Speaker 1: Welcome to the comic con.
Speaker 2: Sometimes Daniel, sometimes not Geek first Marvel Alliance crossover or
Speaker 2: we break down the whole panel. Not too much going
Speaker 2: on here, but we got some big stuff near the
Speaker 2: end and some confirmations everything like that, I am a
Speaker 2: Truss Snow and I'm joined by Hey, I'm doing my.
Speaker 3: Kind of comics.
Speaker 4: Stator Field neighborhood, Brent.
Speaker 2: Without fear, Chris just in Trump Brent. But no, so, ladies, gentlemen,
Speaker 2: every we'll do some plugs. Oh and look at this,
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Speaker 4: Coordinator.
Speaker 2: Yeah we will.
Speaker 1: We will do some plugs and whatnot, lay or anything.
Speaker 1: But we're get right into it.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna break down the panel, but we're not
Speaker 2: going or we're gonna start with the juicy stuff. I've
Speaker 2: been waiting to talk about it. So we just got
Speaker 2: off the panel, coming to an end. It seems like
Speaker 2: here and there's some stuff of f four but the
Speaker 2: kind of three hits in a row. They said, okay,
Speaker 2: here's your directors for Avengers. Like we heard that was rumored.
Speaker 2: Who at the Russol Brothers confirmed they need a little
Speaker 2: spiel about Okay, we're happy to be here talking about
Speaker 2: Secret Wars, didn't they They're come back.
Speaker 1: And then they showed some logos.
Speaker 2: They showed the logo for Avengers Secret Wars, which is
Speaker 2: still twenty twenty seven, and then they showed the logo
Speaker 2: for the Avengers five film, which is Avengers Doomsday. Kirkly,
Speaker 2: do you know who's playing Doomsday yet?
Speaker 5: I was watching you.
Speaker 1: I was just okay you. I was gonna say, I
Speaker 1: blow your mind here, but yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm aware RDJ is back. Yeah, I was, yes.
Speaker 2: So then they had a bunch of Doomsday people come out.
Speaker 2: I took off the mask and Robert Downey Junior is
Speaker 2: playing Doomsday, which is just a weird It's a weird statement.
Speaker 2: But uh, Brent, I'm gonna start with you and a
Speaker 2: certain Marvel Lions guys. What is your initial thoughts on
Speaker 2: the the ending here, because yeah, the rest of the
Speaker 2: panel I got a few little news, but the big
Speaker 2: bunch of us here, But what are your thoughts on
Speaker 2: the Venger sandwich and Downey and Russo's and Doomsday all
Speaker 2: that could jazz Well?
Speaker 6: This by far is the biggest news of the of
Speaker 6: the weekend. I mean, Marvel usually has the biggest news
Speaker 6: of the weekend, but Nothing is gonna top Downy coming back.
Speaker 6: Nothing's going to even approach Downy coming back. And these
Speaker 6: rumors just started recently and I absolutely did not believe
Speaker 6: them one bit. I was like, there's no way they're
Speaker 6: bringing him. I believe Downey Junior was going to come back.
Speaker 4: I did not.
Speaker 6: Believe he was going to play doctor Doom. That said,
Speaker 6: I am real interested in it, And if I had
Speaker 6: been in that crowd, I'd have been cheering just as
Speaker 6: loud as those people were. Just to see him back
Speaker 6: on stage. Absolutely incredible. And yes, like I told you earlier,
Speaker 6: he got his Oscar, so he's willing to come back
Speaker 6: to this. But you know, Marvel, Marvel did a lot
Speaker 6: for him and getting his life back on track.
Speaker 4: So it's pretty it's pretty great.
Speaker 6: And you combine that with the Russo's, whom I obviously
Speaker 6: love the work that they've done for Marvel. To me,
Speaker 6: this was it was kind of a lackluster comment like
Speaker 6: hall ahe panel up until the last five minutes, ten minutes,
Speaker 6: and that.
Speaker 4: Just kills the entire thing. Absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 1: Chris, what are your what are your initial thoughts here?
Speaker 7: You know, it's again not on my Bingo card. And
Speaker 7: I was never gonna say, oh, yeah, we're gonna put
Speaker 7: Robert Downey in the in the role for it. I
Speaker 7: would have been saying, like, let's try to get maybe
Speaker 7: a I was confident we're going to get another actor,
Speaker 7: another kind of pedigree actor to take on doctor Doom.
Speaker 7: But you know, Comic book President, Yeah, we've had Tony
Speaker 7: break bad and you know, without any kind of you know,
Speaker 7: moral compass at that point goes, so we can lean
Speaker 7: towards that. I mean, I'm pretty confident that this is
Speaker 7: going to be a variant. So the multi verse saga
Speaker 7: kind of continues. But I I'm happy, you know again,
Speaker 7: I'll take more Robert Downey Junior, and this will be
Speaker 7: interesting seeing evil Robert evil Tony Stark at that point.
Speaker 7: Well in this case, you know, Victor von Doom. But
Speaker 7: I'm wondering how it's going to play with the general audience.
Speaker 7: You know, that's that's going to be interesting after every
Speaker 7: everything has led up to, like Tony Stark with this
Speaker 7: one of the best arcs of the entire MCU. Now,
Speaker 7: my my wondering is where do we start seeing him?
Speaker 7: Where do we start laying the the breadcrumbs of this
Speaker 7: this Victor von Doom. That looks like Tony Stark becoming
Speaker 7: the evil Genius at that point. So I I have
Speaker 7: a lot of questions. I'm I'm I'm excited at the
Speaker 7: I said that. I just said this to Scott's I'm
Speaker 7: fascinated at the idea.
Speaker 1: M mister Field.
Speaker 8: I I mean, it's just where do where do you
Speaker 8: start on something like that? Like I'm trying to comprehend
Speaker 8: where they fit this character in. It has to be multiversal, obviously,
Speaker 8: because I doubt Tom Holland's going to just look up
Speaker 8: and see, like everywhere I see his face Doom, Doctor Doom.
Speaker 2: Even multiversal. That's gonna be a great moment in Avengers.
Speaker 2: That's true, Tom Holme comes face to face with Doom
Speaker 2: played by Downy. That's gonna be a gut punch, I feel,
Speaker 2: that's oh man.
Speaker 8: And that's where I'm excited to see what kind of
Speaker 8: explanation they're going to provide, because is it going to be.
Speaker 3: How I was thinking how I was gonna work.
Speaker 8: This is gonna be like a Tony Stark character that's
Speaker 8: just like, hey, I'm going to take up the mantle
Speaker 8: of Doom or something like that, or we're gonna have
Speaker 8: no this is Victor von He just looks like.
Speaker 4: Tone Russo's introduced him as Victor von Doom.
Speaker 6: Really, I just in a video where of it, and
Speaker 6: I frankly just was watching it and they introduced as
Speaker 6: Victor van Doom.
Speaker 3: Interesting.
Speaker 1: I would have thought they went the other one.
Speaker 2: I would have thought they would have had him as
Speaker 2: Tony Stark, that Winnie would not have thought he would
Speaker 2: have been Victor von Doom.
Speaker 1: That's interesting.
Speaker 3: Okay, well that's I mean, that's still really really cool.
Speaker 8: And at this point they've as much as a surprised
Speaker 8: as this is.
Speaker 3: I think it will be confusing for the GA. But
Speaker 3: I think the GA when they go.
Speaker 8: In to see some of these movies like Multiverse of Madness,
Speaker 8: I think that maybe, okay, we can see that there
Speaker 8: are these characters that are.
Speaker 2: Spoilers, but there are people that play different.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and like drop like a name here you get
Speaker 8: not Captain Marvel and multiverseal Madness, but you get I can't.
Speaker 1: Remember Monica Maria Rambo.
Speaker 3: Maria Rambo. Yeah, so you get you get her. And
Speaker 3: so there are these differens. Peggy Carter is.
Speaker 8: Yeah, different Captain America. So I think that's very much
Speaker 8: setting the stage for people to kind of be used
Speaker 8: to this. Okay, yeah, there's gonna be a different faces
Speaker 8: this character, but a face that we've already.
Speaker 3: Seen before and just that that shift.
Speaker 8: But I think it's great and having the Russo's come
Speaker 8: back is wonderful because when you look at the whole
Speaker 8: roster of Marvel MCU projects, they got their names on
Speaker 8: some of the more prominent good ones, and especially when
Speaker 8: you look at how they've led the charge on the
Speaker 8: larger ensemble Marvel films, like you got your Civil War
Speaker 8: and then obviously your two big Avengers films. I think
Speaker 8: that these guys know how to handle a large roster
Speaker 8: of characters. For an Avengers film, they've.
Speaker 2: Passed Down three times as well too.
Speaker 3: For Downy three times.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so when you got them basically putting their foot
Speaker 8: down on these Avengers projects, like, I'm totally all for that.
Speaker 3: I mean, we know that they can do the job,
Speaker 3: and we know they can do the job.
Speaker 2: Well, so I'm all there, mister Patzer.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a it's a big I feel like I'm
Speaker 9: still kind of digesting the news and processing it. It's
Speaker 9: gonna be an interesting next few weeks here. It's part
Speaker 9: of me is like a little bit upset. I feel
Speaker 9: like in the past, I've just like grown so much
Speaker 9: trust for like the casting directors throughout the MCU of.
Speaker 3: Like specially for a character like don't like Doom.
Speaker 9: Yeah, like like especially for a character like Dom. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 9: which up and coming actor are they gonna find that
Speaker 9: I've never heard of before? That is just gonna like
Speaker 9: I'm gonna have so much faith on like going forward
Speaker 9: and just like follow this new individual's.
Speaker 3: Career moving forward.
Speaker 9: And and uh so, like part of me is like
Speaker 9: a little bit bummed that we won't get to see that.
Speaker 3: But it's no more.
Speaker 1: Everybody's never cast.
Speaker 3: Every actor that's out there now.
Speaker 9: I'm I am very though intrigued by seeing like an
Speaker 9: evil RDJ, especially just because it's like in the past,
Speaker 9: anytime you think of him, it's Tony Stark and just
Speaker 9: like being that Mount Rushmore figure of like that is
Speaker 9: like our hero, and he's been our hero since the
Speaker 9: dawn of the MCU, So it is going to be
Speaker 9: really interesting to just also have him Like it's probably
Speaker 9: gonna be a fun challenge to just play like an
Speaker 9: evil character in the mcu because he's never done that before.
Speaker 9: So I'm really excited to see what that comes with it.
Speaker 9: But I think because the news is just so new
Speaker 9: and fresh, I am like kind of caught in the
Speaker 9: middle of there of like, oh, like, I guess I'll
Speaker 9: never see what could have been with another doom but
Speaker 9: I mean we are in the multiverse, we could be
Speaker 9: getting another casting, like you never know what might happen,
Speaker 9: but at least for Avengers dooms Day. I love that title,
Speaker 9: by the way as well. I know it's a DC thing,
Speaker 9: but still I feel like that's that's a really sweet
Speaker 9: title to have. It's short and short and easy to remember,
Speaker 9: as Jack Sparrow would say. So, yeah, I'm pretty stoked
Speaker 9: on this news. And I feel like it's also just
Speaker 9: like out of anyone to be like coming back and
Speaker 9: be playing a villain, to have like him, it's like
Speaker 9: him and Chris Evans would be like the two biggest ones,
Speaker 9: I think, And yeah, no, I'm I'm really stoked have
Speaker 9: him back and with Chriss.
Speaker 3: What do you think.
Speaker 8: Now, Let's say someone doesn't go see the trailers and
Speaker 8: doesn't know this news or comic con. They're walking up
Speaker 8: to the movie theater and they see a poster for
Speaker 8: Avengers dooms Day and there's Robert and Junior's face on
Speaker 8: the poster.
Speaker 3: But he's not in any giveaway garbage, just his face
Speaker 3: all the other characters faces.
Speaker 8: Are they gonna think, Oh, the Iron Man is in
Speaker 8: the doomsteay, Oh this is so cool, he's coming back.
