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Speaker 1: If you really knew who you are, if you really

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knew that God had a plan for you, if you

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really understood what you were supposed to do here, you'd

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live so much differently.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Being a Christian isn't just for you. Right, God created

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you for a purpose, and that purpose wasn't just for

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you to get saved. Us receiving salvation is the beginning

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of this journey that we're on.

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Speaker 3: That's impossible.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you what I believe. What's your weakness?

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It is not your technique. Don't think you know.

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Speaker 3: The Impossible Life Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I mean you're sitting on a winning lottery.

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Speaker 1: TECHNI an idea that is fully formed, fully understood.

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Speaker 2: That sticks.

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Speaker 1: This is the Impossible Life Podcast because Nick and I

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are attempting to live impossible lives. What we know is

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that nothing is impossible. So instead of using impossible as

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an excuse to not try, we'll use the pursuit of

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impossible as an accelerant for greatness. If something's never been

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done before, that just means it's unexplored. If they tell

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you it's too hard, it's just waiting to be simplified.

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Impossible as a default label used by uncourageous people unwilling

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to take a risk. The real truth is this The

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solution to any impossible task starts with this question, if

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I had to, what would it take?

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Speaker 2: What would it take?

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Speaker 4: Welcome to another episode of the Impossible Life Podcast. I'm

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your co host, Nick Surface, and I'm looking across at

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a man that's so futuristic. He knows the matrix was

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a documentary. That's right, friends, Garrett Uncle back a man

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whose name in Latin means Morpheus.

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Speaker 2: It's ridiculous, it's Latin.

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Speaker 3: Morpheus is a Latin word.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Gee, I was going into the recesses.

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Speaker 4: I've been as I'm doing the thirty day Basic Discipline

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training or a challenge. I have been going back through

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some doozies of an episode because one of the episodes

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on that path is number two, and we also cover

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episode nine and like some early on episodes and even

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Speaker 2: Of the ones in those number two resilient.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, number two was resilience.

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Speaker 4: Yea, And dude, you talk about I put this in

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as one of my takeaways. It's not often that you

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get to like go back and have a conversation with yourself,

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like I don't think it's really possible sometimes you see

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video clips, but not many people can go back and

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literally almost have a conversation with themselves. And because we

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have hours of our own conversations on record, it is

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essentially me getting go to go back hundreds of hours

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I get to go back and basically speak with myself

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from five years ago, and dude, it is dang it.

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Speaker 4: It's been kind of revelatory to me because I was

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saying this to my wife. I was like, man, I

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know what I thought about myself at the time, and

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see how much the perspective has shifted. And so this

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is today's episode is actually gonna be a fun one.

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something we want people to undertand what's possible, Yeah, that

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your life could be different. And I feel in one

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eternity in the human heart. And that's why there's stories

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hierarchy of needs, and you continue to climb up that

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ladder and there's something that you just cannot satisfy. And

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be more than this, right, and I know what I'm

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doing right now can't be all that there is. And

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aren't just seeking Christ but looking for total fulfillment in

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that life of following Christ. Right, you can go to

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church and say there's got to be more than this. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: No, these are stories the lesson. We're going to share

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which I'm looking forward to doing. So anyways, let's just

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let's just dive in. Okay, So how this started before

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highlight for people some things that have been revelatory to

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what you charged for me was a lot of money

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virtually every time I booked a session with you, just

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just talking about where my mindset was at the time,

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into Mighty Men. Moving from California out here and coming

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into Mightument was like a very intimidating experience. I think

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don't know, it's the men's group that Garrett leads and

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then I help lead, and there's four to five hundred

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of us a week that meet together. Now you walk in,

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there's a culture and an atmosphere. You don't come in

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and like push yourself in on there. There's a bunch

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of alongside of this, because you know, one of the

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on here is is obviously something that everybody gets to

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him in the entire time as well, not necessarily as

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close in our relationship. But it's been really transformational for

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because this has been almost like regular beats in my

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life to almost measure myself. Some people, if you were

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progressing in your job, you'd be like, oh, yeah, that's

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when I got my promotion. Well, this is one of

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those consistencies that you get to kind of see your

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to be open to actually investing in myself. And I

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in myself with you, And so what I saw on you, man,

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this coming back to the Lord and literally literally he

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was going to break in on my life, and at

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this point I sought to coach with you. He had

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Speaker 1: Well where that authority comes from. Authority like conviction is

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do everything that I can to share that with people.

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you wanted to hear it a little bit, a little

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bit more up close. You wanted to see it a

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little bit more. Because the journey that I'm trying to

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take people on is that they would know who they are. Right,

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if you really knew who you are, if you really

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knew that God had a plan for you, if you

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really understood what you were supposed to do here, you'd live.

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God created you for a purpose, and that purpose wasn't

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just for you to get saved. God us receiving salvation

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is the beginning of this journey that we're on. And

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it's why I identify so much with a warrior. That's

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why this podcast is a podcast for men, and I

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love that women listen to it as well, But it's

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because the purpose mindset of a warrior is my life

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isn't about me, right, And I love that we just

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did this episode recently of The One right because it

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tells this story and understanding, like Christ is the one,

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but we're supposed to be christ Like and we get

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to play the One in a certain way. And when

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you know who you are, right, you realize it's not

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about you, but it's who am I supposed to serve here?

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on the mission that God puts you on. And so

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what this episode is about, what this podcast is about,

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some of the stuff that we're touching on today is

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really this journey of identity. Really why people listen to this,

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like the reason people listen to this podcast and what

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they're getting out of it is the origin story of

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how this podcast came to be, right. It was me

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trying to share with another another man of here's what

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you here's who you could really be, Here's what you

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could really be capable of. And it's Nick's passion for

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this show because you spent so much time with me,

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you just want to continue, Like, Man, I want other

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people to get this.

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Speaker 3: Too, so badly. I do, Man, so badly I do.

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Speaker 4: You said something right there, man, that until you know

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who you are, you can't go on the journey that

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God's got for you. And I think that's where so

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many people are at is is they they're like, man,

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I want to go do this because I felt like that,

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like as we are going in this, you know I've

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told about how I like was listening to our podcast

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and realizing, like I sound like an idiot and you're

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just like dropping all these wisdom bombs and I really

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wanted to, you know, start dropping wisdom bombs too, and

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God stepping in me and like no, like I've already

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got a Garret uncle block. I need you to be

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Nick surface Like I really felt that so strongly in me.

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But like I'm sitting there across from I mean going

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back to you saying it was my first camp.

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Speaker 4: We did what we always do, which is the Warrior Games,

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which is where you compete. There's things like, you know,

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lifting heavy weights and jumping over walls and going on

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runs and insert. Garrett has given navycl a few tools

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and just tell them to get to beat some men

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down and see who takes it best.

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Speaker 3: That's basically what we did.

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Speaker 4: You know what I did on our first camping trip,

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g I sat out and watched because I didn't need

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Speaker 3: And you know what it was.

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I thought I was some sort of athlete and I

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was looking around at some of these dudes and going like, man,

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I know that guy would beat me. And I couldn't

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deal with actually like having to face that. That was

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where my level of identity was at. So I sat

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out and watched and told myself a story about how

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stupid it was.

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Speaker 3: Very first games.

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Speaker 2: You didn't know who you were. I had no idea.

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Speaker 1: It comes back to comes back to this Grape movie

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always shocks people when I quote this one, Ell Yeah

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comes back to this scrape movie Lion King where Mufasa

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said to his son, you have forgotten who you are

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because you've forgotten who I am. Right, when you know

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who your father is, yes, then you know who you are.

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This is both spiritual and literal. Right, I have the

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privilege of having a great father on the earth, but

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I also have relationship with my heavenly father. When you

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know who he is, you know who you and you

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know who you are. And what happens to Simba in

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the movie after he reunites with his father, he knows

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who he is, and what does he do Once he

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knows who he is? He goes home and he does

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what he was supposed to do. And that wasn't and

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you know, so much, so much great character in that movie,

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But Simba's life wasn't for him. It was for all

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the people that he served, right, he became the one

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that he was supposed to be. This is the journey

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that Neo goes through in the Matrix of learning who

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he is.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: I was just reminding Nick before the show of this

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scene in the Matrix where when Neo goes to speak

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to the oracle. What the point of that scene is?

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It triggers Neo to go on this journey of deciding

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who he is, because if you remember in the beginning,

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he gets out of the matrix and they tell him

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he's the one, and he's not sure if he believes

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that right, and he goes to the oracle to ask

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the question.

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Speaker 2: Am I the one?

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Speaker 1: And essentially what she tells him is it's not my

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job to tell you that you have to decide that

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for yourself. And the signs in Latin, so a lot

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of people miss it, but the sign above Neo's head

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while he's speaking to the oracle, it says in Latin,

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know thyself. This is what the journey that a man

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has to go through is when and it's you know,

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I've talked about this before from training Tadpoles. Every man's

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asking the same question, am I who? I think that

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I am?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: When you know who you are, you know what you're

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supposed to do, And that's what people are really searching for.

