Speaker 1: I don't think he can help but pay attention to
the war in Iran a regional war now, but how
we see it that's different than how someone who's done
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Michael Rourke joins me its advanced operational strategies, and Mike
is a Special Forces veteran retired. Now, Mike, welcome back
to the Todd Hermit Show.
Speaker 3: It's great to have her.
Speaker 4: Thanks to good back.
Speaker 3: Yep, it's good to have you here.
Speaker 1: And you see these things so differently than we do.
And we've got a whole series of questions for you,
starting with let's just from your perspective rate this is
an operation, no politics, none of that. There's skepticism. I'm
skeptical about the reason for this war, et cetera. I
back our troops one hundred percent. I think they're incredible.
I'm so thankful for them. So what do you see
as a grade as an operator in this how do
you grade the affair?
Speaker 4: It's definitely a success. So far. We're seriously degrading Rand's
ability to attack other countries. Yeah, I think the War
Department has said that they're about above seventy five percent
degraded and their ability to launch, particularly in the ballistic missiles.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 4: The drones are still a problem. And the drones are
having an easier time getting through. They're much they fly
much lower. There's a slower five flying weapon system, but
a lot of them are getting through. But the ballistic missiles,
which are the real danger, that's the big punch, those
are seriously degraded.
Speaker 1: And so being able to degrade that then that's one
part of this operation. But we just did something else,
and this is on the sea. You just showed this
me this morning. We did something for the first time
since to your knowledge, since World War Two, on the.
Speaker 4: Sea, correct, Yeah, in the Indian Ocean, somewhere near Sri Lanka.
A US Navy Fast Attacks submarine fired a torpedo and
sank the Iranian frigate data. That was a ship over
three hundred feet long, and it's now on the bottom
of the ocean. Apparently there was a heavy loss of
life among the crew. I think the Sri Lanka Navy
is recovering bodies. I don't know if they've picked up
any survivors, but yeah, the War Department released that video,
and it's pretty spectacular. First time that we publicly acknowledged
torpedoing an enemy's surface vessels since nineteen forty.
Speaker 1: Five, you've cari since nineteen forty five World War Two,
you've characterized this as a regional war, and I want
to talk about that in the seconds. This is General
Barry McCaffrey. He was on MSNBC, which we're now supposed
to call ms NOW since they ruined that brand.
Speaker 3: I hope you can hear this.
Speaker 1: McCaffrey says, it's unlikely that we will have a success.
Speaker 5: Tackle surprised more than five hundred targets have been hit.
The Israelis and the US Air Force have massive superior
over of the Iranian defense capacities, which is weakened by
the Twelve Day War eight month ago. The Iranian regime
is fragile. They've murdered more than seven thousand of their
own people. They're widely five. We have apparently succeeded in
eliminating a lot of the Iranian senior leadership. The problem
which jumps out at you is the President did this
by decree by whim, without consultation with Congress, without any
attempt to gain the support of the American people, and finally,
in the direct contradiction of the views of our allies,
not just the European Union, but also there alas in
a region, seven of which are now being struck in
an Iranian retaliation.
Speaker 1: So he went on to say, in regards to us
having ultimate success there did McCaffrey unlikely? Unlikely? Unlikely for
the circumstances. You're not someone who can read the future.
None of us can. But if we've got en up
to this start, do you think we're in an unlikely
position to succeed? And what would success mean?
Speaker 4: Well, you look at you know what the President and
what the War Department has said success means, and they've
said it means destroying a rans ability to make war
on their neighbors, preventing them from ever having a nuclear weapon. Yeah,
they don't really specifically talk about regime change and leaving
that up to the Ranian people, but they're trying to
set the conditions for that to happen. We're definitely going
to succeed in their ability to make war on their neighbors.
I think we're going to succeed on destroying their nuclear
weapons program. And I would just ask Jerald McCaffrey, where
was he in twenty eleven when Barack Obama by decree
launched a seven month long operation against Libya.
