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Speaker 1: Yvonne Lawton is a witch. She won't mind me saying
that because she is stick around because you're going to
find out all about witchcraft. Now she's involved with the
Festival of Sown and she's going to tell us all
about it. Before we went anywhere, though, I decided to
ask her all about Yowl, where she operates out of
a beautiful part of Ireland in County Cork on the
southeast coast.
Speaker 5: It's a real magical place. We have a most amazing
festival every year called a Spirit of Son. But more
than that, we have about twenty two witches and we
meet minimum eight times a year to celebrate all the
seasons and we work with nature and of one of
the witchcraft. There wasn't very much witchcraft trials in Ireland
because we Irish people love the supernatural and we understand
that it goes hand in hand, you know, walks beside
us on a different level, on a different vibration. So
we had poor Florence Newton who was trial as a
witch in you all, and I think we only had
something like four witchcraft trials in Ireland, but you can
go to Scotland and there was two and a half
thousand witchcraft trials there.
Speaker 1: I think also after Alice Kittler in Kenny At burnings
of witches happened, not in Ireland.
Speaker 5: We love our witches and we love our fairy people,
and we've got a deep respect for the other world
and we understand that, we know that the walkside beside us.
And so if you kind of take a look at
the whole witchcraft thing, you'll see that a lot of
the witchcraft trials were in Ireland even and you all
used to be a garrison town where you had the Puritans,
and that is probably one of the reasons why we
would have had the witchcraft trials. But generally in Ireland
there was there was no witchcraft trials at all, although
as I said, there was four. So you take the
whole country of Ireland and there was only four witchcraft trials,
absolutely amazing when everything else was going on in Scotland
and England in Europe. But we have a deep respect
for the world of the invisible.
Speaker 1: I think Alice Kittler herself escaped. I think didn't she
believe well, she.
Speaker 5: Escaped, Yeah, she escaped to England because she had money,
and then it was her poor maid that they burnt instead. Petronella,
it's a maid's name.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd forgotten it. But I want to roll back
to yall if your pardon the poond because it is
on the southeast right it is. You say it's a
magical place, there's a magical sounding name. It's spelt yo
ug h a or some people say h l describe it.
Speaker 5: For us, it's a medieval town. It has in the
center of the town is the clock tower, and before
they would have held prisoners in the clock tower. In fact,
I believe some people areung off but at some stage.
But before that, there was a place called Trinity Gates,
and they believe that Florence Newton, who was child of
the Witch, might have been held there. Our town walls,
I believe over a thousand years old, and you can
still walk the town walls today. It's absolutely steeped in history.
So Walter Relly was here. They believe Spencer who wrote
The Fairy Queen was here as well. So we had
a lot of historical people that lived in the town itself.
And obviously Moby Dick was made that famous film was
made in Ullis. We have hundreds and hundred years of
history within the town. And the amazing thing is like
when you walk through the town, you can actually see
the town walls, you can stand in the town walls,
you can go and visit the clock tower. It was
also one of the richest ports in Ireland as well,
and they used to stop here and wash people's feet
who would go on pilgrimages to after Jerusalem. And we
had four different types of monks here as well, So
it's like the history here is absolutely endless. I believe
it's about maybe six thousand people that live here at
the moment. Obviously we have the beaches, we have the
river Blackwater. You can go on a boat Tony Gallerher's
boat and Blackwater Cruises, and you can go and see
the mountains. You can see a very old monastery as well,
which is on the side of the river. So it's
absolutely steeped in history. It's a phenomenal place to visit
and during the year then we have all different festivals
to celebrate obviously different seasons as well.
Speaker 1: It's on the estuary, isn't it of the river?
Speaker 5: It is fron of the most of the Blackwater where
the Blackwater meets the sea.
Speaker 1: Beautiful and to see. Of course, that's the whole maritime
history and a military history to the area.
Speaker 5: There is. It's absolutely huge. What is what we have
within the town is amazing, especially if you're a history
buff and if you do like witchcraft and magic, we
can we also cater to that. So there's something for everybody.
And you say there's military as well, so it's incredible.
We've got the most amazing boardwalk that you can walk on.
It's quite busy because it's at built on the beach
at the side of it's very user friendly, so if
you want to push a bogie. For those who need
grown wheelchairs, you know they can experience the beach as well.
Speaker 1: You've painted a beautiful picture of the area and not
only is it physically beautiful, but you know you've created
that spell bound kind of imagery of it as well,
with the medieval references and the and the gates and
places that is immersed in history. Talk to me about
the spirit of Sound.
Speaker 5: The Spirit of Saun rather than Halloween, celebrates what Saun
is as we know, Saund was found in Ireland up
in the Hill of Tara. Because we do have a
magical community here and we've got something like, as we said,
twenty two witches. And not only do we have witches
from Ireland. We have them from Wales, Scotland, Brazil, America,
so we have quite a range of witches of cultures.
We all have that interest in witchcraft, which witchcraft is
about working with the elements. It's about working with the seasons.
It's about working with the plants and the flowers and
recognizing that everything has a spirit. We have put together
a festival called the Spirit of Sound and it's two
days and it's basically based around the story, well it's
not a story, it's it's an actual tale of a
lady who is called I'm Vanishka. So I'm Vanishkat translated
from Irish to English is the woman of the Water.
And this is a true story that comes down through
from my grandmother. She tells the story. She used to
tell the story about how my great grandfather and his
brother they're out fishing one of the mornings and the
fog came in and they got lost and they didn't
know the way back to shore, and this lady rose
up from the water and she pointed them back in
the direction of the all town itself. That story got
passed down through all our family. So we've kind of
adapted that story and we've made it into one. You
know that spirit people believe. Some people believe the spirits
are bad, but obviously this is a very good spirit.
We've kind of put our festival around around her. We
you know, we've celebrated the spirit world in other worlds.
We have obviously lots of different things going on, and
we celebrate Flarence Newton, who's the Witch of yours, and
we have a lot of things going on for the kids.
