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<v Speaker 1>I ever feel like the real challenge isn't just finding information,

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<v Speaker 1>but cutting through the sheer volume of it getting to

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<v Speaker 1>what truly matters. We definitely understand that feeling, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>exactly why we're here today. Today. We're doing a deep

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<v Speaker 1>dive into a technology that's quietly, you know, but really

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<v Speaker 1>profoundly reshaping how we interact with the physical world. Our

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<v Speaker 1>FID think of it like this unseen connector, yeah, linking

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<v Speaker 1>everyday objects to the digital realm. It's paving the way

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<v Speaker 1>for the true Internet of things, and it's much more

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<v Speaker 1>than just tracking things. It's about making items intelligent, managing

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<v Speaker 1>these like huge streams of data, keeping that information secure

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<v Speaker 1>and while unlocking completely new business value.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, I mean you look at everything from smart supply chains,

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<v Speaker 2>to fighting counterfeits, even managing a product's environmental footprint across

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<v Speaker 2>its whole life. RFID presents well both these incredible opportunities

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<v Speaker 2>and some significant challenges, and they demand really innovative solutions.

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<v Speaker 1>Right So, to navigate this pretty fascinating landscape, we've gathered

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<v Speaker 1>in sites from some world leading experts. We've pulled together articles, research.

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<v Speaker 1>We're looking at everything from the cutting edge manufacturing of

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<v Speaker 1>RFID tags to complex data systems, even real world industrial trials.

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<v Speaker 1>Our mission simple, really, to extract the most important nuggets

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<v Speaker 1>of knowledge for you, giving you a shortcut being genuinely

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<v Speaker 1>well informed on this transformative technology. Okay, let's start unpacking this.

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<v Speaker 1>When we think about the future of RFID, it's not static, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Our sources tell us its evolution is constantly driven by

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<v Speaker 1>changes in manufacturing, tech, communication protocols, new applications, all that.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's where it gets really interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what's fascinating, I think, is this shift in manufacturing itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Traditional silicon and integrated circuits. They've been the backbone. They're complex,

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<v Speaker 2>costly to make sure, but still absolutely essential for high

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<v Speaker 2>end stuff, things demanding like extreme performance, like what specifically, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I think long reading distances, loads of memory features are

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<v Speaker 2>those complex anti collision capabilities you need when you're reading

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<v Speaker 2>hundreds of tags at once.

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<v Speaker 1>Got it. But for the real mass market like tagging

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<v Speaker 1>everyday items, our sources are pointing towards something called printed electronics.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the next big thing. Apparently this means creating RFID

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<v Speaker 1>components using printing techniques like printing ink on paper, but

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<v Speaker 1>well electronic and within printed electronics. You've got a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of key contenders.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, that's right. You have organic printed tags. Polyike for example,

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<v Speaker 2>it pioneered the first high frequency organic printed RFID tag.

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<v Speaker 2>That was back in two thousand and seven, mostly for

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<v Speaker 2>simple uses, you know, brand protection, ticketing. Phillips also showed

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<v Speaker 2>off a sixty four bit tag nearly two thousand organic transistors,

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<v Speaker 2>but may its data rate was really slow, like one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty bits per second. Very basic.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so performance, what does this all mean for performance?

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<v Speaker 1>That's where silicon printed tags come in.

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<v Speaker 2>I gather exactly. Companies like Covio, they claim their end

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<v Speaker 2>type products. That's just a type of SEMICHIDOCTA material can

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<v Speaker 2>get charge carrier mobility up to two hundred and centimeters fours.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa, okay, physics acide, what does that number mean? Two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred compared to what?

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<v Speaker 2>Compare that two hundred to what organic printed electronics typically achieve,

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<v Speaker 2>which is around maybe one centimeter savvise one.

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<v Speaker 1>So two hundred is orders of magnitude.

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<v Speaker 2>Higher, precisely a massive difference, and that translates directly into

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<v Speaker 2>much much faster data rates. We're talking potentially one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and six kilobits per second that's thought to be achievable

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<v Speaker 2>with this silicon inks CMOS technology.

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<v Speaker 1>Big improvement, Okay, huge speed jump. But there's a catch.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh there's a limitation. Yeah. Despite the performance boost from

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<v Speaker 2>Silicon Inc. Both organic and silicon printed tags seem to

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<v Speaker 2>share this let's call it a comfortable upper boundary around

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand transistors.

