WEBVTT 1 00:00:50.159 --> 00:00:53.960 Welcome back to Midnight Viewing, the Horror anthology podcast, where 2 00:00:54.039 --> 00:00:56.359 this season we're taking a look at George A. Romero's 3 00:00:56.439 --> 00:00:59.960 nineteen eighties series Tales from the Dark Side. Sharing the 4 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:03.000 Midnight view with me are the Projection Booths, Mike White. 5 00:01:03.320 --> 00:01:05.640 I Weigh a Million Pounds. 6 00:01:05.799 --> 00:01:10.879 And the culture cast Chris Statue, I loath, ZOODI fetishes. 7 00:01:11.439 --> 00:01:12.120 We'll get there. 8 00:01:12.760 --> 00:01:14.760 Tonight we are taking a look at the final two 9 00:01:14.840 --> 00:01:17.719 episodes of season four, the final two episodes of Tawnsmen 10 00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:21.640 The Dark Side. Those are Barter and Basher Malone. Barter 11 00:01:21.879 --> 00:01:25.120 Season four, episode nineteen, originally aired on July the seventeenth, 12 00:01:25.239 --> 00:01:29.359 nineteen eighty eight, Written by Julie Selbo, directed by Christopher T. Welch, 13 00:01:29.640 --> 00:01:34.040 starring Jack Carter, Jill Duress, and Michael Santiago. This is 14 00:01:34.079 --> 00:01:37.040 somehow a mashup of the previous two episodes, Going Native 15 00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:40.200 and Hush. It's a real world I Love Lucy that 16 00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:43.159 is visited by a door to door salesman who loves Monia. 17 00:01:43.719 --> 00:01:45.200 What do you think of this one, Mike. 18 00:01:46.439 --> 00:01:49.560 I actually had a really good time with this one. Obviously, 19 00:01:49.840 --> 00:01:53.719 fan of I Love Lucy, also fan of Todd Haynes's 20 00:01:54.280 --> 00:01:57.840 dot get spanked. I could have easily gone the other 21 00:01:57.879 --> 00:01:58.640 way and been. 22 00:01:58.560 --> 00:01:59.599 Like boy Jack Carter. 23 00:01:59.680 --> 00:02:03.239 He was annoying, but I had a good time with 24 00:02:03.400 --> 00:02:06.680 his weirdo English that he was doing, where I could 25 00:02:06.959 --> 00:02:09.400 really understand. It was almost like a pig Latin that 26 00:02:09.479 --> 00:02:11.240 he was speaking with the way that he was talking 27 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:15.120 about good, good and all this kind of stuff. Yeah, 28 00:02:15.240 --> 00:02:17.680 I kind of liked it. I liked the parody of 29 00:02:18.080 --> 00:02:21.759 I Love Lucy and I Yeah, of course, the kid 30 00:02:21.840 --> 00:02:24.439 drumming was pretty annoying, but I really empathized with the 31 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:29.240 Lucy character on here. And yeah, I think that the 32 00:02:29.439 --> 00:02:33.159 end was a little weak, but otherwise I was pleasantly 33 00:02:33.159 --> 00:02:34.039 surprised with this one. 34 00:02:34.039 --> 00:02:36.199 How about you, Chris, I thought it was interesting to 35 00:02:36.199 --> 00:02:39.439 have a I Love Lucy parody A left field choice, 36 00:02:39.560 --> 00:02:42.879 I guess. I just I wonder why is my kind 37 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:46.199 of takeaway? It seems like such an oddly specific thing 38 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:50.199 to pick and choose and do this. So in terms 39 00:02:50.240 --> 00:02:53.439 of trying to nail the tone of the show that 40 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:57.599 they're parroting, I think they nailed that. It is just 41 00:02:57.680 --> 00:03:01.120 an alien shows up on I Love Lucy. Okay, if 42 00:03:01.560 --> 00:03:03.719 all right? I guess I don't need any more explanation 43 00:03:03.800 --> 00:03:07.639 than that, and none is given, so it's interesting, I 44 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:10.599 will say that much. What about you, Father Malone. 45 00:03:10.879 --> 00:03:13.680 I didn't like it overall because I don't like their 46 00:03:13.719 --> 00:03:16.840 comedy episodes when they're not in the hands of comedians, 47 00:03:17.240 --> 00:03:19.439 and for some reason they've decided they're going to close 48 00:03:19.439 --> 00:03:22.319 out their entire series with a pair of comedy episodes. 