WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.439 --> 00:00:06.440 Deborah, with her thirty years of being an ltrepreneur and 2 00:00:06.519 --> 00:00:09.919 creating over seven companies, knows exactly what it means to 3 00:00:10.039 --> 00:00:13.160 accept the mission. When you make that decision, when you 4 00:00:13.199 --> 00:00:16.359 accept the mission to become a solopreneur, to take yourself 5 00:00:16.399 --> 00:00:19.039 and your talents to market, then you embrace a life 6 00:00:19.079 --> 00:00:23.120 of not only unlimited possibilities, but also the unknown. It's 7 00:00:23.160 --> 00:00:26.280 an elixir of fear and bravery that only someone who's 8 00:00:26.359 --> 00:00:30.480 taken the leap really understands. On our show, deb digs 9 00:00:30.559 --> 00:00:33.359 deep with her guests to highlight what you the listener 10 00:00:33.399 --> 00:00:36.560 wants to know, the stories, the whys, and the hows 11 00:00:36.759 --> 00:00:40.000 to navigate the journey to success. Get ready to hear 12 00:00:40.039 --> 00:00:43.039 from some of the most incredible mission takers from Generation 13 00:00:43.280 --> 00:00:46.560 Z to boomers. So sit up, perk up, and get 14 00:00:46.600 --> 00:00:49.320 ready to be blown away. Now here is your host, 15 00:00:49.560 --> 00:00:50.560 Deborah Drummond. 16 00:00:53.039 --> 00:00:57.960 Welcome back to yet another a Priminal episode. Thanks, thank 17 00:00:58.000 --> 00:01:03.280 you Podcast Story you rock. Oh my goodness, I'm going 18 00:01:03.320 --> 00:01:05.519 to tell you after today's. 19 00:01:05.040 --> 00:01:09.239 Show you are going to feel so good about you. 20 00:01:09.239 --> 00:01:12.680 You're already great humans doing great things and sharing the 21 00:01:12.719 --> 00:01:16.159 show and asking the questions and contacting the speakers. 22 00:01:16.359 --> 00:01:19.000 So appreciate that, but you're just going to have a 23 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:21.719 little bit more hop in your step after you listen 24 00:01:21.760 --> 00:01:22.640 to this episode. 25 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:25.680 We have an incredible group, and I know you love 26 00:01:25.719 --> 00:01:27.760 group shows, so we're doing our best. 27 00:01:28.319 --> 00:01:29.280 We're bringing it to you. 28 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:31.159 Today. 29 00:01:31.159 --> 00:01:33.000 We're going to talk about personal development. 30 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:36.400 Now, a lot of times people listen to our shows 31 00:01:36.439 --> 00:01:37.519 are entrepreneurs. 32 00:01:37.879 --> 00:01:39.000 They're kind of braving up. 33 00:01:39.040 --> 00:01:42.120 They're listening to how we do it first, learning from 34 00:01:42.159 --> 00:01:43.560 the people that come onto the show. 35 00:01:44.079 --> 00:01:45.760 But I've been doing this. 36 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:48.159 Entrepreneur thing for a while and I haven't met an 37 00:01:48.319 --> 00:01:52.040 entrepreneur that isn't out there with a fairly considerable amount 38 00:01:52.079 --> 00:01:54.640 of success, that hasn't had to do some of that 39 00:01:54.760 --> 00:01:57.519 inside job. And so we're going to hear from some 40 00:01:57.680 --> 00:02:02.040 incredible people and a variety of incredible women today that 41 00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:05.959 are talking about personal development. Whether they're in it, it's 42 00:02:06.040 --> 00:02:08.319 part of their business, it's the reason why they did 43 00:02:08.360 --> 00:02:09.960 the book, it's the reason why. 44 00:02:09.879 --> 00:02:10.680 Dot dot dot. 45 00:02:10.800 --> 00:02:12.240 But you're going to hang out with us and you're 46 00:02:12.240 --> 00:02:14.759 going to hear all about that today, So you're going 47 00:02:14.800 --> 00:02:17.080 to feel extra special. You're going to want to listen 48 00:02:17.080 --> 00:02:19.639 to this episode over and over and over again, because 49 00:02:19.639 --> 00:02:22.479 when you have a multitude of speakers that are talking 50 00:02:22.520 --> 00:02:26.400 about I think such an important subject, which is why 51 00:02:26.560 --> 00:02:29.520 we put it into the mix for this season is 52 00:02:29.599 --> 00:02:34.560 because the better you become, the better you become. Right, 53 00:02:34.639 --> 00:02:40.800 So let me introduce you now incredible podcast guests today. 