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<v Speaker 1>Oh hi, it's that French fry that fell under the

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<v Speaker 1>Ali Ward back with another episode of smologies or small ologies.

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<v Speaker 1>Get it small ologies. So this is our six somologies episode,

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're looking for any of the previous smologies

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<v Speaker 1>you'll find them in this feed or at Alleyward dot

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<v Speaker 1>com slash smologies. But what is asmology? There's a great question.

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<v Speaker 1>So smologies are quicker, kid and work and in law

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<v Speaker 1>and classroom friendly edits of our full ologies episodes and

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<v Speaker 1>they clock in around twenty minutes, so all the good stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but with less of a commitment. It's perfect for those

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<v Speaker 1>of you that are returning to the office and have

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<v Speaker 1>a short commute. Maybe you're on a holiday road trip

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<v Speaker 1>and you need something to keep the whole family occupied.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of holidays, November twenty third, this Tuesday is wolf

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<v Speaker 1>in neut What you have not heard of? Wolfanut? You

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<v Speaker 1>haven't heard of it? Really, then you haven't listened to

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<v Speaker 1>the longer full version of Lupinology. So I'll summarize. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's a holiday started by a seven year old to

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate canines and kindness. It's when the spirit of the

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<v Speaker 1>wolf brings and hides small gifts around the house for everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>and people who have had, or have or are kind

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<v Speaker 1>to dogs get better gifts than anyone else. You eat

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<v Speaker 1>roasted meat or vegetables and a cake decorated like a

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<v Speaker 1>full moon. So in twenty nineteen I had a wolf

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<v Speaker 1>neut party and I hid gift rep socks around the house.

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<v Speaker 1>It was lit. It was the best ten out of ten.

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<v Speaker 1>Ho Okay, So today's episode is on Upanology, or the

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<v Speaker 1>study of wolves and the word comes from the Latin lupis,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning wolf. But if you ask loupinologists what their job

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<v Speaker 1>title is, they will probably refer to themselves as a

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<v Speaker 1>wolf biologist. But let's be honest, lupinologist, this sounds way

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<v Speaker 1>way cooler, much more regal. So today's lupinologist is an

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<v Speaker 1>associate professor of evolutionary genomics and epigenetics at Princeton University,

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<v Speaker 1>where she runs the von Holt Lab of Ecology and

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<v Speaker 1>Evolutionary Biology. She got her bachelor's degree in psychology from

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<v Speaker 1>Eckard University, her masters from NYU in biology, and got

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<v Speaker 1>her PhD, making her a doctor from the University of California,

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles in ecology and evolutionary biology. And she guided

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<v Speaker 1>us through the incredible world of wolves, including what makes

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<v Speaker 1>a wolf a wolf? Wolfy DNA, is there a connection

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<v Speaker 1>between wolves and howling at the moon, the realities of

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<v Speaker 1>pack dynamics, how they hunt, the idea of a lone wolf,

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<v Speaker 1>and how dogs, coyotes, jackals, hyenas and wolf wolves are

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<v Speaker 1>all related. So Circle November twenty third, dream up a

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<v Speaker 1>full mooncake and prepare to celebrate wolf nut as we

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<v Speaker 1>duck into the wolf's den and welcome wolf biologist and lupinologist,

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Bridget von Holtz. And yes, that was my dog

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<v Speaker 1>shaking her collar in the background. O Gby. She loves

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<v Speaker 1>this episode. God ology, What is a wolf? What's the

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<v Speaker 1>difference between a wolf and a coyote and a big

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<v Speaker 1>fox and a domestic dog? Genetically speaking?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, okay, genetically well, so all of these animals are

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<v Speaker 3>are carnivores. They're in carnivora, and that means that there's

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<v Speaker 3>a defining feature to be a carnivor. And this is

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<v Speaker 3>usually talking about skeletal shape and cranial shape and teeth morphology.

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<v Speaker 3>So to eat meat, you have to have certain physiology,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to have certain tea structure to cut and

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<v Speaker 3>share that meat. There's usually some old faction and visual

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<v Speaker 3>sense in terms of being a predator that eats has

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<v Speaker 3>a meat based diet. Within carnivora, we're going to focus

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<v Speaker 3>on more of the canine related families and species Foxes, coyotes,

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<v Speaker 3>doglike species. They do have common ancestors, so they do

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<v Speaker 3>arise from this ancestral carnivore. The ecology that has shaped

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<v Speaker 3>each of these lineages, their diet, their social nature, all

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<v Speaker 3>of this variation.

