Speaker 1: It's nice Eyes.
Speaker 2: Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 1: We're talking about the murder of the executive Ian Thompson,
Speaker 1: United Healthcare CEO. I am as confused and is concerned
Speaker 1: by this. There was an article that I read that
Speaker 1: suggested this indeed is this is indeed something that other
Speaker 1: companies have started to provide security for individuals, particularly individuals
Speaker 1: who are with companies, high value companies. And apparently, according
Speaker 1: to one article that I read, this individual did have
Speaker 1: a security detail provided to him by his company while
Speaker 1: he was in New York, but they were not with
Speaker 1: him at the time. Man, that's mention that this this
Speaker 1: is this is just it's getting Weirder's it's getting spokesman
Speaker 1: for United Health declined to provide details about security related
Speaker 1: to Thompson why the security team wasn't with him Wednesday morning,
Speaker 1: but a former senior security director at another major insurance
Speaker 1: company told CNN that it can often be difficult to
Speaker 1: get executives to accept security even when there are threats.
Speaker 1: United Healthcare CEO. That's according to CNN, Brian Thompson had
Speaker 1: an in house security detail assigned to him during his
Speaker 1: trip to New York City. According to a source familiar
Speaker 1: with the company security, but the detail wasn't with him
Speaker 1: when he was shot and killed sixty six one seven
Speaker 1: nine ten thirty. This is not a good development for
Speaker 1: this country in my opinion. Phil is in Boston. Phil,
Speaker 1: you are next on Nightside. Welcome, I do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm guess him if I put my main ideas
Speaker 3: at the bullets, so we'll put that lipleo on there
Speaker 3: as I think it's the whole curve ball and I
Speaker 3: was take consumes them and lose them. You went in
Speaker 3: the orse door. That was a good point or an edit.
Speaker 3: And how even if you.
Speaker 1: Had By the way, you're a little muffled tonight, Phil,
Speaker 1: Are you talking into your cell phone or you do?
Speaker 1: You have the cell phone like twenty six inches from you?
Speaker 1: You know, talk into the cell phones so we can
Speaker 1: hear you. You're sound muffled.
Speaker 2: Okay, how's that going?
Speaker 1: Not much better? Are you one? But Phil, Rob clean
Speaker 1: up Phil's audio for us. In the meantime, I'm going
Speaker 1: to go to Dave and San Antonio. Dave, welcome, next
Speaker 1: on Nightside.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm got an unusual story for this. Dan. I well,
Speaker 2: I had you not need healthcare and I went to
Speaker 2: the dentist and to get a set of false teeth,
Speaker 2: and uh, they pulled a lot of teeth out of
Speaker 2: my head so that they could. They said they had to,
Speaker 2: that these teeth were bad. And uh so I said, okay, did.
Speaker 1: You get let me ask you this day, did you
Speaker 1: without going into deep details here of did you get
Speaker 1: implants or or what type of what sort of replacement
Speaker 1: teeth did you get?
Speaker 2: I was looking for implants.
Speaker 1: Not covered generally, implants are not covered by.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know, and they were covered.
Speaker 2: They said they covered two thousand dollars worth of them,
Speaker 2: that my dental coverage was, but they didn't. I just
Speaker 2: chose to get the false teeth because the implants were
Speaker 2: more expensive. Thing and it was all settled, and then
Speaker 2: they did what they did. They made the false teeth
Speaker 2: and they didn't fit at all, you know, And I
Speaker 2: called you not a healthcare and I says, you do?
Speaker 2: You say these guys are reputable, and uh, nothing works?
Speaker 1: And okay, so what was what's the bottom line, David?
Speaker 2: Well, they fired the that they've whoever fired the whole
Speaker 2: damn office, all of them and put in new people
Speaker 2: under the same name and.
Speaker 1: Confusing me. So let me I don't want my audience
Speaker 1: to be confused. So was the who fired the dentist?
Speaker 1: Did in other words, did the office that employed the
Speaker 1: dentist fire the the dentist? Are you suggesting that United
Speaker 1: Healthcare somehow that that was or I really don't help.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Dan, And it was more than a dentist.
Speaker 2: It was the entire office. I mean they were like.
Speaker 1: Four So fair enough. Okay, So you don't know tell
Speaker 1: at the point of this he so kind uh tell
Speaker 1: me to the point of your story. It's interesting that
Speaker 1: you had to get you know, false teeth. Okay, my audience,
Speaker 1: I'm sure is interested in that. But that can happen
Speaker 1: to anybody. What does it have to do with the
Speaker 1: story we're covering.
Speaker 2: Well, it was not in healthcare. And all I'm saying
Speaker 2: is if people get that kind of treatment, like you know,
Speaker 2: when you get to healthcare they say we support this,
Speaker 2: well you can go to this one, this one, and
Speaker 2: this one, this these are who I pay for. And
Speaker 2: if that has something to do with what happened to me,
Speaker 2: I think that probably. I don't think I'm the only
Speaker 2: story like this where you know, well.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that there are more people Dave, every day
Speaker 1: who are disappointed in the amount or the quality of
Speaker 1: the health insurance that they get. I mean, you do,
Speaker 1: you pay your health insurance and you have issues or problems.
