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Speaker 2: four nine five nine three six. Happy crabgrass season crabgrass. Yes,
Speaker 2: I got a crop for you, buddy.
Speaker 3: How tall is cra well?
Speaker 2: I'm starting to see you get back home from vacation.
Speaker 2: Time to get it before that happened.
Speaker 3: I know, I've ran into some of the toughest crabgrass
Speaker 3: in my place. It'll bend your blades. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: I love this weather. Some people actually call it waters
Speaker 3: water crabgrass, but it's when it gets to that point. Uh,
Speaker 3: the herbicides just won't work.
Speaker 1: No, it's it's it's that will work.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: Is a claw hammer?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Pickax? How big it is?
Speaker 3: I got craggrass the size of redwood redwood trees. Oh
Speaker 3: my goodness, you can cut it up and make lumber
Speaker 3: out of them.
Speaker 1: Anyway, that's not a good thing for here.
Speaker 3: Typically we're running into a lot of dry weather and
Speaker 3: you know, I've cactus screwing in my front yard. But
Speaker 3: this year things are looking pretty good.
Speaker 1: They are.
Speaker 3: We've had some makeup rain from last year. We've already
Speaker 3: reached our amount of rain almost till the end.
Speaker 1: Of the year. You were showing me back graft. That
Speaker 1: was impressive.
Speaker 3: We've had thirty one point seven inches of rain so far,
Speaker 3: and typically we have forty. So they're going to have
Speaker 3: to the Weather Department's going to have to make a
Speaker 3: bigger chart. Probably. Yeah, we'll see what happens. Actually, I've
Speaker 3: had experiences where it's we've had wall clouds come in
Speaker 3: on July the fourth.
Speaker 1: I bet we have in the past.
Speaker 3: Back in the eighties and nineties.
Speaker 1: Do we have some politility back then? Is that what
Speaker 1: you're saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we still do. I mean that still happened.
Speaker 3: The weather's cyclical and it's unpredictable. So yeah, anyway, we
Speaker 3: would take all we can get.
Speaker 1: We will.
Speaker 2: I don't want to have anything like I was seeing
Speaker 2: a few years ago where the fish will hit track
Speaker 2: into the next pond because you're breaking out of water.
Speaker 5: Catch me, please, trying to fight and chance with you.
Speaker 3: Try not to, however, over water your tomatoes and try
Speaker 3: not to. People who are watering the grass every single
Speaker 3: day haven't water mine yet, and it looks great. So
Speaker 3: that's a terrible waste of water. So you don't if
Speaker 3: you don't need to, don't. I mean it's that does
Speaker 3: is it makes your grass dependent on that shallow water.
Speaker 1: It does, and.
Speaker 3: When the time gets rough, they don't have the deep roots,
Speaker 3: and it's like, uh, you know, like being on a
Speaker 3: drug or something. They just can't survive a drought. You know,
Speaker 3: we need to when you do water, let the ground
Speaker 3: dry out between watering. This is a simple thing. Just
Speaker 3: look look down in there and put your finger on
Speaker 3: the ground. If you raise a kid, you know. But anyway,
Speaker 3: see if it's wet down there, and if it's wet,
Speaker 3: don't water yeah, easy. That Typically you get take your
Speaker 3: wife's nine by thirteen pain and put it out in
Speaker 3: the yard and run your sprinkler for a while, and
Speaker 3: when you get to get it to one inch, that's
Speaker 3: how much time it takes to water though the whole
Speaker 3: yard on a weekly period. So typically about an inch
Speaker 3: a week is its adequate brain for our needs around
Speaker 3: in here.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 3: So, and we've had that really so grounds and got
Speaker 3: to lead. The trees are doing great.
Speaker 1: The trees look wonderful.
Speaker 3: Those that survived the past year's droughts. Yeah, I pulled
Speaker 3: up the trucks from the Weather Service and it's been
Speaker 3: three years in a row. We've been stuck in a
Speaker 3: dry situation. And this is cyclical if you go back
Speaker 3: way back in time patterns. Yeah, yeah, you look at it.
Speaker 3: It's a cycle that comes and goes. So it's just
Speaker 3: a natural thing. So don't worry about it. Just prepare
Speaker 3: for it, right right, So, trying not to overwater your
Speaker 3: tomatoes at this point, they're cracking the heat.
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you what made tomatoes do that?
Speaker 3: Now I know it's the Typically the skin when the
Speaker 3: water comes in, they ripen the the water in there
Speaker 3: soaks up the water and it breaks the breaks the skin.
Speaker 3: So if you do have a situation where your tomatoes
Speaker 3: crack a lot, you might want to pick them as
Speaker 3: they turn peak and then bring them in the house
Speaker 3: with them, ripe it in the house. Very good idea,
Speaker 3: So that way, at least you won't have a little
Speaker 3: little critters in.
Speaker 2: Your I used to see those things about as big
Speaker 2: as your fist, and then they would start to crack,
Speaker 2: and the you know, we'd have to run into the
Speaker 2: garden because somebody saw a crack and just pull them out,
Speaker 2: you know quick, you know, before they start pick them, Yeah,
Speaker 2: pick them, bring him in, put them in the window,
Speaker 2: Put them in the window.
Speaker 1: Still right.
Speaker 3: So anyway, so that's kind of it. With the tomatoes.
