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Speaker 1: Our top story tonight is the Trump economy. When Donald
Speaker 1: Trump rescued the presidency in January that the economy was
Speaker 1: facing major headwinds. It turns out America as a nation
Speaker 1: far too dynamic to be successfully governed by an auto
Speaker 1: pen for long. Over the last several months, multiple economic
Speaker 1: indicators have shifted, pointing toward improvement, improvement that Americans are
Speaker 1: feeling after a contraction in the first quarter of twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five. The second quarter saw a really strong rebound,
Speaker 1: with gross domestic product rising to an annualized rate of
Speaker 1: three point three percent. Remember Obama told us we would
Speaker 1: never get growth over two percent. We've also had the
Speaker 1: Atlanta Fed's GDP now model estimating third quarter growth at
Speaker 1: around three point three percent, up from earlier estimates. Labor
Speaker 1: force participation among the working age has also increased under
Speaker 1: President trumpet remains above pre pandemic levels, and those were
Speaker 1: peaks before we entered into the Biden economy and all
Speaker 1: the shutdowns. Put simply, the Trump economy has more people
Speaker 1: getting value out of work. Over the first five months
Speaker 1: of the Trump administration, about six hundred and seventy one
Speaker 1: thousand payroll jobs were created. That's changing the lives of
Speaker 1: Americans for the better. Retail sales continue to rise. In August,
Speaker 1: retail sales rose five percent year over year, exceeding expectations.
Speaker 1: Private sector employment has been growing. In the second quarter,
Speaker 1: monthly average private sector job gain was actually stronger than
Speaker 1: it was in the first quarter. That's the right path
Speaker 1: to beyond. Business inventories have also increased, with a rising
Speaker 1: ratio of sales to inventories. That is suggesting strong demand
Speaker 1: remaining true. People are feeling more confident to spend money.
Speaker 1: In the Trump economy, tariffs have also been working. They
Speaker 1: used to account for about two percent of federal revenue
Speaker 1: under Trump, that has tripled. Collections have passed one hundred
Speaker 1: billion dollars for the first time ever. One of the
Speaker 1: architects of the Trump administration's tariff policy is senior White
Speaker 1: House advisor Peter Navarro. Now, in addition to him being
Speaker 1: an economic whiz, Doctor Navarro proved to be deeply loyal
Speaker 1: to the president.
Speaker 2: During the January sixth witch.
Speaker 1: Hunt, the illegitimate Illegal January sixth Committee pursued, prosecuted, and
Speaker 1: imprisoned Peter Navarro in concert with the Biden Justice Department.
Speaker 1: He emerged from prison to a triumphant return at the
Speaker 1: Republican National Convention.
Speaker 3: I went to prison so you won't have.
Speaker 1: To joining us now is President Trump's senior counselor for
Speaker 1: Trade and Manufacturing and the author of I went to
Speaker 1: prison So you won't have to A love and law
Speaker 1: fair story in trump Land, doctor Peter Navarro.
Speaker 2: Doctor Navarro, I want.
Speaker 1: To get to the book, but first, what now are
Speaker 1: the key indicators that you're tracking in the Trump economy?
Speaker 4: Man, I think you hit them all. I mean, I'm
Speaker 4: a macroeconomist. In my earlier life, i wrote books on
Speaker 4: the economic indicators to look at that we have no
Speaker 4: evidence of any kind of inflation, and I'm looking carefully
Speaker 4: at the bond market reflecting that the ten years going down,
Speaker 4: which is one of the best indicators, which means it's
Speaker 4: deflationary rather than inflationary. You look at consumer confidence, retail sales.
Speaker 4: The one that worries me the most is the ISM
Speaker 4: manufacturing index. That one is stayed stubbornly below fifty, which
Speaker 4: signals continue contraction there.
Speaker 3: But the important thing to understand is.
Speaker 4: That our whole policy economically with tariffs is designed to
Speaker 4: bring investment and factories back.
Speaker 3: To the United States.
Speaker 4: So there's going to be a lag between the tradions
Speaker 4: of dollars investment that are investing here to build factories
Speaker 4: and the time people are actually manufacturing. So we'll see
Speaker 4: a surge in construction employment because of this influx of
Speaker 4: trade related investment, and then we will get a rise
Speaker 4: in manufacturing. The bottom line is the Fed today should
Speaker 4: have cut rates by fifty basis points, and in my judgment,
Speaker 4: one hundred that's how far we're behind but that FED
Speaker 4: has been politicized like so many other institutions in this
Speaker 4: country that are anti Trump, And there you have it.
Speaker 4: But the look, Matt, Matt, the tariffs have succeeded beyond
Speaker 4: any wildest expectations, including it up to the point where
Speaker 4: now we're projected that we're going to get seven trillion
Speaker 4: dollars over the course of a ten year period.
Speaker 3: That's going to turn what looked to.
Speaker 4: Be a fiscal cliff we were going to crash over
Speaker 4: into a situation where we actually get debt reduction, and
Speaker 4: of course with debt reduction comes inflation reduction, bond yield reduction,
Speaker 4: mortgage rate reduction, consumer credit interest deduction, and so I
Speaker 4: think we're in a in a very good place. But
Speaker 4: having said all that, Matt, Matt, Matt, I got to
Speaker 4: thank you and Ginger from my heart heart and Bonnie's heart,
Speaker 4: my fiance for all the support you gave me when
Speaker 4: I was in prison, and I had a card which
Speaker 4: I kept that you and Ginger sent me, and in
Speaker 4: defiance of the guards, because you weren't supposed to put
Speaker 4: anything on the front of your.
Speaker 3: Locker, I put that up on my locker.
Speaker 4: And then they didn't dare to take it down, but
Speaker 4: I still regret the fact that they didn't allow you
Speaker 4: to come visit me in prison. You'll be happy to
Speaker 4: know that we got Bernadette Peters, a woman who called
Speaker 4: me what I forget what it was, a disruptor or
Speaker 4: something like the notorious.
Speaker 3: That was it.
Speaker 4: She wouldn't let you in because I was too notorious.
Speaker 4: She got fired within days of Donald Trump taking office. So, brother, I,
Speaker 4: from the bottom of my heart, it's all about you.
Speaker 4: You are thanked in the dedication to this book. I
Speaker 4: went to prison so you won't have to, and you
Speaker 4: were my anchor there.
