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<v Speaker 1>So that's not a good time. I can't hear myself. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so what's going on is it? Because this?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now I can Yeah, I can sort of hear myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's turn that out little yeah, myself down. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>there we go. You're in a good place. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>definitely am.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me get all my my facts out here because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to mess it up. Yeah, yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you're ready, Yeah, fire away? All right, So balky pause, balky.

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<v Speaker 2>I was told on good authority that the Avengers Doomsday

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<v Speaker 2>movie is going to run three hours and forty five

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<v Speaker 2>minutes long. Yeah, yeah, you haven't heard that. Then this

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<v Speaker 2>is the first year here. Wait a minute, Wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>wait a minute, wait a minute. Yeah this is still

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<v Speaker 2>part one technically, yeah yeah, yes it is not.

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<v Speaker 1>Technically it is part one. So Secret Wars comes out

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<v Speaker 1>a year after.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I'm assuming that'll be a long one too,

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<v Speaker 3>because Endgame was significantly longer than about Infinity YEA one

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<v Speaker 3>from two to three twenty ye So this is like

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<v Speaker 3>these two movies that are being released by Marvel are

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<v Speaker 3>like it's like four movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and I'm totally here for it. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>not what I wanted to bring up with you.

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<v Speaker 1>My bladder's not oh perfect, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, for those of you listening, he didn't know. This

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<v Speaker 2>is where this conversation was going. Run P is a

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<v Speaker 2>new app that's out right now. Yeah, are you familiar

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<v Speaker 2>with it?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not, but I told you I read an article

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<v Speaker 3>when Endgame was coming out that from the people who

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<v Speaker 3>reviewed it, you know, the critics. There are critics who

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<v Speaker 3>got a handle of it. Somebody put out an article

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<v Speaker 3>about like the six times you can afford to go peeck,

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<v Speaker 3>like when Hulk says this, when you see Scarlet Witch

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<v Speaker 3>do this, you have this much time, right, And I

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<v Speaker 3>guess it just makes makes sense that somebody would have

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<v Speaker 3>the ingenuity and the time to come up with an

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<v Speaker 3>app that you can upload the times to pee where

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<v Speaker 3>for every movie right now. I don't know how they

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<v Speaker 3>do this. They must have a team of people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and what I said, So Jonathan Crause of Whby

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<v Speaker 2>brought this up with me, and I said, well, you see,

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<v Speaker 2>it's on a person by person basis because for my money,

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<v Speaker 2>and I used Game of Thrones as an example. My

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<v Speaker 2>favorite scenes of that show is like when Tierry and

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<v Speaker 2>Jamie and Surcy are sitting around a table talking shit

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<v Speaker 2>to one another. Like, the dragons scenes are cool, the

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<v Speaker 2>battle scenes are cool, But give me the dialogue in

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<v Speaker 2>those kinds of situations. Well, there's a lot of that

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<v Speaker 2>Marvel movies. On the other hand, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>I could probably skip some of the dialogue. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you miss if you're watching Endgame and you miss what's

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<v Speaker 2>her name, the ancient one talking to the Hulk about

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<v Speaker 2>how the timelines exist, you are missing crucial data for

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<v Speaker 2>the remainder of the show, even though it's not necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>an action packed moment in the show, so it does

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<v Speaker 2>feel relative. But I'll tell you what, if you're giving

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<v Speaker 2>me a three hour, forty five minute movie and no intermission,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm probably gonna have to utilize the app because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know short of just not bringing a drink in,

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<v Speaker 2>peing right before I go, and then just sucking it

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<v Speaker 2>up for four hours and not ing any liquids.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually thought about sneaking a.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you know, you bring in a bottle of soda

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<v Speaker 3>into the theater, which please don't do. Yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 3>know you do it, bring that in and then peeing

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<v Speaker 3>in that once that's gone, you know, But but there

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<v Speaker 3>were so many people in there.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't really do that. You can't sit and pee. No,

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<v Speaker 1>not at that show, because I'll be there opening night.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Back when Jenko jeans were popular, I snuck an entire Remember.

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<v Speaker 1>You had a pair of jen coach.

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<v Speaker 2>I had several jeans and I went to see Castaway.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to see Castaway, and I snuck a two

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting there because you know, Castaway runs pretty quiet.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty there's no music, there's no dialogue other than

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<v Speaker 2>the Tom Hanks talking to a ball. It's like twisting

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<v Speaker 2>the cap of a two liter bottle. Absolutely draws some

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<v Speaker 2>eyes when you do it. It's a very fond memory

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<v Speaker 2>of mine, being like a twelve year old going into

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of Castaway, did you ever see the film? I

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<v Speaker 1>might have brought this up to you. All is lost. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it was Robert Redford, I believe his last I did

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<v Speaker 1>see it. I did see that. Yeah, that was another

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<v Speaker 1>one too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's not it's a lot of quiet, not a

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<v Speaker 3>lot happening, but it's much shorter than casting.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you remember, he was a very artistic man. The

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<v Speaker 2>fact that he did Winter Soldier was actually very out

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<v Speaker 2>of character for him.

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<v Speaker 3>Once he had there's certain actors that do that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that you're like, oh really they're they're they're doing a

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<v Speaker 3>Marvel movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, yeah, he's definitely one of them for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like mahrschel maherschel Ali Yes played like I

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<v Speaker 2>heard that, Like, yeah, right, he's another one as well.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a handful of them. Anthony Hopkins is Odin caught

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<v Speaker 2>me off guard. Yeah, I forgot about that one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a couple in there. But to bring it full circle, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>Christian Bale as for the God Butcher the a good

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<v Speaker 2>part of that movie. What a waste of his talents.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I say all that to say, uh, not

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<v Speaker 2>to say I didn't enjoy this flick, that being the

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<v Speaker 2>Bone Temple, But I definitely didn't need an app to

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<v Speaker 2>tell me when to pee. You could pee for this hour,

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<v Speaker 2>right yeah, and you could pee it just about any

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<v Speaker 2>time of that movie, and you really wouldn't have missed.

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<v Speaker 1>For the most part.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there were a couple of punctuated I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>what kind of makes these movies what they are, is

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<v Speaker 2>there's punctuated action with long think pieces.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think I think the developing relationship between Kelson

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<v Speaker 3>and Samson, like if you would have missed like that

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<v Speaker 3>early on, you'd be like, wait, what what's that here?

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<v Speaker 1>It's very much but there is a lot of story.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. We're doing the second part

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<v Speaker 2>of the three part adapt adaptation of twenty eight years later,

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<v Speaker 2>this one being the bone.

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<v Speaker 3>Before it is gonna be fo It's gonna be four Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And Danny Boyle is directing that the next one.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, see, so I googled is there going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a third one? And they said, yes, I didn't see

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<v Speaker 2>anything about a fourth, but we're going four deep already.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me let me look this up here, because yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure I'm getting.

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<v Speaker 2>This, because this one definitely ends on a quasi cliffhanger

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<v Speaker 2>as well, not anything edge of your seat wise, but

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<v Speaker 2>next step in this process is going to be, which

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<v Speaker 2>is enough. It was enough to make me go home

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<v Speaker 2>and google have they already been greenlit for a third one?

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<v Speaker 2>Because my interest is peaked and.

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<v Speaker 3>Untitled untitled fifth film's yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So oh wait, but is that clounting Days and Weeks

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<v Speaker 1>and then.

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<v Speaker 3>Plus these days weeks, years and then bone fourth and

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<v Speaker 3>then the fifth is untitled?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so the third one in this little iteration, but

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<v Speaker 2>it does look like it's going to go full circle

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<v Speaker 2>with the last album.

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<v Speaker 3>Alex Garland, who is the screenwriter for Days and Weeks,

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<v Speaker 3>is a screenwriter for this one, and Danny Boyle confirming

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<v Speaker 3>last January he would direct the third film in the

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<v Speaker 3>new trilogy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand how is that the new trilogy? That's

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<v Speaker 1>how I look at it, because technically one unless you're

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<v Speaker 1>unless well okay, yeah, I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't get that at all, because even if you're

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<v Speaker 3>counting Years and Bone as one, then this would be

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<v Speaker 3>the second film.

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<v Speaker 2>See I'm viewing Years, Bone, and then this third one

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be three films of a trilogy that,

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<v Speaker 2>while they technically connect with the first two movies, are

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<v Speaker 2>their own thing. That's how I'm kind of been viewing it,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think this one goes if you saw the

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<v Speaker 2>first one which is available on Netflix. That one ends

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<v Speaker 2>and this one. As I told you during our tees

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<v Speaker 2>direct continuation of where that ends, if you watch this one,

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<v Speaker 2>you could watch twenty eight weeks later and not necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>have seen twenty eight days later. You could not watch

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<v Speaker 2>Bone Temple and not have seen twenty eight years later.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd have no idea about anything.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you'd have some I well, yeah, no, you really should, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>because there are some new stuff that's introduced here, like

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<v Speaker 3>the band of Jimmy's, the Jimmy's, the finger band. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>the finger Band, the finger Gang. That was wow. Careful

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<v Speaker 3>how I say that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Right, the fingers Gang. They did not appear in years

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<v Speaker 3>until the very very end of the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and now they were kind of like a central

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<v Speaker 3>the central part or a central part of this film.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The way I'm describing it to people. I was talking

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<v Speaker 2>with APL's John Jordan about it, and I said, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the movie was essentially a mixture of a watered down

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<v Speaker 2>Devil's Rejects and an art house like film that like

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<v Speaker 2>has some very artistic qualities to it. That is, someone

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<v Speaker 2>who enjoys cinema I liked very much and is someone

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<v Speaker 2>who enjoyed Devil's Rejects I liked very much. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was sitting there and I'm interested in your take on

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<v Speaker 2>this because for me, having been twelve years old watching

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<v Speaker 2>Rob Zombie's wife do horrible things to strangers in a

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<v Speaker 2>hotel room, me seeing this movie, I'm like, oh man,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a little squeamish right now. These guys are getting

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<v Speaker 2>a little left up right now. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>mainstream audiences might struggle with this a little bit, because

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<v Speaker 2>if you haven't grown up on it, maybe, But you're saying, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I did.

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<v Speaker 3>Not get that feeling at all. Are you talking specifically

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<v Speaker 3>about the barn?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was the only thing. And even then I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't think that was It was like.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's not like I was going to walk out.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm viewing it. For me, I was fine. I'm saying

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<v Speaker 2>all the mariage that you.

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<v Speaker 3>Could say this about as far as how mainstream audience

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<v Speaker 3>was to take it, This to me is bizarre that that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know not at all, Because again, and I'll bring

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<v Speaker 2>it back to a conversation we've had on this podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>the intro to Nagan and I actually looked this up

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's the best and Amerisy, so

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you're a little more skewed than you realize.

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<v Speaker 3>What the mass I would just assume that everybody's like me.

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<v Speaker 3>I did not read the Walking Dead graphic novel.

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<v Speaker 1>I neither. I need no idea.

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<v Speaker 3>But once I got into the show, like two seasons in, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Hold on, hold on, just I'll get there, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm seeing, like what matches up and what does it? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, what's the next logical step? The next logical step

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<v Speaker 1>No? Sure?

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<v Speaker 3>And so then so I knew it was coming, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I knew that this whole. I knew the introduction Megan

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<v Speaker 3>while spoiler alert, it kills a second person. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he's about to cut Carl's arm off, and

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<v Speaker 2>ten to fifteen minutes. And again, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>turn anybody off to it. Like I was thoroughly enjoyed.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, it was very light compared to other stuff

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen. But I also know a lot of mainstream

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<v Speaker 2>audiences tend to stray away from that kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>And to put some perspective on I'll tell this, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>I think mainstream audiences would be more upset about the

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<v Speaker 3>gratuitous and frequent male frontal nudity in this in this

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<v Speaker 3>film than they would about the violence the barn scene. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and ray Fied's I mean fines, Ray Fines. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>What the hell? Man?

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<v Speaker 2>Second time we've seen it though. We wasn't he a

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? He is?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we we we got, we got Uh he hung

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<v Speaker 2>dong and uh. There was actually rumors that they had

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<v Speaker 2>that rumor came out. I don't know if it's real

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<v Speaker 3>I heard Michael Fastbender, that's that's oh yeah, he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's interesting, that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>I also heard from not that I want to turn

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<v Speaker 3>this into a celebrity mail genital with it, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>because Clooney made at like the Golden Globes. He made

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<v Speaker 3>reference to some movie that Michael Fassbender did that year

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<v Speaker 3>where he did full frontal and and Clooney compared his

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<v Speaker 3>little Fastbender to a golf club. And I also heard this,

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<v Speaker 3>and I can't remember who said this. This is like

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<v Speaker 3>a famous famous female musician. I think that toured with

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<v Speaker 3>all these different like all these different musical acts, right, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>And this was like a long time ago, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think she's still alive, but she's definitely, you know, much

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<v Speaker 3>closer to death than birth. And somebody asked her because

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<v Speaker 3>I guess she slept with a lot of the acts,

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<v Speaker 3>the male acts she toured with, and they're like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>who had the biggest you know, and she said, hands down,

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<v Speaker 3>not close.

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<v Speaker 1>Huey Lewis. Huey Lewis apparently was the had the most

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<v Speaker 1>impressive member. So there you go. That's good to know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good to know. These are the kind of coment

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<v Speaker 1>that's my extent of celebrity mail Cheditalia.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that wasn't that the premise and knocked up

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<v Speaker 2>they were going to start a website based on this

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<v Speaker 2>kind of thing. People care, people are interested in it now.

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<v Speaker 2>But let me let me paint a picture for you

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<v Speaker 2>here of what I saw. So I went on Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>which was a holiday for a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Martin Luther King Day. Were you off? I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I work on Christmas? Okay, perfect? Perfect?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I was not off either. So but I chose

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<v Speaker 2>to go to the Monday showing because it was National

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<v Speaker 2>Movie Theater Popcorn Day, so you got a free large

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<v Speaker 2>at ten dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Large was free, which is smart on their part as

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<v Speaker 3>far as marketing goes, because they know a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people that are not working that day. Hey, let's get

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<v Speaker 3>into theater.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>See, so this is how we know Balky's smarter than Ben.

