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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Bigvo Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron Tonight's

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<v Speaker 1>story doesn't come from a researcher or a thrill seeking camper.

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<v Speaker 1>It comes from a Navy veteran just back from service

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<v Speaker 1>who took a snowy drive into the mountains of western

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina and came back changed forever. No cell phones,

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<v Speaker 1>no internet, just a nineteen ninety three night on Mount Mitchell,

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<v Speaker 1>a jeep, a few friends, and something waiting in the snow.

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<v Speaker 1>Massive footprints, deer frozen in place, and the undeniable feeling

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<v Speaker 1>that they weren't alone out there. They didn't go looking

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<v Speaker 1>for Bigfoot, but something was already watching them. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the story of Greg'szapp in the night the mountains went silent.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay with us.

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<v Speaker 1>I Big That Society. We got the privilege of talking

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<v Speaker 1>to mister Greg Zapp today. Greg is an individual I

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<v Speaker 1>got connected to over on the x or Twitter platform

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<v Speaker 1>some people might know it as and we got to talking.

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<v Speaker 1>It turns out Greg has some interesting things that have

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<v Speaker 1>happened over the years. We're glad to have Greg on

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<v Speaker 1>the show here and how's it going today?

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<v Speaker 2>Greg? Very well, Jeremy, and thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>I really appreciate it absolutely, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I want to make sure that we

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<v Speaker 1>have the time for you to share what you experienced after.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we were just talking about we got a

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<v Speaker 1>little blizzard coming in here in Iowa, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna we're gonna make it through. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>feel free to take take it from here, sir, and

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<v Speaker 1>take us back to when this all started happening for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure thing. I grew up in the western North Carolina Mountains,

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<v Speaker 2>just under Mount Mitchell, and anyone familiar with the area

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<v Speaker 2>knows they closed the parkway after probably around Halloween. They

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<v Speaker 2>used to close it because it started getting heavy snows

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<v Speaker 2>past the Little Switzerland all the way up to Mount

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<v Speaker 2>Mitchell and then down on the other side going into Asheville,

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<v Speaker 2>usually about the Weaverville where you pop off the parkway

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<v Speaker 2>and go into Weaverville the back way. That's usually where

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<v Speaker 2>the gate is open again, or the parkway opens up

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<v Speaker 2>down south to Atville. My friends and I we used

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<v Speaker 2>to love to go to Buck Creek Campground. Buck Creek

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<v Speaker 2>Campground is right off of eighty, right off the parkway

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<v Speaker 2>going up to Mount Mitchell. It's Carolina hemlocks that area,

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<v Speaker 2>and it has a road at the back of the

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<v Speaker 2>campground that goes to the Parkway. Sometimes that gate is

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<v Speaker 2>open in winter and sometimes it's not. I haven't been

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<v Speaker 2>there in years. I don't know what the status of

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<v Speaker 2>it is now. When it would rain in Marion and

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<v Speaker 2>Spruce Pond, wherever we happened to be that night, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was thirty five thirty six degrees, we would always

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<v Speaker 2>go up to Mount Mitchell see if we go hang

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<v Speaker 2>out in snow. We never gave two thoughts to anything

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<v Speaker 2>else other than seeing snow. That was our entire purpose

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<v Speaker 2>for going up there. So we've done this several times

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<v Speaker 2>over the years. I'd just gotten out of the military.

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<v Speaker 2>It's March of ninety three and it was thirty four

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<v Speaker 2>to thirty five degrees down and Marion I was visiting

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<v Speaker 2>my friend. I wasn't quite out of the military, but

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<v Speaker 2>I was really close and he said, as usual, let's

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<v Speaker 2>go Mount Mitche. Let's see if can get up to

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<v Speaker 2>the top of Mount Mitchell. Okay, no problem, We're getting

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<v Speaker 2>his jeep. He had a CJ seven, very good at

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<v Speaker 2>driving in the snow, because when you go to the

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<v Speaker 2>Parkway and there's nobody there. You're the only one in

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<v Speaker 2>and out right, so I know the whole night nobody

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<v Speaker 2>came behind us. I'm skimming ahead. Sorry. That night we left,

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<v Speaker 2>we went to Bucks Creek. We got there, went to

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<v Speaker 2>the back road, got up to the parkway. The gate

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<v Speaker 2>was open, not an issue. Got on the parkway three

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<v Speaker 2>four inches of snow. It took us probably till ten

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<v Speaker 2>thirty ten forty five at night. It took us about

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<v Speaker 2>an hour to get up there from Marion. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>that bad. At the top, they usually have a gate

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<v Speaker 2>that closes off going to the welcome center and the

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<v Speaker 2>campground because it splits off in a couple. There's the

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<v Speaker 2>one road that goes to Mount Mitchell, one way in,

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<v Speaker 2>one way out up to the top of Mount Mitchell

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<v Speaker 2>from the parkway. That probably mile and a half road

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<v Speaker 2>is where we had our whatever happened, we go all

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<v Speaker 2>the way to the top, or excuse me, we go

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<v Speaker 2>as far as we can before the gate right before

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<v Speaker 2>the welcome center of the gates closed. We mess around

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<v Speaker 2>in some snow drifts because right there is where the

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<v Speaker 2>snow drifts come over. Goofed off, got in the jeep,

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<v Speaker 2>came back down the hill. As we're coming down the hill,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll I've got it marked on a GPS spot and

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<v Speaker 2>when you take out the trees you're able to see

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<v Speaker 2>how it was in nineteen ninety three, thirty two years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>It's flat right off the road, but then there's an

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<v Speaker 2>embankment that goes up, and of course the hill the

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<v Speaker 2>mountain continues going up because you're coming down the mountain

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<v Speaker 2>at that point. Just a little bit. We come around

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<v Speaker 2>the right turn and there's deer, deer tracks, deer jumping around.