54 00:02:41.039 --> 00:02:43.840 We have people listening, but we also have people watching. 55 00:02:44.240 --> 00:02:46.159 So as I mentioned, you know, just call it your 56 00:02:46.240 --> 00:02:47.759 name if you can, just kind of put a little 57 00:02:47.800 --> 00:02:48.319 wave up. 58 00:02:48.240 --> 00:02:51.319 And say hello, so people know who people are. 59 00:02:51.639 --> 00:02:53.560 All of your information are in your show notes, and 60 00:02:53.599 --> 00:02:55.479 of course everyone knows they can go to dev drum 61 00:02:55.560 --> 00:02:56.159 dot com and. 62 00:02:56.159 --> 00:02:58.639 Go who was that person in the green shirt. 63 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:01.960 That was on your show and we'll trace it back 64 00:03:01.960 --> 00:03:03.919 for you. But we have miss Kathy Holt. 65 00:03:03.680 --> 00:03:07.000 In the house. We have Carol Kolpaman in the house. 66 00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:11.680 We have Tiffany White, so wave people because people are watching, 67 00:03:11.759 --> 00:03:14.240 so they know who you're who you're talking about. We 68 00:03:14.360 --> 00:03:17.240 have Bianca LaRue. And then I am going to attempt 69 00:03:17.280 --> 00:03:19.960 Jennifer's name. She told me I could say Jennifer, kay, 70 00:03:20.159 --> 00:03:23.199 but I try to do everyone's name. Jennifer can and 71 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:28.240 why and if I'm wrong, okay, she's going to correct me. 72 00:03:28.599 --> 00:03:29.560 So why don't we do this? 73 00:03:29.599 --> 00:03:32.240 Why don't we kind of go around and obviously our 74 00:03:32.319 --> 00:03:34.159 topics personal development. 75 00:03:34.680 --> 00:03:37.080 If you could just introduce yourself and share with us 76 00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:39.800 what it is that you do, that'd be great. So Tiffany, 77 00:03:39.840 --> 00:03:41.719 let's start with you. Hi. 78 00:03:42.199 --> 00:03:46.879 My name is Tiffany White. I live in Victoria, Beautiful, Victoria, BC, 79 00:03:47.599 --> 00:03:53.039 up in Canada. I am an ADHD Trauma counselor who 80 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:57.520 helps and supports people with ADHD who have trauma, as 81 00:03:57.520 --> 00:03:59.960 well as build real life tools to help and support 82 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:03.879 them to navigate the challenges that ADHD can bring. 83 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:06.639 Fantastic, Thank you so much. 84 00:04:07.000 --> 00:04:13.639 And Jennifer, Hi, Imagine waking up each day feeling deeply 85 00:04:13.639 --> 00:04:16.839 connected to your purpose, energized, aligned with your true self. 86 00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:20.040 That's the transformation I guided women through at New Gen Community. 87 00:04:20.240 --> 00:04:23.519 I'm Jennifer Canuma. I'm based in Vancouver, BC and help 88 00:04:23.560 --> 00:04:27.040 women worldwide breakthrough from burnout, reconnect with their creativity, and 89 00:04:27.079 --> 00:04:30.480 take bold steps towards making a life of clarity and fulfillment. 90 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:33.000 Wow, look at that, We're going to have a great 91 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:36.240 time today. Kathy Hols, Yes. 92 00:04:36.399 --> 00:04:39.120 I'm Kathy Holt and I'm in the New York, Connecticut 93 00:04:39.120 --> 00:04:43.199 area and I work in women's leadership development. And I 94 00:04:43.240 --> 00:04:46.639 truly believe that the first step in leading in your 95 00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:50.800 own life or your mental wellness is getting to know yourself. 96 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:53.519 You're with yourself twenty four to seven, and so why 97 00:04:53.519 --> 00:04:54.839 not have a great relationship? 98 00:04:56.120 --> 00:04:58.160 Perfect and miss Carol Koppleman. 99 00:04:59.279 --> 00:05:03.079 I am Carol Appelman. I'm in Goodyear, Arizona, and I'm 100 00:05:03.720 --> 00:05:07.879 CPK Solutions LLCI. I'm an editor and author and speaker. 101 00:05:08.639 --> 00:05:12.680 Fantastic And Bianca Bianca for those of you that were 102 00:05:12.680 --> 00:05:16.519 in Ireland and we just landed from today, Bianca was 103 00:05:16.759 --> 00:05:20.319 a was the closing speaker to the Ireland to sixty 104 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:22.360 two book launch and just nailed it. 105 00:05:22.279 --> 00:05:25.160 It was amazing. So welcome to this stage as well, Bianca. 