49 00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:28.759 I did notice though, that this dodge, this episode, dudge ah, 50 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:32.000 this episode does manage to accomplish in about twenty two 51 00:03:32.080 --> 00:03:36.199 minutes what the entire mini series of Storm of the 52 00:03:36.280 --> 00:03:40.039 Century by Stephen King was positing because it's the exact 53 00:03:40.120 --> 00:03:43.520 same story, right, Like, this stranger shows up, acts weird, 54 00:03:43.840 --> 00:03:46.960 then demands their child and they have to give him 55 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:48.800 to him, and then off he goes. It's like the 56 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:51.879 same plot. The ending is when I actually liked about it. 57 00:03:51.919 --> 00:03:53.919 I liked that he took that kid and fucked off. 58 00:03:53.960 --> 00:03:56.400 I just wish they had been happier at the end, 59 00:03:56.520 --> 00:03:59.199 because they seem to rep it's a really weird tonal 60 00:03:59.240 --> 00:04:01.199 shift at the end. You're not supposed to know, or 61 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:03.639 at least I didn't know how to feel, because it 62 00:04:05.360 --> 00:04:08.639 like they're so sick of the kid, but they're I 63 00:04:08.680 --> 00:04:12.280 don't know, I don't know what their intention was here 64 00:04:12.319 --> 00:04:14.919 at the end, but it seemed plenty tales from the 65 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:18.600 dark side, and ordinarily they'll lean into the bitterness of it, 66 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:20.639 and here they was leaning into the grief of it, 67 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:21.920 which was an odd choice. 68 00:04:22.560 --> 00:04:24.360 I think I agree with you as well, And it 69 00:04:24.480 --> 00:04:26.720 just goes back to this whole idea of comedy I 70 00:04:26.759 --> 00:04:30.759 think is much harder to do than most things in writing, 71 00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:34.759 in terms of screenwriting, especially because again, comedy is so 72 00:04:34.920 --> 00:04:39.199 subjective from person to person, and if you make somebody laugh, congratulations. 73 00:04:39.240 --> 00:04:42.160 It is not easy. And the comedy in this is 74 00:04:42.199 --> 00:04:46.319 again just very specific but broad at the same time. 75 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:49.519 And I don't I don't know if I've ever laughed 76 00:04:49.560 --> 00:04:52.040 at any of these comedy episodes that this show has done, 77 00:04:52.040 --> 00:04:54.399 because I'm just like, this is not a comedy style 78 00:04:54.480 --> 00:04:57.120 that really resonates with me, and I don't know who 79 00:04:57.160 --> 00:05:00.399 it's supposed to resonate with, because it's just say, it's 80 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:04.839 broadly unfunny. It just seems misdirected in where it's trying 81 00:05:04.879 --> 00:05:07.519 to be funny, if that makes sense, Like it it's 82 00:05:07.600 --> 00:05:10.639 mining the wrong gags, is what is what it feels like. 83 00:05:11.160 --> 00:05:15.480 Yeah, it's doing this parody of I Love Lucy, and 84 00:05:15.879 --> 00:05:18.439 that is a sitcom, so they are hitting all of 85 00:05:18.480 --> 00:05:22.680 those same beats, and I don't understand the point of that. 86 00:05:22.959 --> 00:05:23.560 Ultimately. 87 00:05:24.279 --> 00:05:28.160 Are they trying to point out how hackneyed that the 88 00:05:28.199 --> 00:05:31.079 show used to be or are they trying to mine 89 00:05:31.079 --> 00:05:33.120 it for the same laughs. I don't know. I was confused. 90 00:05:33.879 --> 00:05:35.800 I like you, but Mike, I want to agree with 91 00:05:35.839 --> 00:05:39.439 you about Jack Carter's performance because I don't not like 92 00:05:39.519 --> 00:05:41.959 the episode based on that. I think he is doing 93 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:44.079 a good job because he isn't like a stand up 94 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:48.360 comedian or anything. This is just a regular working character actor. 95 00:05:48.560 --> 00:05:51.360 So he's really giving us all there and pulling it off. 96 00:05:51.399 --> 00:05:53.639 I think that's really hard to do. Actually, even like 97 00:05:53.839 --> 00:05:56.800 just basic English doubles speak is really hard to do. 98 00:05:57.439 --> 00:05:59.959 Yeah, yeah, I like what he was doing. What normally 99 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:04.120 the steam coming from the ears gag is pretty rote. 100 00:06:04.639 --> 00:06:07.759 But when it happened the first time, I was just like, oh, okay, 101 00:06:07.839 --> 00:06:09.759 that was good. I like that. When it happened the 102 00:06:09.800 --> 00:06:12.319 second time, I was like, okay, please don't do that again. 