Speaker 3: They get in there.
Speaker 9: I can confidently say there will be a good percentage
Speaker 9: of people that think that. There will be a good
Speaker 9: handful of individuals that have that thought. But I don't know.
Speaker 9: I like they are gonna make it clear as day.
Speaker 9: I would imagine for all the marketing materials lea up
Speaker 9: to it. And because it's an Avengers movie, I feel
Speaker 9: like sometimes it's like, hey, I've been seeing too many
Speaker 9: trailers for this. I feel like I'm gonna get that
Speaker 9: for Avengers because it's just like the biggest thing, like
Speaker 9: they're trying to promote here, there and everywhere and all
Speaker 9: the interviews. So but still, they'll be a handful of
Speaker 9: people for sure.
Speaker 2: So Dylan, we talked about this potential on Wednesday. This
Speaker 2: is why folks always say so I would cover the
Speaker 2: seatier rumors stuff because you never know what can be
Speaker 2: true out there and I even said that they said, oh,
Speaker 2: this might not work out and stuff, but there were
Speaker 2: rumors about it. So we talked about on Wednesday the possibility.
Speaker 2: Now it is a full on cold fact of and yes, yes, spubsaid,
Speaker 2: he is playing Doctor Doom, not Doomsday, but at this point,
Speaker 2: who knows what could happen downline, But yeah, he's playing.
Speaker 1: Doctor Doom in Doom's day. What are you thinking now
Speaker 1: that it is confirmed?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean go back to that episode, like I
Speaker 5: didn't think it would happen, and I didn't want it either,
Speaker 5: And so right now I'm I'm split, Like, I don't
Speaker 5: it's exciting. It was a you know, blow the roof
Speaker 5: off moment for sure, when we're getting these live tweets
Speaker 5: coming through, But I don't know if I'm gonna be
Speaker 5: into this, you know, like I haven't seen him act
Speaker 5: much outside of being Tony Stark. I've seen oppenheimern, I
Speaker 5: don't think I've ever seen him in anything else. And
Speaker 5: you know, so much of the MC and his character
Speaker 5: is just like just the mannerisms, the way he talks,
Speaker 5: the confidence. He has such a strong, huge personality that
Speaker 5: is just so captivating and so part of me wonders, like, okay,
Speaker 5: if we're gonna translate that to being a new character,
Speaker 5: because I like what you were saying, Travis, like, I
Speaker 5: think it'd be cool if it was a Tony Stark
Speaker 5: who I went rogue, But as Brent said, like, okay, no,
Speaker 5: this is actually Victor von Doom, So I like, I
Speaker 5: don't think we're gonna get any of that likeness and
Speaker 5: instead it's just gonna be him playing a new character.
Speaker 5: But I don't know, like, I don't know what that's
Speaker 5: gonna look like. I feel like he's he can't have
Speaker 5: that same type of personality that he does as Iron Man,
Speaker 5: so it said he's gonna go a different direction, and
Speaker 5: I could I could see it being underwhelming or just
Speaker 5: not as good as Tony Stark, and therefore it's like, Okay,
Speaker 5: well I was fine, but I would have rather taken
Speaker 5: Adam Driver or one of the other million people who
Speaker 5: are who are rumored for this, And I I don't know,
Speaker 5: like it's interesting that we got this rumor very recently
Speaker 5: and then confirmation here, and you know part of that
Speaker 5: is like, well, how long is the roof? Have the
Speaker 5: Russo brothers been back on Avengers and maybe that was
Speaker 5: a big part of it where they always said, yeah,
Speaker 5: we'll come back for Secret Wars, and then part of
Speaker 5: it is okay, well, how do you guys want to
Speaker 5: transition to Secret Wars? What do you want to do
Speaker 5: for Avengers five? And maybe this is yeah, this is
Speaker 5: like their ideas. They really wanted to go doom, they
Speaker 5: really want to robber Downy for it, and so they're
Speaker 5: gonna make it happen. And so yeah, it's hard. It's
Speaker 5: hard for me to say how I'm gonna feel about
Speaker 5: this until I get that first trailer, which is gonna
Speaker 5: be a long time from now. But yeah, I'm I'm
Speaker 5: I'm skeptical at the at the current juncture, I think
Speaker 5: it is exciting and cool. I'm gonna have a fun
Speaker 5: time in the theater, no doubt, but I I I
Speaker 5: don't know. I could see my my, my future self
Speaker 5: not being too enthused with what they went for here.
Speaker 5: I think it's just it's a very risky move. Yeah,
Speaker 5: not even like Balks. Office wise, I think it's a
Speaker 5: great move, but in terms of like is the movie
Speaker 5: gonna be good? Is it gonna be as good as
Speaker 5: the last two Avengers movies and Civil War like their
Speaker 5: last part, even all the way back to Winter Soldier. Eh.
Speaker 5: Maybe not just because it's a big, bigger risk so
Speaker 5: especially because they have so much like to fill in
Speaker 5: terms of where the Avengers have been since then, and
Speaker 5: you know we have movies in between that might fill
Speaker 5: those gaps. But I'm right now, I'm sitting on that
Speaker 5: fence and I don't think I'll be off that fence
Speaker 5: for a while.
Speaker 6: I have to agree with something you just said, Dylan,
Speaker 6: but it's really funny. The Russo brothers coming back to
Speaker 6: direct Robert Downey Junior in an Avengers movie is a
Speaker 6: risky move.
Speaker 4: You're right, it is.
Speaker 6: It's just it's a context around it, right, Like never
Speaker 6: never when I thought that that was risky.
Speaker 7: And I just put this in our in our group
Speaker 7: chat saying that Pedro Pascal is owning May in twenty
Speaker 7: twenty six.
Speaker 2: No, they need to kick Mandolarin and Grogu away. This
Speaker 2: is gonna be Solo over again if Avengers comes out
Speaker 2: before Mandlin and Grogu the same way Solo just ate
Speaker 2: it and they didn't have room for it. I think
Speaker 2: they need to punt that Star Wars movie now.
Speaker 1: They need like they I know.
Speaker 5: Are just double down on it. Dropped Gladier three in
Speaker 5: that months to bring him back for that?
Speaker 1: Are you just do a Barber High released in the
Speaker 1: same day.
Speaker 6: That would be Yeah, I agree, Disney needs to move
Speaker 6: Mandalorian Clay.
Speaker 2: If you're still listening, there's a question for you on
Speaker 2: Star's a Liance this week for you and Katie, what
Speaker 2: would you guys do with that situation?
Speaker 7: Because that's so apparently Snyder got this this uh this
Speaker 7: leak to him on May tenth, and that it supposedly
Speaker 7: read Robert Downey is coming back to the MCU as
Speaker 7: an alternative multiverse Tony Stark, who is actually doctor doom Kicker.
Speaker 2: So two and a half months ago and stuff. And
Speaker 2: that's where also Rickman another scree.
Speaker 7: Thing this source is given and is about to go online.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the other Scooper, that Daniel Arpiquet that was
Speaker 2: backing this, and we talked about this last week Dylan
Speaker 2: where he said, originally Downy they were hoping it down
Speaker 2: he for an edding credits scene for deadpoolvering We're not
Speaker 2: gonna t double what the n creds scene is, but
Speaker 2: that was their hope at the time. And that would
Speaker 2: tied to a few other things maybe in that movie too.
Speaker 1: So for me, I'm.
Speaker 2: I'm I am more in line with Dylan here.
Speaker 1: Because I.
Speaker 2: Even said on the newscast like if they bring Downy
Speaker 2: back as an evil character, I would just prefer just
Speaker 2: to be evil iron Man, you know, like so like
Speaker 2: Chris had superre iron Man and that's a great story.
Speaker 2: What happens if Ironman doesn't end up in that cave
Speaker 2: and he gets worse and worse and worse where it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: he's playing a Doctor.
Speaker 1: Doom And I would be even fine that it.
Speaker 2: Say, Okay, it's Tony Stark and he doesn't become iron Man,
Speaker 2: becomes doctor Doom.
Speaker 1: But now if he's Victor von Doom as Doctor Doom,
Speaker 1: it's just what it's.
Speaker 2: It's an odd fit for me, especially because with the MCU,
Speaker 2: this is the big and I do think it's a plan,
Speaker 2: but we were talking about that before. I don't think
Speaker 2: this was definitely in the cars at all for if
Speaker 2: if the major thing worked out, you know, I think
Speaker 2: this is like a we got a backpedal on how
Speaker 2: do we go?
Speaker 1: And for me it's just I don't know how I
Speaker 1: feel about Doom.
Speaker 2: The first Doom we're getting in the MSU, and I
Speaker 2: guess maybe there's a version where they kill this Doom
Speaker 2: and then we meet the real Doom here later on,
Speaker 2: but it's still like the first.
Speaker 7: The same problem we have with no audit.
Speaker 6: I think this is threats, yes, I think, and then
Speaker 6: I had to do something different because we've seen other
Speaker 6: Doctor Dooms before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so for me, if it was, if it
Speaker 2: is the real Doom, that's where I agree dealing where
Speaker 2: I wish and Kirk and I wish it was somebody
Speaker 2: didn't have to be completely new, like sure, if that complicatory,
Speaker 2: but not the face of the franchise. I think I
Speaker 2: would have preferred someone new in that role. And that's
Speaker 2: why I wish we'll see.
Speaker 1: Trailer marketing everything. Of course they can.
Speaker 2: They've made some of the best MC movies, so they
Speaker 2: can easily turn me around on it. But for me,
Speaker 2: I feel more comfortable if oh, he's playing Evil Iron Man,
Speaker 2: he's the Avengers Zone. Great, and then that's the same
Speaker 2: thing with Doom. It's like that's a quick turnaround, and
Speaker 2: I imagine we'll talk about now I feel like Doom
Speaker 2: because the other thing they confirmed in this panel because
Speaker 2: there's not much they confirmed fantastic for the team will
Speaker 2: be in both Avengers movie And I is this guy
Speaker 2: from He can't be six one six, I don't want
Speaker 2: There's no way this guy can be six.
Speaker 6: That wouldn't make sense. And they called him Victor von Doom.
Speaker 6: But if he is from, like say the ff World,
Speaker 6: he could have been born Tony Stark and changed his
Speaker 6: name at some point because he hates his dad or whatever, like,
Speaker 6: he still could be Tony Stark, ok, but going by
Speaker 6: Victor von Doom. But I don't see any I can't
Speaker 6: say it's possible. I don't see any likely way, probable
Speaker 6: way for him to be six one six that That
Speaker 6: to me doesn't make any sense at all.
Speaker 2: No, And that to me would be a huge fumble.
Speaker 2: If it was six, that'd be too weird. Of I'm
Speaker 2: fine with Jimmy Chan playing multiple characters stuff, But if
Speaker 2: you got a guy that looks exactly like Tony Stark
Speaker 2: that's also a wealthy businessman.
Speaker 5: In the face of the MCU, I always jim a.
Speaker 6: Chan looked like two completely different characters. One was blue,
Speaker 6: he's two different suits of armor.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I also think like there's no way that
Speaker 5: with this setup of the movie being called dooms Day,
Speaker 5: him being presumably the primary villain. You know, we can
Speaker 5: only assume now, Like I don't think you put him
Speaker 5: in this movie and then have like an actual like
Speaker 5: the MS is true Doom. Like I guess if they
Speaker 5: do a multi verse thing like the six one six Doom,
Speaker 5: maybe that is a thing. But again the way that
Speaker 5: they did John Kersinsky is mister fantastic for like a
Speaker 5: short bit in multiverse, but then like, okay, we actually
Speaker 5: have a different Like I don't think they can really
Speaker 5: pull that off here, Like I think they're really committing
Speaker 5: to this. So then I guess that takes iron Man
Speaker 5: off the table for presumably those two Avengers movies Wars included, right.
Speaker 1: Unless that's the finale, is everyone's as.