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<v Speaker 2>I see free movie theater popcorn, do not make the

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<v Speaker 2>connection that it is also a holiday. And I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to check this flick out on Monday instead

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<v Speaker 2>of Tuesday to get the free I'll pay the extra

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<v Speaker 2>two bucks for the ticket, get the free popcorn turn

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<v Speaker 2>out plus eight bucks. Right, Yeah, So I go on Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>There is not a spot in the parking lot.

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<v Speaker 1>It is full. But was everybody seeing? I mean, what

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<v Speaker 2>Like? So I get in line and there's a there's

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<v Speaker 2>a mom, there's children everywhere. It was like I entered

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<v Speaker 2>a Chuck e Cheese. There's children around everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the big kids movie? SpongeBob Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>And I think there's one other cartoon out there that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not familiar with. I'm not I'm blanking on the

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<v Speaker 2>name of it. I don't know what's out there right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually the people in front of me got turned away.

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<v Speaker 2>The movie they had driven there to see was sold

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<v Speaker 2>out and they would have had to wait two and

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<v Speaker 2>a half hours to catch the next available showing of

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<v Speaker 2>what was there?

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<v Speaker 3>They do have televisions and a restaurant in there. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I could kill some time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure. I'm sure they did something and got in there.

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<v Speaker 1>So I walk up.

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<v Speaker 2>They obviously know me, and I kind of grimaced. I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a little skeptical now that I see this crowd.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, well, what is it today? And I went

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<v Speaker 2>Bone Temple and they scoff and they go, oh, you'll

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<v Speaker 2>be fine, and they bring the list up and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in the Imax theater. Oh wow, three seats are taken.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so you could stretch out in a packed thea

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<v Speaker 2>in a packed building, pack building.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody had any interest in seeing this movie, and I

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<v Speaker 2>looked it up. And while they weren't expecting massive numbers,

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<v Speaker 2>the projection was twenty million dollars nationwide. In terms of

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<v Speaker 2>box office, they got closer to thirteen. So it is

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<v Speaker 2>underperforming in a lot of ways, which is interesting there.

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<v Speaker 2>But I sometimes when did the last one come out?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean less than a year?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>For some reason, I know I'm wrong, but for some reason,

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<v Speaker 2>my mind says January. But we were not doing this

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<v Speaker 2>show last January, and we did this show and we

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<v Speaker 2>did that movie.

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<v Speaker 1>When it was in theaters.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I don't remember when the release date was,

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<v Speaker 2>but for some reason, it felt like it was early

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<v Speaker 2>in the year. It obviously wasn't. So if I had

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<v Speaker 2>to guess, August, does that feel right? I'm looking it

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<v Speaker 2>up right now, Yeah, it feels like August. If I didn't,

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<v Speaker 2>if we weren't recording right now, I could look up

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<v Speaker 2>which episode number it was for, uh, for the June twentieth. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, so six months turnaround. It's not that much.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was a positive reviewed. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 2>a good movie, as I thought this one was as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Not Groundbreak, not anything I hadn't seen before in a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of ways.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, okay, you say that, but I think the biggest

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<v Speaker 3>piece of information, or the biggest reveal of the continuing

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<v Speaker 3>storyline is treating the rage virus.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, did you not get just just a scent of

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<v Speaker 2>a I AM legend during that whole that that whole

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<v Speaker 2>like that wasn't that like Will Smith's Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay premise? So I guess, yes, we have seen

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<v Speaker 3>it before. Yeah, but I liked it when when I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>because you got to give you gotta give the audiences

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<v Speaker 3>new and all of a sudden Oh there's a way

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<v Speaker 3>out potentially.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, it definitely humanizes it. And I can't tell.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I know what they're going for in this flick,

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<v Speaker 2>and I like the idea, and I kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>the idea that it's almost like your your cure to

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<v Speaker 2>the rage virus, but sort of like and that's the

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<v Speaker 2>best that I can say without spoiling things, because the

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<v Speaker 2>scene when you kind of start to see people maybe

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<v Speaker 2>start to recognize things, they do it in a way

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<v Speaker 2>that you're like, man, uh, that's definitely still way stronger

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<v Speaker 2>than most humans. I mean, the alpha is a big dude.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I have his name. You're talking about the bus?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? The bus? Yeah? Yeah? You think that was real?

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<v Speaker 1>Do I think it was real? Yeah? Or imagined? Oh see,

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<v Speaker 1>I was Okay, that's an interesting thing. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I I because I was watching it, I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>if it was if this.

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<v Speaker 2>Was Oh, I like where this is going? What made

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<v Speaker 2>you think it was? It didn't even cross my mind

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<v Speaker 2>that it could have been imagine.

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<v Speaker 3>Because it's flashing back and forth between a real memory

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<v Speaker 3>he had, right, yeah, and then real life and then

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<v Speaker 3>sort of like the different characters in the scene are

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<v Speaker 3>switching back and forth between their blending memory and real life, right,

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<v Speaker 3>or they're blending memory and yeah real life right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I didn't know if I was watching something

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<v Speaker 3>in Samson's mind or if this was taking place in

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<v Speaker 3>the real world but in a very different way than

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<v Speaker 3>it was taking place in his miss I was gonna

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<v Speaker 3>ask you about, Oh God, because I didn't know if.

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<v Speaker 2>It turns out in the third movie that you're spot

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<v Speaker 2>on A, you're a genius.

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<v Speaker 3>And B I'm not a genius. Ben, I just don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm just bringing it up as a possibility.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm at the point now where if it was, if

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<v Speaker 2>it weren't imagined, I'm gonna be frustrated because I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's such an interesting plot twist on something that we

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<v Speaker 2>have seen before that I would love to see. And

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<v Speaker 2>it leaned into can we get into the first one

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<v Speaker 2>since it's on Netflix, like, can I talk about stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? When he sees what I'm assuming was.

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<v Speaker 2>His wife or maybe as a rage virus, or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>because I think he was infected fairly young in his life,

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about the alpha in the first scene in

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<v Speaker 2>the bus. He watches the pregnant woman get killed by

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<v Speaker 2>the kid who's running around with that other dweeby looking

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<v Speaker 2>guy and his mom. We watched the pregnant rage virus

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<v Speaker 2>woman get killed in the first one. Yeah, and you

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<v Speaker 2>can tell even in his most rage induced hysteria, there

426
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<v Speaker 2>is a look of recognition that someone important to him

427
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<v Speaker 2>had died and that was before any of this movie happened.

428
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<v Speaker 2>And that's what I think I love most about this

429
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<v Speaker 2>trilogy is it's starting. It's almost like several seasons of

430
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<v Speaker 2>Game of Thrones starting narratives with no interest in actually

431
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<v Speaker 2>finishing them. And given the way this one ended, the

432
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<v Speaker 2>alpha is gonna be in the third one, like without

433
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<v Speaker 2>a doubt, Like we're going to learn more as this

434
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<v Speaker 2>kind of progresses here. But there's definitely an interesting development,

435
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<v Speaker 2>like I find that they even when they are rage induced,

436
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<v Speaker 2>they can recognize humanity, which then begs the question was

437
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<v Speaker 2>Ralph finds working with him prior and we didn't see

438
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<v Speaker 2>it before the first film? Or is there that level

439
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<v Speaker 2>of humanity in every single one of these people. It's

440
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<v Speaker 2>these interesting questions that I think would really make it fun.

441
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<v Speaker 1>What do you think provoked I mean.

442
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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm assuming that this relationship we had between say, well,

443
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<v Speaker 3>i'll call them the Alpha since that's I want to

444
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<v Speaker 3>keep everybody on the same pace.

445
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Samson and Out, Yeah we have Samson is the

446
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<v Speaker 2>Alpha Alphas. The Samson Finkle is Einhorneyles second detective reference today. Anyway,

447
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<v Speaker 2>what was the first one? Haley not on the air

448
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<v Speaker 2>on my show mentioned it because of Lace's out. I

449
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<v Speaker 2>don't remember how we got there, but in the event

450
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<v Speaker 2>carry on.

451
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<v Speaker 3>So so obviously the the inspiration for him to sort

452
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<v Speaker 3>of drug the Alpha is companionship, right, Yeah, okay, But

453
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<v Speaker 3>then what provoked him to think.

454
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<v Speaker 1>That that.

455
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<v Speaker 3>He that there was still a human there was still

456
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<v Speaker 3>humanity inside the Alpha. Was it just natural observation or

457
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<v Speaker 3>did he was this something that he was trying to

458
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<v Speaker 3>really test the theory on that that there is still

459
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<v Speaker 3>like this rage virus could be cured or at least,

460
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<v Speaker 3>you know, mitigated to some extent.

461
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's a little bit of Column May,

462
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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of col Um b U. There is

463
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<v Speaker 2>a conversation and this will tie into the question you asked.

464
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<v Speaker 2>There's a conversation between the main Jimmy and Fines. We

465
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<v Speaker 2>have to talk about the Jimmy the fa We'll absolutely

466
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<v Speaker 2>get into it. But they have a pretty long discussion,

467
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<v Speaker 2>which was good. And I'm sitting there and you know me,

468
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<v Speaker 2>I'm a subtext guy, and I'm watching a Satanist, devout

469
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<v Speaker 2>religious fanatic that is actually more on the ball than

470
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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of people are willing to give

471
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<v Speaker 2>him credit. Talk to an educated doctor of science who,

472
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<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, is kind of losing it a little

473
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<v Speaker 2>bit as a result of isolation. And I was like,

474
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<v Speaker 2>what a strange combination of people to be talking right now,

475
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<v Speaker 2>So for you to ask why do I think in

476
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<v Speaker 2>my mind, based on what I was taking out of

477
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<v Speaker 2>that movie in that particular moment, I'm like, he's kind

478
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<v Speaker 2>of losing it. He has pictures of what seems to

479
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<v Speaker 2>be a wife and family that existed, and he's living

480
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<v Speaker 2>on his own in this film, and I think he

481
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<v Speaker 2>is desperate for any kind of companionship, and he takes

482
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<v Speaker 2>some pretty big chances that could have resulted in death

483
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<v Speaker 2>throughout this movie with pretty little care for whether or

484
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<v Speaker 2>not that death would have happened.

485
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<v Speaker 3>You know what he kind of reminded me of. And you're

486
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<v Speaker 3>kind of driving this home now, is in the Walking

487
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<v Speaker 3>Dad Morgan. Yeah, Morgan had this family, but he lived

488
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<v Speaker 3>on his own. You we as an audience, always thought

489
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<v Speaker 3>Morgan was gonna die, to the point where Morgan starts

490
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<v Speaker 3>his like catchphrase was I don't die, you know, like

491
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<v Speaker 3>like okay, well I guess. And that's what it was

492
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<v Speaker 3>with Kelson too, like just whatever decisions this dude makes,

493
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<v Speaker 3>he doesn't die.

494
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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, okay, but yeah, does that Does that resonate

495
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<v Speaker 2>with you then or do you think another No?

496
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<v Speaker 1>I think that makes sense.

497
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I think like at a certain point when

498
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<v Speaker 3>you're isolating, I mean, how long had he been isolated?

499
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<v Speaker 1>Do we know? Was it all twenty eight years? Yeah?

500
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<v Speaker 1>Who knows?

501
00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:31.440
<v Speaker 2>How how early on something like that happened? And I

502
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<v Speaker 2>like how this movie doesn't hold your hand, like they

503
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<v Speaker 2>don't spoon feed you stuff. They allow you to infer things.

504
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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what. I'm assuming they digitally did it.

505
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<v Speaker 2>He looks a lot younger in the photographs than yeah

506
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<v Speaker 2>than he does in the uh hair. Yeah, so it

507
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<v Speaker 2>seems like it's been a minute, not that you're running

508
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<v Speaker 2>around taking pictures ten years into his zombie apocalypse, but

509
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<v Speaker 2>based on context clues, it seems like he's been alone

510
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<v Speaker 2>for a while.

511
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<v Speaker 1>So.

512
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<v Speaker 3>I guess your mind starts to do weird things at

513
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<v Speaker 3>that point. Yeah, I mean this what what was this

514
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<v Speaker 3>thing memory?

515
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<v Speaker 1>The thing that he always says, oh, son of a gun, I.

516
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<v Speaker 3>Don't memory, mento, memento mori or whatever it was, which

517
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<v Speaker 3>is the tribute, not the tribute to the death, but

518
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<v Speaker 3>the reminder of death.

519
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<v Speaker 1>And that's why he constructed the bone temple.

520
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<v Speaker 3>Essentially, that's not normal behavior obviously, no, but you got

521
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<v Speaker 3>to occupy your mind somehow, and and so I don't know,

522
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<v Speaker 3>Like I think the Samson thing for me was just

523
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<v Speaker 3>sort of this natural progression of I I need to

524
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<v Speaker 3>do something I needed. It's we talked about this before.

525
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<v Speaker 3>Once people retire, that's when deaths start to happen because

526
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<v Speaker 3>they have no purpose of life at it. So in

527
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<v Speaker 3>order for him to have purpose of life in the

528
00:23:43.920 --> 00:23:47.440
<v Speaker 3>zombie in this particular zombie apocalypse, the rage virus, which

529
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<v Speaker 3>really isn't an apocalypse because we know it's it's quarantined,

530
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<v Speaker 3>right like the rest of the world is good the

531
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<v Speaker 3>or at least good ish, you have to have a

532
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<v Speaker 3>purpose of life, and I think his purpose is like, Okay,

533
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<v Speaker 3>I need to do something here.

534
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<v Speaker 1>I need to I need to have my work matter.

535
00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:05.480
<v Speaker 1>I need to have my life matter.

536
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anyway, And I mean, you see that in the

537
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<v Speaker 2>first movie, right he's he's diagnosing people. He helps the

538
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<v Speaker 2>young kid's name. I'm blanking on it right now, Spike.