103 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:15.240 But yeah, I thought that he did a good job. 104 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:18.759 And Yeah, like you were saying, that whole don't Open 105 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:22.399 the Box. It felt very similar to that, except yeah, 106 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:27.160 it was like Ricky Ricardo was. He was more of 107 00:06:27.199 --> 00:06:30.519 the prick than anybody else in this episode, just with 108 00:06:30.600 --> 00:06:34.800 this whole like, oh, little Ricky's got to practice as drums. 109 00:06:34.920 --> 00:06:38.519 And I loved how much stuff she got done without 110 00:06:38.759 --> 00:06:42.399 little Ricky, like when she put him on pause. Yeah, 111 00:06:42.439 --> 00:06:46.160 the whole thing of the machine disappearing. I was kind 112 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:48.000 of like, Okay, yeah, you guys are really fucked. If 113 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:50.639 you keep messing around with this stuff, you're never gonna 114 00:06:50.639 --> 00:06:54.120 get your son back. And I see. I was waiting 115 00:06:54.160 --> 00:06:56.199 for there to be a twist, whether it be a 116 00:06:56.240 --> 00:06:58.879 good twist or a bad twist at the end, where 117 00:06:59.160 --> 00:07:03.879 three years to this guy is actually like a lifetime, 118 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:07.279 or three years to this guy is a minute and 119 00:07:07.319 --> 00:07:10.519 a half, because obviously, if he's from outer space, if 120 00:07:10.560 --> 00:07:13.519 he goes out into space and comes back, three years 121 00:07:13.519 --> 00:07:17.000 for him might have passed in three hundred years here 122 00:07:17.040 --> 00:07:19.560 on Earth. It's been a while since I've seen an interstellar, 123 00:07:19.639 --> 00:07:21.560 but that's what I seem to remember from the old 124 00:07:21.920 --> 00:07:25.360 Einstein concept of time. So I was hoping for something 125 00:07:25.439 --> 00:07:28.199 just a little extra, h like the little kick in 126 00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:31.079 the ribs. Towards the end there either like I said, 127 00:07:31.079 --> 00:07:34.439 a happy twist or just a real fuck you don't 128 00:07:34.480 --> 00:07:37.519 mess with any of this stuff, Like you really shouldn't 129 00:07:37.560 --> 00:07:39.639 be bartering with this gentleman. 130 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:43.199 It is a cautionary too, yeah, as most. 131 00:07:42.959 --> 00:07:44.720 Of them are. Yeah, by the end of it, I 132 00:07:44.759 --> 00:07:47.319 guess I was under the assumption they wouldn't be that 133 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:50.040 disappointed that their son was gone because they were annoyed 134 00:07:50.079 --> 00:07:52.240 by him. But they do seem a little bit more 135 00:07:52.240 --> 00:07:55.240 put out by it than I have assumed they would be. 136 00:07:55.720 --> 00:07:56.879 They're bereft. Man. 137 00:07:57.120 --> 00:07:59.600 She's like playing to Ricky there. 138 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:02.120 I know, And I thought she'd be happy because it's 139 00:08:02.160 --> 00:08:04.480 like when little Ricky's out of the way, she gets 140 00:08:04.519 --> 00:08:07.639 so much done and she's able to like figure out 141 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:10.279 more of these household tints. That was an odd thread 142 00:08:10.360 --> 00:08:14.399 going through there. But this whole what contest and if 143 00:08:14.439 --> 00:08:16.439 we win, we get to be on television. I was like, 144 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:19.680 that is such a Lucy trope, the whole like her 145 00:08:19.839 --> 00:08:23.240 just quest for fame and wants to be on television, 146 00:08:23.279 --> 00:08:24.319 and the worst way. 147 00:08:25.399 --> 00:08:28.360 I think it's a worthy I think I love Lucy 148 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:30.399 is worthy of parody, and particularly this is what like 149 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:33.600 eighty eight. At this point, this is the boomer generation. 