Speaker 5: We have if we have if we have Doom and
Speaker 5: Avengers five with with with the Albert Downey and then
Speaker 5: six we have iron Man back, Like, I don't think that's.
Speaker 3: Cruise iron Man, right, it was not a rumor or something, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that would be the.
Speaker 4: Time to do Multiverse of Madness.
Speaker 6: We had we had been at Cumberbatch playing effectively, you know,
Speaker 6: good strange and evil strange. We've had multiple different Spider
Speaker 6: Man's we we without getting in the spoilers, we know
Speaker 6: there's more than one Deadpool in the Deadpool movie.
Speaker 4: Does the trailers show it?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 6: I I don't think getting two different variants of Robert
Speaker 6: Downey Junior's.
Speaker 4: Characters is really that weird. I mean, nothing weirder than
Speaker 4: we've seen anyway.
Speaker 1: I agree with Bran.
Speaker 2: I think we will get Tony's like an Iron Man
Speaker 2: in Secret Wars as well, I think, and you'll even
Speaker 2: get like a face off scene of Tony. What ultimate
Speaker 2: face of MCU is Tony Stark versus h Victor von
Speaker 2: Doom And uh yeah, I agree to it.
Speaker 1: I think that's part of my bum miss too.
Speaker 2: And we'll see what happens that We've never really gone
Speaker 2: the Doctor Doom calms other movies.
Speaker 1: Obviously, the fan forced.
Speaker 2: Version was like a bomb Nation, but again it's like
Speaker 2: it's it's odd. I'm I do like though, the pairing
Speaker 2: of Pedro and Downy, like if you have them as
Speaker 2: rivals college, you know, friends, that tournament rivals, I do
Speaker 2: think they're gonna have great chemistry as you know, foes
Speaker 2: with each other.
Speaker 1: And that's Downy's great, and I do think Downy can
Speaker 1: give a different performance.
Speaker 2: We saw Oppenheimer and I still could argue that's his
Speaker 2: best role ever. I think he's gonna come in and
Speaker 2: do different things. So I do have like there is
Speaker 2: pausive as well, and same thing like the Tom Holme,
Speaker 2: that moment's gonna hit.
Speaker 1: They're probably gonna put them the trailer.
Speaker 2: I guarantee you When they fight Doctor Doom, that mask
Speaker 2: comes off and Peter sees him and it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: like so there is good stuff around it. Again, it's
Speaker 2: just like it's it's like a minefield. There's lots of
Speaker 2: also very cheesy or laying things that could happen.
Speaker 4: Moregan iron Men's daughter can end up seeing them.
Speaker 2: Oh man, yeah, Pepper, maybe he's gonna kill Pepper. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's lots of stuff. Scroll Roady, you know.
Speaker 7: I think they they they're gonna have to really clear
Speaker 7: even though they said it on stage, like who's gonna
Speaker 7: play Victor von Doom? You know, the greatest actor? You know,
Speaker 7: I still think they have to say it for sure.
Speaker 7: Is it Tony playing Doctor Doom, a Tony Varren playing
Speaker 7: Doctor Doom? Or is this Victor von doom. I think
Speaker 7: they they're I'm seeing everyone's confusing, and I've seen there's
Speaker 7: a lot of people going both ways.
Speaker 1: I think they'll say that in the movie, but they
Speaker 1: won't say it before.
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna be cheeky and be like, well,
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to wait and see. And that's one
Speaker 2: thing I will say for pausitive, like the marketing wise,
Speaker 2: his poster on the face to me, it does or
Speaker 2: his face on the poster, it doesn't matter what role is.
Speaker 2: And I think that helps automatically because there's enough people
Speaker 2: that will go and see it's iron Man, be like, oh,
Speaker 2: he's a bad guy in this one.
Speaker 5: Like even trailer Robert exactly what not iron Man?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Like they will even watch trailers and they'll watch trailers
Speaker 2: and not even understand that he's the villain of the movie, Like, oh,
Speaker 2: I guess they're just having a disagreement like civil war,
Speaker 2: you know, Like I think down he does. Like it's
Speaker 2: already guaranteed billion and like I said, you're gonna get
Speaker 2: that poster of him and Jackman facing off, So money wise,
Speaker 2: it's fine.
Speaker 1: It's all down the execution.
Speaker 7: Now, you know, God, how much money did it back
Speaker 7: up the brinkstruck for this time a lot.
Speaker 2: I would not be surprised. This is his biggest payday
Speaker 2: yet by far, Like it's He's.
Speaker 7: He's how many movies now?
Speaker 1: At least two?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: I'd imagine they introduce him in Doom and he dies
Speaker 1: in Secret Wars.
Speaker 7: I think, well, we got too and both Avengers movies
Speaker 7: were almost guaranteed. The question is how much beyond that?
Speaker 3: But we're not building it up.
Speaker 1: I think end credit n F four. That's my prediction.
Speaker 4: Is there usually a uh building it up?
Speaker 5: Is there usually?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 5: How is doctoring usually involved in a secret or storyline?
Speaker 5: That's a character Chris the.
Speaker 7: Original, both of them, He's a huge part of it.
Speaker 1: M hmm.
Speaker 4: I'll elaborate for us.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just a little bit more detail.
Speaker 7: Christians in this in the sense of like the very
Speaker 7: first one that was basically for you know, selling toys.
Speaker 7: At that point, he they came to the they all
Speaker 7: got transported to fight it off in battle World at
Speaker 7: that point. But in the Hickman Run the this ties
Speaker 7: into the incursions that are going on, like all the
Speaker 7: world's come like colliding with each other, fighting each other,
Speaker 7: and then when the final one happens, Doom makes a
Speaker 7: deal to basically rule on this what's left of the
Speaker 7: world and right desolate Earth at that point that he's
Speaker 7: finally king and everything's come to pass because of him.
Speaker 2: And that's where if he is, like Brent said, of
Speaker 2: like he was when I started with to Victor von Dum,
Speaker 2: I still see you could give him like a little
Speaker 2: turn at the end, right, because there's like he didn't
Speaker 2: have those moments with tom Ol and Spider Man of
Speaker 2: like you were my you were a hero in this world,
Speaker 2: kind of similar Deadpool Wolverreem. But he could make that
Speaker 2: maybe a sacrifice near the end to you know, because
Speaker 2: Doube is also not always just a clean cut villain
Speaker 2: like sometimes of course he wants to show the world,
Speaker 2: but there's layers to him, right, and he has done
Speaker 2: i'll say, not good things, but like me in the
Speaker 2: middle sort of thing.
Speaker 8: I think you get a Thano Swanda scenario or on
Speaker 8: its like you took everything from me and doctor Doom
Speaker 8: fantas like I don't even know.
Speaker 5: Who you are. She was the same way, same line. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I really don't want a situation where their Avengers are like, okay,
Speaker 5: we can't fight doctor Doom. We need to go to
Speaker 5: a multiverse and get an Iron Man to fight him.
Speaker 5: Like that would be the worst timeline for me. Like
Speaker 5: I like multiverses, like weird cameos and characters coming back,
Speaker 5: but that's I don't want that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's gonna be interesting. And yeah
Speaker 2: F four, Like I said, they confirm that they'll be
Speaker 2: all three in those, so we talk all off air.
Speaker 2: Maybe there's some time, that's why they took a bit
Speaker 2: to get some casting. But yeah, we're gonna the F
Speaker 2: four is gonna play a big role into the uh
Speaker 2: the MCU coming up, So I guess it's good for
Speaker 2: four fans, you know.
Speaker 8: So this this really gets me excited though, just for
Speaker 8: more What F episodes whenever those come back around, like
Speaker 8: in the future. Just now that we can really play
Speaker 8: in such a larger sandbox.
Speaker 4: Kind of feels like a What F episode?
Speaker 5: Yeah, where's the line?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh geez, well, is there anything specifically the breakdown here?
Speaker 2: Because I've got Secret Wars twenty twenty seven, Doomsday twenty six,
Speaker 2: Russo's doing both downy is you know, Doom? No x men,
Speaker 2: so people didn't watch Bannel, there's no x Men.
Speaker 5: So now I really we're talking about there was a
Speaker 5: there was a music number with something I don't even
Speaker 5: know what it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So now I really feel like they are they're
Speaker 2: leaving X Men un till after this for they'll have
Speaker 2: like those multiverse characters. Yeah, have a room because now
Speaker 2: it's like, if you do Doom, that is the thing
Speaker 2: of like what do you do next? Well, he got
Speaker 2: you know, sinister Magneto Apocalypse. There's a lot of big
Speaker 2: characters that can fill that big villain role.
Speaker 5: So from Doomsday to Apocalypse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we could. You know, maybe Danny would play him too.
Speaker 2: They'll come back.
Speaker 5: I've never been before, the robotic voice for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, Marvel or sorry Marble lines.
Speaker 2: Boys, you guys got any points or questions to bring up,
Speaker 2: because we've got a few things to talk about nonm
Speaker 2: wal relates to let you guys go, but anything specifically
Speaker 2: for your guys' episode to bring up or say or
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, I.
Speaker 7: Mean I think one of the things we were wondering
Speaker 7: is like, oh, we're gonna get a whole new slate.
Speaker 7: They did, and they stuck to their guns saying they're
Speaker 7: gonna they're gonna keep it, you know, tight tight with
Speaker 7: what we have. I think when we get to next year,
Speaker 7: I think they're going to have to do something of
Speaker 7: giving us a little bit more of what's going on.
Speaker 2: They did, they did, we hear it all when they
Speaker 2: They didn't say when they're filming Avengers yet though, right,
Speaker 2: because that's.
Speaker 1: Start okay.
Speaker 2: I was just trying to head canon. I wonder next
Speaker 2: year if we'll have any teas or anything like that, right,
Speaker 2: because there'll be no Comic Con for twenty twenty six,
Speaker 2: so that would be the Comic Con next year. So
Speaker 2: literally a year from now, boys, we will probably be
Speaker 2: talking about a Doom's Day.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because Coutain American Thunderbults will be out already at
Speaker 5: that point, so they'll need something new to talk about.
Speaker 7: Oh and they're you know, the the idea of the
Speaker 7: rumors we had heard that SDCC was going to be
Speaker 7: strictly films. They stuck with that, so d twenty three
Speaker 7: it's going to be everything with streaming and animation, so
Speaker 7: that that kept with it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I mean, I think we've all said it like we're
Speaker 7: the title with Fantastic four, eh, I get you know,
Speaker 7: brought up the points that saying, okay, you need a
Speaker 7: Diffrench teach yourself. But there could have been better subtitles
Speaker 7: than that.
Speaker 4: There's better subtitles than first Steps.
Speaker 7: Sure, yeah, so but it's okay, like they had their
Speaker 7: mic drop moment. That's what they needed, that's what they
Speaker 7: wanted to do.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, they got that trending moment. And honestly,
Speaker 2: the thing whatever you about the reveal, kudos fantastic, phenomenal,
Speaker 2: pure WWE way of revealing down you have, you got
Speaker 2: all the dooms there and he walks out, takes a
Speaker 2: mask off, like ten out of ten.
Speaker 1: For the reveal that because that's a moment for that crowd.
Speaker 2: That must have been probably the last one of the
Speaker 2: least people you're expecting to pop up that mask and
Speaker 2: it's so much better than him just walking out, So
Speaker 2: I kudos to them. But uh yeah, Brent, any any
Speaker 2: last thoughts on what we saw today.
Speaker 4: I mean, this is like I said earlier, this is
Speaker 4: the story of the corn right here.
Speaker 1: Absolutely yeah, that's I mean, they won the.
Speaker 6: Weekend everything else is and also ran including what was
Speaker 6: in this panel.
Speaker 4: So that's pretty much. I'm sure we'll talk more about
Speaker 4: it this week on the podcast.
Speaker 1: Exactly. It'll be interviews whatnot.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you guys catch out Marvel Lions usually every Friday.
