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Speaker 1: He's gonna play without an Ace in his death. Hi, Curly,

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I'm the trap player. No, actually, I'm the plumber. I

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was even right about me. I'm gonna go to space,

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bad Space bad Oh crack no face is back, Carly.

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Speaker 2: Well, here we are. It is twelve nineteen am. It

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is Friday morning, Thursday night, and we obviously have all

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heard the news. I heard early this after actually early

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this morning. Obviously couldn't say anything publicly until the official

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announcement came this afternoon. But uh, Ace is gone, and man,

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this is uh this is a tough one. Obviously I

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didn't know Ace. I met him a couple of times,

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but dude changed my entire life. Obviously different intro. That's

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the intro for Act, my Ace Fairly tribute band that

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I've been doing since twenty and thirteen. I figured it

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was fitting and in the words of my close personal friends,

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don't go see Austin crack one for the space man.

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I'm sorry, I'm numb. I'm numb. You didn't. I always say,

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it's like when a musician dies, an actor dies, a

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comedian dies, somebody that's famous dies, It's well, why are

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you getting ripped up about it. You didn't know them,

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they weren't your friends. But sometimes it's just on a

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level that influences your whole life. Keith Robert Warr my

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guitar player here in Vegas in the Act in the

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act version, Vegas version of Act. Sorry, I'm just he

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made the great statement, if there was no Ace, there's

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no us, and that you don't realize how true that

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statement is, how deep that statement is. Think about it.

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If there's no Ace, there's no us, and that just

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goes to show the impact that Ace and Kiss had

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have had had had Jesus Christ. I can't talk. I

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guess I'm doing a shot of whiskey cheers. The impact

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that band has had on our lives. Would I have

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picked up a guitar if it wasn't for Ace Freely, Probably,

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but it would be a lot different. I say that

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there's there's two reasons I picked up a guitar. It

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was Ace Freely and the Johnny b Good scene from

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Back to the Future. But the statement without Ace, there's

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no Us runs so deep because the impact that that

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band has had on my life, that Ace Frehley has

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had on my life, the people that I have met,

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the friends that I have that. I'm lucky to have

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all of them, no matter who they are. Who knows

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if our crafts, if our paths would have crossed, if

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it was not for Kiss. And he's freely Yes, rock

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and roll brings people together, but there is a bond

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because of Kiss, that whole kiss army thing. It's so true,

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Zeus said on made a joke on Shout Out Loud cast.

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I'm a kiss TRD and I'm pretty damn proud of it. Well,

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he's damn right, he's spot on. I am a kiss

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hard and I am proud of it because without that band,

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who knows what I would have done with my life.

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Who knows what would have been? Who knows where I

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would be without the influence of Ace Frehley, And without

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the influence of Kiss, I don't even know. Maybe I

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wouldn't have started to get into bands, Maybe I wouldn't

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have got into radio. Maybe I wouldn't have followed this

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path at all. And yes, I sound narcissistic talking about myself,

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but this is blanket This is a blanket statement. This

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is a blanket revelation the impact that Ace Frehley had

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on my life. I might be married with four kids,

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still in Sant Cloud, Minnesota, working some office job, owning

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a business, being successful, not begging for money on the internet.

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Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh you know what I got

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that pulled up. Let's put that in Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

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thank you, Pat Fontaine. It it's that's one of the

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reasons that I'm so numb. You know, we always talk

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about or you know, kiss us kiss fans. He was like,

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we didn't. We always speculate, well, which one, which one

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is going to go first, Not that we want any

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of them to go, but we know it's going to

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be inevitable. And obviously it is because Ace Frehley is gone.

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Ace Frehley has risen to Gendell. He's gone home to Gendell.

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I'm glad I didn't do this earlier. I heard this morning,

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and you know, talking to some of my industry friends

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and you know, hearing that it was confirmed and not

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being able to say anything because you don't want to

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be that guy that that says it before before it's

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officially announced. I posted pictures, but you know, praying for

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the best, you know, praying for good news because we

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had all heard the rumors. The rumors were obviously out

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there you know, a so called journalist posted a cryptic

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thing that basically was saying rest in p s as

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without saying it before there was an official announcement. And

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that's bad. That's not good. You're not a fucking journalist

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if you do that, because you know better if you're

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a journalist quote unquote fucking journalist. I am a journalist.

