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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Merrill I AM six forty more stimulating talk and

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<v Speaker 2>People are saying, no mold, forget about it. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>if you were like me and you grew up poored,

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't have lucky charms. You had something that was

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<v Speaker 2>the equivalent like fortune totems, or you didn't have cheerios.

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<v Speaker 2>You would have oat circles, and you didn't have fruit loops.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd have fruit rings something like that. Right, you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have the actual stuff. We had knockoff cereals, and knockoff

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<v Speaker 2>cereals were fine.

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<v Speaker 3>It was good. In fact, in some cases you got

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<v Speaker 3>so you like them better.

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<v Speaker 2>I always hated the knockoff cheerios, but I thought that

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<v Speaker 2>the knockoff wheaties were fine, Right, I mean, you just

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<v Speaker 2>got so that you got used to it. There are

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<v Speaker 2>other things that you can buy that are store bought,

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<v Speaker 2>that are reasonable duplicates, and stores are getting better at

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<v Speaker 2>this than they were when we were younger, which was

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<v Speaker 2>so so many millennia ago. But Treehouse Foods is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the country's largest manufacturers of private brands, they're the ones.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you see something that is the equate brand

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<v Speaker 2>from Walmart that may have come from Treehouse Foods. If

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<v Speaker 2>you see the Safeway brand that may have come from

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<v Speaker 2>Treehouse Foods. If you see which is like or excuse me,

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<v Speaker 2>you see like the Safeway Albertson's. If you see the

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<v Speaker 2>Kroger brand from like Ralph's, may have come from Treehouse Foods.

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<v Speaker 3>They make a bunch of that stuff. However, we are

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<v Speaker 3>seeing the whole.

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<v Speaker 2>Egg thing going on, with the price of eggs going up,

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<v Speaker 2>which certainly is not in any way, shape or form

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<v Speaker 2>a money grabbed by the egg manufacturers capitalizing on the

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<v Speaker 2>spike and prices due to the bird flu. Coffee prices

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<v Speaker 2>are going up, and of course we may start seeing

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<v Speaker 2>more prices jumping because of the threats of terrace tariffs.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's what you're looking at. Prices on things like cookies, crackers, coffee,

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<v Speaker 2>and other things are not only going up everywhere, but

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<v Speaker 2>they are also going up for the store brought store

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<v Speaker 2>bought brands, the store brand names, right, which we always

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<v Speaker 2>think of as being generic. People have decided I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go and I don't know who does this I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know who it is that is insane enough to do it,

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<v Speaker 2>but some people say I will just go without coffee.

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<v Speaker 3>Friends.

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<v Speaker 2>We are in a bad spot. When inflation gets to

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<v Speaker 2>the point where people are not having their morning drugs,

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<v Speaker 2>that's gonna make things that work a whole lot more difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you know any coffee drinkers. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you're you are a coffee drinker, but if the point

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<v Speaker 2>comes where you have to start rationing coffee, things are

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get ugly fast. They say that people are stressed. Treehouse,

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<v Speaker 2>that's again they make the groceries. Their financial chief says,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't have any strong indicators that consumers are going

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<v Speaker 2>to be less stressed in the near term, and grocery

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<v Speaker 2>retailers are relying on third parties like Treehouse to make

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<v Speaker 2>their store brands.

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<v Speaker 3>Is from the Wall Street Journal.

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<v Speaker 2>Giants like Kroger Albertson's Costco boosting investments in their branded products.

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<v Speaker 2>Private labels are growing faster than name brand goods heading

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<v Speaker 2>into the pandemic, and then consumers stuck at home with

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<v Speaker 2>money to spend, went back to the national brands and

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<v Speaker 2>low cost brands. We've seen now a resurgence for a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of reasons. Because you have higher grocery prices, Retailers

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<v Speaker 2>are expending their store brand offerings. Walmart is introducing a

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<v Speaker 2>premium line of food called Better Goods along their Great

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<v Speaker 2>Value brands. So you've got the Great Value and then

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<v Speaker 2>you've got Better Goods, which is supposed.

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<v Speaker 3>To be the step up.

