Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
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Speaker 1: There is a whole lot to get to. Obviously, the
Speaker 1: big story of our day is going to be the
Speaker 1: plane crash, this American Airlines jet that collided with an
Speaker 1: Army helicopter in the Potomac or I should say, just
Speaker 1: over the Potomac River next to Reagan National Airport in Washington,
Speaker 1: d C.
Speaker 2: Sort of on the border there.
Speaker 1: Since the Potomac is the border between the Wash, the
Speaker 1: District of Columbia, and the state of Virginia.
Speaker 2: It is a.
Speaker 1: Very heavily traveled air corridor, not just because of its
Speaker 1: proximity to the Reagan National Airport, but because of the
Speaker 1: military base that's just across the river. And as I
Speaker 1: was looking up last night the footprint of what kind
Speaker 1: of we're talking about in terms of the location of
Speaker 1: this plane crash from last night, You've got Joint Base
Speaker 1: Anacostia Bowling literally across the Potomac River from the Rega
Speaker 1: National Airport, and with that comes a whole lot of
Speaker 1: military Department of Defense National Intelligence National Defense Intelligence Agency.
Speaker 1: That's also the hangar for Marine I, the helicopters that
Speaker 1: are used to shuttle the president around. Secret Service has
Speaker 1: a massive building along Joint Base Anacostia Bowling. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of traffic, just traffic in general, that goes on
Speaker 1: in that corridor. So we heard from the President, we
Speaker 1: heard from the new Secretary of Transportation, we heard from
Speaker 1: the new Secretary of Defense, all of them involved in
Speaker 1: the aftermath of this horrific plane crash helicopter collision from
Speaker 1: last night. At least twenty eight bodies have already been
Speaker 1: pulled from the Potomac River after the helicopter apparently flew
Speaker 1: into the path of that airplane last night as that
Speaker 1: plane was coming in for landing at Ronald Reagan National Airport.
Speaker 1: The plane carried sixty passengers, four crew. There were three
Speaker 1: Army soldiers aboard the helicopter, and according to the fire
Speaker 1: chief in DC, we don't believe there are any survivors.
Speaker 1: Several hours ago, they decided that this was no longer
Speaker 1: a rescue effort and that it was going.
Speaker 2: To be a recovery effort in the Potomac River.
Speaker 1: The plane itself, there were a questions because it was
Speaker 1: dark by the time this accident happened last night, several
Speaker 1: reporters that I was watching from WTAM, from WTP on
Speaker 1: radio from other places in and around DC, they couldn't
Speaker 1: tell definitively whether or not the plane had gone into
Speaker 1: the river. They said it was pretty clear by eyewitness
Speaker 1: accounts that the helicopter had gone into the river, but
Speaker 1: that they could not tell because the the visibility was
Speaker 1: so low because it was at night, that they couldn't
Speaker 1: tell if the plane itself had gone into the river.
Speaker 1: Now it turns out that according to officials who have
Speaker 1: been on the river, the rescue boats, the divers, the
Speaker 1: plane itself, a small Bombardier airplane, had gone down into
Speaker 1: the river and broke into three different sections, three different parts.
Speaker 1: I suppose a positive is that the river in that
Speaker 1: area is not very deep. Sean Duffy, the Transportation Secretary,
Speaker 1: said it's maybe waist high, and there was another report
Speaker 1: that it was about seven feet deep in that area.
Speaker 1: So the fuselage isn't going to necessarily disappear in seven
Speaker 1: foot deep water depending on the amount of damage, et cetera.
Speaker 1: But it still does not mean it's easy to recover
Speaker 1: the bodies. It is a river, it is full of
Speaker 1: silt is the visibility is very very low, and the
Speaker 1: water temperature is somewhere between thirty five and forty degrees.
Speaker 1: So even in the best wetsuit, the rescue divers and
Speaker 1: now recovery divers that you have working on all of
Speaker 1: that thing are going to have a hard time staying
Speaker 1: down there for any amount of time.