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It's why this podcast exists. It's what I want people

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to hear that there's so much more in you and

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that thread that you're pulling on you just got to

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keep pursuing it because it's really like the journey of

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a great life. And this is what the Bible talks about,

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that you stay faithful to the end, not that you

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believed one time, not that you had an idea and

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God all hyped up and excited, not that you accomplished

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one mission, but that you stayed faithful all the way

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to the end. That faithfulness is you knowing who God

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is all the way to the end, through the ups

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and the downs.

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Speaker 2: And when you do that, it shows you who you are.

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Speaker 4: And that's really the whole thread of what's happened in

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this podcast that I didn't really know was going to happen.

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I think that this is so true of so many people.

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We pursue a certain outcome, so like fast forward, I

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go for a run, I have this I literally I'm

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listening to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is you know, we've been coaching for

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what a couple of months?

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Speaker 4: I think we've been coaching for probably three or four

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months at this point. And apparently you were enjoying it.

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I tell I was telling this story the other day,

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because you have the rest of the intensity face. We

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used to meet at a coffee shop and I would

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always be respectful of your time, like, hey, I know

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we're at exactly an hour. Because I our conversations, we

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never had any issues with things to talk about because

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I was asking you questions and I had been working

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stuff out since last time, as I was taking copious

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amounts of notes, and so I would I would get

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to the end, I'm like, hey, do you have to go?

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And You're like no, I'm enjoying this, and I remember

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to always be like, oh you are, Like I was surprised.

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Speaker 1: You actually were one of my favorite clients because you

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because you did you know, you know when you help people,

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you're excited when you help people and it helps them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you.

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Speaker 5: Said, well yeah, Like just this week, I was having

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a call with some of my vendors at Union who

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are like super pumped and excited for us, and I

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was just sharing a milestone with them and this is

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my milestone, not theirs, and they're like so excited.

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Speaker 2: They're like, this is amazing. We're so glad to hear that.

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Speaker 1: They're like, aren't you excited and just you know me

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like without flinching, or this is my excited face. Yeah,

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I mean just pursed out laughing. Well, I was being serious.

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I mean it's just I don't know. Not a lot

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raises the pulse at this point in my life. But

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what I had said to Nick was like, you're one

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of my favorite clients. Why because you actually do what

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I'm telling you to do.

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Speaker 4: But it's so funny because when you said this now,

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and I keep in mind, I know, do you talk

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about identity and lack of So I'm sitting there when

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you said that to me, I remember, I was like,

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I am. I was so surprised because I was like,

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first of all, I couldn't see anything in you that

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would have told me that, And second I was like,

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why would I You know, I'm thinking this guy must

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have twenty people that were way better than me. And

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it's funny because Lindsay who I Thank god Lindsay's there

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to chronicle some of them.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: One of the things I'm careful not to do when

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I coach people because people put me up on a pedestal. Yeah,

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and you're not paying me to affirm you correct. You're

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paying me to show you who you are, right, And

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this is like, it's not like, this isn't me being withholding.

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I love the people in my life deeply, but I'm

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mistraining you if I'm teaching you to do things for

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my affirmations, right right. A lot of times I am

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really proud of the people that I work with, but

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I don't want them to know that because that's not

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what I want.

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Speaker 4: Them to work for. Yeah, I get that one percent.

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I'm not sure that'll make sense to everybody.

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Speaker 4: So Lindsay actually told us that you had said, like, Hey,

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I think this guy might be might become one of

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my friends. At some point you had said that, and

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I was like completely caught off guards like I don't

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even know if this guy likes me. I'm paid for

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time with him because I see something in him, and

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so that's.

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Speaker 3: Kind of funny.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, so we've been coaching for a few months

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and this dynamic was growing, and I was like, you

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were giving me some things early.

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Speaker 4: A lot of what I was having questions about was

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structure and of life, like taxonomy of how things work,

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and you were giving me in a way that I'd

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never heard before. And so I'm running, I'm on a run.

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I'm listening to Tim Fair's podcast, which is still a

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great podcast. But if you know anything about Tim Ferriss.

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He struggled with depression and literally had plans to kill himself.

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And I remember he does these episodes where you can

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just ask questions and someone was asking him how to

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be happy and I was listening to his answer and

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I was like, you know what, man, I know a

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guy who could answer that question way better. That was

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literally my exact thought process. And it was clear's day.

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I still know the exact spot, I still run this route.

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I know exactly where I was because it was like

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it was like, once again, it was like a God

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megaphone moment, that guy needs a podcast. So I'd like

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stop my run mid run and.

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Speaker 2: Just text you.

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Speaker 4: I said, Hey, would you ever think about doing a podcast?

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The point of us telling the stories, like so much

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of our life, is that we think we are doing

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one thing and God's actually doing something completely different. And

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what he's doing is, like you said, He's developing you.

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What you said at the beginning that until you know

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who you are, you're not ready to go on the

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journey that God has for you. At the beginning, when

482
00:20:01,079 --> 00:20:03,319
we started the podcast, it was like, how many listeners

483
00:20:03,319 --> 00:20:05,480
can we get what sort of metrics? How are we

484
00:20:05,519 --> 00:20:07,599
going to do this? What I had no idea about

485
00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,400
was that this was going to be like a hyper

486
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,680
drive acceleration for my own development of who of me,

487
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,720
growing in my identity. And that's what's kind of happened

488
00:20:16,799 --> 00:20:18,519
while we've done this. And I think the reason I'm

489
00:20:18,519 --> 00:20:20,400
sharing that isn't because it's like, oh, hey, look at me,

490
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,079
could care less about that. It's for every person out there.

491
00:20:23,319 --> 00:20:25,960
Everyone that's listening to this will have something that they're pursuing,

492
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,799
and they think it's about getting to that finish line,

493
00:20:29,079 --> 00:20:31,240
like when I can get my business to X, when

494
00:20:31,319 --> 00:20:33,400
my kids are like this, when my marriage is better,

495
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,519
when I have this level of fitness. And what's actually

496
00:20:36,559 --> 00:20:39,160
happening is God is going to develop the who in

497
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you where you actually know who you are and how

498
00:20:41,519 --> 00:20:43,119
you know who you are? G Like you said, you

499
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know your father?

500
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Speaker 3: What is it?

501
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Speaker 4: It's a journey of you of your relationship with him.

502
00:20:47,039 --> 00:20:49,880
It's your journey into God that when you grow into God,

503
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,640
you can then start to live from a place of

504
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,839
being in Him rather than taking all this external feedback.

505
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,359
So go back to where I was, I'm at this

506
00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,519
external feedback point where I'm still like exactly like, if

507
00:21:00,519 --> 00:21:02,279
you just said, hey, I think you're a great it would.

508
00:21:02,039 --> 00:21:02,960
Speaker 3: Have meant so much to me.

509
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,519
Speaker 4: I would have been like, wow, maybe I am those things,

510
00:21:05,559 --> 00:21:08,119
And of course I'm very grateful that you didn't. So anyways,

511
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:09,599
I send you this text, I'm like, if it was

512
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,160
and once again, remember I don't think much of myself here,

513
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:13,920
so I'm like, if it was out of place in

514
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,200
time where that suited you, would you consider having a podcast?

515
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,960
I think people need what you have. And in my mind,

516
00:21:20,079 --> 00:21:22,400
I'm going to go in and just record you, and

517
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,400
like I'm thinking, maybe he'll have me on it. I

518
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,240
don't know if you would even want that, because I'm like,

519
00:21:26,279 --> 00:21:28,720
I'm definitely not worthy of this guy, of being sad

520
00:21:28,759 --> 00:21:32,519
across from this guy, and so I had no idea

521
00:21:32,519 --> 00:21:34,920
what we were getting into. Man Like truthfully, like you

522
00:21:35,039 --> 00:21:37,799
said your response back to is, I know podcast takes

523
00:21:37,839 --> 00:21:38,440
a lot of time.

524
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Speaker 2: I had thought about doing a podcast. I'd considered it

525
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:42,720
for a while.

526
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,799
Speaker 1: Actually, the podcast that I wanted to start, or that

527
00:21:47,839 --> 00:21:50,559
I had thought about starting, was what I was going

528
00:21:50,599 --> 00:21:52,880
to call it was Better Questions. Yeah, right, and that

529
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,680
would be the theme I don't know exactly what the

530
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,519
title would be, but about better questions because when I like,

531
00:21:58,519 --> 00:22:00,240
when I coach with people, like they tell many of

532
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,279
their problems and I'd say it back to them, I

533
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,960
tell them their problem from a different perspective, right, like,

534
00:22:05,039 --> 00:22:07,559
here's actually the question you should be asking. It's really

535
00:22:07,599 --> 00:22:09,559
center like you can't solve a problem till you know

536
00:22:09,559 --> 00:22:11,400
what the problem is. And a lot of people talk

537
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,880
about the symptoms of their problem, not the actual problem.