Speaker 3: You and gen I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: We think so highly of you and Bonnie, and what
Speaker 1: happened was so deeply unfair. I do want to get
Speaker 1: into the book because you wrote Trump Time that brought
Speaker 1: the reader inside how President Trump makes decisions, how he
Speaker 1: engages in teamwork and leading the country. But this is
Speaker 1: a very different kind of book. It seems to be
Speaker 1: far more personal. What will readers learn when they pick
Speaker 1: it up.
Speaker 4: Well, it's three books in one in some sense, so
Speaker 4: it's a bargain there when you buy it first. It's
Speaker 4: obviously the story of how I as a senior White
Speaker 4: House advisor got put into prison. Every person involved in
Speaker 4: my imprisonment was a Democrat. They overturned fifty years of
Speaker 4: Department of Justice policy across party lines to just run
Speaker 4: rough shot over the constitutional separation of powers. I was
Speaker 4: simply defending the constitutional separation of powers from an out
Speaker 4: of control J six committee and is as my oath
Speaker 4: of office required, they put me in prison.
Speaker 3: So it's about that. Secondly, I mean, look, you want.
Speaker 4: To know what it's like to go to prison for
Speaker 4: a misdemeanor at seventy four years old, for something you
Speaker 4: actually didn't do, and wind up with two hundred felons.
Speaker 3: Read the book.
Speaker 4: It's it's well, I want to know did they know
Speaker 4: everything in between?
Speaker 2: You know, did the.
Speaker 1: People who were there in your bunk room know that
Speaker 1: you were a political prisoner there because of this high
Speaker 1: profile matter? Did you have friends, there were people nice
Speaker 1: to you.
Speaker 4: Well, see, that's that's part of the humor, the dark
Speaker 4: kind of Kafka meets Joseph Heller humor.
Speaker 3: The whole thing.
Speaker 4: Everybody in that prison knew I was coming to that
Speaker 4: prison before I did, because a couple of weeks before
Speaker 4: I was ordered to report there. They were put on
Speaker 4: Potempkin village detail with like mops and brooms and paint brushes,
Speaker 4: screwing in light bulbs. They went up on the roof
Speaker 4: and redid the roof so the helicopters coming by would
Speaker 4: look like it wasn't like falling apart and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: They redid the whole menu.
Speaker 4: And stuff like that, so rather than being like a
Speaker 4: starvation diet, it was like a half starvation diet. So
Speaker 4: when I got there number one, they knew I was coming.
Speaker 4: Number two, there's this thing where they every inmate that
Speaker 4: comes into a prison mat is like the other inmates
Speaker 4: look them up on this thing called pacer.
Speaker 3: You know what that is.
Speaker 4: It's illegal database, and what they want to find out
Speaker 4: is why they went to prison, whether they were a
Speaker 4: snitch and got a lighter sentence. So one of the
Speaker 4: most comic things that happened in the first couple of
Speaker 4: days I'm there is like these guys come around, they
Speaker 4: surround me. It's like what's going on here? And they go,
Speaker 4: you're a good guy, and I go, you know why okay,
Speaker 4: as they say, because you didn't snitch, And I'm thinking there,
Speaker 4: I'm just laughing to myself the moral equivalence between not,
Speaker 4: you know, refusing a congressional subpoena because of executive privilege
Speaker 4: and not like ratting out your your your fellow gang
Speaker 4: member on a crime. It was, you know, darkly amusing
Speaker 4: kind of stuff. But I saved a couple of lives
Speaker 4: in prison. There's really good stories about that. And and
Speaker 4: interestingly enough, Matt, I went in there as an inmate
Speaker 4: and spent all my time there as an investigative reporter,
Speaker 4: uncovered a five billion dollar taxpayer scandal, which you and
Speaker 4: I corresponded quite a bit about respect of the first
Speaker 4: step back, and Matt, you'll be happy to know on
Speaker 4: the outside, I've been able to get a good guy
Speaker 4: at the Department of Prisons as the director, and I've
Speaker 4: actually solved that problem. They've changed the policy in precisely
Speaker 4: the ways I recommended from.
Speaker 3: Prison, and that's not bad.
Speaker 4: A five billion dollars scandal I was able to solve,
Speaker 4: So you know, it wasn't worth going there for that
Speaker 4: at one level, but at least, say the taxpayers five
Speaker 4: billion dollars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, maybe we should just drop you off
Speaker 1: at every federal department for a few months and see
Speaker 1: what you write about and what we learn about that
Speaker 1: was one of the interesting consequences of your time in prison.
Speaker 1: You came out an expert on that system, and now
Speaker 1: it's really heartwarming to see that you're dedicating some of
Speaker 1: your time to improving it for others. But when we
Speaker 1: look back, when history looks back on this moment, the
Speaker 1: January sixth Committee illegitimately construed the Department of Justice tormenting
Speaker 1: you over this non misdemeanor, Like, what do you want
Speaker 1: to see happen to the people who were involved in
Speaker 1: these violations of procedure and in some cases law.
Speaker 4: Well, there's two things I want to happen. First of all,
Speaker 4: I know this, but my case is ongoing. It's on
Speaker 4: appeal in that building behind me. That's the Supreme Court
Speaker 4: us versus Peter Navarro should eventually wind up there to
Speaker 4: settle the central question is can the House of Representatives,
Speaker 4: the legislative brand subpoena a senior White House advisor in
Speaker 4: the executive branch And from the days of George Washington
Speaker 4: and the Jay Treaty, in the beginnings of executive privilege,
Speaker 4: in fifty years of formal DOJ policy, Department of Justice
Speaker 4: policy the.
Speaker 3: Answer was always nun.
Speaker 4: But now that the Biden regime flipped that, everybody going
Speaker 4: forward is going to be at risk serving in the
Speaker 4: White House are going to prison if they if they
Speaker 4: honor their oath of office. So I want good laws
Speaker 4: settled on the.
Speaker 3: Question.
Speaker 4: I want all of these bastards in jail, okay, and
Speaker 4: not just the ones who put me in prison, but
Speaker 4: the ones who tried to put Donald Trump in prison.
Speaker 4: And here's the thing what's interesting, Matt again, Chuck Grassley,
Speaker 4: Senator is doing a great job working with whistleblowers in
Speaker 4: the FBI, and he's out of this guy named Walter Giadina,
Speaker 4: the FBI agent who Cash Pettel has now fired. Why
Speaker 4: do I mention him? He was the son of who
Speaker 4: put me in handcuffs and leg irons. Purp walked my
Speaker 4: lovely fiance And I'm pointing to her because she's right
Speaker 4: behind the camera here and says hi, Purp walked her out.
