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<v Speaker 1>Billy Cunning in the Great America, Welcome to this floor.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Tuesday afternon in the Tri States the Reds Baseball,

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<v Speaker 1>they have one in a row and so in fact

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<v Speaker 1>two in a row. They won Sunday and Monday. So

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<v Speaker 1>if they win the next ten games they might be

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<v Speaker 1>back in it. They're only like three and a half

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<v Speaker 1>games out of a wildcard. They have to leap over

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen teams, but if they get there, they'll be in

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<v Speaker 1>the wildcard. And tonight Hunter Green, who I think, according

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<v Speaker 1>to David Young of Warren County, Hunter Green may be

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<v Speaker 1>related to Hunter Biden. The two have the same first name.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure that's accurate, but I want to check

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<v Speaker 1>in with David Young on the tennis tournament. So much more,

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<v Speaker 1>plus the wards of Jason Williams yesterday that talked about

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<v Speaker 1>following Jimmy Haslin to leave downtown Cleveland and go south

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<v Speaker 1>into the suburbs and build a big deal. And is

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<v Speaker 1>that possible for one of the six or seven outlying counties,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe in Boone County, Tony Bender and a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>investments get together and build a stadium for the tune

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<v Speaker 1>of two to three billion dollars and then there'll be

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<v Speaker 1>a big return on that in about thirty five years.

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<v Speaker 1>But until then, Dave Young, welcome again to the Bill

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<v Speaker 1>cunning Him Show, the tennis tournament, the Bengals moving and more.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you seen evidence of Hunter Green pitching tonight related

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<v Speaker 1>somehow to Hunter Biden?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that possible, Willie? That is an excellent topic to

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<v Speaker 2>start off with, seeing with my great allegiance and desire

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<v Speaker 2>to be a professional baseball player and my performing at

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<v Speaker 2>such a high level at Red's Fantasy Camp each and

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<v Speaker 2>every year. Yes, I thought I was going to get

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<v Speaker 2>the call up. But I will say Hunter Green is

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<v Speaker 2>a fine young man. I like him. I have met him.

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<v Speaker 2>He has earned his money through completely legal channels, and

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<v Speaker 2>he is not doing a side hustle of painting pictures

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<v Speaker 2>for big money. He is actually throwing a baseball and

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<v Speaker 2>earning his keep. So I don't know if there is

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<v Speaker 2>a direct Actually I'm sure there's not a correlation between

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<v Speaker 2>the two Hunters.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you never know, because Hunter Biden sold some of

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<v Speaker 1>his art for seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars for

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<v Speaker 1>a painting to a rich democrat who now is the

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<v Speaker 1>ambassador to Switzerland, And so I know there's no connection

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<v Speaker 1>between the seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars paid to

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<v Speaker 1>Hunter Biden to get the ambassadorship. It looks a little

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<v Speaker 1>Have you noticed that once you go into politics, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're Nancy Pelosi or if you're Mitch McConnell, even though

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<v Speaker 1>you make one hundred and sixty two thousand dollars a year,

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<v Speaker 1>which seems like a lot of money, but you live

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<v Speaker 1>in two places, you pay taxes. Taxes in Washington, DC

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<v Speaker 1>are confiscatory, that somehow there's a direct correlation between the

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<v Speaker 1>number of years you're in politics making a little no

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<v Speaker 1>money and your net worth. Is there any truth to

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<v Speaker 1>Warren County being the same way that you've gone into politics,

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<v Speaker 1>And of course you were a rich guy before you

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<v Speaker 1>went in you're a rich guy now. But have you

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<v Speaker 1>noticed in Washington, d C. That the longer you're in politics,

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<v Speaker 1>the more money you make and you build homes along

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<v Speaker 1>the Atlantic Ocean? Have you noticed that?

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<v Speaker 2>Another very interesting question, And maybe I don't understand money

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<v Speaker 2>that well, even though that's what I did for a

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<v Speaker 2>living for a long time. When it's publicly disclosed on

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<v Speaker 2>your financial documents, you're a politician, how much money you're

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<v Speaker 2>worth when you take office, you have to disclose a

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<v Speaker 2>ballpark of what that looks like. Then you make a

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<v Speaker 2>publicly disclosed salary. We the people pay you a salary

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<v Speaker 2>to do a certain job. Then, miraculously, four or eight

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<v Speaker 2>years later, you go from being worth you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>few hundred thousand dollars, maybe a couple of million bucks,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're worth thirty million, wow, or in some cases

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred million as a president when frugal work community organized.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't maybe, but you know, hey, maybe they made

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<v Speaker 2>a million bucks on a book. But man's that's an

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<v Speaker 2>unbelievably good return on your investment advisor, I guess well.

