Speaker 1: Billy Cunning in the Great America, Welcome to this floor.
Speaker 1: Is Tuesday afternon in the Tri States the Reds Baseball,
Speaker 1: they have one in a row and so in fact
Speaker 1: two in a row. They won Sunday and Monday. So
Speaker 1: if they win the next ten games they might be
Speaker 1: back in it. They're only like three and a half
Speaker 1: games out of a wildcard. They have to leap over
Speaker 1: eighteen teams, but if they get there, they'll be in
Speaker 1: the wildcard. And tonight Hunter Green, who I think, according
Speaker 1: to David Young of Warren County, Hunter Green may be
Speaker 1: related to Hunter Biden. The two have the same first name.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that's accurate, but I want to check
Speaker 1: in with David Young on the tennis tournament. So much more,
Speaker 1: plus the wards of Jason Williams yesterday that talked about
Speaker 1: following Jimmy Haslin to leave downtown Cleveland and go south
Speaker 1: into the suburbs and build a big deal. And is
Speaker 1: that possible for one of the six or seven outlying counties,
Speaker 1: maybe in Boone County, Tony Bender and a bunch of
Speaker 1: investments get together and build a stadium for the tune
Speaker 1: of two to three billion dollars and then there'll be
Speaker 1: a big return on that in about thirty five years.
Speaker 1: But until then, Dave Young, welcome again to the Bill
Speaker 1: cunning Him Show, the tennis tournament, the Bengals moving and more.
Speaker 1: Have you seen evidence of Hunter Green pitching tonight related
Speaker 1: somehow to Hunter Biden?
Speaker 2: Is that possible, Willie? That is an excellent topic to
Speaker 2: start off with, seeing with my great allegiance and desire
Speaker 2: to be a professional baseball player and my performing at
Speaker 2: such a high level at Red's Fantasy Camp each and
Speaker 2: every year. Yes, I thought I was going to get
Speaker 2: the call up. But I will say Hunter Green is
Speaker 2: a fine young man. I like him. I have met him.
Speaker 2: He has earned his money through completely legal channels, and
Speaker 2: he is not doing a side hustle of painting pictures
Speaker 2: for big money. He is actually throwing a baseball and
Speaker 2: earning his keep. So I don't know if there is
Speaker 2: a direct Actually I'm sure there's not a correlation between
Speaker 2: the two Hunters.
Speaker 1: Well, you never know, because Hunter Biden sold some of
Speaker 1: his art for seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars for
Speaker 1: a painting to a rich democrat who now is the
Speaker 1: ambassador to Switzerland, And so I know there's no connection
Speaker 1: between the seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars paid to
Speaker 1: Hunter Biden to get the ambassadorship. It looks a little
Speaker 1: Have you noticed that once you go into politics, if
Speaker 1: you're Nancy Pelosi or if you're Mitch McConnell, even though
Speaker 1: you make one hundred and sixty two thousand dollars a year,
Speaker 1: which seems like a lot of money, but you live
Speaker 1: in two places, you pay taxes. Taxes in Washington, DC
Speaker 1: are confiscatory, that somehow there's a direct correlation between the
Speaker 1: number of years you're in politics making a little no
Speaker 1: money and your net worth. Is there any truth to
Speaker 1: Warren County being the same way that you've gone into politics,
Speaker 1: And of course you were a rich guy before you
Speaker 1: went in you're a rich guy now. But have you
Speaker 1: noticed in Washington, d C. That the longer you're in politics,
Speaker 1: the more money you make and you build homes along
Speaker 1: the Atlantic Ocean? Have you noticed that?
Speaker 2: Another very interesting question, And maybe I don't understand money
Speaker 2: that well, even though that's what I did for a
Speaker 2: living for a long time. When it's publicly disclosed on
Speaker 2: your financial documents, you're a politician, how much money you're
Speaker 2: worth when you take office, you have to disclose a
Speaker 2: ballpark of what that looks like. Then you make a
Speaker 2: publicly disclosed salary. We the people pay you a salary
Speaker 2: to do a certain job. Then, miraculously, four or eight
Speaker 2: years later, you go from being worth you know, a
Speaker 2: few hundred thousand dollars, maybe a couple of million bucks,
Speaker 2: and you're worth thirty million, wow, or in some cases
Speaker 2: one hundred million as a president when frugal work community organized.
Speaker 2: I don't maybe, but you know, hey, maybe they made
Speaker 2: a million bucks on a book. But man's that's an
Speaker 2: unbelievably good return on your investment advisor, I guess well.