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<v Speaker 2>But now people are even saying we're just going to

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<v Speaker 2>cut back on even the low cost stuff. To me,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a bad omen. You've got consumer confidence. You

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<v Speaker 2>may have see the report consumer confidence is down. With

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<v Speaker 2>consumer confidence down, whether they have reason to or not.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's based on the news, maybe it's based on

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<v Speaker 2>the worries over the tariffs. Maybe people have lost jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>But at this point it doesn't look like we're in

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<v Speaker 2>a recession. The fear of recession is so great that

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<v Speaker 2>people are beginning to behave as.

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<v Speaker 3>Though we are in a recession.

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<v Speaker 2>We're priming for it, we're getting ready, we're pregaming.

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<v Speaker 3>The next recession is what's happening, and so people.

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<v Speaker 2>Are cutting back on things, even the store brand products,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're also cutting back on this from the Wall

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<v Speaker 2>Street Journal, US convenience store sales falling over four percent

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<v Speaker 3>What are they cutting back on?

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<v Speaker 2>Derrito's When you stop in at the Circle K or

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<v Speaker 2>the shell station, there's no there's no big bag of chips.

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<v Speaker 2>If you've bought a bag of chips at the at

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<v Speaker 2>the gas stations lately, have you seen the price on that,

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<v Speaker 2>it's seven bucks. Seven bucks for a bag of potato

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<v Speaker 2>chips is not even the family size bag. I know,

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<v Speaker 2>I sound like a grumpy old man. I understand, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be grumpy. I don't like it. So people

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<v Speaker 2>are cutting back and what they're buying. That includes Doritos,

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<v Speaker 2>that includes Twinkies. And I think we just saved Twinkies

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<v Speaker 2>from the brink of extinction a decade ago. They were

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<v Speaker 2>all ready to wrap up. But here's the really scary thing.

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<v Speaker 2>While we have some people cutting back on things like

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<v Speaker 2>coffee and other places, which is terrifying, sounds like some

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<v Speaker 2>people are cutting back on cigarettes. Oh my, So now

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<v Speaker 2>you've got people that are not gonna have their cigarettes

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<v Speaker 2>or their coffee in the morning. That is uh, it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get ugly fast, friends, This is gonna be very

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<v Speaker 2>apocalyptic in a hurry.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have high hopes. So what can you.

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<v Speaker 2>Do Could you turn to one of those dollar stores? Nope,

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<v Speaker 2>because have you been to a dollar store lately? Nothing

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<v Speaker 2>costs a dollar anymore. And now Dollar General says they're

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<v Speaker 2>not even making an money and they're shutting up shop.

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<v Speaker 4>Dollar General is closing nearly one hundred stores. The company

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<v Speaker 4>says it plans to close ninety six locations by January

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<v Speaker 4>of twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not too many, though. I think Dollar General opens

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<v Speaker 2>more than one hundred a day. I'm exaggerating, but not

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<v Speaker 2>by much. This is from Whas by the way, I

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<v Speaker 2>believe this is in Louisville.

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<v Speaker 4>Dollar General CEO says that the number of closings represents

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<v Speaker 4>less than one percent of the company's overall store base.

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<v Speaker 4>It also plans to close forty five of Dollar General's

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<v Speaker 4>home to core stores popshelf.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the Dollar General had home to course stores.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you know then beds through a dollar.

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<v Speaker 3>All right? The decision was quick, Amy, you get credit

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<v Speaker 3>on that one. That was very quick.

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<v Speaker 4>The decision came after a view of the store performance

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<v Speaker 4>and conditions to determine which stores should be closed or

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<v Speaker 4>maybe be rebranded. Now, as of now, it's not known

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<v Speaker 4>which locations are set to close. There are more than

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<v Speaker 4>thirty of those stores in the Louisville metrics.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, so again I told you that it was

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<v Speaker 2>from Louisville. Did he just say rebranded? Don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to close or rebrand. So you rebrand from

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<v Speaker 2>a Dollar General to what a dollar Lieutenant? I don't

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<v Speaker 2>understand what the rebrand would be. You go more high

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<v Speaker 2>end Dollar General. There's no lower end Dollar I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Dollar General is what it is. It's just cheap, cheap.