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<v Speaker 2>We get out. We look at the deer tracks. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>that's cool. It's my friend and I. He's driving. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in the passenger's side. We go probably a quarter mile.

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<v Speaker 2>We see those deer deer tracks. Get out. Look that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Get back in the jeep. Go down again. I see

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<v Speaker 2>more tracks, but it looks a little bit different. And

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<v Speaker 2>I told my friend to stop, and he said, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to stop. It's just deer track. And

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<v Speaker 2>he stopped. I got out, he said, I instantly turned white,

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<v Speaker 2>trick white as a sheet. I felt. I felt immediately frozen.

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<v Speaker 2>If I just froze, I couldn't move. I was astounded, stunned,

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<v Speaker 2>and what was there was a huge footprint bear. There

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<v Speaker 2>are no other tracks. Nobody knew we were going up there.

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<v Speaker 2>It could have been a hoax, absolutely, but I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody knew we were there. I didn't give a crap

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<v Speaker 2>about Bigfoot. I never gave two thoughts to it, never,

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<v Speaker 2>never in my life. And I can just I can

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<v Speaker 2>still see it. So I jumped ran back to the jeep,

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<v Speaker 2>and he said, what's wrong? Because I was telling him, googy,

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<v Speaker 2>get out of here, to get out of here, get

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<v Speaker 2>out of here. He said what He stopped, He got out,

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<v Speaker 2>he went, He looked and I saw him his face

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<v Speaker 2>he turned white, white as a sheet. He come running

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<v Speaker 2>back in, jumped in the jeep. We took off and

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<v Speaker 2>it took about ten seconds. Wait wait, wait, wait, somebody

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<v Speaker 2>is messing with us. Somebody is having somebody's hoax and us.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a ranger up here. He's you know, he's messing

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<v Speaker 2>with us. Somebody. This can't be real. This has got

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<v Speaker 2>to be a joke. We turned back around, We go

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<v Speaker 2>back up to the clearing. We only went maybe one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred yards down the road before we stopped and turn around.

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<v Speaker 2>So we get out. We look and that whatever it

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<v Speaker 2>was with no shoes, whose feet were eighteen inches sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen inches long in the snow, was standing there with

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<v Speaker 2>the deer. So we had a spotlight. He took the

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<v Speaker 2>spotlight and went up in the tree line above us

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<v Speaker 2>and eyes flash and I crap my pants. It was deer.

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<v Speaker 2>But still it was kind of funny because like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was deer, but seeing that they were still there,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought that, I thought that whatever was with

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<v Speaker 2>the deer and whatever was watching over was watching us,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was just you just got a funny, funny,

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<v Speaker 2>funky feeling. So and looking at what the deer did.

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<v Speaker 2>They went up one way up the embankment, but whatever

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<v Speaker 2>was standing there watching get this so you can plainly

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<v Speaker 2>see it goes uphill. Now, now we did go back

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<v Speaker 2>down and grab a video camera and come back up,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll get to that in a minute, because we

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<v Speaker 2>had to document the strides of how far this whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it was, traveled, because you can't. I couldn't hoax it

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<v Speaker 2>no matter how much I tried. The the area was

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<v Speaker 2>a little flat, goes up a hill on up a

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<v Speaker 2>small embankment, so it had one foot at the bottom

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<v Speaker 2>of the embankment, its left foot was at the bottom,

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<v Speaker 2>its right foot was in the middle of the hill,

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<v Speaker 2>but its right foot was pointed towards the road, and

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<v Speaker 2>its left foot was just above it, pointed towards the woods,

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<v Speaker 2>going straight uphill. Okay, So as we looked and discovered

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<v Speaker 2>the position of everything, we think that we were so

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<v Speaker 2>freaking close to seeing him eye to eye when we

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<v Speaker 2>came around the corner, because his foot was pointing at

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<v Speaker 2>the truck coming around the corner. You know, he was

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<v Speaker 2>watching us come around. And then he jumped one more

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<v Speaker 2>step up on top of the embankment, and then he

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<v Speaker 2>took off through the woods. So one at the bottom,

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<v Speaker 2>two in the middle, one at the top. I went

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<v Speaker 2>over probably five seven feet left of him and did

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<v Speaker 2>my best to get up the hill. And there's a

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<v Speaker 2>foot of snow. There's more than a foot of snow

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<v Speaker 2>at this point, because this was an hour later and

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<v Speaker 2>on top of Mount Mitchell. So we stayed there a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good while, and it snowed pretty hard. It took

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<v Speaker 2>me eighteen steps to get up that embankment. I'm six

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<v Speaker 2>foot two, two hundred and ten pounds, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>a heck of an athlete. Still am I'm close to several. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a lazy person by any means. So whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it was had zero problem climbing up that hill in

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<v Speaker 2>three And that would have been impossible for me in

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<v Speaker 2>the dry land if it was flat impossible for me,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe not somebody else but me let alone and over

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<v Speaker 2>a foot of snow. So we haul back down the mountain,

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<v Speaker 2>grab the video camera, Grab our other friend, Jeff comes

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<v Speaker 2>with us. We all get up there and he's thinking

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<v Speaker 2>it's a hope. Well we're telling him the truth. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>this is it. This is blah blah blah, blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>We get up there, we film it. We filmed the

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<v Speaker 2>whole site, and it snowed a little bit. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a little rough. I mean, this is nineteen ninety three,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's not you know, four K ultra vision. But

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<v Speaker 2>my friend has downloaded that to Google and you get

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<v Speaker 2>a sense of you can see where it went up

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<v Speaker 2>the hill and went up to the embankment and how

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<v Speaker 2>big the size of the prince were compared to my shoe.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was wearing a size twelve boot at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>and it just was one and a half the size

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<v Speaker 2>of mine. Five distinct toes huge man. It was huge,