The thing that's our favorite is on sourn Night itself,
we have a ritual. We have over twenty two witches
come together and they do the most beautiful ritual on
the beach, and everybody from the town comes and they watch,
and we call in our ancestors, we remember all of
those who've gone before us, all of those yet to come,
and we dance and we sing, and everybody gets to
witness what witches really do, not what they think they do,
or not what they've seen in Hollywood, but what witchcraft
is all about. And it's so busy and people absolutely
love it and they're moved to tears. And last year
or last year, yeah, a few weeks ago, we were
lucky enough to have the Grim Reaper coming onto the beach,
and we had this beautiful, big white horse called Luna,
and the grim Reaper came and he walked around the
fire three times, and we went up through the town
with him. And it's just about the celebrating life and
also celebrating zebt as well. So lucky to be able
to do that now, whereas before, you know, those who
had those poor witches who were burned to the stake
or they were home, they didn't get to be able
to celebrate what, you know, their passion or you know,
how they felt about the world because people painted them
in a real death way because they were free spirits
and they weren't being ruled by the church.
Speaker 1: Does it happen at nighttime?
Speaker 5: It happens at nighttime. It happens on the night of
Seo in itself at seven o'clock, and it's truly incredible.
Speaker 1: I'd say it is. Again, it might send a stupid question,
but what do witches wear? Have you got any particular garb?
Speaker 5: No? No, it's like you can meet some you can, yeah,
or it's like anybody else. Some people might like to
dress to dress up and address. So you know, people
have a have they think dresses witches dress with these
with the hats the witch. But I mean and everybody
puts them on. But that kind of became popular from
the Wizard of Oz in the nineteen forty I.
Speaker 1: Little Dog Kill.
Speaker 5: And that's it, and that's why. I mean, you see
which is painted green. So a lot of that comes
from from that movie, The Wizard of Us. Now before
in the I think the sixteen seventeen hundreds in Germany,
when women were pouring beer, they would have used the
hats like that. So when you went to an establishment,
a woman would have been wearing a hat like that
and you knew that she was serving beer. So she
was a beer maker. She made she she made manufactured beer,
and you going new that for your points. That's it,
so kind of that's that's that's where all of that
comes from. But you know, like when we go onto
the beach, we do dress up, we wear cloaks, and
you know it wasn't necessarily that's just witches work cloaks.
I mean, back then, everybody body war cloak to keep
you warm. And I suppose it's kind of our nod
to the ancient or to those who came before us,
you know, so we just we just put on the cloaks.
Speaker 1: And beautiful and areations or singing.
Speaker 5: Oh yes, there's lots of incantations. There's lots of singing
as well. And in fact, on Saturday here we're celebrating
the winter. Sold stuff on the beach at half eight
in the morning, so we will be doing some incantations,
some singing and we're we're doing it with the All
Active Retirement Group because they contacted us. We've been doing
it with them for years now. But anybody can come along,
you know, and celebrate the winter. So so that's all
about the return of the life, the return of.
Speaker 1: The sun of the beach.
Speaker 5: It's the Mail beach and it's in the center. Yeah,
and it's the center in the center of your So again,
how lucky are we to have a beach bang on
in the center of the town that we use, you know,
to celebrate.
Speaker 1: Yes, And like a semicircle or a circle.
Speaker 5: You do, or it's a circle that we do. We
dance the circle as well, and we dance, we sing,
you know, we just celebrate life. We celebrate being alive.
And again it's the time to remember those who are
no longer with us. At this time of the year,
because obviously some of us this time of the year
is not necessarily happy or a joyot occasion. But you know,
we we remember them fondly who used to sit around
the table with you before, and we like candles just
to remember them. But not only that, then we like
to do a ceremony around well, of all the children
that were born this year, of the little you know,
the animals that were born, the new butterflies that came
into the world, you know, everything, you know, So yeah,
rap on the cheat the circle of life.
Speaker 1: So in itself, a lot of people don't realize the
origins of Halloween are in Ireland, isn't that correct?
Speaker 5: That's right? Yeah, so in itself comes from Ireland, from
the hill Tero and the druids used to light the fires,
and all the fires will be quenched in Ireland, and
then the druids will come and they would do their
ceremony and then they would light the fire, and from
then then all the other fires were lit in Ireland.
Speaker 1: Incredible, isn't it absolutely? And also I'm just making a
connection here and it's probably an erroneous one, but you
were saying that witchcraft is all about the harmony of
nature and the elements, et cetera. How then would it
differ from druidry.
Speaker 5: They're all kinds of similar. But actually I was talking
with my friends last night and we were saying, even
if you take a look at some of the Native
Americans rituals, what they do, they're fairly similar to what
we do here. At the end of the day, you know,
it's all about tuning into nature. You know, how do
you tune into nature? You know, like, how do you
know what a plant can give you as regards healing?
To take any of the tribes all over the world,
that connection is there. It's all about celebrating nature. Now,
you may do it a little bit differently because culturally
we you know, we live in different parts of the
world and we all have our own cultures. But the
whole essence of what we do is really like if
you were to cut it all down and bring it
down to its very basics, we're all actually doing the
same thing, but maybe just in a slightly different way.
Speaker 1: I'm going to throw a few names that you hear.
Speaker 5: Malgogan, So poor Mal was she was waiting for her
husband to come home. He went out to sea one
day and she continued to wait, and she waited for
him till the day she died, and she'd have a
light on in our house, hoping that every night he
will return home from the sea. And it's really funny
you mentioned her, because when we did the Spirit of Solm,
we did think called Tales by Candlelight, and we took
all the aracters from you all and we told their stories.
So we let them step out of the shadows and
tell their story, and Marlgargen was one of them. And
it was something very moving about how somebody has that
much love for someone that they would spend the rest
of their life looking for him. And I'm sure when
she crossed over she met with them.
Speaker 1: Elaborated a little bit more about Florence Newton, because is
the name of your explain a covin, First of all,
is a covin like a group of witches.
