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<v Speaker 1>All right, everyone, this episode of Wrestle Magic, we're having

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<v Speaker 1>another interview with one of these legendary a j W women.

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<v Speaker 1>This time we're talking to Miss in the Way. And

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<v Speaker 1>as we begin, ma'am, how are you doing and what

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<v Speaker 1>have you been up to lately?

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<v Speaker 2>I know, Ima, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's even.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, she's wrestling still, She's still a wrestler. She's wrestling

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<v Speaker 2>this bunch of matches still, and right now she's at

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<v Speaker 2>her own shop and it's kind of busy. Her shot

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<v Speaker 2>up his name a Kayu. It's very busy.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, oh wow. So what kind of shop is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Would you say it was a bar or a restaurant?

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<v Speaker 1>What kind is it?

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<v Speaker 3>What's it gonna? No, my lounge?

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<v Speaker 2>But wan.

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<v Speaker 3>There. So it's it's like a bar lounge.

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<v Speaker 2>It has it has drinks, alcoholic drinks, regular drinks, and

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<v Speaker 2>it also has some food, little dishes that they usually make.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, cool, So a nice little place to be sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like a cool place. So is that over in Tokyo

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<v Speaker 1>or somewhere state side or.

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<v Speaker 2>Tokyo discas okay, So it's in it's in Tokyo. Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>The closest station is called musache Ikayama.

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<v Speaker 3>Station.

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<v Speaker 2>It's in closing Shinagawa Meguro area. It's it's it's right

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<v Speaker 2>by the train station.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Cool, Very nice to see you've got a side

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<v Speaker 1>hustle for yourself and you're still wrestling after it's been

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<v Speaker 1>what like thirty years that you've been wrestling so far

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<v Speaker 1>man it.

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<v Speaker 2>Koko s.

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<v Speaker 3>Medics.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been thirty six years this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's impressive, I must say, and uh, congratulations on

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<v Speaker 1>being able to have such a long lineage in the

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<v Speaker 1>wrestling business. But I also do want to ask, so

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<v Speaker 1>what does it take to be able to continue to

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<v Speaker 1>wrestle for that long?

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<v Speaker 3>H Yeah? Snap, mine not range.

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<v Speaker 2>Need Okay. So really number one reason was she she

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<v Speaker 2>lost the timing of retiring, but really she was. She

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<v Speaker 2>used to be in the promotion a j W That's

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<v Speaker 2>that's where she started, and in a j W old

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<v Speaker 2>Japan Joshi Wrestling, twenty five year old was the the

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<v Speaker 2>n cut off line for a lot of wrestlers. That

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<v Speaker 2>age was you supposed to retire, but that they quit

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<v Speaker 2>that retirement age of twenty five. So she kept wrestling

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<v Speaker 2>for thirty six years that that she loved.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's incredible and I'm glad to see they were

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<v Speaker 1>able to still keep going and be healthy with it

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<v Speaker 1>and everything. That is incredible. I'm very impressed with that now.

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<v Speaker 2>So the mother no ke Sizani sanjo uk income.

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<v Speaker 3>Still in the schedule, it ni money.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so really actually, I've been having a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>injuries about like recently it's a little minor once, but

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<v Speaker 2>like two years ago, she she cut she injured.

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<v Speaker 3>Her Oh okay, you kill yes, both both legs.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, that's that hurts.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the big injury that she had two years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm so sorry to hear that. Wow. I am

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<v Speaker 1>sorry that you've been dealing with that. But glad to

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<v Speaker 1>see that you're still in good spirits and you still

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<v Speaker 1>seem happy with where you're at.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>The more the more this, I know make it a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people saying the retirement retirement to her, but

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<v Speaker 2>she keep she could keep on wrestling, and she loves wrestling,

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<v Speaker 2>so she's gonna keep on doing whatever as long as

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<v Speaker 2>her body is allowing her to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, if it's what you love, you might as well continue.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't blame you. Continue for as long as

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<v Speaker 1>you feel that you can. Honestly, if you think you

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<v Speaker 1>can go forever, do it till the end, if that's

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<v Speaker 1>truly what you love. I don't blame you at.