150 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:35.879 They grew up on this goddamn show, and they need 151 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:39.519 to take it apart. But I don't think it's I'm 152 00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:41.840 just repeating. This is an echo chamber now. It isn't 153 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:44.360 vicious enough, and it's not or and or not funny 154 00:08:44.440 --> 00:08:47.960 enough or sentimental enough. It's just there. I didn't hate it, 155 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:51.320 but I didn't feel one way or another. I think 156 00:08:51.320 --> 00:08:53.840 the episode wanted me to feel something at the end there. 157 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:57.639 They picked I Love Lucy intentionally and I don't understand why. 158 00:08:58.159 --> 00:08:59.559 It's like, you don't get me to the point of 159 00:08:59.639 --> 00:09:02.720 understand why you chose I Love Lucy, which to your 160 00:09:02.720 --> 00:09:05.039 point is like you should have done something a little 161 00:09:05.039 --> 00:09:07.840 bit more subversive or a little bit more pointed, and 162 00:09:07.879 --> 00:09:10.960 you don't. It's just like the most obvious things to parody. 163 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:14.480 I'm surprised we didn't get Ethel and Fred showing up. 164 00:09:14.519 --> 00:09:17.080 We get mentioned of them with Bethel, which is. 165 00:09:17.480 --> 00:09:25.039 Wow, I love and little Nicky, Little Nicky. 166 00:09:25.360 --> 00:09:28.879 Yeah. 167 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:31.879 I mean they already did a really good just in 168 00:09:31.919 --> 00:09:35.399 a three minute music video like the Ricky video by 169 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:38.960 a weird al is freaking fantastic. And that was the 170 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:41.399 first time where you got to see weird Al without 171 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:44.200 the long curly hair, where he puts on the wig 172 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:45.639 for that Ricky character. 173 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:48.320 And he looks great in that video. 174 00:09:49.120 --> 00:09:51.279 Yeah, that was a long time before this. 175 00:09:51.799 --> 00:09:55.320 Oh yeah, but I don't remember when Dotty gets Spanked 176 00:09:55.360 --> 00:09:58.200 came out. But yeah, I agree with you. This was 177 00:09:58.279 --> 00:10:02.919 the time where I was nineteen ninety three, Yeah, so weird. 178 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:05.919 And what year was this one? This was ninety eight 179 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:08.200 white okay, so eighty eight, so right in the middle 180 00:10:08.240 --> 00:10:11.919 between those two. Yeah, I agree. I was just gonna 181 00:10:11.919 --> 00:10:14.080 say agree with you as far as this is, I 182 00:10:14.080 --> 00:10:17.600 guess a good time to parody Lucy. But it does 183 00:10:17.639 --> 00:10:21.279 feel like a strange marriage of the East. And I 184 00:10:21.320 --> 00:10:23.440 am almost curious to go back to the original short 185 00:10:23.480 --> 00:10:26.600 story to see how much of the Lucy Ricky stuff. 186 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:26.720 Is in there. 187 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:31.039 Probably nothing at all, Probably just a brief mention. Sometimes 188 00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:35.240 she felt like Lucy Ricardo, I know what to do. 189 00:10:36.200 --> 00:10:38.559 And for me, honestly did they were they not just 190 00:10:38.639 --> 00:10:40.519 able to get Ray Walston? Is that what it is? 191 00:10:40.559 --> 00:10:42.320 They were just like Ray Walston, will you come be 192 00:10:42.360 --> 00:10:43.200 in our episode? 193 00:10:43.679 --> 00:10:45.080 That my favorite Martian. 