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I thought 23 00:01:34.480 --> 00:01:37.799 it'd be fun. And two, Uh, let's be honest. The 24 00:01:37.799 --> 00:01:40.280 more important one is that, Uh, I'm in kind of 25 00:01:40.280 --> 00:01:42.159 a content behind all right. I have a whole bunch 26 00:01:42.200 --> 00:01:46.480 of things scheduled, but nothing that meets this deadline. And 27 00:01:46.640 --> 00:01:49.599 the interview was supposed to come out today Thomas and 28 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:53.359 I talking about the West Memphis three with a first 29 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:57.079 hand source. Uh didn't work out. The guy, as the 30 00:01:57.159 --> 00:02:02.480 kids say, crashed out, quit kind of lost. It won't 31 00:02:02.519 --> 00:02:07.719 get into that perhaps best left unsaid. So I needed 32 00:02:07.719 --> 00:02:10.319 something to do, and I figured we'd bring back an 33 00:02:10.319 --> 00:02:15.840 old staple, the Jay Burtons Show article reading streams or podcasts. 34 00:02:15.879 --> 00:02:19.560 I guess because this isn't going out live. This article 35 00:02:19.800 --> 00:02:22.759 and I'm going to read for you is actually cited 36 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:26.560 in a piece that I have written coming out tomorrow 37 00:02:27.400 --> 00:02:31.520 with my friends at Juneto or huntil I'm not entirely sure. 38 00:02:32.280 --> 00:02:35.280 An outlet on substack started by some friends with mine, 39 00:02:35.960 --> 00:02:38.879 and I might add, actually, by the way, in addition 40 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:41.240 to their substack, which is quite good, they also have 41 00:02:41.280 --> 00:02:44.639 a really fascinating intel tab. This is not the point 42 00:02:44.680 --> 00:02:47.479 of the stream It's just something that I was showing 43 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:50.960 me where effectively you can find all sorts of interesting 44 00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:56.439 things like a campaign finance tracker, networking map, can wright 45 00:02:56.520 --> 00:02:59.719 wing talent network. Not for jobs, of course, but just 46 00:02:59.719 --> 00:03:05.840 track different people and their institutional affiliations. Even if you're 47 00:03:05.879 --> 00:03:08.599 not a conservative per se, there's a lot you can 48 00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:12.439 glean from there. Right, It's fascinating information, and the network's 49 00:03:12.479 --> 00:03:15.159 growing rapidly. They didn't pay me to say that. I 50 00:03:15.319 --> 00:03:18.039 just think it's kind of neat. So if you're interested, 51 00:03:18.159 --> 00:03:22.639 check that out. In addition to my article which cites 52 00:03:22.680 --> 00:03:24.439 this piece, the one that we're going to be going over, 53 00:03:24.599 --> 00:03:26.759 it's a part of that argument, not the whole thing, 54 00:03:27.439 --> 00:03:32.439 but this article written in New York Magazine by Brooks 55 00:03:32.479 --> 00:03:36.240 what's his last name or first name rather, by Dan Brooks, 56 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:42.800 going over the recent DJ release of the Epstein files. Right. 57 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:46.919 And the reason I'm reading this is partially because, look, 58 00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:49.039 I got a slot I need to fill, but also 59 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:53.319 because it's a really interesting argument. You see it come 60 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:59.120 up again and again from these sort of professional managerial types. Right. 61 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:03.520 Brooks may not be smart enough to express it well, 62 00:04:03.879 --> 00:04:07.319 but he is smart enough to pick up on a 63 00:04:07.360 --> 00:04:12.120 trend to pick up on the direction the winds are blowing, 64 00:04:13.159 --> 00:04:17.879 so also somewhat interestingly, initially this article was titled Pizzagate 65 00:04:18.040 --> 00:04:21.600 Wasn't real right? They changed it. I thought that name 66 00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:25.319 was a lot better the new one. Jeffrey Epstein loved 67 00:04:25.319 --> 00:04:30.160 sex trafficking pizza did. The newly released documents lend support 68 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:33.720 to the old Pizzagate conspiracy way worse title. The first 69 00:04:33.759 --> 00:04:39.079 one was great. The latest tranch of documents released by 70 00:04:39.120 --> 00:04:42.480 