It can all be avoided by accepting

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a reasonable position, which is what the House has passed

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and what sits at the Senate desk, which is to

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continue to fund the government with a short term continuing resolution.

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It has never been a viewpoint that one and a

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half trillion dollars is a reasonable amount of spending to

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be included on a short term CR. This is hostage taking.

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It is not something that we are going to accept.

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And we hope that the Democrats come back for the

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brink fund this government and allow us to move forward.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you hear what he said. One and a half trillion.

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The Democrats want to shove in here one and a

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half trillion dollars more in spending then on top, and

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that's supposed to be for Obamacare premiums. What Obamacare did

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was they came out and they said that this is

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going to reduce the cost of healthcare. It did not.

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The premiums are still they're less than regular insurance. They

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don't cover as much as regular insurance when most doctors

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won't see them. But when they passed Obamacare, they said,

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all right, we understand these premiums. Obamacare is for people,

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lower income people, so we'll help you out with the

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premiums for ten years. Well, the ten years is up,

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and theoretically they should be cutting the premium support off completely,

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but what the Republicans are saying is, let's just leave

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it as it is and we'll negotiate it over the

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next six weeks or whatever they want to kick the

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can down the road for. In addition to that, they

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also want to put another five hundred billion I believe

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it is, maybe it's a million for PBS and NPR

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that was taken out of the budget. So these are

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the things that the Democrats are trying to do is

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cram in more spending. They just are incorrigible about their

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desire to just spend and spend not a little bit,

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but a lot of money. Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House,

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he had this to say.

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Speaker 9: The problem is that Chuck Schumer and Leader Jefferies refuse

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to acknowledge the simple facts. Let's review what the simple

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facts are. By way of review, the House is getting

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back to the way the regular appropriations process is supposed

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to work. Twelve separate appropriations bills passed through the House

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Appropriations Committee, three off the floor. The Senate doing their

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work as well. All this in bipartisan fashion. By the way,

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they passed three bills in the Senate. Those bills don't

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match up exactly. So for the first time in years,

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since twenty eight nineteen, you have a conference committee that

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is being constituted between the House and a Senate. This

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is the way Uphill becomes a law. They work out

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the differences. All this is happening in bipartisan fashion. The

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problem is we've run out of clock. September thirtieth is

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the end of the fiscal year, so we need a

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little more time. So what we did in the Republican

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majority is the right, responsible, simple thing, A clean continuing resolution,

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a short term, non partisan continuing resolution. It's only twenty

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four pages in linked. Leader Thune has a copy if

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you want to see the exhibit. There's nothing partisan in here,

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no policy writers, none of our big party preferences, because

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we want to do the right thing by the American

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people and allow more time for negotiation. Now there's a

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reason that Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries have come out

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here to stomp the feed saying that they can't go

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along with this. They're trying to bring in extraneous issues.

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They issued a counter proposal. You should go take a

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look at what they requested. One point five trillion dollars

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in new spending that is unrelated to the ongoing appropriations process.

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They wanted to, as you said, restore taxpayer funded benefits. Okay,

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hard working taxpayers in America. They want to take your

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fund and give that for benefits to illegal aliens. They

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want to restore that because we got rid of it.

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They want to prop up left leaning media outlets. Five

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hundred million they threw in on top of that one

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and a half trillion dollars on a seven week stop

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get funding measure. We're not going to do that. They

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know we can't do that, and we never happened to

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pass During the Biden administration, there were thirteen threatened shutdowns.

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The Republicans in the minority did the right thing. We

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kept the government open. We're simply asking for the Democrats

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do the same. If the Democrats make the decision to

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shut the government down, the consequences are on them. And

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I think it's absolutely tragic. We've never said that was

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a good idea. We never believed it is. And I

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want you to remember when we voted in the House,

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we passed it out of the House. The House has

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done its job. We did that almost two weeks ago.

