Speaker 1: Hey, welcome into another episode. We're gonna be talking about
some low stakes Poker're gonna actually be talking about a hand.
I'm gonna be talking about a hand, specifically a hand
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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about this hand quickly.
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the podcast. Right now, let's jump into this hand. So
if you want to actually look at this hand, it's
on Bart's Crush Live Poker YouTube channel. It was published
on May the fifth of twenty twenty five, so I
don't know when you're listening to this, but that's where
you'll want to go. May fifth, twenty twenty five, And
the name of the video is can you solve this
tough limp pot river spot? You know limp pods can
be complicated. I looked it was very excited to watch
the video. So to say, it's a three blind game.
It was a two three five game with a ten
dollars straddle, so it was two three five ten. There
was like an under the gun limper, there was like
a middle position limper. Then this two dollars called and
then this three dollar completed, and then the hero was
in the five dollars big blind completed, and then the
stradle checked it back. So by my calculations, this was
like eight eight people to a flop.
Speaker 2: It's like eighty dollars with the pot or something.
Speaker 1: And the hero who completed in the big blind had
Jack four of hearts. Now, a lot of people would
say just right off the bat, like, I'm not saying
you have to fold his hand, but I'm just going
to tell you what happens in his hand most a
lot of the time, too much of the time for comfort.
There are so many people seeing a flop in his hand.
You just get reverse.
Speaker 2: Coolered a ton.
Speaker 1: You get reversed coolered by the Queen eye flush and
the King high flush and the Ace high flush, and
then you're gonna flop two pairs sometimes and you're just
gonna get cooler when when the flop comes like Jack
tin four and they got Jack tin and you got
Jack four. I mean, so many bad things happen, Like
literally the best flop you could hope for would be
like four four something, And even then you can get
cooler by Queen four, King four, Ace four plus eighty
four that pairs up four. I mean, it's just a
horrible hand. People say I'm nitty, but there's sure there's odds,
like there's odds to call, but there's hands that are
just hands that are just gonna get cooler to ton.
And when you have a lot of reverse implied odds hands,
I just don't like playing them. I don't care if
it's for five dollars or not. But you know it's fine.
I'm not hating on calling. You can for sure a call.
If you're really good at navigating post flop, for sure
you can call. So anyway, so we just see this
pot it's like eighty dollars or something, and the flop
comes like king King Jack seven King seven. So Hero
has a jack. He has middle pair with a dog
crap kicker. He's a four kicker on King Jack seven.
He is a jack with a four kicker second pair
one of the worst kickers.
Speaker 2: You can imagine.
Speaker 1: But it checks around and then a four comes on
the turn and now he ro has middle pair and
bottom pair. He has two pair and the little the
little two and three dollars original two dollars and three
dollars blinds checked him.
Speaker 2: He now bets.
Speaker 1: There was I forget if there was either a call
or it folded back around to the smallest blind don't
remember which it's kind of irrelevant, and the smallest blind
like raises it like, I don't know, three and a
half ax or four x or something. And this is
where this discussion of this video goes off the rails
because they start talking about all these things that are
just ridiculous. Uh. And again, no insult. I'm not throwing
shade at anybody, by the way. Let me let you
and on the secret like, Bart needs compelling hands and
he needs to have things to talk about for this
public facing YouTube channel. And I know what that's like
because I try to come up with content for you
guys that's public facing on the free pod and it
can be tough sometimes. And so what's he gonna do?
Put the collar on and go? You should have folded
pre or what's he gonna do? Go? You know, it's
just a monster and you should probably mostly fold here.
Speaker 2: No, he's gonna talk. I get it. He's gonna talk
through all these possibilities.
Speaker 1: Well, there was a lot of talk about this guy
and the two dollars mind or whatever it was being
agro and he didn't raise pre flop, and he can't
have Kings, and he can't have Jackson, he can't have
blah blah blah, and so no, no, no, the instant, I'm
gonna tell you when I'm watching this video, the instant
that the guy said he bet that turn and got
check raised by the very first person that had to
act eight ways or whatever it was, seven ways.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's got a set a sevens. The guy's
just got to set a sevens.