194 00:10:45.159 --> 00:10:47.440 It is It's like I love Lucy meets my favorite Martian, 195 00:10:47.519 --> 00:10:50.639 but they don't. It's almost like they don't belabor the 196 00:10:50.639 --> 00:10:53.639 point enough. That's what it is, like, you should I 197 00:10:53.639 --> 00:10:55.320 don't know. There should have been maybe more of a 198 00:10:55.360 --> 00:10:57.879 framing device or something. I don't know. Its just it 199 00:10:57.919 --> 00:11:00.279 does fall a little flat. But what a weird thing. 200 00:11:00.720 --> 00:11:01.399 I love, Lucy. 201 00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:04.840 It's straddling this weird line of being the sitcom and 202 00:11:04.879 --> 00:11:07.559 being a real world version of the sitcom, and it 203 00:11:07.639 --> 00:11:11.200 can't figure out which one it wants to be, so 204 00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:17.320 it's neither exactly. Yeah, and finally, oh my god, here 205 00:11:17.320 --> 00:11:21.080 we are at the end season four episode twenty My 206 00:11:21.279 --> 00:11:26.399 cousin Basher Malone, written by Peter O'Keefe, directed by Anthony 207 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:29.840 Santa Crocy. This was originally aired on July the twenty fourth, 208 00:11:29.960 --> 00:11:33.240 nineteen eighty eight. Perfect time for a horror anthology series, 209 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:38.480 Middle of Summer, starring Vic Tayback, Marie den Brink Stevens, 210 00:11:38.799 --> 00:11:42.240 and Marlene Cassamento. Are you ready for the match of 211 00:11:42.279 --> 00:11:46.120 a lifetime? This is not it. It's Basher Malone versus Trag, 212 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:47.799 a demon from Hell. Wild you think of this one, Chris, 213 00:11:47.879 --> 00:11:50.240 you're there, you're a wrestling expert. What did you think 214 00:11:50.279 --> 00:11:54.080 of this? Fucking fantastic display of. 215 00:11:56.879 --> 00:11:57.159 Yeah. 216 00:12:00.039 --> 00:12:03.000 Start in the trail off there the Stephen Capello, the 217 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:08.480 California terminator who tagged with the future and I guess 218 00:12:08.519 --> 00:12:11.559 at the time now former governor of Minnesota Jesse Ventura. 219 00:12:11.799 --> 00:12:15.000 Stephen Coppello would go on to paint the Governor's mansion 220 00:12:15.080 --> 00:12:18.960 and paint a portrait of Jesse Ventura for his time 221 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:23.120 in the governor governorship of Minnesota. I am a wrestling fan. Yes, 222 00:12:23.320 --> 00:12:27.080 this is yeah, this is not what what in God's 223 00:12:27.159 --> 00:12:31.360 name is this? This is wrestling question mark? This is 224 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:35.440 something again similarly to the last episode, like high concept, 225 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:40.320 strange all over the place, doesn't necessarily succeed completely, but 226 00:12:41.399 --> 00:12:44.440 it's weird. It's weird enough to have my attention. I 227 00:12:44.480 --> 00:12:47.639 don't think it gets all the way to a twenty 228 00:12:47.679 --> 00:12:51.240 three minute episode without like meandering for a minute because 229 00:12:51.240 --> 00:12:54.000 it is so high concept. But I think it's fine. 230 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:56.600 I will say to your point, if this is the 231 00:12:56.600 --> 00:12:58.799 way you're ending your show, not a good way to 232 00:12:58.879 --> 00:13:01.720 end your show, one might say, one of the worst 233 00:13:01.720 --> 00:13:04.360 ways to Drew show. Not the worst way, because I 234 00:13:04.399 --> 00:13:07.120 think comparative to maybe some of the other final episodes 235 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:09.679 we've seen of things It's not as bad as some 236 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:11.200 of the other ones, but not a great way to 237 00:13:11.320 --> 00:13:15.120 end a show that started out really strong about you, Mike. 238 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:18.080 Yeah, what a weird thing. This is going to be 239 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:21.679 a strange complaint. The music. The music that just keeps 240 00:13:21.720 --> 00:13:24.480 repeating over and over again. 241 00:13:25.039 --> 00:13:27.039 It's not a strange complaint when it's that bad. 242 00:13:27.360 --> 00:13:30.600 And at one point it becomes love theme from Basher. 243 00:13:30.799 --> 00:13:32.840 It's just it's so strange. 