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<v Speaker 1>In the world where fairways meet the airwaves, where Bertie's

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<v Speaker 1>and Banker collide. Welcome to the show that takes you

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<v Speaker 1>beyond the clubhouse and onto the green. There's balls and teas,

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<v Speaker 1>your passport to the golfing universe, where every swing tells

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<v Speaker 1>the story and every part has its punchline. Get ready

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<v Speaker 1>to step onto the large screens and dive into the

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<v Speaker 1>world of diveds, drives and delightful better.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, ladies and gentlemen, it is the one and

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<v Speaker 2>only Tony Town the Ball with a lot of player.

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<v Speaker 2>I am a classic men. As you know, it is

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<v Speaker 2>another Wednesday evening and men and man are so excited

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<v Speaker 2>to be here with you. Guys today it is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a heated, heated, heated show. So I hope

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<v Speaker 2>that your refrigerators are on and that you have some eyes,

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<v Speaker 2>because you will definitely need eyes cold glasses of water.

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<v Speaker 2>What we're about to do today is very epic, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be joined by a lady who does not need

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<v Speaker 2>any form of introduction. She has been doing golf all

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<v Speaker 2>her life and she'll be sharing a lot of tips

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<v Speaker 2>with us. She'll be letting us know what's happening in

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<v Speaker 2>her space. So ladies and gentlemen, if it's your first

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<v Speaker 2>time joining us today, please make sure that you are seated.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no disturbances because you don't want to miss anything.

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<v Speaker 2>And for those who have been following us from the

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<v Speaker 2>get go, I just want to say thank you, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for your ongoing support, and please bring more and

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<v Speaker 2>more other people to the show. So, ladies and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 2>as I said, let's go for two minutes break, get

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<v Speaker 2>yourself refreshed. Make sure that you've got a two little

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<v Speaker 2>jack of ice eyes cold water and put it there,

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<v Speaker 2>because once I start check into our guest today, you

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<v Speaker 2>will definitely understand why you'll be sweating. I'll be sweating,

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<v Speaker 2>but we'll be sweating because we're excited to get into

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation. So let's go for the two minutes, and

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<v Speaker 2>then when we'll come back, we'll get into the head

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<v Speaker 2>of things.

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<v Speaker 1>In the world where fairways meet the airwaves, where Bertie's

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<v Speaker 1>and Banker collide. Welcome to the show that takes you

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<v Speaker 1>beyond the clubhouse and onto the green. There's balls and

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<v Speaker 1>t's your passport to the golfing universe, where every swing

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<v Speaker 1>tells the story and every part has its punchline. Get

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<v Speaker 1>ready to step onto the large screens and dive into

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<v Speaker 1>the world of diveds, drives and delightful better.

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<v Speaker 2>Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for staying tuned. As you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it is the one and only Tony Tone the Magician.

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<v Speaker 2>There is only one magician when it comes to and

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<v Speaker 2>that is the Balls and Tease Megician. Listen, ladies and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the hardest podcast, as you know, when we

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<v Speaker 2>talk about God, we're talking about balls and teas. I

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<v Speaker 2>promised you an extremely extremely heated show. I promised you fire,

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<v Speaker 2>I promised you flames, and you will understand why. When

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<v Speaker 2>I introduced our guests for today, please allow me to

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<v Speaker 2>introduce none but the only Heidi Shannock. Hello, Heidi, good morning.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you do today?

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<v Speaker 3>Funny you, Tony?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh good, thank you. Heidi. You know I tried to

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<v Speaker 2>introduce you, but I think I was short of drum rolls.

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<v Speaker 2>I was short of an on call, you know. So

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps if you can reintroduce yourself and allow our guests

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<v Speaker 2>or our audiences to actually understand who Heidi is, how

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<v Speaker 2>the how you come across golf and what's happening in

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<v Speaker 2>your space at the moment.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So I am the lady captain of Lake Club Benoni.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been playing golf for nine years. I'm part of

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<v Speaker 3>the Exco committee at the club and I'm the league

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<v Speaker 3>captain as well for the ladies league at the club.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. So sure, how do you do all those tasks?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we we actually do it out of out of love.

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<v Speaker 3>And I only started playing golf nine years ago. I've

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<v Speaker 3>always been on the golf course. My parents were both

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<v Speaker 3>good golfers, but also captains of previous clubs. They were

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<v Speaker 3>both captains of Royal Oak, which then was called John

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<v Speaker 3>Foster Golf Club in Blackpan m h and I had

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<v Speaker 3>no interest in playing golf because we were there every

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<v Speaker 3>weekend and you know, when you're young, it's not so

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<v Speaker 3>much fun going with your appearance. Yeah, just such a nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>But then later in love, I met ma fiance who

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<v Speaker 3>is a great golfer. He's a one handicap is he's

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<v Speaker 3>an interprovincial player for Ikulini and he he got me

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<v Speaker 3>to golf and I have become mad about golf. I

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, it's quite interesting that you you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to play golf for the most of time, and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>your your your room. You came through and he swept

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<v Speaker 2>you off your feet and you're like, okay, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>into this now.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's that Romeo. He got a hole in one

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<v Speaker 3>at a golf club. And then when I was playing

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<v Speaker 3>on the same day, I was on the course and

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<v Speaker 3>when I came in on the eighteenth hole, he proposed

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<v Speaker 3>to me on the eighteenth green in front of the

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<v Speaker 3>whole club. So yes, that's what we got engaged.

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<v Speaker 2>At any point in time, you were to say that

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<v Speaker 2>you're leaving golf, Heidi, I will personally come and look

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<v Speaker 2>for you and say, no, ways, you are married to golf.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not definitely am I love the sport. I absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>loved the sport, and I just wish I started earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>But now let let let's talk about the only club,

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<v Speaker 2>all right. So, I mean you started playing nine years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>as you mentioned, and I just want to get an

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<v Speaker 2>understanding of your typical golf day at Benoni Lake Club.

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<v Speaker 2>How does it look.

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<v Speaker 3>Like Lake Club? BERNONI was my first club I ever joined,

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<v Speaker 3>and I've only been a member at Lake Club. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a down route lake club girl. Everybody there's family,

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<v Speaker 3>We absolutely love the club. So because I'm a lady captain,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm usually the early an hour before. There's quite a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of admin that I have to do. We organized

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<v Speaker 3>the ladies cards, I check their handicaps, so there is

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<v Speaker 3>a bit of edmin to do. We have a little

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<v Speaker 3>meeting with all the girls. We have a meeting at

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<v Speaker 3>a half for seven and then the tea box, the

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<v Speaker 3>tenth tea box is for ladies only from eight o'clock.

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<v Speaker 3>So we have a great group of girls. And we

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<v Speaker 3>have a competition every Saturday, so the every Saturday morning

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<v Speaker 3>early and if we go, you know, We've got a

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<v Speaker 3>routine every Saturday, and that's what we do.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh lovely, lovely. Now, I just want to find out,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you're if you're there every single Saturday,

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<v Speaker 2>and like you said, it's a competition, how many of

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<v Speaker 2>those have you actually got in the bag thus far?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this past weekend I won the one like funnel

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<v Speaker 3>and I think yes, and the weekend before I won

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<v Speaker 3>the medal finels, So yes, I've won quite a few competitions.