539
00:24:16.519 --> 00:24:18.599
<v Speaker 2>He helps him and his mom or you know, for

540
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<v Speaker 2>lack of a better term, helps them. Given the tools

541
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<v Speaker 2>that he had in front of him in terms of

542
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<v Speaker 2>surviving a quote unquote apocalypse, he actually has a lot

543
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<v Speaker 2>more purpose that I would argue most people behind themselves

544
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<v Speaker 2>in Yeah, Bully, I mean, I'm sitting there. You have

545
00:24:31.680 --> 00:24:35.119
<v Speaker 2>like familial instincts to keep you running. I'm sitting there

546
00:24:35.160 --> 00:24:38.119
<v Speaker 2>watching that movie, and I'm sitting there thinking to myself, Dude,

547
00:24:38.119 --> 00:24:40.319
<v Speaker 2>there are days when I'm like, man, I'm tired. I

548
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<v Speaker 2>don't feel like going to the grocery store today. Like

549
00:24:42.920 --> 00:24:47.359
<v Speaker 2>the idea of going out and forging for food every day,

550
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<v Speaker 2>just to have to go and do it again tomorrow eating.

551
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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to live in that.

552
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<v Speaker 2>I have no I'm assuming he goes out and you

553
00:24:53.400 --> 00:24:57.279
<v Speaker 2>saw even the Alpha eating blackberries and whatnot. Clearly there

554
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<v Speaker 2>was some kind of plant life going on in the region.

555
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<v Speaker 2>The dude's not a dummy. Doctor Kelson isn't a dummy.

556
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<v Speaker 2>He picked a spot that had some food and he

557
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<v Speaker 2>hangs out there. I really enjoyed his arc.

558
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<v Speaker 1>Throughout that movie. I thought.

559
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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was well done, and it's an interesting

560
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<v Speaker 2>take befriending somebody. It's almost like a serious take on

561
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<v Speaker 2>the ending to Sean of the Dead when he's gaming

562
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<v Speaker 2>with his buddy in the who's been turned into a

563
00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:26.039
<v Speaker 2>zombie pros but they're trying to kind of maintain what

564
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<v Speaker 2>life was before he became a zombie.

565
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<v Speaker 3>It's like a more and there's there's something, there's something

566
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<v Speaker 3>still within.

567
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly, And so I thought it was a funny

568
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<v Speaker 2>take on some It's again something we've seen, but a

569
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<v Speaker 2>unique take on it that I thought was that I

570
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<v Speaker 2>thought was really enjoyable. But to be frank, those scenes

571
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<v Speaker 2>were good. But when Ben was locking into this movie,

572
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<v Speaker 2>was anytime that the Jimmys were on screen?

573
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's what I want to get it activating now.

574
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<v Speaker 3>Now Jack O'Connell plays the main Jimmy, Sir Jimmy Okay

575
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<v Speaker 3>in this brilliant actor. I feel like i'd seen him before.

576
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<v Speaker 3>I went and looked at his credits. I don't remember

577
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<v Speaker 3>ever seeing it. Interesting, and he's done a lot of

578
00:26:09.039 --> 00:26:12.000
<v Speaker 3>British television and a lot of British films, but he

579
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<v Speaker 3>has that. Oh before we get onto the Jimmy's we

580
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<v Speaker 3>talked about this on your show, Aaron Taylor Johnson with.

581
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<v Speaker 1>The was he in this movie? Yeah? Confirmed not.

582
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<v Speaker 3>And I looked at that really close because you told

583
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<v Speaker 3>me to pay attention to that. You see how I

584
00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:34.039
<v Speaker 3>could get confused totally because I was looking at it close.

585
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<v Speaker 3>But if you look at the hairline, that's what drew

586
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<v Speaker 3>me in. There's like this one shot where he's sort

587
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<v Speaker 3>of on the ground right before it happens. The hairline

588
00:26:42.440 --> 00:26:45.079
<v Speaker 3>is really high, and then you look at the facial

589
00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:50.519
<v Speaker 3>structure and it's much wider than Aaron Taylor Johnson. So

590
00:26:50.799 --> 00:26:52.759
<v Speaker 3>at that point, and then I confirmed when I looked

591
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<v Speaker 3>up the credits on this movie.

592
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<v Speaker 1>He didn't even get an uncredited assurance on this.

593
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<v Speaker 2>Without spoiling what happened on my radio show, I brought

594
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<v Speaker 2>it up with Bulk because that's a pretty mainline actor

595
00:27:01.880 --> 00:27:04.279
<v Speaker 2>who realistically was only in fifteen minutes of the first

596
00:27:04.279 --> 00:27:04.720
<v Speaker 2>one as well.

597
00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh, come on more than that, way more.

598
00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Once they got back to the city. He really wasn't relevant.

599
00:27:09.519 --> 00:27:11.359
<v Speaker 2>The mom and the kid leave but left.

600
00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:13.240
<v Speaker 1>Don't tell me he was only on screen for fifteen

601
00:27:13.240 --> 00:27:16.119
<v Speaker 1>minutes in that movie. It was much longer. It's definitely not.

602
00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:20.640
<v Speaker 3>Dude, Aaron Taylor Johnson in the first twenty eight years

603
00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:23.759
<v Speaker 3>later is on screen. Uh huh ah, hell of a

604
00:27:23.799 --> 00:27:25.680
<v Speaker 3>lot more than fifteen I'm gonna have to rewatch it

605
00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:27.640
<v Speaker 3>now and I'll get back to dude. I mean, like,

606
00:27:28.440 --> 00:27:29.920
<v Speaker 3>he's in it for the first act. He's in the

607
00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:30.799
<v Speaker 3>movie for the first act.

608
00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:32.839
<v Speaker 1>Are you talking about it specific actor, You're talking about

609
00:27:32.839 --> 00:27:33.400
<v Speaker 1>the whole film.

610
00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:35.759
<v Speaker 2>About the whole film, dude, he's in the first act

611
00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:37.920
<v Speaker 2>and then the second and third act is the kid

612
00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:39.559
<v Speaker 2>and the mom trying to figure out how to get

613
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<v Speaker 2>her health feed.

614
00:27:40.119 --> 00:27:43.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but they still flash back to him for like seconds,

615
00:27:43.839 --> 00:27:45.720
<v Speaker 3>and then he's in at the end too.

616
00:27:45.960 --> 00:27:48.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm telling it's more than fifteen minutes, saying it's

617
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<v Speaker 1>not thirty.

618
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<v Speaker 3>I wonder if you could google that. Yeah, yeah, good,

619
00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:53.759
<v Speaker 3>do me a favorite. Do me a favorite. Google Aaron

620
00:27:53.839 --> 00:27:57.880
<v Speaker 3>Taylor Johnson twenty eight years later, screen time and just

621
00:27:57.920 --> 00:27:59.599
<v Speaker 3>see what pops up. And if it's not one of

622
00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:02.359
<v Speaker 3>the top returns are one of the top results, then

623
00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:05.480
<v Speaker 3>it's going to take some more internet gymnastics to find

624
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<v Speaker 3>this out.

625
00:28:05.920 --> 00:28:09.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I will remember this conversation perfect two weeks. Well, well,

626
00:28:09.799 --> 00:28:13.039
<v Speaker 2>well I'm just gonna use AI, so take yeah. In

627
00:28:13.079 --> 00:28:16.039
<v Speaker 2>twenty eight years later, Aaron Taylor Johnson's screen time was

628
00:28:16.079 --> 00:28:20.079
<v Speaker 2>surprisingly limited, with some viewers estimating around twenty minutes, despite

629
00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:21.079
<v Speaker 2>his prominent.

630
00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:22.559
<v Speaker 1>Twenty minutes isn't much more than fifteen.

631
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:26.839
<v Speaker 3>It's more than fifteen, Okay. That's my point is like

632
00:28:27.000 --> 00:28:28.799
<v Speaker 3>you're setting the over rudder at fifteen, I'm taking the

633
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<v Speaker 3>over right, So he is.

634
00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:31.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to. I don't want to.

635
00:28:31.480 --> 00:28:34.400
<v Speaker 3>Make it seem like he is this huge, massive part

636
00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:35.400
<v Speaker 3>of twenty eight years later.

637
00:28:35.559 --> 00:28:37.440
<v Speaker 1>That was never my contention. Sure, I just.

638
00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:41.839
<v Speaker 2>Meant it was given his his his name presence. It

639
00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:45.920
<v Speaker 2>is a tremendously reduced role comparatively. Maybe they couldn't afford

640
00:28:46.160 --> 00:28:48.039
<v Speaker 2>It makes me think he's going to be a very

641
00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:50.920
<v Speaker 2>prominent role in the third one totally, because you don't.

642
00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:53.279
<v Speaker 2>You don't sign somebody like that to use them for

643
00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:55.359
<v Speaker 2>not fifteen And and.

644
00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:57.519
<v Speaker 1>He didn't die, right, right, I mean, like we know

645
00:28:57.559 --> 00:28:58.559
<v Speaker 1>he's still out there.

646
00:28:58.480 --> 00:29:01.039
<v Speaker 2>Right, and so one character during the movie who does

647
00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:04.799
<v Speaker 2>get whacked really looks like Aaron Taylor Johnson, and it

648
00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:06.720
<v Speaker 2>turns out it was not him, so I expect to

649
00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:07.880
<v Speaker 2>see him in the third movie.

650
00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:11.799
<v Speaker 3>Now on to the Jimmys. So, and this was something

651
00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:15.400
<v Speaker 3>I fell down the rabbit hole on. The Jimmies are

652
00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:16.119
<v Speaker 3>a gang.

653
00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:16.240
<v Speaker 2>Now.

654
00:29:16.279 --> 00:29:18.119
<v Speaker 3>I don't know why they're called fingers. I think Jack

655
00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:21.720
<v Speaker 3>O'Connell's character kind of talked about that, like they make

656
00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:23.079
<v Speaker 3>up a fist, right.

657
00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:25.839
<v Speaker 2>Yes, but there's seven of them, so there because he's like,

658
00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:27.759
<v Speaker 2>I needed a really strong fist, so I have seven

659
00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:29.599
<v Speaker 2>fingers still, yeah, and he will.

660
00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:34.160
<v Speaker 3>Have tryouts for this finger gang j right, like the

661
00:29:35.319 --> 00:29:40.480
<v Speaker 3>like and basically, if you kill one of the Jimmies,

662
00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:43.519
<v Speaker 3>you take that Jimmy spot. So the gang never gets

663
00:29:43.519 --> 00:29:47.559
<v Speaker 3>bigger than seven, right, It's always seven, and we see

664
00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:49.319
<v Speaker 3>some some of these fights happen in this movie.

665
00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Now here.

666
00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:53.160
<v Speaker 3>Here's the biggest thing. Do you know the inspiration of

667
00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:56.440
<v Speaker 3>the Jimmies. Yes, okay, so Jimmy and I think I'm

668
00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:59.599
<v Speaker 3>pronouncing this right Seville. Yeah, that's how i'd say it, Okay,

669
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:03.720
<v Speaker 3>was sort of like a Dick Clark British version, right,

670
00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:06.720
<v Speaker 3>he was a famous DJ in England in real life.

671
00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:09.799
<v Speaker 1>In real life, this happened famous.

672
00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:14.119
<v Speaker 3>DJ hosted Top of the Pops, hosted Jim Will Fix

673
00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:17.000
<v Speaker 3>It like this massive like he was. He was like

674
00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:19.880
<v Speaker 3>Casey Kasem, Dick Clark. Yeah, this huge, larger than like

675
00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:23.119
<v Speaker 3>Shadow Stevens, larger than life DJ. Only I would make

676
00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:24.960
<v Speaker 3>the contention that he was way bigger in Britain than

677
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:27.279
<v Speaker 3>any of those guys were in America, like Rick D's

678
00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:30.400
<v Speaker 3>or any of these guys Wolfman.

679
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:32.759
<v Speaker 1>Jack right on the ups.

680
00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:37.960
<v Speaker 3>So what happened was there was some sexual assault allegations

681
00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:41.440
<v Speaker 3>later on in his life, his lawyers and him denied it.

682
00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:43.279
<v Speaker 3>He passes away I want to say, a cancer or

683
00:30:43.319 --> 00:30:46.200
<v Speaker 3>something at an old age. I mean I think he

684
00:30:46.240 --> 00:30:48.720
<v Speaker 3>was in his late seventies or early eighties, something like that.

685
00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:52.960
<v Speaker 3>And then afterwards they all these people came forward and

686
00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:59.480
<v Speaker 3>it was like hundreds, like four hundred instances of sexual

687
00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:03.599
<v Speaker 3>assault or whatever. And Scotland Yard looked into this and

688
00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:08.000
<v Speaker 3>they found out that this guy was maybe not maybe

689
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:11.839
<v Speaker 3>like he was one inarguably one of the biggest sexual

690
00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:16.039
<v Speaker 3>predators that England has ever had, United Kingdom's ever had. Okay,

691
00:31:16.200 --> 00:31:18.400
<v Speaker 3>so this is his legacy now and they're tearing down

692
00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:21.599
<v Speaker 3>statues and taking his name off stuff that was named

693
00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:25.279
<v Speaker 3>after him during his lifetime. Like, this guy looked like

694
00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:30.440
<v Speaker 3>a he looks like a total scary ass predator.

695
00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:34.279
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, he looks like Nick Cage's character in Long Legs.

696
00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:35.079
<v Speaker 1>But in real life.

697
00:31:35.119 --> 00:31:39.119
<v Speaker 3>Now Long Legs is Okay, it wasn't Nicholas spoiler alert,

698
00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:42.079
<v Speaker 3>wasn't Nicholas Cage Long Legs. Yeah, okay, Long Legs is

699
00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:44.720
<v Speaker 3>way creepier than Jamie Seville now, just sure because he's

700
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:45.680
<v Speaker 3>a real life person.

701
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Seville is. But I'm saying, you take it like aesthetically.