Speaker 5: Well, a covin is a group of witches. But we're
not a covent. We're gathering because we have because with
people from all cultures, and plus we have shaman who
work with us. But a covent really is I suppose
it's more a religious aspect because you have what's called Wickans,
so wickan. So the kind of wicked I suppose is
more the religious side, if you like, and they have
to adhere to certain rules, and whereas we, I suppose
maybe we're a bit wilder, but we don't. We just
go and work with the seasons. And you can bring
into the gathering whatever you know, whatever spells, incantations, whatever
it is that you want to do. Whereas they would
be more they would be more strict. And there's different
lines of covens.
Speaker 1: Florence Newton, Are you gathered in her name? Or what's
the connection there is?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Well, because Florence Newton was a witch, and she
was from all we kind of have that I don't know,
dotted lying to her if you like. So nobody really
knows what happened to Florence new Now he knows that
she died during when she was I suppose when she
was being held captive, So we don't really know. Did
she die from natural causes? Did she did the hanger?
I believe if they would have hung her, they would
have said that. So my own belief is that she
would have died during the witchcraft trials, probably because you know,
they obviously they tortured her. They kept this poor old
woman in a jail cell that she was chained and
she was beaten. So and she was in her sixties,
so at that time that would have been considered quite old.
Speaker 1: So thanks for saying that, I have recently turned sixty
one and I've been getting worried.
Speaker 5: I said in that time, I didn't say, now, oh well.
Speaker 1: And this was all around medieval times, wasn't it her?
Speaker 5: Yeah, this was sixteen sixty one. She went to a
house and she asked for some Yes, so she asked
for some bread. The maid turned her away. So then
I think the following day she met her down by
the well. It was believed then that she put a
curse on the maid. And then, as you know, in
which trials all you need to do is point a finger.
So then others came forward and said that she was
after killing three children, and the whole thing snowballed, and
then people were getting involved in it because to be
part of witchcraft trial back then it was a great
way of becoming famous. So you know, the whole thing
kind of snowballed for poor Florence. Yeah, so obviously we
want to remember how we want to remember who she
is and how easy it is, you know, for somebody
to can accuse somebody of doing something, you know, gossip,
and how dangerous it is.
Speaker 1: You know, when it comes to the witches, what proportion
of them are men? Are there warlocks knocking about?
Speaker 5: There would be a very small portion of them, maybe
twenty percent. But you know what we're Yeah, but we're
so lucky to have them and to have them as
part of the group because they bring obviously a different
type of energy to the group as well. And you know,
it's great to be able to sit down and discuss
just different things that are happening to people, or somebody
might have experienced or you know, I felt that there
was somebody in the room with me the other night,
and you know, you can kind of get different perspectives
on what's happening. But yeah, but we are lucky.
Speaker 1: It seems to be more of a European thing to
have warlocks or men witches than in the States.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, whereas I mean in Ireland we will
probably say that they were druids more than more than witches.
Speaker 1: You know, where does it all start for you? You know,
when did you get interested in it?
Speaker 5: I was always interested in us ever since a little
girl like that. You found its fascinating. Yeah, you just
know it. And you know what, anytime you were reading
them a fairy to, I got all that pot which
now has been blimked for X, Y and Z. And
then you set to explore it a little. Yeah, and
then you set to explore things a little obviously got
in the eighties, there wasn't that much to explore, but
you just kind of felt that there was something more
to the world that was around you. There was something
a bit more magical, or there was something you couldn't
quite put your finger on it, but you knew there
was something else there. So and then you set to meditation.
You start meeting groups, and then you know, you begin
to realize, you know, hey, something's blossoming here. And it
was just the witchcraft side of things that really interested me.
The fact that you know, you work completely with the seasons,
you're working with the plants and the animals, and I
love being outside anyway, so I just really called to me.
Then before you know it, you start meeting people within
the town of Yall and you're going, you know, just
big interest and they go, oh my god, I have
two and things begin to develop and you start beginning
to meet up and then from there you have something amazing,
which is what we have now, the spirit of sound
and ins to grow and like we're we're just so
lucky that we live in the beautiful town of y'all.
And people, you know, they come and they participate in
so and itself, and they come and they look and
see what's happening on the beach, and you know, you
don't get any negativity. What you get is, well, that
is just so amazing and it's a completely different way
of looking at the world. And you know that they
than they would have been shown. And there's a lot
of interest in it, a lot of interest.
Speaker 1: The Internet must have been a god sent for you.
Speaker 5: It was, indeed, And even when we were doing our
ritual on the beach, we had a live feed going
on a group called Love You All and it got
over fight that was over five thousand people viewing it.
Speaker 1: That's amazing, It is amazing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and then they'll contact you afterwards. And there
was actually some which is travel had traveled from the
UK for it. We had some witches that had traveled
from America, believe it or not, for it, and we
spoke to a beautiful couple who had come from Germany
and what they had. They were actually going to Gorway,
but then they saw, oh my goodness, just on our
Facebook page while they're doing an actual ritual and it's
not very commercialized. Instead of going to go away, they
came down to you all and they said, we'll be
back next year and we'll be bringing a lot more
people with us.
Speaker 1: That's a small world, Yvonne. And you know when you
were growing up and you were feeling all this, were
you superstitious at all over your left children.
Speaker 5: No, I wasn't, but my mother was, and my grandmother was, Yeah,
very much superstitious. And you know what, we were lucky because,
as I said about the Vanish Gun and the story
of the Woman of the Water, we grew up with
ghost stories around us. And we grew up always even
though we you know, we were brought up with Catholic
we were always taught to you know, that there was
a lot more going on than you could see. And really,
at the end of the day, it's always about feeling
because nobody you know, when you go into a room,
or you might go into an old church or something,
you just get that feeling. Nobody can say to you,
you know. I mean people might say to you you
would you ever cop on or whatever, but nobody can
take away that feeling from you. We're more than our
bone and more.
Speaker 1: Than five census, I think for sure.
Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: I always say as well, because there's a lot going
on in the world control wise, I think it will
an attempt perhaps to control people. But I always say,
you cannot really legislate for instinct, and I think god failing.
There's so much to that. I mean, I don't know
about about you, Yvonne, but I'm only speaking personally now
because you have a lovely way about you and i'd
love to, you know, just open up to you. I feel,
and I don't think I'm the only one. That we
are on the verge of something. I'm not sure what
it is worldwide. It's a feeling I had. I suppose
with the whole COVID thing, you know, our whole world.
