WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:01.560 It's nice Eyes. 2 00:00:04.240 --> 00:00:05.519 Boston's news Radio. 3 00:00:06.280 --> 00:00:11.439 We're talking about the murder of the executive Ian Thompson, 4 00:00:12.039 --> 00:00:17.719 United Healthcare CEO. I am as confused and is concerned 5 00:00:17.719 --> 00:00:20.039 by this. There was an article that I read that 6 00:00:20.160 --> 00:00:28.600 suggested this indeed is this is indeed something that other 7 00:00:28.679 --> 00:00:35.880 companies have started to provide security for individuals, particularly individuals 8 00:00:36.399 --> 00:00:41.240 who are with companies, high value companies. And apparently, according 9 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:46.520 to one article that I read, this individual did have 10 00:00:46.640 --> 00:00:50.960 a security detail provided to him by his company while 11 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:53.600 he was in New York, but they were not with 12 00:00:53.719 --> 00:01:00.520 him at the time. Man, that's mention that this this 13 00:01:00.600 --> 00:01:08.560 is this is just it's getting Weirder's it's getting spokesman 14 00:01:08.560 --> 00:01:11.840 for United Health declined to provide details about security related 15 00:01:11.840 --> 00:01:15.200 to Thompson why the security team wasn't with him Wednesday morning, 16 00:01:16.400 --> 00:01:20.120 but a former senior security director at another major insurance 17 00:01:20.120 --> 00:01:22.480 company told CNN that it can often be difficult to 18 00:01:22.480 --> 00:01:25.920 get executives to accept security even when there are threats. 19 00:01:29.239 --> 00:01:33.159 United Healthcare CEO. That's according to CNN, Brian Thompson had 20 00:01:33.200 --> 00:01:35.840 an in house security detail assigned to him during his 21 00:01:35.879 --> 00:01:38.560 trip to New York City. According to a source familiar 22 00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:41.280 with the company security, but the detail wasn't with him 23 00:01:41.319 --> 00:01:46.719 when he was shot and killed sixty six one seven 24 00:01:46.920 --> 00:01:50.599 nine ten thirty. This is not a good development for 25 00:01:50.680 --> 00:01:53.640 this country in my opinion. Phil is in Boston. Phil, 26 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:57.599 you are next on Nightside. Welcome, I do it. 27 00:01:58.159 --> 00:02:02.000 Yeah, I'm guess him if I put my main ideas 28 00:02:02.040 --> 00:02:05.000 at the bullets, so we'll put that lipleo on there 29 00:02:05.719 --> 00:02:08.680 as I think it's the whole curve ball and I 30 00:02:08.800 --> 00:02:11.439 was take consumes them and lose them. You went in 31 00:02:11.479 --> 00:02:14.159 the orse door. That was a good point or an edit. 32 00:02:14.280 --> 00:02:15.639 And how even if you. 33 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:18.800 Had By the way, you're a little muffled tonight, Phil, 34 00:02:18.879 --> 00:02:21.479 Are you talking into your cell phone or you do? 35 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:24.800 You have the cell phone like twenty six inches from you? 36 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:26.800 You know, talk into the cell phones so we can 37 00:02:26.840 --> 00:02:28.080 hear you. You're sound muffled. 38 00:02:28.159 --> 00:02:29.840 Okay, how's that going? 39 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:34.360 Not much better? Are you one? But Phil, Rob clean 40 00:02:34.439 --> 00:02:36.919 up Phil's audio for us. In the meantime, I'm going 41 00:02:36.960 --> 00:02:40.199 to go to Dave and San Antonio. Dave, welcome, next 42 00:02:40.240 --> 00:02:40.960 on Nightside. 43 00:02:41.960 --> 00:02:47.759 Yeah, I'm got an unusual story for this. Dan. I well, 44 00:02:47.840 --> 00:02:51.639 I had you not need healthcare and I went to 45 00:02:51.719 --> 00:02:56.759 the dentist and to get a set of false teeth, 46 00:02:58.159 --> 00:03:03.000 and uh, they pulled a lot of teeth out of 47 00:03:03.039 --> 00:03:07.159 my head so that they could. They said they had to, 48 00:03:07.479 --> 00:03:13.199 that these teeth were bad. And uh so I said, okay, did. 49 00:03:13.120 --> 00:03:15.319 You get let me ask you this day, did you 50 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:19.039 without going into deep details here of did you get 51 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:23.120 implants or or what type of what sort of replacement 52 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:23.879 teeth did you get? 53 00:03:24.599 --> 00:03:28.400 I was looking for implants. 