Speaker 2: So we'll get into that.
Speaker 1: I have a lot of sound to play from some
Speaker 1: of the news conferences that we heard earlier today, from
Speaker 1: the President's comments just a short time ago, from what
Speaker 1: the Secretary of Transportation has said, Secretary of Defense, the
Speaker 1: Governor of Virginia, all of them are going to be
Speaker 1: in this roundup of different sound, And I think most
Speaker 1: importantly in terms of kind of getting a picture of
Speaker 1: what happened, the air traffic control tapes, the actual words
Speaker 1: spoken by air traffic controllers to both the airplane and
Speaker 1: the helicopter just before the collision may shed some light
Speaker 1: on what it was that actually happened that led to
Speaker 1: this horrific crash. Also other stuff going on today, the
Speaker 1: confirmation hearings continue. Not only do you have Robert F.
Speaker 1: Kennedy Junior going again before a Senate committee, this one
Speaker 1: the Health Committee instead of the Finance commitee from yesterday.
Speaker 1: You've got the Director of National Intelligence nominee, Tulca Gabbard.
Speaker 1: She is going on. She may be pre cruel. I
Speaker 1: guess you could argue that she is the one who
Speaker 1: in the most trouble and has the most uphill climb
Speaker 1: in terms of confirmation. But also Cash patel Man, who's
Speaker 1: been nominated to take over the FBI, his hearings today
Speaker 1: in front of the Judiciary Committee.
Speaker 2: So all of that, and locally some.
Speaker 1: Notions perhaps about how are two huge fires started and
Speaker 1: they may have been very different by the way, the
Speaker 1: Eton fire and the Palisades fire. All of that still
Speaker 1: to come on this Gary and Shannon Show. And Amber
Speaker 1: alert still up for the two little girls believed to
Speaker 1: have been taken by their father after he killed their
Speaker 1: mother up in the San Joaquin Valley. Alana and Aria Maldonado,
Speaker 1: two and three years old, might be headed to Mexico.
Speaker 2: Their dad last seeing.
Speaker 1: Driving a gray Hyundai Elantra California license plate eight l
Speaker 1: z D zero eight four and if you see it,
Speaker 1: obviously should call it nine to one one and internationally.
Speaker 1: Hamas handed over three Israelis and five Thaie hostages in
Speaker 1: Goza today, but Israel delayed the expected release of the
Speaker 1: Palestinian prisoners that were part of this swap because of
Speaker 1: the chaotic scene at one of the handover points. A
Speaker 1: bunch of large crowds, I mean hundreds and hundreds of
Speaker 1: people were swarming around these hostages as they were being
Speaker 1: turned over to the Red Cross. So they decided to
Speaker 1: hold off on that for just a bit. Another rain
Speaker 1: event coming to southern California. We will see rain probably
Speaker 1: Tuesday through Thursday of next week. National Weather Service is
Speaker 1: forecasting what they say is a minor to moderate rain event,
Speaker 1: so a quarter of an inch to an inch of
Speaker 1: rain expected Tuesday through Thursday. Rainfall amounts could be a
Speaker 1: little bit higher in the mountains and the hills, maybe
Speaker 1: one to two inches, and they said the rain the
Speaker 1: snow level is going to be just a bit higher.
Speaker 3: Flight of a All right, so let me set the
Speaker 3: scene just in terms of the location of what we're
Speaker 3: talking about, this air crash from last night on imagine
Speaker 3: a why that why is the Potomac River and the
Speaker 3: top left branch is the continued portion of the Potomac
Speaker 3: River upriver.