Speaker 1: But how many people are gonna somehow stalk the ceo?
Speaker 1: I don't even know for the most part, I know
Speaker 1: who Brian Thompson is now, but did you know his
Speaker 1: name beforehand? I don't think you would have no right. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I know that there's ahead person. But how many people
Speaker 1: that are going to go out and plan and plot
Speaker 1: uh an assassination over that? I mean, most people say, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know, I'll change my company, I'll get a I'll
Speaker 1: get a different a different company. You know. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: you have you blamed. I blame United Healthcare for that experience, Dave.
Speaker 2: Well, they certainly supported these people and told me that
Speaker 2: they were reputable people to go to, and they.
Speaker 1: Would that would that prompt you to commit violence against
Speaker 1: the CEO of the company?
Speaker 2: Of course? Not? Of course not. But I'm not crazy.
Speaker 1: I know that I know that. Okay, what do you
Speaker 1: think they would to speculate as to what you think
Speaker 1: is going on? I mean, your story is interesting, but
Speaker 1: it doesn't help me move you know our thoughts about
Speaker 1: how this could happen.
Speaker 2: Well, all I could say it was about twenty or
Speaker 2: thirty healthcare is is they just got healthcare employees that
Speaker 2: they just boom out of it.
Speaker 1: Okay, very insightful. I think you've given us some information
Speaker 1: that is invaluable. And how are the false teeth going?
Speaker 1: And are they working?
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't have any.
Speaker 1: You don't have any. Okay, Well, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: To hear that out because they did. I didn't get any.
Speaker 2: I didn't get any, and they get some.
Speaker 1: Dave, I know that there were bill out there tonight.
Speaker 1: Maybe we should start some sort of a GoFundMe page
Speaker 1: for you. What do you think?
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm dan. I just call because the way
Speaker 2: they fired the entire building. I mean the way like
Speaker 2: twenty or thirty people.
Speaker 1: Get fired all the time day. I don't know that
Speaker 1: that's but anyway, thanks for the call. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: We'll take a break. Six one, seven, two, five, four
Speaker 1: ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
Speaker 1: It's amazing how one of the things you learn about
Speaker 1: as a talk show host is human nature. I thought
Speaker 1: I understood human nature having been a television reporter. But
Speaker 1: it's amazing how people somehow personalize their experience and somehow
Speaker 1: are able to project that onto another set of circumstances.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's interesting what Dave went through, and I
Speaker 1: suspect all of us at some point have had a
Speaker 1: disappointing experience. But what could drive someone. I mean, first
Speaker 1: of all, there's no indication that the shooter was suffered
Speaker 1: a bad experience. Maybe we'll find out that his mother
Speaker 1: didn't get I mean, I don't know. I don't have it.
Speaker 1: This I'm looking at and saying to myself, there's something
Speaker 1: amiss here. This was a planned hit. This is not
Speaker 1: some guy who's in a bar at eleven o'clock or
Speaker 1: midnight on a Friday night who gets in a fight
Speaker 1: with someone. They take it outside and the guy pulls
Speaker 1: a gun and he happens to shoot you. Hear stories
Speaker 1: about this. There'll be some I guarantee you there'll be
Speaker 1: some major league athlete in the next six months who
Speaker 1: will be shot at a bar. Look at there was
Speaker 1: the San Francisco San Francisco forty nine or football player
Speaker 1: I think his last name is Presley, I believe, for
Speaker 1: a first round draft choice before the season started. He
Speaker 1: was shot in a robbery at daylight robbery in San Francisco,
Speaker 1: obviously in the wrong place at the wrong time. You
Speaker 1: have those stories nearly died, nearly died, they saved his life,
Speaker 1: and he's back playing for the forty and I guess
Speaker 1: he had his first touchdown pass a couple of a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. But that is that's different than
Speaker 1: what we're talking about here. This is this is a hit.
Speaker 1: This is a planned hit. Either it was planned by
Speaker 1: this guy or someone else planned it for him, and
Speaker 1: he was paid to do the hit. Where is this guy?
Speaker 1: They have a full face visual of this guy. Someone
Speaker 1: is going to look at that and say, oh my god,
Speaker 1: do you know who that is? I went to college
Speaker 1: with him or I went to high school with him.