Speaker 3: I'd be sure to keep a steady fertilizer on them.
Speaker 3: Don't try to overdo it, no, just just a good
Speaker 3: steady flow use a you know, Tremertle Vitaler tomato fertilizer.
Speaker 6: There you go, phanetic food pot there, just having an
Speaker 6: issue there. Get to that for a lie as as
Speaker 6: recommended on the package of the okay okay, also time
Speaker 6: to in the in the in the garden.
Speaker 3: Time to plant okram, so it'll be ready to go.
Speaker 3: And Oka likes it's hot.
Speaker 1: I heard her say that on TV. No O crah o.
Speaker 3: Cra Yeah, your crap there, you just find Okay, the
Speaker 3: roses are slowing down a little bit. Hydrants are slowing
Speaker 3: down also a little bit. It's the latest time right
Speaker 3: now to cut back to dogwood trees. They're going to
Speaker 3: begin differentiating the days are what is summer solstice? Anyway,
Speaker 3: we're there, huh, we're there over there now, Okay, these
Speaker 3: aids are going to start getting a little bit shorter,
Speaker 3: and that's their signal to go ahead and initiate blooms.
Speaker 3: So you if you haven't prune back, and if you
Speaker 3: do want to prune back your dogwood trees and your
Speaker 3: zellios and other things like that to bloom this ring lightlacs, etcetera, etcetera. Uh,
Speaker 3: get away along because they're going to start differentiating based
Speaker 3: on the length of day. So as they shortened, uh,
Speaker 3: they get that signal to put on bloom. So uh,
Speaker 3: the wisteria buyings the same thing. It sets booms. The
Speaker 3: booms are set in the fall and then when the
Speaker 3: spring comes.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: Hey, getting back to roses, kind of go ahead knockout roses.
Speaker 2: I've seen some of them start to turn pinkish sh
Speaker 2: bang red, you know, yeah, is not a sign that's
Speaker 2: not doing well.
Speaker 3: It's probably either rosette disease or excessive water.
Speaker 1: I'm going with excessive water.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The rosette disease, which is a problem that people
Speaker 3: a few years ago outs at the house too Thursday.
Speaker 3: They had had it real bad on their knockouts. And
Speaker 3: if it's typically associated with very closely related and numerous
Speaker 3: uh thorns, and the flowers get all distorted and actually
Speaker 3: they get a little bit of a little bit pinky
Speaker 3: too when that happens. Okay, so your leaves get distorted,
Speaker 3: the tips get burned, and that's typically typical of Rosette's disease,
Speaker 3: which came a while back, and it's spread by mikes.
Speaker 3: So I don't have it on my knockout road, of.
Speaker 1: Course you don't. You do nothing to yours. They just
Speaker 1: magically they just grow.
Speaker 3: But anyway, they're planting on the north side of the
Speaker 3: house away from mine on the south, and there's a
Speaker 3: vegetation between it and the rock on the house. So's
Speaker 3: it's in any microclimate that the mics really don't prosper
Speaker 3: very well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, mine's right there on the southwest, right in the heat, so.
Speaker 3: That, yeah, you'll you'll probably have them if you haven't yet.
Speaker 3: They probably hopefully that this disease will run its course
Speaker 3: and then there will be a problem anymore. We can
Speaker 3: grow some really nat rods is again, but kay, the
Speaker 3: knockouts can't beat big old plants. They are nice and
Speaker 3: just covered in blue booms and just boom like they're
Speaker 3: all the same color. But they're coming out with some
Speaker 3: different colors that there's a pink one and a yellow
Speaker 3: knockout and a white one. It's called white out, believe
Speaker 3: it or not. A man yeah white yeah that. But anyways,
Speaker 3: so you want to kind of keep them fertilized to
Speaker 3: on a regular basis. To add, with all this rain,
Speaker 3: it's kind of washed away some stuff, so it might
Speaker 3: be malnutriented due to just the fertilizer washing out of
Speaker 3: the soil utilized by crabgrass.
Speaker 1: So in your case, crab grass turned into a mouture.
Speaker 3: And when your fertilizer, your roses don't use a high
Speaker 3: nitrogen use ten twenty ten or something like that that's
Speaker 3: thick or just get some rose fertilizer. Very simple, it's
Speaker 3: all the work for you.
Speaker 1: It'll diffuse nicely.
Speaker 3: It's right now. Also is the latest time for the
Speaker 3: fertilizer operation applications on azalias. This is the last one
Speaker 3: to do. They're going to be initiating blooms pretty soon too.
Speaker 3: And you don't want a whole lot of top growth
Speaker 3: at this point. You want to kind of slow down
Speaker 3: a little bit. So something with a fairly low nitrogen level.
Speaker 3: Your jalies and look at the leaf size of the
Speaker 3: rxalis that the leaves are really kind of small. Senses
Speaker 3: are your pH is too high, So you get somen
Speaker 3: with some salts in it or some iron salfate on
Speaker 3: them or something to lower try to lower that pH.
Speaker 3: Because they they're not native to this area. Alias or
Speaker 3: what we call ericaceous, and that covers that term covers
Speaker 3: a broad spectrum of plant cetera, acid requiring azalias and
Speaker 3: rhododendrons and et cetera. Et cetera, like a require an
Speaker 3: acid soil.
Speaker 1: Got it.