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<v Speaker 2>All the dollar stores just cheap. Tell you man, I

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<v Speaker 2>would think Dollar General will do really well as people

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<v Speaker 2>are worried about inflation and recession. It has in the past.

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<v Speaker 2>Walmart and Dollar General stores do well during recessions. They do,

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<v Speaker 2>they do, and yet here they are saying they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to close some shops. We'll find out how it plays out. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Big questions are coming up about the people being deported,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when we find out that we're trying to deport

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<v Speaker 2>people who have legal status in the United States, including

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<v Speaker 2>green cards or well respected positions within major universities. It

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<v Speaker 2>kind of started with this Machmud Khalil, who was a

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<v Speaker 2>guy protesting at Columbia. Many many schools were protesting during

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<v Speaker 2>the demonstrations over the warre in Gozar, right. Most of

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<v Speaker 2>the protesters were pro Israeli protesters. And as we know,

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to protesting, you cannot be pro one

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<v Speaker 2>side without being anti the other. That's how it works out.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't say I love the Dodgers without people knowing

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<v Speaker 2>that that means you hate the Yankees. Now, maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>do hate the Yankees, But is it possible that you're

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<v Speaker 2>just rooting for your team. Possible, But when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to the world of politics, and especially when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to something so significant as war and war where religion

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<v Speaker 2>is involved, you have to be my side or the

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<v Speaker 2>other side.

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<v Speaker 3>You're either with me or you're against me.

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<v Speaker 2>So Khalil and Khalil was in large part part of

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<v Speaker 2>the demonstrations at Columbia. We saw those at UCLA, you

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<v Speaker 2>see Irvine, Berkeley, Stanford, Santa Cruz. There's been a number

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<v Speaker 2>of California schools. Of course, we're taking part in these protests.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of them did feel distinctly anti Semitic. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>mean everybody there was, but it wasn't like they were

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<v Speaker 2>stopping it from being anti semitic either, So we know

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<v Speaker 2>how this played up. However, as much as we despise

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<v Speaker 2>that anti semitism is not illegal in the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>you're allowed to be anti Semitic, you're allowed to be racist.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not allowed to hire base on racism or anti semitism,

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<v Speaker 2>but you are allowed to be an a hole in America.

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<v Speaker 2>That hasn't changed in the last two hundred and fifty years.

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<v Speaker 2>You can still be a total a hole in America.

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<v Speaker 2>The line is when you're being an a hole and

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<v Speaker 2>it starts to threaten other people if there is demonstrable

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<v Speaker 2>harm being done, although did this guy, Makmu Khalil, actually

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<v Speaker 2>demonstrate any harm. He was a negotiator that was representing

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<v Speaker 2>the student protesters at Columbia. He is a permanent US resident.

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<v Speaker 2>He was arrested March ninth at his apartment by Customs

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<v Speaker 2>enforcement by ICE. According the AP agent said they were

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<v Speaker 2>executing a State Department order to revoke his student visa.

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<v Speaker 2>His lawyer says he didn't have a student visa. He's

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<v Speaker 2>a Green card holder, He's a permanent legal US resident.

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<v Speaker 2>They said, oh, we're taking that too.

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<v Speaker 3>What this is.

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<v Speaker 2>This is like when you were a kid and the

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<v Speaker 2>bully came by and punched you and said give me

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<v Speaker 2>your lunch money, and you said, I've got my lunch money,

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<v Speaker 2>but please don't take my allowance.

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<v Speaker 3>I just got it.

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<v Speaker 2>And the bully goes, oh, can give me that allowance too.

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<v Speaker 3>That's basically what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>So the State Department says, we want a student, we're

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<v Speaker 2>taking away with the student visa. The lawyer says he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have he's a permanent US resident. Oh, we're taking

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<v Speaker 2>that away too. And why is that? Because Trump has

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<v Speaker 2>signed an order, signed an executive order to cancel and

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<v Speaker 2>deport the students and all the student visas of any

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<v Speaker 2>hamas sympathizers on college campuses.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a tough one.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason it's tough is again, you're allowed to disagree.