106 00:05:25.279 --> 00:05:26.800 What do you do on personal development? 107 00:05:27.680 --> 00:05:27.920 Yay? 108 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:30.639 So my name is Bianca LaRue and I'm locating the 109 00:05:30.680 --> 00:05:34.040 Dallas Fort Worth area here in Texas and i am 110 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:36.879 the owner of Nora Mental Health in Fort Worth. So 111 00:05:36.920 --> 00:05:40.319 we are a clinic here who offer mental health support 112 00:05:40.360 --> 00:05:43.160 for the community. We take most insurance companies to make 113 00:05:43.199 --> 00:05:46.639 sure that it's not a barrier for people not to 114 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:48.160 get the help that they need and deserve. 115 00:05:49.079 --> 00:05:49.639 Fantastic. 116 00:05:49.759 --> 00:05:53.759 Wow, I'm looking forward to this episode absolutely so Tiffany 117 00:05:54.199 --> 00:05:58.720 back to you, what was it about this? What is 118 00:05:58.759 --> 00:05:59.399 it about what. 119 00:05:59.360 --> 00:06:02.759 You do that drew you to that? Or it came 120 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:04.160 to like, how did that come about? 121 00:06:05.720 --> 00:06:11.079 It started with having a child who has ADHD and 122 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:15.120 the challenges that I was facing to find support for 123 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:18.000 her as well as I have a partner who also 124 00:06:18.279 --> 00:06:23.639 has ADHD and seeing the struggles that he faces in 125 00:06:24.600 --> 00:06:29.399 just basic life skills. And so through that, I actually 126 00:06:29.480 --> 00:06:31.560 ended up quitting my job. I had a job and 127 00:06:31.879 --> 00:06:36.560 went back to become a psychologist due to the challenges 128 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:40.759 that I saw them face every day and not being 129 00:06:40.879 --> 00:06:44.680 able to be fully understood when they went and they 130 00:06:44.720 --> 00:06:47.279 saw clinicians. So they would go and see clinicians, but 131 00:06:47.360 --> 00:06:50.519 there was nobody who was really helping them, who fully 132 00:06:50.600 --> 00:06:54.079 understood what their struggles were day to day. And so 133 00:06:54.199 --> 00:06:59.399 I feel that having that lived experience of basically my 134 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:03.639 family being my teacher to help and support me in 135 00:07:03.800 --> 00:07:08.000 learning about ADHD as well as the trauma that comes 136 00:07:08.160 --> 00:07:13.639 with ADHD has made me become a better clinician in 137 00:07:13.680 --> 00:07:16.519 my field. And so that's how I came to be 138 00:07:17.319 --> 00:07:20.079 an ADHD trauma support counselor. 139 00:07:21.240 --> 00:07:24.560 It's not an unusual story, Hey, that we hear that 140 00:07:24.759 --> 00:07:28.279 people decide to step into a particular type of work 141 00:07:28.480 --> 00:07:30.920 or write a certain book, or become a speaker and 142 00:07:30.959 --> 00:07:33.439 a certain subject when it's really touched them. 143 00:07:33.600 --> 00:07:36.079 I think that in this world of. 144 00:07:36.240 --> 00:07:41.040 Personal development particularly that is not unusual. There's like a 145 00:07:41.120 --> 00:07:44.279 deep sense or a deep need to help others because 146 00:07:44.279 --> 00:07:47.959 of the experience and many times challenges kind of it's 147 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:50.759 been where it's been resourceless and you're like there's a 148 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:54.399 hole here, or I'm seeing this, or my clients keep 149 00:07:54.439 --> 00:07:57.160 coming up with this same question and they're not getting 150 00:07:57.160 --> 00:07:59.879 their needs met out there. So thank you so much 151 00:07:59.879 --> 00:08:03.680 for that. And Jennifer, what about yourself? How did this 152 00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:05.240 come to your world? 