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<v Speaker 4>Is quite incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>So wolves, broadly speaking, live across much of the northern

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<v Speaker 3>parts of all of the continents. This is called a

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<v Speaker 3>whole Arctic distribution. We usually find the in temperate or

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<v Speaker 3>much more higher latitudes. Coyotes are a North American evolved

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<v Speaker 3>canine species, so you only find coyotes in North America.

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<v Speaker 3>Jackals are also the Eurasian version, basically that we don't

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<v Speaker 3>have jackals that evolved in North America. They are both

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit smaller typically than a gray wolf. They

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<v Speaker 3>live in a very different type of ecology, So if

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<v Speaker 3>we focus on North America, which is the continent, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>Better at coyotes and wolves.

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<v Speaker 3>Though they both live on this continent, they do essentially

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<v Speaker 3>segregate out based on habitat and the presence of the other.

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<v Speaker 3>Coyotes don't typically live in a pack structure, although they

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<v Speaker 3>have been known to form packs over the course of

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<v Speaker 3>their evolution, but typically coyotes mate as a pair and

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<v Speaker 3>don't really form any larger groups than that have a

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<v Speaker 3>much larger group, they will predate on much larger species,

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<v Speaker 3>and they competitively take larger prey, whereas coyote might come

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<v Speaker 3>up and then try to steal whatever prey or carcass

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<v Speaker 3>items are left from a wolf, and that's where conflict

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<v Speaker 4>Happen like go on my angle.

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<v Speaker 3>And wolves are known to kill coyote. Alternatively, coyotes can

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<v Speaker 3>gang up and kill wolves, especially if it's injured or

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<v Speaker 3>malnourished or young, So there is competition between those two species.

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<v Speaker 1>So wolves, coyotes, jackals, foxes, and dogs share a common ancestry,

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<v Speaker 1>diverging many millions of years ago. But this is lupinology,

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<v Speaker 1>not jackology. So back to wolves and how big is

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<v Speaker 1>a wolf? What kind of dog size would you compare

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<v Speaker 3>Well, actually, malamutes can be much larger than wolves, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen malamutes well over one hundred and twenty pounds

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<v Speaker 3>and wolves wolves can be very close to that size,

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<v Speaker 3>but generally you can get them anywhere from eighty pounds

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<v Speaker 3>upwards to.

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<v Speaker 4>One hundred one hundred and twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>So dogs can be larger than wolves, but also we've

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<v Speaker 3>bred them to be incredibly large, and maybe their diets

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<v Speaker 3>have something to do with it whether or not they're larger.

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<v Speaker 3>But wolves are pretty substantial creatures.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so how many species of wolves are They're all

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<v Speaker 1>over the world. I had no idea, like a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>species I don't know, and I thought i'd get a

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<v Speaker 1>clean answer. But a holy moly, is it herky? Jerky

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<v Speaker 1>and murky. So if you like drama, you will love wolves. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>So I rolled up my yellow sweater sleeves and I

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<v Speaker 4>Did you know this?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, first, let's just be be back this puppy up.

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<v Speaker 1>So the genus Canus includes jackals and coyotes, and wolves

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<v Speaker 1>and doggos and dingoes and even the dire wolf, which

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<v Speaker 1>has been extinct for roughly ten thousand years. Don't let

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<v Speaker 1>George R. R. Martin plenty wool over your eyes. Dire wolf

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<v Speaker 1>two words as a real animal, an extinct dire wolf

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<v Speaker 1>one word Game of Thrones fiction. Okay, So, the alive

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<v Speaker 1>species of wolf on the planet include the African golden wolf,

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<v Speaker 1>the Ethiopian wolf, and in North America and across Eurasia

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<v Speaker 1>Canus lupus. Now America, studies have shown we gout one

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<v Speaker 1>wolf Canis lupus, the gray wolf, plus a bunch of subspecies.

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<v Speaker 1>So the timberwolf, that's a gray wolf, Arctic wolf, gray wolf,

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<v Speaker 1>Mexican wolf, this gray wolf, the extinct Oregonian brown wolf

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<v Speaker 1>that's a gray wolf, the buffalo wolf or loafer wolf,

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<v Speaker 1>which was hunted to extinction nineteen twenty six. It's also

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<v Speaker 1>Canis lupus that's a grey wolf. Okay, there's also a

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<v Speaker 1>red wolf in the Carolinas. And here is where wolf

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<v Speaker 1>experts throw down. So there is a ton of debate

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<v Speaker 1>that's gone on for decades and decades about if the

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<v Speaker 1>smaller ruddy wolf of the American southeast is its own

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<v Speaker 1>species and thus protected, or a hybrid of a gray

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<v Speaker 1>wolf in a coyote and thus should be vulnerable to

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<v Speaker 1>more hunting. As it stands in twenty nineteen, it's endangered,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's protected and is considered its own species. But

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<v Speaker 1>many scientists are like, ugh is it though a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of DNA says it's a hybrid. So there you have it.