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I was a journalist. I was a rock writer. I

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was a DJ radio DJ. Not that might be the

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greatest beat I've ever created, out created. You gotta be smart.

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You can't jump the gun. You can't. I get it.

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You want to be the first, you want to get

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the headlines. There's no reason for that. You want to

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be a fucking pro be a pro. That shit pisses

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me off. My kiss story, I'm gonna jump all over

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the place. I'll get back to my where the funk

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would I be? And I this is not gonna be

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a long episode. You guys don't need to hear me

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blabber on about Ace Frehley for three hours. I mean

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I could, but I won't. And at the end of

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this show, I'm going to play my interview. That one

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time I got to interview Ace was when I was

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doing mornings on the Monsters of Rock Radio on the

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Dash Radio network, which is now something else. But Harlan

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had me doing mornings, and I did like an actual

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morning show. It wasn't just liner jock bullshit. I did

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as much as a morning show that they would let me,

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and I would definitely push the limits. You ever heard it,

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you know exactly what I'm talking about. If you didn't,

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well you missed it. I was actually pretty fucking good,

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if I don't say so myself. But I was able

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to interview Ace. I don't even know what year it was.

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Whatever year I was doing was at twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,

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something like that. I know it wasn't COVID yet, but

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those dark COVID times that we like to forget, or

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try to forget at least. But I got to interview Ace,

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and I remember that day. I wasn't sure he was

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supposed to just call my Google voice number, but for

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some fucking reason, my computer was not acting correctly. It's like,

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you know what, let's do this at the studio. I

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got the studio time and Ace was running late because

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he it was a you know, the radio junket that

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he had so he was running late and I could

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have went longer, but there was people that had the

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studio booked for after me, and I'm not an ass.

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I'm not going to keep people waiting. But on the

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other hand, I've got my hero, a rock and roll

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Hall of Famer, the guitar player that has influenced my life,

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on the phone doing an interview, and I'm like, I'm

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trying to wrap it up. I don't want to wrap

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it up. And at one point of the interview, which

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you hear, he says, is he they're trying to get

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rid of me? Like, no, it wasn't my fault. I

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could have went at least another ten fifteen minutes with him,

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but no, I think it was. That was his last

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interview of the day, so I had more time. It's like, fuck,

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that was the one time. That was the one time

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I had a chance to interview Ace, and it was

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a radio interview, so it was it had to be

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like a radio style interview. It couldn't, I got I wish,

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I wish I could have sat face to face with

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him and done it like an actual interview. Oh, but

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I am thankful that I had those eighteen minutes with

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my heros freely, and yeah, I met him a couple

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of times. It was just meet and quick meet and

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greet things and it was fine. I mean it was great.

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It's fucking ace, you know. Did the picture. The second

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time was that Creature's Fast and he signed my solo

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album poster. The only one I have left to get

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is Paul. So maybe, maybe, just maybe, just maybe I

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can finally get that in November. We'll see, I don't know,

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praying to the Kiss gods that that can happen, because

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then I can get all four and I get them

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framed together. I since I moved into this apartment, I've

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left the spot over my TV open in the living

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room so I can hang those up, but they all

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have to be autographed. The last one I need is Paul.

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It is such a weird thing that a band can

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just bring people together, and it would Kiss. It was

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more than just the music it was. I think with Kiss,

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it was the right time.

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Speaker 1: There was.

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Speaker 2: That time in the seventies when they broke and being young,

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impressionable children, we were just intrigued by the look, intrigued

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by the mistique, intrigued by what they were doing, and

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then just so it happens that the music was fucking

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awesome on top of it, we got hooked. It was

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it was the seventies Beatlemania, it was the seventies Elvis.

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We got hooked. And because of because of that getting

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hooked at such a young age, we now have that camaraderie.

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We now have that feeling, We now have that bond.

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The packed the Kiss has had on my life is irreplaceable.

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You don't have that bond and camaraderie with the Bay

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City fucking Rollers. Yeah, we all love a lot of

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the same bands, but there's something just different about Kiss.

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Without Ace, there is no Us, and that is so

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goddamn true. Without Ace, I would have no Ace Faily

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Tribute band. I would not be playing with these great

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musicians that I am lucky enough to play with. I

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might not even know them. We might have never cried paths.