153 00:08:05.839 --> 00:08:08.519 Yeah, I've been sitting inside me for twelve years my 154 00:08:08.600 --> 00:08:10.399 GAN community, and I'd actually paid for the. 155 00:08:10.399 --> 00:08:12.279 U the URL all that time. 156 00:08:13.360 --> 00:08:15.399 But it wasn't until last year that I hit rock 157 00:08:15.399 --> 00:08:18.759 bottom in my corporate career, was pushed to stop that 158 00:08:18.959 --> 00:08:24.120 my medical team asked me to stop, and that just 159 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:26.120 allowed me to pull the bandit off and just launched 160 00:08:26.120 --> 00:08:28.240 into this business. So it launched in twenty twenty four. 161 00:08:29.040 --> 00:08:32.879 I had been ignoring signs for years around you know, 162 00:08:32.919 --> 00:08:36.759 burnout and how my life wasn't in alignment, and so 163 00:08:36.799 --> 00:08:38.720 it took kind of a village of people to help 164 00:08:38.720 --> 00:08:43.879 me rebuild myself, do my own self healing, exploring reiki, breathwork, meditation, 165 00:08:43.960 --> 00:08:46.720 and ways I hadn't before. And I also could no 166 00:08:46.759 --> 00:08:48.960 longer ignore the gifts that I had for healing and 167 00:08:49.039 --> 00:08:53.080 intuition and skills that allowed me to step into. 168 00:08:52.919 --> 00:08:54.120 My own inner power. 169 00:08:54.840 --> 00:08:57.799 And these are practices that allowed me to feel really 170 00:08:57.840 --> 00:09:01.200 aligned at my true self. And I'm to guiding others 171 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:04.279 on their own journeys of healing and self discovery, helping 172 00:09:04.320 --> 00:09:06.960 them break free from a burnout, find their inner clarity, 173 00:09:07.279 --> 00:09:08.879 and create the lives that they're meant. 174 00:09:08.639 --> 00:09:09.159 To lead. 175 00:09:10.840 --> 00:09:11.120 Again. 176 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:16.200 Well, congratulations, And have we not heard that before? 177 00:09:16.279 --> 00:09:20.519 Like, how many times have we heard something? Particularly people? 178 00:09:21.080 --> 00:09:23.960 You know, change is a big deal. Change can be 179 00:09:24.039 --> 00:09:24.639 really hard. 180 00:09:25.559 --> 00:09:29.679 Change can be scary, not only just emotionally, or you 181 00:09:29.759 --> 00:09:31.840 may not know where to go or how to have 182 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:35.120 someone help can navigate that. But there's many people that 183 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:41.039 like my paycheck, my medical benefits, my kids need me, 184 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:46.120 or you know, I'm supporting a family member or car payments. 185 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:50.279 I mean, it really is not as easy as just oh, 186 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:53.360 you know, I had a got feeling. I mean, the 187 00:09:53.480 --> 00:09:57.320 nag gets big, we hear about it, the noise gets louder. 188 00:09:57.080 --> 00:10:00.559 And then sometimes there's a situation that happens that kind 189 00:10:00.559 --> 00:10:03.399 of you know, for lack of a better articulation, is 190 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:06.000 unpleasant in sucks. And then a year or two years 191 00:10:06.039 --> 00:10:09.440 you're like, well, that was necessary, right, that was necessary. 192 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:12.120 So thank you for being transparent and sharing, because that's 193 00:10:12.200 --> 00:10:15.639 a that can be you know, challenging. Right, it's one 194 00:10:15.639 --> 00:10:19.000 of the reasons why we don't But congratulations and Kathy, 195 00:10:19.200 --> 00:10:20.639 what brought you to this work? 196 00:10:22.519 --> 00:10:26.600 Well, I truly believe that all women have what it 197 00:10:26.679 --> 00:10:29.120 takes to be leaders. But I grew up in an 198 00:10:29.200 --> 00:10:33.759 era back in the seventies where women were not often 199 00:10:33.799 --> 00:10:39.159 given opportunities to lead. You know, coming out of Upper 200 00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:43.159 Well High School and going into college, it was you 201 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:46.480 can be a you know, a nurse or a secretary 202 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:52.200 back then they called them secretaries or or a teacher, 203 00:10:52.639 --> 00:10:57.120 and those are great professions. But I wanted to know more. 204 00:10:57.200 --> 00:10:59.720 I wanted to be offered