Speaker 4: There were five armed FBI agents who come grab me.
Speaker 4: And it turns out he not only helped orchestrate my
Speaker 4: circus arrest, which was totally unnecessary, turns out he's a
Speaker 4: key figure as Grassley's whistleblower show in virtually every attempt
Speaker 4: to unsee Donald Trump or to interfere in the election
Speaker 4: starting in twenty sixteen. Matt, you know these details so well.
Speaker 4: The Steele dossier, what was that? That was the phony
Speaker 4: dossier compiled by Hillary Clinton to basically create the Russia Hope.
Speaker 1: Oh you're giving me, yeah, you know, you're giving me
Speaker 1: all the Russia Hope hoax vibes.
Speaker 2: But I do have to live. I'll give you a
Speaker 2: few more seconds, Peter for that.
Speaker 4: Giordina was the guy who green Lita's legitimate set the
Speaker 4: whole ball round.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Incredible, Yeah, Peter Navarro, amazing book. He went to prison,
Speaker 1: so the rest of us didn't have to. We can
Speaker 1: at least get the book. You're gonna learn a lot
Speaker 1: if you read it. Thank you, my friend.
Speaker 2: Always appreciate you it coming on night.
Speaker 3: Good to see you, Matt anytime, man.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, give body our love as well.
Speaker 1: And coming up, there is an ABC News reporter who
Speaker 1: is saying that she was canceled and lost her job
Speaker 1: as the result of a tribute to Charlie Kirk.
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Speaker 1: Tonight, we bring you a breaking story out of Springfield, Illinois,
Speaker 1: where a journalist disclaiming she was forced out of a
Speaker 1: job due to an on air tribute she gave Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2: Here is that tribute?
Speaker 7: Much for tuning into Marketplace today? So I to talk
Speaker 7: about something for a minute, and it is heavy, So
Speaker 7: please bear with me. I want you to know that
Speaker 7: it's okay if you feel sadness. It's okay if you
Speaker 7: feel if you're grieving. Two days ago, I lost a mentor,
Speaker 7: my first boss, the first person who made me believe
Speaker 7: in myself, that encouraged me to chase this dream that
Speaker 7: you're watching right now, Charlie Kirk. There's a lot going
Speaker 7: on in our world right now, in our country. But
Speaker 7: I want to say one thing. Lean on your neighbors,
Speaker 7: speak up for what you believe in. I don't care
Speaker 7: what it is I want to share with you. One
Speaker 7: of my favorite saying is that Charlie would always tell
Speaker 7: us at the office, he would yell it from the mountaintop.
Speaker 7: So please listen. When conversations stop happening, when individuals become wordless,
Speaker 7: that's when violence begins. So if you do one thing today,
Speaker 7: make it be with passion, with conviction. Stand up for
Speaker 7: your friends. Stand up for your beliefs, and speak loudly,
Speaker 7: even if your voice shakes. Your words have meaning, your
Speaker 7: values have purpose.
Speaker 8: Never forget that.
Speaker 7: Thank you c k changed my life.
Speaker 1: That was touching, an earnest and appropriate. So why isn't
Speaker 1: the journalist Benny Ray Harmony still on air. WICSABC twenty
Speaker 1: in Springfield has confirmed the resignation of miss Harmony. They
Speaker 1: say nobody has been fired or suspended in the last
Speaker 1: ninety days. Miss Harmony is contending that she resigned after
Speaker 1: being told you to remove a social media post of
Speaker 1: this tribute to Charlie Kirk. She said she was pressured
Speaker 1: and threatened. When asked specifically whether they threatened suspension or
Speaker 1: other disciplinary action over the tribute. The station refused to comment.
Speaker 1: Benny ray Harmony once interned in my congressional office. She's
Speaker 1: worked for Jack PASOBC and Media and at Turning Point USA,
Speaker 1: She joins us. Now, Benny, it's good to see you.
Speaker 1: Your tribute was beautiful and appropriate and appreciated.
Speaker 2: What happened when you posted it on social media.
Speaker 7: Well, Matt, it was not the response that I thought
Speaker 7: I would get. For sure, as you can see, I'm
Speaker 7: sure you've watched the video. It was not political whatsoever.
Speaker 7: It was honoring a mentor that we both knew, you
Speaker 7: and I and you actually were the person that encouraged
Speaker 7: me to go work for Turning Point in twenty twenty
Speaker 7: one again after I left your office. And it's just
Speaker 7: tragic that something as horrible that happened we all watched
Speaker 7: a tribute can't even be done without being punished for it.
Speaker 2: It was a human reaction.
Speaker 1: Were you told that it violated any type of policy
Speaker 1: of the network?
Speaker 7: No, Matt, they did not tell me why. All they
Speaker 7: told me was if I did not take it down,
Speaker 7: I would be punished, and I wasn't going to stick
Speaker 7: around and wait for that.
Speaker 2: Did they indicate what that punishment would be.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 7: Wow, we are currently the WICS station that I was
Speaker 7: at just got bought by a new company, Broadcasting Group,
Speaker 7: and it's safe to say it's pretty disorganized and nobody
Speaker 7: really knows what's going on in their own house. And
Speaker 7: I think that that's where a lot of the issues
Speaker 7: in the leadership stem from.
Speaker 1: How did others in your newsroom and in your news
Speaker 1: organization react to your resignation.
Speaker 7: Well, Matt, I was not expecting to be the first
Speaker 7: one to do it, but from hearing from my friends
Speaker 7: and the other people around me, they share a lot
Speaker 7: of the same opinions, but I was just the one
Speaker 7: to speak up. There's a lot more opinions and conservative voices,
Speaker 7: especially right here in Lincoln's Home and SPRINKLELT, Illinois.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again to your point that you've made rather convincingly,
Speaker 1: this wasn't even about politics. You would have said this
Speaker 1: about anyone that you'd worked with, even in a job
Speaker 1: that didn't have anything to do with politics. And I
Speaker 1: guess I'm trying to understand what about modern newsrooms are
Speaker 1: so like reticent to just allow people to have a
Speaker 1: human reaction.
Speaker 7: You think, Yeah, I don't know, Matt, I think I
Speaker 7: think this is not a battle of Democrat or Republican.
Speaker 7: I really think it's good versus evil and it goes back.