Speaker 3: They come from the Orient and they have a lot
Speaker 3: of volcanic foil there and that that's why they're kind
Speaker 3: of suited to that. Gotcha, up on Circle Mountain, though,
Speaker 3: we do have some situations where the soil is somewhat
Speaker 3: acid and these values do bid. I see some lawns
Speaker 3: over their beautiful jailias, but some of them, some of
Speaker 3: them around around town, just don't do as well because
Speaker 3: we have a limestone based soil.
Speaker 1: I've seen those. Yeah, I think maybe at my house.
Speaker 3: So I don't have any values in my house.
Speaker 1: Well, I've learned my lessons that Rhode todendron they don't work.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, there are. Actually I have a customer who
Speaker 3: has a rotor dinner in her backyard in an elevated
Speaker 3: bed that shielded from the afternoon sun by a pergola thing.
Speaker 1: And it's lucky her, but it still has a little
Speaker 1: bit of.
Speaker 3: Stamp virus in it. But I told her to slow
Speaker 3: down on the watering and hopefully it'll do better.
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Speaker 2: Good morning, and welcome to the Green Country Gardener Program.
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Speaker 2: Tom Davis. Where are we now on the program?
Speaker 1: Larry, Well, we were.
Speaker 3: Talking about the weather and how it's affecting things and
Speaker 3: now this year I noticed a lot of the scale
Speaker 3: insects are a little late, but you do need to
Speaker 3: inspect your plants for those. And actually I've found some
Speaker 3: clean crape myrtles here and there. Typically they're not associated
Speaker 3: with the war with the worm spot and mine at
Speaker 3: home don't seem to have too many of them scale
Speaker 3: insects either.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 3: The scale insect also is spreading across the board into
Speaker 3: the uanamous family, specifically burning bush and Manhattan euana us.
Speaker 3: So you want to watch for that too.
Speaker 2: How do I know if I have scale, Well, it's
Speaker 2: a little dark, and it's kind of slimy.
Speaker 3: It's a real small imagine a overcooked fried egg stuck
Speaker 3: to the stem, very small though, about as big as
Speaker 3: the head of a pin or something. And what they
Speaker 3: do is they cling themselves to the tree and they
Speaker 3: draw juices out of the plant. Then they take that
Speaker 3: juice and do whatever they do with it, and then
Speaker 3: they poop it out, if you will, along with eggs,
Speaker 3: along with ants. Like that syrupy stuff they put out,
Speaker 3: and that's good. They walk through it, and them and
Speaker 3: Fred and Ethel and George also walk through that. Ants
Speaker 3: walk through that slimy stuff and they carry it around.
Speaker 3: And that's why there's one reason why the spacing on
Speaker 3: them is fairly uniform too. Just by the the ant
Speaker 3: has six legs, and that one leg is the same distance. Yea,
Speaker 3: So watch out on your oak trees. I was at
Speaker 3: a customer's house earlier this year, and they had terrible
Speaker 3: problem with scale on their oaks. I wonder why they're
Speaker 3: not growing fast. Well, they're they're being stressed out from
Speaker 3: the scale insects. Then about two weeks ago went to
Speaker 3: their house and we looked at it and the scale.
Speaker 3: They put the amidle clo prid down the tree, drew
Speaker 3: it up and then, uh, the scales are still there,
Speaker 3: but they're they're not alive. Knocked them out and the
Speaker 3: tree is actually having a second flush.
Speaker 1: Good.
Speaker 3: So yeah, crape myrtle's burning bush uanymous And actually a
Speaker 3: lot of other plants are starting to get affected by
Speaker 3: them as they kind of changed their diet habits, I guess,
Speaker 3: so watch out for those. They're pretty bad things, okay, they,
Speaker 3: like I said, the amid clo prid is at this
Speaker 3: point is a good control, while the dormant In the
Speaker 3: winter dormant oil works real well. But you don't want
Speaker 3: to use dormant oil when it's hot. Yeah, leaves all
Speaker 3: dry up flow lace. So timing is very important on
Speaker 3: that too. So at the nursery, golly, we got all
Speaker 3: kinds of container and bald bird out trees can be
Speaker 3: planning just about new time, just don't want to move them.
Speaker 3: Hawsters are doing very well. They're starting to bloom a
Speaker 3: little bit. Encore as there's putting on As is putting
Speaker 3: on some flowers here and there, and I began to
Speaker 3: show some budswell opening up to colb. Flowers are showing
Speaker 3: some color. Harder high Biscuits is growing aggressively and then
Speaker 3: beginning to bloom. Hardy high Biscuits is a pretty cool plant.
Speaker 1: It gets big, the name hardy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have heard my house in the bed and
Speaker 3: they're six feet tall, and you're starting to bloom right now.
Speaker 3: But they need they get tall. So but I tried
Speaker 3: on one of them, I tried cutting it back and
Speaker 3: it actually increased the branching while it was young. Maybe
Speaker 3: more branches coming out, so we'll have more blooms. So
Speaker 3: but they will form eventually a kind of a V
Speaker 3: shaped cluster of stems or clump, if you will, And
Speaker 3: they bloom for a pretty long period of time, and
Speaker 3: in the summer. I wouldn't make a big deal of
Speaker 3: their composition. I mean, in your composition, you know, an
Speaker 3: entire entire composition of these plants, because they're going to
Speaker 3: bloom for a short period of time, so you put
Speaker 3: them here and there to give you some seasonal interest. Yeah.