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Every Democrat in the House except one voted to shut

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the government down. That is the record, and don't forget it.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, they're trying to point fingers at the Democrats,

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and Democrats trying to point fingers at the Republicans. But

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I mean, and I got plenty to gripe about their

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spending and the way they operate in Washington, But this

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is simple. The Republicans, they did not get it done.

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They're in charge. Shame on them, but they really just

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say we just want to kick the can down the road,

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not change anything. And the Democrats are trying to shove

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at least one and a half trillion dollars of more spending.

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I just I can't believe anybody Democrat or Republican would

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be rooting for that. So if you wake up tomorrow

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morning there's no government, I would not I would not worry.

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If it goes on for some time, they'll have some impacts,

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but I am fine. It just doesn't bother me. In

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the slightest tonight at a university in Utah, Yep, Charlie

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Kirk's group. They are going to let me see, I've

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got the Here starts tonight at the Utah State University

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that is in Logan, Utah. The panel will be there

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of Senator Mike Lee, Congressman Andy Biggs, former Congressman Jason Shavitz,

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and the Governor of Utah Spencer Cox, along with Alex Clark. Well,

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I know who all of those people are, except for

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Alex Clark. I had to look up Alex Clark. She's

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a young lady who is of course she has a podcast,

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has don't you have a podcast. Anyway, she grew up

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in Kentucky, I believe, I don't know. In any case, No,

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she grew up in Indiana, and she worked for a

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radio station in Kentucky, and she has now become a

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podcaster and has aligned herself with Turning Point USA. She's

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the host of Culture Apothecary, covers conservative commentary, pop culture,

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and wellness topics. So she's there. But the rest of

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them are a bunch of politicians. And I'm thinking, I

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keep hoping that Turning Point USA can keep Charlie Kirk's

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vision alive. But I'm looking at this and thinking, this

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is not going to do it. Folks not have a

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bunch of old fogy members of Congress and a governor.

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I mean, there are a bunch of old guys that

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are going to go out there and try and connect

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with these students at Utah State University. I don't know

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if this was originally on the schedule, because when Charlie

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Kirk laid out the schedule for his series of going

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around to various colleges starting with the through the fall

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and I guess into the winter, it started with the

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place in orm Utah where he was killed. That was

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stop number one on September tenth. Stop number two apparently

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is this Utah State University in Logan, Utah, starts tonight

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at six thirty mountain time. So the security issue around

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all of this obviously needs to be fixed. And Bobby

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chacone former FBI guy, kind of went over some of

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this hold on. I've got a list here of some

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of the failures that were made at at the rally

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in orm Utah. Number one, the courtyard was surrounded by buildings,

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which is a security no.

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Speaker 10: No.

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Speaker 1: There were no drones deployed, there were six officers security

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officers on site at that event. There were no bag checks,

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there were no metal detectors. Well, that's interesting that that's

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the list that they came up with. Is said that

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those were security failures, but I'm looking at that and

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going the only one that really made a different the

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guy was on a rooftop. So that's what they have.

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So they they are wanting to put for the new

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security measures. They want campus police working with local, state

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and federal partners. They want barricades erected, they want all

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attendees to pass through metal detectors. They want bag pack backpacks,

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and the larger bags, prohibited, security searches of all small purses,

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concealed carry permits for anyone with a firearm. Oh my gosh,

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no outside signs, and no re entry. That's what they're planning.

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That's the idea that they're coming up with. Here's Bobby

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Chacon's reaction to all of this event that's going to

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be taking place tonight.

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Speaker 5: It's unusual.

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00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,559
Speaker 11: It's almost echoes of Butler, Pennsylvania, right. I mean, you know,

478
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,119
how do you have such a high profile person who

479
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,599
has outstanding death threats against him in that kind of

480
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environment where the threats can come from so many different places,

481
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and yet you don't have a larger security apparatus in place.

482
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Speaker 3: It really, you know, there's room for questions here.

