Speaker 1: Good morning everybody, Corey Us Bloody History. We're back. Sorry
Speaker 1: about the week off. I just didn't plan my schedule
Speaker 1: appropriately once I got back from Miami. But i'm here
Speaker 1: and we'll have a full run of shows the next
Speaker 1: couple weeks. So we're gonna go back in time today
Speaker 1: and we're gonna jump back to the David Ferry file.
Speaker 1: I started this like two or three years ago, and
Speaker 1: I didn't get very far. And Fairry is the most
Speaker 1: important person in as far as the research goes in
Speaker 1: the Kennedy assassination. It's the easiest person to prove is
Speaker 1: in Dallas and was one of the shooters on the knoll.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, let's hop right back into it. This
Speaker 1: is the beginning of file one, Section two. This collection
Speaker 1: of documents is kind of a mix of FBI and
Speaker 1: Garrison files. I don't think Garrison compiled this one. This
Speaker 1: one's four hundred and something pages. The Garrison file is
Speaker 1: three hundred and something pages, but it was a very little overlap.
Speaker 1: All right, So here we go. This is a memo
Speaker 1: February twenty eighth, nineteen sixty seven to Jim Garrison from
Speaker 1: Andrew Scambra and Louis Ivan reference the interview with David Ferry.
Speaker 1: On Saturday, February eighteenth, nineteen sixty seven, at approximately three
Speaker 1: thirty pm, Louis Ivan and I interviewed David Ferry in
Speaker 1: his apartment on Louisiana Avenue Parkway. As we approached the house,
Speaker 1: Faerry came out on the porch and looked at us
Speaker 1: and began to walk down the steps to open the
Speaker 1: front door for us. As he opened the door for us,
Speaker 1: he told Ivan that he was glad we finally decided
Speaker 1: to come and talk to him, as he had been
Speaker 1: trying to get in touch with Garrison or Ivan for
Speaker 1: several days. He told me hello and asked me what
Speaker 1: I was doing with Ivan, and I explained to him
Speaker 1: that I was an assistant DA now and thought that
Speaker 1: I would come along with Ivan since we knew each
Speaker 1: other from the airport. He told us to go on
Speaker 1: upstairs and that he would follow us, but that it
Speaker 1: would take him some time to climb up the stairs
Speaker 1: as he was sick and weak and that he had
Speaker 1: not been able to keep anything in his stomach for
Speaker 1: a couple of days. He moaned and groaned with each
Speaker 1: step he took from the stairs. From the bottom of
Speaker 1: the top. This behavior by Fairy impressed me as phony act,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure he was not as sick as he
Speaker 1: pretended to be. Once inside the apartment, Ivan and I
Speaker 1: sat down, and Fairry laid down on the sofa in
Speaker 1: the front room. He was wearing pants and a T
Speaker 1: shirt and had two pillows under him. There was a
Speaker 1: young man in the apartment in his early twenties who
Speaker 1: was a friend of Fairiy's from the Lakefront Airport. His
Speaker 1: name was Bert Johnson, and I remember him from when
Speaker 1: I was working out there. Fairry had given him flying instructions,
Speaker 1: and he told me he had already acquired his license.
Speaker 1: My first conversation with Ferry centered around airport talk and
Speaker 1: about people we both knew from the airport. He said
Speaker 1: he had often wondered what had happened to me, and
Speaker 1: that he thought I'd gone into private practice. He said
Speaker 1: that he knew a lot of it and they were
Speaker 1: all dumb, with a few exceptions. He then said that
Speaker 1: he the reason he had called us was that he
Speaker 1: was getting concerned over our investigation. He'd heard all kinds
Speaker 1: of rumors that he was going to get arrested and
Speaker 1: that he wanted to find out if these rumors were true.
Speaker 1: He said that as a result of these rumors, he'd
Speaker 1: been asked to leave the airport and now he was
Speaker 1: concerned over how he was going to make a living.
Speaker 1: That flying was his only enjoyment in life. Ferry said
Speaker 1: he was suffering from encyphalitis and that he could not
Speaker 1: get any rests because of the radio, TV and press
Speaker 1: boys hounding him to death. Ferry said his phone rings
Speaker 1: from morning till nights, and that he talked to Sam
Speaker 1: Depino from Channel twelve until early hours of the morning.
Speaker 1: Fairy said Sam was trying to con him, but that
Speaker 1: he was too smart to fall for his line, and
Speaker 1: that all those people were bastards. Just then the phone
Speaker 1: rang and it was a reporter from the Times Picky Un,
Speaker 1: and he said that he would positively not grant interviews
Speaker 1: and that he was tired of all those bastards calling
Speaker 1: him up. Thet or must have told him something, because
Speaker 1: he said he was not calling him a bastard personally,
Speaker 1: but referring to the news media in general. He then
Speaker 1: hung up the phone. Ferry picked up the Pickie Un
Speaker 1: paper and said he wanted to show us portions of
Speaker 1: the story that really disturbed him. He said the newspapers
Speaker 1: can kill anybody they want to, and that it was
Speaker 1: never more evident than the case of Carlos Marcelo and
Speaker 1: Jimmy Hoffa. Ferry said the newspapers tried to frame both
Speaker 1: of these guys. Then he talked about the Marcello trial
Speaker 1: that he was working in nineteen sixty three and how
Speaker 1: the newspapers tried to crucify Marcello. He said Marcelo made
Speaker 1: asses out of all of them when he was acquitted.
Speaker 1: Ferry said he wanted to know why we brought Miguel
Speaker 1: Torres back from Angola. He said he knew what people
Speaker 1: would do to get out of prison, and he thought
Speaker 1: Garrison was trying to frame up by using Miguel Torres.
Speaker 1: Ferry said that if this would happen, he would sue
Speaker 1: us and everybody. Ferry said he'd been contacted by some
Speaker 1: big attorneys in Washington, d c. And they wanted to
Speaker 1: help him. Ferry also said he did not like the
Speaker 1: way Garrison was answering questions put to him by newsman
Speaker 1: and that Garrison should make a definite statement and not
Speaker 1: say no comment. He said the no comment stirs more
Speaker 1: shit than an hour's speech. Ferry said Garrison knew this
Speaker 1: and that he was obviously using this for publicity. I
Speaker 1: assured him that Garrison was not trying to frame anybody,
Speaker 1: and that he was avoiding the press and he could
Speaker 1: not say much less to the press than no comment. Then,
Speaker 1: Fairry said he wanted to talk to Garrison personally. We
Speaker 1: told him we would try to arrange a meeting in
Speaker 1: the near future. Ferry then began to curse Jack Martin
Speaker 1: and said Martin started all of this stuff. He's correct,
Speaker 1: by the way, Martin did start all this. Ferry said
Speaker 1: Martin was jealous of him because of his relationship with
Speaker 1: g Ray Gill, and that Martin was trying to ruin him.