Speaker 1: That's how that case is going to be broken. And
Speaker 1: then the questions we what's the motive? My question is
Speaker 1: if if this guy was some sort of a guy
Speaker 1: who was paid as a hit man, didn't look like
Speaker 1: a hit man. I mean, his didn't look like a
Speaker 1: hardened hit man as you would see in movies, looked
Speaker 1: like could have been a college student. This, this, to
Speaker 1: me fast is a fascinating story. I'd love to hear
Speaker 1: your theory, your thoughts six seven thirty or six one
Speaker 1: seven nine thirty, come right back on night Side. Now
Speaker 1: back to Dan Ray live from the Window World night
Speaker 1: Sight Studios on WBZ News Radio. I'm looking for someone
Speaker 1: who looks at this, and maybe there's some police out
Speaker 1: there who tonight could look at this and say, hey,
Speaker 1: here's what I think. My question is, if this kid
Speaker 1: was hired as a hit man, he may not be
Speaker 1: alive right now when you think about it, because if
Speaker 1: somebody hired him as a hit man, uh, they might
Speaker 1: want to get rid of him. I don't know. That
Speaker 1: was mentioned to me by a police friend of mine today.
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear what what others might think. We're
Speaker 1: going to go back to Phil, Phil as I understand
Speaker 1: that you now have changed to a different phone.
Speaker 4: Let's hear how this one sounds fine?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, Phil, it's like we fill that out
Speaker 1: of the cheap phone away? Will you?
Speaker 4: I ain't not tell me about it? Yeah, damn, I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: I'm thinking it. These are three bullets of the cay
Speaker 4: things they found. I think they're a curve ball to
Speaker 4: send someone down the path and the insurance thing, and
Speaker 4: apparently he bought apparently I think I heard somebody he
Speaker 4: bought he bought the gun recently. And it's an it's
Speaker 4: a World War two kind of an antique gun that's
Speaker 4: kind of hard to buy.
Speaker 1: And how where did you see that? Because I've I've
Speaker 1: looked at as much as I could. Today, Phil, I
Speaker 1: haven't seen that anywhere. I'm not suggesting that you're inaccurate,
Speaker 1: but I haven't seen that anywhere.
Speaker 4: They described it as a World War two I'm.
Speaker 1: Just curious what media source if you remember that.
Speaker 4: I believe I heard on the radio.
Speaker 1: Right, But there's a lot of radio stations.
Speaker 4: Did you competitors, is what I'm I.
Speaker 1: Don't want to No, that's good, So one of our competitors. Okay,
Speaker 1: Well again, I've looked at everything I could, and now
Speaker 1: they haven't seen that. If maybe tomorrow we'll see it.
Speaker 1: I don't know that there are that many World War
Speaker 1: two guns around. There's probably people in the audience who
Speaker 1: would have a better sense.
Speaker 4: A spy it's a spy gun. They call it the
Speaker 4: best p y gun. What I heard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not a gun expert. I mean, I'm not
Speaker 1: a gun guy.
Speaker 4: Them apparently he is also separated from his wife. I
Speaker 4: don't want to bring his wife into this for several years,
Speaker 4: and how old are his kids? The kid looked kind
Speaker 4: of young in the picture twenty in his early twenties
Speaker 4: with them and industing coming down.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, please, don't go there. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: don't go there. First, first of all, the only comment
Speaker 1: I saw from his wife, whose name is paul Ette,
Speaker 1: he was a great dad and all of that. I
Speaker 1: don't know if if there's a personal thing going on here, but.
Speaker 4: No, it's gotta be something.
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm trying to say, Phil is it's
Speaker 1: gotta be something pretty serious that someone's gonna pop the guy,
Speaker 1: you know, at six forty five in the morning outside
Speaker 1: the New York Hilton.
Speaker 4: Hotel, even if the guy had a picture of him
Speaker 4: in front of him for the twelve miles he spent
Speaker 4: at twenty four hours he spent at the hospital, which
Speaker 4: he used, probablycause his lost cams there. How, even if
Speaker 4: you had that picture, you wouldn't be able to identify
Speaker 4: the guy you shot. So then you mentioned the fact
Speaker 4: which door, I said, Yeah, I don't know what's door.
Speaker 4: That says the main.
Speaker 1: Thing, Well, apparently. Look, I've been at the New York Hilton.
Speaker 1: I can't remember it, but I know that I've been
Speaker 1: there for an event or two when Donald Trump was
Speaker 1: elected president in twenty sixteenth. That is where his headquarters.
Speaker 1: It's a big hotel, a big hotel, and so just
Speaker 1: like a lot of the hotels in Boston. If you
Speaker 1: go to the Park Plaza in Boston, I think there's
Speaker 1: three separate entrances to the Park Plaza. So so how
Speaker 1: does he know he's standing? I guess he's standing between
Speaker 1: a couple of cars. How does he know that that
Speaker 1: that's the moment in time? And you know what? And
Speaker 1: how is he confident that at the moment that this
Speaker 1: guy walks in that there's not some police officer that
Speaker 1: turns the corner?
Speaker 4: I mean the phone he might have received a call
Speaker 4: from the person that hired him, following him into the
Speaker 4: Hillton Baby.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know, Phil, Yeah, there's there's there's so
Speaker 1: much more to the story, and I appreciate it. Look,
Speaker 1: do me a favor, Never use that other phone again
Speaker 1: when you call it. I said, this was a good connection.