I mean, that was so went upside down. And I
don't evil I will, you know, I will be the
token fruitcake or whatever, but I didn't quite buy a
lot of that. But I don'tant to get controversial, but
oh good, Well we could talk then, you know, but
but we won't. I mean, to me, there was a
contrivance there, right, and there was no debate there was.
That was the thing. I mean, we're supposed to be
the free world and whatever, but there was no debate.
Is you will do this and you will do that,
and you will take this or you won't take that,
and if you don't, you're not a good person. All
this kind of carry on. But as that is, that's
me going off on one now and I need to
rein that in. But but you know what I'm saying,
I mean, it goes back to it. I've never said
like and I look, I've kids, and you know, I've
done my time, if you like, And I just have
this ominous something that's gonna go wrong or some that
some attempt that's going to be whether it succeeds or not,
now that's a different matter, you know it is. So
I'm not I'm not total nuts. Then no, you're not
total all.
Speaker 5: You know. It's a shame people don't listen to their
own intuition a bit absolutely or you know, be guided
by it, because your intuition, your gout feeling, it will
never it's there for a reason and it will never
put you wrong. It never, It never puts you wrong
because when something goes wrong, you always say, well, why
didn't I listen to my gut? You know, even if
everybody sent you well that person's really nice new and
then you're thinking, oh, well maybe there, but your gut
is telling you something else.
Speaker 1: I tell you we need to get back into the
witchery stuff because I do respect your time. So we've
spoken about what about charms and amulets? Is there anything
like you recommend?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean a lot of people. Well, for me,
I think it's just if you have that belief in
a in a chairm or an ambulus, that's enough for
it to work. Really, you know, for you, because you're
putting that energy into it, you have a belief in it,
you know what I mean? For us, with a lot
of we would wear what's called the pentagram or a pentacle,
and that represents are there fire and water, and it's
got a protection, it's a protective cham and a lot
of us would would wear that because obviously it represents
the seasons, it represents the elements. Or we would wear
the moon or a goddess amulut as well. So these
are all, you know, are all for protection, much like
you know, you see you see a lot of Catholics
wearing crosses.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you've put me right on the pentagram because
I always associated that would say tanic kind of ritual.
So I don't know, completely wrong.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's yeah, that's got nothing at all to do
with it. And yes, it's all to do with their
fire and water and spirit would be your fifth element
and that and people, you know, if they if somebody
sees you're wearing one of them, if they're not aware
of it, or they're going, oh my god, as you said,
that's satan satanism, and which there's no satan in witchcraft.
That's a Catholic thing. But anyway, that's a whole nother conversation.
But yeah, so it's it's basically it's the protection, and
it's also about it's about the seasons or their fire
and mortar and spirit.
Speaker 1: Okay, now this is probably more paranormal, so stop me
then say something like the weed aboard do we just
double insane?
Speaker 5: Yeah, of course they do. Yeah, what's it called? What
are we called texting from heaven?
Speaker 6: The board?
Speaker 5: Yeah, again, it's it's just a tool, and you have
to use it with respect. Again, You're going back to
Hollywood and they're showing you the wig board, and how
terrifying it is because hey, who's going to watch a
movie where everybody's sitting around the wig board and it's
all really nice and gentle and beautiful and you're getting
these lovely messages and and but the unfortunate thing is
people tend to use a wig board when they're drunk
or when they're feeling very depressed exactly. So you know
what light attracts like, so your vibration is low, you've
had your drinks, you're making fun of the wigi board.
You're not going to get beautiful spurts to come across
and talk to. What you're going to attract to something
very very different. So and you know, and teach treat
it with respect.
Speaker 1: With respect absolutely and cards.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that would be another favorite of ours. We
you know, we would. It's like, actually, it's kind of
when we get up in the morning, not all of us,
but some of us. You sit and you have your
cup of tea, you a cup of coffee, and you
just pull a card and say, so what energy is
coming towards me today now and let the card. Take
your tarot card, let it rest on the table and
have a look at it. And then by the end
and at the end of the day, then have a
look and say, well, you know, what did that that
terror card mean? But again, it's the tool where you're
you're using your intuition. You're looking at the card and
you're saying, well, what does that mean or what does
that mean for the person that you're reading for. So
it's again it's just a tool. It's all that intuition
that just helps you. So it gives you a focus.
Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite in incantation?
Speaker 5: As above, so below, as we say, it shall.
Speaker 1: Be, so, Oh God, you're good.
Speaker 5: I love it. As above, so below, as we say
it shall be.
Speaker 1: So it shall be, so it shall be.
Speaker 5: So you're saying you're bringing that.
Speaker 1: I'd say spells. Do you can't spells?
Speaker 5: Yeah, we would cast a spell. So basically what you're
doing is you're seeing, seeing what it is that you
want to manifest. So, for example, it can be as
simple as a day leaf. So you know the bay
leaf trees, so you take a bay leaf and bay
leaf when you go and look at what a bay
leaf does or what they represent. So they're all about
wishes and you write and you just hold it in
your hands and you say, what is it that I
would love that will benefit me, will be a benefit
to me, and you kind of put that energy into
your bay leaf and then you put it into the
fire and then the smoke goes up and out into
the universe and you let the universe worry about it
for you. So it doesn't have to be all these
really long things, or it doesn't have to take days
to do it, and be as simple and as powerful
as doing something like that.
Speaker 1: That's beautiful. So it's no eye of Newton toe a
frog and all that stuff.
Speaker 5: Now, well I new it is actually mustard tree, believe
it or not, back in the very some sort of
a plant that we don't actually have in Ireland. I
think that it's in America. So basically what they were
doing was when they were writing their spells, they were
they were looking at each of the plants and they
were going, Okay, what does that look like? What does
that look like? And then they put their spells together.
And there was a way I suppose of keeping them
secret as well, so you maybe just tell your friends
or tell the other people that you might be sitting
around the fire with what eat of them? Meant some
so much better than send mustard seed though, doesn't it?