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<v Speaker 3>Even if your disagreement makes you.

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<v Speaker 2>A total a hole in the eyes of the majority

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<v Speaker 2>of people, you are still allowed to disagree.

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<v Speaker 3>In America.

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<v Speaker 2>You may remember after nine eleven there were a number

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<v Speaker 3>Look, nine to eleven was have home.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a terrible chapter in American history and that said,

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<v Speaker 2>you kind of understand why some people hate us, and

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<v Speaker 2>they don't approve of nine to eleven, but they kind

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<v Speaker 2>of understand why other countries, why other groups hate us.

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<v Speaker 3>Now dare you do that?

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<v Speaker 2>The real kicker on this case with the Khalil is

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<v Speaker 2>that Marco Rubio, formerly known as Little Marco, did a

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<v Speaker 3>But it sounds like by all accounts he did.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a student visa, then he had a permanent

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<v Speaker 2>ideas now.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's not just him.

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<v Speaker 2>There was also a doctor who was detained, now a

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<v Speaker 3>Just after six pm six from ABC seventh.

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<v Speaker 6>Saturday, planes carrying more than two hundred Venezuelan prisoners left

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<v Speaker 3>Are we at war with Venezuela? Anybody? Anybody? The answer

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<v Speaker 6>Less than an hour later, a federal judge temporarily blocked

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<v Speaker 6>to turn around, saying any plane containing these folks that

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<v Speaker 6>needs to be returned to the United States. But the

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<v Speaker 6>planes never turned around, and video shows the alleged gang

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<v Speaker 6>argue the administration defied the judge's orders, but the White

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<v Speaker 6>House argues the judge has no jurisdiction over the president's

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So that is key. And I guess I

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<v Speaker 2>thought there was more of this deported doctor. I want

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<v Speaker 2>I'll do that here in a second. But also you

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<v Speaker 2>just heard the report from ABC saying we didn't like

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<v Speaker 3>The administration just says, hey, wait, what jurisdiction do judges have?

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<v Speaker 3>What can federal judges?

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<v Speaker 2>They don't really get to talk about us, and they

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<v Speaker 2>have no jurisdiction over us. We're the White House for

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<v Speaker 2>Pete's sake, which means that we no longer have checks

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<v Speaker 2>and balances. We just have separate silos where judges issue

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<v Speaker 2>rulings in vacuums that don't apply, and Congress writes laws

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<v Speaker 2>that don't apply, and the White House executes laws.

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<v Speaker 3>That they don't even have.

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<v Speaker 2>Take a check on news KFI AM six forty Chris

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<v Speaker 2>Merrill Live. We are in the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>Could even my friends Chris Merrill KFI AM six forty

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<v Speaker 2>be with you as always every Sunday, Sunday Sunday, my friends. See,

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up in a rural area where I mean

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<v Speaker 2>there was like one private school nearest. There was a

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<v Speaker 2>Catholic school that was about twenty five miles away, but

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<v Speaker 2>the public schools were fine ish. So there is a

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<v Speaker 2>new trend that's happening. Parents are disillusioned with public school.

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<v Speaker 2>There's arguments over charter schools. Some states are trying to

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<v Speaker 2>their kids to private religious schools. Then you've got the

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<v Speaker 2>parents to say, we're gonna homeschool our kids because we

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<v Speaker 2>don't want them to be in doctor NATed by all

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<v Speaker 2>that edumacation. There's a new trend, and that is what

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<v Speaker 2>if the kids teach themselves? My mind is blown. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>these children will know what algebra is and know that

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<v Speaker 3>It's called unschooling.

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<v Speaker 7>Molly Bond's a former grade school teacher for a decade

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<v Speaker 7>now is a twenty four to seven educator for her

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<v Speaker 7>nine and eleven year old boys. They're being unschooled at

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<v Speaker 7>their Ann Arbor area home.

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<v Speaker 8>Homeschooling, you're educating your child at home. You're usually following

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<v Speaker 8>a curriculum versus unschooling. You're actually following your child's desires,

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<v Speaker 8>your child's interests.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we should have done more of that in school

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<v Speaker 2>because I was not interested in reading or writing or arithmetic.