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This whole world that I am in, I might not

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be anywhere near if it was not for Kiss, and

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if it was not for Ace fucking Freely. People can

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shit on his guitar playing all they want, but he

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is a rock god. He is a rock iconomy That

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word gets thrown around a lot, but with Ace it

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is true, that band influenced so many musicians. Ace Freeley

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influenced so many guitar players. They don't play like him,

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But if it wasn't for Ace, who knows what they

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would play like. Who knows if they would be where

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they are? Who knows if they would be in the

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circles that we're in. It's so fucking weird. It's like

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the butterfly effect. You kill one butterfly and that can

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change the future. Thinking about a life with out kiss

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and without as Freely, I don't fucking know. I mean

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my youngest memories Christmas nineteen seventy six, getting Destroyer. We

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lived in a trailer park. I remember then, you know.

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Then a year later, our neighbors were having I fucking

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remember how I remember this shit, I don't know. A

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year later, our neighbors were having a barbecue and one

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of the guys had fucking Rock and Roll over and

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I remember just staring at that record. Then the solo albums,

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which was weird because my mom got me the solo records,

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but she got me Jean, Paul and Peter. She never

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got me the Ace one, probably because it was sold out,

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because that's the only one that really sold. I have

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my mom to think this is the uh all sandwiches aside, kidding, Mom,

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I love you. If my mom had never got me

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that Kiss destroyer, who knows? If she had never got

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me those solo records?

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Speaker 1: Who knows?

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Speaker 2: Every morning on Monsters of Rock Radio, what did I

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closed the show with my outro bumper music was Gene Simmons,

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when you Wish upon a Star? If it wasn't for Kiss,

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if it wasn't for Ace Frehley, who the fuck knows?

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Without Ace? There is no us? All right, kids, here's

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that interview from the Monsters of Rock Radio. Thank you

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you guys, have a great evening, and enjoy the Brian

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Slagel interview which is coming out today as well. Recorded

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before a Past And then I did record with Mitch

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Schneider pr Icon and talking Ozzie, Talking Petty, Talking Bowie,

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and we got off the air and I didn't even

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know that he represented Sam Kinnison and Bill Hicks, and

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that just blew my fucking mind. And now he's gonna

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have to come back because I want to talk about

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Bill Hicks for an hour. Check out the Patreon. This

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guys for listening. And here's my Ace FREHELI.

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Speaker 1: Interview Presley on the Monsters of Rock. Don't touch that dial, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, everybody, it is the Monsters Rock? Is he Presley here?

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And as promise on the phone line, A man that

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I've been wanting to interview since i was four years old,

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the reason I started playing guitar, my hero, Ace Frehley.

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Welcome to the Monsters of Rock, mister Freeley.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Wizzy. I didn't realize you were really at

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the rock and roll at age four.

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 2: Mom brought me up on Elvis and all that stuff.

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And then December twenty fourth, nineteen seventy six, Destroyer showed

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up underneath the Christmas tree and it changed my life forever.

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I was. I was warped forever.

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Speaker 1: I guess you could say, yeah, I've heard that story before,

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but Destroyer was a good record, and I'm glad it

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was the beginning of your rock and roll career, and

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so on and so forth.

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Speaker 2: Before we get realing into the record, I mean, obviously,

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the big news is you have a brand new band,

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and ironically it's good friends of mine. I was, I'm

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friends with Chris and Scott, and then all of a sudden, bam,

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my buddies in in Jean's band show up and it's

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like boom, they're an ACES band. Kind of explain kind

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of what happened there?

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Speaker 1: I told them, Yeah, I mean they were opening owing

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Jean and invited me to go on tour with him

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to Australia. You know. I asked him if I could

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use this band to open for me, because it would

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save me the large expense of flying in my whole

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band and crew, you know. So he said absolutely, and

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then we got along famously and the shows went great.

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You know. I opened for Jean. Then he came out

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and did an hour and forty five minutes. I had

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to hang out for an hour and a half, and

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then he brought me back on at the end of

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the show to do a rock and roll night and deuce,

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you know, and that brought down the house.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how long into that run after Jeane kind of

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fell off the bill and it was just you and

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those guys. Before you realize that, you know what, I

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want to use these guys.