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<v Speaker 3>The medal final is the second time I've done it,

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<v Speaker 3>and I've also won the individual knockouts at the club,

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<v Speaker 3>so yeah, we all get a tune to win a competition.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not just a few so.

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<v Speaker 2>We have that's fantastic. Now, uh huh.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a competition every Saturday. It is organized before

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<v Speaker 3>on the Monday. Our ladies know what competition it is

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<v Speaker 3>on a Saturday, whether it's Better Ball, Metal, Full Ball

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<v Speaker 3>Alliance or RPS, so we mix it up to make

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<v Speaker 3>it exciting for the girls. And yeah, we have a

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<v Speaker 3>competition every Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. I just want to find out, I mean, as

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<v Speaker 2>everybody knows out there, whether golfers or non golfers, the

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<v Speaker 2>sport itself has been dominated by male figures for a

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<v Speaker 2>very very long time. Now, as a captain of the

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<v Speaker 2>Ladies Club, I just want to find out what challenges

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<v Speaker 2>have you come across thus far and what interesting things

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<v Speaker 2>have you seen thus far since you started playing golf

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<v Speaker 2>compared to back then before you started playing golf, to say, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>what has evolved in the space between males and females.

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<v Speaker 3>Traditionally at our club, the ladies were only allowed to

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<v Speaker 3>play in the afternoon, and that also worked out for juniors.

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<v Speaker 3>We have free golf for juniors on a Saturday afternoon,

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<v Speaker 3>so the ladies were only allowed to play in the afternoons,

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<v Speaker 3>and that it really didn't work out for us because

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<v Speaker 3>you could go you couldn't go for breakfast before golf

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<v Speaker 3>in the afternoon, but if you played in the morning,

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<v Speaker 3>you could actually go for luncheon off the afternoon, so

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<v Speaker 3>your afternoon was open. And I got to the club

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<v Speaker 3>one day and I said, right, we are moving our

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<v Speaker 3>ladies to the morning. And we didn't really have a

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<v Speaker 3>pushback from the club or the men. Yeah, but we

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<v Speaker 3>are much loved at the club. The ladies are loved

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<v Speaker 3>at the club, so it wasn't a problem. It was

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<v Speaker 3>just moving with the times and we moved forward to

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<v Speaker 3>the morning field. No.

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<v Speaker 2>And then this is something that I actually wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>ask earlier, and it's regarding the successes you've had on

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<v Speaker 2>the golf course. Right, of all the competitions that you

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<v Speaker 2>played in, what has been the most memorable for you?

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<v Speaker 3>Normally play the Eulogy Open and Close, which is held

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<v Speaker 3>at Glendower Golf Course, a beautiful golf course, well looked after,

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<v Speaker 3>top class golf course. I could say I could say

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<v Speaker 3>that's memorable playing in that competition. It's a two day competition.

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<v Speaker 3>I get to play with ladies from all over the

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<v Speaker 3>country and I get to meet the most interesting people.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's a memory. My big, big memory for

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<v Speaker 3>myself was playing Leopard Creek. I was very fortunate to

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<v Speaker 3>play there and it was a bucket list an absolute

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<v Speaker 3>bucket list course, mark the top, the top, top course

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<v Speaker 3>that I wanted to play was Leopard Creek.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, awesome, No, no, you know, I'm so fascinated in

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<v Speaker 2>understanding your golfing game and how you actually navigate on

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<v Speaker 2>the golf course, how you feel about your game, So

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<v Speaker 2>please part of my questions. But I'm just interested to understand.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you had a theme song or your

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<v Speaker 2>golf game had a theme song, what song do you

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<v Speaker 2>think you'd actually attached to it to say, Okay, now

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<v Speaker 2>this is this is me, this defines me, and this

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<v Speaker 2>defines my game.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, girls just want to have fun, because

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<v Speaker 3>that's exactly what it is. We all have fun on

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<v Speaker 3>a Saturday. Although we very competitive. I would say, girls

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<v Speaker 3>just want to have fun. You've got to see the

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<v Speaker 3>brass golf as well. Golf can be very tasting, but

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<v Speaker 3>that's what brings us back every Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then with that in mind, obviously having fun

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<v Speaker 2>comes with its own ups and downs, highlights and the

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<v Speaker 2>low fies. So in that moment while you're playing all

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<v Speaker 2>since you've been playing, what is the most hilarious bread

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<v Speaker 2>shot you've ever witnessed, Whether it's by yourself or anyone

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<v Speaker 2>that you're playing.

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<v Speaker 3>With, it's anybody that falls in the water when they're

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<v Speaker 3>trying to hit a ball on the side of the

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<v Speaker 3>damn it lake. I've seen it. People try. You say,

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<v Speaker 3>rather just take a drop, and they're like, no, I

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<v Speaker 3>can do it, I can do it, and then you

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<v Speaker 3>will see them fall in. So that's definitely. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 3>laugh a lot, laugh a lot about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what said, I mean in instances like that,

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<v Speaker 2>the first shot, someone falls in the water and then

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<v Speaker 2>you say, okay, drop the like no, no, no, no. As

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<v Speaker 2>I hit from the same spot again, they drop on

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<v Speaker 2>the same spot. Yeah, they go in the second time,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Now, if if you were to have any superpower

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<v Speaker 2>right on the golf course, what what do you think

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<v Speaker 2>You'll be shooting on the partner.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yes, that's the idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely. And then now let's talk about your preparation before

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<v Speaker 2>those things. But looking at your overall golf back right,

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<v Speaker 2>certain players would like to have a bottle of water,

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<v Speaker 2>power raid, some snacks, whatsoever before they get into the court.

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<v Speaker 2>What would you say your most ideal or your super

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<v Speaker 3>but I don't drink at all on the course.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when we look into your golf back, what

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<v Speaker 3>But that's my three wood. My three wood is my

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<v Speaker 3>And I persisted and persisted and persisted, and now I

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<v Speaker 3>thing that I've ever done. Is perfected that three wood.

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<v Speaker 3>I absolutely loved that club.

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<v Speaker 2>And then now now, now let's talk about the golf

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<v Speaker 2>a tire. I've had instances where people even tigglewoods is

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<v Speaker 2>he was playing the Masters, he would wear his red

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<v Speaker 2>T shirt. Do you have a particular act of clothing

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<v Speaker 2>to say these are my luky socks? Are likey shirt.

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<v Speaker 4>to play golf, and I actually didn't have a golf

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<v Speaker 4>shirt and I bought we bought shoots there so that

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<v Speaker 3>And it was probably the most expensive round because the

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<v Speaker 3>shirts were so expensive in the pro shop. And I

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely love that Skakuza shirt. It's bright pink and I

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<v Speaker 3>love it. But I have a lot of ladies' golf clothes,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of shirts. There's such a wide range of

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<v Speaker 3>golf clothing out the Marylyn from Marylyn's Clothing, She's got

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<v Speaker 3>a lovely, lovely shirts that all our ladies support too.