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well this wasn't that Hillary Clinton who launched that
because of it was a YouTube video, wasn't it, Mike.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was, of course Barack Obama was
the commander in chief. But I want to say, yeah,
the twenty eleven twenty twelve timeframe.
Speaker 1: And that see, and this is how some people argue
into this, that that turned out to be a very
bad operation. Yes, we took out a bad guy, bad actor,
but it costs us pretty dearly in lives of some
of our men, obviously infamously in Benghazi.
Speaker 3: So people worry about that.
Speaker 1: I want to stay on mission with you, which is
to have you look at this through military eyes and
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Speaker 3: We were just talking.
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works with US retired Special Forces and Mike, from your
perspective as a guy who served in the Middle East
in special Forces, you said that you carried out What
did you say?
Speaker 3: People asked what you did?
Speaker 1: We're talking about diplomatic relations, and you gave them a
nice little shortcut for what you did.
Speaker 4: Yeah, basically was a Green Beret do. And I typically
say we implement foreign policy at the grassroots.
Speaker 3: Level, okay.
Speaker 1: And Alex overre Al was saying that war is aggressive
aggressive negotiation or diplomacy by another means, and.
Speaker 4: From yeah, diplomacy by other means.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: So when you look at the intel we had here, this,
I want to say, this is astonishing to me, but
I'm the guy who's always saying anything that can be
coded can be hacked. But apparently the Masade gained access
for fifteen years to the traffic cameras in and around
where the leaders of Iran were located, and they developed
what's called pattern of life packages and rolled those into
target packages. Talk about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if the Financial Times article is accurate, they hacked
into the system of the traffic cams. And by the way,
don't think China's not doing that here in the United States,
or that we're not doing it in China. The I've
heard also as possible that there were even internal security
cameras that were hacked into. And yeah, we've establishing that
we call pol or pattern of life on a target
is absolutely critical to get some sort of predictive targeting analysis.
And then when you get the information that, yeah, this
meeting is going to take place, Apparently there are also
human sources involved. Again according to that article, Yeah, the
CIA had had a human source that was very well placed. Again,
when this stuff becomes public, you don't really know how
accurate it is because all the intelligence services are gonna
say no comment. But if this stuff became public, and
if it's accurate, it might mean that those sources and
methods are no longer useful in that particular context. But yeah,
they were. They were to be able to determine, well,
he's there, and it was the way they took him
out was quite spectacular.
Speaker 1: So We'll talk about the way they took him out
here in a seconds. But this is one of the
reasons why I don't have a smart home. You know,
we had someone out to fix our our hot.
Speaker 3: Water the other day.
Speaker 1: When the guy was looking at the at the readout
and he goes, do you have your app i AD
on your saus you tell what he goes, because I
could just check this with Bluetooth.
Speaker 3: It's going to cost you a little bit more money.
Speaker 1: That's okay, because I'm not My house is not gonna
have anything smart in it, and it's for this. And
then just today I read about there's a new this
is completely open source software patch you can put on
your router to turn your house into a surveillance thing
that counts heart rates and breath five meters from the
uh from this goes through walls, et cetera. And it
can be put on apparently any router. And that's if
we decide to put it on. It's not like our
intelligence services will ever pushed that down. So if you
if this is true, and they got the traffic camera
data and they built a pattern of life, what does
that what does that look like? They feed that into
AI to say, Okay, this is when they're likely to
be there. Then they hit the attack, and then we'll
talk about the way they actually took the eye toll out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, nowadays, I'm sure they use AI, but
you're also going to have a lot of human eyeballs
looking at that data, compiling it, getting all these data points,
Okay that you know, like this particular security guard is
always with the ayatola, so when we see him standing
outside that parked you know, limousine Okay, you know the
iatolas inside that building, you know, things like that, and
they're they're tracking, they're you know, they're tracking security detail.