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Speaker 1: Well, Yeah, Jean was supposed to go to Japan but canceled,

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so I ended up going to Japan with his band,

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and we just knocked them dead in Tokyo. It was

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so much fun. You know. We were doing two shows

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a night, and I was a little concerned that, you know,

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I'd be able to pull that off, two seventy minute shows,

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but I actually had a great time. And I think

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part of it had to do with how well these

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guys play and sing right right. You know, everybody in

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the band's elite singer, so we can do three or

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four part harmony, you know. In a way, it reminds

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me of the way Kiss was in the beginning, you know,

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you have four lead singers, Yeah, and the terrific musicians,

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easy to get along with, and to me, it was

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just the next logical step for me to go because

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I was having problems with one of the members my band,

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and I'm not going to mention any names, but it

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was only a matter of time, so I figured, you know,

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sooner than later, right.

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Speaker 2: And the one thing that I noticed I was watching

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some of the videos from that Japan tour, It's like

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you were playing stuff, playing the songs a little bit faster.

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The thing I noticed over the last few years has

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been really really fucking slow, and now it's kind of

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speeding getting back up to speed again.

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Speaker 1: He just gave the hints away. Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: So that's why, Yeah, exactly exactly, But no, it was

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nice to hear hear all the songs back up to

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speed again. And uh, I was. I was talking with

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Jeremy a little bit and he's like, you know, we

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were doing cold Gin and Osaka and we like it

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was like the live one extended version and a sounded

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like on a live one, and I was just geeking out.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what song really got me, you know.

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You know, because I've been doing two thousand Man on

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and off for the last several years with my band,

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you know, but they really never nailed the harmonies right,

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because there's some great harmonies on my version of two

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thousand Man, you know the cover I did of the Stones,

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and I remember performing it in Tokyo opening night and

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all of a sudden, I'm hearing this great harmony on

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both sides for the stage that I'm saying, Wow, I

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haven't heard this since I performed it with Paul and James.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how did you come across two thousand man. I

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know you're an old school, you know music guy, and

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I heard that you don't even listen to new music.

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You just listened to the old shit. And I know

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like a lot of the covers that you've done, you

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haven't wanted to do. And but two thousand man is.

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Speaker 1: Two thousand man is old ship.

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Speaker 2: It is it is.

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Speaker 1: It's from Satanic Magic. These request which was the that

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was the Stones follow up to Sergeant Pepper's Only Osco band.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, yeah, that's.

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Speaker 1: You got to do your homework on this stuff, now,

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is he?

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Speaker 2: Oh, I've trust me. I've heard the Stones version. I

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just didn't. Uh. I was just kind of wondering if

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that was one of the things.

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Speaker 1: That you Yes you did anything like The Stones.

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Speaker 2: Yes you did. And that's that. That song is always

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in my I actually have an Ace Freely tribute band

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called Act and uh, that's always in the set.

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Speaker 1: That's the first, right, you know what a for?

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Speaker 2: Uh huh ah. That is wild and weird stuff.

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Speaker 1: Actually I read that on.

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Speaker 2: So it's got to be true, right, it's got to

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be true. One of you know, one of the things

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that what's got the Internet so it has to be true, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: One of the things that we do in the band

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is we we do a lot of the non makeup stuff,

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and that's one of the things that I've noticed you've

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kind of gone away from over the years too, from

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the Freeliest Comment and the trouble Walking record and stuff

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like that. Is there a reason you haven't.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to do a couple of those on

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the Kiss Crews.

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Speaker 2: Nice.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think we're going to try to revive Save

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Your Love, and I mean everybody has been demanding dark

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Light for years, right, So we're gonna I'm actually flying

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in a day early and going to a rehearsal studio

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with the guys in Miami, you know, the day before

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we get on the boat, so we can you know,

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perform those to the best of our ability.

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Speaker 2: And uh, you got to watch out for those guys.

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They have tricks on how to get you to play

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songs that you might have forgotten about, So just be careful.

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I know their tricks. I'm not gonna give them away,

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but I know them. I'm sure Jane has told you

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about them, but uh, I mean.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't said much. He just you know, He's just

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happy that I'm using him because you know, he just

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thinks they're a better band for me to work with.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and like I said.

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Speaker 1: He's kind of taken me under his wing, so to speak,

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and you know he's looking out for my best interests.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome. Man. Well, and I know you guys kind

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of you know, you guys are reconnected and he played

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on the new record, But you guys did that show

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in Saint PAULI a year ago? Is this kind of

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how it all grew?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just like the planets are aligning.