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<v Speaker 3>And I bought quite a few shirts. We have a

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<v Speaker 3>club shoots that we wear, league shirts that we wear,

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<v Speaker 3>so it is. I've got a lot. But that brack

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<v Speaker 3>pink shirt of money is that's my favorite. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 3>to par it too often, but that is my favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say that, and I would think that every

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<v Speaker 2>time you wore it, you you feel like nothing can

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<v Speaker 2>stop you. You you just hit your balls straight and

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<v Speaker 2>you continue to win. While we were in that pink

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<v Speaker 2>golf sh yes, I think so mm hmm, no, awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I just want to ask you something. Obviously, you

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<v Speaker 2>leave golf and there's all these challenges on the golf course.

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<v Speaker 2>I had someone saying to that, you know what, golf

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<v Speaker 2>is actually a spot for psychopaths because you go through

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<v Speaker 2>a tumil of emotions on the course and then once

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<v Speaker 2>you're done, it calls you again and says you can

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<v Speaker 2>actually do better than you did the previous eighteen. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I want to find out from you. For as much

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<v Speaker 2>as you've got strong points on the golf course, what

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<v Speaker 2>would you say is the most challenging aspect of your game?

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<v Speaker 3>I think bunker play. All bunkers are different. Some have

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<v Speaker 3>got a lot of sandings, some have no sanding. And

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<v Speaker 3>challenging for me is definitely bunker play. The more I

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<v Speaker 3>practice it on bunkers, the better I get, the more

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<v Speaker 3>confidence I have, the easier it is for me to

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<v Speaker 3>get out of a bunker. But if I play a

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<v Speaker 3>different course and I get stuck in a bunker, that

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<v Speaker 3>just I'll just lose small my confidence. So I think

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<v Speaker 3>practicing bunker player is very important, but it is a

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<v Speaker 3>challenge for me because you can get stuck in a.

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<v Speaker 2>Bunker and to be to be quite honest, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's a lot of people's nemesis because you do get

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<v Speaker 2>those pot bunkers where you literally can't get the ball

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<v Speaker 2>out no matter what you do, it just goes up

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<v Speaker 2>and beg it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've experienced that many a time. Maybe Botsy and

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<v Speaker 3>we play that course often and their bankers are quite difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know when you're talking about when you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about bunkers, and like you said, you play quite

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<v Speaker 2>a bit at So I want to bring in something

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<v Speaker 2>that I've heard from one of the pros. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, meal preparation is always ideal when approaching

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<v Speaker 2>certain courses, especially when you know that there's certain aspects

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<v Speaker 2>of your game that you're struggling with. So he said

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<v Speaker 2>he also has a problem with bankers, and when he

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<v Speaker 2>gets into a course where there's like four bankers around

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<v Speaker 2>the grillen, he knows it's going He automatically his mindseul

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<v Speaker 2>in you know what, it's going to be a tough day,

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<v Speaker 2>and he tries to escape those thoughts in any way possible. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>do you also find yourself in spaces where if someone says, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go let's go play at a what's it? And

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, oh my god, am I going back to

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<v Speaker 2>those bankers? What am I going to do? How should

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<v Speaker 2>I change my play? Do you go through those thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>or do you do you just take it and be like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, I will do my best when I

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<v Speaker 2>get there.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, not really, I love it botzy, so I'll normally

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<v Speaker 3>play well on that course, So the bankers, if I

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<v Speaker 3>get sucking a bankerd, is what it is, and I'll

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<v Speaker 3>just move on. I don't tend to dwell on what's

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<v Speaker 3>happened behind me, So if I've had a bad round

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<v Speaker 3>Eddie Botsey, I just move on.

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<v Speaker 2>And then now, now this is a golden key question

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<v Speaker 2>and your your fiance will forgive me for asking this question. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>If if you have any choice to play with anyone

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<v Speaker 2>in the world, who would you choose?

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<v Speaker 3>Who would I choose? Yeah, I'm a big I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>very very big Target fan, so I think they would

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<v Speaker 3>be on the top of my list. Definitely Target Woods.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm big, big fan Gary Player. And then my life father,

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<v Speaker 3>definitely my life for that. I would love to play

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<v Speaker 3>around with him again.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a great chopper. I'm following in his footsteps.

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<v Speaker 2>Lovely.

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<v Speaker 3>I've also got We've also got a bench on the

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<v Speaker 3>fifth hole at Lake Club for him. I can go

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<v Speaker 3>every Saturday and quickly have a quick chat with him.

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<v Speaker 3>We put that bench on that whole because that's where

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<v Speaker 3>he got his hourl in one. So yes, definitely my light.

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<v Speaker 2>Dad, Lovely, lovely. And then if if anything, I mean, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>if anything when it comes to to your to your

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<v Speaker 2>game of golf. Right, if you were to compare it

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<v Speaker 2>now to a movie, which movie would you say links

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<v Speaker 2>up or matches his persona?

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<v Speaker 3>the ugly. Yeah, I would say that, because one day

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<v Speaker 3>it's great, the next time it's bad, the next time

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<v Speaker 3>it's so. And I mean that's as such as golfers.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why we keep on coming back, because we know

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<v Speaker 3>we can do better than really played last time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, no, no, I get that. I get that. I

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<v Speaker 2>think I would go with I'd go with the metrics,

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<v Speaker 2>and there is no yeah, there is not actually go

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<v Speaker 2>with the tricks. Is that I lose quite a number

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<v Speaker 2>of balls on the golf course. So every time you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know in the metrics that there's those alias that

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<v Speaker 2>keep on popping out of noise. So that's basically what

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<v Speaker 2>happens my my balls. Just I would say, Okay, it

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<v Speaker 2>went straight to the fairway, and then when I get there,

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<v Speaker 2>there's nothing, look in the rough, I can't find it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when I turn on the on the next hold,

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<v Speaker 2>I would find it on the other fail.

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<v Speaker 3>So you need you need a great caddy to help

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<v Speaker 3>you find your balls.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right. And then another question that I have here,

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's quite a silly question, but I think it

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense. If your your golf clubs, right could say

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<v Speaker 2>anything about you, What do you think the first thing

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<v Speaker 2>that they would say about you? What do you think

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<v Speaker 2>it would be?

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<v Speaker 3>Probably shameless? Pollard is try and holds persistent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I mean, you know, you know what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>asking this question. I'm actually also reflecting on myself to say,

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<v Speaker 2>if my clubs were to say anything about me, jeez,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I really don't know. Maybe they would say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>he can go straight, but he decides to shank all

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<v Speaker 2>the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Well exactly, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a problem. And then HAIDI we've reached the half

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<v Speaker 2>way mark. Can we just go for too may break

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<v Speaker 2>and then when we get back we will get into

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<v Speaker 2>more questions. I'll make sure that they're not complex. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>try to keep them as fine and light as possible. Okay, super,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Commits. All right, gentlemen, welcome back to the second segment

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<v Speaker 2>of our show. This is the one and only Tony

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<v Speaker 2>Tone the Magician, and this is Bowls and Teas, the

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<v Speaker 2>only relevant podcast when it comes to golf talk. And

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<v Speaker 2>as you already know, ladies and gentlemen, I am joined

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<v Speaker 2>by Heidi Shannack who is the captain for Benna Lake

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<v Speaker 2>Club and this woman has been playing the best golf

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<v Speaker 2>of her life for the past nine years since she started.