Speaker 3: They associate real well with with rows of Sharon, which
Speaker 3: is actually related. So and the roads of Sharon are
Speaker 3: in full bloom right now too.
Speaker 1: I see how you work in it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so.
Speaker 1: The mesage to your madness.
Speaker 3: So the crape myrtles are starting to starting to make
Speaker 3: some show. Some of the earlier blooming ones are blooming
Speaker 3: right now. And yeah, some a purple ones in the
Speaker 3: landscape too. I'm working on a plan for somebody and
Speaker 3: they wanted something purple on the west side of the house.
Speaker 3: I said, well, I really wouldn't go with the little
Speaker 3: Japanese maple. No, it'll turn into post hostis in no time.
Speaker 3: So let's think about maybe a purple leaf crape and
Speaker 3: a dwarf too, and that'll give you that purple color.
Speaker 3: There's also nine bark, which is one two, but it's
Speaker 3: it's very irregular in this growth habit and in this situation,
Speaker 3: it wouldn't work because it's porky growth, you know. And
Speaker 3: they just don't make a good form. I mean, they're
Speaker 3: pretty well when they bloom, they're nice, and the purple
Speaker 3: leaves are nice too, and They take the sun real well,
Speaker 3: and we've used them on very successfully on some landscapes
Speaker 3: when you allow it to get fairly large, and the
Speaker 3: blooms all kind of show you on them too. But anyway,
Speaker 3: so something purple like that would work. It's fine. There's
Speaker 3: also a dwarf purple leaf plum, but they get so
Speaker 3: full of bugs and disease and boards and stuff, but
Speaker 3: it's not worth it at all. But probably one of
Speaker 3: the better purplely plants on the Wist side is barbary
Speaker 3: well really yeah, and thorns, but no, really, you really
Speaker 3: only have to do anything with your barberies maybe once
Speaker 3: a year in the spring, just cut them back a
Speaker 3: little bit. People let them get too big and about
Speaker 3: middle February early early March they need to be cut
Speaker 3: back rather sternly. And my neighbor across the street did
Speaker 3: that and they're beautiful and he doesn't do anything to them.
Speaker 3: You know, some pleasure gloves you know in winter, and
Speaker 3: the thorns aren't that bad on them.
Speaker 2: If you got a rose bush, I think it'll be Okays.
Speaker 3: Are worse, really, But the barbary is takes our heat
Speaker 3: and it doesn't get the diseases we have here and
Speaker 3: so on so on. So for some purple color you
Speaker 3: might consider that good. Okay, we'll do our tree this
Speaker 3: week is a little gym magnolia. The little gym is
Speaker 3: a smaller version of the regular magnolia treetch. But however
Speaker 3: it stays small because it has a shorter node between
Speaker 3: the stems and the leaves. A node is a link
Speaker 3: between the stem it branches out, or the distance between
Speaker 3: the leaves. On the planet too, it thinks it's hey,
Speaker 3: I'm a two hundred foot magnolia. I'm big and tall.
Speaker 3: But no, no, it gets about ten or twelve feet tall.
Speaker 3: So if you do want to magnolia or something, it
Speaker 3: doesn't get us tall. Over here on the notes that
Speaker 3: says gets up to forty feet forty by thirty feet.
Speaker 3: But not in Oklahoma, No, no, not at all. One
Speaker 3: thing about the magnolia tree is this, we planted something
Speaker 3: for somebody and they said, you don't want to trend
Speaker 3: them from the ground up. You don't know, And so
Speaker 3: why is that? Because every single day they drop something,
Speaker 3: They drop leaves. They're done with their leaf, drop in
Speaker 3: the string. Then they around the leaf. They have a
Speaker 3: sheath that falls off when the flowers come out. They
Speaker 3: have a sheath that falls off the blooms, the bloom
Speaker 3: fold bud. So there's also stuff, a lot of stuff
Speaker 3: below them, So you want to make that just a
Speaker 3: surface where all that's stuck and decomposed and go back
Speaker 3: into the soil. Also act as the mults. So when
Speaker 3: you're planting magnolia trees, planting is this is what one
Speaker 3: of my college professors said. It's so funny, like southern
Speaker 3: bells dancing across the yard. You know, those big dresses.
Speaker 3: So they that's kind of how you want to do
Speaker 3: your magnolia trees. Don't get them close to the house.
Speaker 3: Keep them twenty feet away from the sidewalk or the
Speaker 3: driveway and twenty thirty feet from the house. They grow
Speaker 3: to be a really nice big plant.
Speaker 1: That's all you say they get. Huh, how do all
Speaker 1: do you say they get?
Speaker 3: They can get up to forty one hundred fifty fifty
Speaker 3: feet around. Okay, pretty good, thie, and a little gym
Speaker 3: is a smaller plant than that, so okay, very good. Anyway,
Speaker 3: I mentioned that because they're blooming and they look good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they look good, folks.
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Speaker 3: Larry Well, yeah, we're oh yeah, there's a little well,
Speaker 3: it kind of went away. But let's talk a little
Speaker 3: bit about cone flowers.
Speaker 1: Let's do that.
Speaker 3: Echinacea is a cone flower and it's a hearty perennial
Speaker 3: here if where snake wret comes from. And it does
Speaker 3: quite well in our climate. Of course, this one loves
Speaker 3: the heat, but kind of within limits too, you know,
Speaker 3: to go so far.