the Department of Justice related to its investigation of Jeffrey 71 00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:45.800 Epstein contains four hundred and eighty two occurrences of the 72 00:04:45.800 --> 00:04:49.240 word pizza, which seems like a lot. By comparison, the 73 00:04:49.240 --> 00:04:52.439 word Hamburger appears only one hundred and ninety tens, while 74 00:04:52.439 --> 00:04:56.519 the phrase sex with children appears twenty times, including in 75 00:04:56.600 --> 00:04:59.079 some kind of tract sent to the FBI with the 76 00:04:59.120 --> 00:05:04.680 impenetrable title sex Collectors, Halet, Tony Blair, Cullen, Gordon Brown, 77 00:05:04.800 --> 00:05:10.680 British Intelligence I six MI five Dunblane Pedophiles, nWo Illuminati Freemasons, 78 00:05:11.040 --> 00:05:14.480 as well as in this photograph Epstein's brother Mark provided 79 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:18.160 the Agency in twenty twenty. For those this is a 80 00:05:18.199 --> 00:05:22.439 photo of a flip phone from Mark Epstein, which says 81 00:05:22.759 --> 00:05:26.639 five twenty nine are five twenty four excuse me, you 82 00:05:26.680 --> 00:05:28.959 have a good family. Do they know if you had 83 00:05:29.000 --> 00:05:32.800 sex with children you will die? And then a link. 84 00:05:33.879 --> 00:05:37.879 These two artifacts represent two ends of the evidentiary spectrum. 85 00:05:37.959 --> 00:05:41.120 A seemingly explicit indication that somebody was abusing kids and 86 00:05:41.160 --> 00:05:44.319 getting blackmailed and threatened for it, and a dispatch from 87 00:05:44.319 --> 00:05:47.399 the most fevered corner of the conspiracy minded Internet. You 88 00:05:47.399 --> 00:05:50.319 would think the conspiracists would be thrilled by the blackmail stuff, 89 00:05:50.360 --> 00:05:52.480 but for the time being, they have focused their attention 90 00:05:53.000 --> 00:05:57.199 on the pizza. I'm just going to go through this 91 00:05:57.279 --> 00:05:59.800 intro and then once we get into actual meat of it, 92 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:03.879 get my analysis. Admittedly, some of the pizza related material 93 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:07.160 seems pretty weird. An April twenty eighteen message from a 94 00:06:07.279 --> 00:06:11.720 redacted sender says, let's go for pizza and grape soda again. 95 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:17.720 No one can understand go kN oh cryptic. Some of 96 00:06:17.759 --> 00:06:21.560 it is scrutable. Go no k and o appears to 97 00:06:21.560 --> 00:06:24.160 be a rendering of go no, an English derivative of 98 00:06:24.160 --> 00:06:31.480 the Yiddish express gay vase ge. I'm sorry, I don't 99 00:06:31.519 --> 00:06:34.519 understand the Star Wars language, which is roughly equivalent to 100 00:06:34.720 --> 00:06:37.319 go figure. The claim that no one else can understand, 101 00:06:37.360 --> 00:06:39.560 on the other hand, is a creepy element that echoes 102 00:06:39.639 --> 00:06:42.920 Donald Trump's allusion to the Wonderful Secrets and his infamous 103 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:46.639 letter on the occasion of Epstein's fiftieth birthday. This combination 104 00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:50.160 is the essence of the latest cash some question. Some 105 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:54.240 questions yield to research. Others are stubborn but tantalize, inviting 106 00:06:54.240 --> 00:06:56.439 readers to fill in the blanks with what they could 107 00:06:56.439 --> 00:07:00.439 not possibly know. Pizza and grape soda blombe to the 108 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:04.360 latter category and appears frequently in Epstein's emails and texts. 109 00:07:04.759 --> 00:07:07.759 In a twenty eighteen exchange with his zerologist Harry Fish, 110 00:07:07.879 --> 00:07:13.519 who erroneously appears in Epstein's context as Harry phish Fish, 111 00:07:13.639 --> 00:07:17.040 the two seem to discuss refilling Epstein's prescription for a 112 00:07:17.120 --> 00:07:21.360 rectile dysfunction medication. Phish later texts, after you use them, 113 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:24.879 wash your hands, and lets go get pizza and grape soda. 114 00:07:25.399 --> 00:07:27.800 This proposal seems odd. There are many things you can 115 00:07:27.839 --> 00:07:30.399 do after your viagra kicks in, and getting a slice 116 00:07:30.439 --> 00:07:32.519 with your doctor is not near the top of the list. 117 00:07:32.959 --> 00:07:35.079 In another context, it might just be funny. But the 118 00:07:35.079 --> 00:07:38.360 confluence