244 00:13:32.879 --> 00:13:36.600 I was so happy when I saw Victa back in 245 00:13:36.679 --> 00:13:40.240 this love Victory back. I kept wondering, does he always 246 00:13:40.279 --> 00:13:41.960 have to have a cigar in his mouth? I guess 247 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:44.759 he didn't when he was on Colombo trying to sell 248 00:13:44.879 --> 00:13:50.159 some shifty art. But yeah, this whole all American boy 249 00:13:50.360 --> 00:13:54.200 who brings his mother to the games and eats milk 250 00:13:54.240 --> 00:13:58.159 and cookies and stuff. It's good for a few seconds. 251 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:02.159 But then once they get to a big devil type 252 00:14:02.320 --> 00:14:05.399 match and stuff, and I'm just like, is Victate back 253 00:14:05.440 --> 00:14:08.200 the devil? Or is he just a horrible person? I 254 00:14:08.200 --> 00:14:11.039 think he's just horrible. And then apparently because of how 255 00:14:11.080 --> 00:14:15.120 horrible you are, the guy who he's fighting gains weight. 256 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:18.360 He becomes like bane, so the sins he weighs the 257 00:14:18.399 --> 00:14:20.000 sins weighs the sins. 258 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:24.600 Yeah, and that victory back has a like the trident 259 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:27.279 on his hat and it's what's to say in his shirt? 260 00:14:27.559 --> 00:14:30.600 It actually says like devil's something on his shirt. I'm 261 00:14:30.679 --> 00:14:34.600 just like, oh, okay, yeah, what a weird way what 262 00:14:34.759 --> 00:14:38.960 to end your show? And just a strange episode because 263 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:43.559 at one point it just becomes like what a five 264 00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:46.960 hander of all these people in an empty gym with 265 00:14:47.080 --> 00:14:51.919 that cool laser effect that they're doing that was pretty expensive. 266 00:14:52.759 --> 00:14:54.159 You this one, FM. 267 00:14:54.799 --> 00:14:59.759 PEPSI say, relax, who Yeah, they broke out that laser. 268 00:15:00.279 --> 00:15:02.639 I will say that the one time the use of 269 00:15:02.639 --> 00:15:06.519 the laser machine was really cool was when Brink Stevens 270 00:15:06.559 --> 00:15:09.639 melts down and they have it playing on her as 271 00:15:09.639 --> 00:15:12.200 if it's electricity, as if she's short circuiting. I thought 272 00:15:12.200 --> 00:15:13.879 that was such a great effect, and if they didn't 273 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:15.440 use the laser at all for the rest of it, 274 00:15:15.639 --> 00:15:18.559 then it would have been better. Overall, do we really 275 00:15:18.559 --> 00:15:21.360 need three matches? Does it need to be three falls? 276 00:15:21.399 --> 00:15:22.159 Are you kidding me? 277 00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:25.080 It's an Iron Man match, baby, you don't we go. 278 00:15:25.080 --> 00:15:28.360 To commercial, we come back and we're still fucking fighting. 279 00:15:30.240 --> 00:15:30.639 Yeah. 280 00:15:30.879 --> 00:15:33.200 Had they put both of these into one episode. It 281 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:35.480 probably would have been way better just cut both of 282 00:15:35.519 --> 00:15:39.279 these down by half, but no, we're committed to the 283 00:15:39.360 --> 00:15:40.080 half hour bit. 284 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:45.080 I will say there's a nice circularity to the after 285 00:15:45.120 --> 00:15:47.600 the pilot the first official episode of Tales from the 286 00:15:47.639 --> 00:15:51.840 Dark Side was victay Back not remembering or his child that. 287 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:52.960 Who is this kid? 288 00:15:53.639 --> 00:15:55.360 So it's good that he was in the first and 289 00:15:55.440 --> 00:15:57.759 now he's here back in the last, and that's nice 290 00:15:57.759 --> 00:16:00.440 and it's always good to see him. But is this 291 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:04.720 just some fucking real world version of or some like 292 00:16:04.960 --> 00:16:06.559 it's Hull Covid, right, I mean. 293 00:16:06.519 --> 00:16:08.879 It's Hull Covid, and it's Captain Lou Albano, and it's 294 00:16:09.039 --> 00:16:11.399 and then the guy who's dressed up like Trog is Vader. 