Speaker 1: He said Martin is a screwball and should be locked up.
Speaker 1: Ferry then said Garrison had better be careful because he
Speaker 1: knew some people were trying to torpedo him. That he
Speaker 1: knew of three people on a local level and a
Speaker 1: couple people on a national level who are trying to
Speaker 1: ruin them politically and are trying to embarrass him politically
Speaker 1: with this assassination investigation. Ferry said he did not want
Speaker 1: to mention the names of the local people, but Garrison
Speaker 1: should be smart enough to know who they were. He
Speaker 1: then began to talk about Frank Klein and inferred that
Speaker 1: this man was one of the local persons trying to
Speaker 1: destroy Garrison. However, when Ivan asked him if Klein was
Speaker 1: one of the people he was referring to, Ferry said
Speaker 1: that in time we would find out. Faery. Ferry did
Speaker 1: say that Hoover was one of the people on a
Speaker 1: national level who was trying to destroy Garrison because Garrison
Speaker 1: had dared to criticize the Bureau and has the whole
Speaker 1: country wondering if they're as smart as the Keystone cops. However,
Speaker 1: Ferry said he was just glad about this. As far
Speaker 1: as he's concerned, all cops are bastards and he has
Speaker 1: no use for any of them. Ferry also said he
Speaker 1: had heard that some people in Washington were talking about
Speaker 1: the investigation, and that two days before the story broke
Speaker 1: in the newspaper, some people were saying that Garrison would
Speaker 1: call a press conference Friday and give the story to
Speaker 1: the press. Ferry didn't say. Ferry said he didn't want
Speaker 1: to give out any names as he didn't want JEdgar
Speaker 1: on his ass too. He then asked to speak to
Speaker 1: Garrison again because he wanted to see if he were
Speaker 1: serious about the whole thing. I told him that Garrison
Speaker 1: was more than serious, and that we were checking out
Speaker 1: all our leads and information. I then told Fairy he
Speaker 1: could tell me what he wanted to say, and I
Speaker 1: would tell Garrison for him. Ferry said he wanted to
Speaker 1: talk to Garrison himself and look him in the face.
Speaker 1: I then asked Ferry to tell me where he was
Speaker 1: on November twenty second, sixty three and how he'd become
Speaker 1: so involved in this. Ferry said it was all on
Speaker 1: account of a trip he made to Houston, Texas on
Speaker 1: the afternoon of the twenty second to ice skate. He
Speaker 1: said that all he wanted to do was relax after
Speaker 1: the Marcello trial, and he just had the urge to
Speaker 1: go ice skating. Ferry said, as it had turned out,
Speaker 1: it was the worst trip he'd ever made in his life.
Speaker 1: I asked Fairy what he did in Houston. Ferry said,
Speaker 1: ice skate? What else? I said, I don't know, Dave,
Speaker 1: you tell me. Ferry said that I was a newcomer
Speaker 1: around the game and that my office knew more about
Speaker 1: the trip than he did, Ferry said, ask your boss.
Speaker 1: He had me arrested. When I got back into town.
Speaker 1: I was booked as a fugitive from Texas and I've
Speaker 1: never been to Texas. I asked him to tell me
Speaker 1: about the arrest, as I didn't believe we would arrest
Speaker 1: a man who was perfectly innocent. Ferry told me I
Speaker 1: had a lot to learn about life, and that I
Speaker 1: was a starry eyed kid right out of law school,
Speaker 1: and I was still believing the inscriptions on the courthouse walls.
Speaker 1: Ferry said that after a while, when you get a
Speaker 1: little smarter, you'll see that this is a stinking world,
Speaker 1: and what I told you at the airport is true.
Speaker 1: I told Fairy that what he said may be true,
Speaker 1: but that still doesn't tell me about the arrest. Ferry said,
Speaker 1: all right, I'll go through the speel again for your benefit.
Speaker 1: Ferry said that after he had taken his trip to Texas,
Speaker 1: he and bobuf and Coffee stopped in Alexandria, and he
Speaker 1: called g Ray Gill ladies and gentlemen. I still haven't
Speaker 1: figured out why they went to Alexandria. It's kind of
Speaker 1: out of the way if they're just on their way home.
Speaker 1: By a long shot, so I still don't know why
Speaker 1: they went there. There was a hotel there connected to
Speaker 1: clay Shaw that the FBI heavily investigated. Don't know what
Speaker 1: that means, but I believe that Alexandria stuff might have
Speaker 1: to do a clay Shaw, But I just don't know yet.
Speaker 1: Gil told him the police were looking for him and
Speaker 1: that they wanted to ask him some questions about the assassination.
Speaker 1: He said that then the draw he drove back to
Speaker 1: New Orleans and dropped boboof off at his apartment on
Speaker 1: Louisiana Avenue Parkway so he could go upstairs and call
Speaker 1: some girls for them. Oh bullshit, He said that. He
Speaker 1: and coffee then went to the grocery store. He said
Speaker 1: that when he and coffee was returning to the apartment,
Speaker 1: he noticed a bunch of cars around his apartment and
Speaker 1: a lot of people. Ferry said he figured it was
Speaker 1: a police so he went back to the store and telephoned.
Speaker 1: Ferry said, some dumb ox answered the phone and tried
Speaker 1: to suck him into conversation, but he just hung up.
Speaker 1: He said. He then dropped coffee off and went to
Speaker 1: Hammond Louisiana. I asked him where in Hammond. Ferry said,
Speaker 1: by a friend. I asked him what friend, and he
Speaker 1: burst out laughing and said, I'll say one thing for you, you
Speaker 1: sure try hard. He then told me not to try
Speaker 1: and investigate him, because he could show me in my
Speaker 1: whole office how to investigate. I didn't press the issue
Speaker 1: any further, but later on he told me that he
Speaker 1: did not stay in a motel, but with a friend
Speaker 1: who would remain anonymous. Besides, he said, I got friends
Speaker 1: all over the world. I said that was very interesting,
Speaker 1: but that I wanted his opinion on one other small matter.
Speaker 1: He asked what I said, Dave, who shot the president?