You know, what are the days on, what are their
days off? When, which key players are always there when
your head VIP is present. Yeah, and those are the
indicators that they're building the picture with, even if they
don't actually see the target themselves. But apparently the apparently
they had other knowledge that he was inside the building,
and they knew in advanced that the meeting was going
to take place.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I read an article and shared this.
Speaker 1: Several years ago, Wired magazine proved that you can use
AD targeting technology to take out high value targets. They
used it to find out within fifteen feet where President
Trump was, and they used this as a demonstration. They
found out about this from someone who'd been an inside
the Beltway actor who then started a company leveraging commercially
available ad tech to just did.
Speaker 3: The same thing with Putin.
Speaker 1: So let's not kid ourselves that there aren't these these
patterns of life being built everywhere. You believe the Chinese
Communist Party has our traffic cameras and maybe our internal
security cameras and our nest cams, et cetera.
Speaker 3: You think that's almost a certainty.
Speaker 4: Why wouldn't they you know, well, like you said, if
it can be coded, it can be hacked. Yeah, there
are all kinds of amateur you know, fifteen sixty year
old hackers that are breaking into camera systems, breating in
security systems. Like you, we don't have a smart smart home.
We don't have you know, the computerized graphic thermostat that
could be controlled from elsewhere, and you know, the appliances
or as dumb as can be. So yeah, why wouldn't
they do that?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: And that raises another question that I want to talk
about later, which is why aren't we seeing and praise
God Almighty we're not seeing, But why aren't we seeing
some truly devastating attacks by Iranian sleeper cells which I'd
always assumed we're here ready to go and get massively
kinetic in the case of war like this. So how
did they take the eye toll outs? And looking at
it from your perspective as a retired Green Beret Special
Forces guy, how do you rate that part of the.
Speaker 4: Opp Well, I mean, you can't call on anything but
a spectacular success based on the results. What I heard
was that they had some fairly new missiles on a
bunch of Israeli F fifteens, and these missiles when they
got and the planes were supposedly in the air for
hours just waiting for the launch signal, and once they
got it, these missiles were fired, supposedly left the atmosphere
and then got over the target and then came plunging
straight down, probably at hypersonic speeds, and just multiple of
these weapons hit the building that the I tool was
in and just turned it into rubble and pretty much
pulverized everything inside.
Speaker 1: And the significance of leaving the atmosphere is that speed
or does that get outside the realm of their radar?
Their surveillance capabilities, one would assume.
Speaker 4: It just the degrade and the ability to detect and intercept. Yeah,
and plus the fact that it was happening in daylight.
You know, they weren't expecting it. That's what you know.
They certainly weren't expecting anything to happen, Otherwise they wouldn't
be having a meeting above ground.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I guess if the missiles coming straight down, there's
there's no vector on it.
Speaker 3: It's just it's it's.
Speaker 1: This thing coming straight down. I was curious about that that.
I asked you the day of the attack, why are
we doing this during the day, because you'd set me
some some thoughts prior to the attack, saying, you know,
there's there's not enough moonlight, it's not good coverage, you know,
not good light at night. But that daylight thing, that's
this obviously target of opportunity. But this is me thinking
non military, Mike, I look at this for the Iranian forces,
and I look at this psychologic saying, we took you
guys out in the middle of the morning in full daylight,
and that's what we can do and you can't.
Speaker 4: Correct. And another indicator you know that we're talking about
operation before is that the civilian airspace was still open.
You know, the skis in Iran, the skys in the
Middle East were full of civilian airliners in normal operation,
and they're going to clear that airspace first. And but
they had what we call a fleeting target, a fleeting
opportunity that they had to take advantage of. Not only
do we take out their queue leadership that morning, but
then we kept doing it. Now they're trying to elect
a new Ayatola, Well, we hit the place where they
were counting the votes, took out more key leaders. So
we're just working down the chain, the national chain of command.
We're also targeting military leaders at every level that that
we can find them. So far, I think just the
United States will has it two thousand separate targets. Israel
might have hit as many. You know that this is
targets from a key leadership to infrastructure, to police stations,
to ballistic missile launchers, to blistic missile storage, to air
defense systems. And that's what so far has also given
US air superiority, not necessarily air dominance yet, but complete
air superiority.