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That's like, I don't know how else to put it.

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I was just talking to my uh uh, public public

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I was just sucking to my publicist, Bill My and

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I said, Bill, you know, everything just seems to be

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going my way lately, and I go, I feel like

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the planets are aligning and I'm into bigger and better things.

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And you know, one day at a time, I'm just

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going with it. I'm going with the flow.

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Speaker 2: That's all you can really do. But I did see

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something that you're going to be doing the seventieth solo

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record front to back at it like a New Jersey

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Kiss expo or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard that, even though it wasn't my idea.

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I just got a phone call and saying you gotta

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do that, and luckily I can easily do it with

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this band, right right.

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Speaker 2: It was probably got to chop have.

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Speaker 1: Three guitar players instead of too so a lot of that,

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A lot of that album I overdubbed a lot of

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extra guitars. So we'll be able to do that in

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New Jersey. I think it's ten days before Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Nice and you know what, it might have been them.

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It might have been might have been one of their tricks.

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Speaker 1: Okay, right, exactly, not a cheap trick.

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Speaker 2: So the new record comes out on Friday. I want

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to thank you for picking my birthday for the new

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record to come out. That's uh, it makes me feel

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very honored. It's called space.

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Speaker 1: I'm the first person to say that.

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Speaker 2: Really. Yeah, well, I'm just gonna take I'm just going

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to take pride.

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Speaker 1: The fact heard the record yet I have.

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Speaker 2: And I really like it. You're you're playing is fucking amazing.

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Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Some one of my favorite songs is the Eddie Money cover.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great, that's great, Uh, song that you've loved

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for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I've always been a big fan of

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Eddie Money. I remember seeing him play a two hundred

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c club when his first album came out, and then

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subsequently he had the huge hit Two Tickets to Paradise

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and he, you know, his career was off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and I thought you did a great job on.

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Speaker 1: It, thank you. You know, pretty much Eddie's Eddie's version

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is keyboards and sacks, uh huh. And I pretty much

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eliminated keyboards and sacks and just layered a lot of guitars.

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Speaker 2: Well that's sometimes, you know. That's one thing I love

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about your covers is you kind of reinvent them and

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really make them your own.

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Speaker 1: Somebody told me I asify him.

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Speaker 2: You know, people people can look at this, just look

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at the song titles on the new record, you know,

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like I want to go back and rocking with the boys,

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and without without you, I'm nothing and kind of kiss

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geeks might be able to or might read into it

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a little bit too far, thinking that, oh my god,

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he's saying he wants to go back to kiss.

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Speaker 1: Well I don't hear that. I just you know, a

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lot of people are comparing this album to my seven

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dy eight solo album. And you know, then some people

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are saying, well, you know, a lot of the songs

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are auto biographical, you know. I mean I identified with

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the I want to go back because I looked at

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that video and it reminded me of when, you know,

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I did a piece with the Village Voice a couple

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of years ago, and they they made me go back

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up to the Bronx and show my old high school,

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so on and so forth places I used to hang outing.

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And then I saw that video and I said, Wow,

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what a great video. And not only that, I mean

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the song is brilliant and the lyrics and the melody

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are wonderful. So I just said, I got to do

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that song.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. It's great. And I know we got

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to wrap up here pretty quick. So I know you're

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on the press junket fun times. But one thing I

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did want to touch on, and.

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Speaker 1: They'll just tell me we're fine, I hope.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, no, god, no ship. If I if I

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had the time, I would keep you on here for

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three hours. But but you know, got another ten minutes.

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All right, cool, But next time you're in LA, we

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got to get you in studios. We can do a

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nice uh, nice long form sit down. But I was

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just that, I know, I know, I was at the

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m I thing. I was the dork in the eighties

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Ace Frailey replica stage jacket that asked about selling guitars. Okay, yeah,

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I made a Chris Wise joke and You're like, you

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gotta look like Chris, and I'm like, oh, okay, god

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of threw me for a loop.

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Speaker 1: Chris is a great guy. You know, he's working with

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the Vampires now, he's doing shows that Joe Perry. He

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just swishes me the best, you know, which is the

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way it should be from everybody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Actually Chris has played with us, played with my

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Ace Frailey tribute band. It was fun. He's a yeah,

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he's a great dude. But I mean, obviously, you know

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Kiss is going on their big into the Road tour,

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and if Gene and Paul come out and say like, look,

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this is the band. You know it's Tommy and Eric,

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this is the band. But they came to you and said, look,

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I mean, would you be opposed to opening the opening

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the tour? Would that be something that you'd be interested

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in or would that be like a slap in.