of pizza and grape soda with Epstein, a man 119 00:07:38.399 --> 00:07:41.600 increasingly known for exactly one thing, and boner pills is 120 00:07:41.720 --> 00:07:46.120 enough to drive a reasonable person to conjecture. Remember when 121 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:49.199 only unreasonable people thought like this? The idea that pizza 122 00:07:49.199 --> 00:07:51.600 could be a code word for illicit sexual activities was 123 00:07:51.639 --> 00:07:54.519 laughable in twenty sixteen, when the so called pizza Gate 124 00:07:54.600 --> 00:07:58.160 conspiracy captured the imagination of what charitably might be called 125 00:07:58.279 --> 00:08:02.240 the internet's most enthusiastic use users. The theory, which emerged 126 00:08:02.279 --> 00:08:05.360 after wiki Leak's publicly released the personal emails of Hillary 127 00:08:05.360 --> 00:08:09.079 for America campaign chair John Podesta, hinged on the belief 128 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:12.040 that references to pizza were code for children used for sex. 129 00:08:12.480 --> 00:08:15.959 From that bedrock assumption, Pizzagate theorist concluded that the Clintons 130 00:08:15.959 --> 00:08:20.040 and other powerful Democrats were satanic pedophiles operating an abuse 131 00:08:20.079 --> 00:08:23.480 in cannibalism, ring from various restaurants in the Washington, DC area. 132 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:26.720 Why else with the staff of presidential campaign talk about 133 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:31.120 ordering a pizza. Even the theory's most ardent believers lost confidence. However, 134 00:08:31.319 --> 00:08:34.600 after a man named Edgar Madison Welch brought a rifle 135 00:08:34.639 --> 00:08:37.159 to one of the restaurants, Comet Pizza, and demanded to 136 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:40.039 see the children being held in its basement. Comet Pizza 137 00:08:40.080 --> 00:08:44.360 had no basement, and Welsh eventually surrendered to police. In 138 00:08:44.759 --> 00:08:46.919 January twenty twenty five, he was shot and killed during 139 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:49.840 an unrelated traffic stop in North Carolina. I prefer not 140 00:08:49.919 --> 00:08:53.440 to comment on this turn of events. Okay, so several 141 00:08:53.440 --> 00:08:56.840 things here. One, I'm not like Pizzagate guy, but this 142 00:08:56.879 --> 00:09:01.159 is a really interesting timeline because he's partially and he 143 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:05.240 also does some false equivalency here, so he is correct. 144 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:10.200 Pizza Gate happened months like roughly three or four months 145 00:09:10.399 --> 00:09:14.519 before QAnon, which is probably what you're thinking of when 146 00:09:14.639 --> 00:09:18.399 you hear the term pizzagate, and it came from, as 147 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:25.440 he said, the John Podesta emails. Now, the first part, 148 00:09:25.759 --> 00:09:28.799 you know, the idea that this restaurant and others were 149 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:32.440 being used for child sex trafficking, is part of kind 150 00:09:32.440 --> 00:09:35.960 of the og, the first strain of pizza Gate. But 151 00:09:36.039 --> 00:09:40.960 all the other stuff, the Democrats, the the crazy stuff 152 00:09:40.960 --> 00:09:46.799 about Hillary Clinton, that's QAnon. And I have long contended 153 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:52.159 that QAnon is a massive op. Right, just look at 154 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:57.080 the kind of similarities to what the the Communists were 155 00:09:57.080 --> 00:09:59.519 doing to the white Russians, right, the propaganda they were 156 00:09:59.559 --> 00:10:03.080 doing during Russian Civil War. Well, sure, some of it 157 00:10:03.240 --> 00:10:06.279 was throw down your arms and surrender, but a large 158 00:10:06.440 --> 00:10:10.879 portion of it was effectively, everything is fine, the Communists 159 00:10:10.919 --> 00:10:15.240 are being destroyed. You don't have to do anything. QAnon 160 00:10:15.639 --> 00:10:18.919 obviously has a very similar character to it, right, the 161 00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:21.960 idea that there is the shadowy force in the US government, 162 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:25.720 that patriots are in control, that so many of these 163 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:32.240 hated figures for the followers of q have been arrested, tried, 164 