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<v Speaker 3>Hidi, are you still with me, yes, Sir Anthony.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred Now, Hidi, as I said, second segment, it

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<v Speaker 2>gets quite intense. I'm going to be asking the most

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<v Speaker 2>complex questions and I'm going to put you on the

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<v Speaker 2>spot many times, right, so please bear with me. Why

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<v Speaker 2>not to be too hard, But it's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>an easy cruise for you because I know you know

419
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<v Speaker 2>your game. Right now, Heidi, here's my first question for

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<v Speaker 2>the second segment. Right, if you were to play, or

421
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<v Speaker 2>if you were to choose to play at any costs

422
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<v Speaker 2>in the world, which one would be right at the

423
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<v Speaker 2>top of your list? And why would you even consider

424
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<v Speaker 2>that golf course?

425
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<v Speaker 3>One hundred percent? August Augusta National one hundred percent, no doubt.

426
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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I was hoping you were going to say something

427
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<v Speaker 2>else that Augusta.

428
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<v Speaker 3>No, definitely Augusta.

429
00:30:38.039 --> 00:30:46.799
<v Speaker 2>Why specifically Augusta.

430
00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:48.279
<v Speaker 3>Because it's inaccessible to normal golfers. All the leaders I

431
00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:57.039
<v Speaker 3>play these steep traditions, Mom, I myself have Augusta week

432
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<v Speaker 3>in our home. And yeah, it's just the prestigious of it,

433
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:04.799
<v Speaker 3>everything around it.

434
00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I mean traditions and accessibility. Right now, let's

435
00:31:13.720 --> 00:31:18.319
<v Speaker 2>let's let's go back to the essence of golf a

436
00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:20.960
<v Speaker 2>lot of people would say that golf has a lot

437
00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:24.200
<v Speaker 2>of etiquete. It's a very intrick spot. It's a very

438
00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:29.160
<v Speaker 2>sophisticated spot. Now, we know, as golf us that there

439
00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:32.599
<v Speaker 2>are rules and rules cannot be broken on the golf course,

440
00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:37.960
<v Speaker 2>even if you're playing alone. If with that in mind,

441
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<v Speaker 2>what would you say of all the rules that you've

442
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:45.720
<v Speaker 2>come across in the rules books, which one is the silliest?

443
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:48.240
<v Speaker 2>If I was to put it that way, to say, now,

444
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:50.559
<v Speaker 2>this rule is quite silly. It doesn't really make sense,

445
00:31:50.640 --> 00:31:53.960
<v Speaker 2>or it doesn't really resonate with you that much, and

446
00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:56.759
<v Speaker 2>if you had an opportunity to change, you would actually

447
00:31:56.799 --> 00:31:58.519
<v Speaker 2>do it in the blink of an eye. Which of

448
00:31:58.559 --> 00:32:01.680
<v Speaker 2>the rules do you think? I'm quite silly? To you?

449
00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:14.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm a rules phonetic and often debased him with and

450
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:19.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I'll go with the rules so and

451
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:21.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm also lady captain at the club, so I have

452
00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:26.160
<v Speaker 3>to go with all all the rules. Which is the ruler?

453
00:32:26.240 --> 00:32:37.599
<v Speaker 3>Don't look? Mm hmm, I'm not sure. Okay, I'll go.

454
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:40.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm a rules goal mm hmmm mm hmm.

455
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:49.599
<v Speaker 2>Now now I just want to find out. I mean, obviously,

456
00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:53.400
<v Speaker 2>like you said, you started playing nine years ago, and

457
00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:59.160
<v Speaker 2>you were introduced to the game by your fiance after

458
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:02.119
<v Speaker 2>many years where you didn't want to play the games

459
00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:06.559
<v Speaker 2>while your parents are playing the game right now, for

460
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:12.079
<v Speaker 2>any woman out there who wants to start playing golf,

461
00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:15.200
<v Speaker 2>what would you what would be your piece of advice

462
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:17.759
<v Speaker 2>to them to say to get into the game, this

463
00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:20.559
<v Speaker 2>is what you think they should do or these are

464
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<v Speaker 2>the approaches that they should take to actually get into

465
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<v Speaker 2>the games.

466
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<v Speaker 3>I would definitely go for golf lessons with a professional.

467
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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh.

468
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<v Speaker 3>I think golf lessons are important.

469
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, all right, that's fair. And uh we

470
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<v Speaker 2>with that being said, uh, golf lessons. Obviously, as beginners,

471
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:03.440
<v Speaker 2>we like smashing the ball. I don't want to like,

472
00:34:03.640 --> 00:34:06.559
<v Speaker 2>we really really like hearing the sound of a club

473
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:09.199
<v Speaker 2>or a driver when it makes contact with the ball.

474
00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Do you think that there's any specific part of golf

475
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<v Speaker 2>that as a beginner you should focus on before you

476
00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:24.000
<v Speaker 2>move on to the other parts, you know?

477
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:28.159
<v Speaker 3>I see people go straight onto the golf course and

478
00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:33.360
<v Speaker 3>it is so difficult for the player to be put

479
00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:36.440
<v Speaker 3>in that position. They should be on the range for

480
00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:41.360
<v Speaker 3>at least two months, going for a few lessons, and

481
00:34:41.519 --> 00:34:47.079
<v Speaker 3>the lessons from a professional. I see people going the

482
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:49.840
<v Speaker 3>boyfriend is teaching them, and he's teaching them all the

483
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:53.440
<v Speaker 3>wrong stuff from the beginning. Yeah, so I would say

484
00:34:53.519 --> 00:34:59.320
<v Speaker 3>definitely a professional. I got a world of gold. Go

485
00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:03.599
<v Speaker 3>there for few lessons, go in practice, practice, practice, before

486
00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:06.199
<v Speaker 3>you even get onto the golf course.

487
00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:07.159
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

488
00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:10.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would say that.

489
00:35:12.039 --> 00:35:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Awesome. And then personally, your your favorite club just to

490
00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:21.039
<v Speaker 2>relax and to have fun, not to play, because obviously,

491
00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:26.280
<v Speaker 2>uh there's I would presume that there's a there's a

492
00:35:26.280 --> 00:35:28.599
<v Speaker 2>favorite club when it comes to complexity, and there's a

493
00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:31.159
<v Speaker 2>favorite club when it comes to easiness a play. So

494
00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:33.239
<v Speaker 2>just to relax and have fun. Which one would you

495
00:35:33.280 --> 00:35:35.239
<v Speaker 2>say is your most favorite club?

496
00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:42.480
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmmm. I like the rescues. They are easy to hit.

497
00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:47.800
<v Speaker 3>I've got to two small ones that I'm very fond of,

498
00:35:48.719 --> 00:35:53.559
<v Speaker 3>and for Ladies. For Ladies as a very easy club

499
00:35:53.599 --> 00:36:00.000
<v Speaker 3>to use. Mm hmmm. Yes, so the rescues are definite

500
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:05.880
<v Speaker 3>of them both and get you They easy to get

501
00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:06.800
<v Speaker 3>in the a.