Speaker 1: The Clinton's left office in twenty oh one, Hillary said
Speaker 1: we're broke. Within about four or five years, they're worth
Speaker 1: three hundred million dollars. The Obama's left office with little
Speaker 1: or no money. They're worth a half a billion dollars.
Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell, they're Republican out of Kentucky is worth one
Speaker 1: hundred million. And one of the greatest things is Nancy Pelos.
Speaker 1: She's now worth, according to her estimates, two hundred to
Speaker 1: four hundred million dollars, and she must be very frugal
Speaker 1: with her money. And of course Joe Biden, he's buying
Speaker 1: houses along the Atlantic coastline. He never made more than
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty two thousand, Tili became the president
Speaker 1: making four hundred thousand. He must be very frugal. He's
Speaker 1: buying multi million dollar mansions on the coastline.
Speaker 2: That's not bad.
Speaker 1: I mean, you got to save your money. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about something more Germane really, yeah, we got you a
Speaker 1: hard stop.
Speaker 2: I'm in too good of a freaking mood. It's perfect weather,
Speaker 2: perfect time of year, perfect stuff going on around the
Speaker 2: corner at the Mason Tennis Tournament. It's unbelievable. That's what
Speaker 2: I want to talk about.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about tennis and then the Bengals possibly moving.
Speaker 1: First of all, the tennis tournament. It's underway with Ted
Speaker 1: McKay and it's hot and heavy. I see that seventy percent.
Speaker 1: I didn't know this. Seventy percent of those who attend
Speaker 1: the tournament do not live in the tri States, So
Speaker 1: seventy percent come from forty nine other states. They come
Speaker 1: from Europe, come from Asia. Unbelievable and to keep that
Speaker 1: as such a win, even though the Jokers not playing
Speaker 1: Alcatraz Is? How was yesterday? How will this afternoon be?
Speaker 1: How about tomorrow? When should I attend? If at all?
Speaker 2: You should attend often? And it's literally unbelievable. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm not exactly an emotional guy, will unless I getn't,
Speaker 2: you know, talking about my kids or something. But Saturday
Speaker 2: I went up there for the first time on Community Day,
Speaker 2: which used to be kind of a throwaway day they
Speaker 2: called the tournament. There was really nothing going on, just
Speaker 2: getting the operations going. They sold seven thousand tickets plus
Speaker 2: the people that were there on passes and things. There
Speaker 2: was I don't know ten thousand people around that stadium
Speaker 2: to watch a charity match with Agacy, Roddick and Eisner.
Speaker 2: And it was literally unbelievable, Willie. I was sarr yesterday.
Speaker 2: Bands playing literally they they've transformed this fan area where
Speaker 2: it used to be just so hot in the asphalt
Speaker 2: and it was terrible. They put this fan centric philosophical
Speaker 2: approach to everything out there. They've made it into like
Speaker 2: a garden. There are these massive trees. I don't even
Speaker 2: there where the you get landscaping trees this big. I
Speaker 2: mean it's all shaded out there now. It is so
Speaker 2: much better. There was two different bands playing, and it's
Speaker 2: like there was activity and it's great tennis to watch.
Speaker 2: But there was just a lot of stuff going on
Speaker 2: that was fun. All the restaurants, bars everywhere. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was just a heck of a lot of fun
Speaker 2: and people were clearly having fun yesterday at the Sensei
Speaker 2: Open in Warren County.
Speaker 1: And just for fun. And next year is going to
Speaker 1: be two weeks instead of one week. Once we'll stretch
Speaker 1: on a seventeen days an economic engine, which brings me
Speaker 1: to my next question, your friend and mine. Jason Williams
Speaker 1: of the Inquiry and Here wrote a column about why
Speaker 1: it would be almost impossible for the Bengals to move
Speaker 1: anywhere but on the riverfront, following the lead of Jimmy Haslin,
Speaker 1: who's the owner of the Brown's worth about nine billion dollars.
Speaker 1: Because he's going to put up half the money, which
Speaker 1: is about one and a half billion. They're going to
Speaker 1: give him two hundred and fifty acres. He's going to
Speaker 1: develop it all. He's going to be the landlord for
Speaker 1: hundreds of apartment's, going to be the landlord for strip centers,
Speaker 1: going to have condo projects and swimming pools and dancing
Speaker 1: girls and dancing bears. And that's going to be twenty
Speaker 1: five miles south of Cleveland, which is a good idea.