702
00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:50.920
<v Speaker 3>So they made up I think it was like a

703
00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:57.000
<v Speaker 3>made for TV mini series or movie in England about

704
00:31:57.039 --> 00:31:59.480
<v Speaker 3>this guy. And I like, if you look at him,

705
00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:01.680
<v Speaker 3>he just he has that kind of yeah, he's got

706
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:05.119
<v Speaker 3>the track suits, creepy kind of like like vibe.

707
00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:05.640
<v Speaker 1>He gives up.

708
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:08.200
<v Speaker 3>But he was beloved and he donated all this money

709
00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:10.559
<v Speaker 3>and he was like like with this great humanitarian while

710
00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:13.759
<v Speaker 3>he was alive, but apparently he wasn't. And Steve Coogan,

711
00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:16.839
<v Speaker 3>who is one of my favorite actors, played him in

712
00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:21.079
<v Speaker 3>this in this uh whatever it's called this, Jimmy Seville documentary,

713
00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:23.160
<v Speaker 3>like that wasn't a documentary because it was.

714
00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:25.160
<v Speaker 1>It was. It was a drama. It was made up,

715
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:28.519
<v Speaker 1>but it was. But it's based on Like when Cuba

716
00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:32.559
<v Speaker 1>cutting Junior played OJ and I will say.

717
00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:36.440
<v Speaker 3>Uh, it was that the American Ever Story, crime story.

718
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:40.079
<v Speaker 3>You're either gonna this is either gonna blow your mind

719
00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:42.119
<v Speaker 3>or Okay, so we have to we have to bring

720
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:43.680
<v Speaker 3>it back. No, no, no, no, I don't want to

721
00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:45.440
<v Speaker 3>bring it back. I want to I want to add

722
00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:47.039
<v Speaker 3>to it because I don't know if you were aware

723
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:48.920
<v Speaker 3>of this and just didn't bring it up, or if

724
00:32:48.920 --> 00:32:50.440
<v Speaker 3>this is gonna make your jaw drop.

725
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:52.559
<v Speaker 1>But in Britain it was.

726
00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:56.240
<v Speaker 2>Actually the ending to the first movie was a controversy

727
00:32:56.440 --> 00:33:00.480
<v Speaker 2>because just showing Jimmy Seville in Britain is viewed as

728
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:02.200
<v Speaker 2>a big, big no no.

729
00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:05.519
<v Speaker 1>Like people do not bullew it hold on in Britain.

730
00:33:05.559 --> 00:33:06.960
<v Speaker 1>They don't. They don't show this guy.

731
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:09.440
<v Speaker 2>They don't reference that it happened. They don't want to

732
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:12.000
<v Speaker 2>pay any homage to him. They don't want any kind

733
00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:15.880
<v Speaker 2>of reference to Jimmy Seville. And the first movie is

734
00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:19.680
<v Speaker 2>twenty eight years later, you know when he died. Okay,

735
00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:22.319
<v Speaker 2>this is wild. This is absolutely wild.

736
00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:25.440
<v Speaker 3>The movie came out twenty eight years later after he

737
00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:31.240
<v Speaker 3>passes way, okay, so.

738
00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:32.480
<v Speaker 2>So it's okay, twenty eight years later this whole thing,

739
00:33:32.680 --> 00:33:35.559
<v Speaker 2>I think is a reference to that story in a

740
00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:38.359
<v Speaker 2>lot of way. That is making a lot of people

741
00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:41.640
<v Speaker 2>in England very uncomfortable that the diving.

742
00:33:41.839 --> 00:33:44.039
<v Speaker 3>I remember that there was a huge controversy when this

743
00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:46.440
<v Speaker 3>came out. Yeah when twenty eight years later came out,

744
00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:49.400
<v Speaker 3>and I didn't understand the controversy, right, And now I'm okay,

745
00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:51.880
<v Speaker 3>so this makes sense. And the other thing too, is

746
00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:55.160
<v Speaker 3>like the fingers are fairly young. How would they know

747
00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:58.359
<v Speaker 3>who Jimmy Siville was. I mean maybe Jack O'Connell's character would, sure,

748
00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:00.880
<v Speaker 3>because he he looks like he's like thirty ish.

749
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:03.240
<v Speaker 2>Right, right, I mean you and I not that were,

750
00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:07.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, the paragons of understanding foreign relationships here. But

751
00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:09.920
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I know a lot about a lot

752
00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:12.320
<v Speaker 2>about a famous serial killers and stuff like that. Like

753
00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:14.280
<v Speaker 2>I feel like something about this guy would have popped

754
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:16.079
<v Speaker 2>up in front of me over the course of thirty

755
00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:17.559
<v Speaker 2>eight years of being on this earth.

756
00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:19.719
<v Speaker 3>And I but he was, but but this was he

757
00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:22.599
<v Speaker 3>never went to prison for anything. Sure's you know, and

758
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:26.800
<v Speaker 3>he was never charged I mean anything that they investigated

759
00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:28.159
<v Speaker 3>him and they couldn't charge him with him.

760
00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:30.000
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what, man, his name is much more

761
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:33.239
<v Speaker 2>known now than it was probably June in America.

762
00:34:33.480 --> 00:34:36.000
<v Speaker 3>In America, yeah, I mean in Britain it's still now,

763
00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:38.760
<v Speaker 3>it's maybe less known because they're trying to erase that part.

764
00:34:39.159 --> 00:34:41.119
<v Speaker 2>It's like some Freddy Krueger ship where they just don't

765
00:34:41.360 --> 00:34:42.199
<v Speaker 2>don't say his name.

766
00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:45.159
<v Speaker 1>We can't Baltimart, right right, it just doesn't.

767
00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Isn't that funny? Now you gotta wonder because that's also British.

768
00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:50.280
<v Speaker 2>It makes you wonder all the time, like was that

769
00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:52.400
<v Speaker 2>with these Although that was a little before he passed,

770
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:55.039
<v Speaker 2>so maybe, but now I'm Jerry Potter. Yeah, that was

771
00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:57.239
<v Speaker 2>like ninety nine. I guess that was less than twenty

772
00:34:57.280 --> 00:34:59.920
<v Speaker 2>eight years ago. Maybe maybe hold on, hold on, hold on?

773
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:03.199
<v Speaker 2>When did the first film come out? Early two thousands?

774
00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:04.840
<v Speaker 2>But the first book was read to me when I

775
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:06.760
<v Speaker 2>was in sixth grade in nineteen ninety nine.

776
00:35:08.039 --> 00:35:12.440
<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, so that and Voldemort was already established in

777
00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:13.000
<v Speaker 3>the book and.

778
00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:14.400
<v Speaker 1>He was he who must not be named.

779
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:17.519
<v Speaker 2>But nineteen ninety nine was twenty seven years ago, so

780
00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:18.880
<v Speaker 2>twenty eight years ago he died.

781
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Is JK. Rowling sitting there thinking.

782
00:35:20.639 --> 00:35:23.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, but they didn't have that. They didn't have

783
00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:27.280
<v Speaker 3>they didn't have this sort of name embargo on Jimmy Seville.

784
00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:29.239
<v Speaker 3>Probably not back then. Probably not.

785
00:35:29.320 --> 00:35:30.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I think you're reading too much of it.

786
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:32.519
<v Speaker 1>You Probably it's fun to think about.

787
00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:35.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, it's it's a unique coincidence now that I'm

788
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:42.440
<v Speaker 2>kind of just putting pieces together. Welcome outside the box, ladies, and.

789
00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:43.960
<v Speaker 3>So anyway, so Jack O'Connell, his character comes up with

790
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:48.719
<v Speaker 3>this Fingers gang, right, and they're all dressed like Jimmy Seville.

791
00:35:48.880 --> 00:35:52.599
<v Speaker 3>They all have like the sort of like platinum blonde hair.

792
00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:55.039
<v Speaker 3>Some of it's real like some of them actually have it.

793
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:57.480
<v Speaker 3>Some of them have to wear wigs. And they let

794
00:35:57.800 --> 00:36:00.599
<v Speaker 3>movie meteor Man you're seeing.

795
00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:02.760
<v Speaker 1>With Eddie Murphy? Was he in that? I think? I

796
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:03.719
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's Eddie Murphy.

797
00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:05.639
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a guy looks like Eddie Murphy, and

798
00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:07.519
<v Speaker 2>the whole gang has like a they all look like

799
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:10.519
<v Speaker 2>Dennis Rodman, Like the whole gang has like that blonde streak.

800
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:12.639
<v Speaker 1>That's what I was thinking of. Meteor Man.

801
00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:15.159
<v Speaker 2>Meteor Man, the guy gets hit by Metior and he

802
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:18.519
<v Speaker 2>has the strangest combination of power. Was it Robert Townsend?

803
00:36:18.599 --> 00:36:21.039
<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe I saw it as a kid. He could

804
00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:23.119
<v Speaker 2>touch a book and for thirty seconds he knew all

805
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:25.840
<v Speaker 2>the information in the book, and then he'd immediately forget it,

806
00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:27.079
<v Speaker 2>Like it was one of those kind of.

807
00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:31.320
<v Speaker 3>Starring Robert Townsend nineteen ninety three, Uh, Marla Gibbs, Eddie Griffin,

808
00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:35.800
<v Speaker 3>Robert Gillome who was Benson from soap, James Earl Jones,

809
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:38.920
<v Speaker 3>Bill Cosby, and of course another bad creation.

810
00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:41.880
<v Speaker 1>I gotta watch this movie. It's great, dude, It's awful,

811
00:36:41.880 --> 00:36:42.480
<v Speaker 1>but it's special.

812
00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:47.519
<v Speaker 3>Listen to this special appearances by Luther Vandross Sindbad Naughty

813
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:50.440
<v Speaker 3>by Nature, Cypress Hill and Big Daddy Kane.

814
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:54.119
<v Speaker 2>Look up, look up the blonde hair like all the

815
00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:56.440
<v Speaker 2>people in the gang have like a ball of blonde.

816
00:36:56.840 --> 00:36:57.119
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

817
00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:00.880
<v Speaker 3>So, so Townsend is a mild manner teacher becomes superhero

818
00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:03.519
<v Speaker 3>after his neighborhood in DC is terrorized by street gangs.

819
00:37:03.559 --> 00:37:06.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like the Golden Lord there, it is the Golden Lords.

820
00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:08.559
<v Speaker 1>That's what these are, the white people versions of the

821
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Golden Repord. That's what I was thinking.

822
00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:13.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, it doesn't say anything in here about about like

823
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:16.679
<v Speaker 3>you know what they I'd have to watch a trailer.

824
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:19.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now we'll get into that later. Tell me your

825
00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:22.000
<v Speaker 2>interest is in Peaks.

826
00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Well like the stars of that.

827
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:25.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but in any event, so they all he clearly

828
00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:27.239
<v Speaker 2>has a has a god complex.

829
00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Seville does in this movie.

830
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:30.639
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so we have to bring this up. No, not

831
00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:33.800
<v Speaker 3>Jimmy's sir, Jimmy, Sir Jimmy. Yes, so we have to

832
00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:37.079
<v Speaker 3>bring this up. And you're a pretty attentive movie watcher,

833
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:38.840
<v Speaker 3>so you probably picked up on this the.

834
00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Beginning of twenty eight years later the first film.

835
00:37:41.400 --> 00:37:45.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a scene where this character named Jimmy is

836
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:47.199
<v Speaker 3>his is his house is being attacked, and he flees

837
00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:50.079
<v Speaker 3>into his church. Yeah, the church that his father is

838
00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:52.880
<v Speaker 3>a minister of. Okay, right when the outbreak starts, right

839
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:55.079
<v Speaker 3>when the outbreaks, and the minister is actually happy about

840
00:37:55.079 --> 00:37:57.239
<v Speaker 3>this because he feels like this is the end of

841
00:37:57.239 --> 00:37:57.519
<v Speaker 3>the world.

842
00:37:57.559 --> 00:37:58.719
<v Speaker 1>He's finally gonna get to heaven.

843
00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:01.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and he gives Jimmy, and I don't really understand this,

844
00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:04.079
<v Speaker 3>he gave Jimmy a crucifix to wear around his neck.

845
00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:06.599
<v Speaker 3>But it was an upside down Crucifix, which is obviously

846
00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:09.679
<v Speaker 3>the universal sign of the devil, sign of the devil, right,

847
00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:11.320
<v Speaker 3>So why does a minister have that?

848
00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:11.840
<v Speaker 1>You know?

849
00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:16.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, and hold on, hold on, And then so

850
00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:19.119
<v Speaker 3>he wears this throughout the he's wearing it at the

851
00:38:19.159 --> 00:38:21.000
<v Speaker 3>end of twenty eight years later, he wears it throughout

852
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:27.679
<v Speaker 3>Bone Temple, which did not I didn't understand that. And

853
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:30.079
<v Speaker 3>then I was like, so, did he become a Satanist

854
00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:32.920
<v Speaker 3>because he rejected his father? Did he become a Satanist

855
00:38:33.000 --> 00:38:35.480
<v Speaker 3>because this is what his father gave? I didn't understand

856
00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:38.199
<v Speaker 3>the Satanic thing. And then towards the end of the movie,

857
00:38:38.199 --> 00:38:41.639
<v Speaker 3>there are a lot of parallels and like obvious hit

858
00:38:41.719 --> 00:38:48.079
<v Speaker 3>you over the head, parallels between Satanism and Christianity. Yeah,

859
00:38:48.119 --> 00:38:52.280
<v Speaker 3>you know which which I I guess I don't really

860
00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:56.239
<v Speaker 3>fully understand the motive and the theme in that because

861
00:38:56.239 --> 00:39:00.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't understand why this guy became such a sat You.

862
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:01.679
<v Speaker 1>Know, yeah, I don't.

863
00:39:02.039 --> 00:39:03.559
<v Speaker 2>I think I think you hit the nail on the

864
00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:05.280
<v Speaker 2>head with your first description. I think it was the

865
00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:06.199
<v Speaker 2>lack of structure.

866
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:09.440
<v Speaker 3>It was, oh, you know what, I'm forgetting this too,

867
00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:12.679
<v Speaker 3>he did say. I think it was the barn scene.