502
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Lovely you know, I've personally tried to play. I don't know,

503
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:15.599
<v Speaker 2>maybe it's just me and how I positioned my mind.

504
00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:19.840
<v Speaker 2>But when it comes to woods, whether it's a three wood,

505
00:36:19.840 --> 00:36:25.280
<v Speaker 2>a five wood, rescue club, hybrid irons, anything that has

506
00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:29.320
<v Speaker 2>a bulky shape in my back, I try by all

507
00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:31.760
<v Speaker 2>means to stay away from them. I don't know if

508
00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:34.960
<v Speaker 2>it's just my mind, because I focus so much on

509
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:37.800
<v Speaker 2>the bulkiness, and I think that when I get back

510
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:41.639
<v Speaker 2>on my on my swing, I'll off that ball or

511
00:36:41.679 --> 00:36:43.679
<v Speaker 2>I'll just heat into the ground and the ball won't

512
00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:46.679
<v Speaker 2>have any flights. So I prefer like club slops. I've

513
00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:50.280
<v Speaker 2>been playing with blades for over ten years, and I'm

514
00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:53.679
<v Speaker 2>not actually supposed to play with blades, but for some reason,

515
00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:59.119
<v Speaker 2>I found myself enjoying them more than anything. And I'm

516
00:36:59.119 --> 00:37:03.360
<v Speaker 2>basically saying this course, I'm of the opinion that fitting

517
00:37:03.639 --> 00:37:08.760
<v Speaker 2>club fitting is very important, especially for beginners. You you,

518
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:11.880
<v Speaker 2>you would you would know as someone who interacts with

519
00:37:11.920 --> 00:37:14.679
<v Speaker 2>a lot of players, whether they've been playing for a

520
00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:18.639
<v Speaker 2>very long time or a short while. What would you

521
00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:23.400
<v Speaker 2>say is the right approach around fitting for someone who's

522
00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:27.719
<v Speaker 2>just going into the game off better? Yet, the best

523
00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:31.519
<v Speaker 2>approach to actually purchase a set of clubs would it be?

524
00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:36.199
<v Speaker 2>Would you say maybe just going online or go into

525
00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:41.800
<v Speaker 2>a specialist in that field to say, listen, I'm looking

526
00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:44.239
<v Speaker 2>for this, this is who I am and I need

527
00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:46.159
<v Speaker 2>something that's going to work with me. What would you

528
00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:48.480
<v Speaker 2>say would be the best approach around it?

529
00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:53.920
<v Speaker 3>Thank you? So very important and a good fitting for

530
00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:57.760
<v Speaker 3>a lady is very important. I know a lot of

531
00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:02.480
<v Speaker 3>ladies that supply with clubs. It's not for them. And

532
00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:04.920
<v Speaker 3>as much as they say yes it's the career, it's

533
00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:08.800
<v Speaker 3>not the correct clubs for them. Ladies are both differently.

534
00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:13.599
<v Speaker 3>We should be using ladies clubs. So definitely are good

535
00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:18.920
<v Speaker 3>footing and you can start off small. You know, for

536
00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:23.000
<v Speaker 3>any golfer to go to the the pro shop, you

537
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:27.480
<v Speaker 3>can find a great set of clubs. But definitely you

538
00:38:27.559 --> 00:38:33.519
<v Speaker 3>need to get the correct clubs for yourself. And I

539
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:36.400
<v Speaker 3>know a lot of ladies play with men's clubs and

540
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:40.039
<v Speaker 3>it's not the correct clubs for them.

541
00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:50.079
<v Speaker 2>Awesome, awesome. Now with the next question, Heidi, you played

542
00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:55.320
<v Speaker 2>with a lot of people right now. If there's any

543
00:38:55.639 --> 00:39:00.960
<v Speaker 2>fun fact out there about your game that you believe

544
00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:04.079
<v Speaker 2>nobody else knows about, what would you say is.

545
00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:15.679
<v Speaker 3>I'm very competitive. I'm extremely competitive. When I started golf

546
00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:19.239
<v Speaker 3>from my fiance I said to mean you're not competitive

547
00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:23.760
<v Speaker 3>enough for the sport and is creative a monster out

548
00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:32.480
<v Speaker 3>of me. So I love competitive golf. Yeah, I think, yes,

549
00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:34.440
<v Speaker 3>I am very competitive.

550
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:37.800
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm, you don't. You don't like losing at all?

551
00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:38.639
<v Speaker 4>Ah?

552
00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:43.239
<v Speaker 3>No, and and applay league, so that that makes it

553
00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:46.400
<v Speaker 3>even racist. I do not like losing.

554
00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:52.679
<v Speaker 2>At all, if you don't mind me asking, I mean, uh,

555
00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:57.280
<v Speaker 2>you know when you say you're very competitive, and considering

556
00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:00.320
<v Speaker 2>the number of times that you've mentioned you for on

557
00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:06.519
<v Speaker 2>certain competitions, right, how fast was it for you to

558
00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:08.920
<v Speaker 2>actually drop to a single handicap?

559
00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:11.800
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm not a single handicap.

560
00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:13.280
<v Speaker 2>I was hoping you are.

561
00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:21.480
<v Speaker 3>No, I'm not. I'm a good twenty six. I'm a

562
00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:23.960
<v Speaker 3>twenty six handicap, but it's not the same as the mean.

563
00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:28.920
<v Speaker 3>But I'm a good twenty six. I play league for

564
00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:33.840
<v Speaker 3>the club. But yes, no, I'm definitely not a single.

565
00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:37.039
<v Speaker 3>I'm definitely not a single.

566
00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:46.599
<v Speaker 2>But I was just pulling your name. You play league,

567
00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:52.840
<v Speaker 2>you play competitions, but what's your How do you actually

568
00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:59.559
<v Speaker 2>unwind after a crazy tournament or league game? How do

569
00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:03.800
<v Speaker 2>you reflect and say, Okay, I did good, I did bad?

570
00:41:04.199 --> 00:41:07.679
<v Speaker 2>And what precautions of steps do you take to actually

571
00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:10.960
<v Speaker 2>address whatever might have happened throughout the day.

572
00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:18.440
<v Speaker 3>We just go through it. At our club, we have

573
00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:26.199
<v Speaker 3>a social event after golf on a Saturday and we

574
00:41:26.280 --> 00:41:28.559
<v Speaker 3>sit around the ladies. We've got one of the biggest

575
00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:35.719
<v Speaker 3>ladies groups in Iulini at Lake Club and then we

576
00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:37.719
<v Speaker 3>all talk about it and have a few Gin and

577
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:48.039
<v Speaker 3>Tonic softwawards. Yeah, yeah, both golf and love you hate it.

578
00:41:48.519 --> 00:41:49.360
<v Speaker 3>I love it most.

579
00:41:55.079 --> 00:41:57.039
<v Speaker 2>I like the way you're saying golf is God because

580
00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:01.679
<v Speaker 2>it's it's se so easy and it feels so easy

581
00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:04.920
<v Speaker 2>when you play it because it doesn't require too much

582
00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:11.960
<v Speaker 2>physicause straining. But at the same time, mentally it's a

583
00:42:11.960 --> 00:42:12.800
<v Speaker 2>big challenge.