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<v Speaker 1>Two thousand doesn't sound like a lot in chip terms.

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<v Speaker 2>It isn't think of it like a tiny little brain.

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<v Speaker 2>It really restricts how complex their internal protocols, their communication

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<v Speaker 2>rules can be.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, and this is where we see this sort of

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating return to roots. As our sources put it, this

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<v Speaker 1>limitation is pushing the industry back towards the original mit

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<v Speaker 1>autoid center idea. Remember them early are FID pioneers.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, absolutely fundamental.

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<v Speaker 1>They advocated for minimalist architecture. I sees simple, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>adequate protocols that could actually fit within these modest transistor counts. Apparently,

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<v Speaker 1>this key idea got a bit lost during the earlier EPC,

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<v Speaker 1>the Electronic Product Code development, when everyone was focused on traditional,

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<v Speaker 1>more complex silicon.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you connect that to the bigger picture, it

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<v Speaker 2>suggests a real strategic shift. You know, supply chain applications

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<v Speaker 2>got heavily promoted for years, but this low cost printed

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<v Speaker 2>r FID it's actually targeting different high volume markets, which

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<v Speaker 2>ones things like mass transit ticketing, n FC applications, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>near field communication where you typically scanned just one tag

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<v Speaker 2>like contactless payment, also brand authentication, consumer product promotion, even

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<v Speaker 2>retail loss prevention. These markets, according to the experts, could

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<v Speaker 2>actually dwarf the size of the traditional EPC market.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. So if printed election are going to make it

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<v Speaker 1>big in item level tagging for supply chains, what needs

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<v Speaker 1>to happen?

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<v Speaker 2>Our sources suggest a major paradigm change is still needed,

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<v Speaker 2>or rethink in how protocols, anti collision and security systems

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<v Speaker 2>are designed specifically for these load transistor counts.

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<v Speaker 1>It requires what do they call it an epiphany?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, an epiphany towards minimalist thinking. Simpler might be better.

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<v Speaker 1>That idea of a minimalist epiphany. It really does highlight

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<v Speaker 1>a crucial shift, doesn't It suggests maybe simplicity is the

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<v Speaker 1>key to unlocking our if id's full potential. But okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this evolution it isn't just about faster tags or cheaper manufacturing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fundamental to getting to that bigger vision. The Internet

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<v Speaker 1>of things. Imagine a world where everyday objects aren't just things,

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<v Speaker 1>but active participants in our processes.

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<v Speaker 2>And a key aspect here is how these smart items

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<v Speaker 2>go way beyond just simple identification. They can have sensing capabilities,

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<v Speaker 2>computing power, networking right on the item. So, for instance,

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<v Speaker 2>a smart item could dynamically store its own tracking history,

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<v Speaker 2>its current location, maybe even critical temperatures it's been exposed

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<v Speaker 2>to directly on the item, not just sitting in some

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<v Speaker 2>central database.

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<v Speaker 1>One and it gets even cooler. These items can autonomously

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<v Speaker 1>gather information using specialized sensors. Think about it. A smart

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<v Speaker 1>shelf in a store could tell you if a tag

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<v Speaker 1>product is put down correctly or if it's upside down.

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<v Speaker 1>Or a machine could automatically order its own spare parts,

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<v Speaker 1>schedule its own maintenance based on its condition. No human

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and this raises an important point for the sources.

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<v Speaker 2>The vision isn't just about you know, delivering data to

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<v Speaker 2>a back end system. It's about process control. It's about

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<v Speaker 2>relocated task execution. Smart items could autonomously decide okay, start

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<v Speaker 2>this process step or stop that one or even carry

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<v Speaker 2>out whole subprocesses themselves right there at the physical point

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<v Speaker 2>of action. Based on real time sensored data, the item

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<v Speaker 2>becomes an active player.

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<v Speaker 1>And this ability to connect what were previously isolated internal

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<v Speaker 1>company things by having c SRVIS providers use information managed

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<v Speaker 1>by like multiple independent companies, our sources highlight that as

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<v Speaker 1>a really significant step towards a truly connected internet of things.