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<v Speaker 2>and it sank all the way down. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>did not even at two ten, two twenty. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>sink all the way down, but it did. We filmed

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<v Speaker 2>it and put it on Google. Forgot about it. My

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<v Speaker 2>friend found the tape after his mother passed, found it

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<v Speaker 2>in the garage, and ever since then I've been fascinated

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<v Speaker 2>with it. I never gave it two seconds salt. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just not been my thing. But ever since then, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't help but think how to this we came to

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<v Speaker 2>seeing one and how it really changed changed my view

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<v Speaker 2>on a lot of things. But it was pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Either somebody pulled a really good hopes or we saw

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<v Speaker 2>something up there that was unexplainable at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, Greg, that is man. It's one of those stories

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<v Speaker 1>where it's like it's so so close, man, But it

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<v Speaker 1>sounded like it really did change the rest of your life.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you did you get involved with trying to go

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<v Speaker 1>out again and have another close encounter after this at all?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? I sure did. As long as I was in

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<v Speaker 2>the area, I always would go to Mount Mitchell. That's

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<v Speaker 2>my motorcycle up there. It's just a really special place

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<v Speaker 2>because there's nobody around for miles. Well, what you don't

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<v Speaker 2>understand is when you get to Mount Mitchell there are

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<v Speaker 2>there are no turns, there are no lights, none of that,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's completely shut off in the winter, so there's

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<v Speaker 2>nothing there. And it racked my brain on who or

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<v Speaker 2>what could that do. Now we did in the summertime,

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<v Speaker 2>we went back up to speak to a ranger and

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<v Speaker 2>I said, Hey, have you ever had And I asked

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<v Speaker 2>him just a roundabout question, you know, and I said,

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<v Speaker 2>we came up here in the winter and saw something

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<v Speaker 2>rather questionable. And he kind of looked at us kind

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<v Speaker 2>of funny, like, what do you mean questionable? And I said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>big tracks and I said yeah, and he just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of chuckled and didn't say anything else about it. I

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<v Speaker 2>I've never had another experience. I've never come close. I've

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<v Speaker 2>listen to his reason and his logic and how he

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<v Speaker 2>breaks it down. And I've always had something of that

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<v Speaker 2>nature in me. And we actually have a friend who says,

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<v Speaker 2>if he ever sees bigfoot, he's gonna shoot him, and

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<v Speaker 2>I said, if you shoot him, I'm gonna shoot you.

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<v Speaker 2>And we kind of go back and forth at it,

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<v Speaker 2>but we thought it'd be a good reality show to

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<v Speaker 2>take him out and see if we couldn't find one.

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<v Speaker 2>But uh, you know, it's it's something that I just

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<v Speaker 2>believe as wholeheartedly as there we don't know everything that's

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<v Speaker 2>on this place, and that's very I don't know, that's

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<v Speaker 2>very grandiose if we think we know everything that's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>So I try and leave an open mind and who

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I agree one hundred percent. You know, you always

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<v Speaker 1>see the reports of what new animals are discovered in

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<v Speaker 1>the year and all the things down the rainforest, and

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<v Speaker 1>think we've got something in North America as well that

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<v Speaker 1>we still haven't got down yet. That that's what my

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<v Speaker 1>hope is. But is this footage available to watch anywhere?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm one hundred percent sure I can get it

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<v Speaker 2>for my friend. I mean he he did download it

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<v Speaker 2>to Google Drive and he sent it to me. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I since moved and let me look real quick because

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<v Speaker 2>I might have it if I can, I could just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you know, I did Google Earth the location

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<v Speaker 2>and you can certainly see what I'm talking about where

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's pretty cool. Sometimes. You know, people I talked

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<v Speaker 1>to they have they actually have, you know, a video,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've started to actually put it in some of

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<v Speaker 1>them our recent episodes. I mean, if if it's something

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<v Speaker 1>where you would be up for that, or if not,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's fine too.

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<v Speaker 2>I can always just yeah, I would be Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>got zero problem doing that. That would be I think

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<v Speaker 2>that'd be really cool. Yeah, yeah, totally yeah. I can

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<v Speaker 2>tell him to send that to me right now. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>I just get him on sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever heard anyone else in that Mount Mitchell

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<v Speaker 1>area having interactions or seeing weird things like what happened

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<v Speaker 1>to you guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that's uh, it's pretty much. Uh. In Bakersville

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<v Speaker 2>towards the Rhone, they have the same thing and people

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<v Speaker 2>are a lot of people are putting up their their

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<v Speaker 2>their trop cam's or ring footage, you know, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>getting some really funky stuff in the woods at night.

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<v Speaker 2>The the closest one that we have here is Little

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<v Speaker 2>Switzerland and fire Tower Road. They have a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>people that have been there for generations, you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>few hundred a couple of hundred years probably, And this

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<v Speaker 2>guy swears up and down that bigfoot comes up, takes

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<v Speaker 2>his food, takes his trash, runs through it because of

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<v Speaker 2>what he does. And it's pretty funny because it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>something that I could I could get behind here and

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<v Speaker 2>the guy speak, you know, I'm just thinking, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>can see this, and and you do get a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of questionable footage as what as to what that is?

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<v Speaker 2>People hunting? The big one is the North Carolina hunter

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<v Speaker 2>and Thanksgiving. I'm sure you've you've had to have seen

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<v Speaker 2>this footage. But he's in a tree stand and one

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<v Speaker 2>comes underneath him. And he's in Bakerfield, which is seven

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<v Speaker 2>eight miles away from us, and it's crazy what went

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<v Speaker 2>right underneath him, huge and hooping like a like an owl,

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<v Speaker 2>excuse me, like a monkey.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe I know the one you're talking about. So

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<v Speaker 1>do you know the indi sedule that was involved with that,

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<v Speaker 1>or just it's one that.