54 00:03:27.439 --> 00:03:30.800 Not covered generally, implants are not covered by. 55 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:35.759 I know, I know, I know, and they were covered. 56 00:03:36.120 --> 00:03:39.159 They said they covered two thousand dollars worth of them, 57 00:03:40.759 --> 00:03:46.560 that my dental coverage was, but they didn't. I just 58 00:03:46.719 --> 00:03:49.439 chose to get the false teeth because the implants were 59 00:03:49.520 --> 00:03:53.159 more expensive. Thing and it was all settled, and then 60 00:03:53.240 --> 00:03:57.560 they did what they did. They made the false teeth 61 00:03:57.680 --> 00:04:03.960 and they didn't fit at all, you know, And I 62 00:04:04.039 --> 00:04:05.800 called you not a healthcare and I says, you do? 63 00:04:05.840 --> 00:04:12.439 You say these guys are reputable, and uh, nothing works? 64 00:04:12.759 --> 00:04:15.599 And okay, so what was what's the bottom line, David? 65 00:04:16.879 --> 00:04:21.360 Well, they fired the that they've whoever fired the whole 66 00:04:21.639 --> 00:04:26.040 damn office, all of them and put in new people 67 00:04:26.759 --> 00:04:29.519 under the same name and. 68 00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:34.519 Confusing me. So let me I don't want my audience 69 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:40.160 to be confused. So was the who fired the dentist? 70 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:42.680 Did in other words, did the office that employed the 71 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:46.600 dentist fire the the dentist? Are you suggesting that United 72 00:04:46.639 --> 00:04:50.240 Healthcare somehow that that was or I really don't help. 73 00:04:51.519 --> 00:04:54.000 I don't know, Dan, And it was more than a dentist. 74 00:04:54.120 --> 00:04:57.319 It was the entire office. I mean they were like. 75 00:04:57.360 --> 00:04:59.879 Four So fair enough. Okay, So you don't know tell 76 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:04.800 at the point of this he so kind uh tell 77 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:07.319 me to the point of your story. It's interesting that 78 00:05:07.399 --> 00:05:11.839 you had to get you know, false teeth. Okay, my audience, 79 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:15.360 I'm sure is interested in that. But that can happen 80 00:05:15.399 --> 00:05:18.439 to anybody. What does it have to do with the 81 00:05:18.480 --> 00:05:19.920 story we're covering. 82 00:05:20.560 --> 00:05:23.439 Well, it was not in healthcare. And all I'm saying 83 00:05:23.600 --> 00:05:27.439 is if people get that kind of treatment, like you know, 84 00:05:27.480 --> 00:05:30.160 when you get to healthcare they say we support this, 85 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:32.240 well you can go to this one, this one, and 86 00:05:32.319 --> 00:05:35.399 this one, this these are who I pay for. And 87 00:05:35.560 --> 00:05:39.399 if that has something to do with what happened to me, 88 00:05:40.160 --> 00:05:42.680 I think that probably. I don't think I'm the only 89 00:05:42.759 --> 00:05:47.800 story like this where you know, well. 90 00:05:47.639 --> 00:05:51.000 I'm sure that there are more people Dave, every day 91 00:05:51.680 --> 00:05:56.079 who are disappointed in the amount or the quality of 92 00:05:56.199 --> 00:05:59.319 the health insurance that they get. I mean, you do, 93 00:05:59.399 --> 00:06:02.519 you pay your health insurance and you have issues or problems. 94 00:06:02.720 --> 00:06:06.680 But how many people are gonna somehow stalk the ceo? 95 00:06:07.000 --> 00:06:09.600 I don't even know for the most part, I know 96 00:06:09.639 --> 00:06:12.199 who Brian Thompson is now, but did you know his 97 00:06:12.319 --> 00:06:16.360 name beforehand? I don't think you would have no right. Absolutely, 98 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:19.600 I know that there's ahead person. But how many people 99 00:06:19.680 --> 00:06:23.360 that are going to go out and plan and plot 100 00:06:23.680 --> 00:06:27.600 uh an assassination over that? I mean, most people say, Okay, 101 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:32.079 you know, I'll change my company, I'll get a I'll 102 00:06:32.079 --> 00:06:35.560 get a different a different company. You know. I'm sorry 103 00:06:37.000 --> 00:06:41.319 you have you blamed. I blame United Healthcare for that experience, Dave. 104 00:06:42.639 --> 00:06:45.480 Well, they certainly supported these people and told me that 105 00:06:45.560 --> 00:06:50.399 they were reputable people to go to, and they. 106 00:06:50.639 --> 00:06:54.360 Would that would that prompt you to commit violence against 107 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:56.000 the CEO of the company? 