Speaker 2: But right now, go check out that episode they got
Speaker 2: Deadpool Mulverine spoilers.
Speaker 1: Very good episode.
Speaker 2: I'm fifteen minutes left of it, so I'm interesting where
Speaker 2: the ranks and everything like that. But yeah, promote where
Speaker 2: you guys are and uh and then.
Speaker 6: Go ahead Brett yeah, uh yeah, Brent tach Prime on
Speaker 6: all the social media's I don't always check them all,
Speaker 6: but that's where I'm at home. I'm just I opened
Speaker 6: Blue Sky for the first time in like six months
Speaker 6: to forgot about that one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was the thing.
Speaker 7: I got that on my I've got that on my phone.
Speaker 7: I just don't open it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you can find me on all the socials at
Speaker 7: Chris Balga. New episode of World's Finest True Believers is
Speaker 7: dropping tomorrow morning. Uh looking at Green Lantern Rebirth with
Speaker 7: my buddy Omar from Nearman condition. So check that out
Speaker 7: and thank you all for letting us do another crossover.
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 1: Thanks thank you for to it next year.
Speaker 5: See you guys fifty years.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, So you know there's a few little DC things.
Speaker 2: DC things talk about but I just want to go
Speaker 2: here first because I've been like one rile running wild
Speaker 2: with it the whole time and talking about one actor
Speaker 2: coming back to role. We're like, oh, like, is this
Speaker 2: a good idea? This fucking Dexter news guys, like all
Speaker 2: we have left for talking about Dexter and then just
Speaker 2: two DC trails that's it.
Speaker 1: So we'll be and this will be on the podcasting.
Speaker 2: So they announced yesterday that Okay, they're doing Original Sin
Speaker 2: that's coming on December, So fuck me because I might
Speaker 2: be going to some so you guys are gonna hold
Speaker 2: that down. Maybe I'll send in some thoughts. But so
Speaker 2: that's happening December. The prequel series with you know, Young Dexter.
Speaker 2: You they did announce that Michael Sea Hall is voicing
Speaker 2: his inner voice, so young guy doesn't get to do
Speaker 2: the voiceover.
Speaker 1: It's Dexter coming in and so he's doing that.
Speaker 2: But then in the same panel they go, well, you know,
Speaker 2: we're also working on something else, and we're working on
Speaker 2: this show that's gonna come out next summer.
Speaker 1: So they are.
Speaker 2: They sounds like they're shooting very soon next summer. It's
Speaker 2: called Dexter Resurrection. It's gonna pick up right where it
Speaker 2: left off. Set Like that's a quote from Michael Sea,
Speaker 2: all right where it left off. Uh, he is starring
Speaker 2: in the show, and he this is also quote from him.
Speaker 2: It is planned they're doing one season, but multiple seasons.
Speaker 1: Like if they getta go, they're gonna go multiple seasons.
Speaker 2: So the show is just back back. They're just here.
Speaker 2: So mister mass thoughts because we thought, you know, you
Speaker 2: get an ending. Everybody almost everybody's like, big Botch didn't
Speaker 2: do it well, you hat to, So like, Okay, we're
Speaker 2: gonna come back. We're gonna redo it, get a better ending.
Speaker 2: I think, an ending that still people didn't like entirely
Speaker 2: love but everyone agreed this is a much better way,
Speaker 2: much better season to round up the character. We can
Speaker 2: be happy with this, right and prequel okay, sure do
Speaker 2: a prequel. But now you got him coming back a
Speaker 2: show right like right after he's starring. Sounds like it
Speaker 2: said the plans just to keep going. What are your
Speaker 2: thoughts on this? What's your excitement level? You know?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I don't really want any of this,
Speaker 5: but I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't want new.
Speaker 5: Blood, though, and I ended up liking that show. It's
Speaker 5: a good time. So it's just this doesn't feel like
Speaker 5: a character or a franchise to me that needs to
Speaker 5: be fucking nilked the way it is. It just it's
Speaker 5: strange to me. But you know what numbers do numbers?
Speaker 5: Apparently that show is really big.
Speaker 2: It was New Blood, well it did, like they they
Speaker 2: did something where they're like, we hit like a billion
Speaker 2: watch like apparently was and it's a massive hit for it.
Speaker 5: And what I saw is that like even just recently
Speaker 5: randomly like spiked again for some reason, like just yeah,
Speaker 5: all these couple of years later, so people like Gaster yeah,
Speaker 5: and so it makes sense. And honestly, when it comes
Speaker 5: down to like the prequel show with him voicing it,
Speaker 5: that's really weird. I feel bad whoever gets cast in
Speaker 5: that role. That's just it's strange. And I also like,
Speaker 5: I guess it's like a fan servicey thing, but like
Speaker 5: I can't think of a story reason why that would
Speaker 5: be the thing to do. I think it's just like
Speaker 5: they don't want to have a dexter thing that doesn't
Speaker 5: have Michael Sea Hall in it because they know it
Speaker 5: would just bomb and people would not want to watch it.
Speaker 5: I suppose in terms of this resurrected thing, it's incredibly stupid.
Speaker 5: It's you know, unnecessary, it doesn't make any sense. But
Speaker 5: you know what, out of all of these things, like
Speaker 5: it's the most exciting thing for me in that sense,
Speaker 5: because like if you're gonna bring Dexter back, or if
Speaker 5: you're not, not bring him back like Michael C. Hall,
Speaker 5: but if you're gonna continue doing this show, then you
Speaker 5: need Michael C. Hall. And if like you know what,
Speaker 5: we're just gonna handway of him getting shot in the
Speaker 5: chest several times or once or whoever many times, if
Speaker 5: you're gonna bring back a dead man, like, you know what,
Speaker 5: you got to bring back the man himself for it.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I was also because me and you were
Speaker 5: talking about this last time when we were, you know,
Speaker 5: dropping in war zone there that like I'm surprised he
Speaker 5: wants to do this, Like I don't know what he's
Speaker 5: really doing. Like career wise, I don't think I've ever
Speaker 5: seen him in anything other than he likes a lot.
Speaker 2: Of Broadway stuff. He's a big like he likes to
Speaker 2: do stage plays and stuff. He did a British shoal
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. But yeah, he doesn't doesn't
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So, like I wonder if it's one of those
Speaker 5: things we talked about with Scourney Weaver and Aliens where
Speaker 5: it's like, well, they showed up with a ship ton
Speaker 5: of money. I could not say no to that kind
Speaker 5: of thing. Maybe it's maybe it's that, but I'm kind
Speaker 5: of surprised, like careerized that he wants to continue this,
Speaker 5: Like I don't know, maybe feels okay. The last couple
Speaker 5: of seasons of the show were not well received. The
Speaker 5: new Bolt came back and like was well received, so
Speaker 5: it's like, okay, it seems like a good end point,
Speaker 5: but he wants more. So, uh, you know what, I'll
Speaker 5: be there. I'm gonna watch it and uh.
Speaker 2: That should be the takeline for the new season dex respection.
Speaker 2: He wants more. Yeah, ah yeah.
Speaker 1: Mister Field.
Speaker 8: Well, the first thing I did when I heard this
Speaker 8: news as I went and tried to find like just
Speaker 8: a rewatchable scene and just how he died and.
Speaker 2: Oh, after you go, I have me and Emily Dbathes.
Speaker 2: I have some stats for you.
Speaker 3: Stats. I like stats, give me some stats.
Speaker 8: But yeah, I think they set that whole scene up
Speaker 8: just that Okay, yeah, he is dead.
Speaker 5: He's dead.
Speaker 2: The showrunner when the show came out said he was
Speaker 2: dead and they asked Michael C. Hall that and he's like, oh,
Speaker 2: is that true, And he's like, well, I can't really
Speaker 2: speak much to that. So like they said that he
Speaker 2: was dead, so I think it was. He's like, I
Speaker 2: don't want to say anything. All he said is it's
Speaker 2: cold out there. That's what he said.
Speaker 1: It's cold there, which is like, because it would have
Speaker 1: something to do with like slowing your bloodstream.
Speaker 3: And say they're going to play off that, I'm not
Speaker 3: sure they're going too.
Speaker 2: And the status because me and I'm looking this up,
Speaker 2: twenty four percent of people that are shot in the
Speaker 2: heart survive.
Speaker 1: They do twenty four percent, which I was a lot
Speaker 1: higher than I thought.
Speaker 5: But you need really good odds, you need to be
Speaker 5: really cold.
Speaker 2: Well no, you need like right away medical attention with
Speaker 2: experts and everything.
Speaker 8: Like if he was shot in the heart, maybe it
Speaker 8: was well, I think he does his own he does
Speaker 8: his own medical tension.
Speaker 3: Right, It's true he was.
Speaker 2: Because I watched he tells him shooting right here and
Speaker 2: it's in the it's where the.
Speaker 3: Heart would maybe he was lying. My heart's actually over here.
Speaker 5: So he's probably got a really shrunken heart. So maybe
Speaker 5: it just actually wentz right past, like the cringe. She's
Speaker 5: the opposite Grand Show.
Speaker 8: But I think that if you go online, you'll find
Speaker 8: a plethora of like twenty twenty two YouTube videos and
Speaker 8: just people.
Speaker 3: Like, oh, Decks are alive or dead, and all.
Speaker 8: Those people are feeling vindicated now because they're there.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Remember when we live stream, that was our biggest live stream.
Speaker 2: That was crazy, like a thousand people watching, and that
Speaker 2: that's the number of numbers we pull We had, Like
Speaker 2: the chat was going crazy and there were so many
Speaker 2: people in there that I had to shoot down like
Speaker 2: a but he's still alive, he's done this.
Speaker 3: They're coming back. Watch Travis, You're coming for you.
Speaker 1: I gotta watch that video a way for the not vacation.
Speaker 1: But there's so many people. But again, I don't think
Speaker 1: that was the tension.
Speaker 2: I think they did that the show did way better
Speaker 2: than they expected, and they went, hey, how much is
Speaker 2: it going to take for you to get back? I
Speaker 2: don't think they ever intended because they're calling the show resurrection,
Speaker 2: like there's no way they intended, like we're gonna pretend
Speaker 2: he's that and then do a sequel series what three
Speaker 2: years later?
Speaker 1: Four years later? Like, I don't buy it. I don't
Speaker 1: buy it at all.
Speaker 3: It has it really been that long?
Speaker 1: Yeah, history covid. I thought right when new book came out, right,
Speaker 1: I'd say it.
Speaker 2: Was new Blood.
Speaker 3: Still thinking about Benison to this day.
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty one, so it's been it's been three this
Speaker 2: it'll be four years since it ended.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, on Time two New shows. Yeah,
Speaker 9: it's funny because you had told me about it, I
Speaker 9: think last night, and I was just shocked, like it
Speaker 9: just doesn't really make sense. But I guess we're going
Speaker 9: that direction of the especially like the title being resurrection
Speaker 9: with the occult and everything, because what was it you
Speaker 9: told me that they they kind of dive into that
Speaker 9: in the book.
Speaker 2: In the books, there's yeah, in the books, his dark
Speaker 2: Passenger is not an emotion. It's a literal thing that's
Speaker 2: like gleaned on, like it's a shadow that's gone on
Speaker 2: to his body.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're doing I don't think that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the shadowing. I don't think they're doing that.
Speaker 2: I hope we're not going that route.
Speaker 3: So yeah.
Speaker 9: I mean, like the title too, is like kind of
Speaker 9: interesting because it like almost leans in that direction that
Speaker 9: they like actually are resurrecting him.
Speaker 3: But I don't know. I guess if they do.
Speaker 2: It, imagine it's the first Superna just like chanting and
Speaker 2: you know it's the Dexter.
Speaker 9: If it's like a super cheesy way that they bring
Speaker 9: them back, I hope it's, like I hope it's like
Speaker 9: also just a theme that they have for this show
Speaker 9: that it's just like getting.
Speaker 5: Bringing back does bringing back everyone? They all survive, survived
Speaker 5: the explosion.