Speaker 1: Is this is this a landline? Usually landline? It's that
Speaker 1: the cell phone is a cheap oach. All right, man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you Phil one question. One do you
Speaker 1: think this case gets solved and how quickly, in your opinion,
Speaker 1: does it get solved?
Speaker 4: Well, like you say, the pictures, my phone can't a
Speaker 4: little link this certainly, and he might be dead, like
Speaker 4: you say, because the guy that hid who knows, Yeah,
Speaker 4: that was stupid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when he asked this film. Have you seen the picture,
Speaker 1: the picture that they released today, the full face picture.
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 4: I don't with a hood he was doing no hood involved.
Speaker 1: I had a hood on, but he had taken his
Speaker 1: mask down. According to the story, and I forget it
Speaker 1: was which paper was in that he had taken the
Speaker 1: mask down, and he was flirting with the woman at
Speaker 1: the hostel.
Speaker 4: I did seeing him pitchy smile in front of Oh.
Speaker 1: He looked like it looks like a friendly kid.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, And with all camera you can't do
Speaker 4: anything today with I'm getting.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess that's a good thing in this case.
Speaker 1: Thanks Phil, talk to you later. But let me go
Speaker 1: next to Judy. Judy, Judy, Judy's in Boston. Hi, Judy,
Speaker 1: how are you?
Speaker 5: Hi? I'm good, but I have a question.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't see how you can have quite this assassination,
Speaker 5: which is awful, with Martin Luther King and John Kennedy.
Speaker 5: I mean, this man was nowhere in that category.
Speaker 1: I'm not equating him with them. What I said just
Speaker 1: so people will be clear and so I can explain
Speaker 1: it to you. I said that we went in this
Speaker 1: country for many, many years without any sort of political assassinations.
Speaker 1: Obviously World War two, the nineteen fifties were a quiet
Speaker 1: time in this country. President Kennedy was assassinated in November
Speaker 1: of nineteen sixty three. We just recognized the sixty first anniversary,
Speaker 1: and then shortly after Kennedy was assassinated, you had the
Speaker 1: assassination of Malcolm X, Bobby Kennedy, of Martin Luther King,
Speaker 1: the shoot.
Speaker 5: But how can you equate them.
Speaker 1: I'm not acquitting anything. Let me finish my explanation then
Speaker 1: you could charticize me. I'm not equating it at all.
Speaker 1: This guy. Everybody knew who John Kennedy was when he
Speaker 1: was assassinated. He was the President of the United States.
Speaker 1: No one knew who this guy was on Tuesday afternoon,
Speaker 1: except people who probably worked with him at United Healthcare
Speaker 1: The point that I'm trying to say is that is
Speaker 1: that I was trying to the point I was trying
Speaker 1: to make was is this going to start these sorts
Speaker 1: of of of murders or assassinations. This was almost an
Speaker 1: assassination of this guy.
Speaker 5: I have to ask, were you were you thus upset
Speaker 5: when the children and the schools were killed?
Speaker 1: Very upset?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 1: Were you not upset by that? I mean, that was
Speaker 1: a kid.
Speaker 5: That was a kid much more than this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that's fine, that's fine. That was a kid
Speaker 1: who suffered from serious mental health. His mother as opposed
Speaker 1: to getting him health help. I remember that case vividly, vividly.
Speaker 1: The mother should have gotten that kid some help. That
Speaker 1: kid was sitting in his in his room. He had
Speaker 1: pulled I think all the curtains down, he had covered
Speaker 1: up his windows to the outside world, and all he
Speaker 1: did was play video games all the time. And his mother,
Speaker 1: to try to help him, got him a gun and
Speaker 1: took him to the shooting range. And the morning before
Speaker 1: this kid went to the school and killed the twenty
Speaker 1: young kids and the six teachers in Newtown.
Speaker 5: Canne lots of those assassinations, which to me are a
Speaker 5: lot worse.
Speaker 1: Well, I would agree with you when you start talking
Speaker 1: about twenty children, but it's got nothing to do with
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about tonight. The point I was trying
Speaker 1: to make, which I'm going to make, whether you want
Speaker 1: me to make it or not, is that I'm fearful
Speaker 1: that this is going to put the idea of killing
Speaker 1: heads of companies you get upset with, you know, pick
Speaker 1: a company, you get upset with a company, and if
Speaker 1: you're a little off, you say, well, what I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do is gonna go shoot the head of the company.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like, uh, that That's what bothers me. I think
Speaker 1: anybody who would take a gun and shoot Robert Kennedy
Speaker 1: or Martin Luther King, they are by definition nuts. This kid,
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's nuts or if he was
Speaker 1: hired to do this, but this is a worrisome development
Speaker 1: in how we are going to live here in America
Speaker 1: if this can happen to the CEO of a major
Speaker 1: healthcare company at six forty five in the morning, Judy,
Speaker 1: thank you for the call. Nonetheless, have you called the show?
Speaker 1: Is this your first time?