Speaker 1: Takes Sas said today, he thinks that we will have
air dominance within the next couple of days. He thinks
that the air Force Arena air Force is close to
being non existent at this point. Although we've seen some
air action and you talked about this, we've seen some
dogfights and some plane shot down and this went very viral,
and I think rightly, so that's an image of a
female pilot. We had two pilots shot down that we
know about. One was a male pilot, as the female pilots,
and she's in the middle of the desert, and it's
pretty phenomenal, and even people who are skeptical of the
war looking at this as really phenomenal. A she was
able to eject and survive. B she was met by
what could only be described as a gentleman who saw
her and came up.
Speaker 3: Said are you okay? And she said, yeah, I'm okay.
Are you sure?
Speaker 1: Yes, well, thanks for helping us. And then came this
iconic photo of these guys in really beautiful white robes
and headdresses and posing with her, and people saying it's propaganda. Okay,
maybe it is, but I don't think the shootdown was propaganda.
That's a big thing to eject from a plane, and
she was wearing something. We're told and apparently our guys
you wore this. It's called a blood shit. Shits is
always had bloodshit. That's like a nasty word, but that's
a bloodshit that they wear. And it says on this
I'm an American. I do not speak your language. I
will do you no harm. Please give me food, water, shelter, clothing,
and a doctor. Help me reach Americans or friendly forces.
When you provide my name and this number to US authorities,
you will be rewarded. So you knew about these things,
and I guess you wore one.
Speaker 4: Well, we didn't wear them, we carried them on.
Speaker 3: Okay, they were knitted into their clothing.
Speaker 4: Apparently, No, we just had my mind was just folded
up in a pocket. Okay, but yeah, blood chit. I
believe the actually started with the American Volunteer Group, which
is the Flying Tigers in uh in the Burma Theater,
before the United States you even got into World War two.
But yeah, there there there there's multiple languages on them
that pretty much say that message that you know that
that you read that you know, hey, I'm an American.
If you help help us, you will be rewarded. And
so these are yeah, these are controlled items. We actually
had to sign for them and then turn them back
in when our combat tour was over. But yeah, yeah,
they most definitely exist.
Speaker 3: So this is the video I was talking about.
Speaker 1: This is the the Kuwaiti locals uh and approaching one
of the Ais.
Speaker 3: Just this case, this female filet fine, really really.
Speaker 5: You need something to help you?
Speaker 3: No problem, save you want save, You're safe?
Speaker 4: Everything good problem, Thank you for.
Speaker 2: Everything?
Speaker 3: Horrible, Mike.
Speaker 1: I'm touched by this because of the humanity of it.
I'm touched that a she's a woman, and you're not
always going to be treated well as.
Speaker 3: A woman in some of these countries.
Speaker 1: Be that the relief on her face says you're okay,
You're okay, right, do you need anything? And then his
apparent joy in thank you for helping us and wanting
to get a selfie with her. So that leads me
into a human, very human question for you. Obviously, when
you are over there as a green bray, your job
is to help or to actually go break things and
kill people, but you run into these human moments, and
I wanted to ask you about your feelings about the
the Iranian people as a whole and the p believe
met overhere there wolf fighting.
Speaker 4: The the Iranian people. The Persians are very different than
what you'll find in a lot of the Middle East.
Most of them aren't necessarily Muslims, the uh. But I've
certainly fought side by side with Muslims. I've bet my
life on, you know, on Muslims on Iranian Muslims that
were going through the door and had, you know, a
loaded weapon right behind me as we're going through the
door on a target. But yeah, the people are very different.
They actually, unlike a lot of the other countries, they
seem to be yearning for democracy, unlike say the people
in Iraq who had no concept of it. On our Instagram,
we have a very different pilot bailout video than the
one you showed him that I've seen of the female.