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<v Speaker 3>I was interested in kickball.

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<v Speaker 2>Latin in elementary school, then dodgeball in junior high, and

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<v Speaker 2>then screwing around in high school. Is there a class

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<v Speaker 2>unscrewing around?

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<v Speaker 8>So you may grab a curriculum to help you with that,

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<v Speaker 8>but overall, you're really presenting like a feast for your child.

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<v Speaker 8>Think about like a Shmorgas board, a Thanksgiving feast, and

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<v Speaker 8>your child is picking and choosing what's interesting to them.

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<v Speaker 2>Lynnett Heines, that's great for a well rounded education.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 7>Lynette Hines is on the other side of the state,

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<v Speaker 7>near Grand Rapids.

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<v Speaker 3>This is out of the Detroit by the way, ABC

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<v Speaker 3>News in Detroit.

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<v Speaker 7>But she's on the same page with her three kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Schools.

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<v Speaker 9>The structure of them is set up really well for

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<v Speaker 9>certain students, certain learning styles and personalities, but there's a

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<v Speaker 9>lot who don't really.

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<v Speaker 5>Fit the box.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 7>Of school Michigan doesn't keep tags on how many kids

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<v Speaker 7>are enrolled in any kind of homeschool program, and per

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<v Speaker 7>the state Department of Education, there are no required tests

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<v Speaker 7>for students to take. Giving grades and submitting them to

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<v Speaker 7>the state are both voluntary.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that seems like a really good idea. No, not

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<v Speaker 2>a great idea. How do you end up with an

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<v Speaker 2>under educated society. It's simple, you don't educate them.

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<v Speaker 5>Tada.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, we were gonna educate our kids, but

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<v Speaker 2>then we thought do the kids want to be educated?

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<v Speaker 2>And then we said, kids, do you want to have

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<v Speaker 2>to sit around and read books that you don't like

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<v Speaker 2>all day about the things? And they were like no,

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<v Speaker 2>and we were like, that sounds great to us. So

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<v Speaker 2>we thought we would work on more of their education

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<v Speaker 2>at the playground. It is interesting to me that you

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<v Speaker 2>have trends like this, which honestly it's a few crackpots

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<v Speaker 2>doing this sort of thing because most homeschoolers are going

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<v Speaker 2>to follow a curriculum, so you got a few crackpots.

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<v Speaker 2>But the reason that it picks up any attention, and

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<v Speaker 2>in this case, it was a story in USA Today

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<v Speaker 2>this week that was like, unschooling is the new way, Like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not. And it's always somebody who's like, I just

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<v Speaker 2>want my kid. I mean, think of the weirdest hippie

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<v Speaker 2>stereotype from the nineteen sixties that you can and then

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<v Speaker 2>add a modern day twist to it, which usually involves

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<v Speaker 2>more nose piercings. Those are the parents now that are

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm vegan. Even my nose ring is vegan, and

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<v Speaker 2>all of my I got. I got all these different

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<v Speaker 2>like Japanese characters of tattoos on the inside of my

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<v Speaker 3>And my kids don't want to learn like from the man.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're not gonna We'll let my kids decide what

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<v Speaker 2>they want. They're they're five now, and they want to

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<v Speaker 2>be engineers, so we're gonna teach them to be engineers.

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<v Speaker 2>The parents who are for these sorts of things are

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<v Speaker 3>Generally speaking. Now, you may have someone, as they use

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<v Speaker 3>the story, who used.

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<v Speaker 2>To be a teacher, and that teacher, even though she says, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have a curriculum, that teacher has a general

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<v Speaker 3>The reason is that was her job. She went to

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<v Speaker 2>She actually has an education in child psychology. There's some

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<v Speaker 2>child development in her educational background. She may not be

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<v Speaker 2>understands the progress of the children. I'm far less concerned

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<v Speaker 2>with the former first grade teacher. This says, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>homeschool my kids and we're gonna kind of have a

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<v Speaker 2>loosey goosey curriculum because I have more faith that the

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<v Speaker 2>teacher with the experience is more likely to understand the

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<v Speaker 2>kids have to understand, have to know the basics AB's

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<v Speaker 3>But a lot of these TikTokers.