Speaker 1: It does? And I've just seen toe of frog is
a butter cup and wool of butter cup is it's
moss or.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we would tend to use as moss
here well that yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, your favorite element would be you mentioned that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I suppose I get up every morning and I
go for a beautiful long walk. Before I start walking,
you know, you look at the sky and it's it's magical.
And maybe because I'm Gemini, that's an air sign as well. Again,
here is a lot to do with them haughts and
being creative in your head, in your mind, and it's freedom.
Yeah you can and and when the wind blows it's
just so cleansing. Yeah. So I'm attracted to air, but
all of them obviously have their own amazing attributes. Its
air would do it for me.
Speaker 1: Air is good for you. You will be please God
in the beautiful fresh air on the winter solstice, on
on the Mall beach and before before you go yule?
Is that celebrated or what does that mean to a witch?
Speaker 5: So you is the same as the winter solstice of
December December, but you is a German. I think it's
more German, whereas we would celebrate the winter. So it's
just a different name for the same thing. But it's
just it will be more to do with with I
think it's more German ules German, whereas we say winter.
Speaker 1: Soltice here, So it's the same thing, the same thing.
And finally, if your pardon the expression, do you have
a familiar?
Speaker 5: I have my familiar. She's actually downstairs as we speak,
in front of the fire. She's the most beautiful little doggie.
And her name is Luna.
Speaker 1: How beautiful after the moon and.
Speaker 5: She comes everywhere at me, yes exactly, And we just
found her and she jumped into the car. Well, yeah,
we were. She jumped into the car with us one
day and she hasn't left us since.
Speaker 1: That's beautiful.
Speaker 5: It's beautiful.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you, do you have an altar?
Speaker 5: I do, yes, and I have one down stairs now,
just all done up for the winter solice. So we
have our holly, and we have our ivy. We have
acorns as well on it. I believe, so a lot
of stuff will I'd be picking up as I'm walking
in the woods as well. And we have the Triple
Goddess and we and Santa Claus, so the Holly King
and the Hall, and so it will be the Holly
King is what we would call Santa.
Speaker 1: And would you have a cauldron as well?
Speaker 5: I would have a cauldron yet, yes, I probably have
about seven or eight of them around the house. And Leah,
and we burn our beautiful either candles we put into
it or else we burn instances.
Speaker 1: Yvonne Lawton, you have been an absolute lady and as
I said earlier and moments patronizing. You have a lovely
way about you and that's why thank you very much.
We could talk about this world and where it's going,
but hopefully on Vanishka will will point in the right
direction for us and we'll all be welcome out of it. Good.
So listen, where can we find you?
Speaker 5: Well, you can look us up on Spirit of Seven.
We have an Instagram page and we also have a
Facebook page, so you can follow us on that and
see what we're up to. Yeah. So, and I believe
one of the one of the lads, one of our
Male Witches is putting YouTube channel together as well. You know,
it's important that we are not just saying us in general,
but people that do this type of work get out
there because it's really important to the world and to
the universe. Like you were saying earlier on where you know,
there are so many bad things happening, but there are
so many beautiful people out there as well, you know
that that work with nature and have beautiful qualities about them, and.
Speaker 1: You are one of the so you no, I mean,
it's been a pleasure and very enlightening as well. I
have to say, you know, Pentagram, I was walking around.
You've put my mind at rest about that symbol because
anytime I went on a ghost hunter or whatever an investigation,
you need to see this thing and you go, oh,
the Satanists must have been in here. Probably the exact opposite.
Won't you look after yourself?
Speaker 5: Have a lovely yew too, bye? Take care?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a couple of things over the years. But
I've learned, well I don't. I suppose it's not learned.
I've just become accustomed to it. And I think it's
kind of it's it's it's maybe it's it's another sense
or something. But often when you go into places, you
will get a feeling for the place and you'll get
a feeling of whether or not it's comfortable. And whatever
cause is that, who knows what causes that. But we
have an intuition. We have an inbuilt intuition. I can't
describe what it is or where it comes from, or
the physics of it or the chemistry of it, but
it's there, and anybody will will tell you to stick
with your intuition. If you think something doesn't feel right,
then don't hang around.
Speaker 3: Superb advice from regular contributor to Scary Era, David McGlynn
aka the Squire, and don't hang around either.
Speaker 4: If you've got an Irish paranormal tale to tell.
Speaker 3: Simply email Paranormal Ireland at ProtonMail dot com and it'll
be read out for you before you get to tell
it on air yourself. That's Paranormal Ireland at ProtonMail dot com.
Speaker 1: Today is your lucky day if you've ever wanted to
know about all things paranormal in County Galway, because I
got talking to Philip Costello of Paranormal Awakenings Ireland PAI.
Before we talked paranormal. We talked Galway.
Speaker 6: So, Galway is a beautiful coastal area with a lot
of medieval history. It's known as the city of Tribes
and it has many family names. It has much much
history with the medieval past. It has the beautiful Cliffs
of Moher, one of the most beautiful views in Ireland.
Speaker 1: And was there a Spanish influence there at one point?
Speaker 6: Of course, Yeah, there's an area in Go we're called
the Spanish Art right down beside where the claud Is
and it's where the clatter Ring was first made, the
most famous with but the Spanish ships used to come
into the clatter to drop off goods at the time,
back in the eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 1: Like a commercial area it was.
Speaker 6: It would have been the hustling, hustle and bustle area,
would have had lots of markets, would have had the
colleges would have been where a lot of stuff would
have been brought in for storage, trade goods, crying that
they were part of the old extension of the old
city walls would have been at the time as well.
Speaker 1: And the clatter Ring itself there, that distinctive ring you
know when the faces down, what does that mean when
it faces up. Do you know that bit?
Speaker 6: Now it varies, so some say that when it faces
in it means your heart belongs yourself. When it faces
out it means that your heart belongs from another. Now
it depends on what hand it's on. If it's on
the left hand face and then it means that you're
engaged for a person. If it's on the left hand
facing out, it means that you're in a relationship. However,
it's on the right hand facing out, you're a single,
means that you're taking it apparently was also known as
an unofficial Irish engagement engagement ring one time.