This is a male pilot and when he after he lands,
when he's first encountered, the Kuwaiti civilians are ready to
attack him because they're not yet sure who he is.
Imagine your country is under attack by air yeah, and
all of a sudden there's there's someone parachuting down in
your midst and you don't know who he is. Now
that they back down as soon as they you know,
as soon as I identifies himself as an American. But
it could have gone if they hadn't hesitated, that could
have gone the other way really fast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen that vida. We could have pulled that
in as well. And then he was treated well. And
you know, I saw the vida of the guy. I
think it was an ak he had, and then that
he put it up like oh no wait so an American?
Speaker 3: Stop? Stop stop.
Speaker 1: So you think that your estimation, you've been there and
spent time with these people, you've had a Muslim behind
your back who could have shot you in the back.
Is I guess what you're suggesting there? You think that
the Persian people particularly ran this yearning for democracy is real, Yes.
Speaker 4: Either yearning for democracy or yearning for their the return
of their monarchy, or mostly just yearning for the removal
of the despotic Iotolda and coming out from under the
veil of their brand of Islam. Because if you look
at there's videos out there college yearbooks from prior to
nineteen seventy nine when I had Toola Komani came in
that you know that they're in western dress, the women
are wearing beautiful dresses. They're a little you know, long
flowing hair. Yeah, they look pretty much like a Western country,
obviously with their own Persian culture, you know, attached to
it so that they didn't want this veil of darkness
to come over their country, and they're eager to see
it removed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And my wife and I were looking at some footage,
and my wife is my wife has a feel very
heavy hearts right now for the loss of life there,
and really really has her hearts. It's breaking seeing children killed,
et cetera.
Speaker 3: End.
Speaker 1: But she was also looking at some of the places
and I ran absolutely beautiful places, beautiful artwork, And I
remind you of when I think it was isis who
went and destroyed a lot of those temples, a lot
of those you know, very ornate, old old temples and
artwork and pulled down these incredible statues, et cetera. So,
because we're gonna look at this from two different perspectives,
we'll look at it from our perspective we've never been there,
and then this is why I wanted you have on
your perspective, because you spent time there, you fought with them,
you fought against them, and have some more questions about
our country, Mike and what we'll see here. You're not
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Russia when he was killed, even though he was in
Russia when he was killed, because we didn't have.
Speaker 3: People in Russia when he was killed. But he was
in Russia.
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of a domestic look at this. You'd said that China
almost certainly, and I agree with you. Why would they
not hack our systems? Why would they not be developing
pattern of life views of our leaders and an ability
to take them out one day in an action like this?
But a subtext to this is why aren't we seeing
big action by Iranian sleeper cells? Because we had a
wide open border for a long stink and time and
a bunch of people come in. We know we're on
the terrorist watch list, So I guess, are you surprised
that we haven't seen a big, huge, coordinated attack.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm definitely somewhat surprised, which and the lack of
that action, because you would think that the death of
that Atolla would be the ghost signal, even if no
official ghost signal had been received. So you know, it
calls into question do these cells exist or if they
do exist. Are they thinking maybe we'll just sit this out?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Secretary Gnome was testifying in Congress yesterday and they were
asking her about these sleeper cells, and she kind of
really didn't give a solid answer, which means, yes they are.
These cells probably exist, and in a classified setting, a
classified hearing before Congress, they would probably get more detail.
Everyone I know who's still close to the intelligence community,
and there's currently in my industry, they believe these cells exist.
The loan murderer in Austin, Texas recently appeared to be
motivated by events in Iran. He had an Iranian T
shirt under his property of a La hoodie. So I
think we'll definitely see some more of these loan killers,
and probably in Europe as well. But yeah, I'm surprised
that we're not seeing these cells. We didn't see them
during other events either. We didn't see him during the
you know, the Twelve Day War. We're going after their
nuclear program the first time.
Speaker 1: Were you surprised that President Trump was in the initial
stations is of this of our action in Iran? That
he was apparently running that from mar Largo and not
from a Maybe I don't know more secure location than
his resort.