Speaker 1: He said, well, that's an interesting question. I've got my
Speaker 1: own thoughts about it. Ferry then sent his friend into
Speaker 1: another room to get an anatomy book and a pathology book,
Speaker 1: and he pulled out a sheet of paper and began
Speaker 1: to sketch on it. Ferry drew a sketch of the
Speaker 1: Texas School Book Depository and of the parade route and
Speaker 1: of the area in general. That's interesting, huh. Ferry said
Speaker 1: that before he would definitely draw a conclusion, he would
Speaker 1: have to have more information in facts. Ferry then went
Speaker 1: into a long spiel about the projectory of the trajectory
Speaker 1: of the bullets in relation to heightened distance. He said
Speaker 1: that different guns and shells have different trajectories, and that
Speaker 1: bullets tend to drop as they are shot. Ferry said
Speaker 1: the Warran Commission did not have enough pertinent scientific information
Speaker 1: to come to an objective conclusion. He said he did
Speaker 1: not read the warrant report, but what he read proved
Speaker 1: to him that the Commission did not know what they
Speaker 1: were doing. Fairy went into a long spiel about JFK's
Speaker 1: neck wound. In the course of his lecture on anatomy
Speaker 1: and pathology, he named every bone in the human body
Speaker 1: and every hard and soft muscle area. He talked extensively
Speaker 1: about the dermis and epidermis. Fairry said that if the
Speaker 1: same bullet that struck JFK in the back or neck
Speaker 1: eventually struck Connolly, that Connelly or Kennedy had to be
Speaker 1: a contortionist. He then rattled off some more scientific information
Speaker 1: in regard to bones and skin and how a bullet
Speaker 1: a bullet decreases in speed when it strikes an object,
Speaker 1: and how the same bullet could not possibly have caused
Speaker 1: all that damage. Ferry said that the question would not
Speaker 1: be answered because the doctor who performed the tricheotomy had
Speaker 1: ten thumbs and left unanswered the most important question of
Speaker 1: all time. Fairy then laughed and said that doctors are
Speaker 1: almost as stupid as lawyers, but that lawyers are worse
Speaker 1: because they are always in your pocket. Okay, this is
Speaker 1: an interesting couple sentences. Let me reread this and see
Speaker 1: if you catch what I caught. Ferry said that. Ferry
Speaker 1: said that question would never be answered because the doctor
Speaker 1: who performed the tracheotomy had ten thumbs and left unanswered
Speaker 1: the most important question of all time. That's pretty interesting
Speaker 1: because my current belief is that Fairy fired the first
Speaker 1: shot that struck Kennedy in the throat. I've been reviewing
Speaker 1: that lately, and I'm open to some alteration of that theory,
Speaker 1: which I'll get into in a future show, but that's
Speaker 1: currently where I stand on it. And for him to
Speaker 1: be making comments about the tracheotomy when I believe he's
Speaker 1: the one who did the throat shot, it's pretty interesting.
Speaker 1: Pretty interesting. Why he would bring that up, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I then said, in other words, Dave, you don't buy
Speaker 1: the one shot theory. Ferry said he wasn't saying anything
Speaker 1: because he didn't want jed Gar Hoover on his tail.
Speaker 1: That he had enough with Garrison to contend with. Ferry
Speaker 1: said that in time he would work the whole thing out,
Speaker 1: and then laughingly said he would contact our office. I
Speaker 1: noticed at this point that he was in very good
Speaker 1: spirits and was laughing and joking, and even commented that
Speaker 1: he's feeling pretty good now that he said three cups
Speaker 1: of coffee already and hasn't thrown up yet. Ferry then
Speaker 1: received another phone call from Steve Lyttleton and his wife
Speaker 1: and joked with Littleton's wife about how he knew that
Speaker 1: she had dated Lee Harvey Oswald and that he was
Speaker 1: going to tell Garrison on her. She must have told
Speaker 1: him that she had seen his picture in the paper,
Speaker 1: and he replied that he didn't like it because it
Speaker 1: made him look unphotogenic. She also must have asked Fairy
Speaker 1: if it was him that some people identified with somebody
Speaker 1: or at some place, and he said that the people
Speaker 1: are mistaken or he had a common face. After he
Speaker 1: hung up the phone, we told him we had to leave.
Speaker 1: Fairry said he had more to tell us about the
Speaker 1: one shot theory. We told him to save it for
Speaker 1: another day, as it was dark already and we had
Speaker 1: to meet Garrison. I then asked him if he would
Speaker 1: like to tell me some more about his trip to Hammond,
Speaker 1: and he smiled and said, go to Hell. I then
Speaker 1: asked if he stayed with Clay Shaw. He said, who's
Speaker 1: Clay Shaw? I said, all right, if that doesn't ring
Speaker 1: a bell, how about Clay Bertrand. He said, who's Clay Bertrand.
Speaker 1: I said, Clay Bertrand and Clay Shaw the same person.
Speaker 1: He asked who said that? I said, Dean Andrews told us.
Speaker 1: He said, Dean Andrews might tell you, guys anything, you
Speaker 1: know how Dean Andrews is. Ferry then started to go
Speaker 1: into another lecture and we told him we had to go.
Speaker 1: He followed us down the stairs and walked out on
Speaker 1: the sidewalk with us. Ferry asked Ivan to be sure
Speaker 1: and call him. Ivan assured he wouldn't be left. So
Speaker 1: that's an interesting little interaction. Right. You can see where
Speaker 1: parts of the fairy stuff from the movie JFK was
Speaker 1: pulled from this report right when he asked him, Dave,
Speaker 1: who shot the president? Right? So interesting? Huh? All right?
Speaker 1: So the next page in this document, I was gonna
Speaker 1: skip it, but look in looking at it real quick,
Speaker 1: I might as well. Because I never talk about what's
Speaker 1: his name, case, Miguel or whatever the fuck. I never
Speaker 1: he's to me. He's a side quest, you know, not
Speaker 1: necessary for the main story. So I don't really talk
Speaker 1: about him much. But this document here is dated March first.
Speaker 1: It looks like, you know, I can't say offhand, it
Speaker 1: kind of looks like a CIA document. There's no real
Speaker 1: heading on it. It just has the date March first,
Speaker 1: sixty nine heading Jones Harris underlined Jones. Harris hasn't seen
Speaker 1: Miguel for a month. Last word from him was cards too.
Speaker 1: And I can't read the next couple of words something
Speaker 1: see below from Mexico and Burma. I can't read the
Speaker 1: next I can't He's a couple letters in the period.
Speaker 1: I can't read it. Miguel didn't work out his deal
Speaker 1: with CIA. Miguel gives Harris the following names looks like
Speaker 1: mew Reiser S Junior, John Gullet, James J. Looks like
Speaker 1: Mike's m yk e. S. First name redacted. Pittman ex
Speaker 1: Navy Captain X Navy commander Thomas. Ummmm, it says Negel
Speaker 1: saw at three eight seven thirty three. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: what that is, and then Wong and then the handwritten
Speaker 1: name Al with a question mark and says Chinese type CIA.