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<v Speaker 1>That even give a great example, a consumer could check

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<v Speaker 1>if a product is counterfeit just by snapping a photo

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<v Speaker 1>of a security label with their phone or an RFID

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<v Speaker 1>enabled phone could just automate that whole check instantly.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. However, this brave new world it comes with

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty big challenge the data deluge.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah yes heard that term.

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<v Speaker 2>Experts are predicting that mass usage of these, say organic

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<v Speaker 2>smart labels, maybe even multiple labels per item, it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to generate just vast amounts of data. Walmart, for instance,

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<v Speaker 2>was projected to potentially see seven terabytes of data every

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<v Speaker 2>single days from item level RFID.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven terabytes a day.

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<v Speaker 2>That's huge, it is, and it demands really high data rates,

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<v Speaker 2>real time processing, and a flexible way to distribute that workload.

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<v Speaker 2>Across the labels, the readers, the middleware of the databases.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole system needs to cope.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so that data deluge, with all this information flowing in,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you actually make sense of it? More importantly,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you make it useful? Our sources really dive

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<v Speaker 1>deep into the complexities here, into our FID data management.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just collecting raw.

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<v Speaker 2>Reads, is it not at all? It's about turning that

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<v Speaker 2>raw data into actionable insights. RFID data. You see, it's

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<v Speaker 2>inherently temporal, It changes over time, it tells a story,

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<v Speaker 2>it has a history. It's also multi dimensional, often carries

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<v Speaker 2>implicit meanings. The key is to interpret those raw tag

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<v Speaker 2>readings into business meaningful events using sophisticated event patterns.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you give us some concrete examples? What kind of

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<v Speaker 1>events are we talking about? Beyond just hey, I saw

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<v Speaker 1>this tag?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? Our sources describe rules like okay, reader sees a tag,

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<v Speaker 2>that observation automatically triggers an update to that object's location history.

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<v Speaker 2>Simple enough. Or imagine an asset monitoring rule and alarm

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<v Speaker 2>gets sent if a laptop tag is detected by a

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<v Speaker 2>reader for say five seconds without a super rouser tag

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<v Speaker 2>also being seen nearby.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah okay, context matters exactly or another critical one real

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<v Speaker 1>time position monitoring.

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<v Speaker 2>An alert could be sent if a money transport trucks

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<v Speaker 2>tag shows it moving beyond a five mile security distance

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<v Speaker 2>from its bank destination, real time context aware events.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds incredibly powerful for automation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but given that data da luge you mentioned and

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<v Speaker 2>the real world being messy, are these systems really robust?

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<v Speaker 2>Can they handle data that isn't perfectly clean or ordered?

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<v Speaker 2>Our sources mention issues like unordered event streams, data arriving

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<v Speaker 2>out of sequence, maybe from different readers at different times.

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<v Speaker 1>You've hit on a really crucial point there. Data cleaning

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<v Speaker 1>is absolutely vital, especially in dynamic places like a shop floor,

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<v Speaker 1>where the exact tag location can be a bit fuzzy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, simple data filters just aren't enough, so experts

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<v Speaker 1>have developed probabilistic approaches using techniques like maximum likelihood estimation

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<v Speaker 1>fancy term, but basically.

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<v Speaker 2>It helps infer a tag's most likely precise location, even

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<v Speaker 2>within a reader's general range. It can dramatically improve accuracy.

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<v Speaker 2>It can even help preserve the correct order of items

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<v Speaker 2>moving on say a conveyor built prevent mix up, so

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<v Speaker 2>like having a digital detective sorting things out.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's really insightful I thought was that this approach

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<v Speaker 1>can even give confidence intervals. So if the system isn't

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<v Speaker 1>super sure about a tag's location, it flags it maybe

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<v Speaker 1>for a manual check, preventing bad data leading to bad decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>That's smart.

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<v Speaker 2>It adds that layer of intelligence to the uncertainty exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And if we connect this to the broader picture of

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<v Speaker 2>data management, new frameworks are coming out They tightly integrate

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<v Speaker 2>this time based and location based data. Makes tracking and

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<v Speaker 2>tracing much more effective for fast moving consumer goods, especially

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<v Speaker 2>understanding the link between a batch like a palette and

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<v Speaker 2>the individual items inside it. That's crucial for accurate tracking.