538
00:22:14,759 --> 00:22:17,400
And that's I mean, it's one of It's why I

539
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,680
say my superpowers perspective. When you think about things the

540
00:22:19,759 --> 00:22:22,119
right way, like, then you can actually change something.

541
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 2: And I knew I wanted to do that.

542
00:22:24,519 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 1: But when you started talking about, you know, helping me

543
00:22:27,319 --> 00:22:30,200
with the podcast, I saw something. I saw a much

544
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,880
better idea for a podcast. I saw something that was

545
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,480
way better than me just doing something by myself. And

546
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,559
I hadn't started that podcast by myself because I knew

547
00:22:37,599 --> 00:22:41,160
the amount of work that it would take. And I

548
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,640
can say I've followed I followed the Holy Spirit in

549
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,799
my life, and second to that, I follow my gut.

550
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,920
I am I'm alive because I've listened to my gut.

551
00:22:50,559 --> 00:22:53,799
And there's times where I just know right. It's why

552
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,799
I'm like I tell people, I'm very lucky. Right, things

553
00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:01,480
just happened to work out for me, and that with

554
00:23:01,559 --> 00:23:03,640
not starting the podcast was a gut thing for me.

555
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,960
I knew it was right, but it's not right yet.

556
00:23:06,319 --> 00:23:09,599
It's not right yet. And you know when you told

557
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,039
me like, hey, I want to help you do this,

558
00:23:11,079 --> 00:23:11,799
I knew it was right.

559
00:23:12,039 --> 00:23:12,279
Speaker 2: Right.

560
00:23:12,599 --> 00:23:14,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've not actually heard you say that before. So

561
00:23:14,759 --> 00:23:17,119
that's that's interesting because I always did wonder what it

562
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,480
was that made you jump in, and but you talked

563
00:23:20,519 --> 00:23:22,799
about how like you the big thing.

564
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 1: One of the ways that I like, you know, you

565
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,519
never want to be someone this is just caveat really quick.

566
00:23:27,559 --> 00:23:30,319
You never want to be someone who like, oh it's

567
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,359
not time yet. It's not like I have trained myself

568
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,119
like I'm an action person. I'm not a hesitator, right,

569
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,640
you have I wanted to be, because you'll light people

570
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,839
light to themselves like, oh, you know, it's just not

571
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,640
the right time yet. No, you're just afraid, Okay, because

572
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,839
I'm I have trained myself to be someone who's not

573
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,480
a hesitator. I'm not afraid. That allows me to be

574
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,799
able to listen when I when I hear the voices

575
00:23:54,799 --> 00:23:57,759
says it's not time yet, right, that I'm not fooling

576
00:23:57,799 --> 00:23:59,240
myself into sense like.

577
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 2: Because I want to go.

578
00:24:00,599 --> 00:24:04,039
Speaker 1: I am the action person, but I can because of that,

579
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,640
I can hear the voices says it's not time yet, right.

580
00:24:07,039 --> 00:24:08,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, you start from a place of I'm ready to

581
00:24:08,839 --> 00:24:10,799
step rather than like, oh man, someone's gonna have to

582
00:24:10,799 --> 00:24:12,720
push me off this ledge. And there's a big difference

583
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,759
to that. Now I had no idea what I was

584
00:24:14,759 --> 00:24:18,200
getting into. But you say that every person has a

585
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,119
reason for their journey, and like you know that they

586
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,079
need that some people need to hear, like over and

587
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,799
over and over again, and like there was a few

588
00:24:24,799 --> 00:24:27,079
things when we were prepping. You talked about how most people,

589
00:24:27,559 --> 00:24:30,240
the difference between where they're at and where they're going

590
00:24:30,319 --> 00:24:32,000
is simply a matter of the way that they're thinking.

591
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,000
And man, I love that. So I hope that's so

592
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,599
encouraging because if it was a matter of you need

593
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,400
to be able to do certain things physically, there's a

594
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,480
lot of people that just wouldn't be able to get there.

595
00:24:41,519 --> 00:24:44,240
But if it's the because of the way that you think, well,

596
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,279
here's the encouraging part.

597
00:24:45,319 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 2: Oh.

598
00:24:45,559 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: Some of my like earliest revelation in life was the

599
00:24:49,279 --> 00:24:50,240
power of mindset.

600
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 2: Yeah right where I'm.

601
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,279
Speaker 1: You know, like I would say that the earliest one was,

602
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,559
like there's like seven eight years old watching cartoons of

603
00:25:00,759 --> 00:25:05,039
Spider Man and Juggernaut. Juggernaut is the physical specimen. Spider

604
00:25:05,039 --> 00:25:08,240
Man would always outsmart Juggernaut, right, because Juggernaut was one

605
00:25:08,279 --> 00:25:11,160
of the people that could, like you know, just was strong,

606
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,079
way stronger than Spider Man. All of like his traps

607
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,279
that Spider Man would set, Juggernaut would just break through them.

608
00:25:17,599 --> 00:25:19,759
The only way that Spider Man could be Juggernaut was

609
00:25:19,759 --> 00:25:23,039
he had to outthink him, right. And I just had

610
00:25:23,079 --> 00:25:26,160
so many epiphanies in my life of the power of mindset,

611
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,680
and you know places where I would experience it in

612
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,160
my life or see it in movies and other things

613
00:25:31,599 --> 00:25:33,559
where you could win through your thinking, not just through

614
00:25:33,559 --> 00:25:35,680
your physicality. Like strength is great, you need to be

615
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,440
physically strong. And I just continue to have this revelation

616
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,920
over and over and again in my life that the

617
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,759
way that you think is the most powerful thing that

618
00:25:42,839 --> 00:25:45,480
you have right as a man think it's so isy

619
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,039
and so like I that's been My pursuit since I

620
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,839
was very young was to be a great thinker, because

621
00:25:51,839 --> 00:25:53,480
I want to be great, and so the beginning of

622
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,799
that is learning to think great. And so that's been

623
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,240
you know what's happened on this podcast is I've really

624
00:25:58,279 --> 00:26:00,839
just wanted to share a mindset with you. Yeah, it's

625
00:26:00,839 --> 00:26:03,519
the break free for everyone. If you just thought differently,

626
00:26:03,599 --> 00:26:05,240
your life would be a million times better.

627
00:26:05,519 --> 00:26:09,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, And I find that so encouraging and you

628
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,240
and because you've the thing is that's great.

629
00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:12,519
Speaker 3: A lot of people can say that.

630
00:26:12,559 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 4: And what I always I mean, I appreciate so much

631
00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:17,559
about you, But what I always tell people is it's

632
00:26:17,599 --> 00:26:21,279
like you're you're not speaking theoretically like you like you

633
00:26:21,319 --> 00:26:22,960
say you were the bottom third of your class in

634
00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:26,880
buds and physically physically, but you and you said this exactly,

635
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,000
you felt like you were the top one percent mentally

636
00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:31,519
at nineteen years old. And you're up against guys who

637
00:26:31,519 --> 00:26:34,920
are D one athletes, who are like Adidas sponsored Olympic runners,

638
00:26:35,319 --> 00:26:37,640
and you're going, okay, like this is like me going

639
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,400
to an NFL combine and being like I got you guys.

640
00:26:40,519 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 3: It's like no, you like at your age, no chance,

641
00:26:43,079 --> 00:26:44,000
No you don't you don't know.

642
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 2: What I know?

643
00:26:45,279 --> 00:26:47,799
Speaker 4: Like that that is, wouldn't you like to have that

644
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,519
if you're out there where you go in and you're

645
00:26:49,559 --> 00:26:50,119
like you guys.

646
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 2: Are playing the rock.

647
00:26:50,519 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: I think it was such an important part of my

648
00:26:52,079 --> 00:26:55,240
journey because I was also only nineteen. I went on

649
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,359
to get way stronger and way more capable in the

650
00:26:58,519 --> 00:27:00,480
in the seal teams. I mean, and I got my

651
00:27:00,599 --> 00:27:02,240
name on the board in our gym.

652
00:27:02,279 --> 00:27:03,519
Speaker 2: For multiple categories.

653
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: But there's a there's a board of you know, top

654
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:11,519
ten in all these different categories you know, run, speed, lifts, jumps,

655
00:27:11,559 --> 00:27:13,039
all those things. I mean, I got my board, my

656
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,319
name on the board in multiple categories. So it's not

657
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,039
like I was, you know, just completely physically deficient. But

658
00:27:19,079 --> 00:27:21,000
it followed afterwards exactly.