things that some of my 205 00:10:59.840 --> 00:11:02.679 may colleagues were being offered, you know, other students that 206 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:06.799 I wanted broader horizons. So even way back then, I 207 00:11:06.879 --> 00:11:12.879 really kind of got on my on my journey of 208 00:11:13.320 --> 00:11:17.440 empowering women, that we should be offered the same you know, 209 00:11:17.519 --> 00:11:20.679 access to opportunities and how we want to choose what 210 00:11:20.720 --> 00:11:23.639 we want to do is is our choice, but we 211 00:11:23.679 --> 00:11:27.240 shouldn't be limited because of the opportunities were offered. So 212 00:11:27.360 --> 00:11:31.360 that's how I really got started on my whole empowerment journey. 213 00:11:32.039 --> 00:11:35.879 Wow, isn't it? Isn't it incredible? The variety, like the 214 00:11:36.039 --> 00:11:39.320 variety and the stories. Carol, what about yourself? 215 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:41.919 Well, I came. 216 00:11:42.000 --> 00:11:44.759 I came from the same generation that Kathy did, and yes, 217 00:11:44.879 --> 00:11:50.440 that was a similar experience. And at I worked as 218 00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:53.759 I was actually an administrative assistant for many, many years, 219 00:11:53.799 --> 00:11:56.519 and then I went back to school at thirty five 220 00:11:56.679 --> 00:11:59.360 thirty three and got my bachelors, went on to be 221 00:11:59.399 --> 00:12:02.480 a corporate right or I was already writing anyway within 222 00:12:02.639 --> 00:12:07.559 my administrative business. And yes, my last job was primarily 223 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:10.840 men and I was making the same living that they were. 224 00:12:11.480 --> 00:12:14.679 But during that time I learned about burnout, proper burnout, 225 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:19.360 and I went through a divorce with an alcoholic so 226 00:12:19.440 --> 00:12:23.720 I kind of overcame that, and I think when I 227 00:12:23.759 --> 00:12:27.919 wrote my book and an opportunity came in my fort sixties. 228 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:32.279 I talked, really the book is about personal development, and 229 00:12:32.320 --> 00:12:34.879 I wanted to encourage women that you can do it 230 00:12:34.960 --> 00:12:38.440 and you can move forward and move up and on 231 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:41.159 from struggles in your life. 232 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:45.120 So wow, fantastic, Thank you so much for sharing. 233 00:12:45.440 --> 00:12:48.919 Bianca Yay, So I always like to share. I was 234 00:12:48.919 --> 00:12:51.919 born and raised in South Africa for eighteen years, and 235 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:55.399 it's mental health is a big taboo subject. So I 236 00:12:55.480 --> 00:12:58.120 was one of those teenagers that really there was not 237 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:00.360 a lot of resources out there for me, and I 238 00:13:00.399 --> 00:13:04.240 needed help badly. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to get any 239 00:13:05.559 --> 00:13:07.919 and so when I came to America, I was kind 240 00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:11.240 of shocked that people talked about mental health so openly. 241 00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:15.039 But the system is so flawed in this country that 242 00:13:15.399 --> 00:13:18.320 I have been waitlisted for months and years and I 243 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:21.639 still couldn't get the help that I need. So that's 244 00:13:21.679 --> 00:13:24.240 how I found Nora. I truly wanted to have a 245 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:27.639 community where people don't have to pay out of pocket 246 00:13:27.679 --> 00:13:30.080 to get the help that they deserve. That there's insurances 247 00:13:30.080 --> 00:13:32.279 that can help that can help them get the help 248 00:13:32.320 --> 00:13:36.320 that they deserve. That we have great therapists, we have emdr, 249 00:13:36.399 --> 00:13:38.240 we work with trauma, work with addiction. You know, we 250 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:41.720 were so many different diagnoses that we can help as 251 00:13:41.720 --> 00:13:44.200 many people as we can. And that is kind of 252 00:13:44.200 --> 00:13:47.360 how I got into this field, is to not wanting 253 00:13:47.399 --> 00:13:49.440 anybody else to feel the way that I felt and 254 00:13:49.519 --> 00:13:50.919 neglected in the system. 