Speaker 1: Like one hundred and four and then it starts to
Speaker 1: wilt a little bit.
Speaker 3: About at about one hundred and twenty degrees. It kind
Speaker 3: of will little.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Anyway, the available in colors from white to yellow, orange
Speaker 3: and red to purple. They boom for a fairly long
Speaker 3: period of time in the summer. But they do like
Speaker 3: well drained soil and a wide open situation. And I
Speaker 3: like to use them in a composition where there's just
Speaker 3: not a bunch of them, just you will get a
Speaker 3: bunch of them eventually kind of doum, just kind of
Speaker 3: dotum around a little bit. Give them some room to grow,
Speaker 3: because you'll they will be joining hands in no time.
Speaker 3: They read received. The sells very well, they do, and
Speaker 3: sometimes you get some variations in the color too.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 3: Anyway, we have met the nursery and it's a big
Speaker 3: color kind of rainbow colors, some white, yellow, orange, red, purple.
Speaker 3: The stock option, of course, there's kind of a lavender
Speaker 3: purple is sort of color.
Speaker 1: And they.
Speaker 3: They do quite well here because they're native to the area.
Speaker 3: If you have to on the roadside, you see them
Speaker 3: all over the place. They're a really really good plant. Actually,
Speaker 3: so you might consider some cone flowers to be prepared
Speaker 3: for them to have seeds come up everywhere and make
Speaker 3: little cone flowers all over the place, so some thinning
Speaker 3: is necessary, and they can makes good early Christmas gifts
Speaker 3: for somebody. Do you have my cone flowers? You can
Speaker 3: have some. So anyway, they're a really good plant. I
Speaker 3: like them in the landscape, has some of my house,
Speaker 3: and most people I do know really kind of like
Speaker 3: them too. They seem to be very resistant to diseases,
Speaker 3: insects and everything and just tolerate to heat very well.
Speaker 1: Good.
Speaker 3: Okay, so hard to have. Biscuits are kind of the
Speaker 3: same way. I think we talked about them earlier. Anyway,
Speaker 3: planning your landscape, that's kind of important thing. Kind of
Speaker 3: know what's going to happen when on your landscape. That's
Speaker 3: something we do. We go to your house and take
Speaker 3: some measurements, and I take a lot of pictures too,
Speaker 3: and basically build build a house virtually with the landscape
Speaker 3: around it, and get get the measures measurements really close
Speaker 3: and then come up with with an idea. And once
Speaker 3: you get the base information down you can work with
Speaker 3: some which there are no variables in the equation when
Speaker 3: it comes to base base information is there set, but
Speaker 3: there are some in the landscape type. So when you
Speaker 3: do I want us to come out and give you
Speaker 3: a landscape planning. I kind of need to know what
Speaker 3: are you looking for, what you need? What is your
Speaker 3: vision of the landscape, I mean, and then then I
Speaker 3: can interpolate that and assign different shrubs and shape and
Speaker 3: elevations and stuff like that to make the landscape do
Speaker 3: what you wanted to do. Okay, one thing you have
Speaker 3: to consider it. I ran into this this week also
Speaker 3: is at a kind of an elderly couple. It must
Speaker 3: have been sixty five. Hey, shut out, you're.
Speaker 1: Older now, Hey both of us are older.
Speaker 3: No, not really, but anyway, they overdid the landscape too
Speaker 3: too much.
Speaker 1: So they had like some kind of like a rainforest
Speaker 1: going on in there.
Speaker 3: It's just a whole lot of disassociated plants and overgrown
Speaker 3: stuff here and there, and it just looks And I
Speaker 3: know they spent a lot of money on it because
Speaker 3: a lot of plants, just too many plants put in there.
Speaker 3: They had it, they had done, somebody did it for them.
Speaker 3: But you need to use a little discretion on some
Speaker 3: of this and try not to overdo it and think,
Speaker 3: what's it gonna What is this landscape going to look
Speaker 3: like in ten years?
Speaker 1: What do you want it to accomplish? Where do you see? So?
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah, and this one, uh, the design who designed
Speaker 3: it that completely ignored the house.
Speaker 1: It's just basically they sold them a bunch of plants
Speaker 1: and cash.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just kind of threw them in the ground. And
Speaker 3: it's a it's a maintenance nightmare for them. And I'm
Speaker 3: trying to keep it as simple as possible, lurry glass
Speaker 3: law and rescue and reducing some of the square footage
Speaker 3: of the bed is just a whole lot of probably
Speaker 3: a quarter acre planter beds themselves. And when you get older,
Speaker 3: you just don't want to mess with that.
Speaker 2: So you like looking at it, you appreciate it being pretty,
Speaker 2: but it's like getting down on my knees. I made
Speaker 2: a commitment here.
Speaker 3: One of my thoughts is to keep it, keep it simple,
Speaker 3: so and also kind of envision Yeah the people, Yeah,
Speaker 3: they might be in their you know, thirties forties right now,
Speaker 3: but what's going to happen in you know, twenty years. Yeah,
Speaker 3: are they going to want to do that much work
Speaker 3: later on? I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm fond of it right now.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and then you know, and during the conversation
Speaker 3: and try to get information from them, but whether or
Speaker 3: not they really like to work out in the yard
Speaker 3: or they don't. And actually I made some converts credit converts.