868
00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:15.000
<v Speaker 3>I want it, or maybe it was in when they're

869
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:18.760
<v Speaker 3>in that cottage, somebody said praying to God or praying

870
00:39:18.760 --> 00:39:21.039
<v Speaker 3>to Jesus, and he said, why would you bring up

871
00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:22.079
<v Speaker 3>either one of those?

872
00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, I know what he said. It was a sea word.

873
00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:26.119
<v Speaker 1>I think he said it the sea word.

874
00:39:26.199 --> 00:39:28.800
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so he obviously and I wonder if that's maybe

875
00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:31.159
<v Speaker 3>like a play on like how could And this is

876
00:39:31.199 --> 00:39:33.480
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people's problem with Christianity, And I totally

877
00:39:33.480 --> 00:39:37.760
<v Speaker 3>get it. How could a god, an omnipotent, all knowing,

878
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:41.639
<v Speaker 3>omniscient god allow stuff like this to happen. So his

879
00:39:41.760 --> 00:39:44.679
<v Speaker 3>whole thing was, I can't believe in God because of

880
00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:47.440
<v Speaker 3>this rage virus and the way it destroyed my life

881
00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:50.039
<v Speaker 3>and all these other lives. So Satan must be the way,

882
00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:52.920
<v Speaker 3>because Satan is the antithesis of God. Yeah, maybe that's

883
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:53.360
<v Speaker 3>what it is.

884
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:56.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I took the family structure out of it

885
00:39:56.079 --> 00:39:58.800
<v Speaker 2>as well. Essentially I was looking at it as Spike

886
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:01.039
<v Speaker 2>very clearly, the little the main little boy from the

887
00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:03.920
<v Speaker 2>first one, very clearly rejects everything that Jimmy and the

888
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Fingers are right away and never even really gives them

889
00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:09.800
<v Speaker 2>a chance to kind of crack into He's scared.

890
00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:11.559
<v Speaker 1>He's scar that he thinks this is the only way

891
00:40:11.599 --> 00:40:12.079
<v Speaker 1>to survive.

892
00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:15.039
<v Speaker 2>But in exactly but in a world where he had

893
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:17.000
<v Speaker 2>both of his parents up until the time he was

894
00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:17.760
<v Speaker 2>twelve years.

895
00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Old, but he rejected his father at the end too.

896
00:40:20.119 --> 00:40:22.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're right, you know, like like there was there,

897
00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:25.679
<v Speaker 3>there was he he was he always had, at least

898
00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:27.440
<v Speaker 3>the way it was portrayed in twenty eight years later,

899
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:32.280
<v Speaker 3>he always had this sort of like I feel like

900
00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:34.920
<v Speaker 3>Aaron Taylor Johnson's character is a little He's portrayed to

901
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:37.760
<v Speaker 3>be a little overbearing. Yeah, right, but not to the

902
00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:42.119
<v Speaker 3>point where Spike doesn't still like that, Like Spike is

903
00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:45.920
<v Speaker 3>attracted to wanting to please his father and wanting to

904
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:47.920
<v Speaker 3>be a man, you know, or whatever, and wanting to

905
00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:51.079
<v Speaker 3>get his father's approval or whatever. And then something happens

906
00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:53.800
<v Speaker 3>in the first one, Are we spoiling them?

907
00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I think we're okay.

908
00:40:54.920 --> 00:40:59.960
<v Speaker 3>Now he's having an affair with Aaron Taylor Johnson. Spike's father,

909
00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:04.639
<v Speaker 3>Alfie Williams is the actor. Spike's father is having an

910
00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:06.800
<v Speaker 3>affair with Spike's I want to say teacher school.

911
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:08.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't remember how she was.

912
00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:11.400
<v Speaker 3>And he catches them, but he doesn't know his father

913
00:41:11.440 --> 00:41:13.880
<v Speaker 3>doesn't know that he knows. So then at that point

914
00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:15.880
<v Speaker 3>he leaves and he's all about his mother and taking

915
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:18.199
<v Speaker 3>care of his mother, and he feels like his dad,

916
00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:21.159
<v Speaker 3>how could his dad, How could he believe his dad

917
00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:22.719
<v Speaker 3>is doing the best he can to take care of

918
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:24.360
<v Speaker 3>his mother when he's too busy canoodling with this.

919
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:28.320
<v Speaker 2>Other parallels between the Jimmy situation and that situation there,

920
00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:28.960
<v Speaker 2>and so.

921
00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:31.639
<v Speaker 1>He never really fully embraced but he doesn't know that.

922
00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:34.599
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't know that about Sir Jimmy Spike, does not

923
00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:38.000
<v Speaker 3>know that about this is the audience.

924
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:38.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly.

925
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:40.519
<v Speaker 2>But that was definitely one of the things that I

926
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:43.480
<v Speaker 2>noticed there because so many of the fingers totally bought

927
00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:46.280
<v Speaker 2>into what was going on, whether they were scared or

928
00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:50.960
<v Speaker 2>thought it was their only way to survive, especially of them,

929
00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:52.679
<v Speaker 2>not all of them. And they kind of play with

930
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:54.559
<v Speaker 2>that quite a bit. And it's hard to get seven

931
00:41:54.599 --> 00:41:57.079
<v Speaker 2>people all on the same page about something.

932
00:41:57.039 --> 00:42:03.440
<v Speaker 3>Unless you're you're in a quarantined place where death is everywhere,

933
00:42:03.559 --> 00:42:07.159
<v Speaker 3>you're being hunted constantly. I mean, if you find anybody

934
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:12.199
<v Speaker 3>that's even if if philosophically and morally you are on

935
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:15.360
<v Speaker 3>the polar opposite of them. They are human and they

936
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:19.559
<v Speaker 3>know how to survive, and you survive in numbers.

937
00:42:18.440 --> 00:42:21.320
<v Speaker 2>In if I ever do make a movie, it will

938
00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:23.719
<v Speaker 2>be a cult. Really, I find the idea of cults

939
00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:26.639
<v Speaker 2>fascinating and how much they prey on people that are

940
00:42:26.679 --> 00:42:26.880
<v Speaker 2>in a.

941
00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:28.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's a cult. I don't think it's

942
00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:30.880
<v Speaker 3>a cult. You don't think I don't think that was

943
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:33.199
<v Speaker 3>a cult. I think, and I don't think people believe that.

944
00:42:33.239 --> 00:42:36.239
<v Speaker 3>I think the Fingers acted the way that they did

945
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:40.079
<v Speaker 3>because they felt they had no choice, like to join

946
00:42:40.119 --> 00:42:40.599
<v Speaker 3>a cult.

947
00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:42.679
<v Speaker 1>Nobody's forcing you to join a cult.

948
00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:44.960
<v Speaker 2>At one point, one of them is one hundred percent

949
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:47.639
<v Speaker 2>certain they saw Satan walking amongst them. And there's no

950
00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:48.679
<v Speaker 2>irony in her voice.

951
00:42:48.719 --> 00:42:52.039
<v Speaker 3>And that was and that was the one who, uh

952
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:55.199
<v Speaker 3>was most questioning, Yeah, not most questioning, but like it

953
00:42:55.440 --> 00:42:57.880
<v Speaker 3>clearly did not want to be a part of the Fingers.

954
00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:00.440
<v Speaker 3>She was a part of the Fingers because she felt

955
00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:01.639
<v Speaker 3>this was her best way to service.

956
00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:03.880
<v Speaker 2>It's actually a line that she says, it's if you

957
00:43:03.880 --> 00:43:05.400
<v Speaker 2>think it's better out there.

958
00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:06.400
<v Speaker 1>It isn't right exactly.

959
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:08.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which to me is what cults prey on is

960
00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:11.280
<v Speaker 2>your life sucks outside of the cult. So the cult

961
00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:13.320
<v Speaker 2>is the safe space, even though it's a bad place

962
00:43:13.360 --> 00:43:15.360
<v Speaker 2>to be. Trust me, you don't want to be alone.

963
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:18.559
<v Speaker 2>That's way worse, right, And like that's the kind.

964
00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:21.199
<v Speaker 3>Of all right, So maybe we're I think we're getting

965
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:24.760
<v Speaker 3>caught up on the yeah, on the terminology here, but

966
00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:26.559
<v Speaker 3>I think towards the end of it, in like the

967
00:43:27.159 --> 00:43:30.000
<v Speaker 3>final scene or basically the final scene, not quite the

968
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:31.719
<v Speaker 3>final scene, which we have to talk about that too,

969
00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:36.679
<v Speaker 3>where sort of everything is getting resolved, you're seeing people

970
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:41.000
<v Speaker 3>in these high dramatic moments, with these high stakes moments

971
00:43:41.320 --> 00:43:44.480
<v Speaker 3>where people are revealing to you who they are. Like

972
00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:47.440
<v Speaker 3>you can tell that these I mean the fingers were scared.

973
00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:49.920
<v Speaker 3>They were scared people, and I think like the way

974
00:43:49.960 --> 00:43:52.920
<v Speaker 3>that they treated other people, I mean that's what bullies do.

975
00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:56.639
<v Speaker 3>And bullies act out because they're scared, because they're they're

976
00:43:58.119 --> 00:43:59.880
<v Speaker 3>what do you call it when you don't believe in yourself?

977
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Unconfident? Not yeah, they're not confident, they have low self.

978
00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:07.719
<v Speaker 3>Esteem, insecure, they're insecure about themselves. And I think where

979
00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:09.360
<v Speaker 3>we saw that towards the end of the of the

980
00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:10.199
<v Speaker 3>film as well.

981
00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:13.199
<v Speaker 1>There's something to be said because he deals with mostly

982
00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:14.599
<v Speaker 1>children or young adults.

983
00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:18.920
<v Speaker 3>But he knew he knew, Sir, Jimmy knew who to

984
00:44:18.920 --> 00:44:24.280
<v Speaker 3>pray on like he knew and how did he battle

985
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:27.440
<v Speaker 3>test them? You gotta be able to kill to be part.

986
00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Of the fingers.

987
00:44:28.159 --> 00:44:31.159
<v Speaker 2>But then when you see Jimmy talking to another equal,

988
00:44:31.199 --> 00:44:36.880
<v Speaker 2>when you see him talking to doctor Kelson, like where

989
00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:39.360
<v Speaker 2>it put me mentally watching that is when I do

990
00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:42.000
<v Speaker 2>my show, I talk about the economy all the time.

991
00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:44.599
<v Speaker 2>When you put me in front of an economist, all

992
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:48.239
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, my bluster about the economy definitely changes tones.

993
00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:51.400
<v Speaker 2>And when you saw Jimmy talking to a doctor, when

994
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:54.639
<v Speaker 2>you saw him like trying to spin his satanic yarn

995
00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:57.679
<v Speaker 2>to another person who really had his own volition, his

996
00:44:57.719 --> 00:45:00.880
<v Speaker 2>own capacity to think, you could tell that insecurity was

997
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:03.639
<v Speaker 2>popping out a Jimmy dealing with somebody. You gotta find

998
00:45:03.639 --> 00:45:06.400
<v Speaker 2>the weak minded people who are confused, scared and lost.

999
00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:08.320
<v Speaker 2>Doctor Kelton was Kelson was not.

1000
00:45:08.480 --> 00:45:12.360
<v Speaker 1>That was so so. The village that Spike came from,

1001
00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:13.039
<v Speaker 1>they knew.

1002
00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Of Kelson, right, but I think he was in a

1003
00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:18.639
<v Speaker 2>pariah because wasn't it right? But they don't visit they

1004
00:45:18.719 --> 00:45:21.559
<v Speaker 2>knew about him. Yes, do you think, sir, Jimmy knew

1005
00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:24.840
<v Speaker 2>who Kelson was. Sound like okay, now, was Kelson originally

1006
00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:27.079
<v Speaker 2>part of Spike's village and he was ostracized?

1007
00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know.

1008
00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:31.639
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember the specifics about it anymore. And because

1009
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:33.760
<v Speaker 2>I know he was like viewed as like, you don't

1010
00:45:33.800 --> 00:45:36.159
<v Speaker 2>go see that exactly kind of guy. And I don't

1011
00:45:36.159 --> 00:45:38.480
<v Speaker 2>remember how he got that mo o or that.

1012
00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:41.119
<v Speaker 3>I think because of the rumors, Like I'm sure people

1013
00:45:41.119 --> 00:45:43.840
<v Speaker 3>went there, like we saw the foragers, yeah, finding the

1014
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:47.360
<v Speaker 3>chicken of the woods whatever, the mushrooms, and I'm sure

1015
00:45:47.400 --> 00:45:51.159
<v Speaker 3>they saw this guy, like what's her name, Kelly, as

1016
00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:53.440
<v Speaker 3>we found out her name was like she saw him

1017
00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:57.440
<v Speaker 3>orange skin dancing with with with.

1018
00:45:57.360 --> 00:46:00.760
<v Speaker 1>One of the infected, a huge tower of skulls.

1019
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:04.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, without context, yeah right, I'd be saying the same thing,

1020
00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:05.239
<v Speaker 3>and she's of it.

1021
00:46:05.599 --> 00:46:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Frankly, with the context, I still don't know if you

1022
00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:07.960
<v Speaker 1>want to hang.

1023
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Out with that, That's what I'm saying. And you and

1024
00:46:09.880 --> 00:46:12.559
<v Speaker 2>I are approaching this if we came across that twenty

1025
00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:15.280
<v Speaker 2>eight years from now, we have a memory of this

1026
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:18.480
<v Speaker 2>moment right now, right we remember when the super Bowl

1027
00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:21.119
<v Speaker 2>was a thing and what society was a lot of

1028
00:46:21.159 --> 00:46:23.400
<v Speaker 2>these kids, they're younger than twenty eight years old. So

1029
00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:26.000
<v Speaker 2>when you see a bone temple with no context of

1030
00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:29.519
<v Speaker 2>how life works, that has to be so much even stranger. Yeah,

1031
00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:32.320
<v Speaker 2>because maybe less to be like, yeah, you know what,

1032
00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:35.480
<v Speaker 2>you might be wrong. I don't know, because we know

1033
00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:36.400
<v Speaker 2>that's off the wall.