Speaker 9: Those characters, so let's do it. It's funny though, because
Speaker 9: like for the when I watched the trailer for what
Speaker 9: was it, First Blood?
Speaker 1: Is that new Blood?
Speaker 3: That's prequel? Original?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Sorry so yeah Original Sin has like that they
Speaker 2: redid the opening, which I love.
Speaker 3: I love that trailer. I thought it was great.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought that was doing the chills.
Speaker 2: Chills.
Speaker 1: No, they do the same thing where he wakes up
Speaker 1: and the bugs on him and he goes to hit
Speaker 1: it but he misses, and show's like, oh, he's not
Speaker 1: like the Dexter yet, He's still he's still learning and everything.
Speaker 9: Watching that and then because because it was just something new.
Speaker 9: I thought that's what it was like. I didn't realize
Speaker 9: this was something separate from Resurrection, and then like especially,
Speaker 9: it's just like a prequel. I'm just thinking of young
Speaker 9: Dexter over here, and I just I was just giggling on.
Speaker 2: Myself and he looks nothing like that.
Speaker 9: I didn't have that hair at all in the film.
Speaker 2: And I'm so curious how they do it, because you
Speaker 2: guys probably don't remember a continuity. But in the show,
Speaker 2: he's Billy up to killing. He finally kills someone and
Speaker 2: he brings Harry and he's like, oh, look at what
Speaker 2: I did, and Harry's like, fuck, I made mistake and
Speaker 2: kills himself. Where this looks like Harry's like, oh, what's
Speaker 2: my son up? It's like, I guess what they're probably
Speaker 2: that's why hate prequels.
Speaker 1: They're probably gonna wreck cond of that.
Speaker 2: He never saw him do the act, and he was
Speaker 2: fine with it until he saw Dexter standing over someone
Speaker 2: with blood. But like, that's not how the show posts.
Speaker 2: The show post it is. He yeah, he saw what
Speaker 2: his son did and think, man, I I fucked up
Speaker 2: big time, and I'm discussing myself and I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: kill myself.
Speaker 1: But now like he's all, yeah.
Speaker 2: He's all into it, like, oh look, we're making coffee together,
Speaker 2: gonna go give you some tips, you know.
Speaker 9: So yeah, it's it's funny.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's.
Speaker 1: Plays in older hairs and takes place three years after
Speaker 1: New Blood.
Speaker 9: With that hair, they bring back the wig and everything.
Speaker 9: I mean, I'm gonna be there regardless. I've been itching
Speaker 9: for Dexter actually recently, so it's kind of funny that
Speaker 9: we're getting this news.
Speaker 3: I've been wanting to like rewatch the show.
Speaker 1: So it's on Netflix right now.
Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly, so it's nice and easy to watch. But yeah,
Speaker 9: I mean I'm gonna be there regardless. I really did
Speaker 9: like that little teaser trailer for like the pre cool series.
Speaker 9: It's I mean, yeah, just definitely calling back to that
Speaker 9: original opening, and there's some great content in there. I
Speaker 9: feel like new Blood was much better than some lesser
Speaker 9: parts of the original show, but not quite the highs
Speaker 9: of what that first show hits. So I'm curious where
Speaker 9: both of these will kind of line up. But I
Speaker 9: feel like without Michael see Hall, my interest for these
Speaker 9: is like fucking ground zero, Like like it's super, super low.
Speaker 9: But to have him back, that's that's really exciting.
Speaker 1: And are there for the prequel? I know he used
Speaker 1: to do there for SQUL series with the propels.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I will be the voice.
Speaker 1: That's what got you in.
Speaker 5: Cast.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they filmed that. It's coming on December. They're
Speaker 2: they're done done. Who is the young guy named like
Speaker 2: someone Gibson or something. He looks like enough like them.
Speaker 2: Apparently they're the same height. They met for the first
Speaker 2: time yesterday, so that's cool. They only met on zoom,
Speaker 2: but like enough, like he's a ginger they're saying similar height.
Speaker 5: I don't think he has extra or ginger. Oh yeah,
Speaker 5: isn't he brown hair?
Speaker 1: No, Michael C.
Speaker 2: Hall has brown hair, but not that's that's brown hair.
Speaker 3: That's brown hair.
Speaker 5: That's brown hair.
Speaker 2: No, it's are you fucking we're gonna do this? They're
Speaker 2: gonna do this live on air. That Dexter doesn't have
Speaker 2: ginger hair. No way, am I go to see Hall
Speaker 2: has ginger hair? Like I think it's gone darker. Now,
Speaker 2: I will give you this, it's gotten darker when the
Speaker 2: older he is.
Speaker 5: But the Dexter Wikipedia Dexter is a tall, handsome Caucasian
Speaker 5: Mail in his mid thirties with auburn hair.
Speaker 3: That's that's auburn is like right between definitely ginger.
Speaker 5: That's not ginger though, but that's what auburn is, Not
Speaker 5: ginger but her.
Speaker 2: But they get love. They are in the ginger category.
Speaker 1: They're with the gingers.
Speaker 5: It really depends on the lighting. Half the pictures on Google,
Speaker 5: I'm like, Okay, you guys are right and half you
Speaker 5: are dead wrong.
Speaker 2: Dylan, You're completely right as I look at because sometimes
Speaker 2: he's very dark.
Speaker 1: But here's a good.
Speaker 5: Size seared is very red apparently. Yeah, so here's what
Speaker 5: you don't see very often in Dexter.
Speaker 2: Here it is so I think good thing is just
Speaker 2: a baby ad.
Speaker 1: That's the new guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that ad.
Speaker 1: I was like, what the fuck?
Speaker 5: So, like, I think the cake is way too innocent
Speaker 5: to be playing Dexter. I guess it is original. Well,
Speaker 5: it is original sin though, right, he's he hasn't turned
Speaker 5: to the dark side yet.
Speaker 1: That's my point. Like there's two things.
Speaker 2: One like, no, we'll believe there's not traum put myself over,
Speaker 2: but my hair used to bleed, like when I bleed shit,
Speaker 2: it used to naturally be that color. And the older
Speaker 2: I got, it got darker. I think the same thing
Speaker 2: happens to Michael Cley Hall, where I think he was
Speaker 2: very ginger in his early years and now the older
Speaker 2: he gets. That's why those layer seasons he does look
Speaker 2: more brown. That's my thing where it's just like Mike,
Speaker 2: you can never do this right. That's the risk of
Speaker 2: a prequel. It's like the Hansole thing. Michael Sea Hall
Speaker 2: is like very distinguished features like he just he There's
Speaker 2: no one that looks like Michael see Hall in my opinion.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of guys that look like Patrick gives it.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, and that's not bad thing. I'm not
Speaker 1: like he's a good looking dude, not like not say
Speaker 1: anything like.
Speaker 2: That's just like when I saw the first photos, I
Speaker 2: was like, it screams what I worried about. It is like, oh, babies,
Speaker 2: like Dexter's first baby, you know whatever that expression is,
Speaker 2: like whatever the term is, like, especially they.
Speaker 3: Have not sure you're there.
Speaker 1: It's like baby's first drink and it's like if somewhere.
Speaker 5: To drink, No, you can discount Dexter.
Speaker 2: Because I've never draanked alcohol. R Let's say were all together,
Speaker 2: I'm drinking coffee. Oh, baby's first drink. Like it's like
Speaker 2: an insult kind of right, So it's like babies first dexter.
Speaker 2: And like the fact that they got like young Masuka,
Speaker 2: they got young.
Speaker 5: Maria, who's young doakes, they got a young dough.
Speaker 1: They don't got young dogs.
Speaker 5: They you can't recast do they can't bring him back.
Speaker 1: So they got young hair, young dead like that's I
Speaker 1: think there's.
Speaker 5: The hairy he could probably still pull it off. That
Speaker 5: there's a dough.
Speaker 2: It's like wet on American summer where he's fifty years
Speaker 2: old playing Like, Yeah, I think there's a.
Speaker 3: Degree here that that works.
Speaker 8: When you say like young Masuka and all that, and
Speaker 8: I say that lightly because he's walking out of his
Speaker 8: graduation gear and everything like that. So I'm assuming he's
Speaker 8: graduated college and he's got a job lined up in
Speaker 8: the department, right, And so that's where you're gonna get
Speaker 8: I don't I'm hoping people don't think he's.
Speaker 3: In high school. He's just graduating or something like that.
Speaker 2: But I just I just don't need to be a
Speaker 2: young That's what Happy does is done here. I don't
Speaker 2: need to be a young version of every character hair
Speaker 2: very dead, Massuk.
Speaker 1: And Laguerto.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Like it's just like Devin Harry Yes the rest No.
Speaker 2: No, Like I'd be fine with one if you said,
Speaker 2: and I'd be like, okay, probably just get Masuka because
Speaker 2: get some fun actor, make some gross Parendshe no, no,
Speaker 2: out of the out of the the other one. Oh
Speaker 2: yeah the police yeah police category Yeah not no, not.
Speaker 2: Jennifer Cartner is back, you know which I think Mike
Speaker 2: is pointing out that Churristian Slater is playing young.
Speaker 1: Harry, older than when Harry, like James mar.
Speaker 2: Started the Dexter series, so and again they also look
Speaker 2: nothing fucking like Christian Slayer.
Speaker 1: And James Mamer way more than this.
Speaker 2: So my two things are is one, I think this
Speaker 2: is a risky move for this show. It's super odd
Speaker 2: for the prequel to be happening and then the sequel
Speaker 2: be the year after. I feel like there might be
Speaker 2: tons of people now to go, eh, watch an episode,
Speaker 2: go out wait for the real guy, because now he's coming.
Speaker 2: Before this would scratch it. It's like, oh, I really
Speaker 2: want to see Dexter, but that show's over, but here
Speaker 2: it is. But now it's like they've literally said they
Speaker 2: could go on for multiple seasons of the real guy
Speaker 2: being back.
Speaker 1: I'm all in on that. Who knows.
Speaker 2: Hopefully the show just has good writing and good acting
Speaker 2: and it will, you know, fulfilled. And maybe this is
Speaker 2: just I don't know if they're they haven't said with
Speaker 2: the show multiple seasons. Maybe this is just a one
Speaker 2: and done too. Maybe it's just, hey, we had a
Speaker 2: story we want to tell. Yeah, after he graduate college
Speaker 2: and just some early adventures filmed some holes. But for me,
Speaker 2: it is the classic George Bush expression, fool me once,
Speaker 2: shame on you, full me twice, full can't get fooled again.
Speaker 2: These guys had two shots to in this show already,
Speaker 2: and in my opinion, it was not perfect, but they did.
Speaker 2: The full circle arc of Dexter realized, even though he's
Speaker 2: done many great things, he is a terrible person.
Speaker 1: He was a serial killer.
Speaker 2: That finale ended with him killing an innocent cop, an
Speaker 2: innocent cop that his son was like a father figure,
Speaker 2: like he was towards his son.
Speaker 1: He just killed him in cold Blood's because he didn't
Speaker 1: want to go in jail.
Speaker 2: He Harrison makes that speech, Dexter goes, you're right, you
Speaker 2: gotta shoot me.
Speaker 1: The character's arc is completed, and it's not like the
Speaker 1: dead Pool Wolverine where it's like, hey, that's Logan's Wolverine.
Speaker 1: Now this is a new Wolverine who has a new arc.
Speaker 1: Like that's how we can kind of go, okay, make
Speaker 1: this work. This is the same guy. His story was finished.
Speaker 1: It's done. They completed the arc. They did the breaking
Speaker 1: Bad Walter White thing.
Speaker 2: If they realize, fuck, I am a terrible person and
Speaker 2: I should not be on this earth. And now he's there,
Speaker 2: and because now the only thing to do with him,
Speaker 2: I imagine is like a redemption arc.
Speaker 1: I guess. I don't know. I don't know if he's
Speaker 1: like just full more back because I.