Speaker 4: Well, Dona mar Logo. They're going to have a skiff
set up skiff as a special compartment and information facility
where you can process information at the top secret level.
I think also the part of that was deception. You know, hey,
the leaders, the key leaders out of place. He's not there,
you know, in the White House situation room. Everything's cool
over here. We're going to go ahead with our meeting.
Speaker 1: Okay, so said the golfing weekend for the president, So
we're good.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. But the but the fact is when they travel,
they have all this information you know, available to them.
Even when you have key leaders and hotels, they'll set
up a they'll set up a skiff in the hotel
room to you know, where they can stay in touch.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm thinking through physical safety. And I know
that we've got secret Service people down there, but oddly
they haven't had a great records protecting President Trump and
at least two assassination attempts. And I hope that's better
now that he is, you know, kind of picking his
own guys, et cetera. I guess I'm just brainstorming here.
Could it be that the sleeper cells here don't want
to go hit civilian targets because they want to go
hit harder targets, because hitting civilian targets could create more
public support for the war and for quicker ending, or
creates more anger among the American people that they might
be looking for, how could we actually hurt the command
apparatus that they might be waiting for something like that,
And I don't think they're going to get it, because
I think their intel feeds are wiped out.
Speaker 4: Well, the Iranian government has no problem launching missiles and
drones against civilian hotels. They're Hezbola surrogate has no problem
launching Katucia rockets against hospitals and schools. So no terrorists
is gonna even blink an eye at taken on civilian
targets and stacking up as many bodies as they can.
They know they can't achieve a strategic impact by hitting
any sort of military or government leadership target, So if
they're going to act, they're going to go after whatever
they can. They would have already had targets selected, They've
probably already conducted their reconnaissance, and then it's just a
matter of are we going to do this or not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Well, the fact that they haven't leads me
to have two separate questions. One, maybe they don't exist
and we've been concerned for good cause, and it's better
to be concerned and have it not exist and be
concerned and or not be concerned to how it exists.
Or maybe they got here and spend some time here
and said, wait, I like it here. Maybe I don't
want to harm this country. But do you think there's
a chance they don't exist.
Speaker 4: I think there's a small chance they don't. But I
want to caution everyone too, is that we're only a
couple of days into this and what's going to be
a multi week effort. So this is no time to
let your guard down. If anything, you need to be
switching on your SYSUE situational awareness even more because you know,
if these cells are out there, they may be conducting
final target reconnaissance before they actually go, and they're going
to be looking for vulnerable settings where the there are
a lot of people that are going to be easy
to attack, and whether they decide to get away after
conducting the attack, or they've already made up their mind
that it's a one way martyr dimission it's definitely no
time to lay our guard down.
Speaker 3: And I couldn't agree more on that. And you're saying
many weeks.
Speaker 1: There are other people who are saying, you know, buckle
up because it's going to be many years. Because there
are people who believe that President Trump is not going
to be able to avoid the temptation of nation building
and if it comes to the point where and they've
said regime change is not part of this, but we've
got people coming over and apparently trying to contact the
president and Mark or Rubio they want to have talks
about how they can lead Iran. I'm sorry, Mike, but
when one group comes and they get audience with the president,
we want to lead Iran. You are engaged in regime change,
and I don't think you finish off regeam change. You
said it yourself without boots.
Speaker 2: On the ground.
Speaker 4: Well, it's really hard to completely change the government from
the air. But right now the state of goal is
to set the conditions for the Iranian people to overthrow
the current government. There's still a viable scenarios where what
ends up after this is some remnant of the current government.
You know, someone further down the chain that says, Okay,
you know we're going to meet your demands. You know,
stop buying us. We won't build any we won't try
to build any nuclear weapons. We want to rich uranium.
And yes, we will throw open the doors to inspection,
which is the only way you can absolutely verify that.