Speaker 3: As far as I don't want to do a thing
Speaker 3: with this too, well, I kind of enjoyed this. So
Speaker 3: it just depends on where you are on the number one,
Speaker 3: the environment, number two the house style of the house
Speaker 3: and what do they want to do with the landscape.
Speaker 3: How big is it, how big are the beds all
Speaker 3: this other things? How much rooms are between the sidewalk
Speaker 3: and the house. Not only builders do that, you get
Speaker 3: but nine inches, dude, what are you going to plan that?
Speaker 1: Come on, you can't even move that without.
Speaker 3: You take the sidewalk and you put a little curve
Speaker 3: into it. You have some specimen plants that work with
Speaker 3: the landscape of the house, come up with a designer
Speaker 3: where it actually goes on the outside of the of
Speaker 3: the sidewalk, where it sort of curves around outside where
Speaker 3: is your imagination. You're kind of walking through the landscape
Speaker 3: rather than walking at it, if you will. And some
Speaker 3: people are kind of slow to accept that. They just
Speaker 3: see this boundary that they don't want to go past.
Speaker 3: So we try to break those boundaries. And then you
Speaker 3: know when it really kind of emphasized.
Speaker 1: The front door, it's your welcome spot.
Speaker 3: This one I went to this week, everything was kind
Speaker 3: of sort of overemphasized except the front door. O. Yeah,
Speaker 3: very odd. Yeah, so what do you know? So I'll
Speaker 3: probably present them a plan where we tear out all
Speaker 3: the concrete and make it more creative. But wish'll thinking
Speaker 3: that's what you would do, That's what I did in
Speaker 3: my house.
Speaker 1: You did do that, so you're speaking from experience.
Speaker 3: We'll come on over sledgehammer and I cut those stones.
Speaker 3: Actually with us a sledge hammer, you can go kind
Speaker 3: of linear thing and you have a what it used
Speaker 3: for retaining wall block.
Speaker 1: On the back.
Speaker 3: Really, yeah, you didn't waste anything, didn't waste anything. And
Speaker 3: and it turned some of them upside down and put
Speaker 3: some iron sulfate on them and some water and turned
Speaker 3: him into sandstone.
Speaker 5: Rocksh you go, so my boulders are artificial. But anyway,
Speaker 5: so did you do something like that out of the
Speaker 5: huge range? Yeah, actually liked it everything. Yes, it looks
Speaker 5: concrete column right by the back door. And the ground
Speaker 5: elevation was too high, the water was going towards the house.
Speaker 5: We rearranged all that so the water goes away.
Speaker 3: From the house. And and being so there's this ugly
Speaker 3: concrete thing, a chunk that was poured, like, what do
Speaker 3: we do with it? It took my grinder to it
Speaker 3: and kind of sculpted a little bit. And then you
Speaker 3: use the the iron sulfate on it and let it
Speaker 3: sit for a little while. And it took some hydrated
Speaker 3: line and sprinkled it here and there. It gave you
Speaker 3: some color verry.
Speaker 2: So it looks it looks it looks like a rock,
Speaker 2: looks like heame out of the ground exactly poured from
Speaker 2: some guy's truck.
Speaker 3: So sometimes when you get back in their corner yet
Speaker 3: to use the creativity.
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Speaker 3: Larry, Yeah, we're getting back to lawns. We touched a
Speaker 3: little bit on craggrass, and crabgrass is a warm season
Speaker 3: annual grass which grows best in the heat of midsummer. Boy,
Speaker 3: doesn't I see some people's lawns that are entirely crabgrass,
Speaker 3: and fine.
Speaker 1: This is great.
Speaker 3: If that's what you want, that's fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It overwinters as a seed comes up about mid May
Speaker 3: or later, so it's killed by the fall frost. Crab
Speaker 3: grass is not shade tolerant. It grows best in full sun.
Speaker 3: I have a big maple tree and a Chinese ustache
Speaker 3: under which there is no crabgras, and have a little
Speaker 3: bit in the front yard. I actually found something that
Speaker 3: kind of selectively removed it. But there's some extenuating circumstances
Speaker 3: you have to work around, so kind of run out
Speaker 3: of time. But anyway to help control the crabgrass, you
Speaker 3: want to use a pre emergent. You do that early
Speaker 3: in the spring, right, it'll take care of it.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: If if you want to get rid of handbit stuff
Speaker 3: like that that comes up in the spring. You do
Speaker 3: that in October. So a pre emergent urban side works
Speaker 3: pretty well too. Per Dieman's a good one to help
Speaker 3: stop the growth of crabgrass in the yard. And I
Speaker 3: didn't do that on my yard this year, unfortunately, because
Speaker 3: the last three years has been so dry. That's all
Speaker 3: I had. Yeah, that's not the trace this year, not
Speaker 3: not the shape, not the well anyway, it's not having
Speaker 3: this year. It has some really nice permetographs. So it
Speaker 3: and as time goes on, it's more difficult to control.
Speaker 3: So you might want to consider a law management program.