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<v Speaker 2>Gets past it. I do not. Yeah, it's just one

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<v Speaker 2>that gets past I know. I know several people that

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<v Speaker 2>claim they have it on their their ring cam, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's just you gotta you gotta wonder what's what's out

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<v Speaker 2>there because anything is possible.

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<v Speaker 1>So oh so I just kind of realize what you said.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know actual people that have the like the

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<v Speaker 1>ring cam where you just have it on your back

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<v Speaker 1>door and they've captured stuff. Yes, oh man, that's not stude.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if a ring cam has I R.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I'm trying to think somebody else said the

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<v Speaker 2>reason what it was here and over what I've heard,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not sure which one is which, but it

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<v Speaker 2>seems to be somewhat true. The they have a trouble

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<v Speaker 2>or excuse me, they don't have a problem seeing infra

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<v Speaker 2>red light. But a man in Texas was with a

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<v Speaker 2>sniperscope inside of his house and he said every time

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<v Speaker 2>he was inside using his scope and using IR he

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<v Speaker 2>could see him, but when he went outside he couldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>And he thinks that they have some they have somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>of detecting what light. I don't know. I think anything

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<v Speaker 2>is possible at this point. It's it's just blowing my mind.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've vacationed in Siberia, traveled there several times, lived

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<v Speaker 2>in Japan, and they just know it's a it's a fact.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just something that lives out in the wild, the

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<v Speaker 2>wild man, and it's you you want to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>They talk about the Almaski. That's him. Yeah, yeah, they

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<v Speaker 2>they yeah, they don't have any problems saying, yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>know it is we leave alone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. I h this is years and years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I interviewed a lady, her name is Jackie Talks. She's

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<v Speaker 1>a researcher from the UK, and she would go to

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<v Speaker 1>that area, you know, Siberia and Russia and looking for

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<v Speaker 1>the Almasti and it was so funny that the farmers

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<v Speaker 1>were just like totally confused. They were like, why are

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<v Speaker 1>you guys spending all this time and money looking for

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<v Speaker 1>something that obviously exists and we see it all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just the craziest thing to them. So I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was the coolest thing ever. But yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>good to show you perspective. But when you're in some

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<v Speaker 1>of these areas like Siberia or Japan, So you were

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<v Speaker 1>talking to people over there like, Okay, what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>weird stuff you guys got over here or things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely absolutely, And I'm a cold and snow guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always been a cold and snow guy, which is

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<v Speaker 2>why we would go up to Mount Mitchell. It was

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<v Speaker 2>never about Bigfoot or anything else. It was just cold snow.

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<v Speaker 2>So one of my places I've always wanted to go

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<v Speaker 2>to Siberia, and when I got there, I had already

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<v Speaker 2>had my incident. So I asked around when I was there, Greg,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone knows this exists. Why you ask, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>common knowledge like, not even a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, was there any any conversation like that over in

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<v Speaker 1>Japan at all? Any any weirdness?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah, you know, Japan doesn't. They don't have I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's one of the few places that does not

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<v Speaker 2>have some kind of forced giant, but they still have

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<v Speaker 2>the Kappa, which is this extreme. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>to I don't know how to describe it, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's a it's a weird animal sprite kind of I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, man, I've never had any of those experiences.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, you forget them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, but I never heard of big foot or

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<v Speaker 2>anything like that being in Ja man.

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<v Speaker 1>I think uh, I think turtle sprite is probably a

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<v Speaker 1>good way to put it. It's it's a weird it's

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<v Speaker 1>a weird crypt I remember reading and seeing about it

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<v Speaker 1>in Lauren Coleman's museum out in Maine, and there's some

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<v Speaker 1>weird stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Listeners can can do some research check that out if

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<v Speaker 1>you want. But it's it's interesting Japanese crypti culture is

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<v Speaker 1>is a interesting time. But you know, based off of.

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<v Speaker 2>This.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so a few things this area, this Mount Mitchell area.

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<v Speaker 1>First off, was it was it hit pretty hard by

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<v Speaker 1>the hurricane that went through a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I would imagine six months ago. Yeah, I would imagine

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<v Speaker 2>it was yeah, oh my goodness, it was last September. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's I would imagine they got hit. But man,

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<v Speaker 2>that place gets stormed all the time. So it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>nothing new for Mount Mitchell. But there's not many people

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<v Speaker 2>up there. I think actually it was worse at lower

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<v Speaker 2>lower elevation. I don't know, I could be wrong, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's the perfect place for one to be if you

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<v Speaker 2>think about it, in the area. You were in the

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<v Speaker 2>area I am where I am. It's it's the only

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<v Speaker 2>place where there isn't a population of people anywhere. There's

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<v Speaker 2>nobody there, you know. It's that's what gets me, is

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<v Speaker 2>is is the fact there's no one around and nobody

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<v Speaker 2>knew we were going there that night. We didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>know we were going there that night and that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's it's just confusing.

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<v Speaker 1>Are there any any stories or legends that get passed

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<v Speaker 1>down in this area about them? Do you think this

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<v Speaker 1>is a creature that's been seen for for quite a while.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when you go back and look in North Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>in this area since the nineteen early nineteen seventies. One

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<v Speaker 2>one lady here in Bakersville, which is the next town

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<v Speaker 2>over I mentioned before, same things, she saw one through

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<v Speaker 2>her backyard and for about a couple of weeks there

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen I don't know what year it was, seventy one,

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<v Speaker 2>seventy two. There were a lot of sightings in Bakersville,

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<v Speaker 2>like there was one that was just you know, walking around.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's sporadic at best. And I always thought the

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<v Speaker 2>best place to have it, do do a recrin and

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<v Speaker 2>do a research would be Mount Mitchell because there's just

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<v Speaker 2>nothing there. But you know, you've got to stay in

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<v Speaker 2>the winter time, get special permits and be allowed to

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<v Speaker 2>stay there and camp there for a couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 2>because you're not just going to walk up on something.