00:10:32.279 --> 00:10:36.320 and executed in Guantanamo Bank, This is a really interesting 165 00:10:36.639 --> 00:10:40.840 equivalence one you see often. Now he mentions it. The 166 00:10:40.879 --> 00:10:44.519 framing on this is slightly changed because for a long time, 167 00:10:44.679 --> 00:10:51.759 almost a decade, Pizzagate, the widely debunked conspiracy theory, was 168 00:10:51.799 --> 00:10:56.919 sort of the the the prime example for the regime 169 00:10:57.039 --> 00:11:01.559 of why conspiracy theories are dangerous, because it resulted in 170 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:06.360 this mass shooting. Now he mentions it, of course that welch, 171 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:11.759 this guy brought a rifle into comment pizza. So I'm 172 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:13.240 not going to get into this. Like I said, the 173 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:16.320 point of this is not to be a pizza Gate video. 174 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:19.879 What it is to go over the reaction to it. Right, 175 00:11:19.879 --> 00:11:22.080 this is sort of an inciting incident, but it's worth 176 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:25.720 saying nonetheless, So a couple things. One, it's not a 177 00:11:25.720 --> 00:11:30.279 mass shooting. He didn't shoot anyone. He fired one bullet 178 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:35.679 and that bullet went through the door of the maintenance closet. 179 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:39.279 He was attempting to rescue children from into the four 180 00:11:39.399 --> 00:11:42.480 hundred thousand dollars server rack in a pizza place, destroying 181 00:11:42.480 --> 00:11:47.480 the hard drive. Just things that normal pizza places have. 182 00:11:48.879 --> 00:11:51.879 If you're curious, if you want to watch security cam 183 00:11:51.919 --> 00:11:55.960 footage of the attack, you can't because every single one 184 00:11:56.000 --> 00:12:00.000 of them was turned around on that day, which is weird. 185 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:04.679 Now Brooks is actually correct, I don't have a smoking gun. 186 00:12:05.080 --> 00:12:07.960 You know, this is the sort of question that defies researchers. 187 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:15.559 But it's interesting certainly. Obviously the fact that he was 188 00:12:15.559 --> 00:12:18.200 shot and killed. You know, he seemed to be sort 189 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:20.720 of an unstable individual. I don't necessarily want to comment 190 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:24.039 on that, but it's a weird thing to have happened. 191 00:12:24.679 --> 00:12:28.080 And also, of course, the Podesta emails are just as 192 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:32.240 if not more incriminating. My friend Daryl Cooper Martyer made 193 00:12:32.600 --> 00:12:36.320 did an excellent series digging into the Podesta emails highly 194 00:12:36.360 --> 00:12:40.759 recommend checking that out. There's a lot there, I'll put it. 195 00:12:40.840 --> 00:12:43.679 I'll put it that way, go into his art collection 196 00:12:43.799 --> 00:12:47.600 his associations. Point is the idea that this is simply 197 00:12:47.639 --> 00:12:53.320 some sort of conflagration of like QAnon and like Retardo 198 00:12:53.720 --> 00:12:56.519 conspiracy theory is it's like, well, sure that exists, but 199 00:12:57.000 --> 00:12:59.480 that's not all of it. And it is very convenient 200 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:04.559 QAnon exists because it forms a great straw man. You 201 00:13:04.600 --> 00:13:09.919 don't actually have to address real meaningful criticism inconsistencies. You 202 00:13:09.960 --> 00:13:12.759 can just say, well, those people believe JFK is going 203 00:13:12.840 --> 00:13:16.720 to resurrect from the grave and appear it in Rockefeller Plaza, 204 00:13:16.960 --> 00:13:22.320 they're transparently stupid. Anyway, back to the article, because we 205 00:13:22.399 --> 00:13:25.840 have we have a lot to go. At the time, 206 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:28.279 the assumption that pizza was code for sex with children 207 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:31.919 seemed obviously arbitrary and extravagant, a violation of the principle 208 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:34.399 that the simplest explanation is usually the right one. This 209 00:13:34.480 --> 00:13:38.519 heuristic octims razor, which, by the way, progressives are very 