584
00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:17.480
<v Speaker 3>I think. I think people can come onto the golf

585
00:42:17.559 --> 00:42:20.599
<v Speaker 3>course and that can whatever has happened to them during

586
00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:24.280
<v Speaker 3>the week or whatever's happening in their life just goes

587
00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:28.079
<v Speaker 3>at the backack door. Golf can put your mind off

588
00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:31.679
<v Speaker 3>a lot of stresses, and I can also cause you stress.

589
00:42:32.760 --> 00:42:35.360
<v Speaker 3>But we love it. We love it at the end

590
00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:40.320
<v Speaker 3>of the day. And it's for any age, so golf

591
00:42:40.360 --> 00:42:43.639
<v Speaker 3>can start of you. We've got youngsters at our club,

592
00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:47.800
<v Speaker 3>tony little kids playing and then we've got people in

593
00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:51.320
<v Speaker 3>the eighties playing golf, So golfers for everyone.

594
00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:59.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh now, let's go back to the Benoni's Ladies Club

595
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:06.159
<v Speaker 2>Lake Club. Right, how do do you guys have like

596
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:10.199
<v Speaker 2>certain criteria that you require in order for anyone to

597
00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:15.159
<v Speaker 2>join the club, the Ladies Club or is it open

598
00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:19.199
<v Speaker 2>to anyone who's interested in playing with you guys.

599
00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:21.559
<v Speaker 3>Well, first of all you have to be a member

600
00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:27.800
<v Speaker 3>at La Club Bononi and then have a handicap. Yeah,

601
00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:32.239
<v Speaker 3>so yes, And then every Saturday we have tein tea.

602
00:43:33.440 --> 00:43:36.320
<v Speaker 3>We've got a good following of ladies. We have about

603
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:40.360
<v Speaker 3>twenty plus ladies playing on a Saturday. We have a

604
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:47.159
<v Speaker 3>membership of over seventy ladies at our club. And yeah,

605
00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:52.639
<v Speaker 3>we've got a good camaraderie of ladies. We have full

606
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:58.800
<v Speaker 3>league teams. We play Tuesday and Sunday league in two divisions.

607
00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:02.239
<v Speaker 3>And we've got a set of ladies and they play

608
00:44:02.400 --> 00:44:07.079
<v Speaker 3>also on a Tuesday at a club MHM. And they

609
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:09.880
<v Speaker 3>are much loved by the other members of the club.

610
00:44:09.960 --> 00:44:16.800
<v Speaker 3>So the lady is full in everybody else. Yeah, every

611
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:20.760
<v Speaker 3>quarter we have three jackson a jaw and then the

612
00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:24.360
<v Speaker 3>main members fart for the lady that they want in

613
00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:28.760
<v Speaker 3>the in their football. And yeah, we get on well

614
00:44:28.840 --> 00:44:29.840
<v Speaker 3>with the men at the club.

615
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:36.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, awesome. Awesome. Now I'm going to ask you

616
00:44:36.239 --> 00:44:40.679
<v Speaker 2>questions about you and golf personally. Right to say, apart

617
00:44:40.719 --> 00:44:46.119
<v Speaker 2>from the competition aspect of golf, what role would you

618
00:44:46.159 --> 00:44:49.840
<v Speaker 2>say golf plays in your life personally in the sense

619
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<v Speaker 2>that are there any teachings that you've actually gotten from

620
00:44:55.400 --> 00:45:00.800
<v Speaker 2>golf since you started playing, whether it's values or belief

621
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:04.639
<v Speaker 2>systems or anything that has been instilled within you through.

622
00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:10.639
<v Speaker 3>Golf my life for the one said to me, if

623
00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:15.079
<v Speaker 3>you cheat at golf, you cheat at lab and if

624
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:19.320
<v Speaker 3>somebody catches you cheating, they will never forget that. So

625
00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:26.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm an honest golfer. Don't you cheat? And and it's

626
00:45:26.159 --> 00:45:29.159
<v Speaker 3>so true because if you can think of somebody that

627
00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:33.440
<v Speaker 3>you've seen has did something wrong, you'll never forget that

628
00:45:33.639 --> 00:45:37.239
<v Speaker 3>person and what they did. I play league. I play

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<v Speaker 3>league for the club. You know, golf is a sport

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<v Speaker 3>about integrity and anybody can play.

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<v Speaker 2>M and if you were too, if I was to

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<v Speaker 2>ask you, like, do you have any particular goals in

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<v Speaker 2>golf apart from you being captain and playing in the

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<v Speaker 2>league and competitions, is there any particular goal that you

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<v Speaker 2>have in mind to say, this is where I want

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<v Speaker 2>to see myself through golf or this is where I

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<v Speaker 2>see my golf being at a particular point in time.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd like to play for the senior national ladies team.

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<v Speaker 2>M hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>They have it every year. I'd love to play for

641
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<v Speaker 3>that team once I've basically done everything that I'm supposed

642
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:45.320
<v Speaker 3>to be. I'd like to win club champs. I think

643
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<v Speaker 3>that for any golfer would like to win their own

644
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<v Speaker 3>club champs. I'd love to win club champs. One. I've

645
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<v Speaker 3>won a lot of competitions at the club. I've won

646
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<v Speaker 3>the medal finals, which is quite difficult. But club champs,

647
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<v Speaker 3>I think that's on everybody's backet list. Two. One own

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<v Speaker 3>club champs in their own division at least once.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want to ask this question now, like if

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<v Speaker 2>if you were to reflect right on yourself from the

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<v Speaker 2>time that you are not playing golf till now, what

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<v Speaker 2>would you say has changed a lot in terms of

653
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<v Speaker 2>like you said, golf is as part of integrity, right,

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<v Speaker 2>what would you say has changed a lot in terms

655
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<v Speaker 2>of how you view things in general, whether it's in

656
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<v Speaker 2>the professional space, whether it's in your private space. Has

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<v Speaker 2>the perception of how you view things changed overall?

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<v Speaker 3>The first the first two years of me playing golf

659
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<v Speaker 3>was very difficult because golf is not a natural game.

660
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<v Speaker 3>It's for a human and for me, it was very

661
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<v Speaker 3>difficult stuck on a thirty six handicap for I think

662
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<v Speaker 3>the first three years mm hmm. And then I just

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<v Speaker 3>persistent and persisted and got more competitive. I think people

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<v Speaker 3>need to play more competitive golf. But discipline is a

665
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<v Speaker 3>big thing when you get to the golf course, go

666
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<v Speaker 3>to the patting green, yeah, the drawing range. H yeah, definitely, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that definitely discipline m hm.

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<v Speaker 2>And if I'm as when you we're talking about discipline,

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00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:53.639
<v Speaker 2>obviously the format that you play in it's also part

670
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<v Speaker 2>of the discipline of golf. Right, what would you say

671
00:48:56.199 --> 00:49:01.679
<v Speaker 2>is your favorite format? Strop play, mesh play, oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Match play, match play is mam. I am so competitive

673
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<v Speaker 3>at league. Match play is mark is mar thing and

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<v Speaker 3>I love it, absolutely love it. We are very fortunate.