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<v Speaker 2>It has to find you. You're not gonna we're not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna find get you know, we all know if it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna find you, it'll find you. But I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be able to track something down like that. There's no way, no.

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<v Speaker 1>I I agree with you. You know, people think that they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do some some sneaking up on it. You're gonna

417
00:24:17.920 --> 00:24:21.200
<v Speaker 1>the moment that you're in that area, like it's it

418
00:24:21.279 --> 00:24:23.359
<v Speaker 1>already knows already.

419
00:24:23.039 --> 00:24:29.000
<v Speaker 2>It knows, it knows. It's It's very interesting to see

420
00:24:29.000 --> 00:24:32.359
<v Speaker 2>how many they have the Bigfoot Festival and Marion every year.

421
00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:36.480
<v Speaker 2>I think that's coming up in May, uh and they

422
00:24:36.799 --> 00:24:41.480
<v Speaker 2>they always have that, and my friends have We've talked

423
00:24:41.519 --> 00:24:44.079
<v Speaker 2>about it for years, about telling our story, but I don't.

424
00:24:44.119 --> 00:24:46.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't tell many people. I just don't. You know,

425
00:24:46.960 --> 00:24:49.920
<v Speaker 2>that's not I tell a few people, few of my

426
00:24:49.960 --> 00:24:53.079
<v Speaker 2>good friends know, and a lot of my good friends

427
00:24:53.119 --> 00:24:57.400
<v Speaker 2>don't because I don't. It's not that I'm embarrassed. I

428
00:24:57.519 --> 00:25:01.359
<v Speaker 2>just didn't. It was tough to tell people because they

429
00:25:01.599 --> 00:25:04.920
<v Speaker 2>instantly think you're pulling their leg or you're full of crap,

430
00:25:05.400 --> 00:25:09.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, and it's just it's I don't need that attention.

431
00:25:10.039 --> 00:25:15.640
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of it's unsettling to realize there's something there

432
00:25:15.680 --> 00:25:20.279
<v Speaker 2>that could snap me in half. And I'm just I

433
00:25:20.319 --> 00:25:24.039
<v Speaker 2>don't know. He's just I was really yeah, I was

434
00:25:24.359 --> 00:25:28.599
<v Speaker 2>freakiously aware in my I still to this day, my

435
00:25:28.680 --> 00:25:32.240
<v Speaker 2>hair stands up and I can remember it instantly, you know.

436
00:25:32.440 --> 00:25:37.960
<v Speaker 2>It's it's something that you don't forget. I never want to.

437
00:25:38.400 --> 00:25:41.240
<v Speaker 1>Did you guys send in a report to the BFRO.

438
00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:46.400
<v Speaker 2>My buddy did. He gave the same report to the

439
00:25:46.480 --> 00:25:49.839
<v Speaker 2>North Carolina Bigfoot Researchers and he sent it to me.

440
00:25:50.160 --> 00:25:54.119
<v Speaker 2>He said, hey, here's what I wrote. And you know,

441
00:25:54.200 --> 00:25:59.960
<v Speaker 2>we've never collaborated or collaborated or told stories. It's everybody,

442
00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:02.880
<v Speaker 2>all four of us have the version, and it's just

443
00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:06.480
<v Speaker 2>it's pretty cool to hear them tell their side of

444
00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:11.279
<v Speaker 2>the story because from what they saw, their perspective, you know,

445
00:26:12.160 --> 00:26:16.960
<v Speaker 2>we all had that different view. But Marty made us

446
00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:19.759
<v Speaker 2>take him up there the next day and we took

447
00:26:19.799 --> 00:26:22.039
<v Speaker 2>him up there and showed him and he was completely

448
00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:25.319
<v Speaker 2>blown away because the tracks were still there and nothing left,

449
00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:30.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, and the snow stopped, so it was preserved

450
00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:31.279
<v Speaker 2>for quite some time.

451
00:26:32.920 --> 00:26:36.559
<v Speaker 1>It's there's some intro. It's very so this is such

452
00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:40.160
<v Speaker 1>a cool example of I love it when there's a

453
00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:42.880
<v Speaker 1>person I'm talking to but then there's a report, but

454
00:26:42.920 --> 00:26:45.480
<v Speaker 1>the report is from a different person in the same party.

455
00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:49.559
<v Speaker 1>It is so cool just because there's different ways of

456
00:26:49.599 --> 00:26:53.680
<v Speaker 1>looking at things, and sometimes there's other details. For example,

457
00:26:54.799 --> 00:26:57.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, he does call out the length of the

458
00:26:57.960 --> 00:27:01.119
<v Speaker 1>tracks are about fourteen inches long, but also is seven

459
00:27:01.160 --> 00:27:06.640
<v Speaker 1>inches wide, which is a really interesting detail for him

460
00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:09.960
<v Speaker 1>to throw in.

461
00:27:09.960 --> 00:27:14.079
<v Speaker 2>Interesting. Well, so you're looking at it right there.

462
00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:15.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, I got it.

463
00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:18.799
<v Speaker 2>I got it right. So the years, the years have grown,

464
00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:21.680
<v Speaker 2>the fish has gotten bigger, would I say, like sixteen

465
00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:23.680
<v Speaker 2>or sixteen or seventeen inches?

466
00:27:24.359 --> 00:27:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, and that's I don't think, you know.

467
00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:29.960
<v Speaker 2>It could have been dependent upon a track as well.

468
00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:33.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, a different track of different spot, snow melt,

469
00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:34.920
<v Speaker 2>several issues.

470
00:27:35.519 --> 00:27:37.720
<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing is, it's like, you know, I've

471
00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:40.519
<v Speaker 1>I've experienced this myself personally, like just being out in

472
00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Oregon because I didn't make notes like I can't. I

473
00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:47.359
<v Speaker 1>found tracks way out in the woods, and I would

474
00:27:47.400 --> 00:27:50.400
<v Speaker 1>have to say they were either fifteen or sixteen inches.