Speaker 1: The flop was rainbow. It's a rainbow flop. There's nothing
scary about it. He has to act first that there's
like seven people behind him. Of course he's gonna go
through for the check raise, but nobody bet. So Now
the turn comes and it's a pretty innocuous turn.
Speaker 2: But it doesn't make the board.
Speaker 1: Still not all that scary, Still a gaggle of people
behind him. So he's like, I'll just go for a
check raise again. Of course he's gonna go for the
check raise again. That's how he's gonna make the most money.
Speaker 2: What could he be.
Speaker 1: Raising here, like trying to dream up hands that he
could raise here. Look, if you were first of all
if you were playing games against better competition, this wouldn't
have happened. It wouldn't have gone seven or eight ways
to a flop, so wouldn't have been a thing. But
you know, against generally speaking, when you're in against better
competition and there's two players and a hand or three
players in the hand or something like that, and somebody
check raises when the turn breaks in a gut shot
and a diamond draw or something like that, yeah, maybe
they're bluff and raising with that sometime. But when you're
at low stakes and seven or eight people went to
a flop, that's not what's happening. They're not checked raised
bluffing you with a semi bluff or a turned diamond
draw or a gut shot with a diamond draw, or
you know.
Speaker 2: That's not that's not what's happening. They're just they're just
not happening. By the way, just let me say the
guy could just have king four.
Speaker 1: He could have just completed with king four, and he
could have flopped top pair with a weak kicker and
checked it, and then the four comes on the turn
and he gives you Jackson Fords, and he gives him
kings for he could just have King four.
Speaker 2: I mean, he also could just have pocket fours. I
know that there's only you know, she's.
Speaker 1: Exactly one pombo of that left, but he can still
he can just have that. By the way, he most
like last sevens though, that's the thing that makes the
most sense.
Speaker 2: But he could just have King four.
Speaker 1: It gets so many hands that would play this way
that you're just drawing basically dead too, because the only
thing you can fill up that beats any of those hands,
I guess, other than pocket fours.
Speaker 2: As a jack, that's it. You're drawing to two jacks man.
Speaker 1: So anyways, I watched the rest of the video and
I watched all this analyzing happen, and then I watched
the river come and whatever, it's a blank or something,
and relative it's a relative blank.
Speaker 2: The board was.
Speaker 1: Such that there were the true blanks, like bunch of
gut shots and stuff like that could have come in,
but relatively speaking, it was a blank. A flush didn't
come in right, and like an open ender didn't come in.
So then the guy BET's big on the river. I
think it was like I don't remember what it was.
It's like a seven or eight hundred dollars party bets
five hundred, and I'm screaming, fold man, it's full what
are you doing? You should have folded turn But okay,
you saw a river, you didn't head a jack. Just
fold the guy called. Sure enough, the guy pocket sevens.
So here, here's here's the difference I guess between somebody
that spends their life in these low steak streets like
I spend my life in these low steak streets.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I play some really big one three games sometimes, some
really big two five games sometimes, but I would say
eighty percent of my play is in these you know,
one two games. They're just these little little one two
games with a two three or four hudred dollars.
Speaker 2: Buying or something.
Speaker 1: I know all these people play. You know, that's where
I live and breathe that and low stakes poker is simple.
The only reason that low stakes poker ever gets complicated
is because you made it complicated. You went off into
the weeds the thing that made the most sense. You
chose to ignore and just focus on a lot of
other things that didn't make a whole lot of sense.
That's what happened in this hand. That's what I see
happen at low stakes hold them all the time, and.
Speaker 2: You can just fold these spots. Man.
Speaker 1: They're just when it's super multi way and somebody's check
raising into a gaggle of people. I mean, you got
second and bottom pair, act your two paar, second in
bottom like like, you don't even beat.
Speaker 2: Second and third paar.
Speaker 1: You don't beat top in third pair, you don't beat
top and fourth pair, you don't beat such. I mean
the amount of things you don't beat when somebody's chuck
raising it like eight people is you don't beat anything, man.
Speaker 2: Just fold, just fold.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna tell you about this hand. The details
are a little hazy. I know, I flopped a set
of threes, and I believe that the flop was jack
uh jack eight three jack eight jack eight. Nope, no, no, no, no,
it was jack four three. Flop was jack four three.