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<v Speaker 2>H You wouldn't substitute it for anything else there.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I love match play. I absolutely love it. We

677
00:49:27.519 --> 00:49:34.920
<v Speaker 3>play knockout at our clubs, so we play betterball knockout,

678
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:38.679
<v Speaker 3>we play individual knockout, and we play mixed knockout. And

679
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<v Speaker 3>our love match play. Also with league league is also

680
00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:48.719
<v Speaker 3>match plays, so I have a betable partner in that

681
00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:55.199
<v Speaker 3>we play together definitely become a little tyrant. I love it,

682
00:49:55.800 --> 00:49:57.239
<v Speaker 3>absolutely love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome stuff. And going back to the women's club at

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<v Speaker 2>Lake Right, I mean, as the captain, do you have

685
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<v Speaker 2>any place on how to grow the women's team day.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we have a development side at our club where

687
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<v Speaker 3>we bring in about anything between ten and twenty children

688
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<v Speaker 3>from Dayton on the weekend, they come and play at

689
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<v Speaker 3>our club. They get a lunch, get to play that

690
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<v Speaker 3>wasn't get to practice if they can't play a full

691
00:50:39.320 --> 00:50:42.719
<v Speaker 3>round it they get to practice. And to see these

692
00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:47.480
<v Speaker 3>children on a Saturday coming up the ranks, it's so rewarding,

693
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<v Speaker 3>so so rewarding.

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<v Speaker 2>That's one hundred percent. And you know, there's something I

695
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<v Speaker 2>always say about golfers, to say that golfers have beautiful hearts.

696
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<v Speaker 2>The reason I would say this is because we ask

697
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<v Speaker 2>golf us we like people to experience what we experience

698
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<v Speaker 2>on the golf course. We like people to go through

699
00:51:14.519 --> 00:51:17.039
<v Speaker 2>what we go through on the golf course. And by

700
00:51:17.079 --> 00:51:19.800
<v Speaker 2>so doing, we tend to extend our hands to say

701
00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:23.239
<v Speaker 2>please come come, even if you don't know how to play,

702
00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:27.039
<v Speaker 2>come and let me teach you. Although we're not professionals

703
00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:30.000
<v Speaker 2>and we're not created to teach people, we just want

704
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:32.679
<v Speaker 2>to see more people getting into the game and going

705
00:51:32.760 --> 00:51:35.440
<v Speaker 2>through what we experience. And I like what you're saying

706
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:38.440
<v Speaker 2>to say that you guys have a development side where

707
00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:42.519
<v Speaker 2>you're bringing young people into the game and whether they

708
00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:46.360
<v Speaker 2>play or they practice, you just want to see them

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00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:52.400
<v Speaker 2>experience what you have been experiencing the beautiful sports itself exactly.

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00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:55.079
<v Speaker 3>And if you Saturday, if you come to our club,

711
00:51:55.119 --> 00:51:58.920
<v Speaker 3>you will see these children. These children at the club,

712
00:51:59.039 --> 00:52:03.760
<v Speaker 3>the practice around the greens, they with their friends, they're

713
00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:07.519
<v Speaker 3>out of the environment coming into the golfing environment and

714
00:52:07.559 --> 00:52:12.760
<v Speaker 3>they're learning rules. It's just so lovely to see. And

715
00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:18.079
<v Speaker 3>that's tiny little kids anything from six all the way

716
00:52:18.159 --> 00:52:20.639
<v Speaker 3>up to eighteen years old.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's great.

718
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:26.719
<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's great, and we just everybody loves them at

719
00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:27.119
<v Speaker 3>the club.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, my last question for you today before I'll let

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<v Speaker 2>you go, Haidi, if you were to just say it

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<v Speaker 2>from the top of your head, right, what would you

723
00:52:44.719 --> 00:52:48.400
<v Speaker 2>say is the most rewarding part of leading the Ladies

724
00:52:49.039 --> 00:52:52.199
<v Speaker 2>club or the Ladies team at Benoni Lake Club.

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00:52:55.519 --> 00:52:59.559
<v Speaker 3>First of all, I've got the best ladies on the

726
00:52:59.599 --> 00:53:04.719
<v Speaker 3>instrum and in We've got such a great group of

727
00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:08.519
<v Speaker 3>girls and it's been a privilege for me to be

728
00:53:08.800 --> 00:53:15.920
<v Speaker 3>the lady captain. I've seen juniors grow, We have seen

729
00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:21.679
<v Speaker 3>a senior ladies doing well. We had three senior ladies

730
00:53:21.760 --> 00:53:27.599
<v Speaker 3>being chosen to play in the Senior Arputee this year.

731
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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, we are just just seeing the sport grow

732
00:53:33.480 --> 00:53:37.440
<v Speaker 3>and whether whether or not it's development children coming through

733
00:53:37.440 --> 00:53:41.960
<v Speaker 3>the ranks, or juniors coming through the ranks, or even

734
00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:46.280
<v Speaker 3>the seniors coming through the ranks. Golfers for everyone, and

735
00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:49.519
<v Speaker 3>it's for every age and I've been privileged to see

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00:53:49.559 --> 00:53:54.840
<v Speaker 3>all that and work for the club through that. We

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00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:58.800
<v Speaker 3>all do this on a voluntary basis, you know, being

738
00:53:58.840 --> 00:54:02.119
<v Speaker 3>on the committee it's all. I don't get paid. But

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00:54:02.159 --> 00:54:05.800
<v Speaker 3>if you have a question for golf and anything is possible.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to say something before before I let

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00:54:12.360 --> 00:54:17.760
<v Speaker 2>you go. I mean, like I said, because the sport

742
00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:24.440
<v Speaker 2>was highly dominated by male figures and women leagues are

743
00:54:24.519 --> 00:54:27.519
<v Speaker 2>now starting to emanate and a lot of women are

744
00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:33.320
<v Speaker 2>also integrating within the social golf clubs that's established out there.

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00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:38.000
<v Speaker 2>I personally want to say this about the Benoni Lake

746
00:54:38.039 --> 00:54:44.159
<v Speaker 2>Club women's team. All the best moving forward and please

747
00:54:44.320 --> 00:54:49.920
<v Speaker 2>continue getting those trophies. If there's any other club outside

748
00:54:50.039 --> 00:54:54.000
<v Speaker 2>that wants to challenge you guys, I'm sure they're in

749
00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:55.960
<v Speaker 2>for a good run for that money.

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00:54:57.280 --> 00:55:05.840
<v Speaker 3>They're definitely different. Our lady is a very very competitive

751
00:55:05.960 --> 00:55:09.760
<v Speaker 3>at our club, and that's great. We've been known for

752
00:55:09.800 --> 00:55:15.880
<v Speaker 3>our competitiveness. We've won league's often. Last year we won

753
00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:20.480
<v Speaker 3>a league. The year before we won three leagues, so

754
00:55:20.519 --> 00:55:24.519
<v Speaker 3>we are very very competitive at our club. We also

755
00:55:24.599 --> 00:55:29.280
<v Speaker 3>got the reigning blonde Lady Golfer, she's the world champion.

756
00:55:31.800 --> 00:55:36.639
<v Speaker 3>She's a member at our club. H And we've yes,

757
00:55:36.800 --> 00:55:40.320
<v Speaker 3>and we've got the youngsters, the juniors that play RPT,

758
00:55:41.159 --> 00:55:42.119
<v Speaker 3>we've also got them.