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<v Speaker 1>The Clinton's left office in twenty oh one, Hillary said

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<v Speaker 1>we're broke. Within about four or five years, they're worth

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred million dollars. The Obama's left office with little

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<v Speaker 1>or no money. They're worth a half a billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Mitch McConnell, they're Republican out of Kentucky is worth one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred million. And one of the greatest things is Nancy Pelos.

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<v Speaker 1>She's now worth, according to her estimates, two hundred to

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred million dollars, and she must be very frugal

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<v Speaker 1>with her money. And of course Joe Biden, he's buying

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<v Speaker 1>houses along the Atlantic coastline. He never made more than

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and sixty two thousand, Tili became the president

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<v Speaker 1>making four hundred thousand. He must be very frugal. He's

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<v Speaker 1>buying multi million dollar mansions on the coastline.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you got to save your money. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about something more Germane really, yeah, we got you a

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<v Speaker 1>hard stop.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in too good of a freaking mood. It's perfect weather,

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<v Speaker 2>perfect time of year, perfect stuff going on around the

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<v Speaker 2>corner at the Mason Tennis Tournament. It's unbelievable. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about tennis and then the Bengals possibly moving.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, the tennis tournament. It's underway with Ted

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<v Speaker 1>McKay and it's hot and heavy. I see that seventy percent.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know this. Seventy percent of those who attend

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<v Speaker 1>the tournament do not live in the tri States, So

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<v Speaker 1>seventy percent come from forty nine other states. They come

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<v Speaker 1>from Europe, come from Asia. Unbelievable and to keep that

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<v Speaker 1>as such a win, even though the Jokers not playing

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<v Speaker 1>Alcatraz Is? How was yesterday? How will this afternoon be?

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<v Speaker 1>How about tomorrow? When should I attend? If at all?

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<v Speaker 2>You should attend often? And it's literally unbelievable. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not exactly an emotional guy, will unless I getn't,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, talking about my kids or something. But Saturday

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<v Speaker 2>I went up there for the first time on Community Day,

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<v Speaker 2>which used to be kind of a throwaway day they

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<v Speaker 2>called the tournament. There was really nothing going on, just

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<v Speaker 2>getting the operations going. They sold seven thousand tickets plus

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<v Speaker 2>the people that were there on passes and things. There

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<v Speaker 2>was I don't know ten thousand people around that stadium

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<v Speaker 2>to watch a charity match with Agacy, Roddick and Eisner.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was literally unbelievable, Willie. I was sarr yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>Bands playing literally they they've transformed this fan area where

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<v Speaker 2>it used to be just so hot in the asphalt

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<v Speaker 2>and it was terrible. They put this fan centric philosophical

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<v Speaker 2>approach to everything out there. They've made it into like

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<v Speaker 2>a garden. There are these massive trees. I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>there where the you get landscaping trees this big. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it's all shaded out there now. It is so

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<v Speaker 2>much better. There was two different bands playing, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>like there was activity and it's great tennis to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>But there was just a lot of stuff going on

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<v Speaker 2>that was fun. All the restaurants, bars everywhere. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it was just a heck of a lot of fun

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<v Speaker 2>and people were clearly having fun yesterday at the Sensei

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<v Speaker 1>And just for fun. And next year is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be two weeks instead of one week. Once we'll stretch

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<v Speaker 1>on a seventeen days an economic engine, which brings me

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<v Speaker 1>to my next question, your friend and mine. Jason Williams

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<v Speaker 1>of the Inquiry and Here wrote a column about why

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<v Speaker 1>it would be almost impossible for the Bengals to move

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere but on the riverfront, following the lead of Jimmy Haslin,

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<v Speaker 1>who's the owner of the Brown's worth about nine billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Because he's going to put up half the money, which

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<v Speaker 1>is about one and a half billion. They're going to

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<v Speaker 1>give him two hundred and fifty acres. He's going to

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<v Speaker 1>develop it all. He's going to be the landlord for

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of apartment's, going to be the landlord for strip centers,

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<v Speaker 1>going to have condo projects and swimming pools and dancing

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<v Speaker 1>girls and dancing bears. And that's going to be twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five miles south of Cleveland, which is a good idea.