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<v Speaker 1>I also saw mentions of an event recording clock and

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<v Speaker 1>this time to live concept. What's their role in managing

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<v Speaker 1>an item's history and its relevance?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, the event recording clock, that's essential for tracking an

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<v Speaker 2>item's movement precisely through the supply chain. It helps filter

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<v Speaker 2>out those unordered or invalid events, help reconstruct a clear

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<v Speaker 2>timeline and time to live or TTL that's basically a

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<v Speaker 2>preset expiring date for the tag's data relevance. It specifies

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<v Speaker 2>how long that RFID tags information is considered active or important.

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<v Speaker 2>Could be its physical lifespan, maybe its use for just

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<v Speaker 2>one specific job, or the time between events. It helps

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<v Speaker 2>where you only care about the data for a certain

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that makes sense. Now let's shift gears a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about the big questions for businesses and for

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<v Speaker 1>consumers too, security and value. When we dive into anti counterfeiting,

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<v Speaker 1>our sources reveal a really profound shift in thinking, a

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<v Speaker 1>whole paradigm shift.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the traditional view was always focused on making products

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<v Speaker 2>copy proof, you know, aim for one hundred percent reliability

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<v Speaker 2>in each individual security feature make it impossible to copy.

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<v Speaker 2>With the new paradigm, as our sources explain, it shifts

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<v Speaker 2>the focus. It's about securing the entire supply chain effectively

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<v Speaker 2>detecting counterfeit products when they appear. The goal becomes making

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<v Speaker 2>counterfeiting financially unattractive to risky, which means sometimes accepting good

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<v Speaker 2>enough reliability for one individual check. Yes, if it allows

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<v Speaker 2>for a much higher rate of inspection across the whole

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<v Speaker 2>supply chain. More checks, even if slightly less perfect, individually,

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<v Speaker 2>increase the overall chance of catching fakes. It's a numbers

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it's less about an invincible tag and more

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<v Speaker 1>about a smarter and more vigilant system overall. What kind

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<v Speaker 1>does RFID help specifically?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? Attack vectors range from really simple physical stuff like

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<v Speaker 2>tag swapping someone in a store switches the tag from

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<v Speaker 2>a pricey item onto a cheap one, right classic scam,

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<v Speaker 2>to quite sophisticated things like relay attacks. There was one

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<v Speaker 2>example cited where a student proved a public transport system

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<v Speaker 2>was vulnerable. They performed a relay attack on transit tickets,

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<v Speaker 2>basically remotely relaying a valid tag signal to trick a

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<v Speaker 1>Clever but worrying. So how does RFID help fight this?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's not just about putting cryptography on the tags

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<v Speaker 2>themselves to prevent cloning, though that's part of it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>also about the systems designed to detect clone tags, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>by checking serial numbers against a database or verifying synchronized

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<v Speaker 2>seekers special codes stored on the tag's memory that change

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<v Speaker 2>in a predictable way and even the back end systems,

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<v Speaker 2>the databases and servers, they're vulnerable too. Privacy violations, key compromises,

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<v Speaker 2>denial of service attacks. You need standard IT security there, firewalls,

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<v Speaker 1>Makes sense beyond security though, RFID is also playing a

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<v Speaker 1>big role in green logistics. That sounds like a huge opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>It absolutely is. I mean, the green market was projected

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<v Speaker 2>to hit seven hundred billion dollars way back in twenty ten.

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<v Speaker 2>It's massive now. And green logistics applies environmental principles across

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<v Speaker 2>a product's entire life cycle, from design, sourcing, manufacturing, delivery,

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<v Speaker 2>all the way through to after sales returns, re manufacturing, recycling,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole journey, and RFID helps how it provides the accurate,

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<v Speaker 2>real time information you need throughout that really complex journey.

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<v Speaker 2>Visibility is key. There's a South Korean consortium g Lobe

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<v Speaker 2>actively developing RFID based green logistic solutions, improving traceability, creating

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<v Speaker 1>Efficiency, and they're even using it to fight something as

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<v Speaker 1>specific as fake water pure fire filters, which can cost

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<v Speaker 1>what over two hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, imagine installing RFID readers inside the water purifiers themselves,

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<v Speaker 2>so they can verify the filter's authenticity remotely when it's installed.

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<v Speaker 2>Very specific, very tangible.

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<v Speaker 1>Value that really highlights the value side of the equation,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>It does, and our sources emphasize when you're evaluating RFID investments,

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<v Speaker 2>don't just look at isolated applications. Think of it more

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<v Speaker 2>as a bundle of interdependent and sequential investments. It's a journey.