1034
00:46:36.440 --> 00:46:40.280
<v Speaker 3>Wait wait exactly When I watch Walking Dead, I have

1035
00:46:40.360 --> 00:46:43.880
<v Speaker 3>to remember that these young kids, they have no concept

1036
00:46:44.039 --> 00:46:46.280
<v Speaker 3>of what the world was like even talking not that

1037
00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:48.920
<v Speaker 3>we live in a zombie apocalypse, but I was talking

1038
00:46:48.920 --> 00:46:51.000
<v Speaker 3>to my kid the other day who has no concept

1039
00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:53.800
<v Speaker 3>of a world without the internet, right, you know, and like,

1040
00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:56.320
<v Speaker 3>it's so that's so bizarre even me. I think back

1041
00:46:56.320 --> 00:46:58.199
<v Speaker 3>to when I was like, right, you know that all

1042
00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:00.880
<v Speaker 3>the time in like first years of high school, in

1043
00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:03.840
<v Speaker 3>grade school before that, there's no internet, Internet.

1044
00:47:03.639 --> 00:47:06.079
<v Speaker 2>Or instant Messenger was basically texting, but you need to

1045
00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:08.079
<v Speaker 2>be in front of the computer all the time, like

1046
00:47:08.119 --> 00:47:08.559
<v Speaker 2>that kind of.

1047
00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:11.320
<v Speaker 3>Stuff, or the phones that you can take with you. Yeah,

1048
00:47:11.400 --> 00:47:13.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, Like it's just it's crazy.

1049
00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:16.119
<v Speaker 2>Which is that's probably one of the coolest parts about

1050
00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:17.880
<v Speaker 2>it being twenty eight years later, and that's to me

1051
00:47:17.960 --> 00:47:20.119
<v Speaker 2>what makes it more depressed. But that's what life is

1052
00:47:20.159 --> 00:47:22.280
<v Speaker 2>at that point exactly. And that was my point. These

1053
00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:26.760
<v Speaker 2>kids everything is gray and depressing. There's no joy. There's

1054
00:47:26.800 --> 00:47:29.039
<v Speaker 2>there's no there. I mean, there's so little joy, I

1055
00:47:29.039 --> 00:47:31.360
<v Speaker 2>should say. And it's so you have to really look

1056
00:47:31.400 --> 00:47:34.440
<v Speaker 2>for the joy in the zombie apocalypse. And these kids

1057
00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:36.360
<v Speaker 2>are brought up in it, you know, and and I

1058
00:47:36.440 --> 00:47:38.880
<v Speaker 2>forget that. And so I don't know if they if

1059
00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:41.719
<v Speaker 2>they run into this now, the older foragers, you know,

1060
00:47:41.880 --> 00:47:44.519
<v Speaker 2>they would remember a time. Oh sure would imagine the.

1061
00:47:44.519 --> 00:47:47.079
<v Speaker 3>Bald guy in the in the that trio, like he

1062
00:47:47.079 --> 00:47:48.800
<v Speaker 3>would probably know. But the other two maybe not.

1063
00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:51.639
<v Speaker 2>No, absolutely not. And I was sitting there spoiler warning.

1064
00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:54.320
<v Speaker 2>People die from rage monsters throughout this movie.

1065
00:47:54.440 --> 00:47:54.639
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

1066
00:47:55.400 --> 00:47:57.400
<v Speaker 2>You watch one guy, he goes to stab one and

1067
00:47:57.440 --> 00:47:58.960
<v Speaker 2>he just stabs too early and then all of a

1068
00:47:59.000 --> 00:47:59.639
<v Speaker 2>sudden he's dead.

1069
00:47:59.679 --> 00:48:02.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, man, that guy made it twenty.

1070
00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:04.679
<v Speaker 2>Eight years without making a single mistake, and like that

1071
00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:07.079
<v Speaker 2>little slip up results in your death. I'm like, what

1072
00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:08.400
<v Speaker 2>a way to freaking live?

1073
00:48:08.599 --> 00:48:09.719
<v Speaker 1>Are you talking about the ball guy?

1074
00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:12.239
<v Speaker 2>Uh, there's like a group of three fourds walking and

1075
00:48:12.239 --> 00:48:14.079
<v Speaker 2>they're like, don't go after me, Like we gotta get

1076
00:48:14.119 --> 00:48:15.800
<v Speaker 2>him before he sees us. And he goes to sneak

1077
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:17.960
<v Speaker 2>up on him, steps on a twig. Yeah, and I

1078
00:48:18.000 --> 00:48:20.960
<v Speaker 2>was like, man, for twenty eight years, you lived a

1079
00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:22.960
<v Speaker 2>life where you never made that miss.

1080
00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:24.800
<v Speaker 3>You don't know though he might have made that mistake

1081
00:48:24.840 --> 00:48:26.639
<v Speaker 3>before we got away, got away with that, which it

1082
00:48:26.639 --> 00:48:27.920
<v Speaker 3>would have emboldened him to do that.

1083
00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:30.400
<v Speaker 2>No, no, you don't, but I guess I mean not.

1084
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:32.920
<v Speaker 2>You don't end up pain for your mistakes. We talking

1085
00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:35.159
<v Speaker 2>to microphones for a living. I don't go a single

1086
00:48:35.199 --> 00:48:38.000
<v Speaker 2>week without making mistakes, whether flubbing up my words or

1087
00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:40.239
<v Speaker 2>saying the wrong thing and forgetting something. The idea of

1088
00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:44.039
<v Speaker 2>going twenty eight years of living a life of like life.

1089
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:45.840
<v Speaker 3>But it is different, like the consequence for us if

1090
00:48:46.159 --> 00:48:49.039
<v Speaker 3>we if we say something we didn't mean to. Okay,

1091
00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:53.000
<v Speaker 3>maybe we get reprimanded or fined or something. They make

1092
00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:55.840
<v Speaker 3>a mistake, they die. Yeah, you know that makes mistakes

1093
00:48:55.840 --> 00:48:56.320
<v Speaker 3>are different.

1094
00:48:56.360 --> 00:48:58.559
<v Speaker 2>That's and to live that way for almost three decades.

1095
00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:01.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm thirty eight years old, that'd be seventy five percent

1096
00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:01.960
<v Speaker 2>of my life.

1097
00:49:02.199 --> 00:49:05.440
<v Speaker 3>The other thing, too, is like when you when you twenty,

1098
00:49:05.480 --> 00:49:08.800
<v Speaker 3>you go by twenty eight years doing the same thing

1099
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:10.679
<v Speaker 3>and over and over and over again.

1100
00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:11.559
<v Speaker 1>Forage and whatever.

1101
00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:14.400
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, and at a certain point human nature would dictate,

1102
00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:15.719
<v Speaker 3>not that we need to get off on this. Human

1103
00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:18.239
<v Speaker 3>nature would dictate that you do take it for granted

1104
00:49:18.320 --> 00:49:21.239
<v Speaker 3>at some point, and your mind, your mind simply cannot

1105
00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:25.000
<v Speaker 3>stay one sharp twenty four hours a day, every single day.

1106
00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:26.960
<v Speaker 2>I say that about the Knight's Watch all the time.

1107
00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:28.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, so, these guys have been standing there for

1108
00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:30.719
<v Speaker 2>a thousand years waiting for white.

1109
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Wall, but they rotate, right, right.

1110
00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:34.239
<v Speaker 2>But if you've been if you've been rotating for forty

1111
00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:36.000
<v Speaker 2>years and it's your shift, you're telling me you're going

1112
00:49:36.039 --> 00:49:39.159
<v Speaker 2>to be locked in after forty years of nothing, that's gonna.

1113
00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Out of wind and snow. Eventually they're gonna sneak up

1114
00:49:43.400 --> 00:49:44.639
<v Speaker 1>on you. I think about that.

1115
00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:47.880
<v Speaker 3>But the thing is, like, they didn't sneak up right right.

1116
00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:49.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean that we're talking about when the Night King

1117
00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:52.559
<v Speaker 3>brought the Dragon. I can't Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that

1118
00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:54.840
<v Speaker 3>was that was the first time the Knights watched some right.

1119
00:49:54.840 --> 00:49:57.760
<v Speaker 1>I think so the wall fell. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

1120
00:49:57.800 --> 00:49:58.639
<v Speaker 1>That was such a great idea.

1121
00:49:58.639 --> 00:50:00.800
<v Speaker 2>You've been waiting, you've been waiting all this time, or

1122
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:03.719
<v Speaker 2>even to bring it into like a more scary realistic version.

1123
00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:06.239
<v Speaker 2>You think TSA is as locked in as they were

1124
00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:09.039
<v Speaker 2>in October two thousand and one. Of course, not like

1125
00:50:09.280 --> 00:50:11.519
<v Speaker 2>it is human nature to kind of take the foot

1126
00:50:11.559 --> 00:50:14.760
<v Speaker 2>off the gas after a while, and you're watching twenty

1127
00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:17.280
<v Speaker 2>eight years later. I almost wouldn't even mind seeing that element.

1128
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:19.679
<v Speaker 3>It's not even taking your it's not even taking your

1129
00:50:19.719 --> 00:50:23.320
<v Speaker 3>foot off the gas. It's just your muscle naturally relaxes.

1130
00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:25.719
<v Speaker 3>Your foot is not putting the same pressure on. Yeah,

1131
00:50:25.719 --> 00:50:26.760
<v Speaker 3>and you don't even realize it.

1132
00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1133
00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:30.039
<v Speaker 2>It was an interesting way to show that there, and

1134
00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:32.920
<v Speaker 2>it made me think, I'm just like man after all this,

1135
00:50:33.039 --> 00:50:35.679
<v Speaker 2>to go out just to one random walker, I don't

1136
00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:40.199
<v Speaker 2>know what to call themself, just use walker, one random walker, rajer, yeah, rager.

1137
00:50:41.519 --> 00:50:43.239
<v Speaker 2>Just what a way to go? What a way to go?

1138
00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:47.519
<v Speaker 3>Jimmy, Sir, Jimmy, do you think he picked the character,

1139
00:50:48.360 --> 00:50:53.119
<v Speaker 3>not the character, the role model of Jimmy Seville on

1140
00:50:53.199 --> 00:50:58.719
<v Speaker 3>purpose because he knew of this, you know, this guy's misdeeds,

1141
00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:02.400
<v Speaker 3>and he wanted to pick somebody that was so evil

1142
00:51:03.079 --> 00:51:06.000
<v Speaker 3>that this would be like the walking version of Satan.

1143
00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:08.920
<v Speaker 2>H So I was of the impression that that was

1144
00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:12.239
<v Speaker 2>supposed to be an alternate reality version of Jimmy Seville.

1145
00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:14.239
<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize that he was going to be anyone

1146
00:51:14.239 --> 00:51:14.880
<v Speaker 2>other than that.

1147
00:51:15.639 --> 00:51:17.760
<v Speaker 1>I hold on say that again.

1148
00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:20.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying I thought he was Jimmy Seville, just in

1149
00:51:20.760 --> 00:51:22.960
<v Speaker 2>a B zombie. Oh no, no, I don't. I don't,

1150
00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:25.639
<v Speaker 2>I don't. That's how I took it. I don't have

1151
00:51:25.639 --> 00:51:28.000
<v Speaker 2>anything to back that up. I wasn't thinking I don't

1152
00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:28.199
<v Speaker 2>have it.

1153
00:51:28.480 --> 00:51:29.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't have it.

1154
00:51:29.280 --> 00:51:33.599
<v Speaker 3>I just feel like like he inspired Jimmy Seville, inspired

1155
00:51:33.639 --> 00:51:34.199
<v Speaker 3>Sir Jimmy.

1156
00:51:34.440 --> 00:51:38.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh thought he was Jimmy Seville. But twenty eight years later,

1157
00:51:38.239 --> 00:51:42.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, no, he couldn't be that young.

1158
00:51:42.920 --> 00:51:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't know. I got nothing.

1159
00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:46.920
<v Speaker 2>I got nothing. That's the way that I took it.

1160
00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:49.239
<v Speaker 2>And they were just trying to portray that evil again

1161
00:51:49.320 --> 00:51:52.159
<v Speaker 2>but in a different version, taking advantage of young people.

1162
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:54.199
<v Speaker 2>Like it's just you kind of see the one to

1163
00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:58.920
<v Speaker 2>one parallels there now the final scene, Yeah we got

1164
00:51:58.920 --> 00:51:59.639
<v Speaker 2>tread lightley here.

1165
00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll go hees. So I was gonna ask you,

1166
00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:05.599
<v Speaker 1>how surprised were you? A little bit? A little just

1167
00:52:05.639 --> 00:52:08.360
<v Speaker 1>a little Yeah, A lot of movies go that route.

1168
00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:10.159
<v Speaker 2>I'll say that I think that's the lot of a

1169
00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:13.920
<v Speaker 2>lot of series go that route. Yes, yes, to the

1170
00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:16.360
<v Speaker 2>point where it kind of is losing its luster. Not

1171
00:52:16.440 --> 00:52:18.320
<v Speaker 2>to say that I wouldn't see the third one, but

1172
00:52:18.400 --> 00:52:21.079
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, this feels like the natural progression

1173
00:52:21.079 --> 00:52:21.519
<v Speaker 2>of things.

1174
00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:25.599
<v Speaker 1>This feels about right all right. So so I knew.

1175
00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:31.519
<v Speaker 3>This happening because of my relentless research of a film

1176
00:52:31.559 --> 00:52:34.280
<v Speaker 3>before I watch it, okay, And I actually found out

1177
00:52:34.400 --> 00:52:38.039
<v Speaker 3>because of what kind of what you said about Aaron

1178
00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:41.320
<v Speaker 3>Taylor Johnson, and I went to see if he was

1179
00:52:41.760 --> 00:52:45.199
<v Speaker 3>sure listed, and then of course in my exhaustive research

1180
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:50.239
<v Speaker 3>of the cast, I phoned out, oh, okay, so we're

1181
00:52:50.239 --> 00:52:52.559
<v Speaker 3>gonna do this now. One of the great things about

1182
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:55.400
<v Speaker 3>that is you forget about it until it actually happens

1183
00:52:55.400 --> 00:52:56.960
<v Speaker 3>on of course, Oh okay, cool.