Speaker 1: And do you have one?
Speaker 6: I do. Indeed facing it's facing in on my left hand.
Speaker 1: So what does that mean again?
Speaker 6: Engaged?
Speaker 1: Congratulations? Another good one? Bites the dust.
Speaker 6: That's it.
Speaker 1: We're here to talk paranormal goalway really, So where did
it start for you?
Speaker 6: It would have started for me at a young age
growing up in the country back then. The old is
the older people that have a lot of stories of
you know, the Banshee fairy, motor cars, headless horseman and
you know you'd hear your grandparents or your great grandparents
talking about all this. I kind of you'd either role
a fascination or you just kind of be scared of it,
or you'd father it off, you know. But for me,
I was always I kind of got into this and
hearing all these stories and I was fascinated with it.
And of course then i'd have a fascination with the
shows and seeing spooky things on TV and whatever, so
got me into it that way, you know. And then
an incident where when I was six years old, just
a week before my mother passed, and I had a
dream of her driving away. Now, at the time, I
had no clue what it meant, but you know, looking
back at it, I think it was sort of like
a symbol of her saying goodbye in a way, you
know what I mean. She was only thirty six when
she passed, you know, can but looking back at her,
it was sort of like, Okay, well it must have
been a sign to say, you know, she's going. But
I've been so young you wouldn't realize that, you know.
But it stuck with Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: I know the Buron is more County Claire, but it
is regional to go away. It's on the on the
west coast. Maybe expand on that for us Philip.
Speaker 6: A lot of limestone out there. It's a very very
rugged area, like it's very stone bog rough rough area.
But it has a lot of history in a lovely
walk is, you know. It's got a lot of walking trails,
it's got a lot of history. It's got a lot
of currents and burial areas.
Speaker 1: That the Dolman tombs, they're distinctive, the big slab of
rock waying tons upon maybe three vertical stones.
Speaker 6: Yes, now it's not exactly sure how they've done it
back in the day, but they were believed to be
burial places of of clan members that would have been
maybe high up in rank at the time, could have
been chieftains, you know, someone of a high status.
Speaker 1: Speaking of fight status, was there a judge that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, apparently he was the mayor of go Away and
he found that his son was very fond of the
ladies and he didn't like the way that he was
ruining their good name. So the story says that he
hung his son from the window. But it's debatable whether
it happened or not. Some people say it did, other
people to say it wouldn't, you know, support the weight
will never know, you know, So.
Speaker 1: There was no Biden look pardon for him anyway.
Speaker 6: No, absolutely not. You know, it would have been it's
kind of like the Lynch Memorial window area. You know,
it would have been around maybe nineteen fourteen ninety three area,
let's say. But his son was kind of condemned and
murdered and you know, the executioner hung them from the
window and left them there as a sort of you know,
a warning to others not to cross, you know.
Speaker 1: Ah, So hence the it's the Lynch's window, yes, where
where Lynch comes from? To Lynch someone, Yeah, it.
Speaker 6: Would have been a guy called James Lynch Fitzstephen who
was the mayor at the time, and he was the
magistrate in Galway, and because of his son having a
romantic rival, he ended up hanging them from that window.
So to Lynch somebody kind of came from that like
you like you said.
Speaker 1: And of course as well, the whole area was devastated
by the famine.
Speaker 6: There's a lot of memorials around from the famine times.
A lot of people immigrated from there, just not having
enough to eat, you know, Bud's gone black, you know, Yeah,
I mean there's there's places that is around the place.
I remember I was working in a place called Clamberg.
The hills that were around us were all old famine
farming areas where they had small little plata land between
themselves that they tried to grow potatoes in. And there's
still the old war all separating the little bits of farmland.
And there's apparently said to be still bodies dotted around
that haven't been found yet, that people have just dropped
and died with hunger. It's a very kind of a
spooky enough area. You know.
Speaker 1: You mentioned the hills, the old Pottine, which is kind
of like it was like the moonshine, wasn't it putching, putching, putching?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Did those boys try and make up stories as well
about fairies to distract people from their criminal activity?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah maybe. I mean we've fairies in Ireland have
always had a thing hand and hand, you know where
it's like, it's not it's not like the Americans that
would show us as little green dance and people or
tinker Bell or something like that. You know, yeah, yeah,
to be sure, to be sure, Mushia, Mussia. But a
lot of people still believe in the in the fair
and you know, you'd have fairy forts in different fields
and stuff where the older generation wouldn't go near, and
you'd have you know that they'd say that you couldn't
touch it tree around the fairy fort because it sent
a course on your Traditionally, fairy forths are a little
like they're believed to be magic areas where the fairies
had lived. Now, from what we've been told, we were
at a gentleman's area, Pat Noon's fairy field, and he
has many, many many stories around his field and about
the fairies and the stories of them. And one thing
I remember them saying was that they can show to
be perfectly human at five foot tall, or they can
they might disguise themselves, but there are supernatural beans. Let's
say someone say that they were here before you. You know,
people moved in and took over most of the land
and stuff. But typically you know, fairy far related curses
or retribution enhanced on people that might disturb the structures.
You know, someone might move a stone like you said,
or might cut down a tree and put on the
face curse as you know, you know, where people could
like fall dead, or they might lose their wealth, or
animals might die or something like that. But on the
opposite side of that, people also believe that the fairies
could bring you good luck. So you can leave offerings
like little trinklets or little bottles of whiskey or you know,
ribbon something just as an offering to stay in peace
with the fairies and that they can bring good luck,
you know, good harvest. They can, you know, if they're
left alone, they leave you alone, right, you know.
Speaker 1: And you know, I often associate the whole thing of
awake an Irish wake with goalway honoring the dead as
well as that's something that we've forgotten to do properly
or have there been any tree conditions that you're aware of?
Speaker 6: Well, I know, like when I was younger, with honor
and the dead, the wakes always used to happen in
the house. So when a person died, like my own experience,
would be going to someone's house and the person be
laid out in the bed or they be in the
middle of the sitting room and people had come and
pay their respects and they have now a bit of
a gathering. I won't say a holy but you know
a gathering where they drink around and stay with the
body and you know, have a laugh and stuff, you know,
or the Stations of the Cross one time, right, and
the House of the Blessings of the Cross and stuff.