Speaker 2: Don't know what his he's he's not choosing suicide, but
Speaker 2: pretty much he told his son to shoot him.
Speaker 1: He could have ran, like he chose death.
Speaker 2: So I just don't know what reason the Dexter Morgan
Speaker 2: character has to go on unless it's some shit like
Speaker 2: they like recruit him and he's like in the FBI
Speaker 2: and he's like helping him out, Like I really don't
Speaker 2: know what they're gonna do. I think I'm finally gonna
Speaker 2: get my trial, you know, now, because he's back, you know,
Speaker 2: but because that's one thing they did leave tons on
Speaker 2: the floor. Right, Remember how hyped we were when that
Speaker 2: episode in Dexter's girlfriend calls Batisse and he's like, I'll
Speaker 2: be there. And now I'm like, oh my god, like,
Speaker 2: finally the Miami stuff's coming back, crash on Dexter and
Speaker 2: then no, Dexter just got shot in the woods, Like oh, well,
Speaker 2: why do you introduce that? Yeah, I think they did realize. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think they realized, oh fuck, we could have. He
Speaker 2: even said that in the interview dex Michael Sea Hall said,
Speaker 2: we realized there's a lot more we could explore, and
Speaker 2: I think there is tons but it's just one of
Speaker 2: those it's too late for me.
Speaker 1: You did it. Now, I'm just like Gurklan, I'm a sucker.
Speaker 1: Here's my works. I'll be there.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll watch even in the Soular reviews. I'll review
Speaker 2: because Dexter is one of my favorite time all time shows,
Speaker 2: dex with my favorite characters.
Speaker 1: I love Michael Sea Hall. So I am part of
Speaker 1: the problem.
Speaker 2: I am the problem, just like some of these sequel
Speaker 2: movies where I go, oh, I doing this is stupid.
Speaker 1: Are they gonna get my rating?
Speaker 2: And my money. Yeah, I'll get Paramount Plus to watch
Speaker 2: Dexter and I'll watch every fucking episode and there I.
Speaker 1: Am right, and maybe we'll be there to skewer it.
Speaker 2: But I just think it's a it is a it.
Speaker 2: This feels definitely just purely money motivated for everybody. Michael
Speaker 2: Sea Hall Paramount, like there's no reason to continue Original Sin. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's fine. A sequel series that's gonna go on multiple seasons,
Speaker 2: my goodness.
Speaker 8: And don't know it's Showtime just picking different platforms to
Speaker 8: distribute on BECAU. Last time we had Crave for new
Speaker 8: Blood and this time it's on Paramount, So yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know how's gonna work for us in Canada.
Speaker 2: I could still be on Crave. There could be a
Speaker 2: deal with Dexter. So I'm just saying in America it's
Speaker 2: on Paramount Plus, but you're right that it could be
Speaker 2: because we have Paramount Plus out here now. So and
Speaker 2: I really don't know.
Speaker 1: I can't remember which I think Showtime is with CBS,
Speaker 1: I think and they're like a hole over So yeah,
Speaker 1: either way, we'll we'll get it. But what do you guys,
Speaker 1: del what would be your pitch of Like they say Hey,
Speaker 1: we're doing the show.
Speaker 2: What do you want to see? Like, do you want
Speaker 2: some to try and start a new life with new personality?
Speaker 2: Does he go after hair? Not go after hair?
Speaker 9: So?
Speaker 2: But like does he try to reconnect with him? Is
Speaker 2: it back to Miami? Like what do you envision would be?
Speaker 2: Like something I at least interests you to go, Okay,
Speaker 2: there's there's a story there for mister Morgan.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's I don't think I can give the best
Speaker 5: pitch only because I've won ever watched the show once.
Speaker 5: I never did a rewatch of it, didn't do that
Speaker 5: before New Blood, and then I haven't rewatched New Blood
Speaker 5: obviously either. But I don't I I don't really want
Speaker 5: a redemption arc just because that's not why I'm watching
Speaker 5: this show, uh in the first place. You know, I'm
Speaker 5: I'm here to watch this sicko Dexter and his his
Speaker 5: craziness and all that going on. I mean, I think
Speaker 5: it would be interesting to revisit some of the older characters,
Speaker 5: characters that are still around, you know, they're the dark
Speaker 5: ages of the show. But I'd be down for for
Speaker 5: Hannah to come back. Potentially maybe there's something Oh yeah,
Speaker 5: didn't she just like randomly cancer, right, I totally forgot
Speaker 5: about that, So that's how much that was just a
Speaker 5: random fact thorn into that season. He was shot in
Speaker 5: the heart and survived. So maybe she had cancer but
Speaker 5: she survived it.
Speaker 2: Or I agree, that would have been a great thing
Speaker 2: to pick up on as he goes fine Hannah years later.
Speaker 5: But yeah, and then, I mean, I don't know how
Speaker 5: you can get away with not doing in the sun
Speaker 5: unless I guess he just moves and he's like, I
Speaker 5: can't be in your life, kid, But like I don't
Speaker 5: even then like do what they But honestly, like I
Speaker 5: feel like you just go back to what Dexter was
Speaker 5: like in the first few seasons and you just do that,
Speaker 5: and we kind of find some like hamstrong way to
Speaker 5: get there. But I think the cleaner way to do
Speaker 5: it would just be who cares about the older characters.
Speaker 5: Let's just have him in a new location. He's just Dexter.
Speaker 5: He's doing his thing. You know, he can be going
Speaker 5: through some issues, but we're just like, really, like, you
Speaker 5: don't need any of the other people to sell the
Speaker 5: show for people to watch the show. You just him,
Speaker 5: And so I think the easiest thing is to take
Speaker 5: that and go in a new direction with it and
Speaker 5: not worry about the older characters and how we connect things.
Speaker 5: And then yeah, like as you I totally read with
Speaker 5: that hand out thing, and like Batista being in that season.
Speaker 2: So Luman and Julia Stiles, she was still kicking for
Speaker 2: a character I don't remember she laughed because she killed
Speaker 2: the people and then her dark pasture was gone. I
Speaker 2: fucking hate Lumin. So I don't want Lumin anywhere near
Speaker 2: this show by no people who like her. But yeah,
Speaker 2: she just didn't love Dexter anymore because he was a killer.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and she's not right. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 5: I don't know. You could really do whatever, because you know,
Speaker 5: you're saying that twenty four percent of people survive getting
Speaker 5: shot in the heart, but I'm sure those people that
Speaker 5: changed their life significantly change their outlook. Or maybe if
Speaker 5: they got shot in the heart because they were in
Speaker 5: a dangerous world, it changes them.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: So I don't know, I U, I don't know. I
Speaker 5: think you kind of just don't worry about connecting it
Speaker 5: too much with what we've done in the last few
Speaker 5: seasons and New Blood and just kind of it's just
Speaker 5: Dexter in his classic setting again and it's just another night,
Speaker 5: you know, He's.
Speaker 1: Just out in the streets to nice and night again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so my pitch, I agree with Dylan for the most part.
Speaker 1: The only thing I would have is he escapes. Everyone
Speaker 1: knows he escapes. The b plod is Batista.
Speaker 2: Trying to find him because he feels like slighted that
Speaker 2: this guy lied to his whole life, did kill the
Speaker 2: woman he loved, LaGuerta, and like lied about that, I think,
Speaker 2: and that you could do for multiple seasons of Batista
Speaker 2: getting closer and closer.
Speaker 5: It actually sounds like filler content right there.
Speaker 2: Though. Man, Okay, maybe not every episode, but I mean,
Speaker 2: like that should be a plot that eventually comes to
Speaker 2: a head, because I think everyone did want that because
Speaker 2: there's not many characters left in the Miami world and
Speaker 2: Batista was his friend, and I think there's like I
Speaker 2: actually would like it if Batista was the guy that arrested.
Speaker 2: I always thought Dexter should be arrested because he should
Speaker 2: be in prison and then get the death penalty. But
Speaker 2: I think that's the only string I want of the
Speaker 2: old one is Yeah, not every episode we're checking with
Speaker 2: Batista in like Wichita and he's like, have you seen
Speaker 2: Dexter Morgan? But like maybe if it's an eight episode series,
Speaker 2: maybe like every three you see he's getting closer and closer.
Speaker 2: And then when they want to end that show like
Speaker 2: a finale of Batista, like like them seeing each other.
Speaker 2: But other than that, you send him somewhere new and
Speaker 2: he's just doing his dexter thing. I think Harrison was
Speaker 2: a mixed character both reaction and writing. They could not
Speaker 2: figure out if they wanted to make him a killer
Speaker 2: or not. I really worry that they're just gonna go Actually,
Speaker 2: I do have these urges dad, and they're just gonna.
Speaker 1: Do what we said.
Speaker 2: We're yeah, if you want to keep alive, you just
Speaker 2: shouldn't have shot him. And I think that's what they're
Speaker 2: gonna do. I think they're gonna walk back. But so
Speaker 2: that's my hope.
Speaker 5: Work on your aim son. You gotta be able my turn.
Speaker 2: But I that to me is the recipe for success
Speaker 2: is new city, new name, and with a few strings
Speaker 2: of past hunting him. Now, maybe Eve his son, his
Speaker 2: son's like maybe his son feels like, yeah, like this
Speaker 2: my dad is a terrible person. Shouldn't be doing these
Speaker 2: things and he helps Batista like.
Speaker 9: He's up with what's his buddy with the drawings Ethan.
Speaker 2: Ethan that he sent to prison. Yeah, look at my drawings.
Speaker 5: Yeah, off the top of your head, what do you
Speaker 5: guys think for like time jump? Is there time jump?
Speaker 5: If so, like roughly how long is the time jump?
Speaker 2: No, he said right after he said it picks up
Speaker 2: right after, So I think it's I think it's literally
Speaker 2: him with the gunshot wound.
Speaker 5: You don't think it would just be like, Okay, they
Speaker 5: answer how he survived, and then like two years later
Speaker 5: and then we're back into it, yeah, and then like
Speaker 5: flashbacks of how he got to where he's now. Maybe
Speaker 5: I think there if anything thing listen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or even the time the show, to be honest,
Speaker 2: like if it's been three years, I could actually see
Speaker 2: them being like first half the episode. No, I think
Speaker 2: for sixty years, it'll be something changed. He'll get meddi
Speaker 2: backed out, he'll be arrested, he'll be in a hospital.
Speaker 2: But classic decks are more like fashion. He'll like break
Speaker 2: his wrist to get out of the cuffs and they'll go,
Speaker 2: you know what this happened? They'll go check the fucking
Speaker 2: hostile bit and they'll just be empty, like where do
Speaker 2: you go in? They be pay to Black three years later,
Speaker 2: I'm like, Hi, I'm Joseph's.
Speaker 5: The sheets will be a bunch of pillows with a
Speaker 5: wig like over top of the head.
Speaker 1: The young Dexter. I keep this around where I go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw you trying to chime in there. What
Speaker 2: do you what are you thinking for the storyline this show.
Speaker 8: From what I've seen in Dexter, Batista was a good cop.
Speaker 8: He at least he tried to be at times, but
Speaker 8: he was not all there to track down most of
Speaker 8: these killers.
Speaker 1: I feel like, but he's he's the captain now when
Speaker 1: my when they checked the show, so maybe.
Speaker 8: He's everyone else died. He was not first round pick.
Speaker 8: Maybe he's come hopefully. I just feel like he leaned
Speaker 8: on a lot of other people to help him solve
Speaker 8: these cases. But again he's he's a compassionate guy and
Speaker 8: he does mean well. But to me in that show,
Speaker 8: he was not captain material. So it'll be interesting to
Speaker 8: see and I necessary.
Speaker 3: Never had to crack the code Masuka can take.
Speaker 1: I don't almost super hunting down Dexter.