Speaker 7: This is not the first time I have seen my
Speaker 7: newsroom react the way they have and not air something
Speaker 7: or or you know, most recent there was another situation
Speaker 7: they would not air a Republican candidate that was running
Speaker 7: for office.
Speaker 8: And it's just sad.
Speaker 7: It's really sad to see this. And it's also sad
Speaker 7: to see managers going around the newsroom and feeding their
Speaker 7: leftist propaganda to us, calling Trump Nazis, pedophile, calling him Hitler,
Speaker 7: and all these awful things. And Matt, this is what
Speaker 7: our young reporters and our young anchors are witnessing every
Speaker 7: single day. They are fed this in their ears in
Speaker 7: newsrooms across the country.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: And you know, you are proof that Turning Point was
Speaker 1: this great incubator, this ecosystem where if you were excited
Speaker 1: about storytelling, if you're excited about sharing the truth with people,
Speaker 1: you would gain more skills, you would have opportunities. What
Speaker 1: would be your message to someone who was going to
Speaker 1: volunteer at Turning Point or maybe even work for Turning
Speaker 1: Point about how that might help them in their future endeavors.
Speaker 7: Well, it's not just about us at this point anymore.
Speaker 7: I would encourage anyone to get involved. Go to TPUSA
Speaker 7: dot com, do anything, speak your voice. All I said
Speaker 7: in that tribute and what I want people to take
Speaker 7: away from this is speak up even if your voice shakes,
Speaker 7: no matter what. I don't care what the backlash is.
Speaker 7: If you have values and you have morals, stand up
Speaker 7: for them. Good will always beat evil. And if you
Speaker 7: want to get involved, like I said, go to TPUSA
Speaker 7: dot com. Check out news sources like OA in like
Speaker 7: Real America's Voice, and things that truly feed us and
Speaker 7: the values that we care so much about. And just fight,
Speaker 7: like Trump said when he dodged that bullet that day,
Speaker 7: fight fight, fight, and don't give up. And in the
Speaker 7: wise words of Erica Kirk, I want to end this
Speaker 7: by saying, Charlie's mission, it won't die because we won't
Speaker 7: let it.
Speaker 2: Such a touching tribute.
Speaker 1: Though you're not going to be at ABC twenty anymore,
Speaker 1: I think we're going to be hearing a lot more
Speaker 1: from Benny ray Harmony.
Speaker 2: Thank you for your journalism and for standing up for
Speaker 2: your friend.
Speaker 7: Thank you Matt.
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Speaker 1: recently to talk about his campaign.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think I can do more good after next
Speaker 9: year and a half staying with President Trump and then
Speaker 9: the next two years of him being in office, being
Speaker 9: in Alabama and using that power that he's going to
Speaker 9: send back and help help the Yelloheammer state become better
Speaker 9: and better.
Speaker 1: Coach Tubberville trading Washington for the cotton fields and easy
Speaker 1: smiles of the Deep South. So who is positioning to
Speaker 1: succeed him in the United States Senate? Congressman Barrymore is
Speaker 1: a conservative MAGA stalwart. He has launched a campaign for
Speaker 1: the United States Senate and he joins us now. So
Speaker 1: I want to get to the Senate campaign in just
Speaker 1: a moment. Congressman. First, we've got this government funding bill.
Speaker 1: Tell us what's going to happen.
Speaker 10: So, man, it looks like another short term CR based
Speaker 10: on what I'm hearing right now.
Speaker 2: You know, that's.
Speaker 10: Business as usual in Washington, DC, you know. So right now,
Speaker 10: the latest I've heard is it's going to be short term.
Speaker 10: Maybe kick the can till November and try to figure
Speaker 10: out from there what we're going to do. Many of
Speaker 10: us wanted to clean CR because we couldn't seem to
Speaker 10: get our appropriations bills across the floor.
Speaker 8: But right now, man, it.
Speaker 3: Looks like a CR.
Speaker 10: Maybe till I guess seven week CR and then we'll
Speaker 10: do it again somewhere down the read and figure it
Speaker 10: out it from there.
Speaker 1: I suppose the normal Washington rhythm where no one is
Speaker 1: essentially responsible responsible for the high spending. I do want
Speaker 1: to get to this race in Alabama. What do you
Speaker 1: think The key question is that Alabama Republicans will ad
Speaker 1: sir when they cast their ballot in the upcoming US
Speaker 1: Center primary.
Speaker 10: Well, hopefully who can fill Coach's shoes and who'll be
Speaker 10: a Trump ally.
Speaker 8: I think that's the two things.
Speaker 10: And Coach and I are the two most conservative guys
Speaker 10: from the entire delegation. He has a ninety one point
Speaker 10: seven liberty score and I have a ninety two point four,
Speaker 10: and I remind him very often I'm a little more
Speaker 10: conservative than he is when it comes to protecting liberty.
Speaker 10: So I think right there, the people in Alabama just
Speaker 10: that for the most part, we're a red state. Well
Speaker 10: we don't always get true red representation. So being in
Speaker 10: House Freedom Caucus, Coach has done a good job. We
Speaker 10: came here at the same time and been in the
Speaker 10: fight together, and so when he decided to go run
Speaker 10: for governor, it felt like we needed to step up
Speaker 10: and do our part to continue to fight.
Speaker 1: You and I served together on the House Judiciary Committee.
Speaker 1: There was not a lot of room to the right
Speaker 1: of Barry Moore. When you look at your time in
Speaker 1: the House of Representatives, is there a particular vote you
Speaker 1: took or position you held that you think most defines
Speaker 1: how you're approaching your candidacy for the Senate.
Speaker 10: Well, I think consistency just always doing what you tell
Speaker 10: vote the way you tell your people you're going to
Speaker 10: And so when I ran i ran, I told him
Speaker 10: I would join the House Freedom Caucus, you know, And
Speaker 10: a lot of times in those debates, Matt people wouldn't
Speaker 10: agree to that. I had a seven way primary in
Speaker 10: twenty twenty and and a lot of people are like, well,
Speaker 10: you know, they don't want to answer the question.
Speaker 6: But I knew when I.
Speaker 10: Came here and sit antal House Freedom Caucus, that's truly
Speaker 10: the place I felt when I left, I didn't need
Speaker 10: a shower, right, I mean, those are our kind of people,
Speaker 10: and they matched the Alabama's heart and the conservative values.