210 00:13:38.559 --> 00:13:45.120 tactical in their invocation of Oham's razor. One may may 211 00:13:45.159 --> 00:13:49.120 think of systematic racism or either glass ceiling or the 212 00:13:49.120 --> 00:13:52.480 patriarchy as sort of wonderful examples of this where the 213 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:57.039 most simple explanation is completely and totally inappropriate. Back to 214 00:13:57.080 --> 00:14:01.159 the narrative, This heuristic Ocome's is often a handy way 215 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:04.039 to differentiate ideas and people we should take seriously from 216 00:14:04.080 --> 00:14:06.879 ones we can safely dismiss. People who are frustrated that 217 00:14:06.879 --> 00:14:09.399 they've misplaced the keys tend to be more credible than 218 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:12.600 those who think their keys have been stolen. Except with 219 00:14:12.600 --> 00:14:15.960 the Epstein pizza thing that somebody stole my keys contingent 220 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:20.919 seems to have been suddenly and disastrously vindicated. As of 221 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:24.720 February twelfth, a Reddit post titled pizza code words littered 222 00:14:24.759 --> 00:14:28.919 in Epstein files has gotten twelve thousand upduts and eighteen 223 00:14:29.000 --> 00:14:31.519 thousand comments, many of which center on the idea that 224 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:35.200 the Pizzagate conspiracy has been proved basically correct, even if 225 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:37.799 it got some of the specific th wrong. One commenter wrote, 226 00:14:37.840 --> 00:14:39.559 I wouldn't be surprised if they came up with the 227 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:42.279 original conspiracy to take attention away from the places where 228 00:14:42.279 --> 00:14:45.480 it was actually happening. And William of Oakham rotates in 229 00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:51.879 his grave like rotisserie chicken, so several things there, right, Look, 230 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:55.360 I have no great lover of Reddit for any number 231 00:14:55.399 --> 00:15:02.039 of reasons. But okay, surely you know, as open minded 232 00:15:02.080 --> 00:15:06.240 progressives as liberal defenders. Fourth Doxy, we should at least 233 00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:10.559 hear this out. Are we going to hear this argument out? 234 00:15:10.759 --> 00:15:14.399 Dear listener, I think you know the answer. One must 235 00:15:14.480 --> 00:15:18.440 keep a level head. Even though these recent Epstein materials 236 00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:21.519 do make the financi here seem strangely interested in pizza 237 00:15:21.600 --> 00:15:24.320 and unusually committed to having it delivered to other people. 238 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:29.039 Several emails, such as May twenty fourth, twenty seventeen, send 239 00:15:29.039 --> 00:15:32.279 Pizza to Bobby, appear to be an automated calendar reminder. 240 00:15:32.519 --> 00:15:35.639 The Bobby in question here is comedian Bobby Slayton, the 241 00:15:35.679 --> 00:15:40.320 subject of pizza reminders on consecutive days in twenty seventeen. 242 00:15:40.919 --> 00:15:44.039 Another message to an unnamed recipient goes into detail about 243 00:15:44.039 --> 00:15:47.720 how this pizza should be procured. Artures opens at four pm. 244 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:50.200 Be there when they open and order the pizza then 245 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:53.360 delivered to three oh one. The message reads. The numeral 246 00:15:53.399 --> 00:15:55.679 three oh one refers to Epstein's townhouse at three oh 247 00:15:55.759 --> 00:15:58.600 one sixty six Street, where Slayton appears to have been 248 00:15:58.600 --> 00:16:02.360 staying at the time, These instructions seem too specific and 249 00:16:02.440 --> 00:16:06.320 mundane to be about anything but the actual pizza. Similarly, 250 00:16:06.440 --> 00:16:09.039 this message, which acts a redacted recipient to pick up 251 00:16:09.039 --> 00:16:12.120 pizza from Patsy's on West seventy fourth Street and then, 252 00:16:12.519 --> 00:16:15.279 in a change that should annoy anyone who has ever 253 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:19.120 worked as an assistant for the first Avenue and one 254 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:22.919 one hundred and eighteenth Street locations said looks too