Speaker 1: The right branch of the WY on top is the
Speaker 1: Anacostia River. They come together, then the Anacostia disappears, basically
Speaker 1: becomes the Potomac, And on the body of the WY,
Speaker 1: they're sort of straight up and down. On the left side,
Speaker 1: you've got Reaga National Airport. On the right side, you've
Speaker 1: got a military base, Joint Base Anacostia Bowling just across
Speaker 1: the river from the airport. And the way this happened
Speaker 1: last night, the airplane, the American Airlines jet coming in
Speaker 1: from Wichita, was flying basically south to north and it
Speaker 1: was going to make a broad left turn and land
Speaker 1: at Reaga National Airport. So it's coming up sort of
Speaker 1: the body of the why if you will, coming up
Speaker 1: the river. The helicopter is coming from the north to
Speaker 1: the south, following that left arm of the WY, sort
Speaker 1: of coming along the Potomac River on a training flight
Speaker 1: according to the President, according to the Secretary of Defense,
Speaker 1: and at some point as the plane is descending to
Speaker 1: come in for its final approach, the helicopter is apparently
Speaker 1: rising at somewhere between two one hundred and fifty three
Speaker 1: hundred feet, which is as the plane is descending into
Speaker 1: that same airspace and then the collision happens. The air
Speaker 1: traffic controllers had asked the helicopter if they had visual
Speaker 1: on the airplane, and they referred to it as CJR,
Speaker 1: this regional jet, and it's the type of jet that
Speaker 1: they were looking for.
Speaker 4: I don't know what happened with them. There was a
Speaker 4: puision on the.
Speaker 1: Three You can hear in that air travel played this
Speaker 1: little part again. You can hear people in the background
Speaker 1: reacting to what they saw outside the tower. So according
Speaker 1: to transcripts and what we can tell from the radio tower,
Speaker 1: the helicopter did acknowledge that they did have visual on
Speaker 1: that airplane, but it might have been the wrong airplane.
Speaker 1: That's the best theory that's been floated so far, that
Speaker 1: it was simply a mistake by the helicopter pilot. I've
Speaker 1: seen information from people who say that they were controllers
Speaker 1: at that airport for several years. It's normal operation because
Speaker 1: there are a lot of military operations in that area.
Speaker 1: According to the Secretary of Defense, by the way, which
Speaker 1: we'll hear from a little bit later, this may have
Speaker 1: been a continuation and of government training flight. Now when
Speaker 1: he says that it sounds like all hell break this
Speaker 1: is a training exercise in case all hell breaks loose
Speaker 1: and they need to get members of the government out
Speaker 1: of DC or bring them into d C or whatever
Speaker 1: they would do. But it would be sort of the
Speaker 1: doomsday kind of environment training exercise that they were doing.
Speaker 2: But they do it very regularly. Now when.
Speaker 1: One of our friends, friends of the show, is in
Speaker 1: contact with former air traffic controllers there at DCA, and
Speaker 1: they said that it's very common for air traffic controllers
Speaker 1: to let everybody know who might be involved, to let
Speaker 1: the airplane know the helicopters come, and then let the
Speaker 1: helicopter know the airplane is coming, and make sure that
Speaker 1: both of them have visual contact with the other. Can
Speaker 1: you see that airplane? Can you see that helicopter? And
Speaker 1: it looks as if not a conclusion by anybody, no
Speaker 1: National Transportation Safety Board. But the President has said something
Speaker 1: similar to this that he believes it was a mistake.
Speaker 2: By the crew in the helicopter.
Speaker 1: If this is true, it's likely that the helicopter identified
Speaker 1: the wrong airplane that it's flying and off to its
Speaker 1: right side, off to its starboard side, you're looking at
Speaker 1: planes taking off and landing at Reaga National Airport and
Speaker 1: when asked if they have eyes on, if they have
Speaker 1: visual on that regional jet, they may have been looking
Speaker 1: at the wrong airplane and flown directly into the path
Speaker 1: of the airplane that eventually they collided with and went
Speaker 1: down again. Sixty four people, sixty passengers, four crew on
Speaker 1: the American Airlines jet that was coming in from Kansas,
Speaker 1: three Army soldiers on the helicopter.
Speaker 2: All of them are believed to have died.