Speaker 3: Say we talked about long of pecan trees right now,
Speaker 3: conserve moisture, control weeds on your pecans, collect leaf samples
Speaker 3: if you have a problem with them. The extension agent
Speaker 3: can tell you if you got problems with your thing,
Speaker 3: soil drain and clean ditches and so. All the stuff
Speaker 3: is from the fact sheet. So anyway, if you're having
Speaker 3: trouble with your pecans bearing or anything, you might might
Speaker 3: consider a zinc And the zinc does a pretty good
Speaker 3: job of it's it's a trace element that the precontra
Speaker 3: and need to grow real well. But after all the
Speaker 3: rain this year, we I don't know how the crop's
Speaker 3: going to be. But anyway, so you want to if
Speaker 3: you do hapicons right now. It's not a whole lot
Speaker 3: to do with them right now. Just don't let them
Speaker 3: get too wet.
Speaker 1: Gotcha.
Speaker 3: I watch carefully for aphids and case bears and all
Speaker 3: the stuff. So the insects are coming in the spinners.
Speaker 3: Ad works pretty well to control a lot of wide
Speaker 3: variety of insects. So look at su pecontril close and
Speaker 3: look for little maybe little holes or if you see
Speaker 3: a spider web, black pain. Yeah, yeah, you want to
Speaker 3: control those two. Anyway. So there's time here, not allowed
Speaker 3: to talk about.
Speaker 2: Really, everything's either growing or burning up, depending on what
Speaker 2: kind of year we're happening.
Speaker 3: One thing, though, it's going to quit watering here pretty soon.
Speaker 3: It's gonna quit rainy, I mean pretty soon. So you
Speaker 3: want to of course, water properly. Water water is expensive. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you should get my water belts in nurthtry.
Speaker 1: My goodness, Oh i'd faint.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the grass will do much better if you
Speaker 3: have a drying out period between waterings. In other words,
Speaker 3: let it. I'm not saying let it wilth a little bit.
Speaker 3: But check the surface of the soil and see if
Speaker 3: it's drying and drying, drying out quickly or drying out slowly.
Speaker 3: And then when it gets fairly dry to the touch
Speaker 3: and gets a little dry on the surface, then your water. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but try to manage your watering like that and eventually
Speaker 3: you will develop a schedule. Basically, you just don't want
Speaker 3: to do every other day for twenty minutes each, No,
Speaker 3: you don't need to do that. You just need to
Speaker 3: do it when it's needed. Now, there are sprinter timers also.
Speaker 3: When we install these that connect to the weather Service
Speaker 3: and shut it down when it's going to rain, gotch
Speaker 3: and also when it gets through a windy it'll shut
Speaker 3: it down, et cetera, et cetera. So they're smart timers
Speaker 3: can run it. I'll set it my den and so
Speaker 3: my flowers need water and it'll water them.
Speaker 1: Hit me out a little.
Speaker 3: People people kind of like these. Some people are real
Speaker 3: tech savvy. They really enjoy that. And some people I
Speaker 3: don't want that.
Speaker 1: They don't want it at all.
Speaker 3: I don't want it at all.
Speaker 1: But they still work.
Speaker 3: It's just a regular timer, but it kind of knows
Speaker 3: when the weather's going to happen, and it's the whole
Speaker 3: idea behind these is to try to save water. I mean,
Speaker 3: we don't need to water every single day and have
Speaker 3: all the water run down into the ditch and down
Speaker 3: to the drain back into the river then whatever, So
Speaker 3: you don't You just want to water judicially and water
Speaker 3: properly and try to respond to the environment. Really Now,
Speaker 3: they also have raine sensors which are really good, and
Speaker 3: freeze sensor. Free sensors are very important, very because it
Speaker 3: will get cold one of these days and you don't
Speaker 3: want to have your sprinkler system run at three am
Speaker 3: and walk out the front door and trip and fall
Speaker 3: on your briefcase and have the wind blow all your
Speaker 3: documents away.
Speaker 1: No, you don't want No, what wants that? Nobody wants that.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to lose their briefs elarry really.
Speaker 3: So so anyways, so do some kind of sense or
Speaker 3: just be aware of it, you know, just say, okay,
Speaker 3: I'm going to turn this thing off for a while.
Speaker 3: I don't need the water. And as your grass becomes
Speaker 3: more savage, the more distance time apart, you want to water.
Speaker 3: You want those richs to go deep down into the soil.
Speaker 3: So they do that. You don't want them to live
Speaker 3: on the shallow step.
Speaker 1: You don't want to say, hey, babe.
Speaker 3: You might also consider a drip system. I utilize that
Speaker 3: at home, a drip system, and it works very well.
Speaker 3: I even have hanging pots on that drip system and
Speaker 3: it comes on every day at six o'clock for the pots,
Speaker 3: but nothing else. The other subject to rain and all
Speaker 3: this other stuff, or just manual watering, but they run.
Speaker 3: The pots are dependent on that. They run. It's basically
Speaker 3: every day. So you can have a hanging pots up
Speaker 3: with the drip tube and so on. I put it
Speaker 3: in the guttering and let it come out each one.
Speaker 3: You really don't see too much of it from inside
Speaker 3: the house. So there are a lot of ways of water.
Speaker 3: And also when you're doing water, make sure your contractor
Speaker 3: does his math and gets because these sprinter nozzles they
Speaker 3: have a specific PSI ranges where they're effective. And if
Speaker 3: you have too much water pressure and jazz, you get
Speaker 3: a lot of aerosol. So you want to keep you
Speaker 3: want to design your system based on that so you
Speaker 3: don't have a lot of steam myst coming out. You
Speaker 3: want that to go in your yard in the atmosphere, right,
Speaker 3: and I see someone you go down the street and
Speaker 3: they're just shooting water and just half of it's going
Speaker 3: up to the to the clouds to come down as
Speaker 3: rain injured neighbor's yard. They did come out with some
Speaker 3: moisture sensors. I tried them out on a project and
Speaker 3: they still need to work on those a little bit.