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<v Speaker 4>Three and half.

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<v Speaker 1>Ish species of wolves, and in North America the gray

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<v Speaker 1>wolf is endemic, meaning it is native here. So now

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<v Speaker 1>let's move on to how wolves relate to one another.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk family dynamics first.

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<v Speaker 3>So if we back up, we have this expectation that

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<v Speaker 3>wolves travel in family groups, or at least groups of relatives,

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<v Speaker 3>and the success of a particular individual is highly dependent

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<v Speaker 3>upon having group members with it, so pack members. Most

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<v Speaker 3>of the livelihood of wolves depends upon multiple individuals coordinated

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<v Speaker 3>in their social hunting and also cooperative raising of young

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<v Speaker 4>Caring for each other.

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<v Speaker 3>So the goal was to identify some source populations in

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<v Speaker 3>Canada and capture live capture a handful of individuals so

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<v Speaker 3>we potentially maintain this pack cohesion. Where upon release somewhere,

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<v Speaker 3>these animals still maintain their group structure, still potentially had

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<v Speaker 3>higher success as a group than you would find if

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<v Speaker 3>you released one wolf somewhere on its own in the

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<v Speaker 3>middle of a brand new place. How long do wolves live,

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<v Speaker 3>So in captivity they can live quite a while in

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<v Speaker 3>this little posh luxury element of being given food and

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<v Speaker 3>the safety in Yellowstone, there's usually a mortality rate at

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<v Speaker 3>about four and a half years. That two to four

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<v Speaker 3>and a half is an average lifespan, depending upon again

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<v Speaker 3>what's the cause of mortality. There's a lot of intra

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<v Speaker 3>specific mortality, which means that wolves kill other wolves, So

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<v Speaker 3>whether it's territorial disputes or some other event.

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<v Speaker 4>Wolves are absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>Known for having battles that end in the mortality of

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<v Speaker 3>conspecifics ps.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the finest people on the planet don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what conspecific means and how to google it just now,

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<v Speaker 1>and it means animals or plants belonging to the same species.

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<v Speaker 3>But they also get yeah, right. They are very social creatures.

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<v Speaker 3>They maintain territories, and even though there is recognition of relatives,

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<v Speaker 3>there are debates about how do you acquire new territory,

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<v Speaker 3>or if you're a disperser and you need to find

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<v Speaker 3>a mate and you need to have a new home

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<v Speaker 3>range because you're going to have a litter, how do

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<v Speaker 3>you acquire that new space and those resources to support that,

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<v Speaker 3>especially in a landscape maybe that's saturated with other wolf

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<v Speaker 3>populations already. So this battle usually does result in a

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<v Speaker 3>give and take of boundaries, and there's expansion or shrinking

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<v Speaker 3>of home ranges, and then there's usually conflict either around

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<v Speaker 3>resources or territory usage.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of wolf drama.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of wolf drama, we have to talk about wolf packs.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to from memes allegedly identifying different roles within

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<v Speaker 1>the pack to the often cited alpha males. People are

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<v Speaker 1>obsessed with wolf pack dynamics what exactly is a pack dynamic? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there an alpha? Is there a beta? Do they

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<v Speaker 1>take care of the elderly wolves if they make it

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<v Speaker 1>that long? What is that little pot like?

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<v Speaker 3>are lots of structures in variation to that pack structure.

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<v Speaker 1>Wolf the Family Pack Drama confirmed so many possibilities based

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<v Speaker 1>on any number of factors. Okay, but what about the

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<v Speaker 1>connection between the canine in the moonlit tundra and the

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<v Speaker 1>one snoring on your lap. When it comes to domestic

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<v Speaker 4>So a lot of the work that's been.