759
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:43.079
<v Speaker 2>So we're very.

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00:55:42.880 --> 00:55:46.039
<v Speaker 3>Competitive and we're very proud of our girls at our

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00:55:46.079 --> 00:55:47.079
<v Speaker 3>club as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Mum, hum I like hearing that, you know, if if

763
00:55:53.880 --> 00:55:57.320
<v Speaker 2>if anything else, I was going to say, I wish

764
00:55:57.360 --> 00:56:01.119
<v Speaker 2>I could join the ladies club, but I do not qualify.

765
00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:09.039
<v Speaker 3>I think the men in our club also feel the time.

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00:56:09.960 --> 00:56:17.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but Haili, it's been lovely having you and I

767
00:56:17.960 --> 00:56:20.800
<v Speaker 2>just have to say thank you so much for taking

768
00:56:20.800 --> 00:56:23.719
<v Speaker 2>the time to chat with us and to everyone around

769
00:56:23.719 --> 00:56:27.199
<v Speaker 2>you who's allowed you there's time to actually have a

770
00:56:27.239 --> 00:56:28.880
<v Speaker 2>chat with us. I know there's other things that you're

771
00:56:28.920 --> 00:56:33.920
<v Speaker 2>busy with, and it's always good to hear from someone

772
00:56:33.960 --> 00:56:39.519
<v Speaker 2>who leads and women's golf team to say, guys, we

773
00:56:39.559 --> 00:56:42.360
<v Speaker 2>are taking golf, and we are owning golf, and we

774
00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:45.440
<v Speaker 2>are actually making sure that more and more women are

775
00:56:45.480 --> 00:56:48.800
<v Speaker 2>getting involved in the sport and enjoying this spot. Because

776
00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:53.320
<v Speaker 2>this spot, like you said, anyone can play no matter

777
00:56:53.320 --> 00:56:55.840
<v Speaker 2>how young you are, how old you are, what sex

778
00:56:55.920 --> 00:56:58.440
<v Speaker 2>you are. The lovely thing about the sport is that

779
00:56:58.840 --> 00:57:01.320
<v Speaker 2>it does not choose. You just have to put your

780
00:57:01.320 --> 00:57:04.119
<v Speaker 2>mind to it and get into the game. So I

781
00:57:04.280 --> 00:57:07.719
<v Speaker 2>like what you're doing. I like what your team is

782
00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:11.480
<v Speaker 2>doing overall, and like I said, continue getting those trophies.

783
00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Next time I have a chat with you, I want

784
00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:16.800
<v Speaker 2>to ask you, Hidi, which one did you be?

785
00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:17.199
<v Speaker 3>Again?

786
00:57:18.400 --> 00:57:24.719
<v Speaker 4>My gosh, Tony, thank you very much for having me

787
00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:25.480
<v Speaker 4>on your show.

788
00:57:26.880 --> 00:57:30.559
<v Speaker 2>No, it's it's an absolute pleasure, and I hope to

789
00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:32.360
<v Speaker 2>chat to you in the near future.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, we sheldy all the best, Thank you, thanks so much,

791
00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:40.599
<v Speaker 3>all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye bye. All right, ladies and gentlemen, so that you

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<v Speaker 2>have it. That's the end of our segment today, and

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to say thank you, thank you, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for staying tuned in. As you know, Balls and Teas,

796
00:57:55.719 --> 00:58:00.199
<v Speaker 2>it's not just your local podcast. We go international. We've

797
00:58:00.239 --> 00:58:03.880
<v Speaker 2>got people listening to us in Russia, Indonesia, wherever you

798
00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:07.239
<v Speaker 2>go America, we are there. So make sure that you

799
00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:10.440
<v Speaker 2>keep on bringing more and more of your friends and

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00:58:10.519 --> 00:58:15.000
<v Speaker 2>families into the lovely sport of golf, because nothing is

801
00:58:15.119 --> 00:58:18.679
<v Speaker 2>better than golf. Take it from me. I've been playing golf.

802
00:58:18.760 --> 00:58:21.559
<v Speaker 2>I stopped playing golf, and I started playing golf again.

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00:58:21.719 --> 00:58:24.719
<v Speaker 2>So regardless what you do in life, this is one

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00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:28.960
<v Speaker 2>sport that you can always get back into. This is

805
00:58:29.000 --> 00:58:31.960
<v Speaker 2>one sport that you can never retire. I always say

806
00:58:31.960 --> 00:58:34.880
<v Speaker 2>to people the only time I will retire from golf

807
00:58:35.360 --> 00:58:38.800
<v Speaker 2>is when I am part of the soil. So with

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<v Speaker 2>that being said, ladies and gentlemen, I want to say

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<v Speaker 2>I really really acknowledge and appreciate each and every single

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00:58:45.400 --> 00:58:48.880
<v Speaker 2>one of you who's been supporting us. Bows and Tees

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00:58:49.199 --> 00:58:52.719
<v Speaker 2>is going back to the visual podcast. If you haven't

812
00:58:52.840 --> 00:58:56.199
<v Speaker 2>checked out our YouTube, make sure that you go to

813
00:58:56.239 --> 00:58:58.800
<v Speaker 2>YouTube and you will see what I'm talking about, because

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00:58:59.199 --> 00:59:03.679
<v Speaker 2>you will find beautiful video from the likes of Dylan

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<v Speaker 2>I Do, who's just won the SA Open. We had

816
00:59:06.760 --> 00:59:09.440
<v Speaker 2>a great time with him. He was telling us about

817
00:59:09.480 --> 00:59:12.760
<v Speaker 2>what's seeing his back and what ball he used to win.

818
00:59:12.960 --> 00:59:17.239
<v Speaker 2>And then we also have a professional PG credited coach

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00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:20.599
<v Speaker 2>who's sharing tips about golf. So please make sure that

820
00:59:20.880 --> 00:59:25.280
<v Speaker 2>you go onto our YouTube, subscribe, photo share, you know,

821
00:59:25.400 --> 00:59:27.559
<v Speaker 2>do the likes of it so that you do not

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<v Speaker 2>miss out on anything that has to do with golf.

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<v Speaker 2>With that being said, ladies and gentlemen, I have to say,

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow is officially my weekend, not our weekend. So if

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00:59:39.559 --> 00:59:44.840
<v Speaker 2>you're waking tomorrow, listen all the best and I wish

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<v Speaker 2>that you do the absolute best that you can do

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<v Speaker 2>at your job. But if you're waking on Friday, mate,

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<v Speaker 2>you just have to give me a call and I

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<v Speaker 2>will do what I have to do, which che is

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<v Speaker 2>to help you make sure that you spend your time

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<v Speaker 2>on the golf course and enjoy doing things that you

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01:00:02.719 --> 01:00:06.599
<v Speaker 2>love doing, which is playing golf, bringing more players, bringing

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01:00:06.679 --> 01:00:12.039
<v Speaker 2>more followers, bring in more people who actually support the spot.

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<v Speaker 2>With that being said, Tony Town the Magician is signing

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<v Speaker 2>out to a magician