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<v Speaker 1>The closer you get to Cleveland, the more your nostrils

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<v Speaker 1>begin to flare and you smell stuff. You get out

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<v Speaker 1>of Cleveland things a little bit better. And so he

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<v Speaker 1>made the point in the inquir that the odds of

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals leaving Cincinnati downtown Cincinnati out to Warren County

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<v Speaker 1>or Claremont County or Boone County, despite the heavy investment

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<v Speaker 1>of Tony Bender and Boone County around the airport, is

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<v Speaker 1>almost non existent. Now your names come up because you're

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<v Speaker 1>the grand economic emperors area of Warren County that kept

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<v Speaker 1>the tennis tournament. You expand that King's Island all Hell's

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<v Speaker 1>break and lose great place to live from your general overlook,

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<v Speaker 1>what are the odds of the Bengals using Warren County

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<v Speaker 1>as reached to stay in Cincinnati and get a better

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<v Speaker 1>deal from Alisha Reese also known as Elisha Bridges because

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<v Speaker 1>she loves the nightlife. What are the odds.

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<v Speaker 2>Remote at best? Because here's the situation, and I like

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Williams, a lot super talented writer. I will say,

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<v Speaker 2>and I have to. As part of the victory tour

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<v Speaker 2>of keeping the tennis tournament, there was one particular Inquire

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<v Speaker 2>story written by said reporter that said, basically, I was

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<v Speaker 2>crazy and it was about to turn into the pickleball

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<v Speaker 2>mecca of the Midwest. Correct, and they were losing the

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<v Speaker 2>tennis tournament. And god, I didn't know what I was

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<v Speaker 2>talking about. And I have to a little bit say

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe other people that know what they were talking

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<v Speaker 2>about when I said it was going to stay and

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<v Speaker 2>we had a really good shot, maybe I was right.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, I digress. So I'm not living in the past.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not happy today, William. I'm moving forward. Tennis is

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<v Speaker 2>being played around the corner. It's awesome when you talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the Bengals, which I'm a huge fan of the

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati Bengals and the Cincinnati Reds obviously, and those are

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<v Speaker 2>national sports assets, even though our tennis tournament is international,

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<v Speaker 2>but those are national sports assets that are so critically

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<v Speaker 2>important for the region. My prayer is that the Brown

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<v Speaker 2>family in Hamilton County, which I believe owns the stadium,

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<v Speaker 2>work out a deal and that that stadium is upgraded. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>if you ask in general, has there been a trend

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<v Speaker 2>in the NFL by very rich owners saying I want

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<v Speaker 2>to control more of the pie, and as a matter

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<v Speaker 2>of fact, I want to make the pie outside over here,

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<v Speaker 2>and I basically own the whole pie, and I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to leave the taxpayers out of it. There has been

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<v Speaker 2>a trend of doing that, and there's actually a really

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<v Speaker 2>strong economic case for that happening, simply because when you

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<v Speaker 2>think about it, I mean Jerry Jones, super rich guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been to at and T Stadium, every thing around there.

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<v Speaker 2>There was really nothing there, and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>they started building up an entertainment complex with hotels, bars,

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<v Speaker 2>restaurants all around the stadium, knowing that's a destination location.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't have to be downtown. And so he built

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<v Speaker 2>all of those things around there on his dime, knowing

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<v Speaker 2>he was going to make that investment back by utilizing

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<v Speaker 2>his one big asset. So there is a model to

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<v Speaker 2>do that. However, the pieces are not in place, in

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<v Speaker 2>my humble opinion, for that to happen in Cincinnati, simply

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, I hate talking about other people's financial situations,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't know that from reports that would the

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<v Speaker 2>Bengals ownership group have the desire to go and spend

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<v Speaker 2>presumably billions of dollars on creating their own entertainment and complex.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they do, and good for them. Again, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know other people's financial certaincy sences other than what reported

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<v Speaker 2>in the public domain. But you know, we do know

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<v Speaker 2>that owners of other teams are worth multiple billions of

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<v Speaker 2>dollars and them spending a billion or two billion here

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<v Speaker 2>or there on something that they project getting their money

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<v Speaker 2>back in a very short return on their investment. That happens,

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<v Speaker 2>and it happens more and more, which is good for

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<v Speaker 2>the taxpayers because the taxpayers do get a benefit from

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<v Speaker 2>these sports stadiums. If it's a good deal, Willy, it's

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<v Speaker 2>got to be a good deal put together by business

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<v Speaker 2>people where both sides went, the taxpayers and the people

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<v Speaker 2>that have risked their own free market capital and gone

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<v Speaker 2>and invested millions and sometimes billions of dollars in these

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<v Speaker 2>sports teams. It's got to be a mutually beneficial deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Jason Williams makes the point that it was like

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<v Speaker 1>pulling teeth to get fifteen million dollars out of the

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<v Speaker 1>City of Mason and Warren County put in a few

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<v Speaker 1>million more than that, but scaling it by scale, that

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<v Speaker 1>is a pittance compared to what is required to build

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<v Speaker 1>an NFL stadium. And everything goes around that. And Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Brown is about ninety years old. He still drives his

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<v Speaker 1>Chevy Lumina. He's got that goof of the little hat

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<v Speaker 1>that he wears. The odds him saying at the age

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<v Speaker 1>of ninety, you know what, boys and girls, it's time

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<v Speaker 1>for us to strike out to buy two hundred acres

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<v Speaker 1>of land in the middle of nowhere and to build

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<v Speaker 1>an entertainment complex and strip malls and apartment buildings over

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<v Speaker 1>the next five to ten years. I don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>fits Mike Brown's model. I'm not sure. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>it fits.

