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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine hileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than on

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So, since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families. Each Tuesday we bring you our thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>a newer entertainment property, and for this week of August twelfth,

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<v Speaker 2>we're continuing with A Gentleman in Moscow, a limited series

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<v Speaker 2>on Paramount Plus. This episode was called The Fall, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was very dramatic, extremely because.

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<v Speaker 1>It was and sad and scared and oh my goodness. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but first before all that, they did such a smooth

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<v Speaker 1>time transition, yes, and that was delightful. She goes out

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<v Speaker 1>the door a little girl and the door revolves around it,

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<v Speaker 1>she comes out of it as surly teenager.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and the actor that they have their sisters, right,

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<v Speaker 2>are they sisters? Because they did a wonderful job of

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<v Speaker 2>picking actors that look alike.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they have the same last name, okay Gadsden, and

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<v Speaker 1>I looked up the older one. It says that her

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<v Speaker 1>sister with a different first name played her younger sister

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<v Speaker 1>and something. So I think that this is yet another

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<v Speaker 1>younger sister. Oh wow, Because all these girls must look

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<v Speaker 1>alike because they really It works, Yeah, it works great. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so good for those Gadsdens. Have yourself a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>kids look alike and you can use them for multi

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<v Speaker 1>decade movie and TV products. That's right way to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. So we only got the little the little gadst

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<v Speaker 2>and the little Sophia for one episode, which was last

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<v Speaker 2>last time. And now she's a teen ever so briefly, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>now she's a tea.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't know I was saying about her. I just

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<v Speaker 1>let you were going to school, Oh my goodness, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you grew up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And now Alexander is no longer uncle, he's papa.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's adorable, very sweet. Yes, And the entire hotel

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<v Speaker 1>is her family, and Anna has sort of taken on

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<v Speaker 1>a motherly role, and Olga is sort of the grandma,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, everybody's sort of participating in her upbringing, which

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<v Speaker 1>is very sweet and seems like the sort of thing

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<v Speaker 1>that would not be allowed. But okay, fine, just clearly,

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<v Speaker 1>we're clearly beyond the rules here until something happens that, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>reinforces the fact that there's still are rules. Yes, although

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<v Speaker 1>a great many folks are in the business of subverting.

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<v Speaker 2>Them figuring out how to bend them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it does not help that the weasel is now

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<v Speaker 1>the hotel manager. That's right, man, that guy. That guy

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<v Speaker 1>is motivated, he's he's worked his way up from waiter

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<v Speaker 1>to the head of the whole establishment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so when bad for us, Sophia falls, that's the fall.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're running around. It seems to me that Alexander

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<v Speaker 2>is too old for this game.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think so, how was he supposed to old?

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<v Speaker 1>Is he supposed to be by now?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean probably like fifties, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>But I could not run a ball, I could not

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<v Speaker 1>walk up all those flights of stairs. I would be

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping on a catch.

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<v Speaker 2>If you'd still be playing the count to two hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>Games right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But so they're they're running around playing and Sophia falls,

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<v Speaker 2>like the banister breaks. You know, we've got like a

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<v Speaker 2>lawsuit if yes, we're wearing up to his USA sell

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<v Speaker 2>up in the right, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's these aren't the ones that the customers generally use, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but workers come Yes, that was terrifying. So Sophia falls

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<v Speaker 1>and it's you know, she falls a couple story like

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<v Speaker 1>a long way down and she hits her head, and

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<v Speaker 1>so Alexander just is like, forget it, I'm taking her

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<v Speaker 1>to the hospital. I'm you know, he's obviously not supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be leaving the hotel.

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<v Speaker 2>But he will not.