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<v Speaker 2>That are making this sort of thing popular now they're

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<v Speaker 2>influencers and we're gonna ride our bikes through every RV

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<v Speaker 3>They're the most crackpot parents you could imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>They have not been wildly successful in life until they

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<v Speaker 2>found TikTok and then the fact that they are eccentric

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<v Speaker 2>they do eccentric things, and then people watch them do

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<v Speaker 2>eccentric things.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Reason we watch reality shows on Bravo. Nutty people doing

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<v Speaker 3>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>And so all of a sudden, the nutting people find

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<v Speaker 2>other nutty people, and then the nutting people create communities,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the nutty people catch the attention of mainstream

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<v Speaker 2>and then we all say, look at this new trend.

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<v Speaker 2>This person is totally normal and had their butt cheeks

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<v Speaker 2>pierced together. Is now teaching their kids how to be

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<v Speaker 2>well adjusted. Adun'ts they don't poop because their butt scheeks

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<v Speaker 2>are pierced together. It's called unpooping. That's not normal, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not beneficial to society, it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>Good for the child.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet, because of the reach of social media and

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<v Speaker 2>the entertainment aspect of everything in our lives now, it's

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess what I'm saying is, please don't do

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<v Speaker 2>that to your kids. Please, Dear God, don't don't do that. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like all the things my kids are doing,

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<v Speaker 2>and honestly, I'm a little concerned that for one of

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<v Speaker 2>my three adult children, there's a chance they would try

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<v Speaker 2>this because they're the kind of person that would be like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing this un thing because it's not normal, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be different, just like everyone else that's different.

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<v Speaker 2>We're totally different than everyone else, all of us that

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<v Speaker 2>are doing the same thing. We're different and the same,

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<v Speaker 2>but different together as one. So I'm really hoping that

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<v Speaker 2>she grows out of that before she starts procreating his

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<v Speaker 3>It's being honest with you. Just hoping the great Doctor

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<v Speaker 3>Wendy Walsh and Doctor Wendy after.

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<v Speaker 2>Dark will give us some insight into all things related

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<v Speaker 2>to our relationships and uh maybe tell us bad parenting

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<v Speaker 2>one on one, letting your kids watch porn and then

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<v Speaker 2>blaming the porn.

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<v Speaker 3>That is next.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing wrong with that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean maybe if you're bill handled betting your dates

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<v Speaker 2>just a couple of weeks after you get married, then

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<v Speaker 2>that's problematic.

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<v Speaker 3>But otherwise the wrong though it's called due diligence.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Merril CAFI AM six forty on demand anytime the

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<v Speaker 2>iHeart Radio App. Shout out to my friend Raoul. Love

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<v Speaker 2>working with my friend every week. I look forward to that. Kayla,

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<v Speaker 2>Hi Kayla, Tayla, Hi Kayla, Hi Kayla, Hi Kayla.

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<v Speaker 3>Hike.

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<v Speaker 5>She walked away as doctor Wendy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting to you, and of course Brooker in the

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<v Speaker 2>hiszel tonight and I love I love me some Heather

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<v Speaker 2>Brooker too.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Doctor Renney, you know I didn't know if

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<v Speaker 3>you were there too.

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<v Speaker 9>I am knowing I'm always here. I appreciate you got

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<v Speaker 9>your women with you.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't worry.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the important stuff, right, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>So doctor Weddy walls Doctor Wendy after dog starts at

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<v Speaker 2>to seven o'clock. And as we know, I like to

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<v Speaker 2>talk with doctor Wendy, and I like to pick her

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<v Speaker 2>brain about things. I happen to see a story out

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<v Speaker 2>of one of the states that I hold near and

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<v Speaker 2>dear to my heart, the state of Kansas. I lived

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<v Speaker 2>there for seven years and I loved every second of it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a beautiful place, and I know Kansas gets a

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<v Speaker 2>bad rap, has been a fly over state.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a great place. Loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's a woman in Kansas who is suing porn

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<v Speaker 2>sites now after her fourteen year old used an old

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<v Speaker 2>laptop to watch adult content. She says, one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen times, I think she's underestimating it. Claims that porn

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<v Speaker 2>sites violated Kansas age verification laws.