475
00:27:50.519 --> 00:27:54.200
<v Speaker 1>I can't say one hundred percent because I didn't write

476
00:27:54.200 --> 00:27:54.559
<v Speaker 1>it down.

477
00:27:54.640 --> 00:27:58.200
<v Speaker 2>And that was just this last July. So wow.

478
00:27:58.799 --> 00:28:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Another cool thing is that he does say that the

479
00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:05.119
<v Speaker 1>four wheeling in a jeep, no one in the vehicle

480
00:28:05.240 --> 00:28:08.039
<v Speaker 1>had a drop to drink anytime that evening, which is

481
00:28:08.599 --> 00:28:11.079
<v Speaker 1>that's actually a super huge detail.

482
00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:14.920
<v Speaker 2>So I couldn't. I couldn't be a part of any

483
00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:18.440
<v Speaker 2>drugs or any type of none of that. And my

484
00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:21.079
<v Speaker 2>mother was hit by a drunk driver. I never drank

485
00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:24.960
<v Speaker 2>and drive never. I still don't drink to this day.

486
00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:26.720
<v Speaker 2>I just don't.

487
00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:29.079
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, sorry to hear that.

488
00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:31.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is.

489
00:28:32.279 --> 00:28:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, it's it's funny how you mentioned what

490
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:48.680
<v Speaker 1>you had said to the the ranger, because you know,

491
00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I hear you hear just different versions of that. But

492
00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:57.920
<v Speaker 1>it's almost like the guy is saying in his mind,

493
00:28:58.079 --> 00:29:00.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, come come back when I'm retired. You know,

494
00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:05.359
<v Speaker 1>we'll have a chat, because you would have You wouldn't

495
00:29:05.359 --> 00:29:08.720
<v Speaker 1>even believe the stuff that I've experienced and heard up

496
00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:09.319
<v Speaker 1>up here.

497
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:12.440
<v Speaker 2>But I can only imagine I let those guys see

498
00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:13.960
<v Speaker 2>all kinds of stuff.

499
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:23.119
<v Speaker 1>When after the hurricane happened. This is just off to

500
00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:24.480
<v Speaker 1>the side. I don't even know if I'll leave this

501
00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:28.920
<v Speaker 1>in But did you did you hear any any stories

502
00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:34.880
<v Speaker 1>going around of people having sightings after the hurricane hit

503
00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:35.279
<v Speaker 1>up there?

504
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:37.839
<v Speaker 2>I did not.

505
00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:41.240
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's something I joking once in a while, because

506
00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:43.640
<v Speaker 1>I did have someone reach out to me once. I

507
00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:47.480
<v Speaker 1>used to do a call in show and actually it

508
00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:49.920
<v Speaker 1>was weird, man. They reached They reached out during the

509
00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:54.359
<v Speaker 1>call in show and they were sharing about how they

510
00:29:54.359 --> 00:29:57.880
<v Speaker 1>had left their house and there was there were like

511
00:29:57.920 --> 00:30:00.920
<v Speaker 1>these volunteers that come in to try to help out.

512
00:30:01.119 --> 00:30:04.880
<v Speaker 1>They weren't there the homeowners, and they were finding all

513
00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:08.400
<v Speaker 1>sorts of stuff. And then as she's sharing all this,

514
00:30:08.680 --> 00:30:11.480
<v Speaker 1>the phone gets disconnected and I couldn't get back in

515
00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:11.960
<v Speaker 1>touch with her.

516
00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:16.680
<v Speaker 2>I was like that kind of.

517
00:30:16.640 --> 00:30:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Thing, That kind of thing makes you wonder. It happens

518
00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:22.039
<v Speaker 1>a lot to me. Actually, yeah, it's it's pretty wild stuff.

519
00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:30.400
<v Speaker 1>So this Mount Mitchell, when you say that there's a

520
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:33.039
<v Speaker 1>lot of space up there where just people aren't around,

521
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:36.240
<v Speaker 1>can you give us a rough estimate as like how

522
00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:39.920
<v Speaker 1>much of an area is it where there's just not

523
00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:43.559
<v Speaker 1>people out there, and it's a perfect spot for this

524
00:30:43.599 --> 00:30:44.480
<v Speaker 1>guy to be up there.

525
00:30:46.119 --> 00:30:52.599
<v Speaker 2>You go from you go from about thirty eight hundred

526
00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:59.759
<v Speaker 2>feet thirty six thirty seven hundred feet just above the

527
00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:08.559
<v Speaker 2>little Switzerland to where they they close it off. From there, nobody,

528
00:31:08.759 --> 00:31:12.960
<v Speaker 2>no business is four thirty five forty miles up to

529
00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:18.440
<v Speaker 2>the top. And if you continued on and went down

530
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:21.759
<v Speaker 2>the other side, you're looking again at another twenty twenty

531
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:25.759
<v Speaker 2>five miles, So it would probably be fifty five sixty

532
00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:29.480
<v Speaker 2>miles of nothing on a one way in, one way

533
00:31:29.480 --> 00:31:32.160
<v Speaker 2>out road right, just one road. There are no branches,

534
00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:36.799
<v Speaker 2>there are no other sub roads except for the occasional

535
00:31:36.920 --> 00:31:43.279
<v Speaker 2>fire road. And that's the state park. So I don't

536
00:31:43.319 --> 00:31:47.400
<v Speaker 2>know the exact square mileage of that state park. But

537
00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:55.079
<v Speaker 2>nobody's there, No businesses, no homes, nothing, it's not allowed. Man.