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<v Speaker 3>Done to understand the genetics behind why dogs are so

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<v Speaker 1>So they are just as similar as we suspected. But

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<v Speaker 1>domestication has had a huge impact on how dogs look

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<v Speaker 1>and act and continue to evolve. So maybe in ten

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<v Speaker 1>fuzzier ears. In my opinion, don't mess with perfection. They're

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<v Speaker 1>Express onto your Patreon questions and as always you brought

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<v Speaker 1>it and by it I mean great questions Bath but

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<v Speaker 1>the art in Anakin Geniak both asked about lone wolves.

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<v Speaker 1>Are there any theories about why some wolves become loners.

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<v Speaker 3>There are certainly many times in a wolf's life where

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<v Speaker 3>they will absolutely choose to venture out on their own,

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<v Speaker 3>and that could be the random sighting that you're kind

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<v Speaker 3>of catching a wolf in mid dispersal, or there's also

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<v Speaker 3>that wolf packs only exist as packs seasonally.

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<v Speaker 4>No way so in winter, when prey is usually a

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<v Speaker 3>In the winter when they pack up and in the

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<v Speaker 4>They're often not in packs, so.

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<v Speaker 3>You might see wolves on their own because they're just

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<v Speaker 3>out hanging out doing their wolfy thing. They rendezvous with

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<v Speaker 3>each other periodically, but wolves are often for a good

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<v Speaker 3>half of the year and temperate zones on their own,

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<v Speaker 3>so lone wolves lone wolves absolutely exist. They might be

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<v Speaker 3>out in pairs hanging out with their favorite buddy or someone,

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<v Speaker 1>But the notion of an alpha male as we think

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<v Speaker 1>of them in concer terms, like a CEO overseeing a

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<v Speaker 1>Meach did report seeing some dominance behaviors, and in his

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<v Speaker 1>twenty ten paper titled Prolonged Intensive Dominance Behavior between gray

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<v Speaker 1>So science means always asking new questions and collecting more

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<v Speaker 1>information and then learning new things by analyzing it and

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<v Speaker 1>the myth of the alpha male is simply that. But

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<v Speaker 1>let's go back to more of your questions, Sally about

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<v Speaker 1>wolf and dog genetics. Sarah ger asked, my neighbor claims

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<v Speaker 1>the offspring of a domestic canine who mate it with

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<v Speaker 4>Both both are probably true? Okay, I mean both are both.

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<v Speaker 4>The first one is certainly true.

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<v Speaker 3>Dogs and wolves can absolutely reproduce, no question about it.

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<v Speaker 3>The feasibility of her dog or her dog's parent coming

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<v Speaker 3>across a wolf. I don't know if this is a

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<v Speaker 3>captive environment, if someone's breeding dog wolf hybrids, which is

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<v Speaker 3>highly possible, or if they live somewhere rural enough where

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<v Speaker 4>Is running around and decided to reproduce it.

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<v Speaker 3>Both are possible, but offspring in that cross is absolutely viable.

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<v Speaker 1>A ton of people Natalie Mastik, Lauren Dean, Christina Weaver,

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<v Speaker 1>had questions. Do wolves care about the moon? Do they

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<v Speaker 1>howl at the moon? Do they like the moon? Just

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<v Speaker 1>the moon affect their behavior? What is it with wolves

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<v Speaker 4>That's yeah, I see why that's a question.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, wolves howl all the time regardless of what the

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<v Speaker 3>moon is doing, so I don't know of having the

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<v Speaker 3>of the night, the dawn and dusk era will have

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<v Speaker 3>put perhaps more light than normal, which might make hunting

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<v Speaker 3>or movement a little more interesting, and maybe there's more activity.

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<v Speaker 3>So maybe there's more howling because there's more action. But

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<v Speaker 3>I I this is just me speculating. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if anything that ever talks about having to basically control

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<v Speaker 3>for if there's moonlight or not on understanding a wolf's behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>So mystical wolf moon connections are flume flam, but wolve's

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<v Speaker 1>communication devices aka songs sung from their boob bable snoots

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<v Speaker 1>have a range of up to ten miles and it

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<v Speaker 1>helps get the pack back together or intimidate others not

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<v Speaker 1>in their click. So essentially they're saying I'm lonely or

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<v Speaker 1>get away from me, you scare me and I hate you?

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<v Speaker 1>And what about encounter? Citie Newman, Mariko Shin, Carrie, Isabel

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<v Speaker 1>be Hoper, and a few people asked what should I

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<v Speaker 1>or backpacking.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, it's not very different from bear gear.