295 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:14.320 He's literally wearing Vader's outfit with the like the red 296 00:16:14.360 --> 00:16:15.399 singlet and the mask. 297 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:19.360 And then but in nineteen I don't think Vader was 298 00:16:19.399 --> 00:16:21.679 that big a deal, don't Wasn't he a nineties guy? 299 00:16:22.320 --> 00:16:25.399 Darth Vader was very big since nineteen seventy seven, thank. 300 00:16:25.480 --> 00:16:30.519 Very much, heard of Jesus. Sorry, we're talking about the 301 00:16:30.519 --> 00:16:36.360 wrestler known as a big Van Vader, Sir Darth Vader. Sorry, 302 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:38.879 people are real confused all of us. 303 00:16:39.000 --> 00:16:41.200 He has more than more than one name. I had 304 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:41.679 no idea. 305 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:45.480 Yeah, yeah, Big Van Vader was he was wrestling from 306 00:16:45.679 --> 00:16:50.200 like the mid mid eighties on. But yeah, he was 307 00:16:50.360 --> 00:16:53.000 height of his time was in the nineties in the WWE. 308 00:16:53.120 --> 00:16:56.519 But it is Lou Albano clearly, because the way Vic 309 00:16:56.600 --> 00:16:58.720 Tabac is rested at the beginning of the episode, he's 310 00:16:58.720 --> 00:17:01.759 wearing those like bright colorful shirts, just like Albono did. 311 00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:05.359 And then yes, Stephen Capello, it is just Hulk Hogan clearly, 312 00:17:05.759 --> 00:17:07.519 Like that's very odd. 313 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:11.079 He's basically saying, take your vitamins and say your prayers, 314 00:17:11.200 --> 00:17:13.920 like there's a variation on that, like that, we're supposed 315 00:17:13.960 --> 00:17:16.920 to believe that this is what Hulk Hogan would really be. 316 00:17:17.079 --> 00:17:21.319 Like No, actually, as it turns out, sorry. 317 00:17:21.680 --> 00:17:25.920 Rac the Devil's dick. He didn't fight the Devil shockingly, 318 00:17:26.039 --> 00:17:26.480 I know. 319 00:17:28.359 --> 00:17:30.319 Yeah, you would have been like, oh that guy, Yeah, 320 00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:32.319 it's pretty he's got some good ideas if you really 321 00:17:32.359 --> 00:17:33.279 stop and listen. 322 00:17:33.079 --> 00:17:35.480 To him, I'm gonna throw the match for Satan or 323 00:17:35.640 --> 00:17:37.759 they wouldn't do that, brother, But he's good. 324 00:17:38.359 --> 00:17:44.519 By Oh god, what what an ironic episode to have 325 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:47.160 to watch after the passing of Hulk Hogan too. It 326 00:17:47.240 --> 00:17:50.359 takes on new meaning after the passing of one Terry 327 00:17:50.480 --> 00:17:51.720 Hulk Hogan. Boleya. 328 00:17:51.960 --> 00:17:54.319 Are they still doing that Chris Hemsworth movie? Remember they 329 00:17:54.319 --> 00:17:58.440 were like he was in constant training for Swans and shit, 330 00:17:58.519 --> 00:17:59.039 I'm like. 331 00:17:58.920 --> 00:18:01.160 Oh, twenty six inch fons. 332 00:18:01.240 --> 00:18:03.200 Yeah, you still do an Vince McMahon movie too. You 333 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:06.799 can really have this run the circuit of shithead people. 334 00:18:06.519 --> 00:18:09.599 In the wrestling we all just want a macho man movie. 335 00:18:09.680 --> 00:18:11.000 Let's face that's true. 336 00:18:11.240 --> 00:18:13.559 Yeah, which basically they have. 337 00:18:14.039 --> 00:18:17.200 They have to miss Elizabeth here with Stevens' character. 338 00:18:17.960 --> 00:18:20.400 Yeah, it was nice seeing her. It's always nicee in her, 339 00:18:20.480 --> 00:18:22.640 but yeah, very nice seeing her in this episode. 340 00:18:22.839 --> 00:18:25.200 There was weird kind of fac similes for people in 341 00:18:25.240 --> 00:18:27.319 the real world of wrestling at the time, and if 342 00:18:27.319 --> 00:18:31.279 you're alive at the time, it's very obvious it's inescapable 343 00:18:31.599 --> 00:18:32.160 at the time. 344 00:18:34.559 --> 00:18:37.079 And I just don't know what amounted anything other than 345 00:18:37.519 --> 00:18:40.680 too many matches. And I really hated our lead and 346 00:18:40.759 --> 00:18:42.880 I kind of wanted them to all get stuffed into 347 00:18:42.880 --> 00:18:47.319 that fucking refrigerator of Laserdom. 