659
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:21,759
Speaker 2: That came later.

660
00:27:21,799 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 4: You didn't, Yeah, you didn't get through because you were

661
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,480
already going to be on that board. You learned how

662
00:27:25,519 --> 00:27:27,759
to get on that board exactly. And that's and I

663
00:27:28,279 --> 00:27:30,240
want people to capture that because there's so much of

664
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,319
that is I hope that's in you as you're sitting there,

665
00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:35,759
as you're realizing, okay, I may not be there's some

666
00:27:35,799 --> 00:27:36,799
things that just take time.

667
00:27:37,319 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: Well, there's it turns into what do you rely on?

668
00:27:39,759 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 3: Right?

669
00:27:40,079 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 2: Okay?

670
00:27:40,599 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, And what I've what I found is that if

671
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,200
you rely on your strength, your you're like strength has limitations,

672
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,599
but there's really just no limitation on the way that

673
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:50,000
you think.

674
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, dude, I love that.

675
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 4: I've been saying that to people more and more because

676
00:27:55,039 --> 00:27:56,759
you said that a few episodes of History.

677
00:27:56,759 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: Reminder, if your life sucks, your thinking sucks.

678
00:27:59,519 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 1: If you fill like there's limits in your life, you're

679
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,759
thinking is what is the beginning of you overcoming those limitations.

680
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,960
It's kind of like the intro to this podcast. Yeah,

681
00:28:08,079 --> 00:28:11,440
the answer to every impossible task starts with the mindset

682
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,279
of if I had to, what would it take?

683
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 3: Praise the Lord.

684
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,799
Speaker 1: It starts with the mindset of, yes, that's where it starts. Yeah,

685
00:28:18,839 --> 00:28:20,839
it's not where it ends, but it's where it starts. Yeah,

686
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:21,720
that's just the beginning.

687
00:28:22,079 --> 00:28:24,039
Speaker 4: So we start Algae and we're gonna we're gonna speed

688
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,400
up here a little bit because I really there were

689
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,440
so many nuggets that I want people to take away, Like,

690
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,559
I hope you can hear what we're talking about, and

691
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,480
just like that it encourages you, inspires you, and like

692
00:28:34,519 --> 00:28:37,079
that you want to press on and keep in mind

693
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:38,839
what we always say. Like your mom told me that

694
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,559
she often thinks that God moved me and my wife

695
00:28:40,599 --> 00:28:42,799
to Texas just for your family, which I think is

696
00:28:42,799 --> 00:28:43,559
a really sweet thing.

697
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:44,759
Speaker 2: Spars have adopted you.

698
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, but like it's a sweet thing to say, but

699
00:28:47,319 --> 00:28:50,680
like they're really God orchestrate what we did. Like I

700
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,599
just want to point out it's not an accident that

701
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,599
a guy with a great message meets a guy who's

702
00:28:54,599 --> 00:28:56,319
a marketer. Like when you and I came together, I

703
00:28:56,359 --> 00:28:58,799
had a lot of skills that are helpful for it

704
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,720
is because a podcast. Just for those of you who

705
00:29:00,759 --> 00:29:04,440
are like I'm gonna start a podcast, just know, like there's.

706
00:29:03,799 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: Stuff that people ask me about the podcast. I'm like,

707
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,359
don't just talk to Nick about that.

708
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I will just say for a podcast, And

709
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,519
this is I'm not going to go deep into this.

710
00:29:11,759 --> 00:29:13,839
If you want to start a podcast, great, go for it.

711
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:14,359
Speaker 3: You should.

712
00:29:14,559 --> 00:29:16,599
Speaker 4: But don't start a podcast because you think you're gonna

713
00:29:16,599 --> 00:29:19,720
have thousands of followers because like you have to promote yourself.

714
00:29:19,759 --> 00:29:21,559
I'll just say that, Like you can get a lot

715
00:29:21,559 --> 00:29:24,480
of organic reach on things like YouTube, It's way hard.

716
00:29:24,519 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 2: It's hard for anybody, right, Obama started a podcast.

717
00:29:27,559 --> 00:29:29,519
Speaker 3: And quit, Thanks so a loud no bomba.

718
00:29:30,079 --> 00:29:33,039
Speaker 1: Just because you just because you have a big name

719
00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:35,039
doesn't mean you're gonna be great. And there's people who

720
00:29:35,079 --> 00:29:37,359
came from from nothing. But just because you have a

721
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,400
big name doesn't mean you're gonna have a big podcast.

722
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,000
I have at least the Navy Seal brand, which has

723
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,200
a good amount of value in it. And when we started,

724
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,039
it's not like a million people were listening to us.

725
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:48,559
Speaker 2: Yes, it's taken us.

726
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,119
Speaker 1: Five years to get to the point where we are

727
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,240
where you know, now we're a very legitimate sized podcast.

728
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, and even still like Joe Rogan and nobody, like

729
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,279
nobody out there is going like, oh wow, big dogs,

730
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,680
Like we're still We're paying our price, man, and we're

731
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,400
going to continue to. But I will say where we

732
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,720
are now is where I dreamed of being when we started,

733
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,119
And now that we're here, I'm like a dude, like,

734
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,279
we're just we're just getting.

735
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,039
Speaker 1: And that's I mean, it's a there's a great lesson

736
00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:14,480
in that. I feel like, obviously our content has progressed,

737
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,119
but even the stuff that we did very very early on,

738
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,960
we were extremely faithful we did what I knew was right,

739
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,599
and like we sewed great seed. That's why people can

740
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,119
get on this show now and go back to your

741
00:30:25,119 --> 00:30:28,319
original content like, man, this is still good. Yeah right,

742
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,440
I knew that's what it would take. It just takes years.

743
00:30:31,759 --> 00:30:33,519
Takes years to build something great.

744
00:30:34,079 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think when you say that, people will

745
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,799
hear them like, yeah, okay, but like so for me,

746
00:30:39,119 --> 00:30:41,759
so the first twenty episodes, for me, I was basically

747
00:30:41,839 --> 00:30:43,119
me getting coaching. If you want to know what our

748
00:30:43,119 --> 00:30:45,519
coaching sessions were, like, go listen to the early episodes

749
00:30:45,759 --> 00:30:47,839
because I would like listen to what Garrett would say

750
00:30:48,079 --> 00:30:49,440
and I would work it out and go okay, But

751
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,480
what about the person who's thinking this, you know who

752
00:30:51,519 --> 00:30:51,960
was thinking that?

753
00:30:52,039 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: It was me?

754
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 4: So so like I was, I was basically have a

755
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,759
friend yeah yeah, this guy question Yeah exactly, that was

756
00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:02,000
asking for a friend. Yeah, asking for a friend, but

757
00:31:02,079 --> 00:31:04,519
not really So like all the all the early value

758
00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:07,640
and this the way that this stood up was because

759
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,000
of what you brought. Now, really hear what Garrett said,

760
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,200
It takes years to build anything great. But like at

761
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,839
that point, you had a Navy seal, triedent the stuff

762
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,079
you were saying you already knew was true. You tested

763
00:31:18,079 --> 00:31:19,799
it out at a high level, and you could be

764
00:31:19,839 --> 00:31:21,480
mad at the world that they weren't listening, but that

765
00:31:21,519 --> 00:31:23,160
was not the attitude at all. You were like, I

766
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,039
have to pay my price. Now, flip the spotlight over

767
00:31:26,079 --> 00:31:28,079
to my side of the table. So our first guest

768
00:31:28,079 --> 00:31:31,279
on episode nineteen was Steve Weatherford, and I'm well.

769
00:31:31,079 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: Just let me let me pause on that really quick

770
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,960
because and you mentioned mentioned it the message in the

771
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,359
marketer and you're a lot more than just a marketer now.

772
00:31:39,359 --> 00:31:41,680
But that was the beginning of this, and I told

773
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,720
you in the beginning, this was my thought process around

774
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,599
like I wanted to have a podcast. I want people

775
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,000
to hear what I have to say, not because it

776
00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:53,200
means anything to me, because I'm trying to help people. Yeah,

777
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,480
but my thought process has always been like this is

778
00:31:55,559 --> 00:31:58,759
mighty men. Never once at mighty men in you know,

779
00:31:59,039 --> 00:32:01,400
however seven years or whatever long it's been, ever once

780
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:01,960
it might have been.

781
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,319
Speaker 2: Have I got up there and I said, make sure

782
00:32:03,359 --> 00:32:05,720
you invite your friends. Not once. I've not said at

783
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,480
one time, go invite your friends.