Speaker 1: Negel gave Harris info re following two who he said
Speaker 1: had a hand in Dallas, both working for an outfit
Speaker 1: called Movement to Free Cuba headed by Tracy Barnes. One
Speaker 1: Leopaldo Leopoldo. Lawrence Howard Caucasian Mexican YEP twenty seven to
Speaker 1: twenty nine, two pounds, five foot ten to five eleven
Speaker 1: black hair, heavy build, Alpha sixty six YEP Lawrence Howard.
Speaker 1: See Lawrence Howard is Leopoldo. I don't know why it's
Speaker 1: such a big fucking mystery anymore. The evidence for Lawrence
Speaker 1: Howard being Leopoldo is everywhere. Wrangle Mail Caucasian Cuban, New
Speaker 1: Mexican twenty eight to thirty hundred and eighty pounds, five
Speaker 1: eleven to six foot, black hair, large eyes, probably Lauren Hall,
Speaker 1: although I've never seen that name Wrangle attached to him.
Speaker 1: Both x CIA. This is probably at the time. This
Speaker 1: information feels like it's at the time when they were
Speaker 1: calling William Seymour techs when they were out in California
Speaker 1: because they were using those aliases out there working in
Speaker 1: a job for some reason. It says both XCIA photos
Speaker 1: in Jackson Square, New Orleans, of Lee Harvey Oswald talking
Speaker 1: to both. Now that's not true. Ferry also knew both. Yes,
Speaker 1: that is true. Leon Oswald Mail Caucasian American twenty four
Speaker 1: to twenty six hundred fifty pounds five eight or five nine.
Speaker 1: Leon Oswald. Well, that name was used twice. It was
Speaker 1: used at Odeo's and it was used at the party
Speaker 1: by Carry Thornley. So Kerry Thornley and William Seymour both
Speaker 1: used the name leon Oswald, which is pretty interesting. Says Mail,
Speaker 1: Caucasian American twenty four twenty six hundred and fifty pounds
Speaker 1: five eight or five nine, alive on September fourteenth or fifteenth,
Speaker 1: not alive after September nineteenth, nineteen sixty three. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: not true. Nogel left New Orleans for LA on September sixteenth,
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three. So there might be actually some overlap
Speaker 1: with Miguel being in Los Angeles and our guys Howard
Speaker 1: and Seymour being out there. It says plots one nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty two December Miami, Armory. Oh, interesting, I don't know
Speaker 1: about that. One. Two nineteen sixty three June La the
Speaker 1: Beverly Hilton, and three nineteen sixty three September to Washington,
Speaker 1: September twenty sixth scheduled. Okay, September twenty sixth scheduled. That's
Speaker 1: interesting because all those guys were busy on September twenty
Speaker 1: six All the Oswalds were busy on September twenty sixth.
Speaker 1: Then it says Marina's file in San Antonio in April
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three. Now that's really interesting. I need to
Speaker 1: figure out what's up with San Antonio because it's multiple
Speaker 1: references to San Antonio in the early life of Oswald
Speaker 1: that I can't figure out, and Marina having a file
Speaker 1: in San Antonio. I saw another reference to her in
Speaker 1: San Antonio also, so that's pretty interesting to me. All right,
Speaker 1: moving on, the next one, looks like a teletype, says
Speaker 1: wu At two n PR Collect New Orleans, LA, twenty
Speaker 1: three eleven thirty two PCST Time, Inc. Four Nation Garrison
Speaker 1: and JFK Plot Take two David Ferry from David Snyder,
Speaker 1: time stringer in New Orleans, So it looks like it's
Speaker 1: probably a teletype of a pre release of an article.
Speaker 1: Ben Kate asked me to send full particulars on David
Speaker 1: William Ferry. My first contact with Ferry was a telephone
Speaker 1: call at five thirty pm Friday, February seventeenth, following the
Speaker 1: appearance of the State's items initial story on the Garrison investigation.
Speaker 1: He had read the story and he, he said, was
Speaker 1: tired of remaining silent on the investigation. He felt that
Speaker 1: he was being persecuted by the DA's office and he
Speaker 1: was afraid of arrest. Fairy's voice was nasal and almost inaudible.
Speaker 1: He said he was physically sick. During our first telephone conversation.
Speaker 1: His breathing was unsteady. I asked Fairry when I could
Speaker 1: see him. He told me to make it soon because
Speaker 1: he might change his mind about talking. I told him
Speaker 1: I'd be at his house by six pm. I talked
Speaker 1: to him four and a half hours Friday night. He
Speaker 1: called me at least once every day after that until
Speaker 1: his death. He was extremely sick, he said, with encephalitis.
Speaker 1: He was scared to death of arrest by the District
Speaker 1: Attorney's office, and he was bitterly convinced that there was
Speaker 1: no justice for him in this world. The man investigated
Speaker 1: on two different occasions by the DA's office in connection
Speaker 1: with the assassination met me at the downstairs entrance to
Speaker 1: his apartment at thirty three to three Louisiana Avenue, Parkway.
Speaker 1: His steps were feeble as we climbed the stairs to
Speaker 1: the second floor. He apologized for the slowness, saying that
Speaker 1: he was suffering from encephalitis, but assured me that it
Speaker 1: was not contagious. He also apologized for the condition of
Speaker 1: the apartment. He said the place was being renovated. The
Speaker 1: living room was heavy with the smell of stale cigarettes.
Speaker 1: Every ashtray was heaped with cigarette butts. Furniture greasy from
Speaker 1: sweat and dirt rested on a littered, threadbare carpet. An
Speaker 1: American flag stood in one corner. Next to it was
Speaker 1: a typewriter in a case. Doctor Nicholas Chetta, Orlan's Parish Corner,
Speaker 1: said test showed that the suicide note found in the
Speaker 1: apartment was typed on the typewriter. It is my theory
Speaker 1: that Fairy had just decided on suicide, and the time
Speaker 1: he called me Friday, he may have had the note
Speaker 1: written when I talked to him, especially on the phone.
Speaker 1: It seems to me in retrospect that Faerry just wanted
Speaker 1: to clear himself then cash in. But by the time
Speaker 1: we had finished our conversation, he had perked up a
Speaker 1: little bit. He said he'd like to file a suit
Speaker 1: that would allow him to subpoena Garrison and expose the
Speaker 1: harassment he Fairy was going through. I encouraged him because
Speaker 1: I thought it would be a good story if he
Speaker 1: did file a suit. By the time I left his apartment,
Speaker 1: he was saying they would prepare a suit over the
Speaker 1: weekend to file on Monday. He called Sunday to say
Speaker 1: he planned to get together with an attorney on the suit.