483
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Speaker 11: One of the things is that the way Charlie liked

484
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,559
to conduct these things is very very you know, face

485
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to face, really in person contact that the people are

486
00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:35,599
right up close to him, and so you know, he

487
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,839
did like to get out among the people, and that

488
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,640
always presents that kind of additional danger. But at the

489
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,640
same time, there are not you know, you don't have

490
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to have the level of a presidential security, but there

491
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,440
could be somewhere in between. You could you know, put

492
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,119
people on rooftops. I mean, rooftops are now what we're

493
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,160
seeing more and more used for these type of situations.

494
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,759
So maybe, you know, just a few officers on rooftops

495
00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:02,079
nearby is enough to kind of stave off, you know,

496
00:31:02,119 --> 00:31:05,119
an attempt like that. Well, I mean it tells me

497
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,519
that they realize that there's still an outstanding threat out

498
00:31:08,519 --> 00:31:12,440
there to people in Charlie's movement. They wouldn't be doing

499
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,279
this if there wasn't, you know, outstanding threats against Charlie's legacy,

500
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,400
and so I think now they're thinking, you know, you know, unfortunately,

501
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,200
after the fact, they're thinking we need better protection because

502
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,480
there's a lot of pushback, violent pushback on people that

503
00:31:26,519 --> 00:31:30,039
are speaking up their minds like Charlie was. Yeah, that's

504
00:31:30,079 --> 00:31:33,359
the unfortunate part. Charlie himself might have not wanted all

505
00:31:33,359 --> 00:31:36,599
of this. He wanted that personal interaction. He wanted people

506
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,799
to feel like they could come and show up and

507
00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:43,599
have these conversations without it being an armed camp. But unfortunately,

508
00:31:44,039 --> 00:31:47,880
the way Charlie was murdered kind of dictates how we

509
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,119
have to operate going forward.

510
00:31:49,599 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: So the event is tonight, and again I do wish

511
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,000
them well I just look at the at the list

512
00:31:56,039 --> 00:32:01,240
of speakers and I'm thinking, Mike Lee, he's nice. It

513
00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:03,160
seems like an I met him once. He's a nice

514
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:11,279
enough guy. Andy Biggs, boring, Jason Shavitz, boring, Spencer Cox,

515
00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:17,640
he's just media hound looking for his fifteen minutes of fame.

516
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,240
And then they got this young lady, Alex Clark, who

517
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,079
will be there. So I wished him well. And I

518
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:31,440
don't know about with the combination of old people speaking

519
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,119
and then a whole bunch of heavy security, whether this

520
00:32:35,319 --> 00:32:39,160
is going to really help or hurt the future of

521
00:32:39,759 --> 00:32:43,480
these campus visits by a turning point USA. So let's

522
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,039
get some phone calls in. I haven't done this for

523
00:32:46,079 --> 00:32:49,680
a while, So let me go to the phones and

524
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,440
let's see what you in the audience have to say.

525
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:59,640
Let's start with Eric, who is very concerned about all

526
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,519
of the violence that we have seen and he's having

527
00:33:02,519 --> 00:33:03,160
trouble with it.

528
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,359
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm just listening. You're a great dig podcast for

529
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:13,000
today about the violence. I'm just listening. And the first

530
00:33:13,039 --> 00:33:15,359
thought was, like, you know, to say, hey, you know,

531
00:33:15,599 --> 00:33:21,119
stay away from veterans and transgender and people who has

532
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:26,799
associated these transgender people this is twenty twenty five warning

533
00:33:27,559 --> 00:33:30,440
I kind of had in my mind, but then I thought,

534
00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:33,359
you know, when you told about this, you know there's

535
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,640
drunk drivers hitting the crops and the board and all

536
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:43,839
this stuff. I mean, I just can't think about those violence,

537
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:48,000
you know. I mean, it's just too graphic. I mean,

538
00:33:48,079 --> 00:33:51,119
my mind is just not able to handle all this.