108 00:06:56.319 --> 00:07:00.839 Of course? Not? Of course not. But I'm not crazy. 109 00:07:01.279 --> 00:07:06.959 I know that I know that. Okay, what do you 110 00:07:07.040 --> 00:07:10.720 think they would to speculate as to what you think 111 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:14.759 is going on? I mean, your story is interesting, but 112 00:07:14.839 --> 00:07:19.639 it doesn't help me move you know our thoughts about 113 00:07:19.680 --> 00:07:20.680 how this could happen. 114 00:07:22.800 --> 00:07:25.240 Well, all I could say it was about twenty or 115 00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:28.560 thirty healthcare is is they just got healthcare employees that 116 00:07:28.639 --> 00:07:30.879 they just boom out of it. 117 00:07:31.600 --> 00:07:36.160 Okay, very insightful. I think you've given us some information 118 00:07:36.279 --> 00:07:39.120 that is invaluable. And how are the false teeth going? 119 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:40.120 And are they working? 120 00:07:40.199 --> 00:07:42.240 Okay, I don't have any. 121 00:07:42.639 --> 00:07:44.560 You don't have any. Okay, Well, I'm sorry. 122 00:07:44.360 --> 00:07:48.920 To hear that out because they did. I didn't get any. 123 00:07:49.000 --> 00:07:51.279 I didn't get any, and they get some. 124 00:07:51.439 --> 00:07:53.399 Dave, I know that there were bill out there tonight. 125 00:07:53.800 --> 00:07:56.279 Maybe we should start some sort of a GoFundMe page 126 00:07:56.279 --> 00:07:57.120 for you. What do you think? 127 00:07:57.639 --> 00:08:01.399 No, No, I'm dan. I just call because the way 128 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:05.000 they fired the entire building. I mean the way like 129 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:06.279 twenty or thirty people. 130 00:08:06.279 --> 00:08:08.920 Get fired all the time day. I don't know that 131 00:08:08.920 --> 00:08:11.240 that's but anyway, thanks for the call. I appreciate it. 132 00:08:11.279 --> 00:08:16.439 We'll take a break. Six one, seven, two, five, four 133 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:19.319 ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. 134 00:08:19.800 --> 00:08:24.120 It's amazing how one of the things you learn about 135 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:29.399 as a talk show host is human nature. I thought 136 00:08:29.399 --> 00:08:32.200 I understood human nature having been a television reporter. But 137 00:08:32.759 --> 00:08:40.120 it's amazing how people somehow personalize their experience and somehow 138 00:08:40.120 --> 00:08:43.960 are able to project that onto another set of circumstances. 139 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:46.200 I mean, it's interesting what Dave went through, and I 140 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:48.879 suspect all of us at some point have had a 141 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:54.000 disappointing experience. But what could drive someone. I mean, first 142 00:08:54.039 --> 00:08:59.519 of all, there's no indication that the shooter was suffered 143 00:08:59.519 --> 00:09:03.720 a bad experience. Maybe we'll find out that his mother 144 00:09:03.799 --> 00:09:08.000 didn't get I mean, I don't know. I don't have it. 145 00:09:08.919 --> 00:09:11.960 This I'm looking at and saying to myself, there's something 146 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:16.320 amiss here. This was a planned hit. This is not 147 00:09:16.519 --> 00:09:19.039 some guy who's in a bar at eleven o'clock or 148 00:09:19.120 --> 00:09:22.039 midnight on a Friday night who gets in a fight 149 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:25.399 with someone. They take it outside and the guy pulls 150 00:09:25.440 --> 00:09:27.639 a gun and he happens to shoot you. Hear stories 151 