Speaker 1: The closer you get to Cleveland, the more your nostrils
Speaker 1: begin to flare and you smell stuff. You get out
Speaker 1: of Cleveland things a little bit better. And so he
Speaker 1: made the point in the inquir that the odds of
Speaker 1: the Bengals leaving Cincinnati downtown Cincinnati out to Warren County
Speaker 1: or Claremont County or Boone County, despite the heavy investment
Speaker 1: of Tony Bender and Boone County around the airport, is
Speaker 1: almost non existent. Now your names come up because you're
Speaker 1: the grand economic emperors area of Warren County that kept
Speaker 1: the tennis tournament. You expand that King's Island all Hell's
Speaker 1: break and lose great place to live from your general overlook,
Speaker 1: what are the odds of the Bengals using Warren County
Speaker 1: as reached to stay in Cincinnati and get a better
Speaker 1: deal from Alisha Reese also known as Elisha Bridges because
Speaker 1: she loves the nightlife. What are the odds.
Speaker 2: Remote at best? Because here's the situation, and I like
Speaker 2: Jason Williams, a lot super talented writer. I will say,
Speaker 2: and I have to. As part of the victory tour
Speaker 2: of keeping the tennis tournament, there was one particular Inquire
Speaker 2: story written by said reporter that said, basically, I was
Speaker 2: crazy and it was about to turn into the pickleball
Speaker 2: mecca of the Midwest. Correct, and they were losing the
Speaker 2: tennis tournament. And god, I didn't know what I was
Speaker 2: talking about. And I have to a little bit say
Speaker 2: that maybe other people that know what they were talking
Speaker 2: about when I said it was going to stay and
Speaker 2: we had a really good shot, maybe I was right.
Speaker 2: But anyway, I digress. So I'm not living in the past.
Speaker 2: I'm not happy today, William. I'm moving forward. Tennis is
Speaker 2: being played around the corner. It's awesome when you talk
Speaker 2: about the Bengals, which I'm a huge fan of the
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals and the Cincinnati Reds obviously, and those are
Speaker 2: national sports assets, even though our tennis tournament is international,
Speaker 2: but those are national sports assets that are so critically
Speaker 2: important for the region. My prayer is that the Brown
Speaker 2: family in Hamilton County, which I believe owns the stadium,
Speaker 2: work out a deal and that that stadium is upgraded. Now,
Speaker 2: if you ask in general, has there been a trend
Speaker 2: in the NFL by very rich owners saying I want
Speaker 2: to control more of the pie, and as a matter
Speaker 2: of fact, I want to make the pie outside over here,
Speaker 2: and I basically own the whole pie, and I'm going
Speaker 2: to leave the taxpayers out of it. There has been
Speaker 2: a trend of doing that, and there's actually a really
Speaker 2: strong economic case for that happening, simply because when you
Speaker 2: think about it, I mean Jerry Jones, super rich guy.
Speaker 2: I've been to at and T Stadium, every thing around there.
Speaker 2: There was really nothing there, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: they started building up an entertainment complex with hotels, bars,
Speaker 2: restaurants all around the stadium, knowing that's a destination location.
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be downtown. And so he built
Speaker 2: all of those things around there on his dime, knowing
Speaker 2: he was going to make that investment back by utilizing
Speaker 2: his one big asset. So there is a model to
Speaker 2: do that. However, the pieces are not in place, in
Speaker 2: my humble opinion, for that to happen in Cincinnati, simply
Speaker 2: because you know, I hate talking about other people's financial situations,
Speaker 2: but I don't know that from reports that would the
Speaker 2: Bengals ownership group have the desire to go and spend
Speaker 2: presumably billions of dollars on creating their own entertainment and complex.
Speaker 2: Maybe they do, and good for them. Again, I don't
Speaker 2: know other people's financial certaincy sences other than what reported
Speaker 2: in the public domain. But you know, we do know
Speaker 2: that owners of other teams are worth multiple billions of
Speaker 2: dollars and them spending a billion or two billion here
Speaker 2: or there on something that they project getting their money
Speaker 2: back in a very short return on their investment. That happens,
Speaker 2: and it happens more and more, which is good for
Speaker 2: the taxpayers because the taxpayers do get a benefit from
Speaker 2: these sports stadiums. If it's a good deal, Willy, it's
Speaker 2: got to be a good deal put together by business
Speaker 2: people where both sides went, the taxpayers and the people
Speaker 2: that have risked their own free market capital and gone
Speaker 2: and invested millions and sometimes billions of dollars in these
Speaker 2: sports teams. It's got to be a mutually beneficial deal.