Speaker 1: Former Coast Guard diver shannon's Gaff said, these conditions for
Speaker 1: the divers that are now looking for the people involved
Speaker 1: in the crash, the conditions for the divers are just
Speaker 1: as dangerous.
Speaker 5: You know, they're out there in terrible conditions right now
Speaker 5: trying to get that get that done. The survivability for
Speaker 5: tempatures in thirty five degree water is about an hour
Speaker 5: to an hour and a half and that's for someone
Speaker 5: that's healthy, that has lecture on. So they're really I've
Speaker 5: got some real challenges to affect this safely, and I'll
Speaker 5: be pulling for them.
Speaker 1: Meta platforms Facebook, Instagram, Etcetera has agreed to pay about
Speaker 1: twenty five million dollars to President Trump to settle this
Speaker 1: lawsuit that was brought against the company and Mark Zuckerberg
Speaker 1: after they suspended Trump's accounts after the attack on the
Speaker 1: Capitol of January sixth. Of the twenty five million, about
Speaker 1: twenty two million goes towards a fund for the President's
Speaker 1: future sentential library. The rest of it's going to go
Speaker 1: to legal fees and other plaintiffs who signed onto the case.
Speaker 1: And in this settlement, Meta does not agree to any wrongdoing.
Speaker 1: At the top of the hour, we're going to talk
Speaker 1: about the potential clues that we have about what started
Speaker 1: are two massive fires earlier this month, the Palisades fire
Speaker 1: and the Eaton fire, and they may be very, very different.
Speaker 1: We'll explain what that's going to look like coming up
Speaker 1: at the top of the hour. Glen Youngkin is the
Speaker 1: governor of Virginia.
Speaker 6: I've noticed this morning that all teams had shifted from recovery.
Speaker 6: From rescue to recovery. Is just heart wrenching and is
Speaker 6: heart wrenching for the families that I know. We're expecting
Speaker 6: a loved one to be home with them last night,
Speaker 6: and that is where all the focuses are today.
Speaker 1: Again, Glenn Youngkin, Governor of Virginia. Sixty four people on
Speaker 1: board that American Airlines playing the collido with an Army helicopter.
Speaker 1: Three crew members on the Army helicopter, All of them
Speaker 1: are feared dead. President Trump gave sort of a play
Speaker 1: by play earlier today.
Speaker 4: Just before nine pm last night, an American Airlines regional
Speaker 4: jet carrying sixty passengers and four crew collided with an
Speaker 4: Army black Hawk helicopter carrying three military service members over
Speaker 4: the Potomac River in Washington, DC, while on final approach
Speaker 4: to rega national airport. Both aircraft crashed instantly and were
Speaker 4: immediately submerged into the icy waters of the Potomac. Real tragedy.
Speaker 4: The massive search and rescue mission was underway throughout the night,
Speaker 4: leveraging every asset at our disposal. And I have to
Speaker 4: say the local, state, federal military, including the United States
Speaker 4: Coast Guard in particular, they've done a phenomenal job, so quick,
Speaker 4: so fast. It was mobilized immediately. The work has now
Speaker 4: shifted to a recovery mission. Sadly, there are no survivors.
Speaker 1: Pete Hegseth is in the new Secretary of Defense that's
Speaker 1: got to deal with the military aspect of this being
Speaker 1: the Army helicopter.
Speaker 7: Routine annual retraining of night flights on a standard corridor
Speaker 7: for a continuity of government mission. The military does dangerous things,
Speaker 7: it does routine things on the regular basis. Tragically, last
Speaker 7: night a mistake was made, and I think the President
Speaker 7: is right, there was some sort of an elevation issue
Speaker 7: that we have immediately begun investigating at the DoD and
Speaker 7: Army level. ARMYCID is on the ground investigating top tier
Speaker 7: aviation assets inside the DoD are investigating, sir, to get
Speaker 7: to the bottom of it so that it does not
Speaker 7: happen again, because it's absolutely unacceptable.