00:09:27.639 --> 00:09:30.039 about this. There'll be some I guarantee you there'll be 152 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:34.759 some major league athlete in the next six months who 153 00:09:34.759 --> 00:09:36.720 will be shot at a bar. Look at there was 154 00:09:36.759 --> 00:09:42.240 the San Francisco San Francisco forty nine or football player 155 00:09:42.240 --> 00:09:44.919 I think his last name is Presley, I believe, for 156 00:09:44.919 --> 00:09:48.840 a first round draft choice before the season started. He 157 00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:51.600 was shot in a robbery at daylight robbery in San Francisco, 158 00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:54.480 obviously in the wrong place at the wrong time. You 159 00:09:54.679 --> 00:09:58.639 have those stories nearly died, nearly died, they saved his life, 160 00:09:58.639 --> 00:10:00.840 and he's back playing for the forty and I guess 161 00:10:00.840 --> 00:10:03.279 he had his first touchdown pass a couple of a 162 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:07.600 couple of weeks ago. But that is that's different than 163 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:11.360 what we're talking about here. This is this is a hit. 164 00:10:12.120 --> 00:10:15.679 This is a planned hit. Either it was planned by 165 00:10:15.720 --> 00:10:20.120 this guy or someone else planned it for him, and 166 00:10:20.200 --> 00:10:24.240 he was paid to do the hit. Where is this guy? 167 00:10:25.360 --> 00:10:30.559 They have a full face visual of this guy. Someone 168 00:10:30.679 --> 00:10:32.960 is going to look at that and say, oh my god, 169 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:36.159 do you know who that is? I went to college 170 00:10:36.200 --> 00:10:38.559 with him or I went to high school with him. 171 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:41.919 That's how that case is going to be broken. And 172 00:10:41.960 --> 00:10:45.120 then the questions we what's the motive? My question is 173 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:47.039 if if this guy was some sort of a guy 174 00:10:47.039 --> 00:10:49.919 who was paid as a hit man, didn't look like 175 00:10:49.960 --> 00:10:52.600 a hit man. I mean, his didn't look like a 176 00:10:52.720 --> 00:10:56.399 hardened hit man as you would see in movies, looked 177 00:10:56.440 --> 00:11:00.679 like could have been a college student. This, this, to 178 00:11:00.720 --> 00:11:03.919 me fast is a fascinating story. I'd love to hear 179 00:11:04.000 --> 00:11:07.399 your theory, your thoughts six seven thirty or six one 180 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:11.720 seven nine thirty, come right back on night Side. Now 181 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:14.720 back to Dan Ray live from the Window World night 182 00:11:14.840 --> 00:11:19.960 Sight Studios on WBZ News Radio. I'm looking for someone 183 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:22.720 who looks at this, and maybe there's some police out 184 00:11:22.759 --> 00:11:25.000 there who tonight could look at this and say, hey, 185 00:11:25.279 --> 00:11:28.320 here's what I think. My question is, if this kid 186 00:11:29.320 --> 00:11:32.960 was hired as a hit man, he may not be 187 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:35.799 alive right now when you think about it, because if 188 00:11:35.799 --> 00:11:39.519 somebody hired him as a hit man, uh, they might 189 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:42.440 want to get rid of him. I don't know. That 190 00:11:42.639 --> 00:11:45.279 was mentioned to me by a police friend of mine today. 191 00:11:45.360 --> 00:11:48.039 I'd love to hear what what others might think. We're 192 00:11:48.080 --> 00:11:50.000 going to go back to Phil, Phil as I understand 193 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:52.080 that you now have changed to a different phone. 