1184
00:52:57.039 --> 00:52:59.360
<v Speaker 1>So you're still kind of surprised a little bit.

1185
00:53:00.400 --> 00:53:02.000
<v Speaker 2>And it's a good way to give an ending to

1186
00:53:02.079 --> 00:53:04.280
<v Speaker 2>a film and still leave me wanting because nothing's worse.

1187
00:53:04.360 --> 00:53:05.039
<v Speaker 1>You're coming back.

1188
00:53:05.679 --> 00:53:10.599
<v Speaker 3>It's it's it's it's one of those things where you understand,

1189
00:53:10.599 --> 00:53:14.159
<v Speaker 3>this is a series, this is a this is a

1190
00:53:14.199 --> 00:53:18.320
<v Speaker 3>story of beats and arcs, right, that is that is

1191
00:53:18.519 --> 00:53:23.519
<v Speaker 3>coming back together for everything you've seen into this next film,

1192
00:53:24.119 --> 00:53:28.079
<v Speaker 3>not unlike in a much smaller scale of Endgame, where

1193
00:53:28.079 --> 00:53:31.119
<v Speaker 3>you have all these different stories, Yes, all these different

1194
00:53:31.239 --> 00:53:34.119
<v Speaker 3>arcs and there we're gonna bring them together here.

1195
00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:37.239
<v Speaker 2>But the difference being though, and I'm not saying that

1196
00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:39.079
<v Speaker 2>it was bad for this, but it's it's just a

1197
00:53:39.119 --> 00:53:43.119
<v Speaker 2>different approach. I felt like there was an aura of

1198
00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:47.199
<v Speaker 2>resolution in the Bone Temple, despite knowing there's still more story.

1199
00:53:47.280 --> 00:53:49.719
<v Speaker 2>That story that we watched was resolved.

1200
00:53:50.039 --> 00:53:52.119
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying that it wasn't.

1201
00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:55.639
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, but I'm saying Infinity War was absolutely not resolved.

1202
00:53:55.920 --> 00:53:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Wait a minute, What the what the hell happened? I

1203
00:53:57.880 --> 00:53:58.159
<v Speaker 1>was talking?

1204
00:53:58.199 --> 00:54:00.280
<v Speaker 3>I was talking more of Endgame, right, But there is

1205
00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:02.320
<v Speaker 3>a lot of resolution in that, yes.

1206
00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:04.559
<v Speaker 2>But the cliffhanger one, Like I'm saying this is technically

1207
00:54:04.559 --> 00:54:08.360
<v Speaker 2>a cliffhanger. This has me saying, oh, well, hell, integrate this.

1208
00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:09.559
<v Speaker 1>I think that.

1209
00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:12.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I wouldn't call it a cliff But why

1210
00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:15.079
<v Speaker 3>didn't you say that final scene two of the characters

1211
00:54:15.639 --> 00:54:18.360
<v Speaker 3>were on a cliff, I mean, on a quasi cliff.

1212
00:54:19.000 --> 00:54:21.159
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I at least that's how I took it.

1213
00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:24.360
<v Speaker 2>But like I say that to say, it still feels

1214
00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:27.280
<v Speaker 2>like they didn't leave there's dangling threads, but I didn't

1215
00:54:27.320 --> 00:54:30.559
<v Speaker 2>feel like a story was left untold, like and I

1216
00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:33.480
<v Speaker 2>think there's a really yes, I mean no, there's still

1217
00:54:33.519 --> 00:54:35.039
<v Speaker 2>more to be told. But I'm but.

1218
00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:37.960
<v Speaker 3>If if if you knew, like if you assume, like

1219
00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:39.599
<v Speaker 3>if you didn't know about a sequel, you'll be like, yeah,

1220
00:54:39.599 --> 00:54:42.039
<v Speaker 3>I'm good with I mean, take out that final scene.

1221
00:54:42.400 --> 00:54:45.440
<v Speaker 3>You're good with resolving like the way that the Bone

1222
00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:48.599
<v Speaker 3>Temple sort of ended that scene. You're good with the

1223
00:54:48.599 --> 00:54:49.719
<v Speaker 3>whole story being done.

1224
00:54:49.880 --> 00:54:51.880
<v Speaker 2>I get I guess to a certain you would have

1225
00:54:51.880 --> 00:54:54.360
<v Speaker 2>had to throw one more scene spike, like finding his

1226
00:54:54.440 --> 00:54:56.280
<v Speaker 2>dad or something at the end, just to give me

1227
00:54:56.320 --> 00:54:58.800
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of closure because there is some some

1228
00:54:58.920 --> 00:54:59.880
<v Speaker 2>vagueness to it from me.

1229
00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:02.639
<v Speaker 3>If you get that, well, I mean again, we don't

1230
00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:05.079
<v Speaker 3>want to yeah, but I'm just saying like that, there's

1231
00:55:05.119 --> 00:55:07.159
<v Speaker 3>there's some certain things that, yes, you could have gone

1232
00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:07.800
<v Speaker 3>a different way.

1233
00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:10.559
<v Speaker 1>By the way, I have the cast up for Bone Temple,

1234
00:55:10.639 --> 00:55:12.480
<v Speaker 1>not even the next one I have for Bone Temple.

1235
00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:14.800
<v Speaker 3>And the spoiler is I don't think they've casted Bone

1236
00:55:14.840 --> 00:55:15.960
<v Speaker 3>Temple or the next one.

1237
00:55:15.960 --> 00:55:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh sure, probably not. But the Bone Temple cast got

1238
00:55:18.760 --> 00:55:21.159
<v Speaker 2>that spoiler for you right there front and center. So

1239
00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:24.079
<v Speaker 2>it's not like, are you on Wikipedia, No, I'm on Google,

1240
00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:26.239
<v Speaker 2>Like if you're typing Google Bone temple Cast.

1241
00:55:26.320 --> 00:55:31.920
<v Speaker 1>It is the first thing that up, So don't do that, kid. Yeah,

1242
00:55:32.199 --> 00:55:33.960
<v Speaker 1>it's right there in there. I think we're doing a

1243
00:55:33.960 --> 00:55:36.280
<v Speaker 1>good job of dancing around. I think we. I think

1244
00:55:36.320 --> 00:55:38.719
<v Speaker 1>people who have seen these years could probably guess who

1245
00:55:38.719 --> 00:55:41.440
<v Speaker 1>are talking about too. Yeah, but maybe not. I don't know.

1246
00:55:41.559 --> 00:55:43.519
<v Speaker 2>I have to believe the third one will be the

1247
00:55:43.559 --> 00:55:46.320
<v Speaker 2>final one, especially with the law of diminishing returns here

1248
00:55:46.440 --> 00:55:48.639
<v Speaker 2>looking to be the way the second one is trending.

1249
00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:52.320
<v Speaker 2>I looked at the reviewers. People love this movie like

1250
00:55:52.400 --> 00:55:55.559
<v Speaker 2>it's ninety two eighty nine on Rotten Tomatoes right now.

1251
00:55:55.559 --> 00:55:57.599
<v Speaker 2>People really like this movie.

1252
00:55:57.360 --> 00:56:00.639
<v Speaker 3>All right, So I have to bring this up regarding

1253
00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:06.480
<v Speaker 3>the sequel, and let's see here. The film was announced

1254
00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:11.199
<v Speaker 3>as part of a plan trilogy. Somebody related to this

1255
00:56:11.320 --> 00:56:16.000
<v Speaker 3>movie said that the third film would only be produced

1256
00:56:16.039 --> 00:56:19.119
<v Speaker 3>if audiences go and see the second one, and audiences

1257
00:56:19.159 --> 00:56:21.280
<v Speaker 3>are not going and seeing the second one.

1258
00:56:21.320 --> 00:56:23.960
<v Speaker 1>However, December of last year.

1259
00:56:23.880 --> 00:56:26.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, twenty twenty five, so last month, Sony was moving

1260
00:56:26.599 --> 00:56:28.920
<v Speaker 3>forward with a potential third installment prior to the film's

1261
00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:33.920
<v Speaker 3>theatrical release, with x In talks to reprizes roll as

1262
00:56:34.320 --> 00:56:38.000
<v Speaker 3>X and Alex Garland is writing the script along.

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<v Speaker 1>With this person.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that seems to be the agenda here. I thought

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00:56:41.480 --> 00:56:42.679
<v Speaker 2>it was just so. I think that's the only way

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00:56:42.679 --> 00:56:45.039
<v Speaker 2>you really could have ended it. And hopefully, I'm assuming

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00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:47.320
<v Speaker 2>this goes the way we intended to. This will add

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00:56:47.320 --> 00:56:51.119
<v Speaker 2>some closure, maybe even an end to the entire pandemic

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<v Speaker 2>in general. Seems to be the way they're kind of

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<v Speaker 2>gearing up here, But.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It's hard for me to say.

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<v Speaker 2>And I wish I would have listened to our review

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00:56:58.440 --> 00:56:59.679
<v Speaker 2>the first one, because I want to give it the

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<v Speaker 2>exact same number I gave the first one. I think

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00:57:01.800 --> 00:57:04.079
<v Speaker 2>my gut's telling me like six point five seven. I

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00:57:04.119 --> 00:57:06.360
<v Speaker 2>was gonna say six and a half. Yeah, because I

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00:57:06.440 --> 00:57:08.039
<v Speaker 2>enjoyed it. I wasn't bored.

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00:57:08.360 --> 00:57:08.920
<v Speaker 1>I uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's definitely it's very thinky at times. There's long

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00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:15.000
<v Speaker 2>stretches of very little dialogue, and you're not gonna be like.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not as dark as the way that you portray

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00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:20.480
<v Speaker 1>it is. It is. I think you're you're a dark soul.

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00:57:20.679 --> 00:57:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Well maybe you're rubbing off on me now, I'm just right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think about I like to think about, like,

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00:57:25.559 --> 00:57:27.960
<v Speaker 2>think of our coworkers, think of like Carly in our

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00:57:28.000 --> 00:57:30.880
<v Speaker 2>in our promotions department, going to see that movie's like,

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00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:31.840
<v Speaker 2>what are we watching right now?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if she's I don't know what she

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00:57:33.199 --> 00:57:33.960
<v Speaker 1>likes though, maybe.

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00:57:33.760 --> 00:57:37.679
<v Speaker 2>She refuses to watch Together on Hulu, which is a

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00:57:37.719 --> 00:57:40.760
<v Speaker 2>gross movie about couples trying to live together with Dave

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00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:42.000
<v Speaker 2>Franco and Alison Bree.

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<v Speaker 1>It was great. Oh yeah, I thought, no, I did

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00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:46.440
<v Speaker 1>not see that. It's so good.

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00:57:46.559 --> 00:57:48.280
<v Speaker 3>I wickied it because I knew I was not going

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00:57:48.360 --> 00:57:50.239
<v Speaker 3>to take the time to see it. And they got

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00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:55.280
<v Speaker 3>sued by somebody because this this guy who's suing them

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00:57:55.519 --> 00:57:59.800
<v Speaker 3>pitched this idea to Frank get out of here years ago,

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00:58:00.559 --> 00:58:03.199
<v Speaker 3>years ago, and they it didn't move forward. And then

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<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden he sees this come out. Wow,

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00:58:05.360 --> 00:58:07.079
<v Speaker 3>and yeah, I don't know if there's been any resolution.

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00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:09.079
<v Speaker 1>You should see if you have Hulu, you should see it.

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00:58:09.280 --> 00:58:13.679
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I heard it's good. That would not be

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00:58:13.840 --> 00:58:18.719
<v Speaker 3>something I'm interested in, right, So I'm good, especially considering.

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00:58:18.480 --> 00:58:21.320
<v Speaker 2>So the fifteen minutes in the Barn are the entire

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00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:22.679
<v Speaker 2>movie of together.

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00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:24.639
<v Speaker 1>That's that's the Okay, look at that.

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00:58:24.760 --> 00:58:27.519
<v Speaker 3>I'm sort of if Carly, if that's her reaction to it,

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00:58:27.559 --> 00:58:29.159
<v Speaker 3>that's I would be on that, like, yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>And she, to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Is more mainstream than what you or were for me, definitely,

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00:58:33.400 --> 00:58:35.320
<v Speaker 2>it seems like to a certain extent you as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this is not meant for mainstream audiences. This is

1314
00:58:38.639 --> 00:58:42.960
<v Speaker 3>this is meant for the people who loved the first

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00:58:43.159 --> 00:58:45.519
<v Speaker 3>four movies or whatever. Yeah. First, yes, you know, like

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00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:48.000
<v Speaker 3>you don't like, oh, I'm gonna see Bone Collector. Oh,

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00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:51.679
<v Speaker 3>what's bone Collector? I keep calling phone collector bone Temple. Yeah,

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00:58:51.719 --> 00:58:53.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go see Bone Temple. Oh what's that? Oh

1319
00:58:53.920 --> 00:58:56.400
<v Speaker 3>it's the fourth movie. And they're like, no, nobody's going

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00:58:56.400 --> 00:58:58.480
<v Speaker 3>to see that. You know, you're you're seeing it because

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00:58:58.480 --> 00:59:00.880
<v Speaker 3>he saw the first, the last one at least at

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00:59:00.920 --> 00:59:03.199
<v Speaker 3>a minimum. Yeah, and probably the other two.

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00:59:03.360 --> 00:59:03.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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00:59:03.639 --> 00:59:05.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't know who's watching the third and fourth in

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00:59:05.559 --> 00:59:08.519
<v Speaker 2>an installment, even though they don't directly connect without having

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00:59:08.559 --> 00:59:09.239
<v Speaker 2>seen the first.

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00:59:09.320 --> 00:59:10.519
<v Speaker 1>But what do I know.