348 00:18:47.400 --> 00:18:52.279 Yeah. The final thing when tay Back gets sent through 349 00:18:52.279 --> 00:18:56.400 the portal with the wrestler and who because they're touching now, 350 00:18:56.440 --> 00:18:59.880 suddenly he becomes the biggest weight in the world. How 351 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:03.119 just like break apart and go their own ways. I'm like, yeah, 352 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:04.319 that was a really bad. 353 00:19:05.839 --> 00:19:06.559 Maximilian. 354 00:19:08.599 --> 00:19:14.720 Yes, yes, very very black Sorry dark hole. Yep, you're right. 355 00:19:15.079 --> 00:19:17.160 They came out of that black hole. I don't understand 356 00:19:17.160 --> 00:19:19.759 what the problem is with them going back into it. Yeah, 357 00:19:20.720 --> 00:19:23.519 he just walked out of it before. All right, there's 358 00:19:23.519 --> 00:19:24.480 the problem, Like. 359 00:19:24.759 --> 00:19:27.640 Do some walkout music? Yeah, it's just the same theme 360 00:19:27.680 --> 00:19:30.319 as they played through the entire fucking thing. 361 00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:34.519 Who's got a bass guitar? Could you just play that 362 00:19:34.599 --> 00:19:34.960 over there? 363 00:19:35.799 --> 00:19:38.880 Which of these is trogs entrance music? Please play it 364 00:19:38.920 --> 00:19:39.240 for me. 365 00:19:40.759 --> 00:19:43.359 Let's get the music cues from Tales from the Dark 366 00:19:43.400 --> 00:19:44.160 Side season four. 367 00:19:45.279 --> 00:19:47.799 I will hunt them down. I know they exist somewhere. 368 00:19:47.839 --> 00:19:51.000 Donald Wuvenstein will not return my Toels. No, he's been 369 00:19:51.119 --> 00:19:54.680 very nice. He's just very hesitant to talk. It's unusual, 370 00:19:54.880 --> 00:19:56.720 and really I just want to talk to his brother anyway. 371 00:19:56.799 --> 00:19:58.000 So there you go. 372 00:19:59.359 --> 00:20:01.799 All right, till next time the next episode of Midnight 373 00:20:01.880 --> 00:20:04.680 yere we're gonna be looking at It's not a series anymore. 374 00:20:04.720 --> 00:20:06.640 It's We're gonna be looking at the movie Tales from 375 00:20:06.640 --> 00:20:10.039 the Dark Side, the movie from nineteen ninety until then. 376 00:20:10.720 --> 00:20:14.480 Where are you working on? People find it? Chris Statue 377 00:20:14.920 --> 00:20:15.720 looking whoa. 378 00:20:16.279 --> 00:20:17.960 Yeah, you can find all the things that I do 379 00:20:18.039 --> 00:20:21.720 over weirdingwaymedia dot com, including this show and the Culture 380 00:20:21.799 --> 00:20:26.640 Cast and Shabby Detective and col check tapes which is done. 381 00:20:26.680 --> 00:20:28.400 There's a lot of stuff. Everything can be found over 382 00:20:28.400 --> 00:20:32.480 at wordingwaymedia dot com, other than my patreon which has 383 00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:34.880 ranked on Bond which Father Malone you were on at 384 00:20:34.880 --> 00:20:39.400 one point talking about live and let die twice twice. 385 00:20:39.480 --> 00:20:40.799 That was what to say, and then you came back. 386 00:20:40.880 --> 00:20:42.319 I know from what we talked about. 387 00:20:42.240 --> 00:20:45.400 You loly start twice. 388 00:20:45.920 --> 00:20:49.720 Sorry or so they say. And yeah, you can find 389 00:20:49.720 --> 00:20:52.519 that on my patreon, which is patreon dot com slash Culturecast, 390 00:20:52.599 --> 00:20:56.400 or Mike's patreon patreon dot com slash Projection Booth. But 391 00:20:56.440 --> 00:20:58.799 more importantly, given that this is your show patreon dot 392 00:20:58.799 --> 00:21:01.960 com slash Father Malone, as we can go to financially 393 00:21:01.960 --> 00:21:04.480 support you, which you're working pretty damn hard to make 394 00:21:04.519 --> 00:21:06.640 this show. So I would suggest anyone who's listening to this, 395 00:21:06.720 --> 00:21:08.799 if you're not already doing it, go and do that. 396 00:21:08.960 --> 00:21:10.519 So what about you, Mike White? 397 00:21:11.599 --> 00:21:13.680 Pretty much the same thing. I will just say, go 398 00:21:13.759 --> 00:21:16.440 on over to Weadingwaymedia dot com and check out all 399 00:21:16.480 --> 00:21:17.200 the fun stuff. 400 00:21:17.599 --> 00:21:20.680 How about you FM, as Chris said Patreon dot com 401 00:21:20.720 --> 00:21:23.559