194 00:11:52.200 --> 00:11:55.720 Let's hear how this one sounds fine? 195 00:11:55.960 --> 00:11:58.480 Oh yeah, man, Phil, it's like we fill that out 196 00:11:58.480 --> 00:12:00.000 of the cheap phone away? Will you? 197 00:12:00.159 --> 00:12:03.639 I ain't not tell me about it? Yeah, damn, I'm sorry, 198 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:07.960 I'm thinking it. These are three bullets of the cay 199 00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:11.840 things they found. I think they're a curve ball to 200 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:15.960 send someone down the path and the insurance thing, and 201 00:12:16.039 --> 00:12:19.000 apparently he bought apparently I think I heard somebody he 202 00:12:19.039 --> 00:12:22.000 bought he bought the gun recently. And it's an it's 203 00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:25.600 a World War two kind of an antique gun that's 204 00:12:25.720 --> 00:12:26.799 kind of hard to buy. 205 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:31.919 And how where did you see that? Because I've I've 206 00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:34.080 looked at as much as I could. Today, Phil, I 207 00:12:34.120 --> 00:12:37.399 haven't seen that anywhere. I'm not suggesting that you're inaccurate, 208 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:38.960 but I haven't seen that anywhere. 209 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:42.799 They described it as a World War two I'm. 210 00:12:42.679 --> 00:12:45.559 Just curious what media source if you remember that. 211 00:12:45.759 --> 00:12:47.840 I believe I heard on the radio. 212 00:12:48.639 --> 00:12:50.519 Right, But there's a lot of radio stations. 213 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:54.159 Did you competitors, is what I'm I. 214 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:57.039 Don't want to No, that's good, So one of our competitors. Okay, 215 00:12:57.080 --> 00:13:00.240 Well again, I've looked at everything I could, and now 216 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:03.600 they haven't seen that. If maybe tomorrow we'll see it. 217 00:13:05.279 --> 00:13:08.480 I don't know that there are that many World War 218 00:13:08.519 --> 00:13:11.120 two guns around. There's probably people in the audience who 219 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:12.080 would have a better sense. 220 00:13:12.559 --> 00:13:14.559 A spy it's a spy gun. They call it the 221 00:13:14.919 --> 00:13:19.519 best p y gun. What I heard. 222 00:13:19.799 --> 00:13:22.480 Yeah, I'm not a gun expert. I mean, I'm not 223 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:23.159 a gun guy. 224 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:28.000 Them apparently he is also separated from his wife. I 225 00:13:28.039 --> 00:13:30.799 don't want to bring his wife into this for several years, 226 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:34.440 and how old are his kids? The kid looked kind 227 00:13:34.480 --> 00:13:37.080 of young in the picture twenty in his early twenties 228 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:39.559 with them and industing coming down. 229 00:13:40.279 --> 00:13:42.679 Oh no, no, please, don't go there. No, no, no, 230 00:13:42.679 --> 00:13:46.159 don't go there. First, first of all, the only comment 231 00:13:46.240 --> 00:13:48.200 I saw from his wife, whose name is paul Ette, 232 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:51.200 he was a great dad and all of that. I 233 00:13:51.240 --> 00:13:55.720 don't know if if there's a personal thing going on here, but. 234 00:13:57.440 --> 00:13:59.840 No, it's gotta be something. 235 00:13:59.840 --> 00:14:01.559 I guess what I'm trying to say, Phil is it's 236 00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:05.799 gotta be something pretty serious that someone's gonna pop the guy, 237 00:14:06.279 --> 00:14:08.840 you know, at six forty five in the morning outside 238 00:14:08.879 --> 00:14:09.960 the New York Hilton. 239 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:13.559 Hotel, even if the guy had a picture of him 240 00:14:13.799 --> 00:14:15.919 in front of him for the twelve miles he spent 241 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:18.519 at twenty four hours he spent at the hospital, which 242 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:21.799 he used, probablycause his lost cams there. How, even if 243 00:14:21.799 --> 00:14:23.799 you had that picture, you wouldn't be able to identify 244 00:14:23.879 --> 00:14:28.000 the guy you shot. So then you mentioned the fact 245 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:32.000 which door, I said, Yeah, I don't know what's door. 246 00:14:32.240 --> 00:14:33.159 That says the main. 247 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:36.000 Thing, Well, apparently. Look, I've been at the New York Hilton. 