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<v Speaker 3>So they're saying that the porn sites are the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>And they didn't do what they were supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 2>And Kansas law says that any site or adult content

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<v Speaker 2>represents a quarter of total content can be held liable

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<v Speaker 2>if they don't take measures to ensure that miners can't

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<v Speaker 2>access their sites. They say, however, that the law essentially

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<v Speaker 2>lumps other sites like Twitter together with porn sites, even

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<v Speaker 2>if distributing porn is not their main mission. This has

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<v Speaker 2>been my argument over the age verification stuff on some

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<v Speaker 2>of these websites anyway, and other states continue to sign on,

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<v Speaker 2>and I understand why they do. It's to limit the

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<v Speaker 2>kids from accessing the pornography. But what's the point when

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<v Speaker 2>you're only going to do it to the sites that

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<v Speaker 2>have one third or one half or one quarter or pornography.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you've got X And I mean, for Pete's sake,

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<v Speaker 2>as we know from this, more than a quarter of

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<v Speaker 2>what you find on Twitter X is pornography, Snapchat all

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<v Speaker 2>these other sites that are easily accessible.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just think we're blaming We're blaming.

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<v Speaker 2>Penthouse for the kids looking at it back in the

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<v Speaker 2>old days, in the nineteen hundreds, remember those days, doctor Wendy.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Yeah, if I got a hold of my.

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<v Speaker 2>Dad's Playboy, it wasn't Hefner's fault. It wasn't the fault

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<v Speaker 2>of the Zephyr station on the corner of Broadway in

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<v Speaker 2>State which was the only place within walking distance.

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<v Speaker 3>So that that that sold smut from my house.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh wait wait, that's the difference, is that that your

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<v Speaker 9>dad had to bring it into the house.

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<v Speaker 5>Now it's available in every child's phone.

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<v Speaker 2>It's well, well, who gave my kid the phone? I mean, ultimately,

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<v Speaker 2>are your parents? Let me yes, I got three of

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<v Speaker 2>them and I'm a terrible parent. Yeah, and you think

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<v Speaker 2>you can control their use. Let me tell you the

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<v Speaker 2>kids who came over to my in middle school who

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<v Speaker 2>were not allowed to have phones. The first thing they

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<v Speaker 2>do is pick up any device or walk to any

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<v Speaker 2>computer and log onto all their accounts.

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<v Speaker 5>They all still have accounts.

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<v Speaker 9>It's worse for those parents because the parents didn't know

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<v Speaker 9>that their kids had all these social media accounts.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I get that it's tougher to police the

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<v Speaker 2>kid's activities right than it ever has been before. But

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't mean that parents don't have any responsibility. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean that the parents can be like, this is

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<v Speaker 2>porn Hub's fault for my kid looking at So.

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<v Speaker 9>Let's talk about the kind of pornography. There's one thing,

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<v Speaker 9>but if their dad had some Playboy Soft porn, cute

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<v Speaker 9>little air brushed young women.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, you can't find that anymore.

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<v Speaker 9>No, Now we see violence, we see misogyny. Young boys

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<v Speaker 9>are growing up to believe that this is love and

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<v Speaker 9>this is sex. They assume that young girls want to

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<v Speaker 9>be choked all because of the messages being sent by porn.

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<v Speaker 9>This is very, very serious and it's also highly addictive.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't agree. I don't disagree with anything that you've

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<v Speaker 2>just said.