detailed 255 00:16:22.919 --> 00:16:25.480 to be coated. To read it as a cipher, you 256 00:16:25.480 --> 00:16:27.559 would have to assume that Patsi's does not refer to 257 00:16:27.600 --> 00:16:29.720 one of the better pies in the city, but rather 258 00:16:29.720 --> 00:16:32.480 to a specific type of illicit activity available at two 259 00:16:32.559 --> 00:16:37.600 locations where actual Patsy's Pizzeri's happened to be. Okay, sure, 260 00:16:38.519 --> 00:16:43.240 these specific instances, it's probably correct, but there's a lot 261 00:16:43.279 --> 00:16:51.080 more there, right, you have in these files Epstein's assistant 262 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:55.440 referring to a sixty thousand dollars pizza room in his 263 00:16:55.879 --> 00:16:59.440 renovated apartment. That's kind of weird. I mean, look, man, like, 264 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:02.440 you know, I like a deep dish pie as much 265 00:17:02.440 --> 00:17:05.640 as the next guy, and I get it. Sixty thousand 266 00:17:05.680 --> 00:17:09.160 dollars is a lot less of a thing for Epstein 267 00:17:09.200 --> 00:17:12.279 than it is for me. But uh, I don't know, man, 268 00:17:13.039 --> 00:17:15.880 that seems a little bit odd. You have other references to, 269 00:17:16.119 --> 00:17:20.920 you know, renting a pizza. I don't know how one 270 00:17:21.000 --> 00:17:25.079 would do that. And look like my conclusion is not 271 00:17:25.200 --> 00:17:30.200 particularly I am mister pizzagate. I believe it. But this article, 272 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:33.720 as we will get into, is clearly a disingenuous reading. 273 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:36.960 The point of this article is not the title. The 274 00:17:36.960 --> 00:17:39.640 point of this article is not to examine the claims made. 275 00:17:39.759 --> 00:17:45.599 The point of this article is to effectively refocus the 276 00:17:46.119 --> 00:17:51.880 angst of the progressive reading this away from this uncomfortable truth, 277 00:17:51.880 --> 00:17:56.200 this uncomfortable thought that maybe the chuds were onto something 278 00:17:56.680 --> 00:18:00.200 and onto their real target, which, let's be honest, is 279 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:04.400 those chuts. Yet Otkham's razor has comparatively little to tell 280 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:07.880 us about grape soda. Fish and Epstein refer to pizza 281 00:18:07.880 --> 00:18:11.640 and grape soda so often and so often together, seemingly 282 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:14.480 never just grape soda and rarely just pizza, that the 283 00:18:14.519 --> 00:18:19.880 whole thing starts to look like a shibbalthe I'm gonna 284 00:18:19.960 --> 00:18:23.400 leave that there. On March thirty first, twenty eighteen, Fish 285 00:18:23.480 --> 00:18:27.359 texts pizza, grape soda, naf said, a little more than 286 00:18:27.359 --> 00:18:30.519 half an hour later, Epstein replies, go no, the same 287 00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:33.839 expression and expression with which he answered the no one 288 00:18:33.920 --> 00:18:37.279 else can understand message, also about pizza and grape soda. 289 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:40.200 There the exchange ends, leaving the reader to guess what 290 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:44.039 happened next. The mystery deepens when you notice Fish often 291 00:18:44.079 --> 00:18:48.079 follows references to pizza and grape soda with emoji depicting 292 00:18:48.160 --> 00:18:51.200 an African American, at least four times that I noticed. 293 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:57.000 On May twenty fourth, Fish texted Epstein to suggest they 294 00:18:57.079 --> 00:19:03.440 try the pop tarts at Greenberg's Bakery, meaning William Greenberg Desserts. 295 00:19:03.839 --> 00:19:07.319 Epstein textbacks June fourth, and Fish responds, first we get 296 00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:10.279 a slice of pizza with grape soda, then the pop tart. 297 00:19:10.440 --> 00:19:15.759 Epstein responds, wow, Fish sends the black judge emoji. This 298 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:19.440 is another exchange that seems potentially too weird to really 299 00:19:19.440 --> 00:19:23.680 be about pizza and grape soda. Grape drinks are stereotypically 300 00:19:23.799 --> 00:19:29.319 associated with African Americans, huh, A bit of niche racism that, 301 00:19:29.400 --> 00:19:32.079 in combination with the status of cheese, pizza, and soda 302 00:19:32.119 --> 00:19:36.240 as essentially juvenile foods, invites all manners of conjecture. The 303 00:19:36.279 --> 00:19:39.319 amateur detective might conclude that pizza and grape soda means 304 00:19:39.359 --> 00:19:43.799 black prostitutes, or one Italian prostitute and one black prostitute, 305 00:19:44.279 --> 00:19:47.000 or one black child and one Satanic cabal dressed like 306 00:19:47.039 --> 00:19:51.640 Super Mario. You couldn't know, but you can speculate endlessly. 