Speaker 10: But very often in DC, Man, we don't have people
Speaker 10: that vote that way.
Speaker 2: In the Senate.
Speaker 1: Oftentimes the filibuster becomes this great question of procedure and process.
Speaker 1: It's not in the constitution. Do you think the Senate
Speaker 1: philibuster should be maintained.
Speaker 2: You know, I think so.
Speaker 10: I think we have to look at it and as
Speaker 10: we get there and see how we approach it. But
Speaker 10: right now I think it's something we probably need to maintain.
Speaker 2: Is John Thune doing a good job as Senate leader
Speaker 2: so far?
Speaker 10: I mean, I would have liked to see these nominations,
Speaker 10: you know, move a little quicker, and they have changed
Speaker 10: the rules, and so it's unfortunate President Trump we're in
Speaker 10: eight months nine months now going into his term, and
Speaker 10: the Democrats have just been resisting any kind of nomination appointees,
Speaker 10: and so for Thun to move that, I'm glad to
Speaker 10: see that we're at least getting some process on these nominations,
Speaker 10: getting some approved, and hopefully we'll continue to see that
Speaker 10: direction towards supporting President Trump getting his nominees in place
Speaker 10: so we can get the work done that needs to
Speaker 10: be done in the Senate as well.
Speaker 1: It really is crazy that we're like almost a year
Speaker 1: uno the Trump presidency and there are still ambassadorships that
Speaker 1: are unfilled where qualified people have been nominated, they haven't
Speaker 1: gotten a vote, they haven't gotten a hearing, and because
Speaker 1: Leader Thoon won't allow recess appointments, those billets are unfilled,
Speaker 1: and it does seem disappointing. I want to talk about
Speaker 1: the race itself. You very likely will represent the MAGA
Speaker 1: force in the race. But we do know within the
Speaker 1: Republican Party there still are establishment forces. There are people
Speaker 1: who believe the Republican Party should look more like Paul
Speaker 1: Ryan or Nikki Hayley, who in the Senate contest you
Speaker 1: believe will be carrying that mantle.
Speaker 10: So right now I'm up against an attorney general, the
Speaker 10: current Attorney General Valley. He was a Democrat till twenty
Speaker 10: and eleven. He changed parties and he got then the
Speaker 10: I guess the appointment as an attorney or local DA
Speaker 10: and he's been pretty well appointed and then one as
Speaker 10: an appointee, So he hasn't really ever had a battle.
Speaker 10: But for me to be in the battle, I actually
Speaker 10: came into the fight when Barack Obama was President of
Speaker 10: the United States in twenty and ten. I started in
Speaker 10: the state legislature and became the most dependable conservative vote,
Speaker 10: and so I was in the fight for the Republican
Speaker 10: Party when my opponent was still in the fight with Obama.
Speaker 10: And so I think that's probably gonna be the establishment guy,
Speaker 10: and we're gonna just like said, We're gonna run on
Speaker 10: our record, see how it shakes out.
Speaker 2: But I think once we get the message out, Matt.
Speaker 10: Who we are or how we v allied with the president.
Speaker 10: I was the first in the nation in Dorsey in
Speaker 10: August twenty first, twenty fifteen the lab People Stadium. And
Speaker 10: so I've been on the.
Speaker 2: Trump training my friend, long before it left the station.
Speaker 10: And we're going to continue to help the President do
Speaker 10: what he needs to do to truly make America great again.
Speaker 1: And where can folks go to find out more about
Speaker 1: your campaign and support you if they're interested, Yes.
Speaker 8: Sir Barrymore for Alabama dot Com.
Speaker 1: Awesome, Well, Barrymore has been a great congressman. I enjoyed
Speaker 1: serving with you. You are a true, sincere, genuine conservative and
Speaker 1: we wish you well.
Speaker 2: Please stay safe on the trail. It's pretty wild out.
Speaker 8: There, pretty wild.
Speaker 2: Thank you, my friend, Thank you.
Speaker 1: And coming up, we will go to the front lines
Speaker 1: of the war between Russia and Ukraine. Oan investigative reporter
Speaker 1: Pearson Sharp is in Russia. He has actually been embedded
Speaker 1: doing wartime journalism, and we will get a fabulous report
Speaker 1: from him in just moments.
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Speaker 1: Today, we continue our coverage of the war between Russia
Speaker 1: and Ukraine. Russia has launched thousands of drones and missiles
Speaker 1: so far this month, targeting Ukraine's energy infrastructure, military supply points,
Speaker 1: and civilian as coordinated strike of over five hundred drones
Speaker 1: and missiles hit in early September. It did hit those
Speaker 1: military infrastructure sites, energy facilities, and there were a lot
Speaker 1: of power disruptions and damage as a consequence. Ukraine has
Speaker 1: continued an intensified attack campaign against Russia as well, looking
Speaker 1: at their oil, gasoline pipelines, rail networks. Some terminals and
Speaker 1: refineries were also damaged. O and investigative reporter Pearson's Sharp,
Speaker 1: host of the Sharp Report here on One American News,
Speaker 1: has traveled to the front lines. He's spent time with
Speaker 1: the troops fighting this war, and he joins us now
Speaker 1: from Russia. Pearson, First of all, it's good to see
Speaker 1: you safe and sound. It looked from some of the
Speaker 1: snippets of your reporting I was able to see that
Speaker 1: you were pretty close to the front lines and the fighting.
Speaker 1: Tell us where you are and what you have learned
Speaker 1: about this war from your reporting and your journalism.
Speaker 11: First, I'd like to read this pre prepared speech from
Speaker 11: my KGB handler.
Speaker 8: I'm kidding.
Speaker 11: We're here in Nishni Novgro and it's about a four
Speaker 11: hour train ride east of Moscow, and this is.
Speaker 8: Where some of the drone attacks have been happening.
Speaker 11: And actually they have they'ven sawd some jammers in the
Speaker 11: area to block signal because you know, they're trying to
Speaker 11: keep the drones from attacking the military targets.
Speaker 8: But in any case, this.
Speaker 11: Past week we were down in Donbas, which is a
Speaker 11: large region.
Speaker 8: Down near Ukraine, and we were in.
Speaker 11: Donietes, We went to Mariopold, we went to the asovs
Speaker 11: as of Stall steel plant. We went to a couple
Speaker 11: of other small towns that have just been absolutely decimated
Speaker 11: by the fighting, and being down here has been incredibly
Speaker 11: eye opening as far as the kinds of people that
Speaker 11: you meet, the kinds of things you see that just
Speaker 11: destroy the Western narrative about what's happening here and what
Speaker 11: life is actually like in Russia.