All that has kind of like being forgotten now, you know.
Speaker 1: Tell us about some of the locations you've been to.
Speaker 6: One of their locations we would have been is a
place called Tyrone House. It would have been one of
my favorite spots is it's basically a seventeen seventy Georgian
style house in an area called kill Colgan and Galway,
and we've been there many times. It would have been
owned by the Saint George family at the time, who
would have owned much of the area around Kilkalgan, and
the French Saint George family would have been described as
let's say cruel, very kind of a dominate crowd at
the time. They would have had this massive, massive house.
You know, they'd had their parties in there, and they
would have much land around it and everything, but they
kind of kicked their farmers out when it's suited them.
There was a lot of stuff that went on the
house that wouldn't have been properly documented or known about
at the time. Like many of these old houses, there
would have been cruelty with the servants and a lot
of debauchery going on in cellars and in corner rooms
and stuff. And with Saint George himself. There was a
story that if there was a wedding around the area
that he had to get the bright to be before
the husband. Oh my, he.
Speaker 1: Had different times, you know, yeah, a very different time.
Speaker 6: But this house. It's said that the house was burnt
down because at the time they believed that the Ira
and was the Ira and the Black Contents were in
fighting at around the time. But they were believing that
the Black Contents would have taken the house and might
have turned it into an infirmary around the during the
nineteen twenties Border independence area, so they decided to burn
the house down so that they wouldn't get the house. However,
there's other conflicting stories saying that the locals around the
area had burnt the house down to stop again people
going in using it for the wrong reasons. But a
lot of the stuff was raided in the place and everything. First,
when we were there, we got a couple of interesting bits,
especially in the cellar area. I remember one time when
we were there, we were doing an investigation, were doing
an EVP session at the time. Now this was a
bit of a different and older, different team that we're with,
and suddenly I just kind of, I don't know what happened.
I went into some sort of trends or I don't
know how to describe it, but it was like something
there had taken taken me over. It was like that
channel something I was looking at a member of the
group who changed, if you get me, It went from
they morphed into someone else. So this person who doesn't
have a beard or a facial hair, suddenly had sort
of dark facial hair, a very old English style hairstyle,
you know, parted to one side, kind of a suit
on it. And I remember that I wanted to kill him,
that I just was going to go through them because
he had done something to a family member, to a woman.
I didn't want him in the house, you know what
I mean. Like we said, there was a lot of
stuff that went on in places like that that wouldn't
have been local knowledge that you wouldn't go boasting about,
you know, where servants would have been raised and things
like that, where these gentry and landlords or their friends,
that these parties would have had their way with the
poor little servants and be told to shut up or
you'll be thrown out of a job. So something like
that must have happened or could have happened, But there's
no details, let's say that I could find on it
of that nature going on.
Speaker 1: I suppose, after all, Philip, these were stately homes. Is
there any indication of their former glory or indeed original layout?
Speaker 6: With a lot of these places, you know, you have
to do a lot of research into it. And luckily
enough here and go with there's a library in the
town that keeps a lot of records on places. Let's
say this place, for example, and it would have shown
where the kitchen was, the piano room, there was like
a children's area, massive dining area, kitchens, bedrooms such, all
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Were there any more eerie incidents?
Speaker 6: We've had stone thrown at us in that place from
unseen forces. Like we were in there one night. We
had the infrared cameras and everything. We decided to sort
of tender a circle away from each other with the
lights just totally off, and we said we just try
this and see what that happened. And I called out
and I asked, if there is anyone here to make
yourself known, maybe throw something or say something. And as
soon as they said it, a stone was flung at us,
landing at our feet. There was a lad with us
at the time. He was doing a bit of video
for us. He got scared out of his wits and
he wanted out of there. He was like, no, no,
I'm done, I'm getting out of here. I've finished, I'm
out here. And he didn't come back with his sins.
It's stuff like that that would kind of make you
want to keep going back to see what would she
get more, or try and figure out who was thrown it.
We did pick up on a lady there who possibly
was an old servant. She still walks around the the
basement area. I believe that we have evp of her
saying I am pretty self.
Speaker 1: Praise is no praise, Philip, that's it. Anyway, you're moving
to more contemporary times, did you guys investigate Lord Hojo's grave.
Speaker 6: Lord hohe was American born fascist the time with World
War Second World War, but he was brought Ireland and
lived in Galway because.
Speaker 1: His parents I think were Irish, isn't that correct?
Speaker 6: His father was Irish brother was from York. I believe
or in England, so he had Irish roots and then
they moved from to England. He had family in Galway
around the ballin Rope Mayo area and Salt Hill, Galway area,
but he was moved to England where he would have
been recruited to an intelligence corpse that was actually stay well.
Before that, he was recruited by a fellow called Patrick
Keating who's from County Galway, and he was recruited as
a courier. Now he is also suspected by the IRA
of working and as an informert for the Black and
Tans when he was only a young lad. Now he
was eventually like had an attempted assassination when he was
on his way home from school one Even so, he
was moved England a while after to the Worcestershire Regiment.
It's also rumored that he had a hand in the
capture and murder of Father Griffin and Gold and that
would have been one of the questions that we had
asked at his grave at the time. But he basically
long story short, he ended up being a mouthed for
the Nazi propaganda during the war and was always bad
mouth in the English and you know on a radio
station where he'd been the one to start saying Germany.
Speaker 1: Calling yeah propaganda basically, and he had a kind of
snooty tone about him. It was like he was ridiculing
the British people that they ended up ridiculing him. In
the end. He was seen as a figure of fun.
Speaker 7: Really Germany carling, Germany, Carling from Germany, Carling are the
rights and the ambush station Bremen and station dx be
on the fed of one meter then.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean he was called laudh because of the
way he's spoken everything, and he was trying to like
he was trying to dihearten the English people, but instead
he ended up getting a lot of people listening to
a show yes who thought, who found us interesting to hear?