255 00:13:51.960 --> 00:13:56.000 Wow, we get thank you so much, Banka. We get 256 00:13:56.080 --> 00:13:59.120 inspired or I believe we get inspired. 257 00:13:58.600 --> 00:13:59.600 By many different things. 258 00:14:00.039 --> 00:14:03.200 Times we go to hear a speaker, it changes everything. 259 00:14:04.240 --> 00:14:06.960 Sometimes it's a book that really changes our life. We 260 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:09.480 read a book that speaks to us, like it's written 261 00:14:09.519 --> 00:14:12.879 for us. I love when they kind of flow up 262 00:14:12.879 --> 00:14:14.879 flying that you know, or they end up. 263 00:14:14.840 --> 00:14:15.440 In the mailbox. 264 00:14:15.480 --> 00:14:19.080 You're like, okay, get your message. Sometimes it's a music, 265 00:14:19.240 --> 00:14:24.440 sometimes it's a concert. Has there been a book or 266 00:14:24.519 --> 00:14:27.720 a person or something that you've delved into that's made 267 00:14:27.799 --> 00:14:28.639 an impact on. 268 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:32.240 Your own personal development, Tidney, I'll start back with you. 269 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:37.480 There is actually and I have read this over and 270 00:14:37.559 --> 00:14:40.759 over and over again at different points in my life. 271 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:45.759 The Places that Scare You by Pema Chadron. It's about 272 00:14:45.879 --> 00:14:51.360 navigating difficulty, emotions, embracing the scary places of our lives 273 00:14:51.440 --> 00:14:55.759 rather than avoiding them, and so it actually has helped 274 00:14:55.759 --> 00:15:01.879 me grow as a person. It's helped me so with 275 00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:04.840 the relationships that I have in my family and with friends, 276 00:15:05.360 --> 00:15:10.600 and it's taught me to look at different situations that 277 00:15:10.639 --> 00:15:13.000 are coming up within my own body and my own 278 00:15:13.039 --> 00:15:17.120 system from a different perspective rather than you know, oh, 279 00:15:17.120 --> 00:15:20.840 I'll just push that down because that's not needed in 280 00:15:20.879 --> 00:15:24.279 this situation. And so, yeah, so that was the book 281 00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:26.360 that really made a huge impact on me. 282 00:15:27.120 --> 00:15:29.240 Thank you for sharing. What about Yourself, Jennifer. 283 00:15:30.759 --> 00:15:34.559 Yeah, one book that profoundly impacted me in my healing 284 00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:37.320 journey is called Welcome Home, A Guide to Building a 285 00:15:37.320 --> 00:15:40.799 Home for Your Soul by Najua Ebien, And this book 286 00:15:40.879 --> 00:15:44.159 uses the metaphor of a house to guide readers into 287 00:15:44.159 --> 00:15:48.240 building a sanctuary within themselves. And she introduced concepts of, 288 00:15:48.440 --> 00:15:52.200 you know, constructing rooms of our inner home such as 289 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:57.080 self love for gisboness, compassion, clarity, surrender, and the dream 290 00:15:57.120 --> 00:16:00.360 garden to foster self worth and belonging and happiness. And 291 00:16:00.399 --> 00:16:02.600 I just love the approach that she has and it 292 00:16:02.639 --> 00:16:06.399 deeply resonated with me, and it emphasizes the importance of 293 00:16:06.480 --> 00:16:11.360 creating a stable foundation inside ourselves rather than seeking external validation. 294 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:14.200 And it just has a beautiful combination of storytelling and 295 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:18.600 poetry and practical tools and was yeah, very instrumental in 296 00:16:18.639 --> 00:16:20.759 my own healing and self discovery. I love it. 297 00:16:21.480 --> 00:16:23.639 Thank you so much. And Kathy, what about yourself? 