Speaker 5: I think I called several years ago.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, come call again.
Speaker 1: In several years. Okay, nice to talk to, have a
Speaker 1: great night. Good night. It's a funny world, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Six one seven thirty six seven nine three one ten thirty. Uh.
Speaker 1: I'm simply asking the questions. That's all I'm asking tonight.
Speaker 1: This is a subject that I think everybody is intrigued by,
Speaker 1: probably repulsed by. At the same time. I don't want
Speaker 1: to go into the personal life of this guy. I
Speaker 1: know nothing about his personal life at all. I just
Speaker 1: want to know, how can this happen? I mean, this
Speaker 1: is a guy who's walking to some sort of an
Speaker 1: investment conference, probably schedule. People knew about it, and he's
Speaker 1: a When I use the word assassination, I mean he's
Speaker 1: shot for no reason. That's an assassination. It's not a
Speaker 1: political assassination, but it's an assassination. We've had two attempts
Speaker 1: on the life of President Trump this summer. One shot
Speaker 1: that came within a couple of inches of his brain,
Speaker 1: hit him, thank god, in an ear and missed him.
Speaker 1: You know, this is New York City. There were police everywhere.
Speaker 1: This kid had to I don't know. I mean, you
Speaker 1: talk about judgment, he got away with it. He killed
Speaker 1: the person he wanted to kill. I wonder if he's
Speaker 1: still alive tonight. I'm trying to think this through and
Speaker 1: I'm looking for some help. Join me on the conversation.
Speaker 1: Coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 2: Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1: Let's keep rolling here, going to Tim and Woober and Hey, Tim,
Speaker 1: appreciate your calling in your thoughts on this this story,
Speaker 1: which really I think is interesting.
Speaker 7: I'm very impulsed by the whole thing. It's unbelievable they
Speaker 7: can shoot anyone. I don't know what the heck's going on,
Speaker 7: but it's terrible. But the main reason I called is
Speaker 7: to wish you happy holidays.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you very much. What what do you what?
Speaker 1: What do you celebrate at this time? If you're Christmas, Hanukah, Kwanza,
Speaker 1: what's your holiday?
Speaker 7: No, I am a Catholic Christmas, Well I am.
Speaker 1: Too, so I want to wish you merry Christmas.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I'm a long time listener, third time caller.
Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent, well call more often. You're the You're the
Speaker 1: nicest call of the night. I really wish you merry
Speaker 1: Christmas and whatever holiday all of our listeners celebrate, whether
Speaker 1: it's Kwanza or or Rhonica or Christmas. I'm not a
Speaker 1: big happy Holidays guy. I'm much more about I want
Speaker 1: to know what you celebrate so I can wish you
Speaker 1: happy holidays. Is kind of like vanilla ice cream. I
Speaker 1: like v.
Speaker 7: Let me just say this. You are the best. What
Speaker 7: you do for the community and what you the patient
Speaker 7: you have with some people is unbelievable. That patient you have,
Speaker 7: I say, I don't know how he does it.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it helps. I just had a text from a
Speaker 1: friend of mine in a far away state. Uh and uh.
Speaker 1: That friend was listening and said, uh, you know, great topics.
Speaker 1: Although I get your humor, sometimes sometimes I just try
Speaker 1: to make a comment that is intended to make a point,
Speaker 1: but to do it as a gentleman, I guess.
Speaker 7: Is what you do it all the time. You have
Speaker 7: a lot of patience and you don't give them a
Speaker 7: hard time. It's unbelievable. I've listened every night I listened
Speaker 7: to you. I haven't listened to.
Speaker 2: You for years.
Speaker 7: This is a third time, long time listening, third time
Speaker 7: call in the last couple of years. But I will
Speaker 7: call again.
Speaker 1: Well, thanks Tim very much, and again hope you and
Speaker 1: yours have a great Christmas and tell your friends about Nightside.
Speaker 1: The thing that's great about a lot of people like
Speaker 1: to sit in front of watch television at night. And
Speaker 1: you know this is interesting because you get a pretty
Speaker 1: good cross section of the American public. And as I say,
Speaker 1: on a subject like this, I don't know the answers.
Speaker 1: I'm actually I'm trying. I'm really curious. The only ability
Speaker 1: I have is I'm curious. I like to find out
Speaker 1: what other people think. So that's yeah, I'm about the
Speaker 1: smartest guy.
Speaker 7: Merry Christmas and I'll be calling again.
Speaker 1: Sounds great. You know, I want to quote Albert Einstein.
Speaker 1: Einstein reportedly said I have no special talent. I'm only
Speaker 1: passionately curious. I'm passionately curious, and I love it when
Speaker 1: I when I meet someone like you over the phone.
Speaker 1: Someday we're going to bump into each other in the
Speaker 1: street and please say hello to me.
Speaker 7: Okay, Oh I definitely will. I'd love to meet you
Speaker 7: and shake your hand.
Speaker 1: Right back at you. Thanks, Tim, you made my knight.