Speaker 3: Morgan.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I love it, but I think I think you
Speaker 8: can see a time jump of five years. That seems
Speaker 8: to be the start go to in in Hollywood these days,
Speaker 8: the five year time. But I think that you will
Speaker 8: get something like you already said, Travis. Then them talk
Speaker 8: about they're gonna be right after and like you mentioned Dylan,
Speaker 8: just something that's kind of showcasing at the start, and
Speaker 8: I guess, like all you guys have said like a
Speaker 8: half and half episode and then he'll be like, yeah,
Speaker 8: my name is Billy, Bob and Seattle or someth But
Speaker 8: like that, I love.
Speaker 3: A familiar, a familiar.
Speaker 8: Limelight would be kind of cool to see him in
Speaker 8: and I wouldn't mind him being back in like the
Speaker 8: big city. He can't go back to Miami though, no, no,
Speaker 8: no no, I mean like a familiar like put him
Speaker 8: put him in like a Vancouver, put him in like
Speaker 8: a Toronto.
Speaker 5: I would love that comes to Kelowna.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would like that for us. When you say
Speaker 2: big city, I think it's more like a New York
Speaker 2: or Chicago.
Speaker 3: Overseas and I'm like, uh, where where did John wit
Speaker 3: go o? Socca?
Speaker 5: The Osaka district? Like put him in there.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind overseas.
Speaker 2: What I would like is for my threat of Batista,
Speaker 2: even shade of him hunting him down, if each season
Speaker 2: was a new location that every time he settles and
Speaker 2: he's like, fuck Batista found me, Like okay, now I'm going,
Speaker 2: yeah to a socca.
Speaker 5: Now I'm going to the rivor every season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd love it if it's three seasons, like yeah,
Speaker 1: go to dinner places.
Speaker 8: The show how bad Batista is because he's waiting each
Speaker 8: season he just can't.
Speaker 2: Get that close.
Speaker 1: But he'll catch them eventually.
Speaker 5: You know, he'll catch the least likely guy to be
Speaker 5: given a passport. I guess he's the most likely guy
Speaker 5: to like forge one really effectively, though he does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think in New Blood they showed he
Speaker 2: had he had multiples, like like in a stash. He's
Speaker 2: always ready to fucking blitz anytime. So I think he
Speaker 2: has like eight personalities.
Speaker 5: Ready to go, so one of them being Billy Bob Thornton,
Speaker 5: Billy web Thornton.
Speaker 3: Yet here you go put them in Vegas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can.
Speaker 2: See that since the Sin City marketing is all over
Speaker 2: that stuff about gambling and taking a chance and a
Speaker 2: risk and everything.
Speaker 5: But also Batista is probably there on the weekly so.
Speaker 2: Getting hammered, apparently the Taylor so Kirk, when any of
Speaker 2: these pitches sound good to you, you're ranking Anthony just
Speaker 2: mentioned any the stories anything.
Speaker 9: I liked what you pitched, Travis, I ever since new
Speaker 9: Blood when you pitched like the trial sequence, I definitely am.
Speaker 3: I am a fan of that idea, especially just and.
Speaker 2: Them telling you.
Speaker 1: Work that out. We're doing We're we finally got multiple seasons.
Speaker 2: Now use ending like no you guys, Netflix and gotta
Speaker 2: get together Dexter versus Show.
Speaker 1: Let's fucking go. Yeah, super Mike, you the vision.
Speaker 9: I want, like, yeah, I want like all of because
Speaker 9: it's just it's such an easy way for him to
Speaker 9: get out if he does just die in the snow.
Speaker 9: So I am, I guess in that sense happy that
Speaker 9: that wouldn't be the ending of that character. I do
Speaker 9: want there to be some I feel like retribution isn't
Speaker 9: the right word, just just some consequence for everything that
Speaker 9: he's done and in his days, and the fact that
Speaker 9: we do it still have Batista out there, Unlike Taylor.
Speaker 3: You know, I think he's I think he's not right Captain.
Speaker 3: I think he's doing what he can.
Speaker 1: But Miami, so yeah, I I.
Speaker 9: Definitely would want that to at least be the end result.
Speaker 9: And I still have made a good point that like
Speaker 9: if that is just the whole show, like I feel
Speaker 9: like I feel like I want to explore other avenues.
Speaker 3: That's not just that.
Speaker 9: But I think it was you, Travis the Pitt just
Speaker 9: like I don't know, every three episodes or something, check
Speaker 9: in on on Batista. You know, that's not the exact formula.
Speaker 9: But some some like some feel that you know, someone's
Speaker 9: getting close on his trail, like he is being hunted.
Speaker 9: It's not like he is just everything that he's done
Speaker 9: in the past. He's just in the clear on because
Speaker 9: I feel like if we're in that stage, like it
Speaker 9: would just feel like he got off very, very easily,
Speaker 9: even though I guess he's faked.
Speaker 2: His death, like this would be two times now times
Speaker 2: the other time if no one forgets talk about a
Speaker 2: survival rate. There was a hurricane storm in Miami. He
Speaker 2: drove his boat into the ocean, crashed the boat, and
Speaker 2: then swam back from mill ocean to shore with his
Speaker 2: like whole personalities and made it so he has survived
Speaker 2: a hurricane storm in Miami, and he survived a gunshot
Speaker 2: to the heart.
Speaker 1: M hm, this guy's about Batman now.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know exactly what I would throwing
Speaker 3: there in the mix.
Speaker 9: I think it is fun to bring certain individuals back,
Speaker 9: but I'm also completely okay if we just move forward,
Speaker 9: like if if we're stuck in the past, we never
Speaker 9: would have got.
Speaker 3: Venison Boy was named Kurt.
Speaker 5: Oh, Kurt.
Speaker 9: Yeah, my gosh, what's the actor's name. I can't even
Speaker 9: think of it right now.
Speaker 2: Uh, Clancy Jones, Clancy Brown, Clancy Brown, Clancy Jones, somebody.
Speaker 3: Else against Clancy Jones.
Speaker 1: Why not let's be Dexter's new person Jones.
Speaker 9: So yeah, no, I'm not exactly sure what I would go,
Speaker 9: but I would like the change of scenery, you know,
Speaker 9: come to Colonna.
Speaker 3: Why not let's do it?
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, all right, And finally some DC stuff. Let's see,
Speaker 2: I'll lead with you because did you watch the new
Speaker 2: Penguin trailer? If not, that's it I did, okay, Man
Speaker 2: also lead with you. You can just talk about them
Speaker 2: in total because you're the biggest guy I know for
Speaker 2: creature Commando's are Yeah, that's excited.
Speaker 1: And also did you see the new DC Studios logan?
Speaker 1: If so, what do you think about that.
Speaker 9: That's the studios what's right logo that's there all the
Speaker 9: new DC logo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one from the seventies, but they kind of.
Speaker 9: Refer I was gonna say, it felt felt retro with
Speaker 9: like a clean coat of pain on it.
Speaker 3: It's called the bullet logo, by the way, the bullet logo.
Speaker 1: No, I I like it.
Speaker 9: It's it's it's very different than like the ones of
Speaker 9: the of the recent years, where it feels like going
Speaker 9: away from that car cartoony logo. I don't know if
Speaker 9: that's a negative spin on it. It's kind of sounded
Speaker 9: negative when I said it.
Speaker 2: But uh, and this is gonna be the logo for
Speaker 2: everything nowadays. Yeah, like they're doing like how they used
Speaker 2: to have like a film and comics logos for a
Speaker 2: comics animation movie.
Speaker 1: They're trying to do the whole where DC Studios like it.
Speaker 9: It's it's it's very simple and eye popping, and it's
Speaker 9: just like now when I see that logo, it's like, hey, yeah,
Speaker 9: this is this is coming from I almost said Snyder,
Speaker 9: my god, James Gunn and uh and crew. Now I apologize,
Speaker 9: I always forget the other lad who is it Jeter Peterson.
Speaker 2: You always do what I remember. It's always the same thing.
Speaker 2: When you forget, I'm like, oh, I apologize to the guy.
Speaker 2: You're like, I'm gonna get credit.
Speaker 3: It was named by now the amount at times that
Speaker 3: we've talked about him. But anyways, No, I like the
Speaker 3: new logo.
Speaker 9: I'll actually start with Creature Commandos because this has been
Speaker 9: for me at least like long time comming for for
Speaker 9: a trailer, at least to actually see some moving characters
Speaker 9: on screen. And I really liked it. I really like
Speaker 9: the vibe. It looks like it's gonna be a really
Speaker 9: fun time. I really really love this animation style. It's
Speaker 9: it's nothing like brand new. I feel like Invincible is
Speaker 9: pretty similar to that, even like yeah, like some other shows,
Speaker 9: it's it feels like it's almost Saturday Morning cartoons, but
Speaker 9: like after the nineties cartoons, like like I don't know,
Speaker 9: mid two thousands something like that, but just a little
Speaker 9: bit more polished and cleaned up.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I really like the look of it.
Speaker 9: I like our care I like the teaser trailer overall,
Speaker 9: just even doing like the little intros for our characters,
Speaker 9: so at least, you know, like when we first got
Speaker 9: the announcements. I remember seeing the names, but at least going, uh,
Speaker 9: what's so funny?
Speaker 1: What are you that fucking dropped like.
Speaker 3: Rogers Internet?
Speaker 1: We understood, we understood.
Speaker 3: But yeah, okay, yeah, so you know, I I really
Speaker 3: like the trailer.
Speaker 9: I thought it looked fantastic and then for pivoting over
Speaker 9: to yeah, the Penguin Man. Every time I see a
Speaker 9: trailer for the show, I just get more and more hyped,
Speaker 9: And this is definitely the best trailer by far. And
Speaker 9: I'm so fucking hype for the show. It is it
Speaker 9: cannot come soon enough.
Speaker 1: September.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I I'm I'm so hype for this just everything
Speaker 9: about it. It's it like makes me want to rewatch
Speaker 9: Batman just because it like really has that feel of
Speaker 9: that universe.
Speaker 3: But just I don't know.
Speaker 9: I I it's funny because I feel like it's one
Speaker 9: thing to have like a really good trailer and be like,
Speaker 9: is this does this show just look really good or
Speaker 9: is it really well made trailer? I feel like every
Speaker 9: trailer for me has just been that quality. So it's like, Okay,
Speaker 9: I think this is a good indicator that the show
Speaker 9: is going to be pretty good, because it's not all
Speaker 9: the same scenes to keep her using hopefully it's not
Speaker 9: just the best ones that they're using. But remind me,
Speaker 9: what's the what's the female of Falcones daughter's actresses name?
Speaker 9: I think I've only seen herrings and I met you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Christina something. But yeah, Sophia Falcone, I know,
Speaker 2: I know the character's name.
Speaker 9: Yeah, she looks badass and this is a very different
Speaker 9: role that I've I've seen her in in the past,
Speaker 9: so I'm really excited to see her and to have
Speaker 9: a character like like cobble Pot, like almost on the
Speaker 9: back heel of just like her. You know, I saw
Speaker 9: her messing up some people in Arkham, but to have
Speaker 9: the I guess like the more mafia type clean style
Speaker 9: to her when she's all like dressed nice when she's
Speaker 9: interacting with them there. I'm just really excited to get
Speaker 9: some of those interactions. And yeah, this the show looks
Speaker 9: so good and.
Speaker 1: They're bringing in if people didn't notice, I think they
Speaker 1: said Trift.
Speaker 2: Now you can see it where they call her the
Speaker 2: hangman because in the comic books there was like zero
Speaker 2: Killer going around hanging people and it was revealed to
Speaker 2: be Carmine found CON's daughter so obviously this was picking
Speaker 2: up probably after she's.
Speaker 1: Done similar crimes, but yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: That's kind of one of her traits in the comic
Speaker 2: books is she's also on the kind of serial killer realm, so.
Speaker 9: Still family but yeah, yeah, and then drop gang Wars
Speaker 9: in there, like this is gonna be There's gonna be
Speaker 9: a lot of violence on the show.
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to it. Dropped Dexter Morgan and that's
Speaker 3: Scott's pros.
Speaker 1: Going as GoF them.