And because a lot of this stuff was editors and
couldn't be broadcast as they wanted tune into German radio stations,
let's say yes to hear road stuff.
Speaker 1: But he was fascist. I think he was with Oswald
Moseley's crowd in London, who was the kind of British
attempt at a dictator fascist dictator. He got into a
lot of squabbles there as well. But actually I'll tell
you a little bit about it. You might know, right.
So he was captured around the area of Denmark, somewhere
like that, northern Europe, and at one point he got
shot because an officer thought he was trying to make
a break for it or something. But he got shot.
He was injured before they took him back to London.
And as you quite rightly said, because you know your stuff,
you know the fact that he'd been born an American,
and I thought that that might save him from the
hangman's noose. As you know, it didn't tell you something
else when he had before he'd gone to Nazi Germany,
he'd been in a fight, I think, as I said,
as one of Oswald Moseley's men, probably fighting communists or
something like that. So he got a horrific scar that
went from his mouth to his ear. It was really
awful looking thing. And when they hung him, apparently the
scar reopened. Have you ever heard that yet?
Speaker 6: I did, apparently busted open once the news had tightened
around his neck.
Speaker 1: But you got to the grave anyway, When was that.
Speaker 6: He went to the grave, which is only you know,
down the road from us here. So it thought would
be interested to see if Lord had had a couple
of things to say to us, because it's not something
that people would would know about or would associate in
Ireland of someone being locally in here. So we said
we go down, we'd see if he happened to talk
about her he'd had to say. Unfortunately, the weather wasn't
our friend that night. But oddly enough, as we were
doing investigation down there, it sounded like the wind kept
getting stronger and stronger, as if like he was getting
more someone or something was getting more and more annoyed
with us and didn't want us talking down there. And
this would have been maybe September, and it was a cold, cold, night,
was windy, and we said we go down, we'd try
and do a couple of vps and we'd try and
contact him. We'd ask a few questions to see what
we get any response. So we left down a couple
of VP machines. We had our cameras and stuff with us. Now,
our our equipment kept going funny on us, and we
couldn't explain it how or why that a two meter
will go off. The VP machines were working at sign
but all the lights were going off for absolutely no reason. Whatsoever.
Speaker 1: What was his real name again?
Speaker 6: William Joyce?
Speaker 1: William Joyce. That's right. Did you ever hear his last broadcast?
Speaker 6: Apparently he sounded quite drunk and very he is, Yeah, yeah,
all over the place. Yeah, and the bottle of gin
was found side his papers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not at that point, and I think he's
looking at the nearest escape eggsit but he's you can
tell he's he's pretty much under the weather. So look,
I wanted to talk to you about some of the
other places as well that you've been. Palace Castle, does
that ring a bell?
Speaker 6: It's in Tina in counter Golway and it would have
been built by the Brooks around the fifteen hundreds and
owned by Fitz Morris Burke Klan and it will be
in restorations passed down to Newton family in Westmead. It's
seventeenth century gable house basically with five massive big walls
in it, and it's still an absolutely beautiful, beautiful building.
Would have been about five stories high with a third
story vaulted window area and very very thick walls and
chambers around the place. Beautiful fireplaces and bull sort of
framed art windows.
Speaker 1: Are the heritage people looking after that now, is it
just another one of these places that's gone to rack
and ruin.
Speaker 6: It's a National Monument of violence, so it would have
been the National heritage that look after and it is that.
It's absolutely in beautiful, beautiful condition. You know.
Speaker 1: I cantify to that because I saw on your Facebook
page that drive up to it. It was beautiful.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's absolutely gorgeous. And again we got a strange
EVP or two there as well, from something that we
couldn't see basically, you know, or didn't expect to hear.
But it was like just a growl of something cutting
across on us that didn't want us there. And it
was PJ that ended up getting the VP. He was
over at the towered areas and he was just doing
his thing and it was only after when he was
checking back that he heard this sort of husky, gravelly,
sort of like get out sort of sound, you know.
So something didn't want them there, which you wouldn't like.
During the day wouldn't be too bad. It looks lovely
and everything, but at night, I'm sure there's a whole
different field to it.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And was it during the day you got the
EVP or.
Speaker 6: It was during the day. Yeah. I mean with spirits,
it doesn't matter whether it's there or night or you know,
it's all the same to them. Apparently it's best to
go out at night because it's for video and for
photographs and stuff. You know, it's a lot easier to
spot things than it would be during the day. But
they're always around, you know.
Speaker 1: I think that was amazing though, that other story you said,
you know, by being kind of not quite possessed.
Speaker 6: I would have been a bit too open to it
where I'd have to I'd have myself left open to
a lot of these things, a lot more than I'd realize.
But I've been told by my own clair voyant and
medium friends that you need to close yourself upfill because
you're they can attach to you very much without your
realizing it. So you've got to be very careful and
very aware of your surroundings and don't be so open
to these things. As I said, I used to watch
a lot of these spirit programs and everything, and remember
Most Haunted one time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do remember Most Haunted.
Speaker 6: Indeed, I to be fascinated when that came out, and
with Derek Okor and everything as well. But I ended up,
you know, going to places and going if you need
to use me as a vessel, use me as a vessel,
talk through me, you know, thinking you know, everything will
be fine, whatever. And then someone said, don't do that
because it's absolutely very dangerous. You do not what you
know what you're inviting into yourself. So you've got to
stop that and do not give them the authority to
do such a thing, because it's easy to invite men,
it's harder to get them out.
Speaker 1: That's it from Philip Costello of Paranormal Awakenings Ireland. But
we shall not be letting the sun go down on
Galway Bay because Philip and myself had a lot more
recorded and I shall be sharing it with you in
the coming episodes. Special mention to Phillips fraud Line Fiance
and indeed TOPJ who coordinates all things in Pai. Mark
Manning Scary Era is a Mark Manning media production in
association with a paranormal UK radio network, broadcast bi weekly
from Ireland's ancient East Coast. Next Time, Anthony and Jessica
from Ghost Era join us, as well as Matthew Clark
from the Cork Supernatural Society. Till then, take care because
I care