248 00:14:36.080 --> 00:14:38.600 I can't remember it, but I know that I've been 249 00:14:38.639 --> 00:14:41.120 there for an event or two when Donald Trump was 250 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:44.200 elected president in twenty sixteenth. That is where his headquarters. 251 00:14:44.240 --> 00:14:48.159 It's a big hotel, a big hotel, and so just 252 00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:50.120 like a lot of the hotels in Boston. If you 253 00:14:50.159 --> 00:14:52.600 go to the Park Plaza in Boston, I think there's 254 00:14:52.639 --> 00:14:56.720 three separate entrances to the Park Plaza. So so how 255 00:14:56.759 --> 00:14:59.840 does he know he's standing? I guess he's standing between 256 00:14:59.879 --> 00:15:02.960 a couple of cars. How does he know that that 257 00:15:02.960 --> 00:15:06.320 that's the moment in time? And you know what? And 258 00:15:06.399 --> 00:15:09.279 how is he confident that at the moment that this 259 00:15:09.279 --> 00:15:12.360 guy walks in that there's not some police officer that 260 00:15:12.399 --> 00:15:13.200 turns the corner? 261 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:17.360 I mean the phone he might have received a call 262 00:15:17.440 --> 00:15:20.440 from the person that hired him, following him into the 263 00:15:20.519 --> 00:15:21.200 Hillton Baby. 264 00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:27.559 Maybe I don't know, Phil, Yeah, there's there's there's so 265 00:15:27.679 --> 00:15:31.480 much more to the story, and I appreciate it. Look, 266 00:15:31.519 --> 00:15:33.639 do me a favor, Never use that other phone again 267 00:15:33.639 --> 00:15:35.440 when you call it. I said, this was a good connection. 268 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:40.000 Is this is this a landline? Usually landline? It's that 269 00:15:40.120 --> 00:15:43.639 the cell phone is a cheap oach. All right, man, 270 00:15:45.480 --> 00:15:49.120 I'm gonna ask you Phil one question. One do you 271 00:15:49.159 --> 00:15:52.360 think this case gets solved and how quickly, in your opinion, 272 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:53.200 does it get solved? 273 00:15:54.440 --> 00:15:57.639 Well, like you say, the pictures, my phone can't a 274 00:15:57.720 --> 00:16:00.840 little link this certainly, and he might be dead, like 275 00:16:00.919 --> 00:16:04.039 you say, because the guy that hid who knows, Yeah, 276 00:16:04.480 --> 00:16:05.320 that was stupid. 277 00:16:06.039 --> 00:16:10.799 Yeah, when he asked this film. Have you seen the picture, 278 00:16:10.919 --> 00:16:14.600 the picture that they released today, the full face picture. 279 00:16:15.240 --> 00:16:15.720 I didn't. 280 00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:18.399 I don't with a hood he was doing no hood involved. 281 00:16:18.519 --> 00:16:20.480 I had a hood on, but he had taken his 282 00:16:20.559 --> 00:16:24.440 mask down. According to the story, and I forget it 283 00:16:24.639 --> 00:16:26.879 was which paper was in that he had taken the 284 00:16:27.039 --> 00:16:31.000 mask down, and he was flirting with the woman at 285 00:16:31.000 --> 00:16:32.000 the hostel. 286 00:16:32.399 --> 00:16:35.360 I did seeing him pitchy smile in front of Oh. 287 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:37.000 He looked like it looks like a friendly kid. 288 00:16:37.120 --> 00:16:42.159 I mean, yeah, And with all camera you can't do 289 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:44.600 anything today with I'm getting. 290 00:16:44.279 --> 00:16:46.000 Well, I guess that's a good thing in this case. 291 00:16:46.039 --> 00:16:48.200 Thanks Phil, talk to you later. But let me go 292 00:16:48.279 --> 00:16:51.759 next to Judy. Judy, Judy, Judy's in Boston. Hi, Judy, 293 00:16:51.759 --> 00:16:52.159 how are you? 294 00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:55.679 Hi? I'm good, but I have a question. 295 00:16:56.440 --> 00:16:56.759 I don't. 296 00:16:57.720 --> 00:17:01.639 I don't see how you can have quite this assassination, 297 00:17:01.879 --> 00:17:06.559 which is awful, with Martin Luther King and John Kennedy. 298 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:11.640 I mean, this man was nowhere in that category. 