Speaker 1: Okay, to go back to President Trump, he had said
Speaker 1: that it appears that the pilot of the helicopter, or
Speaker 1: at least the crew of the helicopter, made the mistake
Speaker 1: that caused the accident.
Speaker 6: Is it fault if.
Speaker 4: It was the plane, the helicopter, air traffic control? And
Speaker 4: can you assure people that it is safe to fly
Speaker 4: in and.
Speaker 2: Out of DC.
Speaker 4: Well, I've given you the analysis, and the analysis was
Speaker 4: who's based on envision. You had a lot of people
Speaker 4: that saw what was happening. You had some people that
Speaker 4: knew what was happening. There was some warnings, but the
Speaker 4: warnings were given very very late. You know, those warnings
Speaker 4: were given very late. It was almost as they were
Speaker 4: given a few seconds later there was the crash. It
Speaker 4: should have been brought up earlier. But the people and
Speaker 4: the helicopter should have seen where they we're going. I
Speaker 4: can't imagine people with twenty twenty vision not seeing, you know,
Speaker 4: what's happening up there.
Speaker 1: Okay, this is where they're going to get into trouble.
Speaker 1: They being President Trump Secretary of Defense Pete hag Seth,
Speaker 1: they are now suggesting that diversity, equity and inclusion programs
Speaker 1: are also responsible for this crash. Here, for example, the
Speaker 1: President this just this morning, when he's talking about this
Speaker 1: plane crash, reads an article about FAA hiring practice.
Speaker 4: I do want to point out that various articles that
Speaker 4: appeared prior to my entering office, and here's one. The
Speaker 4: FAA's diversity push includes focus on hiring people with severe
Speaker 4: intellectual and psychiatric disabilities. That is amazing, and there says
Speaker 4: FAA says people with severe disabilities the most underrepresented segment
Speaker 4: of the workforce, and they want them in and they
Speaker 4: want them they can be air traffic controllers. I don't
Speaker 4: think so.
Speaker 2: This was Pete Hegseth a short time after that.
Speaker 7: I want to echo what Transportation Tectory and you, mister
Speaker 7: President said, because it pertains the DD as well. We
Speaker 7: will have the best and brightest in every position impossible.
Speaker 2: As you said in.
Speaker 7: Your inaugural, it is color blind and merit based the
Speaker 7: best leaders possible, whether it's flying blackhawks and flying airplanes,
Speaker 7: leading platoons, or in government. The era of DEI is
Speaker 7: gone at the Defense Department, and we need the best
Speaker 7: and brightest, whether it's in our air traffic control, or
Speaker 7: whether it's in our generals, or whether it's throughout government.
Speaker 1: And then there was this late in that news conference,
Speaker 1: the President was taking.
Speaker 4: Questionss I understand that.
Speaker 8: That's why I'm trying to figure out how you can
Speaker 8: come to the conclusion.
Speaker 2: Right now that dubricity had something to do with this.
Speaker 4: Crash, because they have common sense, okay, and unfortunately a
Speaker 4: lot of people don't.
Speaker 1: This is going to get him into trouble. What if
Speaker 1: these were the best in the brightest. What if the
Speaker 1: air traffic controllers who are in charge of the situation
Speaker 1: from last night were top of the class, regardless of DEI, hires,
Speaker 1: et cetera. They were the top of the class. What
Speaker 1: if the hell helicopter pilot, the army pilot, what if
Speaker 1: he was the best or she.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: The idea that you're now injecting the d I listen,
Speaker 1: and I agree with him. All of those positions should
Speaker 1: be merit based hires. I completely agree with him. But
Speaker 1: the idea that now you're shoehorning this into what has
Speaker 1: become I think it's the third worst air traffic tragedy
Speaker 1: in the United States history, that that is the first
Speaker 1: of all, that this would be the time that you
Speaker 1: would do that less than twelve hours after the crash.