298 00:16:23.639 --> 00:16:25.440 Now? I know that you're an author and you have 299 00:16:25.519 --> 00:16:28.039 a brilliant book, so please feel frettish tell us at 300 00:16:28.039 --> 00:16:29.960 the topic what the name of your book is. 301 00:16:29.960 --> 00:16:32.039 But has there been any other influence for you? 302 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:34.679 Yes? 303 00:16:35.799 --> 00:16:38.039 And I'm really dating myself with this book. And it 304 00:16:38.480 --> 00:16:44.039 was almost kind of childish, but it's called Jonathan living 305 00:16:44.840 --> 00:16:48.320 Seagull Smith. I can't even get it at Jonathan Livingston Seagull. 306 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:51.120 And it's a book. I read it towards the end 307 00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:53.639 of high school when I was going through some frustrations 308 00:16:53.679 --> 00:16:59.279 about what was being what I was being told about, 309 00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:01.639 what I could do, I couldn't do, where I could go, 310 00:17:01.720 --> 00:17:05.240 what I couldn't what I wasn't supposed to be doing. 311 00:17:05.680 --> 00:17:08.480 And it's literally about a seagull who decides that he's 312 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:12.160 going to fly higher than anybody else and the struggles 313 00:17:12.160 --> 00:17:15.680 he goes through, but the fact that he does it, 314 00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:20.319 even though there's fear, there's uncertainty, there's all these feelings 315 00:17:20.400 --> 00:17:23.319 that he has as a seagull that I was feeling, 316 00:17:23.799 --> 00:17:27.119 so that really motivated me. It's like it was just 317 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:30.319 one of those energy things that it gave me to 318 00:17:31.359 --> 00:17:34.200 keep going because I had kind of hit some walls 319 00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:37.480 and some barriers. And then my book is called Unstoppable 320 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:40.920 Women Owning our Voices and Leading Change, And part of 321 00:17:40.960 --> 00:17:44.359 what I try and accomplish in the book is encouraging 322 00:17:44.599 --> 00:17:47.799 all women to step into leadership, to step into their power, 323 00:17:48.079 --> 00:17:50.680 to recognize they have what it takes to be leaders 324 00:17:50.720 --> 00:17:55.079 because I think so often we've been told no, and 325 00:17:55.880 --> 00:17:58.799 I wanted to tell them yes, absolutely, go for it. 326 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:01.200 Thank you so much. 327 00:18:01.519 --> 00:18:03.960 It's interesting when you say you're dating yourself some of 328 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:06.079 the I think the beautiful thing. And if you haven't 329 00:18:06.079 --> 00:18:08.000 written a book, I encourage you to at least do 330 00:18:08.039 --> 00:18:12.359 a chapter or a page or a quote or something, 331 00:18:12.839 --> 00:18:16.200 because it is truly and I bet we can all 332 00:18:16.319 --> 00:18:18.519 say that that there has been a page or a 333 00:18:18.599 --> 00:18:22.480 quote or a meme or particularly a book like you said, 334 00:18:23.160 --> 00:18:25.119 I remember hearing about that book. Not to say that 335 00:18:25.200 --> 00:18:28.640 we're so far apart, but mine was Shakty Guywan Living 336 00:18:28.640 --> 00:18:30.119 in the Light, and I think it's been written in 337 00:18:30.200 --> 00:18:33.160 forty languages since then. Just say, you know, it's not 338 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:36.599 a new book, but I think a good book that 339 00:18:36.799 --> 00:18:41.200 has great value. When we talk about leaving legacy and books, 340 00:18:41.200 --> 00:18:43.319 I mean, how many people have read, you know, so 341 00:18:43.440 --> 00:18:47.039 many of the same books and it's impactful and it's 342 00:18:47.079 --> 00:18:49.079 made impactful. I think that's one of the beautiful things 343 00:18:49.119 --> 00:18:53.920 as we were experiencing this big implosion of anthologies and 344 00:18:54.039 --> 00:18:56.599 books and people stepping up and writing their own words 345 00:18:56.599 --> 00:19:00.319 on paper, whatever it is, a page, a paragraph, book, 346 00:19:00.359 --> 00:19:03.759 what have you, is that it really does leave impact. 