Speaker 5: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they did say that. Matt Reeves said some of
Speaker 1: the elements of the this was gonna be in the movie.
Speaker 2: But they they wanted to do a show, like they
Speaker 2: were given the opportunities to say, let's do the whole show.
Speaker 9: It'll be a little amuz boosh, you know, leading up
Speaker 9: to Batman too.
Speaker 2: They did. It's not like a no dub, but they
Speaker 2: did confirmed Colin Pharaoh's coming back for Batman and they
Speaker 2: said they're filming next year, early the next year.
Speaker 1: No one knows because I guess.
Speaker 2: People have misquote him a bunch, but it's the plan
Speaker 2: still for twenty twenty six. But till what about because
Speaker 2: I know Penguin has been like you have been like
Speaker 2: over the hypes, I do this or anything, and then
Speaker 2: Creature Commandos is like, you know, Superman is the first
Speaker 2: film is technically the first thing coming out of James
Speaker 2: Guns like new Connected Universe?
Speaker 1: Did this gets you any excitement? Or it's like I
Speaker 1: can skip this one.
Speaker 5: I'll be skipping both of these. Yeah, I'll be short
Speaker 5: and sweet here. These shows are not really for me,
Speaker 5: not really my vibe. I'm not that big of a
Speaker 5: DC fan generally, so these kind of very ancillary characters
Speaker 5: don't really get me in the door. And then the
Speaker 5: vibes of the shows don't really do it for me either.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I'll be skipping these. So I won't even
Speaker 5: take more time than that. That's all.
Speaker 2: Do you like the logo?
Speaker 5: It looks like I've seen it before, Like it doesn't
Speaker 5: look like a new logo to me. It's fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's probably seen in some retro stuff and everything.
Speaker 9: At that Kirk Christina Miliotti, there you go, thank you,
Speaker 9: pretty last name, Miliotti.
Speaker 3: There you go, got some pizazz on it here?
Speaker 7: Where are you?
Speaker 5: I mean?
Speaker 8: I wasn't sure where I was on the Penguin Show
Speaker 8: when I saw that first The first trailer, but seeing
Speaker 8: this one, it definitely piqued my interest some more, really
Speaker 8: got me, really got me excited. I like the gang
Speaker 8: or the crime kind of thing. I like how you're
Speaker 8: kind of rooting for this underdog. I'm not gonna say
Speaker 8: anti hero, but he's committing murder and doing some really
Speaker 8: nasty things, but you are rooting for him to kind
Speaker 8: of get to that main crime boss status. And the
Speaker 8: only reason I'm really feeling that in this sense too,
Speaker 8: is because I want to see him square off against
Speaker 8: Batman with his whole arsenal, because he was really cool
Speaker 8: in The Batman when he was like just a goon
Speaker 8: at that sense for the crime family, but seeing him
Speaker 8: kind of leading the charge and overcoming someone that's like
Speaker 8: the hangman. Carmine Falcone's daughter. Correct, Okay, so she scared
Speaker 8: the shit out of me, but she's seems like a
Speaker 8: pretty cool character, and I think that it's going to
Speaker 8: be really interesting to see how that on folds, because
Speaker 8: he seemed pretty terrified of her too, and he was
Speaker 8: He does such a good job as Penguin, it's freaking awesome.
Speaker 8: So I'm actually really really looking forward to it. Creature Commandos,
Speaker 8: I I think the Fosphorus Man. He seemed pretty cool.
Speaker 8: Remind me like a ghost rider. But uh yeah, I
Speaker 8: don't know how I'm gonna feel on this show. I
Speaker 8: feel like I'm gonna need to watch an episode or
Speaker 8: two to know where I'm kind of standing on it.
Speaker 8: I still don't know where I'm at though, what my
Speaker 8: temperature is after watching the trailer, but.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm interested. As for the logo, I'm with you, Dylan.
Speaker 8: I've seen this before, so, I mean, you know, they're
Speaker 8: honoring and paying homage to their their roots. I guess
Speaker 8: that's good for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I kind of like the modern day like circle with
Speaker 3: the D and the C in there. Yeah, it felt
Speaker 3: it felt modern.
Speaker 5: Business logo is less boring to you this new one?
Speaker 9: This one, oh yeah, definitely talking who's the question?
Speaker 3: The old one reminds me of movies.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well, but it's just like to me, it's
Speaker 2: just like, let's put the just the letters DC and
Speaker 2: then just one circle logo. I like the color and
Speaker 2: it was like some weird it's just like a tear
Speaker 2: bring up the logo they had for the Deep like
Speaker 2: the sneinder ones.
Speaker 1: It's just like a grayish blue like I like like
Speaker 1: Marvel that it's a bright blue. It's a you see
Speaker 1: it on there. It's not like the grungey like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's like dark and not.
Speaker 2: And that was a Snyer's pick too, that was like
Speaker 2: what they chose. But I think bright baby blue, not
Speaker 2: baby but I guess what would that type of blue be.
Speaker 2: It's almost close to the circling shirt. Yeah, Like I
Speaker 2: just like that.
Speaker 1: Oh look at that, the blues, the blue sticks out.
Speaker 2: I like the stars around it. Yeah, no, man, that
Speaker 2: like look at that, Like, I don't that to me?
Speaker 2: If I definitely had to pick between just the DC
Speaker 2: and the circle and.
Speaker 1: That, I like the stars.
Speaker 2: I like the bolt one, so that's always been my favorite,
Speaker 2: and I was bummed when they changed it when I
Speaker 2: was like in the comic boal gage.
Speaker 1: So I got side to both those logo really looking,
Speaker 1: I do a big age like that one. Look at that,
Speaker 1: that's good. No, like that the one left that's DC,
Speaker 1: the one on the.
Speaker 5: Rule gradient like big deal coming.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good thing. That's what we don't need
Speaker 1: to logo.
Speaker 3: Look at a logo, get.
Speaker 2: That out of here, and that fucking sucks and those
Speaker 2: stars on it. Love the logo. It was my fair
Speaker 2: as a kid, So I'm happy. I think it's good
Speaker 2: fixing to stalls. Yet I'm happy that Gunn was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: the second we got this.
Speaker 1: We knew we're gonna change that. So I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: he's yeah, I'm trusting the vision.
Speaker 2: I'm trusting all this stuff's gonna go down Penguin if
Speaker 2: that was best trailer yet, I was happy because that
Speaker 2: young character.
Speaker 1: I was worried about.
Speaker 2: This one. I was less worried about because he was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I want to be a piece of shit criminal too,
Speaker 2: So I was like, oh, thank god.
Speaker 1: I was worried. I was gonna be like, I don't
Speaker 1: know if I could do this. All that's like some
Speaker 1: fucking friend or a girlfriend's this.
Speaker 2: Kids Like, I'm glad that this is like an upstart
Speaker 2: and maybe he will have the realization of oh I
Speaker 2: don't want to do this because look at what happens right,
Speaker 2: or he'll die, or.
Speaker 1: Maybe ping won't kill him for being a rat. Maybe
Speaker 1: he's a police rat. So that I liked more. I
Speaker 1: thought it was really well done trailer. Don't need any more.
Speaker 1: I'm very excited for it.
Speaker 2: September we got Agatha that and Lord of the Rings
Speaker 2: all like three and weeks.
Speaker 1: We got that coming up soon, and.
Speaker 2: That's definitely the one I'm the most excited for. Even
Speaker 2: Rings has like some good potential. Agatha's like nine on
Speaker 2: the fucking radar compare those two. But we'll we'll talk
Speaker 2: about it. And then Creature, I'm like Taylor Creature Commandos.
Speaker 2: I need to see it in full motion. As far
Speaker 2: as an episode wise, it reminded me a lot of
Speaker 2: Gun Suicide Squad, like almost identical, and I liked that movie,
Speaker 2: but I've not gone back to it. I watched it,
Speaker 2: I think twice, because it was on Crave right away
Speaker 2: with COVID right so I think I watched it for
Speaker 2: the ROO because I did that solely, and then like
Speaker 2: maybe a little bit after see what I thought about it,
Speaker 2: maybe like a couple of weeks or a month later,
Speaker 2: But then after I haven't felt a need to go back.
Speaker 2: And NOI is it a bad movie. I think it's
Speaker 2: still like a good, solid seven to eight out of
Speaker 2: ten like that. That's a James Gunn doesn't make bad stuff.
Speaker 2: So I just didn't lean to that. And I've always
Speaker 2: said this before too. I kind of like when James
Speaker 2: Gun's in the PG thirteen realm. I think when he
Speaker 2: gets rated R, he's kind of unleashed, and sometimes you
Speaker 2: don't want to go full gun, you know. And that's
Speaker 2: why I think with Guardians.
Speaker 5: We all saw his Twitter when he was fully unleased.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, talking about Yeah, that's where I think with Superman,
Speaker 2: I think there's like a good realm he's in, and
Speaker 2: Guardian is a good realm. So we'll see and man like,
Speaker 2: I like, I don't dislike it, but it didn't also
Speaker 2: blow me away, So yeah, I'm interested. Uh, depending when
Speaker 2: I would be reviewing it, as long as I'm.
Speaker 1: Here for it.
Speaker 2: Two in two weeks, Tras told you, I will tell
Speaker 2: you where I'm gonna be going somewhere in the end
Speaker 2: this year and New Year.
Speaker 5: But following Dexter around the world.
Speaker 1: I'm going to Wichita with them. I'm gonna go.
Speaker 2: I'm partnering with Batista. That's what I'm so mad about, Taylor.
Speaker 2: I'm partnering with Batista, and I'm gonna get Dexter.
Speaker 1: Morgan, I'm getting Harrison with you. With the three of
Speaker 1: you guys, Harrison might get lost. So you know, I
Speaker 1: meant to telling to keep the car on. That's about it,
Speaker 1: but yes, that is it.
Speaker 2: There's a few other comic cup things, but we're gonna
Speaker 2: cover those this Wednesday newscast. Uh.
Speaker 1: I guess no one would have probably.
Speaker 2: Uh drafted Downey again, you know, but it would have
Speaker 2: been funny if you did, because he would have got
Speaker 2: to a new but.
Speaker 3: I never would have thought he'd be a different character.
Speaker 2: No, So, but that's what's gonna happen for everybody the
Speaker 2: uh this Wednesday, we're gonna record some little news but
Speaker 2: then also Superhero Draft. That's where he draft a bunch
Speaker 2: of actors and if they get cast in Marvel DC,
Speaker 2: we get some points. So got Doomsday and Secret Wars.
Speaker 2: That gives us some new uh, some new fresh meat
Speaker 2: to look at who to go wear? Now, really, I
Speaker 2: can't even see anybody recasting somebody and being like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's a dumb thing because you have to fucking Downy
Speaker 2: back is Victor von Doom. So that's like the peak
Speaker 2: of like, well, I guess just anything gonna happen, So
Speaker 2: we will do that. Thank you to everyone that watched.
Speaker 2: Thank you to Brent and Christopher. Join us for the
Speaker 2: Marvel portion and watch along. Thank you you guys for
Speaker 2: you don't usually we cast on a weekend, but this
Speaker 2: was tons of fun. I'm glad we did this live
Speaker 2: because that was a big I was worried because we sat,
Speaker 2: me and done, sat for the forty five minutes when
Speaker 2: just a few little updates like oh man, this is
Speaker 2: gonna this is gonna suck. So Lisa gave us one
Speaker 2: big juicy you know, steak for the thumbnail moment.
Speaker 1: Exactly to Tarry Bear. Get that thumbn note ready, Actually
Speaker 1: you need to. I made one already. You're good.
Speaker 2: You're good.
Speaker 1: Actually, but I'll throw.
Speaker 2: Downy on there so you're good. So plays, gentlemen, thank
Speaker 2: you very much for tuning in. Go check our Deadpool
Speaker 2: Wolveren review for us and more of Alliance.
Speaker 1: Have a great weekend and it will not be boring.
Speaker 5: Bye bye