Now this has taken place, you know, if they want
nuclear power for peaceful means, fine, you know that could
be provided from outside. You don't build a peaceful nuclear
program some seventy feet underground.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so, yeah, great point.
Speaker 4: There are a lot of scenarios how this can play up.
Speaker 1: So, speaking of situational awareness and not letting our guard down,
I want to ask you some specific questions about specific
settings because you help people in organizations with situational awareness
using your expertise retired Special Forces retire ger embrace. So
we'll get into that second. I've been talking with people
about and scheduling my trip to Mexico. Hey, look things
got better there, Mike, very quickly imagine that they went
behind the scenes and said we're going to stop all this.
So I'm going to go down to renew healthcare. I'm
going down for the anti aging protocol. And it's not
that I feel old. I mean, I genuinely feel pretty young.
But I'd also like to live a lot longer because
I'm really enjoying life with my wife and I want
to see my daughter continue to grow up and maybe
one day have kids.
Speaker 3: And if I'm going to live, I want to live fruitfully.
Speaker 1: So this is a male clinic level analysis of my body,
starting with the epigenetic aging. What does that look like,
what's my aging arc? And from that then they'll be
informed with that information. When I go down, they'll have
a plan of records. So for me, it's going to
be specific ivs. It will be specific ivs for you.
We're going to spend time in the hyperbrek chamber, which
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they do for me given what they see in the data.
It will be different for you. What I'm excited about.
As well as they give me a kit to take
home so that at home, I can continue to affect
the three to five areas in my body that could
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et cetera. That's the packet of information I'll have for
any doctor with whom I interact. As you know in
my own general contractor. I have a hormone doc. I
have a sports medicine doc, I have a clinic. I'm
on the board of nonprofit board. If I have to
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n U E dot Healthcare. So, Mike, I'm thinking about
some of the events that are upcoming. We have the
Soccer World Finals Championships that are spent to go on
in the United States. Well, and by the way, I
think in Seattle that right, Seattle is it's gonna have
at lest one of these big matches.
Speaker 4: So if you've been down the entire West coast, okay, so.
Speaker 1: The entire West Coast is gonna have all these soccer matches,
all sorts of rich targets of opportunity. If they called you,
Michael Rourkan said, hey, you can't tell us the secret
things you do. But on the very basics at a
big event like this, or we're going to have a
major we have a major series of events coming up
at our church. We'll have over a weekend, We'll have
seventeen to twenty thousand people in and out of our church.
So what are the top lines given this this situation
we find ourselves.
Speaker 4: In for people attending World Cup events, the stadium itself
is going to be pretty secure. The vulnerability is the
crowds outside before they get inside the secure perimeter. Like
back during football season, I was at one of the
Seattle Seahawks playoff games. There's plenty of bars and restaurants
right outside the stadium. They're not part of the stadium
security perimeter. They're packed full of people. Those are soft
targets at your church, you know, I imagine you have
some sort of security team there is. Yeah, it's the
it's the arriving is the departure. What happens when the
service starts. You know, if the doors are locked and
everyone's inside, including all their security people, you still have vulnerability.
You need some security folks on the outside making sure
no one's approaching, no one's conducting surveillance against the facility,
and ready to strike the congreghens as they depart. So
it's a it's the whole perimeter has to be looked at,
and individuals have to learn situational awareness. And when you
think about it, with everyone's situationally aware and it becomes
a team sport, then you've got what I call all
hands security. Now every person is a security sensor, every
person is a uh a de facto security officer, and
thus everyone becomes safer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it shouldn't be just someone who lives in
a state of vigilance, a low key paranoia like me
who sees when I'm at the youth group and we're
outside hanging out and I see a car I've never
seen go through the parking lot three times on a
slow roll past the door. I shouldn't be the only
guy going why are they doing that? Why do they
keep slowing down at the door? What are they looking for?
And you know you were talking about a security team.
I actually witnessed this going on. Decided to walk over
to our security team and they're sat up front the door.