347 00:19:03.759 --> 00:19:06.400 And sometimes we think, oh, all these books have made 348 00:19:06.519 --> 00:19:08.839 impact and we've read them over and over again or 349 00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:11.279 we've passed them around, and we don't realize that could 350 00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:12.039 be us. 351 00:19:12.440 --> 00:19:15.920 Right, there's a disconnect to like, ooh, my words could 352 00:19:15.960 --> 00:19:20.279 live legacy, you know, and you'll have to. But a 353 00:19:20.279 --> 00:19:23.680 good book is a good book. Carol, talking about. 354 00:19:23.400 --> 00:19:26.880 Books, I would say, eat Pray, Love, Eat Pray Love 355 00:19:27.640 --> 00:19:30.519 the entire book. I read it at the time that 356 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:33.880 I was going through I think, my divorce actually, and 357 00:19:33.960 --> 00:19:41.559 it reignited that passion just to embrace life. So I 358 00:19:41.640 --> 00:19:44.279 go back to that, remember when I'm going through anything, 359 00:19:44.680 --> 00:19:48.799 to embrace life. We're fortunate to be living and I 360 00:19:48.839 --> 00:19:53.599 think we're fortunate to Just there was a there was 361 00:19:53.680 --> 00:19:57.480 a phrase of a movie and all I can say, 362 00:19:57.640 --> 00:20:00.599 you can eat the blank of life. And I can't 363 00:20:00.599 --> 00:20:05.680 remember what it was called. And it was like that 364 00:20:05.960 --> 00:20:08.279 just he was an Italian guy and I'm half Italian. 365 00:20:08.319 --> 00:20:11.480 It was like eat eat life, eat life. 366 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:12.720 You know what I'm saying. 367 00:20:13.119 --> 00:20:15.480 Absolutely, that's great, that's great. 368 00:20:15.759 --> 00:20:18.519 I have to say, before I went on this recent trip, 369 00:20:19.839 --> 00:20:22.319 I was, you know, doing some work on my coach 370 00:20:22.759 --> 00:20:26.359 and that movie showed up and I thought, oh, I 371 00:20:26.400 --> 00:20:27.319 know you're showing up. 372 00:20:27.359 --> 00:20:29.200 I need to watch that and I need to watch 373 00:20:29.240 --> 00:20:31.160 it today. Yeah, And it was. 374 00:20:31.279 --> 00:20:35.160 It's such it's so great. There's so many meanings to 375 00:20:35.279 --> 00:20:36.000 many of the things. 376 00:20:36.079 --> 00:20:40.160 Yeah, yes, all right, Bianca. And what about yourself? 377 00:20:40.880 --> 00:20:43.240 Yes, I think I'll mention two books. The first book 378 00:20:43.359 --> 00:20:46.519 is Body, The Body Keeps the Score. I think that's 379 00:20:46.559 --> 00:20:50.039 a very powerful book. You know just about your body remembers, 380 00:20:50.079 --> 00:20:53.799 it stores the trauma and even if you don't remember everything, 381 00:20:53.799 --> 00:20:57.480 your body does. That's been extremely helpful book. It's very intense, 382 00:20:57.559 --> 00:21:00.920 but I highly recommend it. The other book I think 383 00:21:00.920 --> 00:21:03.839 it's made a massive difference in my life is The 384 00:21:03.960 --> 00:21:06.759 Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins. I think a lot 385 00:21:06.799 --> 00:21:10.079 of people in this world, especially people who struggle as well, 386 00:21:10.119 --> 00:21:12.400 constantly worry about what other people say about them or 387 00:21:12.440 --> 00:21:16.079 what they you know, we constantly worry about everything where 388 00:21:16.079 --> 00:21:18.200 it's just like let them, let them gossip about you, 389 00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:20.880 let them, you know, not accept you for who you are. 390 00:21:21.200 --> 00:21:23.599 And so I definitely enjoy that book. 391 00:21:24.359 --> 00:21:26.359 No, those are two really great books, and I think 392 00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:30.119 that I mean, sometimes the most simplest things. 393 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:31.920 I mean, but like you said, let them. 394 00:21:31.960 --> 00:21:36.559 There's a lot of power in removing yourself from situations 395 00:21:36.559 --> 00:21:39.319 that you may or may not have control on or 396 00:21:39.359 --> 00:21:41.759 that you mean, we can't control. 397 00:21:42.279 --> 00:21:44.640 And sometimes I love Daniel Damon for this. 398 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:48.519 When I studied him early days, he'd be like, you know, 399 00:21:48.599 --> 00:21:50.400 ninety percent of the things that your brain says to 400 00:21:50.400 --> 00:21:53.640 you isn't true. Like you literally in a nanosecond will 401 00:21:53.680 --> 00:21:56.440