307 00:19:52.039 --> 00:19:55.039 Then the next day, thick fish text couldn't wait, followed 308 00:19:55.039 --> 00:19:57.519 by an actual photograph of an actual slice of pizza 309 00:19:57.559 --> 00:20:01.599 and actual grape soda cuts through, and suddenly the whole 310 00:20:01.599 --> 00:20:04.400 conversation looks like what it first appears to be. Two 311 00:20:04.519 --> 00:20:07.640 older Jewish men with problematic running joke about their mutual 312 00:20:08.440 --> 00:20:14.279 infection for particular combinations of foods. Go figure, and again, 313 00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:18.599 this is exactly what I'm talking about. Right, there are 314 00:20:19.039 --> 00:20:21.359 millions of documents, between two and a half and three 315 00:20:21.400 --> 00:20:24.720 and a half million, depending on who you ask. There's 316 00:20:25.000 --> 00:20:29.200 endless fodder for narrative creation. Just put a pin in 317 00:20:29.240 --> 00:20:31.519 any one of his claims, because very clearly, as we 318 00:20:31.559 --> 00:20:33.039 get to the back half of this, it will become 319 00:20:33.079 --> 00:20:36.279 clear that this is all motivated reason. It's that actually 320 00:20:36.400 --> 00:20:40.359 concerned with this question. He simply found convenient examples that 321 00:20:40.359 --> 00:20:44.680 support what he already thinks But then there's this to 322 00:20:44.680 --> 00:20:49.279 thrust the reader right back into paranoia. Two Jeffrey. Jeffrey's 323 00:20:49.279 --> 00:20:53.440 email from redacted, Good afternoon, Would it be possible for 324 00:20:53.480 --> 00:20:55.160 Bryce and I to go over to Red Hook and 325 00:20:55.200 --> 00:20:59.839 have a quick pizza meal? Warmest regards? The sender's name 326 00:20:59.839 --> 00:21:02.960 has been redacted in the identity of Bryce is unclear, 327 00:21:03.079 --> 00:21:06.200 but a former New Zealand Army chief named Bryce Gordon 328 00:21:06.559 --> 00:21:10.240 co managed Epstein's New Mexico rams and was interviewed by 329 00:21:10.240 --> 00:21:13.880 the FBI in two thousand and seven. Red Hook is 330 00:21:13.880 --> 00:21:17.319 an unincorporated town in the US Virgin Islands, the least 331 00:21:17.559 --> 00:21:20.920 populated such place, according to a twenty twenty census, consisting 332 00:21:20.960 --> 00:21:23.880 mostly of marinas. There is, as it turns out, a 333 00:21:23.920 --> 00:21:27.839 pizza restaurant there, But why would someone needs Epstein's permission 334 00:21:28.000 --> 00:21:31.160 to have a quick pizza meal to which the financier 335 00:21:31.240 --> 00:21:34.599 was not invited. It's enough to drive a sensible person 336 00:21:34.799 --> 00:21:42.920 to speculation among online conspiracists. Among online conspiracists, speculation had 337 00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:46.519 already won the day again, and the people who bought Petz, 338 00:21:46.720 --> 00:21:49.640 bought into pizzagate are declaring that they were right all along. 339 00:21:50.680 --> 00:21:54.319 This is exactly the section of this article that got 340 00:21:54.359 --> 00:21:57.319 me to do this strength this next one. It is 341 00:21:57.440 --> 00:22:01.039 one of the while the sentences ever written in an article, 342 00:22:01.839 --> 00:22:05.799 especially in allegedly a respectable And I don't know why 343 00:22:05.799 --> 00:22:08.359 I'm surprised by this. I shouldn't be. I still am, 344 00:22:09.119 --> 00:22:11.440 deep down. I think I have some sort of a 345 00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:20.079 battered sense of shame and standards that I really should disregard. Anyway, 346 00:22:20.279 --> 00:22:25.160 this is the section the people who bought into Pizzagate 347 00:22:25.240 --> 00:22:28.720 are declaring they were right all along. They weren't. If 348 00:22:28.799 --> 00:22:31.400 Epstein and his friends did use pizza as a code 349 00:22:31.440 --> 00:22:34.359 word for sex, that wouldn't mean that the original Pizzagate 350 00:22:34.359 --> 00:22:37.599 conspiracy theory was correct, even if it was the case 351 00:22:37.640 --> 00:22:40.079 that pizza was a sexual code word in the Podesta emails. 