I was on the button and it was limp lit
lip limp, and I just opted to limp with the threes. Now,
I don't sometimes I guess maybe I would raise these threes,
you know, when there's two or three limpers for two dollars,
because I could just take it down a lot. So
I'm not saying I never raise it, but I probably
just called with it a fair amount.
Speaker 2: Of the time as well.
Speaker 1: I don't know half or sixty percent of the time
problem is calling with it, and I don't know thirty forty.
Speaker 2: Percent of the time, maybe I'm raising.
Speaker 1: It just depends on the opponents, how deep the stacks are,
how people are likely to fold, what kind of table
I'm at, and this particular table it is called with
the threes.
Speaker 2: The villain is in the big blind.
Speaker 1: So the flop comes jack four three rainbow, jack four
or three rainbow. It checks to me and I bet
like half pot, and only this big blind villain called
the turn came an eight. Turn came at eight, so
it's jack four to three eight and it also brings
in a back door diamond draw.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: He checks to me, and I bet about half pot
again and he raises to like four.
Speaker 2: X my bet.
Speaker 1: Now I've been playing with this guy for like two
and a half hours, Like he is just uh pretty
nitty post flop, like he doesn't put money in without
the nuts.
Speaker 2: Are damn near it.
Speaker 1: I've seen it two three different times. He won't call
with a fair amount of hands pre flop, but post flop,
the guy he's just you know. In other words, he's
not a guy that turns like we were talking about earlier.
He's not a guy that turns a gut shot and
a flush jaw and decides to bluff raise with it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: He's not one of these kind of guys. He's also
typically to me, and this was my evaluation at the time.
He's not a guy that would have like had like
jack eight on this flop and then when the eight
come on the turn, decided to raise to like four
x my bet when he turned jackson eights on jack
four three eight. So I went in the tank for
quite a while. I went in the tank for quite
a while. I won't say I tanked for a minute,
which is a long time at a poker table. A
minute's in a turn edit at a poker table. And
I'm like, yeah, I'm like, I just I just fold.
I just fold him, like I just I can't think
of any hands you have that I had here a
bottom set, like he could have flopped a set of
fours and slow played it because the board wasn't dangerous
and then chose to raise me.
Speaker 2: On the turn. He's even one of those guys that
would have.
Speaker 1: Called a Jack's pre flop like he's one of those
guys he's like, he's never three button jacks or raising
Jackson Rea. So he could just have a set of jacks.
He could have just had a pair of eights and
turned a set of eights on the turn, because you know,
I about half on the flop, there's only one overcard
and it's not that scary of a flop, but he
could just flow to a pocket eights. I say, it
happened all the time. So there's so many hands that
are monsters that he could have. And I actually have
bottom set now I would I don't think I would
ever fold like middle set here. I don't like if
I'd had a set eights, I don't see how I
can ever fold that bottom set is like I mean,
it's it seems like a phenomenal hand. But when you
have this player type who I've seen play this way
for two and a half hours and I have a
pretty good beat on him, this just just almost always
be a fold. And so I made a very hard
discipline fold I like I said, I tanked for forty
five seconds for a minute, and I folded, and the
guy turns over to jack eight.
Speaker 2: So he had jack with a cacker on the.
Speaker 1: Flop, the eight came on the turn, gave him top
two pair on jack eight four to three, and he
just went hand with it. You know, kudos to him.
I had not seen him go that crazy with that
kind of a hand. He was very nutted. Now I
would say this, that's the only two pair I think
he would have done that with. That's just it, like,
I don't think he would have done it with any
two other pair. Only top two is probably the weakest
hand he ever has.
Speaker 2: There is top two.
Speaker 1: So you know, I made a bad fold in that hand.
But I told you that hand not because you can go, oh,
you're stupid and folding man. I told you that hand
to tell you that I do this all of the time,
and it prints money. It prints money, and you will
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they just will have something that you're like, oh wow,
But ninety percent of the time you're gonna be right,
And any decision you make that's right ninety percent of
the time is just gonna print money. It doesn't matter
when you're wrong ten percent of the time. All right,
I hope this episode helps you. Don't over complicate low
stakes poker, man, what's happening at a low stakes poker
table is almost always just pretty face up.
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