Speaker 2: Really are people dealing with all of the death?
Speaker 8: I mean, that's a.
Speaker 11: That's a very difficult question to answer. How does anyone
Speaker 11: deal with the death? The people here are living their
Speaker 11: lives as best they can. Don Bass has been the
Speaker 11: center of a lot of the fighting, and we went
Speaker 11: to Donetsk, which was the.
Speaker 8: Frontline of the war for quite a while.
Speaker 11: It's now moved quite a bit west from there, but
Speaker 11: the people have tried to integrate the war into their
Speaker 11: lives the best that they can. We went to a
Speaker 11: park in don Yetsk and it was a memorial park.
Speaker 11: They had a little shrine there for the children that
Speaker 11: have been killed by the Ukrainian shelling. And so far,
Speaker 11: the running count just in Donetsk, not in all of
Speaker 11: don Bass, but just in Donetsk is two hundred and
Speaker 11: fifty seven children that have been killed from Ukrainian shelling
Speaker 11: and it was called the Alley of Angels, and I'm
Speaker 11: it was very powerful.
Speaker 1: Oh that sounds horrendous, and it certainly animates President Trump's
Speaker 1: efforts to try to end this war and end the killing.
Speaker 1: You know, little children should not be dying because of
Speaker 1: this type of geopolitics. It's a tragedy. You know, Pearson
Speaker 1: that we've seen photos of you interacting with the people
Speaker 1: who are fighting this war. What can you tell us
Speaker 1: about those people?
Speaker 11: So we actually got to visit some of the troops
Speaker 11: who are fighting for the Russians against the Ukrainians. And
Speaker 11: the incredible part was that these aren't Russian soldiers. These
Speaker 11: are Ukrainians and they've decided to join with Russia and
Speaker 11: fight against the Ukrainian regime as.
Speaker 8: They call it.
Speaker 11: And when I asked them how they felt about fighting
Speaker 11: against fellow Ukrainians and you know, are they fighting for
Speaker 11: Russia now?
Speaker 8: Do they do? They want to see Russia win?
Speaker 11: They say, we're not fighting for Russia, We're fighting to
Speaker 11: free Ukraine.
Speaker 8: And I think that.
Speaker 11: Says a lot about the mindset of the people here.
Speaker 11: They don't think that Ukraine is free right now. The
Speaker 11: Ukrainians living there don't think that it's free. And these people,
Speaker 11: the soldiers that I spoke with, none of them joined
Speaker 11: the army willingly. They were grabbed off of the streets,
Speaker 11: thrown into vans and forced to fight. One of them
Speaker 11: was a university student and he was trying to get
Speaker 11: his doctorate because apparently there's some kind of loophole that
Speaker 11: once you get your doctorate, you don't have to fight.
Speaker 11: And so he was literally at his desk at school
Speaker 11: and the hinchman came in and dragged him out, kicking
Speaker 11: and screaming, and threw him into a van.
Speaker 8: Suddenly, you're in the army now.
Speaker 1: So when he was in the Ukrainian army but then
Speaker 1: switched sides and joined the Russian side of the fight.
Speaker 8: And join the Russians. Yes, wow, so fight against wow.
Speaker 2: Conscription may may not be all it's cracked up to be.
Speaker 11: If that type of the soldiers they said, they don't
Speaker 11: want to fight for Zelensky. They don't They called it
Speaker 11: the regime. They don't want to fight for him. And
Speaker 11: I asked them, you know how this is? This is
Speaker 11: your opinion, of course, you know the group tier, but
Speaker 11: what about the rest of the Ukrainians. How do they
Speaker 11: feel about this, and they said, no one wants to
Speaker 11: fight for Zelenski.
Speaker 8: No one sees him as legitimate.
Speaker 11: They all think that he's an illegitimate ruler who's been
Speaker 11: propped up in place and is basically a dictator at
Speaker 11: this point. And no Ukrainians want this war to continue.
Speaker 11: They all want it to end.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Well, I am interested in whether or not that is
Speaker 1: a similarly held view in Russia.
Speaker 2: There are so many Russians who have died as a
Speaker 2: consequence of this war.
Speaker 1: You talked about the children, but even the Russians who
Speaker 1: have been, you know, pushed into the military, either by
Speaker 1: economic drive or some other feature, so many have died
Speaker 1: and that has to impact the towns and communities and
Speaker 1: families within Russia.
Speaker 2: What have you learned about that dynamic?
Speaker 11: Well, they're all the Russians that I've spoken with feel
Speaker 11: a patriotic calling to join this fight and to help
Speaker 11: bring the two countries together. The thing you have to
Speaker 11: understand is in the week that we spent down there
Speaker 11: in these areas that have been just decimated and the
Speaker 11: people who've lost their families, their homes, their lives, a
Speaker 11: place where you would expect to find a lot of
Speaker 11: hatred and animosity. There was none of that. Everyone I
Speaker 11: spoke to there was no hate whatsoever. There was simply
Speaker 11: a longing for peace. We went to a town very
Speaker 11: close to the front lines. I believe it was maybe
Speaker 11: ten kilometers fifteen kilometers from the front lines, and it
Speaker 11: has been shelled since twenty twenty two. This in the
Speaker 11: last three years, it has been hit one t thousand times.
Speaker 11: And that's when they started counting, was in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 11: That's when the Russians got to the area and they
Speaker 11: actually had like a system of governs where they could
Speaker 11: keep track of these things. Before then, there was no counting,
Speaker 11: so there's there's no way to know how bad it is,
Speaker 11: you know. We walked down a street where every building
Speaker 11: on the street was riddled with bullets and explosions, apartment
Speaker 11: buildings collapsed, falling apart, And we came to one area
Speaker 11: where the apartment building half of it was completely collapsed,
Speaker 11: is bombed out, and they were trying to fix it.
Speaker 11: The other half was partially ruined. But there was still
Speaker 11: a man living in that apartment building, and he came
Speaker 11: down the talk and he said that, you know, he's
Speaker 11: gotten used to life like this, and he was an
Speaker 11: old man, but he said he remember when it was,
Speaker 11: you know, there was peace. And I said, if you
Speaker 11: had a message for Americans, if you wanted Americans to
Speaker 11: know what you feel, and you wanted to send a
Speaker 11: message to our leaders, what would you tell them?