Speaker 2: And then to suggest.
Speaker 1: That that was had anything to do with the crash
Speaker 1: before you know exactly what happened, that's going to come
Speaker 1: back to bite them.
Speaker 2: I think again.
Speaker 1: I agree that that air traffic controllers, pilots you need
Speaker 1: the best period, color blind hiring, a gender blind hiring, whatever.
Speaker 2: Yes, I completely agree.
Speaker 1: But to suggest now that you know that that was
Speaker 1: what caused this crash a little ridiculous. At these twenty
Speaker 1: eight bodies now have been pulled from the waters of
Speaker 1: the Potomac River. After that, American Airlines Jack carrying sixty
Speaker 1: passengers and four crew, collided with an Army helicopter with
Speaker 1: three on board while the airplane was landing at Ronald
Speaker 1: Reagan National Airport near DC. Cruisers still looking for other casualties,
Speaker 1: but don't believe there were any survivors that would make
Speaker 1: it the deadliest US air crash in about twenty four years.
Speaker 1: We know that there was a group of figure skaters
Speaker 1: apparently on board the plane from Wichita, Kansas that was
Speaker 1: bound four DC. A bunch of figure skaters US figure skating.
Speaker 1: The governing body for the sport said that skaters were
Speaker 1: returning from a training camp or top juvenile, intermediate and
Speaker 1: novice skaters that follows the National figure Skating Championship which
Speaker 1: were held in Wichita over the weekend. Some Russian figure
Speaker 1: skaters were among those on the plane. According to a
Speaker 1: spokesperson for the Kremlin, one of the young figure skaters
Speaker 1: did not get on that flight because his dog was
Speaker 1: too big. A guy named John Maravilla set to be
Speaker 1: among the passengers on board American flight fifty three forty two,
Speaker 1: but he posted about his ordeal on Instagram yesterday saying
Speaker 1: not allowed past gate to board flight. And he's got
Speaker 1: a picture of his dog apparently, and he wrote, get
Speaker 1: me TF out of Kansas please. He rented a car
Speaker 1: and said he was going to drive the rest of
Speaker 1: the way, which would have been a fourteen hour drive,
Speaker 1: but the size of his dog prevented him from getting
Speaker 1: on that airplane. Last night, also in Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: Confirmation mania continues. A trio of President Trump's top allies
Speaker 1: appear for these confirmation showdowns, Tulcy Gabbard, Robert F. Kennedy
Speaker 1: Junior for day two, and Cash Patel appearing in confirmation
Speaker 1: hearings this morning.
Speaker 2: It's going on right now.
Speaker 1: One of the members of the Senate Health, Education, Labor
Speaker 1: and Pensions Committee he committee is Tommy Tubberville. He says,
Speaker 1: it's huge. We're going to separate the men from the
Speaker 1: boys in this hearing. Most of the attention. Well, let
Speaker 1: me get into the Kennedy thing first of one of
Speaker 1: the outspoken supporters of Robert F. Kennedy Junior as the
Speaker 1: potential Health and Human Services Secretary is doctor Pat Sun Shong,
Speaker 1: whose name should ring a bell if you're in southern California.
Speaker 1: He's the new editor of the La Times, the new
Speaker 1: owner of the La Times, I should say just yesterday,
Speaker 1: he posted two days ago. Sorry, he posted on X.
Speaker 1: I had not met Bobby Kennedy until a few months ago.
Speaker 1: The more I got to know him, I truly believe
Speaker 1: he has the American public's interest at heart. I've worried
Speaker 1: about toxins and the cause of cancer my entire career
Speaker 1: as a physician scientist. I really hope he is confirmed.