Speaker 1: He said he was feeling better and sounded better. By
Speaker 1: Monday he was working in an attorney's office trying to
Speaker 1: get the suit together. The target of the suit was vague,
Speaker 1: but one of those sued would apparently be Jack Martin,
Speaker 1: a nuts and a self styled private detective who we
Speaker 1: said had supplied Garrison a list of names both in
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three and last year to check out in
Speaker 1: connection with the assassination. Ferry's name was on both lists.
Speaker 1: By this time, Ferry was reading every scrap on the
Speaker 1: Garrison probe and taking almost a happy go lucky attitude
Speaker 1: toward the investigation. It is well known in New Orleans
Speaker 1: that if there is a rift between the FBI and
Speaker 1: the DA's office. Ferry had been down to the FBI's
Speaker 1: office on Monday, he said, to talk to the agents.
Speaker 1: One of the agents told him, I know where you
Speaker 1: were the day Kennedy was assassin assassinated. You were cooling
Speaker 1: your heels with me in Federal District Court. This is
Speaker 1: mentioned in an early file. That's Regis Kennedy they got
Speaker 1: to be talking about. This is mentioned in an earlier file.
Speaker 1: Fairy said the FBI boys were chuckling about the Garrison investigation.
Speaker 1: Ferry asked me if I could find out exactly when
Speaker 1: Oswald was in New Orleans. He said he needed the
Speaker 1: information for his suit. I looked up the dates in
Speaker 1: a condensation of the Warren report and gave it to him.
Speaker 1: He said he was having trouble getting the suit together,
Speaker 1: but it was apparently occupying most of his day. He
Speaker 1: talked to my wife on Tuesday. He had a new
Speaker 1: theory on the trajectory of the bullets that entered Kennedy's body.
Speaker 1: He wanted to take me to a toxicology lab to
Speaker 1: show me what he's talking about with a cadaver. He
Speaker 1: also complained of headaches, but by now he had stopped
Speaker 1: asking me if I thought he would be arrested. He
Speaker 1: had almost become like a spectator as far as the
Speaker 1: Garrison investigation was concerned. He oozed good natured confidence. I
Speaker 1: talked to him Tuesday evening, and he said he'd been
Speaker 1: watching a TV news show with interest. He was in
Speaker 1: a good mood. Wednesday he was dead. The change in
Speaker 1: attitude over the space of almost a week leads me
Speaker 1: to believe that he was at a low ebb when
Speaker 1: he called, but had decided to live and fight back
Speaker 1: after all. For this reason, natural death immediately made more
Speaker 1: sense than suicide. He left a long note, only two
Speaker 1: paragraphs of which have been made public. It has been Oh,
Speaker 1: he left a long note, only two paragraphs of which
Speaker 1: have been made public. Hmmm, where to Fock's the rest
Speaker 1: of it? I wonder now? I want to know. It
Speaker 1: has been described as philosophical in nature, the center of
Speaker 1: things in Fairy's apartment was a coffee table placed in
Speaker 1: front of a couch. It held an overloaded ash tray
Speaker 1: and a cluster of bottles containing pills and liquid medicine.
Speaker 1: The DA's office said fifteen bottles of medicine were found
Speaker 1: in the apartment. I would say that there were many
Speaker 1: on the table on Friday at last, or at least,
Speaker 1: it was the room of a man who had given up.
Speaker 1: Faerry either propped himself against the arm of the sofa
Speaker 1: or reclined full length against two soiled pillows as he
Speaker 1: related the details of troubles that had reduced him from
Speaker 1: a man of means to poverty. It is a matter
Speaker 1: of record that Ferry was arrested in nineteen sixty one
Speaker 1: on a morals charge in Jefferson Parish, with committing a
Speaker 1: crime against nature and indecent behavior with juveniles. New Orleans
Speaker 1: police reported Ferry had attempted to intimidate one witness, a
Speaker 1: sixteen year old boy, who told officers that he signed
Speaker 1: a paper promising not to prefer charges against Ferry. Other
Speaker 1: youths told police Ferry took them on airline flights to
Speaker 1: Houston and Corpus Christi, Texas. On different occasions. One boy
Speaker 1: told officers he had flown to Cuba with Ferry, and
Speaker 1: another reported to police at Fairry had asked him to
Speaker 1: drive a Cuban citizen to Miami. Ferry was not convicted.
Speaker 1: All the charges were no prost, but about that time
Speaker 1: Ferry was bumped from the payroll of Eastern Airlines, where
Speaker 1: he'd been a respected pilot. In our conversation, Fairry contended
Speaker 1: he was framed by Jefferson Parish authorities, and in fact
Speaker 1: authorities tried to shake him down for five thousand dollars
Speaker 1: to drop the matter. Fairry was bitter at the world.
Speaker 1: He said the courts offered no justice, that the federal
Speaker 1: government offered no protection to citizens. From time to time
Speaker 1: he broke into an almost NonStop narrative of his troubles
Speaker 1: to lash out at the law, at justice in the
Speaker 1: news media. His head covered with a wig that was
Speaker 1: a rusty shade of red, his shoes off, and a
Speaker 1: cigarette or cup of coffee constantly in his hand, Ferry
Speaker 1: talked on and on. Once he questioned the Warrant Commission
Speaker 1: report on the trajectory of the bullets that crashed into
Speaker 1: Kennedy's body. He dragged books on anatomy and physiology from
Speaker 1: a back room and launched into a medical dissertation on
Speaker 1: the assassination. He seemed to know the human body like
Speaker 1: his living room, and you caught flashes of brilliance as
Speaker 1: he expounded on his theories. It was because of his
Speaker 1: knowledge of science that he had become a part time investigator.
Speaker 1: Ferry is a pilot, he told me, But in k
Speaker 1: complex cases involving science, several attorneys have founded advantageous to
Speaker 1: have me investigate for them. He worked for top attorneys
Speaker 1: in towns, such as g Ray Gill, defense lawyer from
Speaker 1: mafia character Carlos Marcello. Whatever else he was, Ferry was
Speaker 1: respected as an investigator and a pilot, considered by several
Speaker 1: people around town as a top flier and instructor. Fairy
Speaker 1: would have been forty nine years old in March. The
Speaker 1: reason for the Texas trip on the day Kennedy was shot,
Speaker 1: said Faerry was spur the moment thing. One guy remembered
Speaker 1: there was a nice skating rink in Houston, so we
Speaker 1: decided to go skating. This version is disputed by one
Speaker 1: of the two persons who went with Ferry. He said
Speaker 1: the trip was planned for a week, and no hunting
Speaker 1: equipment was taken, was Fairy's claim. Faerry's mind dwelled on arrest.