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00:59:10.519 --> 00:59:13.000
<v Speaker 2>There's some weirdos out there are some weirdos there. Yeah,

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00:59:13.079 --> 00:59:16.320
<v Speaker 2>but we're two of them. Yeah, right, No, that's good.

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00:59:16.360 --> 00:59:17.639
<v Speaker 2>I think we've said everything we need to.

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00:59:17.840 --> 00:59:18.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think there's we touched on the Jimmy's we

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00:59:20.400 --> 00:59:24.119
<v Speaker 3>touched on the ending. I felt like we didn't see

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00:59:24.159 --> 00:59:27.360
<v Speaker 3>a whole lot of character development from Spike, at least

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00:59:27.360 --> 00:59:28.920
<v Speaker 3>compared to what we saw in the first one.

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00:59:29.159 --> 00:59:31.679
<v Speaker 1>No, Yeah, but there is a lot.

1337
00:59:31.719 --> 00:59:34.239
<v Speaker 3>There's a bigger story to tell with Kelson and obviously

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00:59:34.280 --> 00:59:36.039
<v Speaker 3>with Sir Jimmy and this one. I mean, those were

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00:59:36.079 --> 00:59:39.400
<v Speaker 3>the stars of this film for sure, and and uh

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00:59:39.679 --> 00:59:42.440
<v Speaker 3>not counting down the days till the next one comes out, Ben,

1341
00:59:42.519 --> 00:59:43.559
<v Speaker 3>but I definitely will see it.

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00:59:43.719 --> 00:59:46.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the best way to describe it. I definitely

1343
00:59:46.280 --> 00:59:48.960
<v Speaker 2>need some closure to this one here as it stands.

1344
00:59:49.000 --> 00:59:50.920
<v Speaker 2>And I still don't even know how Walking Dead ends,

1345
00:59:50.920 --> 00:59:52.320
<v Speaker 2>So that says something about you.

1346
00:59:52.280 --> 00:59:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Don't know how Walking Dead. It's no, I stopped after

1347
00:59:54.360 --> 00:59:56.039
<v Speaker 1>all the heads. I tell you something, Yeah, I tell

1348
00:59:56.039 --> 00:59:56.440
<v Speaker 1>you something.

1349
00:59:57.280 --> 01:00:02.079
<v Speaker 3>I was that My television watching life revolved around that

1350
01:00:02.119 --> 01:00:04.840
<v Speaker 3>show for years and it went off the air what

1351
01:00:04.920 --> 01:00:06.960
<v Speaker 3>four years ago, probably, I.

1352
01:00:06.880 --> 01:00:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Can't remember how it ended.

1353
01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:11.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was not It was not memorable to me,

1354
01:00:11.159 --> 01:00:13.880
<v Speaker 3>and there's been so many spinoffs after that that it's

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01:00:13.920 --> 01:00:14.519
<v Speaker 3>just the story.

1356
01:00:14.559 --> 01:00:17.320
<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile, I haven't seen Breaking Bad in over a decade,

1357
01:00:17.320 --> 01:00:19.159
<v Speaker 2>and I can picture the last twenty minutes of that

1358
01:00:19.159 --> 01:00:20.000
<v Speaker 2>show pretty christ.

1359
01:00:21.119 --> 01:00:26.599
<v Speaker 3>There's a major difference between those two shows. Uh, Darryl

1360
01:00:26.679 --> 01:00:30.360
<v Speaker 3>Dixon is getting one final season and then that's it. Okay,

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01:00:31.119 --> 01:00:34.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm hoping Dead City is done here shortly. Yeah, and

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01:00:34.440 --> 01:00:37.639
<v Speaker 3>then I just watched that city is not bad. Dead

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01:00:37.679 --> 01:00:40.280
<v Speaker 3>City's not bad because it's like zombie Apocalypse in New

1364
01:00:40.360 --> 01:00:40.760
<v Speaker 3>York City.

1365
01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:43.599
<v Speaker 1>Sure, so, yeah, there's a lot more population there.

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01:00:43.599 --> 01:00:48.639
<v Speaker 3>There's the guy who played I think it was a

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01:00:48.679 --> 01:00:54.119
<v Speaker 3>guy who played Mallock in Watchmen the movie. Yeah, Mallock

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01:00:54.239 --> 01:00:57.840
<v Speaker 3>was the Ears guy, got it. I think now I'm

1369
01:00:57.840 --> 01:00:58.519
<v Speaker 3>mixing that up.

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01:00:58.679 --> 01:01:00.320
<v Speaker 1>He was in Fear of the Walking Dead.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that guy Matt something I can't mab. He

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01:01:02.840 --> 01:01:07.199
<v Speaker 3>was a National Lampoon Senior Trip, which is underrad movie. Yeah,

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01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:10.880
<v Speaker 3>he's in Fear the Waking. There's another guy who plays

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01:01:11.079 --> 01:01:13.840
<v Speaker 3>the crow at is his name on on Dead City

1375
01:01:14.599 --> 01:01:17.079
<v Speaker 3>and he's great. He's been in a bunch of stuff before,

1376
01:01:18.599 --> 01:01:21.400
<v Speaker 3>a well known actor, and I do believe he is

1377
01:01:21.679 --> 01:01:23.000
<v Speaker 3>of Eastern European descent.

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01:01:23.480 --> 01:01:24.199
<v Speaker 1>He's great.

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01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:27.360
<v Speaker 3>There the Dharma is in that too, and I don't

1380
01:01:27.360 --> 01:01:30.000
<v Speaker 3>know what I think she's done, mostly theater stuff, very

1381
01:01:30.280 --> 01:01:33.320
<v Speaker 3>compelling character, really cool. And then obviously you have this

1382
01:01:34.039 --> 01:01:36.239
<v Speaker 3>changing relationship between Megan.

1383
01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:42.480
<v Speaker 1>And Michelle or uh, what's her name, yea, Maggie, which.

1384
01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:45.400
<v Speaker 3>Changes, and then the second season is all about the

1385
01:01:45.480 --> 01:01:47.239
<v Speaker 3>relationship between Maggie and.

1386
01:01:47.199 --> 01:01:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Herschel her son.

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01:01:48.360 --> 01:01:51.159
<v Speaker 3>Oh nice, which and it's totally not what you'd think

1388
01:01:51.639 --> 01:01:53.159
<v Speaker 3>it's it's worth watching.

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01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:56.039
<v Speaker 1>Is it on Netflix? It's a great question. Okay, I'll

1390
01:01:56.039 --> 01:01:57.840
<v Speaker 1>see if I can. I don't think so. I'm looking.

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01:01:57.880 --> 01:01:59.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I got a fourteen hour flight on Saturday,

1392
01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:01.000
<v Speaker 2>so I got some time to.

1393
01:02:01.360 --> 01:02:03.480
<v Speaker 3>No, it's it's I know you can. I know it's

1394
01:02:03.519 --> 01:02:06.320
<v Speaker 3>obviously on AMC. It's got to be on a streaming service.

1395
01:02:06.320 --> 01:02:06.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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01:02:08.559 --> 01:02:11.719
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of a two week hiatus, okay, So so we

1397
01:02:11.760 --> 01:02:14.719
<v Speaker 2>are not recording now, no new podcast the next two weeks.

1398
01:02:14.840 --> 01:02:16.719
<v Speaker 1>We'll come back February.

1399
01:02:16.360 --> 01:02:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Eleventh, will record twelfth. It'll be posted now. I don't

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01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:23.000
<v Speaker 2>know what you want to do. I have one suggestion, Hey,

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01:02:23.000 --> 01:02:27.679
<v Speaker 2>go ahead. I'm very intrigued by this Chris Pratt Mercy movie.

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01:02:27.800 --> 01:02:29.039
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that was one of them. I was going to

1403
01:02:29.079 --> 01:02:29.400
<v Speaker 1>bring up.

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01:02:29.480 --> 01:02:31.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that is coming out Friday, and I have

1405
01:02:31.559 --> 01:02:33.960
<v Speaker 2>to believe, even though it's not Marvel, a Chris Pratt

1406
01:02:34.119 --> 01:02:36.880
<v Speaker 2>movie will last longer than two weeks in theaters. But

1407
01:02:37.039 --> 01:02:38.760
<v Speaker 2>if it's not, then we got to have a backup

1408
01:02:38.800 --> 01:02:40.599
<v Speaker 2>play I'm here, which I don't know if you want

1409
01:02:40.639 --> 01:02:42.280
<v Speaker 2>to share one on the air here, yeah, hit me

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01:02:42.360 --> 01:02:42.639
<v Speaker 2>with it.

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01:02:42.719 --> 01:02:44.840
<v Speaker 3>So, okay, So there were several when I was looking

1412
01:02:44.840 --> 01:02:49.119
<v Speaker 3>through this, okay, as far as as far as.

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01:02:50.239 --> 01:02:53.239
<v Speaker 1>Come on, why is this God bless Amica?

1414
01:02:53.400 --> 01:02:56.079
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, hold on, he'd never survived through right,

1415
01:02:57.800 --> 01:02:58.679
<v Speaker 2>where's the Wi fi?

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01:02:58.760 --> 01:03:09.360
<v Speaker 1>And exactly? Okay? Which one you just mentioned? Mercy? Mercy? Right? Yeah? Okay,

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01:03:09.559 --> 01:03:11.400
<v Speaker 1>So the other ones I had were.

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01:03:11.920 --> 01:03:15.119
<v Speaker 2>Don't let them build the data centers guys while we're looking,

1419
01:03:15.199 --> 01:03:17.440
<v Speaker 2>because that's we're headed towards mercy if we do that. So,

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01:03:20.280 --> 01:03:21.760
<v Speaker 2>beginning to think he didn't have one.

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01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:24.480
<v Speaker 3>Mercy, No, yea, I know I had several. I had

1422
01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:28.519
<v Speaker 3>several Return to Silent Hill, okayuld you like that? I

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01:03:28.519 --> 01:03:30.920
<v Speaker 3>mean that that to me? This this I mean real.

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01:03:31.360 --> 01:03:33.920
<v Speaker 1>The movies never did it for me, The games terrifying,

1425
01:03:33.920 --> 01:03:34.599
<v Speaker 1>but I'd watch it.

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01:03:34.639 --> 01:03:37.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean, well, we don't have to there's other ones.

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01:03:37.880 --> 01:03:39.840
<v Speaker 3>This one, yeah, is the one I was thinking of.

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01:03:40.320 --> 01:03:43.599
<v Speaker 3>Rachel McAdams, Oh help, Yeah.

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01:03:43.440 --> 01:03:45.719
<v Speaker 2>Dude, I love This is the first R rated Sam

1430
01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Raimie movie and over two decades, and I love Sam

1431
01:03:48.519 --> 01:03:51.480
<v Speaker 2>raimi Uh so you could talk. I was actually disappointed

1432
01:03:51.480 --> 01:03:53.199
<v Speaker 2>that I was leaving because of that.

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01:03:53.360 --> 01:03:55.480
<v Speaker 3>Now hold on, that should be the backup because that

1434
01:03:55.519 --> 01:03:58.440
<v Speaker 3>one doesn't come out till the thirtieth Okay, so mercy

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01:03:58.440 --> 01:04:00.000
<v Speaker 3>and then we'll have time to catch that later.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Perfect.

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01:04:01.159 --> 01:04:04.679
<v Speaker 3>And then the only other ones I saw I think

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01:04:04.679 --> 01:04:05.599
<v Speaker 3>that I think that was it.

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01:04:05.719 --> 01:04:08.400
<v Speaker 2>Actually, yeah, the only other other one I'd consider is Whistle,

1440
01:04:08.480 --> 01:04:10.760
<v Speaker 2>but that's really not a bulky movie. But the fact

1441
01:04:10.760 --> 01:04:12.800
<v Speaker 2>that you what you told me about Whistle with the

1442
01:04:12.840 --> 01:04:15.000
<v Speaker 2>as tech whistle that you blow into it feels like

1443
01:04:15.039 --> 01:04:15.559
<v Speaker 2>a spin on.

1444
01:04:16.079 --> 01:04:18.000
<v Speaker 3>It seems like, oh, I know the other one, this

1445
01:04:18.280 --> 01:04:19.920
<v Speaker 3>it comes out, we can we can push it back.

1446
01:04:21.039 --> 01:04:25.599
<v Speaker 3>There's the Dracula movie with Kalb Yeah Jones, that's coming out,

1447
01:04:25.960 --> 01:04:27.559
<v Speaker 3>and then The Strangers chapter.

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01:04:27.400 --> 01:04:31.559
<v Speaker 2>Three, well yeah, the original, like not chapter one. I

1449
01:04:31.559 --> 01:04:33.840
<v Speaker 2>mean like the original from two thousand and seven is

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01:04:33.840 --> 01:04:36.199
<v Speaker 2>one of the It's not the scariest movie, but the

1451
01:04:36.320 --> 01:04:38.360
<v Speaker 2>environment in which I saw. It put the fear of

1452
01:04:38.400 --> 01:04:40.239
<v Speaker 2>God in me, like it was. It was perfect. So

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01:04:40.280 --> 01:04:41.880
<v Speaker 2>I do have a soft spot for those movies. We

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01:04:41.880 --> 01:04:44.760
<v Speaker 2>can figure it out, Okay, I feel like tentatively Mercy,

1455
01:04:45.079 --> 01:04:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Mercy and the still in theater.

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01:04:46.760 --> 01:04:49.400
<v Speaker 3>And then if it's not, send help will be Yeah,

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01:04:49.599 --> 01:04:52.639
<v Speaker 3>that'll be our backup. And uh, if we do Mercy,

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01:04:52.679 --> 01:04:53.440
<v Speaker 3>will do send.

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01:04:53.199 --> 01:04:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Help the follow up that works for me. That's perfect.

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01:04:55.320 --> 01:04:57.880
<v Speaker 2>All right, Guys, enjoy the film and we'll be back

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01:04:57.880 --> 01:04:58.840
<v Speaker 2>in a couple of weeks.