539
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,559
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's not alone. There's a lot of people

540
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,960
having a hard time with handling all the violence that

541
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,359
we've seen, and boy, we have had a rash of it,

542
00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:05,240
no question about it. Ricochet also called in wanted to

543
00:34:05,319 --> 00:34:09,559
know about the dollar versus gold.

544
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 12: Hey, tom Rick Ochet, I ran across a very interesting

545
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,719
post on Reddit the other day. I bought a bunch

546
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,159
of gold in my Ira back in March, and it's

547
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,280
up twenty three percent since then. So this post on

548
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,440
Reddit said you got to check what it's up in euros.

549
00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:34,239
So I did. My gold in dollars is up twenty

550
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:39,280
three percent. In Europe, it's only up thirteen percent. Is

551
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,280
that a good thing for me, right you? Or does

552
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:48,039
that mean everybody who's up ten percent in their stockholdings

553
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,440
is staying level because the dollar has dropped ten percent?

554
00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 13: Let me know see ye.

555
00:34:54,079 --> 00:34:58,519
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, congratulations got gold less. What'd you say,

556
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,639
may March something like that of twenty three percent if

557
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,760
the dollar is down, But if it's not going to

558
00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:11,719
hurt you, you'll get your increase in gold that you

559
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,840
can translate that into real money. Twenty three percent more

560
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,400
real money in your pocket. But if the dollar drops

561
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:25,599
ten percent, what it means is that imports are more expensive.

562
00:35:26,639 --> 00:35:30,920
So if you buy something from overseas, forget the tariffs,

563
00:35:31,039 --> 00:35:35,000
just the exchange and value of currency. It means that

564
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:40,239
if the dollar goes down, foreign prices, foreign products, their

565
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,920
prices go up. And also foreign travel. You want to

566
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:50,000
go on European vacation or go to Asia or Latin America.

567
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,880
If you travel, your dollar won't go as far. So

568
00:35:54,559 --> 00:35:56,840
that's two of the things. So if you're not buying

569
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,519
things from overseas and you aren't planning on traveling receives,

570
00:36:01,079 --> 00:36:05,000
then you're good. But as the dollar goes down, it

571
00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:09,280
can lead to higher inflation, which could mean the FED

572
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,920
is fussing about everything and they may not continue to

573
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,880
lower interest rates if they see the dollar continuing to

574
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,199
go lower. And if you're a company in the US

575
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:25,159
that does business overseas. Congratulations, because people will be buying

576
00:36:25,159 --> 00:36:29,360
more of your product because your products are cheaper for foreigners,

577
00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:33,840
and foreign products are more expensive for us when the

578
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:39,719
dollar goes down. So congratulations Ricochet. And here's a caller

579
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:44,559
who disagrees with me and with Kevin O'Leary. We were

580
00:36:44,599 --> 00:36:48,199
talking about the H one B visas the other day,

581
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,480
and this guy is not happy with my view of it,

582
00:36:52,599 --> 00:36:55,599
nor mister Wonderfuls. Here's the caller.

583
00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:00,599
Speaker 14: Could not disagree with you or Kevin O'Leary more. Bringing

584
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:06,159
people from outside countries to rob our people from jobs.

585
00:37:06,559 --> 00:37:10,920
That's what America's been doing now for forty years. Why

586
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,199
would you do that? Why don't just educate our own

587
00:37:14,199 --> 00:37:18,119
people very able to do the job just as good.

588
00:37:18,159 --> 00:37:18,840
It's not better?

589
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 3: Why Tom?

590
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:20,639
Speaker 14: Why?

591
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,079
Speaker 1: Well, I thought, I explained the other day. Yes, there were.

592
00:37:24,199 --> 00:37:26,800
I've had calls that goes back quite a few years.