Speaker 1: He said several times he wanted me to arrange a
Speaker 1: lie detecer test for him in case he was hauled in.
Speaker 1: I asked Ferry if he thought the Garrison investigation was
Speaker 1: a phony? Why? Certainly? He said, how could it be
Speaker 1: anything else? Again, he said, my assessment of Oswald is
Speaker 1: such that he would be incapable of conspiring because he
Speaker 1: would be incapable of any interpersonal RelA relationship, especially in
Speaker 1: anything as delicate as a conspiracy to kill only a
Speaker 1: nut would be a co conspirator because he was so
Speaker 1: erratic of the investigation, Faerry said, Psychologically, I think it
Speaker 1: is an utter waste of time. I understand that Tonight
Speaker 1: television carried a story quoting a doctor who treated Ferry
Speaker 1: as saying that Ferry had been extremely sick three weeks
Speaker 1: before we called the paper. The doctor said, Ferry decided
Speaker 1: to call me at the newspaper because his friends had
Speaker 1: stopped calling him. When he called to find out why,
Speaker 1: he told him the DA had been talking to them.
Speaker 1: This was apparently the last straw. TV also quotes the
Speaker 1: doctor as being told by Ferry that he wanted to
Speaker 1: file five million dollar lawsuit against Garrison. Ferry told me
Speaker 1: the suit would be against Jack Martin, whom he said
Speaker 1: started everything, and United Press International for something they had carried.
Speaker 1: I am vague on this point. One more point. Ferry
Speaker 1: was listed in the city directory as a psychologist regards
Speaker 1: David Snyder interesting stuff. Interesting stuff. So let's continue on.
Speaker 1: Next one is stamped Life. I'm assuming Life magazine to
Speaker 1: billings in Haskell from Angle off Washington. The Army was
Speaker 1: able to confirm only the barest outline of what you
Speaker 1: already knew about Fairy's military background, but it is hard
Speaker 1: the hard confirmation. He enlisted in the Army Reserve Corps
Speaker 1: on the thirteenth of April nineteen fifty. He gave his
Speaker 1: birth date is March twenty eighth, nineteen eighteen. Was given
Speaker 1: serial number e R one five two nine six zero
Speaker 1: four nine. He was on active duty Fort Unknown from
Speaker 1: August sixth until August twentieth, and from August twenty eighth
Speaker 1: until November twenty fifth, all in nineteen fifty. That break
Speaker 1: apparently was some sort of leave. He was discharged on
Speaker 1: April seventeenth, nineteen fifty three, in New Orleans. Sorry it's
Speaker 1: so skimpy, but the Army says it's all it has.
Speaker 1: Since reserve records from that time are not kept in
Speaker 1: the Pentagon, and no one really seems to know where
Speaker 1: they are. So interesting, so David Ferry confirmed Army reserve again.
Speaker 1: I'm convinced that Army Reserve is just a cover for intelligence.
Speaker 1: And this time period of April of nineteen fifty this
Speaker 1: comes right after a time when in nineteen forty seven
Speaker 1: or forty eight, Ferry was seen with clay Shaw at
Speaker 1: the airport in Venice, Florida, the same airport the nine
Speaker 1: to eleven hijackers trained at. It was least to clay
Speaker 1: Shaw directly. Fascinating piece of the puzzle there to me.
Speaker 1: It shows David Ferry was CIA from the very beginning
Speaker 1: forty seven and the new new clay Shaw probably from
Speaker 1: that point onward. And what else then after that? David Ferry,
Speaker 1: after he's seen at the Venice airport, he is His
Speaker 1: tax returns show he lived in Tampa, Florida nineteen forty
Speaker 1: nine and he had two dependents. Eastern Airlines determined he
Speaker 1: had a son David Ferry Junior, who was a lieutenant
Speaker 1: in the Marine Corps in nineteen sixty two or sixty three,
Speaker 1: which means that he would have been born in the
Speaker 1: early nineteen forties. Somebody he needs to pick up that
Speaker 1: investigation figure out who David Ferry Junior is. I can
Speaker 1: find absolutely nothing on the guy. What else is there?
Speaker 1: So right right after that IRS document from forty nine,
Speaker 1: he enlists and after being seen with Clay Shaw. I see,
Speaker 1: I'm assuming he's CIA from forty seven onward if he's
Speaker 1: seen maclay Shaw all the way back then. And then
Speaker 1: he enlisted in the Army Reserve Corps, which would give
Speaker 1: him some sort of military payroll, I guess, and identification
Speaker 1: and a cover, right Like I'm convinced reserves are cover,
Speaker 1: Like goddamn Tulci Gabbard was reserves for goddamn ever, she's
Speaker 1: fucking intelligence for sure now the DNI, And so I
Speaker 1: think that's all reserves really are for a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Oh right. February twenty first, sixty seven memo to Billings
Speaker 1: from Chandler here with two pick up photos of Arkachia
Speaker 1: Smith plus confidential report confident on conversation with R. It's
Speaker 1: just the initial R. I don't know who R is.
Speaker 1: It's our underlined periodical have unofficial OK to copy photos
Speaker 1: or part of photos, and official arrangements on use, payment
Speaker 1: or credit wasn't discussed. Request soonest return of photos to
Speaker 1: me air mail special delivery had lunched this afternoon with
Speaker 1: R and her husband. So ours a woman at the
Speaker 1: Emerald Door restaurant. She says two nights ago she received
Speaker 1: a call from a man who identified himself a call
Speaker 1: and later met a man who identified himself and said
Speaker 1: her husband had once done him large favor. Informer said,
Speaker 1: under no circumstances once his name revealed, and she didn't
Speaker 1: tell me. Informant says, in nineteen fifty nine through nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty one he was a member of CAP Group here
Speaker 1: and a member of the Marine Reserve Unit at Alvin
Speaker 1: Calendar Field, a Navy Reserve air station in Plaquemines Parish,
Speaker 1: twenty miles from New Orleans. That's an interesting one, Alvin
Speaker 1: Calendar Field that should probably be looked into. Informant is
Speaker 1: electronics technician who has several federal contracts, says in nineteen
Speaker 1: fifty nine, he because of CAAP connections and electronics training.