Speaker 1: Still not quite really to be corrosions real bad on me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, it takes a bimetallic or two different metals
Speaker 3: to generate a current based on the moisture, and they
Speaker 3: decomposed real quickly. So they're coming along with a moisture sensors.
Speaker 3: But right now we just use environmental cause and effect
Speaker 3: to regulate the water.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Green Country Gardener Program.
Speaker 2: It is an eight to fifty five and a half
Speaker 2: seventy seventygrees is a little bit of overcast at this point,
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Speaker 2: today is one eight hundred seven nine three six on
Speaker 2: the Green Country Gardener Program, which you got.
Speaker 3: We didn't discuss our trade of the week yet, No,
Speaker 3: we didn't. The emerald arborvite emerald arbor vitae.
Speaker 1: I get to feeling these things kind of go up
Speaker 1: and down.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's that green green plant, fairly dark green
Speaker 3: and actually fairly dense growing for an arborvity actually, and
Speaker 3: at a small tray or evergreen shrub kind of well
Speaker 3: seited for the loose border style of a privacy screen.
Speaker 3: A lot of people plant in a row like that
Speaker 3: to block things off. Yeah, and they get about three
Speaker 3: feet water, so twenty feet tall on their on their growth,
Speaker 3: and they I make a good backdrop, so fifteen to
Speaker 3: twenty feet four to six of spread to make excellent
Speaker 3: screen to grow iterat of about four feet per year.
Speaker 1: Oh that's getting up there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you won't be one hundred years old when
Speaker 3: the thing's sure. When they're young, they have a bright
Speaker 3: green color and it's darkened to as the plant ages.
Speaker 3: In other words, that's a real dark, lush green color
Speaker 3: to its cures immatures. Yeah, anyway, we it's often a
Speaker 3: little trimming might be necessary, but generally it's not needed.
Speaker 3: You need to give them room to grow and develop.
Speaker 3: They need to have a space where they grow in
Speaker 3: the bellow, and they go naturally into a somewhat paramidal
Speaker 3: shape over time. It's kind of narrow when they're young,
Speaker 3: but they kind of like like everything, yeah, kind of
Speaker 3: broaden out of the middle.
Speaker 1: As I hear you. You need to look at me
Speaker 1: when you say broad. I have ready at clear.
Speaker 3: Anyway, advantage in the mist as they will grow and
Speaker 3: basically ordinary soil. They will grow in alkaline soil, and
Speaker 3: they're hardy and zones three through seven, so they're hardy
Speaker 3: pretty far up north. The emerald green arborvietry prefers full
Speaker 3: sun to thrive and they are performed best in areas
Speaker 3: with high atmospheric moisture, which is humid here, so I
Speaker 3: know my sweat planets can attest to that.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Anyway, this is grown for kind of like a narrow
Speaker 3: upright screen. A few years back we had a cold spell.
Speaker 3: It got down to I think four or five hundred
Speaker 3: degrees below zero. I think it was here for that, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I think it was absolute zero. Well, the people who
Speaker 3: didn't water them, they got knocked out. Yeah, so if
Speaker 3: if you do plant emerald iverybody and there is a
Speaker 3: real cold spill coming on, you might want to go
Speaker 3: ahead and water it so it'll stay alive. It knocked
Speaker 3: out a a whole bunch here intown.
Speaker 1: I saw someone Madison. It didn't do too good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And the last three we had a cold spiale
Speaker 3: couple years ago. Some of them made it. Most of
Speaker 3: them made it, though probably a substitute right now will
Speaker 3: be the the tailor juniper. The tailor juniper is a narrow, narrow,
Speaker 3: upright growing juniper plant, resembling the Italian cypress, and it's
Speaker 3: used for kind of an informal screen, not much of
Speaker 3: a not much of a heavy screen, but kind of
Speaker 3: an implied sprint to screen, if you will. It's also
Speaker 3: used for specimen interest. We use it at the corner
Speaker 3: houses and things like that because it does resemble the
Speaker 3: Italian cypress. With if you've been to Las Vegas, they're
Speaker 3: all over this and that's pretty well. And a customer
Speaker 3: actually brought in a picture of bagworms on his tailor jennifer,
Speaker 3: which is very very uncommon. But because they're so small
Speaker 3: and narrow that they don't have a you have much
Speaker 3: of a problem with them, and the armor vio. He
Speaker 3: does have a problem with bagworms too as well. That
Speaker 3: seems across the platform as far as these plants that
Speaker 3: have a resonance. So anyway, come by the nursery and
Speaker 3: stick out and see what we have. We have still
Speaker 3: have a great selection of annuals. There's a good selection
Speaker 3: of perennials, hummingbird plants. We got to the lantanas and
Speaker 3: all that stuff for hummingbirds too, and a great selection
Speaker 3: of shrubs and trees and so on. And we can
Speaker 3: come out your health, to your house and help you
Speaker 3: out with a problem. So Tom, keep your shovel sharp.
Speaker 3: We will see you next week.
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