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<v Speaker 2>RFID applications tend to evolve. You might start by simply

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<v Speaker 2>substituting barcodes for say, inventory audits, basic stuff. Then you

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<v Speaker 2>scale it across the supply chain, maybe for tracking product origin,

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<v Speaker 2>and finally you get to structural changes, creating entirely new

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<v Speaker 2>business models like better promotion management or handling verse logistics

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<v Speaker 2>returns much more efficiently. It builds over time, and.

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<v Speaker 1>The cost savings can be very real, very tangible too.

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<v Speaker 1>One study found RFID could slash order processing time from

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five minutes down to just fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Huge operational saving right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it also directly tackles inventory and accuracies, a

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<v Speaker 1>massive headache for businesses, you know, aligning the digital records

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<v Speaker 1>with what's actually on the shelf, reducing errors from mists, scans,

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<v Speaker 1>wrong shipments, items just being misplaced somewhere in the warehouse, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Ultimately that leads to better product availability for customers. Optimized

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<v Speaker 2>processes like FIFO, first in, first out, which is vital

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<v Speaker 2>for perishable goods. Yeah, and you can minimize buffer stock,

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<v Speaker 2>hold less inventory. All of that contributes to higher sales

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<v Speaker 2>and a healthier bottom line.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so amazing potential, clear value. But there's always a but,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't there? If there's the elephant in the room. Our

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<v Speaker 1>sources address head on privacy and regulation. The whole debate

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<v Speaker 1>on RFID seems to have largely shifted from the technical

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like radio spectrum to these fundamental concerns about personal privacy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and a key question emerges here from the industry perspective.

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<v Speaker 2>According to our sources, they feel some consumer concerns have

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<v Speaker 2>been let's say, hyped up, focusing on scenarios that are

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<v Speaker 2>technically impossible or highly unlikely. And they also point out

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<v Speaker 2>that existing things like supermarket loyalty cards already collect way

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<v Speaker 2>more personal data than RFID typically would in a retail setting.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting perspective, and retailers especially are incredibly sensitive to consumer trust.

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<v Speaker 2>They understand perfectly well that if RFID makes customers hesitant

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<v Speaker 2>to shop, the whole business case just collapses. Trust is paramount.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was a surprising finding in surveys too, wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>there about expertise?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, quite striking. Between fifty and seventy percent of industry

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<v Speaker 2>respondents believe legal regulators, lawyers, judges of inadequate or even

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<v Speaker 2>very inadequate expertise on RFID technology.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's a high percentage.

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<v Speaker 2>It is. And the industry also tends to perceive the

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<v Speaker 2>general public as badly informed about the technology. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty significant knowledge gap on all sides.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we have covered a lot of ground there. We've

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<v Speaker 1>just taken quite the deep dive into the fascinating world

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<v Speaker 1>of RFID. We've looked at how it's manufacturing is evolving

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<v Speaker 1>from silicon to print, how it empowers everyday objects in

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet of Things, that intricate dance of managing all

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<v Speaker 1>that data, the critical shift and security thinking, and the

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<v Speaker 1>real tangible business value from green logistics to just getting

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<v Speaker 1>inventory right.

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<v Speaker 2>What seems really clear is that RFID is so much

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<v Speaker 2>more than just a simple ID tag, isn't it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>really a foundational technology offering unprecedented visibility, unprecedented control across

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<v Speaker 2>so many industries. It's transforming how we interact with the.

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<v Speaker 1>Physical world absolutely, and as this technology continues to embed

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<v Speaker 1>intelligence into more and more everyday objects, lessly bridging that

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<v Speaker 1>physical and digital divide. Here's maybe a final thought for you,

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<v Speaker 1>our listener to mull over. How will we collectively bridge

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<v Speaker 1>that gap? We just talked about the gap between what's

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<v Speaker 1>technologically possible and public understanding. How do we ensure widespread

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<v Speaker 1>trust and adoption for this burgeoning Internet of things? And

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<v Speaker 1>maybe what surprising new applishpations or perhaps unforeseen challenges do

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<v Speaker 1>you think lie just around the corner. Thanks for joining

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<v Speaker 1>us on this deep dive. We hope you feel a

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<v Speaker 1>little more well informed and definitely a lot more curious.