784
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: What I knew was is if you so great seed,

785
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,079
you will reap a harvest right, develop yourself, develop the message,

786
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:17,759
and develop a message that's so great that it demands

787
00:32:17,759 --> 00:32:20,359
an audience. What most people do is they demand an

788
00:32:20,359 --> 00:32:22,079
audience and then they try to go and prepare their

789
00:32:22,079 --> 00:32:25,759
message right. And so what I like, truly well, the

790
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,200
origin of this podcast is a marketer finding me.

791
00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:33,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean in what you just said there, man,

792
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,680
is such a trust in principles and in trust in

793
00:32:35,759 --> 00:32:39,200
God's word because in the first twenty episodes, you know,

794
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,759
it is me getting coached. Our first guest was Steve Weatherford.

795
00:32:41,759 --> 00:32:44,880
Like I said on episode nineteen where I was Steve, Yeah,

796
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,680
I love Steve. Where I was at is I was

797
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,240
sitting there and going like I was like, why am

798
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,119
I in this room? That's literally like I felt so

799
00:32:50,319 --> 00:32:52,759
like you talk about in securities and comparing myself, I'm like,

800
00:32:52,759 --> 00:32:54,759
I'm with a Navy seal and a Super Bowl champion

801
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,440
and like here I am. Yeah, Like, what would you

802
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,200
even put as your moniker? Because you know, if you

803
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,839
want to start a podcast, you know it's really hard.

804
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,440
You got to sum yourself up in a way that

805
00:33:03,799 --> 00:33:06,440
somebody would actually want to listen to you. Uh oh,

806
00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:09,559
you know, any insecurities you have. Any lack of identity

807
00:33:09,599 --> 00:33:11,960
will come flying out in that because I'm like, what,

808
00:33:12,359 --> 00:33:14,880
I'm a marketer, I'm a guy who's married, is like,

809
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:15,559
how do I.

810
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: Think it's one of the hardest things in the world

811
00:33:17,119 --> 00:33:19,440
is people learning how to tell their story. Yeah right,

812
00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:21,559
I know Navy seals who can't tell their story right,

813
00:33:21,599 --> 00:33:23,720
and that I'm certainly not hitting on my peers. I'm

814
00:33:23,799 --> 00:33:26,400
using that as these are people that the world would validate,

815
00:33:26,599 --> 00:33:28,160
but they don't know how to tell their message.

816
00:33:28,279 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard to do now, I can tell you.

817
00:33:30,519 --> 00:33:31,720
So that was four and a half years ago with

818
00:33:31,759 --> 00:33:34,119
you and Steve. I've been in rooms with all sorts

819
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,400
of Hall of Fame baseball players. We got John Bavere's

820
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,200
sat across from us. That thought process of what am

821
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,799
I doing here? Or literally how do I compare? Never

822
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,720
enters my mind anymore, ever, And so I'm saying that

823
00:33:44,759 --> 00:33:47,160
to encourage people because I think comparison. They say comparison

824
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,480
is the thief of joy. I think it's also the

825
00:33:48,519 --> 00:33:51,440
thief of destiny because so often people will compare themselves

826
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:52,960
to somebody else and say, well, I want what that

827
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,559
guy has, and so they'll start trying to do what

828
00:33:54,599 --> 00:33:55,960
they think that person is doing.

829
00:33:56,039 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: It's what Pastor Keith said, you have a unique fingerprint

830
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,920
to leave you unique print on the world that no

831
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,640
one else can leave. If you try to be somebody else,

832
00:34:03,839 --> 00:34:06,960
you're not you, right, And what an identity does is identity.

833
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,800
Like there are doors that only you can open, correct, right,

834
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,960
that's what identity of the One of the things that

835
00:34:12,119 --> 00:34:15,400
identity does is it's access. It's like your driver's license

836
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,239
gives you access, your passport gives you access. Who you

837
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,519
are is access to certain things. Until you become who

838
00:34:21,559 --> 00:34:23,639
you're called to be. There's doors that will never open

839
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:23,880
for you.

840
00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

841
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 4: Now on, So we're sitting there and we're we're twenty.

842
00:34:27,519 --> 00:34:29,079
You know, that's how I felt at nineteen. And I'm

843
00:34:29,079 --> 00:34:30,639
saying that to be encouragement because that was on my

844
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:31,639
four and a half years ago.

845
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:32,039
Speaker 2: Gee.

846
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,039
Speaker 4: And you know that may sound like a long time

847
00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:36,039
or a short time. A lot can happen, a lot

848
00:34:36,119 --> 00:34:38,400
can change. You have no idea what God can do.

849
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,079
And that's that's the encouragement I hope to give to everybody. Now,

850
00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:43,599
what I'll say is in the background of everything that

851
00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:46,519
we do, we always had mighty men gain like going on.

852
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,360
So the first one hundred episodes, like I was more

853
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,360
of a punchline. I was like a lot more of

854
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,639
a punchline. And I will say, you know, your humor

855
00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:56,320
has really developed more than beyond beyond just insulting me,

856
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,280
because there was a few years where like your your

857
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,000
safe place was just like if I crack at your

858
00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:01,480
about Nick, Everyone's gonna laugh.

859
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:02,199
Speaker 2: Now.

860
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 4: The reason I'm sharing this is because in Mightyment, like

861
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,360
I said, we compete in those games. It's a very

862
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,079
like manly environment and for sure you kind of you know,

863
00:35:11,199 --> 00:35:13,599
everybody knows how you're perceived. And what was going on

864
00:35:13,639 --> 00:35:15,679
in Mightument was that people would listen to the podcast

865
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,400
You're bagging on me all the time, so everybody else

866
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,239
was like I was kind of like they would laugh

867
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,880
at me as well. Nothing got a loud or laugh.

868
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,000
My dad enjoyed it so much, by the way, but

869
00:35:24,039 --> 00:35:26,159
nothing got a loud or laughed than you insulting me.

870
00:35:26,199 --> 00:35:27,599
And it was always kind of like, oh, here comes

871
00:35:27,639 --> 00:35:30,679
this bit again, and it never failed. It was always

872
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,280
funny to everybody, which you know, was always amazing to

873
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,719
me that people still thought it was that fait.

874
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 3: It was.

875
00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:38,599
Speaker 1: It was the beginning of me developing you. So just

876
00:35:38,599 --> 00:35:40,440
so you know, I know that right it was the

877
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,960
beginning of that. I was beating you up in front

878
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,280
of everyone, But what I was also doing was making

879
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:46,360
sure everyone knew who you were.

880
00:35:46,599 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 4: Right now, listen, but hear what you said about you

881
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,679
knew that if you sowed good enough seed, that that

882
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,679
you would reap the harvest, and that you didn't. You

883
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,199
didn't demand an audience. You just said I'm gonna put

884
00:35:57,199 --> 00:35:58,800
the message out there and the right people will find it.

885
00:35:59,079 --> 00:36:01,599
So my attitude this time, but I'm showing I'm kind

886
00:36:01,639 --> 00:36:05,920
of contrasting your sense of identity with my lack of identity.

887
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,719
I'm sitting there at that time talking and I'm going, gee,

888
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,559
I don't understand this, Like I saw something in myself

889
00:36:12,039 --> 00:36:14,039
of you know, like I'm like, I can do whatever.

890
00:36:14,039 --> 00:36:16,320
I can speak multiple languages, I can play multiple instruments.

891
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,440
I can you know, I have these many businesses and

892
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,280
they're doing well and blah blah blah. So I'm what

893
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,800
am I doing? I'm measuring myself by all the outsides

894
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,480
and going like these guys don't see it, what's wrong

895
00:36:25,519 --> 00:36:27,639
with them? I should be mad at the world because

896
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,760
like I didn't like being the punchline. And I'm like,

897
00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:31,400
and I remember I would come to you by and

898
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,800
I would say that to you, And what you would

899
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,800
tell me is you gave me this thought process you said.

900
00:36:36,159 --> 00:36:37,760
They just don't see it. Yet you got to keep going.

901
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,599
You've got to be so good they can't ignore you.

902
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,159
Now I I I would hear that and.

903
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 1: Like, okay, people you know, so that that's a line

904
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,960
or a phrase like so good they can't ignore you.

905
00:36:49,159 --> 00:36:50,880
It's like something you'll see in a Nike commercial.

906
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

907
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,039
Speaker 1: And there's also people that like, if you're I don't

908
00:36:55,039 --> 00:36:59,239
even want to say, like you know, spiritually sensitive, but

909
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,679
that's an added that might all start to rub some

910
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,760
people wrong, like be so good they can't ignore you.

911
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,599
But let me tell you what is right in that

912
00:37:05,639 --> 00:37:08,920
way of thinking, being so good they can't ignore you

913
00:37:09,079 --> 00:37:11,719
is a thought process that that's say, Okay, if you're

914
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,880
saying be so good they can't ignore you, what you

915
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,880
are saying is there is a point where the work

916
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,679
that you have done must be must be validated. That's

917
00:37:19,679 --> 00:37:21,880
what you're saying when you say that. You're not saying

918
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,800
like everyone's mean and they're not giving me a chance.