Speaker 1: Uh you know what, Tim, I want to send you
Speaker 1: a night side tote bag.
Speaker 2: That nice.
Speaker 1: Okay, here's what I want you to do. You have
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Speaker 1: I'll give you your choice.
Speaker 7: Uh, coffee mug.
Speaker 1: All right, You're gonna You're gonna get a beautiful nightside
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Speaker 1: I want you every morning when you have coffee, think
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Speaker 2: That that would be great?
Speaker 7: Dan?
Speaker 1: Thanks a man, You're welcome in Merry Christmas to you.
Speaker 7: Thank you all right, don't hang up.
Speaker 1: Rob will get all the information. Where we're gonna go next,
Speaker 1: gonna go to mel in Boston. Hey Mail, how are
Speaker 1: you tonight?
Speaker 3: Hey Dan?
Speaker 1: How are you doing great? No, talk right into that
Speaker 1: phone for me so I can hear you.
Speaker 6: Well, Okay, go right ahead, Yeah man, how's it going
Speaker 6: doing great?
Speaker 1: Mail? What's what's your what's your take on all of this?
Speaker 6: So it's very interesting. I learned a lot about it
Speaker 6: just from listening tonight. Uh, thank you, And it just
Speaker 6: reminded me. This is a show on Peacock right now.
Speaker 6: It's called The Jackal, and I heard of that. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I've been listening to you talk about the guy's description,
Speaker 6: and The Jackal is pretty much almost like it just
Speaker 6: the same thing that the character in the shows. A
Speaker 6: young guy, good looking guy, looks like a like a
Speaker 6: college kid or like a young professional. Uh, knows how
Speaker 6: to how to adapt to different environment. This isn't the
Speaker 6: show you know, where like he knows how to interact
Speaker 6: with people, he knows the disguises. He just knows how
Speaker 6: to like maneuver just to position himself where he needs
Speaker 6: to be to get his target. He's a hitman, you know.
Speaker 6: And it's just like, yeah, and it's just so crazy
Speaker 6: that just happened. And this is like one of the
Speaker 6: top shows on that app right now, which is still
Speaker 6: going on, you know what I mean. I think there's
Speaker 6: a few episodes left. But it's just crazy how how that's.
Speaker 1: Well, this is real life. I mean, what we're doing,
Speaker 1: you and me right now is real life. I'm going
Speaker 1: to be fascinated to see how this turns out. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, when you think about, let's say, the attempted
Speaker 1: assassination of President Trump and Butler Pennsylvania, it's a twenty
Speaker 1: year old kid. We still don't have the real story
Speaker 1: behind that. This kid had telephones with encrypted messages. He's
Speaker 1: a twenty year old kid. Twenty year old kid should
Speaker 1: be out trying to spend time with his friends, you know,
Speaker 1: meet people his own age, socialized you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: His life is starting, and he basically takes a couple
Speaker 1: of shots at the President of the United States and a
Speaker 1: secret service guy, Popsham. But we still don't know all
Speaker 1: the information. I want to know what compelled him to
Speaker 1: try to shoot and kill Donald Trump. He's twenty years old.
Speaker 1: He shouldn't even be thinking about politics. He should be
Speaker 1: thinking about who's he going to be going out on,
Speaker 1: you know, to party with on the weekend.
Speaker 6: They're right, and I think when in both cases with
Speaker 6: Donald Trump and with this this new case, I don't
Speaker 6: think either one of those guys doing that alone or
Speaker 6: did it alone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's the commonality. You're smart, man. You
Speaker 1: you picked up on what I was saying you picked
Speaker 1: up on what I was laying down, and that is
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be a bit surprised if someone paid this
Speaker 1: dude and said, hey, here's this guy's picture, you're gonna
Speaker 1: pop him, and when he went to get his money,
Speaker 1: they might have popped this kid.
Speaker 6: Yeah he might not. He might. You're right, either he's
Speaker 6: out of the country or whom or he might not
Speaker 6: be allive. That's a possibility.
Speaker 1: And believe me, if he's out of the country, Uh,
Speaker 1: that doesn't protect him because he may be in a
Speaker 1: country that we can bring him back from, or there
Speaker 1: could be people who would go and get him and
Speaker 1: and and and dispose of him out of the country.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is man. Uh, this kid looks so calm,
Speaker 1: cool and collected thinking of what he was doing his
Speaker 1: whole life. He killed the guy, but he also do
Speaker 1: his own life. I mean, you know, not literally but figuratively,
Speaker 1: because I mean, if he's ever caught, he's going to
Speaker 1: spend the rest of his life in jail. This this
Speaker 1: is this is your classic murder one case. This is
Speaker 1: not two guys who are gott in an argument on
Speaker 1: a Friday night outside of bar and one guy knife
Speaker 1: the other guy. This is murdered, period, this cold blooded murder.
Speaker 6: This was premeditated, This was planned.
Speaker 1: Totally premeditated, premeditated, preplayed, cold blooded murder. Mel great call man,
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. You're you're restoring my faith in
Speaker 1: my audience. Thanks so much.