299 00:17:12.160 --> 00:17:15.640 I'm not equating him with them. What I said just 300 00:17:16.200 --> 00:17:19.000 so people will be clear and so I can explain 301 00:17:19.039 --> 00:17:22.920 it to you. I said that we went in this 302 00:17:23.039 --> 00:17:30.880 country for many, many years without any sort of political assassinations. 303 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:36.160 Obviously World War two, the nineteen fifties were a quiet 304 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:41.799 time in this country. President Kennedy was assassinated in November 305 00:17:41.799 --> 00:17:47.200 of nineteen sixty three. We just recognized the sixty first anniversary, 306 00:17:47.400 --> 00:17:51.440 and then shortly after Kennedy was assassinated, you had the 307 00:17:51.480 --> 00:17:55.759 assassination of Malcolm X, Bobby Kennedy, of Martin Luther King, 308 00:17:55.799 --> 00:17:56.160 the shoot. 309 00:17:56.319 --> 00:17:57.759 But how can you equate them. 310 00:17:57.799 --> 00:18:01.119 I'm not acquitting anything. Let me finish my explanation then 311 00:18:01.160 --> 00:18:04.839 you could charticize me. I'm not equating it at all. 312 00:18:05.519 --> 00:18:08.559 This guy. Everybody knew who John Kennedy was when he 313 00:18:08.599 --> 00:18:11.079 was assassinated. He was the President of the United States. 314 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:13.599 No one knew who this guy was on Tuesday afternoon, 315 00:18:13.640 --> 00:18:16.759 except people who probably worked with him at United Healthcare 316 00:18:17.079 --> 00:18:19.519 The point that I'm trying to say is that is 317 00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:21.839 that I was trying to the point I was trying 318 00:18:21.880 --> 00:18:26.880 to make was is this going to start these sorts 319 00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:30.640 of of of murders or assassinations. This was almost an 320 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:32.759 assassination of this guy. 321 00:18:33.480 --> 00:18:36.880 I have to ask, were you were you thus upset 322 00:18:37.240 --> 00:18:40.319 when the children and the schools were killed? 323 00:18:40.680 --> 00:18:41.720 Very upset? 324 00:18:42.480 --> 00:18:42.880 Okay? 325 00:18:43.319 --> 00:18:46.359 Were you not upset by that? I mean, that was 326 00:18:46.400 --> 00:18:46.759 a kid. 327 00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:49.759 That was a kid much more than this. 328 00:18:50.079 --> 00:18:52.440 Yeah, well, that's fine, that's fine. That was a kid 329 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:56.839 who suffered from serious mental health. His mother as opposed 330 00:18:56.880 --> 00:19:01.599 to getting him health help. I remember that case vividly, vividly. 331 00:19:02.519 --> 00:19:05.920 The mother should have gotten that kid some help. That 332 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:08.799 kid was sitting in his in his room. He had 333 00:19:08.839 --> 00:19:11.759 pulled I think all the curtains down, he had covered 334 00:19:11.839 --> 00:19:14.680 up his windows to the outside world, and all he 335 00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:17.519 did was play video games all the time. And his mother, 336 00:19:17.599 --> 00:19:21.119 to try to help him, got him a gun and 337 00:19:21.160 --> 00:19:24.640 took him to the shooting range. And the morning before 338 00:19:24.720 --> 00:19:27.119 this kid went to the school and killed the twenty 339 00:19:27.160 --> 00:19:29.720 young kids and the six teachers in Newtown. 340 00:19:29.759 --> 00:19:34.200 Canne lots of those assassinations, which to me are a 341 00:19:34.240 --> 00:19:34.960 lot worse. 342 00:19:35.799 --> 00:19:38.000 Well, I would agree with you when you start talking 343 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:40.519 about twenty children, but it's got nothing to do with 344 00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:42.480 what I'm talking about tonight. The point I was trying 345 00:19:42.480 --> 00:19:44.920 to make, which I'm going to make, whether you want 346 00:19:44.960 --> 00:19:47.640 me to make it or not, is that I'm fearful 347 00:19:48.039 --> 00:19:51.680 that this is going to put the idea of killing 348 00:19:52.039 --> 00:19:56.279 heads of companies you get upset with, you know, pick 349 00:19:56.279 --> 00:19:59.440 a company, you get upset with a company, and if 350 00:19:59.480 --> 00:20:01.920 you're a little off, you say, well, what I'm gonna 351 00:20:01.920 --> 00:20:03.559 do is gonna go shoot the head of the company. 