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<v Speaker 2>He goes, not stand for just sitting back and watching

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<v Speaker 2>somebody else take her.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, right, So I can see where he would

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<v Speaker 1>have that inclination, but handing her over to somebody else

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<v Speaker 1>seems like that would have been a good idea. And

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<v Speaker 1>also he's probably expecting hospitals to be like hospitals were

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<v Speaker 1>when he was out right, and I mean I suppose

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<v Speaker 1>they're more, maybe better because it's been a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>but still also not good. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he gets there and it's dark, dirty, dingy

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<v Speaker 2>people are piled up in the halls just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's very grim, so right, good thing, our old

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<v Speaker 2>pal oh Sip comes along to save the day and

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<v Speaker 2>get a good surgeon to take care of Sophia.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, like that guy, yeh see potential, he's so mean

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<v Speaker 1>at the beginning. Now their fellow Papa's you know, Papa's

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<v Speaker 1>got to stick together, yes, right. They wind up putting

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<v Speaker 1>together some sort of ruse that even though everybody, a

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<v Speaker 1>large number of people saw him leave, all of those

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<v Speaker 1>people except for the Weasel, are saying, no, no, he's

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<v Speaker 1>right here, he's here, right, And then he gets smuggled

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<v Speaker 1>in on a bakery trust that's right right in the

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<v Speaker 1>sight of the not very observant soldiers. And then he

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<v Speaker 1>just waltzes out into the lobby like he's been there

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<v Speaker 1>all like he was in Anna's all night and has

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<v Speaker 1>been here all time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and much to the chagrin of the weasel, who's

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<v Speaker 2>really made to be a complete fool.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have thought, given the army guy's request to

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<v Speaker 1>for Siberia. How is he still there after? How does

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<v Speaker 1>this not affect his departure, which we have been longing

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<v Speaker 1>for low these many weeks. Okay, because we see him

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<v Speaker 1>at the end plotting something. M well, we see his

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<v Speaker 1>hands plotting something, but I'm pretty sure they were attached

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<v Speaker 1>to him, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, he's like making a dossier for Sophia, I

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<v Speaker 2>believe at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So why is that guy still around in a

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<v Speaker 1>position where he could do that? I don't know. Osip

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have quite that much.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess he can do a lot of things. He

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<v Speaker 2>can get the surgeon, and he can get the bread

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<v Speaker 2>truck and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was lovely. See you watch It's a wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>life and it gets to your heart and you can't

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<v Speaker 1>help it. You can be disdainful, but you're gonna want

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<v Speaker 1>to help people. Now all the people you've helped will come. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So and so by the end, everything is, uh, everybody's together,

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<v Speaker 1>every Sophia is playing the piano.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Marian married the chef.

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<v Speaker 1>So now who did that turn out to be?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's not the chef. He was like

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<v Speaker 2>the dormance kind of the concierge type person. Yes, yes, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>not the chef. The chef married Marina. The seamstress.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, were there boys back at the end there? Because

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<v Speaker 1>it looked like her son was there.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it definitely her son. I'm not sure if

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<v Speaker 2>both of them ended up back, but we didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Hear that story because we had figured they were as

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<v Speaker 1>good as dead last week. Yeah yeah, I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>well okay then yeah, yes, this isn't gonna be that bleak.

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<v Speaker 1>But next week does not look promising because Sophia's voiceover says,

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<v Speaker 1>the narrator says that that was the last time they

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<v Speaker 1>were all together. Yeah, there's still two episodes to go, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that could also be referring to Olga leaving

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<v Speaker 2>because she got married.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, well that's true. You know the answers, I

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<v Speaker 1>do know the answer I do not.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I mean, once again, I'm sad that there's

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<v Speaker 2>only two episodes left. I mean, I don't want them

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<v Speaker 2>to add stuff that's not in the book just to

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<v Speaker 2>make it longer. But I'm really.

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<v Speaker 1>Does there seem about two episodes worth of stuff left? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, i'd say. You know, when I read this book,

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<v Speaker 2>the first few chapters, it took a little while to

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<v Speaker 2>get me hooked. Yeah, you know, it's just him like

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<v Speaker 2>trying to adjust to his new situation. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>since it does cover so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Time, Yes, how does that work in the book? Do

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<v Speaker 1>they just like from one chapter to the next its skips?