538
00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:58.079
<v Speaker 1>That's that's that's the kind of thing that makes you wonder, because, yeah, okay,

539
00:31:58.160 --> 00:32:01.000
<v Speaker 1>you got like forty fifty miles. That's a nice little

540
00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:04.920
<v Speaker 1>east of land, especially for the East Coast, where something could.

541
00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:08.240
<v Speaker 2>Just hang out and not have to unprotected.

542
00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:11.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, especially since you're saying it's a one way in,

543
00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:16.039
<v Speaker 1>one way out road, so very easy to keep an

544
00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:16.440
<v Speaker 1>eye on.

545
00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:24.039
<v Speaker 2>For sure. I really think it would be worth the

546
00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:29.359
<v Speaker 2>worth the effort to to have some type of reconnaissance

547
00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:34.920
<v Speaker 2>or show up in up at Mount Mitchell and just

548
00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:37.640
<v Speaker 2>have you know, the ability to stay there for a

549
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:40.319
<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks. I think you could get a really good,

550
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:46.359
<v Speaker 2>surprising result. It's not a well known place. People don't

551
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:49.079
<v Speaker 2>really go looking forward up there, that kind of thing,

552
00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:54.759
<v Speaker 2>So you know, the less it's sought after, I guess

553
00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:58.480
<v Speaker 2>maybe the better off it is remaining hidden. I don't know.

554
00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:01.000
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of a twenty.

555
00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:05.799
<v Speaker 1>Two Yeah, that's the thing. I mean, it's it can

556
00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:09.680
<v Speaker 1>get so interesting because it's like as humans and I

557
00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:12.839
<v Speaker 1>guess I'm just speaking for myself, I mean, we have

558
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:18.039
<v Speaker 1>that curiosity if there is you know, living in a

559
00:33:18.079 --> 00:33:22.759
<v Speaker 1>culture where we have so much information and we think

560
00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:24.680
<v Speaker 1>we have all the information in the world, and then

561
00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:27.160
<v Speaker 1>if you find out no, there's this big thing where

562
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:29.759
<v Speaker 1>you guys have no idea what's going on. I think

563
00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:32.799
<v Speaker 1>it just it just eats at us as a culture

564
00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:35.640
<v Speaker 1>and we're like, no, we have to know exactly what's

565
00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:38.960
<v Speaker 1>going on. And then another side you have to think

566
00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:42.319
<v Speaker 1>is it really the best for whatever is going on.

567
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:45.119
<v Speaker 1>If we go in there and mess it up, I

568
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:46.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know, man.

569
00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:50.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm a little I would be a little weary

570
00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:54.000
<v Speaker 2>of doing that. Just just do to why mess up

571
00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:56.119
<v Speaker 2>his home? Yeah? I mean if it is and this

572
00:33:56.200 --> 00:34:00.359
<v Speaker 2>is a species, I think why he doesn't of that?

573
00:34:01.799 --> 00:34:04.279
<v Speaker 2>You know, I can let it exist without having that issue,

574
00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:07.599
<v Speaker 2>But it's something I'd love to see and I'd love

575
00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:08.840
<v Speaker 2>to get more into.

576
00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:17.079
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely the other individuals that other individuals that were with

577
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:20.199
<v Speaker 1>you in the jeep, did this affect them at all? Either?

578
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:25.079
<v Speaker 1>Did they start becoming really interested in the subject or

579
00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:25.760
<v Speaker 1>not so much?

580
00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? They do. And we still, you know, we still

581
00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:31.679
<v Speaker 2>talk about it and make jokes about it and send

582
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:34.920
<v Speaker 2>bigfoot stuff to each other all the time. It's funny,

583
00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:38.119
<v Speaker 2>but you know, we we all have our own lives.

584
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:40.679
<v Speaker 2>We lead our lives. But still none of us stopped

585
00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:45.639
<v Speaker 2>everything and became a complete, you know, big pootoholic. But

586
00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:49.920
<v Speaker 2>we certainly have, yeah, the ability to turn it on

587
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:53.519
<v Speaker 2>and listen and be aware of other stories and encounters

588
00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:56.880
<v Speaker 2>because it makes it all tells a story when you

589
00:34:56.880 --> 00:34:59.239
<v Speaker 2>start putting them all together, that this many people can't

590
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:04.559
<v Speaker 2>be in on something like that. It's just it's too convenient. Oh,

591
00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:06.039
<v Speaker 2>it's too easy.

592
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:09.679
<v Speaker 1>In this kind of show, you know, it will it

593
00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:13.280
<v Speaker 1>will bring out other people that have had things happen.

594
00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:16.719
<v Speaker 1>And the way that you're talking about this area like

595
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:19.440
<v Speaker 1>there have been other people that have had stuff happen.

596
00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:23.039
<v Speaker 1>I guarantee it, like it is just an absolutely area.

597
00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:24.800
<v Speaker 2>You know.

598
00:35:24.840 --> 00:35:28.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that you've you've played over that night a

599
00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:31.840
<v Speaker 1>lot over the years. You probably you know, thought of

600
00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:34.239
<v Speaker 1>it a few times. Is there if you could go

601
00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:37.320
<v Speaker 1>back to that that time, is there anything that you

602
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:40.719
<v Speaker 1>would choose to do differently or have things play out

603
00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:41.719
<v Speaker 1>as as they did?

604
00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:48.639
<v Speaker 2>Uh? You know, I went up when I went up

605
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:51.719
<v Speaker 2>the embankment, I've followed through the woods a little bit.