Speaker 1: Approached by Ferry, who he knew well, and Arcocia, they
Speaker 1: asked if he would help in training anti Castro guerrillas
Speaker 1: being trained by Ferry and Arcocia in an abandoned portion
Speaker 1: of Calendar Oh. So they were using Calendar Field to
Speaker 1: train these guys outside of New Orleans with live ammunition
Speaker 1: and m ones and other military ordinance information. Informant declined
Speaker 1: because of his government contracts, but agreed to act as
Speaker 1: a repository of information for Ferry and Arcoca in case
Speaker 1: they ever get into trouble and need someone to testify
Speaker 1: to their activities. Because of that relationship, he was kept
Speaker 1: well posted. He says, revolutionaries operated at Field under guise
Speaker 1: of being a CAAP group, which they weren't Aha, so
Speaker 1: Ferry was using the CAAP group as a cover for
Speaker 1: his revolutionary training. His Marine Reserve unit at one time
Speaker 1: was asked to help train this group, and he personally
Speaker 1: observed Ferry and Arcocia giving rifle training to a group
Speaker 1: of twenty or so men. At the time. Ferry and
Speaker 1: Arcocia were also employed by US Immigration to be present
Speaker 1: anytime groups of Cuban refugees arrived in New Orleans. In
Speaker 1: an identity and identify known communists, Fyi, r said, State's
Speaker 1: item reporter and time stringer David Snyder asked Ferry about
Speaker 1: working for immigration, and Ferry said no. However, says informant,
Speaker 1: every time refugee group was due to arrive, Arcacia would
Speaker 1: be jailed on pretext by New Orleans police and Ferry
Speaker 1: would be jailed by Jefferson Parish police. When Ferry resided,
Speaker 1: then they thus were prevented from identifying incoming Cubans. Informant
Speaker 1: believes Orleans harassment directed by a then district attorney Richard
Speaker 1: Dowling and jeff harassment directed by Sheriff Jack Fitzgerald interesting, FYI.
Speaker 1: Both had strong Marcelo ties. Informant says Jefferson trial of
Speaker 1: Ferry was a frame. Doesn't know why. In ours presence,
Speaker 1: informant phoned one Jim Marsh, who also knows Ferry and
Speaker 1: belonged to his CAAP group, and Marsh claimed Ferry had
Speaker 1: flown Oswald to Cuba in fifty nine in a Stinson.
Speaker 1: This is not possible, FYI. There is some rumor in
Speaker 1: tow about Ferry going to Cuba in a Stinson, either
Speaker 1: alone or with other people. Gonzales and I were told
Speaker 1: this on visit to West WeGo Airport, but we couldn't
Speaker 1: get any other details. Informant also phoned on Mike Finney,
Speaker 1: who also ce AP group member, and informant asked Finny
Speaker 1: Dave Fay he didn't know Oswald day. Finney replied, yes, sure,
Speaker 1: and so did I. Informant said those persons were among
Speaker 1: those being trained as revolutionaries. That's interesting, and I don't
Speaker 1: know where to fit this into the scheme of things
Speaker 1: fifty nine. Oswald was busy. He was in the fucking
Speaker 1: Marines until what He was in the Marines until September
Speaker 1: of fifty nine, and then he very quickly bounces to
Speaker 1: the Soviet Union. So I don't know what the fun
Speaker 1: when the fuck this could have been unless there was
Speaker 1: some shenanigans with the Marines, but it couldn't have been
Speaker 1: between March and September, So I don't know when the
Speaker 1: fucker could have been. It could have been between that
Speaker 1: January and March period, if at all, but that would
Speaker 1: have been the only time, and he's got a lot
Speaker 1: going on. If he went to Monterey Language School, it's
Speaker 1: a very tight squeeze, so I don't know about this.
Speaker 1: Ivy Rodriguez Junior, who informant says very close to Arcacia
Speaker 1: and should have key information. Johnny Johnston, now associated with
Speaker 1: Tulane University and close to Ferry, addresses fifteen oh three
Speaker 1: Thomas and phonus three sixty one, five three sixty three
Speaker 1: Leyton Martin's phonetic all right next page. Informant said in
Speaker 1: this period nineteen fifty nine to sixty one, Ferry went
Speaker 1: to Guy Banister to see if he could get harassment stopped,
Speaker 1: and Banister showed Ferry an informant letter from House on
Speaker 1: American et cetera, saying that D. A. Dowling was under
Speaker 1: investigation for Communist ties on behalf of Ferry. Informant also
Speaker 1: talked to FBI locally in attempt to ease harassment, and
Speaker 1: was referred to Washington. He was told someone in Hoover's office,
Speaker 1: you'd better not get involved in this thing, and tell
Speaker 1: your friends they better get off of get off out
Speaker 1: of New Orleans. He called Justice Apartment shortly thereafter and
Speaker 1: was told the same thing in almost identical words. He
Speaker 1: had impression Justice Department had been briefed on him by
Speaker 1: the Bureau. He took the advice and stopped all intimate
Speaker 1: association with Ferry and doesn't know what happened to Ferry,
Speaker 1: Arcotia or the Cubans thereafter. Informant also said he was
Speaker 1: told in this period by Ferry and Arcata that illegal
Speaker 1: Jefferson gambling casino Beverley Club was jointly owned by Marcelo
Speaker 1: and Battista, whom he assumed to be the ex dictator.
Speaker 1: He said he didn't know I, Dowling and Fitzgerald were
Speaker 1: harassing f and A Ferry and who the A is,
Speaker 1: but felt they either had been bought off or were
Speaker 1: being used. Informant believes Orlando Piedra of Miami knows details
Speaker 1: of Marcello Battista Beverley Club arrangement. Piedra, as you know,
Speaker 1: was former Battista police chief, came to New Orleans in
Speaker 1: sixty one or thereabouts and bought a house on the
Speaker 1: lake front. Bill Stuckey did State's Item story on him
Speaker 1: at time, showing documents pertaining to Raoul and Fidel Castro
Speaker 1: which Fiedra had stolen it. Says person can who can
Speaker 1: locate Piedra as a doctor Jorge Garcia Montez five two
Speaker 1: zero m Gerona Coral Cables. Another of ours contacts, as
Speaker 1: Garcia Montes, has information about Oswald heretofore unknown. R says
Speaker 1: Arcaca worked for both Battista and Castro. Others inform R
Speaker 1: Riley of Riley Coffee Company called employer of Our's husband.
Speaker 1: Both are members of crime organization or Crime Commission and
Speaker 1: said wanted to see urgently referenced Garrison. Are puzzled about why.
Speaker 1: I told her, Oh, let me reread this. This is interesting.