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<v Speaker 2>Him right again, I could be wrong, But that is

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<v Speaker 2>a model. Is that the model for the ownership group

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<v Speaker 2>of the Bengals. I've got my doubts, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So if it stays in Cincinnati, that's a positive. I

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<v Speaker 1>think to move an NFL franchise takes it almost an

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<v Speaker 1>act of God. There's all kinds of requirements that you

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<v Speaker 1>can't do it, and so it's only a matter of

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred million here and one hundred million there. And

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<v Speaker 1>Warren County is not scaled to produce a billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>of benefits to any organization coming in, including the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that fair to say that Warren County won't step

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, Willie, we take our financial position very, very seriously.

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<v Speaker 2>We are stewards of the tax payer dollars. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think a lot of politicians sometimes get cross when they

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<v Speaker 2>start thinking about almost buying votes that it's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a candy store. Hey you want this. Oh wait,

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<v Speaker 2>here's a break over here. Oh, here's a break there.

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<v Speaker 2>It has to be a mutually beneficial relationship. And what

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<v Speaker 2>we did with the tennis tournament was think there's a

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<v Speaker 2>seventy five million dollars a year current economic impact to

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<v Speaker 2>the region, and next year it's going to be close

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<v Speaker 2>to one hundred and fifty million dollars, two hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 2>people coming this year, four hundred thousand people attending next year,

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<v Speaker 2>and as you said, close to seventy percent of those

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<v Speaker 2>don't live here. And if you're Hamilton County, Claremont County,

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<v Speaker 2>Butler County, Warren County, those people that live away from here,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've talked to a lot of them from Chicago

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<v Speaker 2>or New York or wherever. When they come here. Number One,

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<v Speaker 2>they have money. They have discretionary money to come and

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<v Speaker 2>watch this sporting event for a week at a time

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<v Speaker 2>or two weeks at a time. They come, they stay

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<v Speaker 2>at our hotels, they eat at our restaurants, they shop

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<v Speaker 2>in our stores. They generate economic activity, and they pay

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<v Speaker 2>a sales tax, and they pay workers. The companies that

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<v Speaker 2>pay the workers pay an income tax if they live

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<v Speaker 2>in a city. So that's what's generating this return to

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<v Speaker 2>the taxpayers. And the study has been done that it

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<v Speaker 2>looks like in the breakdown, just to refresh your memory,

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<v Speaker 2>on one hundred and thirty million dollars that was invested

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<v Speaker 2>in this tournament, fifty million from the state, fifty million

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<v Speaker 2>essentially minus five million that was really in a sales

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<v Speaker 2>tax incentive, So forty five million from Warren County and

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five million from the City of Mason. That is

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<v Speaker 2>the deal. Warren County. We're projecting to get that entire

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<v Speaker 2>return of forty five million dollars like ten years based

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<v Speaker 2>on the sales tax revenue that's coming in from this tournament.

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<v Speaker 2>This was a good deal for the taxpayers. Now you

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<v Speaker 2>flip it to a much larger scale. You know, forty

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<v Speaker 2>fifty million dollars is a heck of a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>money in Warren County. We've never done anything like that,

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<v Speaker 2>but we've never had a global sports asset that was

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<v Speaker 2>about to leave before. So we decided to step up

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<v Speaker 2>to the plate and come up with a plan, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was accepted by the billionaire who did risk his

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<v Speaker 2>hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars to invest his

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<v Speaker 2>free market capital here and wanted to partner with us

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<v Speaker 2>and stay here. So there was an economic incentive for

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<v Speaker 2>him to partner with us. But in terms of billions

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<v Speaker 2>of dollars from the taxpayers of Warren County, no, absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's leave it at that. I'm picking Cocoa Golf to

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<v Speaker 1>win it all. She won it last year, then won

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<v Speaker 1>the US Open, and Alcatraz I think should win the

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<v Speaker 1>Men's and away we go. But once again, Dave Young,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. You're a

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<v Speaker 1>great American. We'll do it again and thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>And Dave Young, you're a great American.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. God Bless you Willie and.

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<v Speaker 1>God bless America. Coming up next to news and more

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