606
00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:55.480
<v Speaker 2>I went through I don't know, maybe twenty five thirty

607
00:35:55.480 --> 00:35:58.960
<v Speaker 2>feet and I can still see the light from the

608
00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:04.440
<v Speaker 2>jeep down at the ball them. But it stepped, it

609
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:07.400
<v Speaker 2>took one step, and then it cleared a branch that

610
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:11.000
<v Speaker 2>was about four feet high and it was three or

611
00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:12.880
<v Speaker 2>four feet on the on the other side of it,

612
00:36:13.239 --> 00:36:15.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, and I had to go under it, and

613
00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:19.639
<v Speaker 2>I just remember looking up at the trees and the

614
00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:22.199
<v Speaker 2>snow was cleared eight feet now whether or not it

615
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:24.400
<v Speaker 2>was using its hands when it was walking through or

616
00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:27.679
<v Speaker 2>its head or whatever the case was. I just thought, man,

617
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:30.159
<v Speaker 2>I really don't need What am I going to do?

618
00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:32.000
<v Speaker 2>What am I going to do if I stop and

619
00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:36.039
<v Speaker 2>see it, you know, crap my pants and then what's

620
00:36:36.039 --> 00:36:38.960
<v Speaker 2>going to happen then? So I didn't have to ride

621
00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:44.880
<v Speaker 2>home with that? Yeah, I can't think of anything else

622
00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:47.400
<v Speaker 2>I would do different other than I wish. I just

623
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:51.000
<v Speaker 2>really part of me wants, part of me wants to

624
00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:54.840
<v Speaker 2>go back and just arrived five seconds earlier with the

625
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:57.760
<v Speaker 2>lights off and bang, turn them on and see what

626
00:36:57.880 --> 00:37:02.079
<v Speaker 2>he looked like. Just see what it look like, you know,

627
00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:06.639
<v Speaker 2>just was it white? Was it dark? Brown? Was it red?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it black? Was he you know? What was he?

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<v Speaker 2>Because he lives up on the mountain Mitche when it

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<v Speaker 2>snows all the time. Did he have whiter skin or

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<v Speaker 2>whiter hair, grayer hair, whatever the case may be. It's

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<v Speaker 2>It's something I would love to have seen. Maybe it

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<v Speaker 2>would have affected me different.

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<v Speaker 1>The cool thing is that you are still going up

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<v Speaker 1>there at different times of the year. When you're up there,

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<v Speaker 1>do you ever hear any noises that don't belong or

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<v Speaker 1>smell anything of the ordinary when you're up there.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I don't. And the only few times that

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<v Speaker 2>I've really stopped and you know, listened, I think to myself,

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<v Speaker 2>am I doing this? Am I wanting something? Am I

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<v Speaker 2>wanting to hear something? Am I going to make up

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<v Speaker 2>in my mind that I did hear something this time?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? Because it was so full

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<v Speaker 2>fetched for us to see anything like that whatsoever. The

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<v Speaker 2>odds are just through the room that that would happen.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's yeah, I I want to say, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>grew something, but I've never I never have never seen anything,

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<v Speaker 2>never even come closed, never heard anything. It's crazy. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just that one time and boom been looking ever since.

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<v Speaker 1>The really cool thing though about this, this whole thing,

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<v Speaker 1>is that you do have footage of what happened. It

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like and and so often you know people that

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<v Speaker 1>share their encounters, it's just it's just a memory they have.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have something tangible, if it's still you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's if it still exists. You have something tangible that

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<v Speaker 1>that he does.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to send it. You were there, so I'll

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<v Speaker 2>email it to you. Yeah, so make sure you send

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<v Speaker 2>me an email and I'll email it to you. Sure. Yeah, absolutely, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that was that, you know, that was the tale to

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<v Speaker 2>sign because he said, my friend said, nobody's gonna believe us.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to go home and get the video camera.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to go get the video camera. We got

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<v Speaker 2>to go get the video and he loved camera. So

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<v Speaker 2>bang we went go. Now instantly we went down so

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<v Speaker 2>fast and that it was raining by the time we

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<v Speaker 2>got the buck Creek, so we were able to make

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<v Speaker 2>it down the mountain pretty quick.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, that would be very interesting. Uh, I'll get you

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<v Speaker 1>that information so we can hopefully you'll be able to

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<v Speaker 1>get sent over and then maybe we can even put

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<v Speaker 1>it in this this video. We'll see if I can

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<v Speaker 1>get all the text stuff to work out. But Greg,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been it's been a real fun time chatting with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure is there anything else that

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to to to share or make sure you

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<v Speaker 1>share before we we finished out our conversation today.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing I can think of, Nothing I can think of.

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<v Speaker 2>I just if you're out and about, just stay alert,

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<v Speaker 2>stay vigilant, and I think if you do come across something,

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<v Speaker 2>I really believe it has the ability to to know

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<v Speaker 2>our intentions and know our thoughts and I've always I've

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<v Speaker 2>always kept a happy mind on those trails so that

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<v Speaker 2>you know there's no issue, and I don't. I make

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<v Speaker 2>sure I'm not invading someone else's space. It's to be respectful, right,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter what it is, you can at least be respectful.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, Well, thank you so much for chatting.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been with you. I appreciate it. Jeremie, you have

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<v Speaker 2>yourself a great day, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>Just wanted to take a moment to say thank you

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<v Speaker 1>truly for listening to this episode of the big Foot

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<v Speaker 1>Society podcast. Greg's story is one of those rare encounters

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<v Speaker 1>that sticks with you, not just because of what was

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<v Speaker 1>found in the snow, but because of how close it

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<v Speaker 1>came to being something more huge. Thanks to Greg for

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<v Speaker 1>sharing his memories from that chilling night on Mount Mitchell,

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<v Speaker 1>and for reminding us that sometimes the unexplained finds you

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<v Speaker 1>when you least expect it. If you enjoyed this conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are someone you know has had a Bigfoot encounter,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in western North Carolina around places like Buck Creek,

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<v Speaker 1>Little Switzerland, Bakersville, or anywhere near Mount Mitchell, I'd love

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<v Speaker 1>the Bigfoot Society, and until next time, keep your eyes open,

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<v Speaker 1>trust your gut, and never stop asking what else might

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<v Speaker 1>be out there just to see you in the woods.