I came up and said, hey, guys, I go, are
you talking about the car that's coming by? I go, yeah,
because yeah, we're on that we're curious too, And sure
enough ups pulled some Sheriff's deputies and did a little
pullover since they weren't respecting the stop signs, et cetera,
and found a reason to chat with them. And it
wasn't a big deal. It was just someone looking for
their brother and sister, et cetera. So if you're saying
that situation awareness is a team sport, it should have
been every eyeball on that car saying that's wrong, that's
out of place.
Speaker 4: Correct, and it's situationally where aren't paranoid because they don't
have to be, just live in a heightened state of awareness.
And also that person said they're looking for their brother
or sister. Was that just a cover story? Were they
really conducting some sort of pre attack surveillance saying is
this a target I want to hit? But then since
but since the police were called and they were pulled over,
they might decide, Okay, this isn't the place for me.
I'm gonna go look for a place where no one's
paying attention. And that's actually happened before I want to
say the the Nashville Christian School shooter. I think they
originally planned to hit a different school and thought, oh, nope,
they have too much security. This has happened I think
at other schools before too. Original target was was declined
the paulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida, that isis inspired a shooter.
I think he had planned other and you know, other
targets first and saw like I think, I can't remember
if it was a Disneyland or Walt disney World type venue,
but okay, they have security. I'm gonna go find a
place where there's no real security.
Speaker 1: So there's a purpose then, also that in having evident security,
because we have a ton of guys men and women
in our church who are undercover and you don't know
who they are. They're just in our concealed carry defensive
you know, tactical shooting courses that we hold all the time.
Speaker 3: You wouldn't know that.
Speaker 1: You'll see some of them with an earpiece, but many
of them don't have earpieces. They just respond to other signals.
But there's a purpose then to having your facility have
evident security. These guys are venue shopping. They come and say, oh,
they've got fifteen guys outside here.
Speaker 3: This is not our place.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, I would love to see church websites talk
about how safe you know their facility is, and even
ask for you know, out in the open, ask for
volunteers to join the security team. That tells anyone doing
online reconnaissance what we call internet casing, that Okay, this
place has some sort of security posture. Then when members
of the security team, whether they're even identify security, they
see something, then they do something. Maybe someone in the
parking lot could have like flagged the car down, say hey,
can I help you? And then while you're there, if
you make note of the license plate. So I mean
there are certain high level hotels that do the cel
of security members in the lobby of that hotel. They're
not overtly security, but they're clearly working for the hotel,
and they will come up to someone in the lobby
who appears to be looking around taking pictures. Hi, may
I help you? Yeah, you have that initial encounter. Then
that then you know someone's remembering that face, that person's
getting noted on the security cameras, and then you can
kind of have a bolo. Hey, let's be on the
lookout for this person again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And this is what you do in part of
your job and part of your career is helping organizations
with this. So how do people get in touch with
you to make sure that they are as secure as
possible as.
Speaker 3: For like just not even a week yet into this war.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, contact us on our website at opcon dot com,
a d opcn dot com and they can email us
at AOC dot security at opcon dot com. And you
can also sign up for our career otic newsletters and
see some of the other articles I've written for International Magazine,
some of the other media appearances like I've done with
you where we talk about this stuff. We're at AOC
Underscore Security on both Instagram and x.
Speaker 3: Good and we'll put those links into the show notes. Mike,
I pray for our troops. I want this over.
Speaker 1: I don't think you enjoy loss of life. I don't
as a Christian. I want God to end this as
quickly as possible. I'm so proud of our troops. I'm
so thankful for them. No great of love has man
than the lead down his life for a brother. And
on that topic, I thank you for what you do
for us and did for us, and God bless you.
Thank you for coming on the show, and.
Speaker 4: Thank you Tod I hope we don't lose any more
people than we have. And yeah, we'll talk. I'm sure
we'll talk again.
Speaker 3: Well, and I join you in exactly that thought. This
is the Todd Herman Show.
Speaker 1: Please go, be well, be strong, be kind, and please
make every effort to walk in the light of Christ.