Speaker 8: And he said, please stop bombing us.
Speaker 11: He said, all we want is peace. That's all that
Speaker 11: we want. There was no hatred animals.
Speaker 8: He didn't say, oh you.
Speaker 11: American, you know how could you please stop bombing us?
Speaker 8: That's all that he wanted. And that's all any of
Speaker 8: the people that I talked you wanted.
Speaker 11: It's that's amazing to see what these people have been through.
Speaker 2: It's and it is.
Speaker 1: It is a part of this story that is that
Speaker 1: has been untold. And that's why I'm so excited when
Speaker 1: you get back and really assemble this in a full,
Speaker 1: sharp report, it's going to be an incredible piece of journalism. Pearson,
Speaker 1: After you've been there on the ground, interacting with people
Speaker 1: from Russia, from Ukraine, seeing this from from different experiences,
Speaker 1: do you have any better sense of how this is
Speaker 1: all going to end?
Speaker 8: That's a great question.
Speaker 11: I really have a lot of hope in what President
Speaker 11: Trump is doing. I think that he has the best
Speaker 11: of intentions, and I hope that we can find a
Speaker 11: diplomatic way to end this. We asked one of the soldiers,
Speaker 11: one of the Ukrainian soldiers who was fighting for Russia,
Speaker 11: if you know he was hopeful for a day when
Speaker 11: they could march into Ukraine, into Kiev and take the streets,
Speaker 11: and he said, I'm hopeful that we'll have peace before them.
Speaker 8: I'm hopeful we never get there, we never have to
Speaker 8: get there.
Speaker 11: And I think that's the mentality here is they're fighting
Speaker 11: for freedom. They're not fighting because they hate Ukrainians. They
Speaker 11: think that what's happening is wrong, and they're trying to
Speaker 11: free their homes. And I have to point out that
Speaker 11: every single person in Donbas that I talked to, every
Speaker 11: single one, and this is the part that Ukraine's does
Speaker 11: belongs to them. Every single one said, we are Russian,
Speaker 11: we are part of Russia. This is our home, this
Speaker 11: is our culture. And they said they felt liberated when
Speaker 11: President Putin came in and Russia took back that territory.
Speaker 11: They felt liberated from Vilenski, from the Ukrainian regime. They
Speaker 11: did not want any part of it. So I think
Speaker 11: that's something that the world needs to know and needs
Speaker 11: to hear from these people. This is not me saying this,
Speaker 11: this is me telling, but the people living there are
Speaker 11: saying and what they want, and that has to be considered.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we cannot wait to hear those stories directly as
Speaker 1: the consequence of your fearless journalism and in days and
Speaker 1: weeks when we're all trying to find a little more
Speaker 1: courage to go out there and tell the truth about
Speaker 1: things in the country and in the world. It is
Speaker 1: an incredible moment of pride for One American News to
Speaker 1: have you collecting this important information telling these stories. Pearson Sharp,
Speaker 1: the host of The Sharp Report on One American News,
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 2: Stay safe, my friend, and we'll be checking in soon.
Speaker 8: Thanks Matt.
Speaker 1: And coming up, we will explore the matter of cloud seating.
Speaker 2: It's actually real.
Speaker 1: Congress held a hearing on it and we've got the
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Speaker 1: Have caught it, but a little known Doge subcommittee held
Speaker 1: hearing on a topic that has been shrouded in conspiracy
Speaker 1: for decades, weather modification. A recurring topic was a weather
Speaker 1: modification technique called cloud seating, where rainfall is artificially induced
Speaker 1: or created by releasing small amounts of chemicals into the air.
Speaker 2: Take a listen, but.
Speaker 12: With respect specifically to weather modification, whether it's cloud seating
Speaker 12: or other technologies, I actually agree with many of the
Speaker 12: assertions about the need for further discussion for their science
Speaker 12: and potentially further regulation of these particular technologies.
Speaker 13: Cloud seating, while it may occur, it's probably not occurring
Speaker 13: as often as people think because it's its effects are
Speaker 13: unknown or not certain. And then in addition, it only
Speaker 13: has affects a small region.
Speaker 2: Would you both agree with that?
Speaker 1: Yes, Despite the long track record of experience with operational
Speaker 1: weather modification activities.
Speaker 13: The effectiveness of weather modifying activities for actually modifying the
Speaker 13: weather is unknown.
Speaker 1: By all appearances, Washington reached a rare bipartisan consensus. Scientists
Speaker 1: don't have a great deal of understanding of cloud seating's
Speaker 1: effectiveness or its impact on soil and air quality. So
Speaker 1: it's another vain attempt, maybe by men to play god.
Speaker 1: Or maybe it's actually expanding much needed access to fresh water.
Speaker 1: I don't really know, but history does give us a
Speaker 1: bit of a mixed answer. We've used cloud seating to
Speaker 1: try to stop hurricanes, increase snowfall at ski resorts, and
Speaker 1: even flood Vietcong tunnels, almost all of which produced very
Speaker 1: unclear results. But proponents say this could remedy droughts, it
Speaker 1: could prevent crop failures in America's dry Western states. Here's
Speaker 1: rainmaker CEO Augustus de Rico explaining his motivation for trying
Speaker 1: to change the weather.
Speaker 14: Our forests and cities are on fire because we we
Speaker 14: don't have enough water. Our crops and harvests are failing
Speaker 14: because we don't have enough water. Ecosystems throughout the US
Speaker 14: are collapsing because they don't have enough water. I'm going
Speaker 14: to the Great Salt Lake tomorrow. Google what the Great
Speaker 14: Salt Lake looks like. It could dry up entirely over
Speaker 14: the course of the next decade. What we wants, what
Speaker 14: we think everybody in the country wants, is a future
Speaker 14: where we have enough water for our forests to be green,
Speaker 14: for our farms to be lush, and for kids to
Speaker 14: grow up swimming in the lakes that their parents did.
Speaker 1: Augustus de Urrico joins us now to tell us more
Speaker 1: about cloud seating. So let's start with this question, where
Speaker 1: do the chemicals come from that you're using to seed clouds?
Speaker 14: Yeah, happily we use silveridid, which is the same material
Speaker 14: that Americans have been cloud seating with for the last
Speaker 14: eighty years when we invented the technology, and it's manufactured
Speaker 14: in Utah and Spain.