Speaker 1: And then tags RFK Junior. If you remember some of
Speaker 1: the stuff that we talked about yesterday and the hearing
Speaker 1: for RFK Junior in front of the Finance Committee, of
Speaker 1: all things, they spent a lot of time talking about measles,
Speaker 1: but they didn't spend a lot of time talking about
Speaker 1: chronic diseases and food supply issues that have tainted, you know,
Speaker 1: chemicals that exist in our food supply. So just to
Speaker 1: give you an idea of who it is that's asking
Speaker 1: those questions, one tally said that the word measles was
Speaker 1: used twenty five times by Democrats on the Finance Committee yesterday.
Speaker 1: None of the questions about his big push recently, not
Speaker 1: about vaccines, not about measles or anything, but about chronic
Speaker 1: health problems that constitute the national security emergency that he
Speaker 1: is concerned about.
Speaker 2: Today.
Speaker 1: Like I said, he's going before the Senate Health, Education, Labor,
Speaker 1: and Pensions Committee, Tulca Gabbard. Meanwhile, she has been nominated
Speaker 1: to take over as Director of National Intelligence. There were
Speaker 1: a couple of different versions of her story and the
Speaker 1: suggestion that there are as many as three Republican senators
Speaker 1: who have expressed a doubt that she should be confirmed.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they are actual hard knows, but
Speaker 1: they have expressed some doubts. So we'll see how her
Speaker 1: hearing goes today before the Intelligence Committee. And then Kash Patel,
Speaker 1: the guy who has been named to take over the FBI.
Speaker 1: A couple of things. He was asked by Dick Durbin
Speaker 1: about President Trump's January sixth party.
Speaker 4: Was President Donald Trump wrong to your blanket clemency to
Speaker 4: the January sixth defendants?
Speaker 2: Thank you, Ranking member.
Speaker 9: A couple of things on that one, the power of
Speaker 9: the presidential part It is just that the president welm.
Speaker 2: I can see he has the authority.
Speaker 6: I'm asking was he wrong to do it?
Speaker 9: And as we discussed in our private meeting, Senator, I
Speaker 9: have always rejected any violence against law enforcement, and I
Speaker 9: have including in that group is specifically addressed any violence
Speaker 9: against law enforcement on anywhere.
Speaker 1: Sixth, Now, he did not go so far as to
Speaker 1: say he disagreed with the press.
Speaker 2: He can't.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's political suicide for him to come out
Speaker 1: and suggests that he doesn't think that they should have been.
Speaker 2: Should have been pardoned.
Speaker 1: But I mean made it pretty clear that he abhors
Speaker 1: the idea of fighting against law enforcement.
Speaker 2: So that's between he and Donald Trump. Are you aware that, then,
Speaker 2: this is South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham.
Speaker 8: Are you aware that the FBI had volumes information that
Speaker 8: the Still dossier was a bunch of them and nobody
Speaker 8: ever told anybody.
Speaker 2: At the top?
Speaker 8: He did say, answer, expect are they lied about it
Speaker 8: being told?
Speaker 2: That's correct.
Speaker 8: So are you aware of the fact that the FISA
Speaker 8: court rebuked the FBI. Are you aware of the fact
Speaker 8: that FBI lawyer went to jail because he misled the
Speaker 8: court by manipulating an email from the CIA?
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 1: Now, keep in mind whatever political side you're on doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: Keep this in mind.
Speaker 1: There's one per in each of those confirmation rooms, in
Speaker 1: each of those hearing rooms, there's one who is under oath.
Speaker 2: One.
Speaker 1: Senators on either side can say whatever they want, and
Speaker 1: you've seen it. They can bluster, they can lie. Bernie
Speaker 1: Sanders can put up pictures of baby onesies and there's
Speaker 1: no expectation. That's not the right word. There's no requirement
Speaker 1: that they tell the truth. They bluster, they politicize, they
Speaker 1: make speeches, and then they oftentimes don't allow the actual
Speaker 1: nominee to make any actual statement. All right, Up next,
Speaker 1: the investigation into what caused our massive fires, two very
Speaker 1: different fires, the Eton Fire and the Palisades Fire.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about both of those when we come back
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