Speaker 1: Other infos from R. Riley of Riley Coffee Company called
Speaker 1: employer of Our's husband. Both are members of Crime Commission
Speaker 1: and said wanted to see urgently referenced Garrison. Are puzzled
Speaker 1: about why, and I told her don't know. Maybe, but
Speaker 1: Riley was jittery since Oswald once worked for him. See
Speaker 1: it's a big closed intelligence network. Anonymous caller told R
Speaker 1: that Garrison is seeking Manuel Cassata for questioning. OUR has
Speaker 1: been advised to contact Andreas Pinea, patron of Los America
Speaker 1: bar here in, former Batista policeman for info on Ferry
Speaker 1: Arcacia and maybe Oswald. R and her husband both have
Speaker 1: suspicion Electronics informant maybe government agent US government AR says
Speaker 1: she told the Cuban woman here named looks like Sir
Speaker 1: Miglia that Garrison asked her for address of Cuban priests
Speaker 1: named Father testis in Houston. Testis arriving February twenty third
Speaker 1: and is asked to meet with Garrison. R says she's
Speaker 1: willing to continue to feed me information. What she and
Speaker 1: John Wilde's want in return is might help see that
Speaker 1: state's item not embarrassedly scooped up, particularly by local television.
Speaker 1: Said they understand my commitment to Life magazine. I'm assuming,
Speaker 1: but just don't want locally to be locally embarrassed. I
Speaker 1: told R. I thought I could do that with understanding
Speaker 1: I must be protected, and with also proviso that at
Speaker 1: any time it might be cut off from information. They
Speaker 1: are interested in getting specific leads from me, and newspaper
Speaker 1: is quitting story until looks like Garrison is doing something.
Speaker 1: The agreement was more implied than spelled out in words,
Speaker 1: and of course leaves you in the magazine. The option
Speaker 1: of cutting me off from information when and if it
Speaker 1: becomes necessary are said. She heard Wild's originally intended give
Speaker 1: foregoing information to Garrison, but as conduct changed their mind,
Speaker 1: it is my opinion. She and Wilds gave me the
Speaker 1: information so that later they will feel justified in asking
Speaker 1: me what I did with it and what their leads developed.
Speaker 1: I assume this is their motive, since I can't see
Speaker 1: any other. On another matter, clay Shaw's mother has a
Speaker 1: house in Hammond, and it is listed under the name G. L. Shaw. G. L. Shaw.
Speaker 1: Clayshaw's mother PS Pershing has been important source for r
Speaker 1: as to less degree. Judge Frank Shay, all Right, I
Speaker 1: got one more letter we're going to get through, and
Speaker 1: I'll call it here for the day. We'll pick this
Speaker 1: up on probably Monday, December seventh, sixty six. Dear Dick,
Speaker 1: here within to a suggestion concerning television television ads. But
Speaker 1: before getting into that, I have a story to tell you,
Speaker 1: which maybe no more than interesting gossip. But if life
Speaker 1: plans to do more on the assassination, it might be
Speaker 1: worth filing. A New Orleans detective twelve years on the
Speaker 1: force college education, says Oswald was connected with a weird
Speaker 1: pilot here who kept a gun, arsenal of fake passports,
Speaker 1: and a library. On post hypnotic suggestion, the detective headed
Speaker 1: a team which two nights after Oswald's capture rated the
Speaker 1: uptown New Orleans apartment of David Ferry, at the time
Speaker 1: suspended pilot for Eastern Airlines. Ferry had been under suspension
Speaker 1: six but had no visible income and was awaiting trial
Speaker 1: on homosexual charges. The police hit his apartment after they
Speaker 1: learned from newspaper accounts Oswald had been a member CAP
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Civil Air Patrol. Ferry, until his airline suspension,
Speaker 1: was commander of Oswald's small CAP group. Oswald was a
Speaker 1: member in his teens, but the detective says Ferry indicated
Speaker 1: he knew Oswald during his nineteen sixty three residents here.
Speaker 1: The police had been watching Ferry for other reasons, but
Speaker 1: remembered the CAAP connection. They raided the pad and found
Speaker 1: Ferry absent, but two seventeen year old high school boys there.
Speaker 1: The boys had in their possession visa applications for South America,
Speaker 1: and when questioned, handed police a card bearing the name
Speaker 1: of Jack Wasserman, Washington, DC, attorney for racketeer Carlos Marcello.
Speaker 1: Police did so, and Wasserman arranged for their parole. The
Speaker 1: boys told their parents they were members of a marshal
Speaker 1: anti Castro group organized by Fairy. They were sworn to
Speaker 1: secrecy and could say no more. Well, is there a
Speaker 1: page missing? I think there is a page missing. Oh,
Speaker 1: I think there's a page missing here, but I'll read
Speaker 1: this last page anyway. It says page three. Second, where
Speaker 1: did Fairy get his and incident cuts off? But he'd
Speaker 1: been flying to Texas paying and then it's cut off. Third,
Speaker 1: why doesn't apparently minor something or why is something with
Speaker 1: Wasserman and implication to organize crime Fairy's fake passports quasi
Speaker 1: guerrilla organization, and I think all the right hand columns
Speaker 1: cut off? Sorry by this and high school boys, but
Speaker 1: the Wasserman Marcello something is more sinister. Fourth, what influence
Speaker 1: if any did something as a juvenile or as an adult.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. It's all cut off,
Speaker 1: but yeah, so you should be able to see that.
Speaker 1: This is so Coffee never went on the trip, okay,
Speaker 1: it was late in Martin's and so they get dropped
Speaker 1: off a Fairiy's place by Arcaca because David Ferry was
Speaker 1: in Hammond, right, And so our katcha ends up the
Speaker 1: going home and the two boys are there. The police
Speaker 1: come in after midnight on Monday, and they bust in
Speaker 1: the place. They arrest them and on their person they
Speaker 1: had visa applications to South America, not suspicious at all.
Speaker 1: And they had cards to Jack Wasserman, one of Carlos
Speaker 1: Marcello's attorney. Not suspicious at all. Right, it's wild. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's clear that those guys were connected involved in
Speaker 1: all this stuff, and I explained it very well in
Speaker 1: my book of Warning from History. And we're not going
Speaker 1: to get into David Ferriy's full trip this time, but
Speaker 1: next time, let me see, the next time, we're going
Speaker 1: to pick up with some of the Landry stuff. Landry
Speaker 1: and the al Cherami stuff, which is all connected to
Speaker 1: Daavid Ferry's Eastern Airlines stuff, which is coming up. We
Speaker 1: got to have a ton of pages on Eastern Airlines
Speaker 1: investigation into Ferry because Fairiy is a creepy pervert and
Speaker 1: they needed to fire him and so they did a
Speaker 1: huge investigation into the guy. So that's what's coming up.
Speaker 1: And let's it for me today, guys. I'll be back
Speaker 1: on Monday. Thank you.