919
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,400
What you're saying is be so good they can't ignore you.

920
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,239
It means I can be better so and if I

921
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,159
keep going, they will see me, right. And that's what

922
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,079
most people are searching for validation, And that's why I'm

923
00:37:36,159 --> 00:37:38,280
quick to not give that to the people that I

924
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,719
work with. I don't want you to feel like I've

925
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,239
validated you, because that's you searching the wrong thing. And

926
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,639
it's what everyone who doesn't have an identity is doing.

927
00:37:46,679 --> 00:37:50,119
They're seeking validation, right. They're trying to get the outside

928
00:37:50,159 --> 00:37:52,480
to tell them who they are. What I'm trying to

929
00:37:52,519 --> 00:37:54,760
do is what the Oracle did with Neo. It's what

930
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,679
Morphius did with Neo. I'm going to help you come

931
00:37:57,679 --> 00:38:00,440
to the place where you make the decision I know

932
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,679
who I am because once the Oracle's gone and Morpheus

933
00:38:03,679 --> 00:38:06,679
gone is gone. Once Morpheus has been captured, Neil comes

934
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,360
to the epiphany I know who I am.

935
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,199
Speaker 2: I know. At the same moment, he says, I know

936
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,559
who I am, and I know what I'm supposed to do.

937
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,039
Speaker 3: Man, that that is deeply rich.

938
00:38:17,079 --> 00:38:18,559
Speaker 4: Gee a matter of fact, I think we should go deeper

939
00:38:18,559 --> 00:38:21,159
into that in a very soon podcast.

940
00:38:21,679 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 3: But I will just tell you so, just because this is.

941
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 4: An encouragement for I want to, Like I said, I

942
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,679
always want to be an encouragement to anybody I can the.

943
00:38:28,639 --> 00:38:29,079
Speaker 3: Way I would.

944
00:38:29,119 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 4: So Garret would tell me that, like he would be like,

945
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,800
they just don't see it, like, and I would be frustrated,

946
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,559
right because you know, I didn't realize my own identity

947
00:38:36,599 --> 00:38:39,679
was going to be getting developed where I would kind

948
00:38:39,679 --> 00:38:41,800
of logically encourage myself as I'd go, Dude, I'm sad

949
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:42,840
across from a Navy seal.

950
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 3: I'm never gonna have a tried dent.

951
00:38:44,039 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 4: Like you know that geriatric seals don't exist, right, which

952
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:47,119
is what I would be.

953
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 2: And you can buy one at the store for a

954
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:50,199
few dollars.

955
00:38:51,079 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 4: I'm not even gonna Yeah that would I would, I

956
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,039
would be, yeah, that's just embarrassing. Anyways, I don't, like,

957
00:38:57,039 --> 00:38:58,599
I don't know that I was actually thinking about this.

958
00:38:58,679 --> 00:39:01,159
I think I'm so anti. I don't think I'll ever

959
00:39:01,199 --> 00:39:03,159
own a piece of seal memorabilia, Like I don't even

960
00:39:03,159 --> 00:39:04,920
think I'll ever have a shirt with the crest on it,

961
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,239
because I'm like, so never want to be the guy

962
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:08,840
trying to pretend I've rubbed.

963
00:39:08,559 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 2: Off my detest of phoniness on.

964
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,079
Speaker 3: You, Oh big time, dude.

965
00:39:13,079 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 4: I think I authenticity is something I've always valued and

966
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,840
I have so much regard because it's a similar because

967
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,440
it's a similar thread to identity.

968
00:39:21,679 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's yeah big why.

969
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,679
Speaker 1: It always makes my daughter laugh, I mean my wife

970
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,119
laugh because Grace was just asked me, Daddy, what are

971
00:39:29,159 --> 00:39:30,360
you going to be for Halloween this year?

972
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 2: Like, I don't.

973
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,119
Speaker 4: I'm not dressing up as anything. I don't pretend. I

974
00:39:35,159 --> 00:39:37,119
don't have to get an inture for that. That's wonderful.

975
00:39:37,519 --> 00:39:39,400
But so the way I would encourage myself and what

976
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,239
I would encourage anybody out there that's going like, yeah,

977
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:42,559
I feel like that. I feel like I see some

978
00:39:42,639 --> 00:39:44,920
things in me. There's a price to be paid, and

979
00:39:45,039 --> 00:39:47,760
here's here's the caveat. You don't get to determine the

980
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,000
price or how long it takes. And that's what I

981
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,119
would encourage myself. I'd like, I'm just in price paying,

982
00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:53,760
Like I've just got a price to pay. Because what

983
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,480
I would remind myself, I'm like, dude, I'm sad across

984
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,599
from a guy who paid a price for six years

985
00:39:57,599 --> 00:39:59,559
in the seal teams. That's greater than anything I'll ever

986
00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:01,440
have to pay. I'm never going to think I'm never

987
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:02,840
going to get beat down. At least I don't think

988
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,239
who knows what's going to happen in the future. I

989
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,239
don't believe that I would face a beat down the

990
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,639
way that you did to be formed into who you

991
00:40:09,679 --> 00:40:12,039
are in such an intense period of time. You often

992
00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:13,880
say you went through twenty five years of development in

993
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,039
six years in the Seal teams. What a blessing to

994
00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:18,960
have hyper growth mode? Also, what a pain.

995
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,559
Speaker 2: When you're going through struggle. Just have that attitude about it.

996
00:40:21,559 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: It's what I knew it was for me at the time,

997
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,000
and it's reframed every struggle that I go through in

998
00:40:26,039 --> 00:40:29,000
my life since right I went through there were periods

999
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,559
a six month long, year long period that it was.

1000
00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 2: Just brutally intense.

1001
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,199
Speaker 1: Every day was misery, and what came out the other

1002
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,039
side was a way greater version of me.

1003
00:40:38,199 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so all head kind of towards the home

1004
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,199
stretch here, Gee, just because we as we've progressed, there's

1005
00:40:45,199 --> 00:40:47,000
been so many things that have changed. But I think

1006
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,280
what happened a lot from the beginning stages too, just

1007
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,639
in my own journey of us going is I would

1008
00:40:52,679 --> 00:40:54,360
start to do a lot of the things that you

1009
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,119
had died seen you do. I'd start to For people

1010
00:40:57,119 --> 00:40:59,159
out there listening, I hope you start to go, you

1011
00:40:59,199 --> 00:41:00,519
know what, I'm going to do some of the things

1012
00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:02,360
that like have been stirring in me that whether it's

1013
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,960
this podcast or books or reading the Word of God,

1014
00:41:05,039 --> 00:41:07,559
which I hope is the ladder more than anything that

1015
00:41:07,559 --> 00:41:09,119
you reading the Word of God, you go, you know what,

1016
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,039
I'm going to start stepping out and doing this because

1017
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,920
you know, I always I've referenced that Mighty Man kind

1018
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,880
of runs parallel to everything we do because it's such

1019
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,280
a regular thing in our life. We're there every Saturday,

1020
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,400
every camping trip in April, you and I are going

1021
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:22,000
to be there, Like.

1022
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,159
Speaker 2: I mean, think about that.

1023
00:41:23,199 --> 00:41:26,199
Speaker 1: For the last five years, we've recorded an episode every week,

1024
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,280
except for you know, like one or two weeks a

1025
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,039
year where we're on vacation or something and we have

1026
00:41:30,039 --> 00:41:32,119
to record ahead of time. Yeah, and for Mighty Men,

1027
00:41:32,159 --> 00:41:33,719
we're there forty nine weeks a year.

1028
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:34,079
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1029
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,159
Speaker 4: These are these staples in our life that we can

1030
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,039
kind of like, oh yeah, And I think that's such

1031
00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:39,679
a wonderful thing because I think a lot of people

1032
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,239
don't have those, so they don't really they lose track

1033
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,519
of year's. So, you know, April twenty twenty third, I'm

1034
00:41:46,639 --> 00:41:48,559
leading a group that was bigger than the group that

1035
00:41:48,639 --> 00:41:51,000
I first went to camp with, and I had to

1036
00:41:51,039 --> 00:41:52,800
do so many of what I'd seen you do. And

1037
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,159
I remember I spoke to I was like, this camp

1038
00:41:54,199 --> 00:41:54,519
was one.

1039
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: The first camp you came to. There was like seventy

1040
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,079
of us, not even that, okay, yeah, sixty of us?

1041
00:41:59,119 --> 00:42:01,400
Yeah right, and so you're wht and me lead that, Yeah, and.

1042
00:42:01,679 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 3: You let it like an absolute drill sergeant as well.

1043
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 2: I was preparing you all.