593
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,480
I'm talking maybe twenty years ago. I had calls from

594
00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:33,840
people that were in the tech sector and were upset

595
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,039
because they were being laid off because the company was

596
00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:41,559
hiring foreign workers on H one B visas they could

597
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,320
and they would pay them less, and so they were

598
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,880
getting basically shoved out the door. But the caller says, well,

599
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,440
why don't we just educate more of our people here.

600
00:37:53,079 --> 00:37:56,360
The problem is you've got to get people that will

601
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:02,320
sign up for degrees in science and technology and engineering

602
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,559
and math, and that is what we need. And that

603
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:13,400
is why China is graduating ten engineers to AR one.

604
00:38:14,199 --> 00:38:18,880
So we are educating as many as we can handle,

605
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,280
but we're not educating enough of them. So if we

606
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,000
don't have If you're a company and you need ten

607
00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:31,920
engineers and you say, I'm American, top of the line,

608
00:38:32,039 --> 00:38:34,800
first of the first in line, come on in Americans,

609
00:38:35,159 --> 00:38:38,159
and you get one engineer and you got nine guys

610
00:38:38,159 --> 00:38:42,639
from China or nine women from China, you need ten.

611
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,079
So you're going to hire the people from overseas. And

612
00:38:46,119 --> 00:38:48,599
that's where the H one B visa comes in. We

613
00:38:48,639 --> 00:38:52,239
are not doing the hiring. We are not doing the

614
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,360
education to get enough people for our companies to hire.

615
00:38:55,639 --> 00:38:59,880
Our companies have hired everyone who's available in a lot

616
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:04,679
of the science, technology, and engineering and math. We don't

617
00:39:04,679 --> 00:39:08,880
have enough people. It's a it's a it's a shame

618
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,639
on our education system that we don't. But we don't.

619
00:39:12,519 --> 00:39:16,880
And here's the grumpy guy from Reno. See what he

620
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,920
has to ripe about today.

621
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,679
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a grumpy old man again. I just got

622
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,000
just it hit me. You know, I always think of it,

623
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,320
but I know you I'm taking up a lot of

624
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,519
your time. But I'm just a regular guy. I'm going

625
00:39:32,559 --> 00:39:37,519
to sabor all my life and I don't know. I

626
00:39:37,519 --> 00:39:42,280
think with everybody's retirement plans in a shock market just

627
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,800
is just not a good idea. It kind of goes

628
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:51,440
along with four hundred and fifty million guns in the country.

629
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,559
At least those things just thrown add up to a

630
00:39:54,599 --> 00:39:58,360
good to a good future. I'm gone take care of body.

631
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,599
Speaker 1: Well, thanks a grumpy guy. I don't see anything grumpy

632
00:40:02,599 --> 00:40:06,519
about that. Yeah, there's there's a four hundred and fifty

633
00:40:06,679 --> 00:40:09,639
million guns. You're never going to get rid of all

634
00:40:09,679 --> 00:40:11,920
of them. We'll still have some gun violence from time

635
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,559
to time, and nobody's for that. But uh, and putting

636
00:40:15,639 --> 00:40:18,159
all your money in the stock market, I hope you're not.

637
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,840
A stock market is for some of your money, but

638
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,280
not one hundred percent for most people. Some people are,

639
00:40:25,679 --> 00:40:30,239
especially young people. I'm all for that. But grumpy makes

640
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,000
a couple of good points. Here's another one. From grumpy.

641
00:40:34,199 --> 00:40:37,599
Speaker 7: Reno holmost gay. I think we're up for a big showdown.

642
00:40:38,039 --> 00:40:44,679
Sooner're in the healthcare division. We'll see what the Democrats

643
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,280
do and the Republicans there they might have a deal

644
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,639
already made, but this one's I think Democrats might full

645
00:40:51,639 --> 00:40:53,119
of sneak attack on them.

646
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 14: They should, They've.