352 00:22:40.680 --> 00:22:43.720 So basically we see here the shifting of the goalposts 353 00:22:44.039 --> 00:22:47.000 that the conspiracy isn't correct unless it matches up with 354 00:22:47.119 --> 00:22:52.200 the predictions of another conspiracy. Look like, I do not 355 00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:54.920 believe in Kewanon. I do not have the maximal take 356 00:22:55.000 --> 00:22:58.839 on Epstein, But this is a horrible argument. He's basically saying, 357 00:22:58.839 --> 00:23:01.400 even if you're right, well you're not right. I mean, 358 00:23:01.400 --> 00:23:04.119 that's effectively a more concise way to say exactly what 359 00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:08.200 he said it's absurd, and we get some slight chin 360 00:23:08.319 --> 00:23:12.920 stroking next to you to bulk out this argument. But 361 00:23:12.960 --> 00:23:16.240 there's really not much to it. Don't worry. This carries 362 00:23:16.279 --> 00:23:19.000 on from here. A person who stumbles on the correct 363 00:23:19.039 --> 00:23:22.880 answer through incorrect reasoning is still mistaken. Socrates explains this 364 00:23:22.920 --> 00:23:26.359 principle in Plato's Mino Dialogue, in which a servant boy 365 00:23:26.359 --> 00:23:28.519 correctly guesses the area of a two foot by two 366 00:23:28.519 --> 00:23:31.720 foot square four feet, then reveals his ignorance by declaring 367 00:23:31.720 --> 00:23:33.960 the area of a four by four foot square is 368 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:36.839 eight feet. Socrates argues the boy was wrong when he 369 00:23:36.880 --> 00:23:39.319 got the right answer. He thought you calculated the area 370 00:23:39.319 --> 00:23:42.480 of a square by doubling the length of one size. Anyway, 371 00:23:42.680 --> 00:23:45.759 Socrates was put to death by popular vote. That's democracy 372 00:23:45.799 --> 00:23:48.680 in action. The potential for thousands or even millions of 373 00:23:48.680 --> 00:23:52.319 Pizzagate conspiracists to feel vindicated and therefore empowered by the 374 00:23:52.359 --> 00:23:55.400 preminence of Pizza in the latest bash of Epstein's files 375 00:23:55.480 --> 00:23:58.960 is scary in a similar democratic fashion, evoking the opposite 376 00:23:59.000 --> 00:24:03.279 fear from of the excuse me, evoking the opposite fear 377 00:24:03.319 --> 00:24:05.000 from the fear of elites. The heart of the Epstein 378 00:24:05.039 --> 00:24:09.799 conspiracy a terror of ordinary people. That is the point 379 00:24:09.839 --> 00:24:14.720 of this article. This author, his audience is way more 380 00:24:14.759 --> 00:24:18.960 afraid of the chudgs of you, of the people who 381 00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:22.519 may or may not have been right about their conspiracy 382 00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:26.079 theories quote unquote, than they are of, you know, the 383 00:24:26.440 --> 00:24:33.920 actual collection of blackmailers, inside traders, actual traders, and the 384 00:24:34.480 --> 00:24:38.039 sexual abusers at the center of this that is comparatively 385 00:24:38.599 --> 00:24:42.680 less of a scary or disconcerting thing to them. The 386 00:24:42.720 --> 00:24:48.400 Epstein story is unkillable because it is a vampire story. Huh. 387 00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:51.240 A parable about the power and privilege that wealthy people 388 00:24:51.279 --> 00:24:53.599 wield in the twenty first century. Show me a guy 389 00:24:53.640 --> 00:24:56.799 who believes Epstein traffic children to Bill Clinton and Donald Trump, 390 00:24:56.960 --> 00:24:58.759 and I'll show you a guy who thinks rich people 391 00:24:58.799 --> 00:25:01.799 run the world. He's not wrong about that second part, 392 00:25:02.279 --> 00:25:04.640 but he's probably wrong about the details as well as 393 00:25:04.640 --> 00:25:07.079 a host of other stuff, including but not limited to 394 00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:14.799 vaccines and Jews and lasers that control the weather. I'm 395 00:25:14.839 --> 00:25:18.599 not touching that, and his righteous wrongness. He's become one 396 00:25:18.599 --> 00:25:21.279 of the most terrifying forces in the twentieth century America. 397 00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:26.519 And that's the thing right that you have to be right. 398 00:25:26.559 --> 00:25:29.400 You not only have the goalpost shifted to simply being 399 00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:33.400 factually correct, but you have to be factually correct in 400 00:25:33.400 --> 00:25:38.319 a way that this progressive type believes is appropriate. Look like, 401 00:25:38.400 --> 00:25:42.480