Speaker 1: And what does a world of like fully optimized cloud
Speaker 1: seating look like.
Speaker 14: Yeah, we're a long ways away from fully optimized cloud
Speaker 14: seating in terms of the maximum amount of water that
Speaker 14: we can produce. What we know right now is that
Speaker 14: we have a historic low amounts of water in the
Speaker 14: Colorado River, in the Great Salt Lake, and farms throughout
Speaker 14: the country, and Resultantly, municipal governments and states are banning
Speaker 14: people from watering their lawns.
Speaker 15: Farms are running dry.
Speaker 14: Our first priority at rain Maker is to get America
Speaker 14: back to where it used to be in terms of
Speaker 14: water supply, allow our farmers to continue farming where they've
Speaker 14: been able to for the last one hundred years.
Speaker 15: In the distant future, what my hope is is that
Speaker 15: we have.
Speaker 14: A more green, abundant and lush country than we've ever
Speaker 14: had before.
Speaker 1: And if you are seating clouds, like from a specific point,
Speaker 1: what is the breadth of geography that could potentially be impacted.
Speaker 14: Yeah, so cloud seating affects individual watersheds, right, so you
Speaker 14: can think about county wide areas. It's not global climate modification.
Speaker 14: It's not dimming out the sun to cool the planet down.
Speaker 14: Cloud seating again, it was invented in the United States
Speaker 14: eighty years ago, and the function of it is to
Speaker 14: enhance precipitation for an individual watershed like that of the
Speaker 14: Great Salt Lake, like a county in California, for example,
Speaker 14: like a county in Utah or Colorado or Idaho. And
Speaker 14: so the effects is hundreds of square kilometers at a time,
Speaker 14: hundreds of square miles at a time, and it occurs
Speaker 14: over the course of hours. If at any point you
Speaker 14: don't like the effects of cloud seating, you don't want
Speaker 14: more water, then you can turn it off and there's
Speaker 14: no long term consequence.
Speaker 1: Who are your clients typically who are paying for cloud
Speaker 1: seating today?
Speaker 14: Yeah, there's a spread of different customers between the municipal
Speaker 14: public works departments, the departments of Natural Resources at state levels,
Speaker 14: the departments of agriculture at state levels, and then individual farms,
Speaker 14: ski resorts, and hydroelectric utilities.
Speaker 15: Ultimately, people that want water, want more water for.
Speaker 14: Their constituents are the natural customer for cloud seating because
Speaker 14: it's one of the cheapest and only ways to produce
Speaker 14: more in the interior of the country where desalination is
Speaker 14: not available.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people will watch this and
Speaker 1: not have great familiarity with the tech, and they'll wonder
Speaker 1: what testing you're doing to ensure that there's not any
Speaker 1: contaminant to the water of the air.
Speaker 2: What does your current testing portfolio look like.
Speaker 14: Yeah, so I'm happy to answer that and we'll just moment.
Speaker 14: The first thing that I'll say, though, is that this
Speaker 14: technology was invented in the United States eighty years ago.
Speaker 14: We have eighty years of data on the ecological safety
Speaker 14: of cloud seating, on the downwind effects on precipitation from
Speaker 14: cloud seating, and resoundingly what we found is, whether you're
Speaker 14: using silver iodide or salt, the amount of material that
Speaker 14: you're using is a million times less after decades of
Speaker 14: operation than the natural amount.
Speaker 15: Of silver species in the soil.
Speaker 14: It's still about ten thousand times less than the lowest
Speaker 14: toxological threshold for freshwater bacteria or any other biota or
Speaker 14: fish or wildlife. What Rainmaker's doing in this upcoming season,
Speaker 14: either in our programs in Utah or Idaho or otherwise
Speaker 14: is snow water and soil sampling, just to prove the hypothesis,
Speaker 14: just to prove that the amount of silver iodide that's
Speaker 14: being added to the environments where we're operating is so
Speaker 14: diminimously low that it's not only almost undetectable, but it
Speaker 14: has no adverse ecological implications.
Speaker 2: And what about air quality?
Speaker 14: Yeah, fact there, the simple the fact of the matter, right,
Speaker 14: is that if you're using about fifty grams of silver
Speaker 14: eydide in an operation for thirty minutes, over one hundred thousand,
Speaker 14: one hundred thousand acres let alone one hundred square miles.
Speaker 15: That's essentially like a burpsworth of silver.
Speaker 14: Iodide that is so diffuse that it has no impact
Speaker 14: on air quality whatsoever, if anything. In fact, the precipitation
Speaker 14: induced by air quality can remove particulate from the air
Speaker 14: that does cause respiratory issues, and we see that in
Speaker 14: India and countries like China. They're deploying this tech to
Speaker 14: clean the air in regions where people are developing either
Speaker 14: cancer or asthma from pollutants.
Speaker 15: And if you look at.
Speaker 14: The Great Lake, as that lakebed dries more and more arsenic,
Speaker 14: more and more particulate is getting kicked up, and people
Speaker 14: are getting adverse respiratory outcomes from that particulate. So cloud
Speaker 14: seating not only can it reduce the amount of particulate
Speaker 14: coming up from a drying lake by bringing water back
Speaker 14: to it, but the precipitation can actually take air pollution
Speaker 14: out of the air.
Speaker 1: Final question for you, do you think there should be
Speaker 1: national policy on cloud seating or is this something states
Speaker 1: can regulate themselves.
Speaker 14: This technology is going to benefit everybody in the United States,
Speaker 14: and the more people know about it and the more
Speaker 14: good faith conversations we get to have about it. The
Speaker 14: more people I've found get excited about the prospect of
Speaker 14: having more water, of having more abundant farms, of being
Speaker 14: able to swim in the lakes and the rivers that
Speaker 14: they've always been able to. I totally understand and totally
Speaker 14: sympathize with the questions that people have about cloud seating
Speaker 14: and an actively asking for for the sake of trust
Speaker 14: and transparency and preventing rogue or foreign actors from viciously
Speaker 14: modifying the weather. I'm actively asking the federal government for
Speaker 14: more clear reporting, stricter rules on what materials you're allowed
Speaker 14: to use, and then also a regulatory framework with liability
Speaker 14: so if somebody does cause some sort of problem, then
Speaker 14: they can be held to account.
Speaker 1: Augusta Storico, the CEO of Rainmaker, appreciate you coming on
Speaker 1: the program and sharing your expertise.
Speaker 15: Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Matt.
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