Speaker 6: Problem first time calling, first time.
Speaker 1: Studio audience.
Speaker 6: All right, yeah, I listened to you on my way
Speaker 6: to work every night.
Speaker 1: So yeah, come on, be called. And we always like
Speaker 1: to have second time, in third time in full time
Speaker 1: callers too. Okay, particularly good ones, and you're a good one.
Speaker 1: Thank you man. Well, what sort of holiday do you
Speaker 1: celebrate up coming?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: This next couple of little.
Speaker 6: Chris Christmas, Christmas, Christmas Christmas, Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas to you.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thanks bell, appreciate it very much. Hope you enjoyed.
Speaker 1: Talk to you soon. A good good night. Take a
Speaker 1: quick break. I got Christine, Gary and Jean. I got
Speaker 1: room for you six one seven, two five four ten
Speaker 1: thirty or six one seven nine three one ten thirty.
Speaker 1: Dial it up. Let's have it. Let's have at it now.
Speaker 2: Back to Dan Ray Mine from the Window World night
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Speaker 1: Back to the phones, we go. Let's wrap it up here,
Speaker 1: going to go to Jeane in Midford. Hi, Gene, welcome,
Speaker 1: next on nightside, Hello, Hi Jeene, welcome. Where are you?
Speaker 5: I'm home.
Speaker 8: I just got home from Mark.
Speaker 7: How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm doing great? What's your take on our subject tonight? Jean?
Speaker 8: Tell you what I think? So I gotta really wonder
Speaker 8: you just start out of then gettallo on on his ceo.
Speaker 8: CEO go against some medical bring that caused the talent
Speaker 8: or someone that he posted to him.
Speaker 1: Ah, but the CEO wouldn't be the guy who says, oh,
Speaker 1: we're not going to cover that. You know. Do you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? I mean it's this, this CEO
Speaker 1: probably never dealt with the individual in short, or the
Speaker 1: or the children of the individual in short.
Speaker 8: You know, but is he blaming the company? And could
Speaker 8: he be going against I mean, you don't know.
Speaker 1: I hear you, I hear you know, I understand the
Speaker 1: point you're making. Yeah, and that he's gonna he's gonna
Speaker 1: hurt the company by killing the CEO. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: what it's. It's a hell of a chance to take
Speaker 1: to be able to pull it off. Uh. And then
Speaker 1: once you pull it up, you pull it off. You
Speaker 1: know that you're going to be hunted. I mean, if
Speaker 1: this guy's alive, they're going to find him.
Speaker 8: Oh absolutely, And I think soon.
Speaker 1: I think sooner rather than later.
Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, it's only a matter of time.
Speaker 1: Did you see the picture that they released today. It's
Speaker 1: a full face version. It's a much clearer picture of
Speaker 1: his face. You know, it would be like, Gene if
Speaker 1: if you or me, maybe me because I'm a bit
Speaker 1: of a public figure. But if if somehow you robbed
Speaker 1: a bank and your face was shown and they put
Speaker 1: that picture out there, you'd have someone of your friends
Speaker 1: or relatives. That's my friend Jean from Medford.
Speaker 2: Hi.
Speaker 1: You know now that this full face picture is out,
Speaker 1: someone's going to recognize him definitely. Oh man, what the hell?
Speaker 1: Sort of where where's our country going at this point?
Speaker 1: You know, I just feel this is not a good development.
Speaker 8: No, not at all all.
Speaker 1: Jee thanks so much for thank you for calling in.
Speaker 1: Always great to hear your voice. We'll talk soon. And
Speaker 1: you celebrate Christmas. Let me wish you merry Christmas.
Speaker 8: If you do, you have a wonderful holiday.
Speaker 2: You two, however you celebrate, I celebrate Christmas?
Speaker 1: What do you celebrate.
Speaker 2: Christmas.
Speaker 1: Also, Merry Christmas.
Speaker 2: You thank you, thank you much.
Speaker 1: Let's keep rolling. Here're going to go to Christine and Detam.
Speaker 1: Hey Christine, welcome, you are next on night side. What
Speaker 1: are you thinking tonight?
Speaker 9: Well, I was talking to people tonight and they were
Speaker 9: saying that he was being threatened. But that's from what
Speaker 9: I heard and his wife that I was. I think
Speaker 9: he was like, like Tony an insurance playim against either
Speaker 9: that kid's family or him.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It just seems to me that it's one thing to
Speaker 1: get upset at a company. Uh you know whatever. I mean,
Speaker 1: you you go to a restaurant and you have a
Speaker 1: bad meal, what do you do come back and shoot something?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: You know, you suck it up and you move on.
Speaker 1: I mean, there has to be something deeper than this,
Speaker 1: because when you think about it, by him firing those bullets,
Speaker 1: he killed the guy. But he's life too. His own
Speaker 1: life is done done right.