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<v Speaker 3>I would have bells and whistles on my shoes and

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<v Speaker 3>backpack and blowing some one of these survival whistles will

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<v Speaker 3>just pretty much deter an animal who already doesn't really

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<v Speaker 3>want to interact with you. Okaybye, Okay, Yeah, having pepper

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<v Speaker 3>spray is never a bad thing, so I would just,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, probably turn and walk the other way or

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<v Speaker 3>back up. They're a little bit different, not quite like bear.

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<v Speaker 3>So usually a wolf is already going to see you

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<v Speaker 3>much long before you've ever seen it. So I would

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<v Speaker 3>be surprised if you happen to surprise a wolf, although

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<v Speaker 4>It can happen. It's not anything I've ever worried about.

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<v Speaker 1>Solid advice that I hope you never have to use. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>if you love wolves as much as I do, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure you're asking yourself what can we do to help

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<v Speaker 1>these delightful, fluffy loyal, smart creatures. Who do I call,

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<v Speaker 1>And a bunch of people wanted to know what can

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<v Speaker 1>especially red wolves. Dakota Harriman asked.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think any well, email, email your or send

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<v Speaker 3>a letter to your congressman or congresswoman, your local government.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that there are many agencies that are pro

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<v Speaker 3>or there's a there's red wolf foundations in many locations.

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<v Speaker 3>You can donate money, you can donate services.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so there are plenty of really great organizations, some

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<v Speaker 1>that even work with indigenous folks to protect the gray wolf,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a sacred animal to many cultures. So maybe

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I always want to know what makes our

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<v Speaker 3>just it's amazing. Every so often, you know, you have

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<v Speaker 3>those rough days, and you're like, what else could I do?

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<v Speaker 3>Like nothing, I would never want to do anything else.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't imagine whatever a normal job would look like.

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<v Speaker 3>I get to sit and research something that's invisible, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Like we can't see DNA, we can't see evolution tangibly

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<v Speaker 3>from three million years ago. And yet we press some

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<v Speaker 3>buttons in our computer and some really lovely evolutionary theory,

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<v Speaker 3>and we we've exposed what our history looks like, and

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<v Speaker 3>we can understand more about something we can never possibly observe.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that's just so incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, so many cool things about wolves. Lupnology truly fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>November twenty third Wolf Note celebrated. So these dog sized

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<v Speaker 1>icons of the outdoors are so amazing, their societies are

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<v Speaker 1>so complex. So to recap what we learned dogs descended

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<v Speaker 1>from wolves. That there are only three species of wolves

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<v Speaker 1>Canis lupus, the gray wolf, the African golden wolf, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Ethiopian wolf, but plenty of subspecies that are still

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<v Speaker 1>being debated. That there isn't a known correlation between the

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<v Speaker 1>moon and their howl, and that wolves really only travel

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<v Speaker 1>in pacts during the winter. The myth of the alpha

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<v Speaker 1>male is just that myth, and yes it's possible that

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<v Speaker 1>your friend might have a dog wolf hybrid. So to

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<v Speaker 1>find out more about doctor Bridget Bonholt, you can check

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<v Speaker 1>out her website, which is von Holt dot Princeton dot edu,

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<v Speaker 1>where you can stay up to date on all of

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<v Speaker 1>her current research. And if you liked this episode and

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<v Speaker 1>want to listen to the full Ologies episode, complete with

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<v Speaker 1>maybe some saucy language and a side of innuendo, you

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<v Speaker 1>can find the entire adult friendly Ologies catalog at aliword

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<v Speaker 1>dot com slash ologies, including a full lupinology episode that

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<v Speaker 1>this was cut from. Thank you to biologist and lupinologist,

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Bridget Bonholt, and thank you new Smologites. I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>glad you're here. New episodes are out every two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>or so for you, and there's a full list of

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<v Speaker 1>credits for this episode at aliward dot com slash smologies.

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<v Speaker 1>Since we like to keep things shortened small around here,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you listen to the end of the episode,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I give you a piece of advice, and

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<v Speaker 1>this week it's that I know making your bed doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>sound very fun, but when you come home and your

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<v Speaker 1>bed is made and it looks nice. You're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is such a treat for myself. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>make your bed in the morning, think ah, I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>this for myself. Later at night, don't think about doing

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<v Speaker 1>it for your parents. Think about having a nice made

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<v Speaker 1>bed when you get home. It's such a treat. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been doing that since I was about thirteen. I

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<v Speaker 1>make my bed every day. It's just nice. When I

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<v Speaker 1>get home, I say hey, thanks me from this morning anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>until next time. Smologize bye bye ology, spology, god.

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<v Speaker 4>Hoology its Polish hologiolog