647
00:40:55,119 --> 00:40:58,159
Speaker 7: They've tackled, They've done a lot of tough issues over

648
00:40:58,199 --> 00:41:03,480
the year. Over the years, we'll see that nobody's talking

649
00:41:03,519 --> 00:41:06,960
about this one. There's so much else going on, and

650
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,639
this is I think healthcare is gonna be a big,

651
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,760
a big issue in the next couple of weeks. Here

652
00:41:14,199 --> 00:41:18,239
we'll see which way missus Kirk takes his foundation. That

653
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:23,800
was one crazy, bad deal. You know, can't be violent

654
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,480
anything to answer, period, But we'll see. You know, I

655
00:41:27,519 --> 00:41:32,519
think I don't know. That was sad, sad stuff. She

656
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,360
might be the United I have all go on.

657
00:41:36,599 --> 00:41:40,079
Speaker 1: Well, like you said earlier, Rob, I have nothing but

658
00:41:40,159 --> 00:41:45,320
good wishes for Erica Kirk and turning Point USA. But

659
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,360
I'm with I'm with Well, he says he's homeless, and

660
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:54,119
he brought up healthcare, and cuts in healthcare are going

661
00:41:54,159 --> 00:41:58,159
to effect probably the homeless in the poorest of those

662
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:02,239
among us, no question about it. So we'll see what

663
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,159
the reverberation is when we get done with all the

664
00:42:05,199 --> 00:42:09,400
negotiations back in DC. And to finish off the phone calls,

665
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,239
we got two of them from Lorie the comment line, Lady,

666
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,360
there's one talking about the potential of a government shutdown.

667
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:17,199
Maybe a good thing.

668
00:42:17,519 --> 00:42:21,159
Speaker 13: If the federal government shuts down, does that mean the

669
00:42:21,199 --> 00:42:26,199
IRS will no longer do audits or accept payments? Now,

670
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,159
that would be a true tragedy.

671
00:42:29,079 --> 00:42:34,039
Speaker 1: Actually, well they won't. They won't be closed permanently. But yeah,

672
00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:38,000
the IRS, well the staff will have to go home,

673
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,880
so yeah, they will stop doing audits. No, they'll accept

674
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,159
your payment. You still got to pay on time, because

675
00:42:46,039 --> 00:42:48,360
I don't know how that works, but you don't want

676
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,679
to be late. And then she also brings up the

677
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,119
mayor race here in New York City.

678
00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 13: Mom Donnie says he's going to build beautiful government built

679
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,840
housing in New York. Doesn't he know that government built

680
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:09,599
housing makes the migrant hotels look like Buckingham Palace.

681
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: I don't think he does. I don't know how his

682
00:43:13,039 --> 00:43:17,039
mind works. He's kind of in a fantasy land of

683
00:43:17,119 --> 00:43:19,000
some kind where he thinks he's going to be able

684
00:43:19,039 --> 00:43:23,239
to make everything just lovely. So we'll wait and see

685
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:27,079
how that works out as well. Meantime, as we wrap

686
00:43:27,159 --> 00:43:29,519
up the first quarter of the year, Like I said,

687
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,320
I wouldn't put a lot of weight in Wall Street's

688
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,519
numbers because they're doing all the pretty things for their portfolios,

689
00:43:36,559 --> 00:43:39,079
the big money managers. But it did turn out to

690
00:43:39,119 --> 00:43:43,320
be a positive day today. The now up eighty one

691
00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:47,760
points to forty six thousand, three ninety seven s and

692
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:52,519
P up twenty seven, NAZDAC up sixty eight. Price of

693
00:43:52,639 --> 00:43:57,039
gold up twenty seven dollars to thirty eight eighty two.

694
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,119
Boil down a buck sixty two dollars now for one

695
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:05,119
barrel of oil. Thank you for coming by today. We're

696
00:44:05,159 --> 00:44:07,679
going to be back here again tomorrow. Hope to see

697
00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:07,880
you that