1044
00:42:05,519 --> 00:42:07,639
Speaker 3: I just realized that a lot of a lot of.

1045
00:42:07,679 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 2: Those sixty are still around. Yeah. Right.

1046
00:42:10,119 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 1: Fast forward to twenty twenty three, Nicks group inside the

1047
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,960
bigger group. Knicks group inside the bigger group is the

1048
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,000
same size as what.

1049
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,559
Speaker 2: That group was. Yeah. Yeah.

1050
00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:21,679
Speaker 4: So now I'm like, I've basically got to do what

1051
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,480
I've I've got to do. I've Garrett for this proverbially,

1052
00:42:25,599 --> 00:42:27,039
that's what I am. Yeah, So what do you think

1053
00:42:27,079 --> 00:42:29,639
I did? I just did exactly what I'd seen done.

1054
00:42:29,679 --> 00:42:32,039
And this is what I think is such an unlocked man.

1055
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,280
Whether you're around a group of great people or not,

1056
00:42:34,639 --> 00:42:36,360
you have at least, at the very least, you have

1057
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,880
this podcast. I would hope that like every man would

1058
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,599
have a group of men he can run with. At

1059
00:42:40,599 --> 00:42:42,440
the very least, you need to be plugged into a church.

1060
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,679
There's so much wisdom in just doing what you've seen done.

1061
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,360
And it's amazing how much more revelation comes whenever you

1062
00:42:49,599 --> 00:42:52,679
just do, Like there's revelation on the other side of obedience.

1063
00:42:53,079 --> 00:42:55,360
And I think we missed this so often because we

1064
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,440
want to see it proven before we'll take the step.

1065
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,719
So I now get this chance where i'mleading these guys,

1066
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:00,960
and I, well, what am I going to do? I'm

1067
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,280
gonna do exactly right style you do. So I you know,

1068
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,400
we had all I mean, it would be a waste

1069
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:06,920
of time to share it because for most these people

1070
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,039
that are listening are never going to come to a

1071
00:43:08,119 --> 00:43:11,800
monument camp. But but when I did that, the why

1072
00:43:12,039 --> 00:43:15,039
kicked in so much stronger, And so now I'm starting

1073
00:43:15,039 --> 00:43:17,880
to go like, Okay, now what's happening in me is

1074
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,599
I'm starting to change the way I see myself. I'm

1075
00:43:20,599 --> 00:43:22,760
starting to understand like I'm here to serve, so like

1076
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,000
that camp was nothing about me. It was everything to

1077
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,760
do with the people that I'm there to serve. And

1078
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,159
guess what happens you start doing some growing fast forward

1079
00:43:30,159 --> 00:43:32,800
to another year. We do the athlon every year, which is, uh,

1080
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,280
you want to be the biggest.

1081
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: We do a lot of fun physical activity. The athlon

1082
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,239
is the event I first designed it as this is

1083
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,239
the event I would want to compete in, and it

1084
00:43:42,599 --> 00:43:44,840
really and it is my version of.

1085
00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 2: Who's the best athlete here? Right right?

1086
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: And it's a test of strength and endurance because in

1087
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,119
the I mean it's the same way that CrossFit was

1088
00:43:52,119 --> 00:43:54,280
born out of the Seal teams, which was you can't

1089
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:55,119
just be strong.

1090
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 2: You have to have cardio as well, right right, You can't.

1091
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: You can't just be a runner, you can't just be

1092
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,599
a powerlifter. You have to be right It's this true

1093
00:44:01,679 --> 00:44:05,239
like warrior physicality, and that's what the athlon is. I

1094
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,480
make these guys. I do a huge qualifier just to

1095
00:44:08,519 --> 00:44:10,239
get down to it. But all these guys have a

1096
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,920
great cardio and they have the strength to chop through

1097
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,159
a log, run with that log, swim with that log.

1098
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:16,559
Speaker 2: So it's a great event.

1099
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 3: And it's it is a beatdown is what it is.

1100
00:44:18,679 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 4: So there's hundreds of guys that got to this championship

1101
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,039
and it always gets narrowed down the final four, and

1102
00:44:23,159 --> 00:44:24,559
everybody watches the final four.

1103
00:44:24,679 --> 00:44:28,159
Speaker 1: So every year, there's nothing like there's nothing like doing

1104
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,760
you know, even being in a grit like a big stadium.

1105
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,079
There's nothing like being surrounded by a few hundred of

1106
00:44:33,079 --> 00:44:36,079
your peers watching you and it's you versus the man

1107
00:44:36,159 --> 00:44:37,599
next to you. It's a special experience.

1108
00:44:37,639 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 3: It is a special experience.

1109
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,199
Speaker 4: And so every year I tried to get into that

1110
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,719
and because you you hammered me about I had a

1111
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,320
European soccer player's body. I can't remember how many times

1112
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,840
I've heard that said to you from you. And it's

1113
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,039
funny because like even in listening to the old episodes,

1114
00:44:52,079 --> 00:44:54,119
if I see video, I'm like, oh my gosh, it

1115
00:44:54,119 --> 00:44:55,119
looks like I'm looking at a.

1116
00:44:55,039 --> 00:44:57,639
Speaker 2: Different dear, your arms looked like my ankles back then.

1117
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:02,039
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you, this is so it is.

1118
00:45:02,079 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 4: So you told me that like you need to put

1119
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,840
on muscle because you need to give men something to respect,

1120
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,000
and I was like, that's stupid. Muscle doesn't make you respectable.

1121
00:45:09,039 --> 00:45:12,760
Blah blah blah. Like I said, well, I didn't. I

1122
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,079
you know, I just knew a lot of people who

1123
00:45:14,119 --> 00:45:16,320
were dumb that had a lot of muscle. Honestly, that

1124
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:17,559
that was the way I thought. I was like, it

1125
00:45:17,559 --> 00:45:20,360
certainly doesn't mean that you're you're followable, but like what

1126
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,920
I missed was that it also tells people that you're

1127
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,800
strong and strength. You know, we all like to talk. Well,

1128
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,440
I would want to help you on a debate. You

1129
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,000
know what, sometimes someone's punched you in the face.

1130
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,159
Speaker 2: There's no debate. Plato thought a little bit different.

1131
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,079
Speaker 4: Exactly, but but I'm just giving a little bit of

1132
00:45:34,119 --> 00:45:36,400
where my thought process was at. So go to the athlon.

1133
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,480
It's it's now twenty twenty fours a couple of years ago,

1134
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,519
and so I compete every year, and like what would

1135
00:45:41,559 --> 00:45:42,920
kill me is I wouldn't get past the pull ups

1136
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,599
or whatever. I'd fail At Like some point I was like,

1137
00:45:44,679 --> 00:45:47,079
I'm gonna get it. That year was was I made

1138
00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:48,960
to the finals of the athlon. I it was my

1139
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,159
second time ever chopping with my life, and that showed

1140
00:45:51,199 --> 00:45:53,079
up big time. I finished fourth out of out of

1141
00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:54,679
the final four. So I just want to be very clear,

1142
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,320
this was not like I want it all. I lost

1143
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:00,000
to a ninja warrior, which is, you know, I I

1144
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,880
whatever I lost. So but what changed was I realized

1145
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,960
that the way my men perceived me had like it

1146
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,440
was a real unlock for me. Like the way my

1147
00:46:08,519 --> 00:46:12,119
men perceived me changed massively, and I could still care

1148
00:46:12,199 --> 00:46:14,840
less about like the physicality. I was not like, oh,

1149
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,360
like whatever, I wouldn't put it on my list of accomplishments.

1150
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,159
But what I realized was that it mattered to open

1151
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,480
up doors, to be able to reach people. And that's

1152
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,840
something I care deeply about. And so I also got

1153
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,400
more of a vision for what a man should be.

1154
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,119
And as I've developed more of a vision for what

1155
00:46:30,159 --> 00:46:31,639
a man should be, I'm like, hang on a minute,

1156
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,360
Like I listened to it actually today and today's Basic

1157
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,280
Discipline training video you talk about David's final address to

1158
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,920
his son says be strong, act like man, oh man,

1159
00:46:41,079 --> 00:46:43,880
or act like a man like this is in the Bible.

1160
00:46:44,199 --> 00:46:46,719
So now I can't just go, well, that's stupid. I'm like,

1161
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,639
hang on a minute, Do I believe that God made

1162
00:46:48,639 --> 00:46:50,639
men to be strong? Or do I believe that, like

1163
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,199
I can do some modern metro version of it, and

1164
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:54,360
just that you're you're.

1165
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 2: A strong person. You're going to be strong physically correct.

1166
00:46:56,559 --> 00:46:59,119
Speaker 1: And that doesn't mean you know, you can be you

1167
00:46:59,159 --> 00:47:01,440
can have a triathlat body, which doesn't And I'm not

1168
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,239
beating up triathletes, but these guys don't necessarily like look

1169
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,800
super strong. They are very strong, very strong, right, so

1170
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,880
be strong. That has to show up in your physicality

1171
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:10,400
in some way.