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Speaker 1: The face I would not open the tour. Okay, you

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can tell them. I said that they're going to hear it, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, cool.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's something that kiss geeks talk about.

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Speaker 1: I can't regain my throne. I'm not going to be the.

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Speaker 2: Oh I love it. I love it, and that is

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your throne.

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Speaker 1: God damn it.

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Speaker 2: Yes you did. I mean, going going back to seventy eight,

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when the Solo records came out, I knew they kind

491
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of came out as a you and Peter wanted to

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leave and they said, no, stay, able to do solo records. YadA, YadA, YadA.

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Did the solo records? Is can't be the last question? Unfortunately,

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not necessarily that did? The solo records kind of cause

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a bigger but a bigger jar in a bigger cut

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in the in the band.

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Speaker 1: You mean the word you're looking for is a rip?

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Speaker 2: Yes, not too thank you? Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I usually can't remember those kinds of words, but I did.

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Speaker 2: Obviously I can't either. What you know, what you know?

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Speaker 1: What you know? What happened is they when I went

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in the studio with Eddie Kramer alone, just me, Eddie

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and Anton Tigg. You know you know, it was very

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obvious to me. I was more creative away from Paul

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and Jean and Peter. Yeah, sometimes you got too many

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chefs in the kitchen. And uh, it was kind of

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the beginning of the end because I saw myself, you know,

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eventually leaving Kiss and going out on my own and

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putting a band together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, when I made that decision, I forgot that I

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was drunk in the drug addicts. Everything work his plans.

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But you know, somehow, some way I got out of that.

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And you know, now I'm twelve years sober and everything

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seems to be going my way.

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Speaker 2: And you're off the sugars and greens. Well, you're off.

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You're on that low carb diet. Man, You're thin.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I love it. It's it's just right to see. Yeah,

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I love it, man, You're healthy. And I guess kind

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of where I was going to with the question is

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did the did the solo records cause any jealousy between

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the members? I mean cause I know you had you know,

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you were on the wall of the wet Madison Square

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Garden for years. It was just you. It wasn't the band.

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Was there like a competition in jealousy between the guys

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at the time.

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Speaker 1: You know, those guys never acknowledged that my album did

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the best. And if you asked Jank today, he'll still

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say that his album sold.

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Speaker 2: That's what it says on Wikipedia. Ironically.

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Speaker 1: Look, ain't know Jeane Zigo y yes, absolutely here has

533
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a pretty big ego. And I mean, you know, we

534
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never talked about it, to be honest with different. Okay

535
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from my memory, you know, but I don't remember discussing it.

536
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It was just we all did it and then we

537
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tried to move on, you know, and got you. But

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I think they were very much aware of the fact

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that I was going to want to have more more

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songs on records in the future, which I did, and

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they were realizing, you know that I'm somebody that I

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must respect, bar and let me just you know, do

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my thing.

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Speaker 2: Well, you did a great thing. Just thank you, as

545
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I did a great thing. You did a great thing

546
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the whole career, you did a great thing and everything,

547
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it was everything. You know, you made a great solo record,

548
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You've had a great career, rock and roll Hall of Fame.

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I mean, what else can you say, dude? And as

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a fan, I just want to say thank you. I

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know you've heard that ten billion times, but thank you

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for coming on the Monsters of Rock. And like I said,

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next time you're in LA, let's sit down and do this.

554
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Do this face to face.

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Speaker 1: All right. It sounds like a plan. Thank you, Izzie.

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I'm glad you liked the record, and I'm just hoping

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when it hits the street in two days the fans

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feel the same way.

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Speaker 2: I hope so too, and I'm gonna do my goddamn

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bestis to uh make sure.

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Speaker 1: All right. Well, you know I live in Ratchell, Santa Face,

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so I'm only an hour and forty five minutes from you.

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Speaker 2: I know I'll make the drive. Just say the word,

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all right, Yeah, absolutely, thank you so much, man, I

565
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really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks all right, have a great day.

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Speaker 2: Anytime, all right. Yeah, bye bye, bye bye