Speaker 9: He left clues around, he left his cell phone on
Speaker 9: the ground, he left a chocolate candy bar on the ground.
Speaker 9: He rented one of those bikes you know you can rent,
Speaker 9: like like in Boston.
Speaker 1: Everything, Like what let me ask you have you seen
Speaker 1: the full the full picture of him that was released tonight.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, I don't care who you are.
Speaker 1: Someone is going to rap him out if who knows
Speaker 1: him and grabbed the ten thousand. First of all, there
Speaker 1: should be more than a ten thousand dollars reward. The
Speaker 1: company United United Healthcare should have a million dollar award right.
Speaker 9: Now, exactly.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 9: Yeah, So I don't know, it's specials. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, well we'll we'll all find out. And my
Speaker 1: sense is we're going to find out fairly soon. I
Speaker 1: could be wrong on.
Speaker 9: That, Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this kid's still alive. If he
Speaker 1: was a patsy and someone said to him, look, we'll
Speaker 1: give you twenty thousand dollars cold cash, No he sup.
Speaker 1: He took a bus into New York from somewhere. Someone's
Speaker 1: going to recognize him. This kid, this kid's going to
Speaker 1: be toast a lot sooner.
Speaker 9: I hope he's not a Massachusetts kid.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't care where it comes from. I just
Speaker 1: think for him to do something like that, it was cowardly, brutal,
Speaker 1: and then to go over and shoot the guy.
Speaker 2: I mean, give me a break, right right.
Speaker 1: I know, Christine, I know I'm going to talk to
Speaker 1: you before Christmas, but in the meantime, have a merry
Speaker 1: Christmas holiday season.
Speaker 9: A merry Christmas to you too, Dan.
Speaker 1: Thanks Christine.
Speaker 9: Talks and one tonight or just that.
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't see that? Who they beat?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 9: They beat King Philip thirty nine to twenty.
Speaker 1: That's a super Bowl game. Good for Catholic Memorial. They
Speaker 1: got a great program over the great academics and great sports.
Speaker 2: That's right, Thanks Christine, you have a great night.
Speaker 1: Last call of the night is my friend Gary and
Speaker 1: Woober and Gary, you're perfectly positioned to wrap the show tonight.
Speaker 1: What's your thoughts?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 10: You're a wonderful, wonderful person. What's my toatbag?
Speaker 1: I missed the last comment, Gary.
Speaker 10: That's okay, that's okay. I was joking around about the
Speaker 10: tow bag. You're a wonderful person.
Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, you don't need it. You don't need a
Speaker 1: tote bag. You have so much money you could buy
Speaker 1: a tote bag, a sweatshirt, a T shirt, and a
Speaker 1: coffee mug.
Speaker 10: I know you quit lyon ohten. One thing is this,
Speaker 10: these people who are rich and famous and so forth,
Speaker 10: president of companies and so forth, you're making over two
Speaker 10: hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year or more and
Speaker 10: so forth.
Speaker 2: In the MIDI this.
Speaker 1: Guy made ten million last year.
Speaker 10: Well, I think we come to a day and age,
Speaker 10: you know, probably the last fifty years of our lives.
Speaker 10: But these people should start higher in their own private security.
Speaker 10: Not twenty four hours a day, but at least combination
Speaker 10: in the daytime. And so once they hit home and
Speaker 10: they decided I'm staying home, got my security on, and
Speaker 10: as soon as I leave there six o'clock at night,
Speaker 10: I leave it until eight o'clock in the morning. Because
Speaker 10: they need to do this because their lives are online
Speaker 10: all the time. Professional athletes, Dan Ray, not me, only
Speaker 10: people who are famous agree Well.
Speaker 1: I think that pro athletes would be smart. As we
Speaker 1: found out in terms of what was it. Patrick mahomes
Speaker 1: house was broken into because you know, they're playing and
Speaker 1: they're playing on national television. You know, they should have
Speaker 1: some security people at their home and they're they're playing
Speaker 1: a game, because obviously that that's what we've seen a bunch.
Speaker 1: It was a basketball player for the Milwaukee Bucks, the
Speaker 1: tight End Kelsey's house got broken into Patrick Mahomes, So
Speaker 1: that's for sure, for sure. I don't know that professional
Speaker 1: athletes need need bodyguards, you know, I don't think anyone's
Speaker 1: out to harm a professional athlete. I don't think this
Speaker 1: guy probably have imagined that someone's going to shoot him
Speaker 1: in the back, but they probably when they're in public settings,
Speaker 1: should have some security people around them just in case. Yes,
Speaker 1: we hopefully, you know, hopefully most of us can live
Speaker 1: our lives in a free society without worrying about someone
Speaker 1: doing something stupid to us. But you know, you never know,
Speaker 1: you never know. Hey, Gary, have a great Christmas. If
Speaker 1: we don't talk before Christmas, Okay, have a great night,
Speaker 1: good night. All right, I'm done for the night, Rob,
Speaker 1: you have a great night. Tomorrow night, I'm off. Gary
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