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<v Speaker 1>Reach down and grab a couple of plump tomatoes. It's

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<v Speaker 1>time for sports ketchup. Catchupun sports sports catcher, catchup, buns.

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<v Speaker 1>I would totally go see that man in the eighties. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>that man sounds great. Uh you'all want to catch up

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<v Speaker 1>on the j Kid thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, very so.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Stein, who used to broadcast in this very studio,

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<v Speaker 1>had a report to He had a report Tuesday that

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<v Speaker 1>the Knicks were going to ask permission to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Kidd, and you know, we talked about the other

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<v Speaker 1>day and then we talked about the connections that made

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<v Speaker 1>sense as to why there was a kid Nick's connection.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he had another report today saying they have asked

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<v Speaker 1>for permission now, so it's escalated and it's now are

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<v Speaker 1>the Mavericks going to give them permission?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Udoka, the coach of the Houston Rockets. Houston, according to Stein,

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<v Speaker 1>has put out a word that you can ask permission.

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<v Speaker 1>You ain't getting it. We're not coming off of him now.

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<v Speaker 1>I have not heard what the Mavericks are or aren't

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<v Speaker 1>going to do. But as Stein got into it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about the connection with you know, Jalen Brunson.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about Casey Smith and I had mentioned this

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<v Speaker 1>the other day and Stein talked a little bit about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Casey was involved in getting Kid hired here

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<v Speaker 1>there was a group of guys that worked with Cuban.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've seen a lot of people out there on

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<v Speaker 1>the internet be like, Okay, well if you're getting rid

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<v Speaker 1>of Kid, like, why wouldn't you get rid of Nico?

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if people remember Nico and Kid

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<v Speaker 1>were hired independently of one another. That was not Nico's hire.

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<v Speaker 1>Nico was in the process of getting hired when Kid

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<v Speaker 1>got hired, so they were not They knew each other,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were not hey, this is the GM and

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<v Speaker 1>here's my coach. They were an arranged marriage and then

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<v Speaker 1>they had a lot of success together. So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that, you know, I know that they've found ways

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<v Speaker 1>to work together, but I don't know that Kid has

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<v Speaker 1>some strong allegiance to Nico and vice versa.

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<v Speaker 2>But they've done a good job working together.

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<v Speaker 3>So do we know if Nico has his own guy,

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<v Speaker 3>Like like if the Mavericks came off a Jay Kidd

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<v Speaker 3>and hopefully they'd get something good in return if they

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<v Speaker 3>did that and essentially traded their coach. Would they just

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<v Speaker 3>take one of the in house guys or does Nico

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<v Speaker 3>have a relationship with some coach out there.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the really interesting thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he does, but I don't know it because

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<v Speaker 1>usually an executive comes from some tree and you can

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<v Speaker 1>start connecting dots.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know who that would be.

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<v Speaker 3>It'd have to be US Olympics, right, like it would

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<v Speaker 3>be like the USA guys.

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<v Speaker 1>So or maybe you know, when he was with Nike,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a guy like you know that was a Nike client.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a I mean, I don't know. I'm totally speculating.

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<v Speaker 1>But they have two highly coveted guys on their staff.

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<v Speaker 1>Jared Dudley is highly coveted and Sean Sweeney almost got

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<v Speaker 1>the Phoenix job, right, and so he's he's highly respected

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<v Speaker 1>and in there's talk that Memphis is interested in stealing

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<v Speaker 1>Dudley to be an assistant there and that Sweeney's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get Oh Sweeney.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently the San Antonio Spurs want him to be on

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<v Speaker 2>their staff.

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<v Speaker 3>Why wouldn't you just do what Jerry Jones won't do

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<v Speaker 3>and just say, who is the greatest coach on earth?