352 00:20:03.640 --> 00:20:03.799 You know. 353 00:20:03.839 --> 00:20:07.319 It's like, uh, that That's what bothers me. I think 354 00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:11.599 anybody who would take a gun and shoot Robert Kennedy 355 00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:17.519 or Martin Luther King, they are by definition nuts. This kid, 356 00:20:18.359 --> 00:20:20.480 I don't know if he's nuts or if he was 357 00:20:20.559 --> 00:20:26.240 hired to do this, but this is a worrisome development 358 00:20:26.680 --> 00:20:29.400 in how we are going to live here in America 359 00:20:29.559 --> 00:20:32.319 if this can happen to the CEO of a major 360 00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:36.359 healthcare company at six forty five in the morning, Judy, 361 00:20:36.400 --> 00:20:38.480 thank you for the call. Nonetheless, have you called the show? 362 00:20:38.920 --> 00:20:40.160 Is this your first time? 363 00:20:40.799 --> 00:20:42.920 I think I called several years ago. 364 00:20:43.559 --> 00:20:45.839 Yeah, well, come call again. 365 00:20:45.880 --> 00:20:48.680 In several years. Okay, nice to talk to, have a 366 00:20:48.680 --> 00:20:54.119 great night. Good night. It's a funny world, isn't it. 367 00:20:54.200 --> 00:21:00.000 Six one seven thirty six seven nine three one ten thirty. Uh. 368 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:04.519 I'm simply asking the questions. That's all I'm asking tonight. 369 00:21:04.799 --> 00:21:07.839 This is a subject that I think everybody is intrigued by, 370 00:21:08.640 --> 00:21:13.680 probably repulsed by. At the same time. I don't want 371 00:21:13.680 --> 00:21:15.480 to go into the personal life of this guy. I 372 00:21:15.519 --> 00:21:19.400 know nothing about his personal life at all. I just 373 00:21:19.440 --> 00:21:22.440 want to know, how can this happen? I mean, this 374 00:21:22.480 --> 00:21:25.200 is a guy who's walking to some sort of an 375 00:21:25.200 --> 00:21:30.200 investment conference, probably schedule. People knew about it, and he's 376 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:33.240 a When I use the word assassination, I mean he's 377 00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:36.920 shot for no reason. That's an assassination. It's not a 378 00:21:36.920 --> 00:21:41.200 political assassination, but it's an assassination. We've had two attempts 379 00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:44.599 on the life of President Trump this summer. One shot 380 00:21:44.640 --> 00:21:47.680 that came within a couple of inches of his brain, 381 00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:55.160 hit him, thank god, in an ear and missed him. 382 00:21:55.319 --> 00:21:58.680 You know, this is New York City. There were police everywhere. 383 00:21:58.920 --> 00:22:01.559 This kid had to I don't know. I mean, you 384 00:22:01.920 --> 00:22:07.680 talk about judgment, he got away with it. He killed 385 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:09.839 the person he wanted to kill. I wonder if he's 386 00:22:10.039 --> 00:22:13.839 still alive tonight. I'm trying to think this through and 387 00:22:13.880 --> 00:22:17.119 I'm looking for some help. Join me on the conversation. 388 00:22:17.240 --> 00:22:18.559 Coming back on Nightside. 389 00:22:19.319 --> 00:22:24.440 Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 390 00:22:25.079 --> 00:22:28.160 Let's keep rolling here, going to Tim and Woober and Hey, Tim, 391 00:22:28.200 --> 00:22:32.119 appreciate your calling in your thoughts on this this story, 392 00:22:32.119 --> 00:22:33.880 which really I think is interesting. 393 00:22:35.039 --> 00:22:39.079 I'm very impulsed by the whole thing. It's unbelievable they 394 00:22:39.119 --> 00:22:42.400 can shoot anyone. I don't know what the heck's going on, 395 00:22:42.480 --> 00:22:46.000 but it's terrible. But the main reason I called is 396 00:22:46.079 --> 00:22:47.839 to wish you happy holidays. 397 00:22:48.680 --> 00:22:50.759 Well, thank you very much. What what do you what? 398 00:22:50.960 --> 00:22:54.200 What do you celebrate at this time? If you're Christmas, Hanukah, Kwanza, 399 00:22:54.240 --> 00:22:55.079 what's your holiday? 400 00:22:55.359 --> 00:22:59.680 No, I am a Catholic Christmas, Well I am. 401 00:22:59.559 --> 00:23:02.599