Speaker 1: Well, Jason Williams makes the point that it was like
Speaker 1: pulling teeth to get fifteen million dollars out of the
Speaker 1: City of Mason and Warren County put in a few
Speaker 1: million more than that, but scaling it by scale, that
Speaker 1: is a pittance compared to what is required to build
Speaker 1: an NFL stadium. And everything goes around that. And Mike
Speaker 1: Brown is about ninety years old. He still drives his
Speaker 1: Chevy Lumina. He's got that goof of the little hat
Speaker 1: that he wears. The odds him saying at the age
Speaker 1: of ninety, you know what, boys and girls, it's time
Speaker 1: for us to strike out to buy two hundred acres
Speaker 1: of land in the middle of nowhere and to build
Speaker 1: an entertainment complex and strip malls and apartment buildings over
Speaker 1: the next five to ten years. I don't think that
Speaker 1: fits Mike Brown's model. I'm not sure. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: it fits.
Speaker 2: Him right again, I could be wrong, But that is
Speaker 2: a model. Is that the model for the ownership group
Speaker 2: of the Bengals. I've got my doubts, all right.
Speaker 1: So if it stays in Cincinnati, that's a positive. I
Speaker 1: think to move an NFL franchise takes it almost an
Speaker 1: act of God. There's all kinds of requirements that you
Speaker 1: can't do it, and so it's only a matter of
Speaker 1: one hundred million here and one hundred million there. And
Speaker 1: Warren County is not scaled to produce a billion dollars
Speaker 1: of benefits to any organization coming in, including the Bengals.
Speaker 1: Is that fair to say that Warren County won't step
Speaker 1: up for a billion dollars?
Speaker 2: Listen, Willie, we take our financial position very, very seriously.
Speaker 2: We are stewards of the tax payer dollars. And I
Speaker 2: think a lot of politicians sometimes get cross when they
Speaker 2: start thinking about almost buying votes that it's you know,
Speaker 2: it's a candy store. Hey you want this. Oh wait,
Speaker 2: here's a break over here. Oh, here's a break there.
Speaker 2: It has to be a mutually beneficial relationship. And what
Speaker 2: we did with the tennis tournament was think there's a
Speaker 2: seventy five million dollars a year current economic impact to
Speaker 2: the region, and next year it's going to be close
Speaker 2: to one hundred and fifty million dollars, two hundred thousand
Speaker 2: people coming this year, four hundred thousand people attending next year,
Speaker 2: and as you said, close to seventy percent of those
Speaker 2: don't live here. And if you're Hamilton County, Claremont County,
Speaker 2: Butler County, Warren County, those people that live away from here,
Speaker 2: and I've talked to a lot of them from Chicago
Speaker 2: or New York or wherever. When they come here. Number One,
Speaker 2: they have money. They have discretionary money to come and
Speaker 2: watch this sporting event for a week at a time
Speaker 2: or two weeks at a time. They come, they stay
Speaker 2: at our hotels, they eat at our restaurants, they shop
Speaker 2: in our stores. They generate economic activity, and they pay
Speaker 2: a sales tax, and they pay workers. The companies that
Speaker 2: pay the workers pay an income tax if they live
Speaker 2: in a city. So that's what's generating this return to
Speaker 2: the taxpayers. And the study has been done that it
Speaker 2: looks like in the breakdown, just to refresh your memory,
Speaker 2: on one hundred and thirty million dollars that was invested
Speaker 2: in this tournament, fifty million from the state, fifty million
Speaker 2: essentially minus five million that was really in a sales
Speaker 2: tax incentive, So forty five million from Warren County and
Speaker 2: thirty five million from the City of Mason. That is
Speaker 2: the deal. Warren County. We're projecting to get that entire
Speaker 2: return of forty five million dollars like ten years based
Speaker 2: on the sales tax revenue that's coming in from this tournament.
Speaker 2: This was a good deal for the taxpayers. Now you
Speaker 2: flip it to a much larger scale. You know, forty
Speaker 2: fifty million dollars is a heck of a lot of
Speaker 2: money in Warren County. We've never done anything like that,
Speaker 2: but we've never had a global sports asset that was
Speaker 2: about to leave before. So we decided to step up
Speaker 2: to the plate and come up with a plan, and
Speaker 2: it was accepted by the billionaire who did risk his
Speaker 2: hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars to invest his
Speaker 2: free market capital here and wanted to partner with us
Speaker 2: and stay here. So there was an economic incentive for
Speaker 2: him to partner with us. But in terms of billions
Speaker 2: of dollars from the taxpayers of Warren County, no, absolutely not.
Speaker 1: Let's leave it at that. I'm picking Cocoa Golf to
Speaker 1: win it all. She won it last year, then won
Speaker 1: the US Open, and Alcatraz I think should win the
Speaker 1: Men's and away we go. But once again, Dave Young,
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. You're a
Speaker 1: great American. We'll do it again and thank you very much.
Speaker 1: And Dave Young, you're a great American.
Speaker 2: Thank you. God Bless you Willie and.
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