1172
00:47:10,599 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I want to head to the finish surgy.

1173
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,159
Speaker 4: But like that was a that was a real moment

1174
00:47:16,199 --> 00:47:18,360
for me because there was so much of the intensity

1175
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,360
like this, Like I thought to myself, Man, if I

1176
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,360
could just make like my thinking before was like, if

1177
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:23,719
I could just make it to the final four of

1178
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,639
this thing, like that would mean something like I'd become

1179
00:47:26,679 --> 00:47:28,840
who I thought I like. I wanted other people to

1180
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,639
see who I thought I was, and so getting into that,

1181
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,840
I realized that their their view of me changed and

1182
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,079
it was worthwhile to pay that price. What was so

1183
00:47:38,119 --> 00:47:39,960
funny was like I didn't change the way I felt

1184
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,480
by the time I actually got to the point where

1185
00:47:41,519 --> 00:47:44,239
I could do that physically, I didn't need it for

1186
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,639
me anymore. I wanted it one hundred percent to be

1187
00:47:46,679 --> 00:47:49,199
a blessing to those guys. Fast forward two years to

1188
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,559
this camp. Just now, like we compete as tribes and

1189
00:47:51,639 --> 00:47:53,800
every year your brother in law tribe had won for

1190
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:54,719
six years straight.

1191
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 2: My brother in law is a physical specimen.

1192
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's recruited quite a few physical specimens to he has.

1193
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,039
Speaker 4: And so every year it was like, let's beat these guys.

1194
00:48:03,079 --> 00:48:05,599
Let's beat these guys. And we got real close two

1195
00:48:05,639 --> 00:48:08,559
years ago and we but we lost at the end.

1196
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 3: Well, this year, we actually beat them.

1197
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 4: Finally, we finally beat them, so we we dethrowned them,

1198
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,920
and it was this wonderful thing, and we had this moment.

1199
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 3: Man.

1200
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 4: So we get up on stage and everybody wanted somebody

1201
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,000
to beat them because like it gets the time, Yeah,

1202
00:48:21,119 --> 00:48:23,159
it gets annoying and seeing the same people win. So

1203
00:48:23,159 --> 00:48:25,360
our tribe wins, which was awesome. It was like I

1204
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:26,599
could go into that, but it would I think it

1205
00:48:26,599 --> 00:48:28,119
would be more meaningful for the people in our group

1206
00:48:28,159 --> 00:48:29,679
than it would for everybody listening.

1207
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,079
Speaker 3: But we had this moment.

1208
00:48:31,159 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 4: And the reason I'm sharing this is because think back

1209
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,440
where I was before. I was like, these people don't

1210
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,760
see it, like blah blah, and I'm like angry. Well,

1211
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,400
we're on stage and everybody, guys are so honoring. So

1212
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,000
I just want to beat This is them honoring, This

1213
00:48:41,039 --> 00:48:43,920
is not me deserving this. But like everybody's pumped because

1214
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,400
like you announced that I'm the winner. I go up

1215
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,639
on stage to say something that our tribe was the winner,

1216
00:48:47,679 --> 00:48:48,840
and I get to go up and speak I'm the

1217
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,679
leader of the tribe. And so everybody like is cheering

1218
00:48:51,679 --> 00:48:53,800
and there going nick nick, and like they're chanting just

1219
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,440
because it's like that's what we do. It's a bunch

1220
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,039
of men, like we're all we're all like a lot

1221
00:48:57,079 --> 00:48:59,360
of hollering. Yeah, it's a lot of hight. And I remember,

1222
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,119
like I looked at you and I just kind of

1223
00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:02,719
smiled because I was just like, Okay, come on, guys,

1224
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,599
stop Like I wanted to get into it to say

1225
00:49:04,639 --> 00:49:05,880
what I wanted to say, because what I wanted to

1226
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,320
say was I wanted to honor my brother Josh, who's

1227
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:09,800
your brother in law, is one of my best friends

1228
00:49:10,159 --> 00:49:12,480
because he's taught me so much about what it is to.

1229
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 2: Be a leader.

1230
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 4: And it was afterwards I sat there and I thought,

1231
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,400
I was like, you know what, me, when I showed

1232
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,639
up here, not one person would have picked me. There

1233
00:49:19,679 --> 00:49:21,519
was no one, Like I said first ever Warrior Games.

1234
00:49:21,519 --> 00:49:23,400
I didn't even take part because I was too scared

1235
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:24,719
of what it would have meant to lose, even though

1236
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,199
I would have never admitted that at the time.

1237
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 1: And you look a little bit more Texas now. You

1238
00:49:29,639 --> 00:49:31,880
looked pretty San Diego back then. Yeah, thank you for

1239
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:33,679
that commentary. That adds nothing to my store as you

1240
00:49:33,679 --> 00:49:35,920
were You're Texas at yeah razy yeah.

1241
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:41,199
Speaker 4: Anyways, So, but like I sat there and I had

1242
00:49:41,199 --> 00:49:43,840
this moment of realizing, I'm like, man, no one would

1243
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,039
have picked me to be like maybe not even to

1244
00:49:46,079 --> 00:49:48,599
stick around, let alone to be an influential person, to

1245
00:49:48,639 --> 00:49:51,440
be a leader in there. And but but God had

1246
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,280
a plan and continues to have a plan on my

1247
00:49:53,639 --> 00:49:55,519
for my life and has put his hand on me.

1248
00:49:56,079 --> 00:49:57,920
And so I got this moment that if you would

1249
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,599
have said to Nick five years ago, dude, you're gonna

1250
00:49:59,599 --> 00:50:00,800
be on the stage and all the money that are

1251
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,639
gonna be chanting your name, whatever, that would have meant

1252
00:50:03,639 --> 00:50:05,119
to me. I would have been like, man, that's what

1253
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,719
needs to happen, Like, yeah, that's the moment. And by

1254
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,000
the time it finally happened, the only thing I cared about. Truthfully,

1255
00:50:11,119 --> 00:50:14,000
the story of my life is not like man, look

1256
00:50:14,039 --> 00:50:15,840
at what this guy did. The story of my life

1257
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,360
is like God put his hand on me and said

1258
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,639
your mind. And when God says you're his like you said,

1259
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:21,280
you said.

1260
00:50:21,079 --> 00:50:21,519
Speaker 3: It so well.

1261
00:50:21,559 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 4: At the Begangie, you don't know who you are because

1262
00:50:23,519 --> 00:50:25,840
you don't know who your father is. When God has

1263
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,920
his hand on your life and you journey towards him

1264
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,039
and you begin to know him, you then begin to

1265
00:50:30,039 --> 00:50:32,039
know yourself. And by the time you get that moment,

1266
00:50:32,199 --> 00:50:34,079
if you get that moment whenever it comes, and it

1267
00:50:34,119 --> 00:50:37,199
will come, and you get to prove yourself. I didn't

1268
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,880
need anything that was like that was very honoring. I'm

1269
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,760
very humbled that those guys would do. I think they're

1270
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,360
very truly, I think they're very generous to do that.

1271
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:46,679
But I also know all I cared about in that

1272
00:50:46,679 --> 00:50:48,239
moment was I want to give honor to Josh and

1273
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,440
more importantly, I want to give honor to God because

1274
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,400
what I was hoping that every man would see would

1275
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,400
be that if you're willing to pay your price, if

1276
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,760
you're willing to seek after God, like you have no

1277
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:58,679
idea what he will do with your life, and you

1278
00:50:58,679 --> 00:51:01,000
have no idea what how much of a blessing it

1279
00:51:01,039 --> 00:51:02,960
can be to other people. It's a story of his

1280
00:51:03,079 --> 00:51:05,400
grace more than anything. And I just thought it was

1281
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,960
so funny that what's so funny about identity is when

1282
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,880
you don't have one, all you want is that external validation,

1283
00:51:11,159 --> 00:51:13,199
and when you do have one, by the time you

1284
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,000
get it, you no longer need it and all the

1285
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,679
only reason you care about it is because you hope

1286
00:51:16,679 --> 00:51:18,599
it opens people up to hear what you have to say,

1287
00:51:18,639 --> 00:51:20,000
and that's the point them to Jesus.

1288
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:23,679
Speaker 3: Thank you very much for listening.

1289
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,559
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1290
00:51:27,639 --> 00:51:29,920
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1291
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:30,519
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1292
00:51:30,559 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 3: We appreciate it all.

1293
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,360
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1295
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,159
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1296
00:51:40,159 --> 00:51:42,760
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1297
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,320
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1298
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,119
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1299
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Thank you again for listening. Go out there and think

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