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<v Speaker 9>I fully understand and I'm a big believer that it

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<v Speaker 9>takes a village now, having been a single mom for

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<v Speaker 9>twenty years, and I see how our culture loves to

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<v Speaker 9>pathologize parenthood, like, oh, it must be the parents terrible

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<v Speaker 9>to parents. We are in a village together, and there

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<v Speaker 9>are many things that influence our children. Parents only have

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<v Speaker 9>so much influence. They yeah, they dropped the genetic bomb

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<v Speaker 9>in the kid's head, but and they try to model

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<v Speaker 9>being a good person, but they are It is so

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<v Speaker 9>easy to undo good parenting through things like pal pressure

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<v Speaker 9>and the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>In a heartbeat, again, I agree with what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>My issue is that this kid found an old laptop

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<v Speaker 2>and then access the pornography in his own home.

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<v Speaker 5>If it's a he accessed it, it's well it does.

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<v Speaker 3>Matter in the same way that I had to find it.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to find my dad's stuff under the bed,

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<v Speaker 2>in the same way that this kid was able to

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<v Speaker 2>find a laptop that his parents didn't didn't take care

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<v Speaker 2>of it, but he.

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<v Speaker 9>Was able to access it because the porn side opened

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<v Speaker 9>the door and let him in.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, if you are not adult enough to know

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<v Speaker 2>how to set up restrictions on your own Internet, then

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<v Speaker 2>you shouldn't be having kids.

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<v Speaker 5>Flat out, you're pathologizing parenthood.

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<v Speaker 3>I am a parent. I have to take accountability.

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<v Speaker 2>What I'm not doing is shirking that responsibility as a parent.

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<v Speaker 2>I will tell you the flaws in my children are

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<v Speaker 2>largely my fault.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, I do think that.

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<v Speaker 9>I think our culture at large also has a huge impact.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm not going to blame other people for my forthcomings.

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<v Speaker 5>Hypothetical question.

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<v Speaker 9>In a few weeks, I'm having a UCLA's lead cannabis

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<v Speaker 9>researcher on the show here, and he told me that

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<v Speaker 9>up to two percent of Americans are addicted to THHC

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<v Speaker 9>and cannabis and it is you know, we're talking about

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<v Speaker 9>millions of people.

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<v Speaker 5>It is legal.

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<v Speaker 9>There are myths about it that cannabis for instance, isn't addictive,

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<v Speaker 9>which is a myth. There are myths that because it's legal,

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<v Speaker 9>it's safe. There are myths that it's not a gateway drug,

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<v Speaker 9>it is, et cetera. We're going to talk to him

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<v Speaker 9>about that. So if your kid became addicted to weed

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<v Speaker 9>as a teenager, is that your fault?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I understand this legal.

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<v Speaker 5>It's available in every corner.

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<v Speaker 3>It is not legal for children. So neither is porn.

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<v Speaker 2>Neither are cigarettes. And yet somehow people get it right

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<v Speaker 2>for the porn. But if I find, if I find

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<v Speaker 2>my kid is smoking, I don't go sue Philip Morris.

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<v Speaker 2>I correct that parentally, so you go. I don't say,

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<v Speaker 2>my goodness, we're all victims here. I have problems with that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm not saying that the porn didn't do wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>They did. That's fine.

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<v Speaker 9>I think that we all need to take responsibility as

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<v Speaker 9>a society and as a culture to make the world

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<v Speaker 9>safer for minders.

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<v Speaker 3>Wholly agree.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't think that starts with saying not my fault,

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<v Speaker 2>somebody else's fault.

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<v Speaker 3>That's where that's where well.

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<v Speaker 9>I think there's a difference between saying not my fault

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<v Speaker 9>and saying shared responsibility.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's work together to solve these problems.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll look at you finding some nice middle down here

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<v Speaker 2>being the adult in the room.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like it. I love talking to you, I

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<v Speaker 3>really do. I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>This is why I listen to Doctor Wendy after dark

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<v Speaker 2>and she starts here at seven o'clock.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a wonderful show. I hope I got you. Hope

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<v Speaker 3>I got you. Warmed up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm warmed up. Good, go fired up?

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<v Speaker 3>All right?

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<v Speaker 5>Love it all right.

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<v Speaker 2>We will talk to you next week as well. Chris

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<v Speaker 2>Marril every Sunday, four o'clock right up until we hear

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<v Speaker 2>from doctor Wendy. She is next. It's KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio

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