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<v Speaker 1>Do they put like the year at the top of

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<v Speaker 1>each chapter or section.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the year or the number of days or some

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<v Speaker 2>num days, Yeah, like they had done in some of

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<v Speaker 2>the episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like it's a pretty good adaptation? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I'm I'm excited to see how how they

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<v Speaker 2>do wrap it up, but I'll be sad when it's over. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know. It makes me nervous week to week, like,

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<v Speaker 1>and poor Anna, boy, she sure got yeah. Oh, she's

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<v Speaker 1>doing this very noble deed to try to distract the

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<v Speaker 1>army guy from Alexander. Yeah, and he's like, I have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea who you are, but if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>go upstairs and show me that, kay. And then we

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<v Speaker 1>find out sort of in passing that the Minister of

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<v Speaker 1>Culture is no longer that or possibly alive.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and he had been her just her champion, so yikes.

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<v Speaker 2>So at least she got us Alexander's lighter back that

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<v Speaker 2>this that's rightful man, had stolen from his room.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Oh yeah, but uh so she's apparently just going

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<v Speaker 3>to stay at the hotel now and be uh you know,

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<v Speaker 3>be together with Alexander.

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<v Speaker 1>Not in his room, are you kidding?

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, He's like, you you can move in here.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, honey, you do not know me well enough.

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<v Speaker 1>As long as I have enough pull for a suite,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm taking a sweet buddy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can visit me, not the other way around,

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<v Speaker 2>my friend oil done.

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<v Speaker 1>I was surprised when they were searching his room they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't find the little secret room. I thought that was coming.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, nope, nope, it's it's well hidden in the

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<v Speaker 2>arm wire there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, it's a good thing. They close that all up

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<v Speaker 1>every time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that's why hang and open. Yes. And in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of parenting, the episode started off with Alexander being

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<v Speaker 2>a real like helicopter dad and like, how dare you

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<v Speaker 2>sit next to a boy on a piano bench And

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<v Speaker 2>Anna's like, you need to relax, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>See what happens is you do that sort of thing

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<v Speaker 1>and then you feel bad and to apologize to your kids.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a lot of fun, You run around, you

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<v Speaker 1>do something fun and then she falls and hits her

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<v Speaker 1>head and almost dots. Yes, just don't mess around in

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<v Speaker 1>the first place, right, don't get her mad in the.

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<v Speaker 2>First place, right, and then you won't have to.

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<v Speaker 1>Deal with that and sending her off to school. When

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<v Speaker 1>her with somebody else. Yeah, ah, just never never. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>of course she has to go to school. How do

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<v Speaker 1>you It's like I think, now, if you went down

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<v Speaker 1>school district, so I guess I'll be coming here, would

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<v Speaker 1>there not be some I mean, does he have a

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<v Speaker 1>guardianship papers? I don't know. I think these days this

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<v Speaker 1>would not hold. Well. I guess then it's like, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>the country's in turmoil, whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, we need to raise the next generation of communists,

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<v Speaker 2>so please then.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right. We asked no questions, little comrades

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<v Speaker 1>go on him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, and it's it was like World War Two

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<v Speaker 2>during the years that we've skipped, right, So yeah, presumably

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<v Speaker 2>people had other things on their minds. I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and oh, that terrible feeling when your kid is

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<v Speaker 1>you know, running into hospital saying you will pay attention

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<v Speaker 1>to me now. When my son had his ruptured ulcer,

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<v Speaker 1>he pretty much went into the er and said you

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<v Speaker 1>will pay attention to me now until they did. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's the most helpless feeling in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Just the administrative state that kicks in in those situations

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<v Speaker 1>is so maddening. Uh, But at least it's helpful if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a friend who you know can bring you

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<v Speaker 1>the best surgeon around. That's right. Cultivate a friendship like that, everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>It's my parenting advice. It's a parenting tip from the

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<v Speaker 1>gentleman at Moscow. Find you a friend like OSU. Make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that should something happen, he will set you up. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the way. That's the way to do it. Otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>you're just kind of floating.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, next Tuesday, we'll float on into episode seven.

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<v Speaker 2>It is called an assembly, and we'll see you back

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