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<v Speaker 3>Who's available, Let's go get that guy because we have

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<v Speaker 3>so much to lose here. Yeah, we can't mess this up.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know that I want to roll the dice

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<v Speaker 3>with a young guy. Maybe it's good, maybe it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>But why wouldn't you just say, who is the greatest

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<v Speaker 3>coach on earth? Who's available, Let's go get him?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that'd be good. And I like Tom Cruise,

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<v Speaker 1>Like Tom Cruise, even go get him? And also like

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Sweeney's been here and I've watched him run practice,

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<v Speaker 1>like players are familiar with him.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, so much of this has to do with

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<v Speaker 1>Kyrie and Anthony Davis and who they like. Anthony Davis

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<v Speaker 1>played with Jared Dudley in LA when they want a championship, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So there's that kind of an idea. There's also keep

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<v Speaker 1>in mind, which I had forgotten about this until I

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<v Speaker 1>read Stein's article, Kid interviewed with the Knicks when Thibodeaux

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<v Speaker 1>got the job, and apparently did really well in the interview,

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<v Speaker 1>but they went with Tibbs. So there's other connections there

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<v Speaker 1>besides the brunch and the Casey thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think and I don't know this.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think kids looking to get out of here,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think kids like probably going, oh, this is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty awesome because the Western Conference as hard as hell,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Eastern Conference Celtics are being dismantled. The Pacers,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we talked about them earlier. They're lightning in

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<v Speaker 1>a bottle. So if you're looking at getting to the finals, man,

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<v Speaker 1>the Knicks are going to be front.

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<v Speaker 3>Runners next year in the Eastern Conference. You still have

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<v Speaker 3>a contender with the number one pick, which is rare.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. That seems to buy you a lot of time

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<v Speaker 2>to stay.

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<v Speaker 1>Kids in an amazing position, you know, to be wanted

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<v Speaker 1>by what is going to be the best team in

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<v Speaker 1>the Eastern Conference next year. And also this is a

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<v Speaker 1>wild card, but if Johanness were to force himself out

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<v Speaker 1>of Milwaukee, he loves Chason Kidd and so that puts

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<v Speaker 1>the Knicks and the catbird seat to be one of

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<v Speaker 1>the teams that Jannis would want to go to.

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<v Speaker 2>How could they get him?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it'd be like Karl Anthony Towns and Michale

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<v Speaker 1>Bridges that sort of a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, you know, but I mean if I'm you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so weird that we haven't heard anything on Janni's

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not one hundred percent sure that he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>force his way out of there, and there's no way

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<v Speaker 1>for the Mavericks to get him without giving up Cooper flag.

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<v Speaker 2>To get Jannis, now, I wouldn't even entertain he's like skid.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I'm saying, like, the wouldn't you start giving

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<v Speaker 1>up all the salary and what takes a get him.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna You're gonna be like, you're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>back to that. Okay, if we don't win in the

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<v Speaker 1>next six months, we're over.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds a lot better for the Knicks.

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<v Speaker 3>You're giving up Karl Anthony Towns, who sucks in comparison

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<v Speaker 3>to Giannis.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you'd have to get it like Michale Bridge.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd have to give up a lot. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Brunson and Jannie that's what Jannis wanted with Dame

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<v Speaker 1>in Milwaukee, right. So anyways, it's just interesting to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I can tell you this, the Knicks

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<v Speaker 1>have a couple picks, not a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>They have their own pick.

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<v Speaker 1>I think in twenty six I think they have Washington's

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<v Speaker 1>pick that they're hanging on.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty thirteen, Doc Rivers is traded from the Celtics to

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<v Speaker 3>the Clippers for a first round pick.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, twenty thirteen. Gosh thirteen, So it was a twenty

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen first round pick.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And then in twenty fourteen the Nets traded Jason Kids

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<v Speaker 2>to the Bucks for two second round picks. Yeah, kid's

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<v Speaker 2>been traded before.

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<v Speaker 1>The president we have for that, though we didn't have it,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's like a decade ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, man, a Knick's first round pick in twenty six

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<v Speaker 3>is not going to be good.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be second b. Yeah, it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be been to the fuck Washington pick. We guys to

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<v Speaker 2>give up that Washington pick.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's top eight protected next year, which Washington's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a bottom four.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right, interesting stuff there. Could the Mavericks be

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<v Speaker 3>trading Jason Kidd? That's that's pretty crazy, all right. Coming

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