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<v Speaker 2>All, Ada, I know I can't go there. Job. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so let's get into the inner view portions. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's start at the beginning. So can we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>your childhood a little bit and what inspired you to

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<v Speaker 1>become a wrestler.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know, but it is like listening show, so

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<v Speaker 2>they know the got to.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell you this since.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Once in Nanita, you know there that the the guy is.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people do not believe her. But as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as she came out crying as a baby, like

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<v Speaker 2>she knew she wanted to be a wrestler. She already

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<v Speaker 2>made up her mind as soon as she came out

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<v Speaker 2>to this world. And she always wanted to be the strongest,

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<v Speaker 2>and she wanted to be rich, and she wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>be famous, and she thought the pro wrestling was what

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<v Speaker 2>she wanted to do to be that to get her

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<v Speaker 2>dream come true. And she always wanted to be the

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<v Speaker 2>strongest woman, the strongest wrestler in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I can definitely believe that. You know, sometimes you just

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<v Speaker 1>know what you wanted to be from a very early age,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's understandable. Something else that I also noticed about

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<v Speaker 1>I've been watching a few of your matches and getting

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<v Speaker 1>acquainted with a little bit of your career and seeing

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<v Speaker 1>your move set. I've seen a lot of You've done

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty good amount of high flying. I see a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of moves that require a lot of strength, so

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely believe you were definitely showing that you had

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<v Speaker 1>it in you, like slamming Bowlnakano a couple of times

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<v Speaker 1>so that it was impressive to me, and as well

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<v Speaker 1>as a lot of submission olds. So you definitely made

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<v Speaker 1>a balanced move set. But I could see what you

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<v Speaker 1>mean about showing that you were the strongest. I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>believe that.

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<v Speaker 4>So they were so.

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<v Speaker 2>Haring. She's very happy for that. You you, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>you knew all this stuff. Then you studied the study

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<v Speaker 2>her wrestling.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh absolutely, and uh, Honestly, the matches that I was watching,

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<v Speaker 1>I was very impressed with you, and I'm very glad

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<v Speaker 1>that I have this opportunity right now after seeing it

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<v Speaker 1>because a lot of the things that I saw in there,

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking it potentially has inspired some of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that I saw in the early two thousands, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>even with the men's wrestling, and it was better than

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<v Speaker 1>most of the women's wrestling I had seen up to

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<v Speaker 1>a certain point in my life. So I'm very glad

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<v Speaker 1>that I've gotten to experience some of your work. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very happy to have you here.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, but I know, meet it, I know, meet

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<v Speaker 2>it there, I know and dance I didn't think, buddy.

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<v Speaker 2>So she's very very happy with your comment.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad. So another question that I do want to

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<v Speaker 1>ask about, so what was your face paint that you

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<v Speaker 1>always were inspired by?

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<v Speaker 2>No make so were.

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<v Speaker 3>The s and mine thanking? Yeah with this, but that's

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<v Speaker 3>what baby Mamo to be America the pain and stated

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<v Speaker 3>not the skettle and then the crow skettle on the

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<v Speaker 3>guys there and Kai seven masters I know ia there

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<v Speaker 3>and a cruise and all the on there had paint

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<v Speaker 3>to hi Hi n you know pat nights.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So we actually in a j W there was

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<v Speaker 2>three nos like you couldn't do and that was no liquor,

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<v Speaker 2>no tobag gold cigarette, and no men. That was the

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<v Speaker 2>three rules they cannot do. And actually she broke one

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<v Speaker 2>of them and she had to either retire right then

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<v Speaker 2>and there or she had to go. She really wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to be a babyface, but she had to be the heel,

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<v Speaker 2>so she started to do the makeup. She said, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll do the heel, but her favorite carlo was red,

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<v Speaker 2>so they had to ask. She had to ask miss

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<v Speaker 2>bull Nacano for the permission if she could use the

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<v Speaker 2>red because usually the heel they used black. So she

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<v Speaker 2>asked Bunakano if it was okay to use her favorite

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<v Speaker 2>color red, and then that's when it's all started. Like

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<v Speaker 2>if Bacano said no, this face painting would have never started.

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<v Speaker 2>It will never exist. It and the package that she

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<v Speaker 2>just showed, I'm sure the listener can see it. But

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<v Speaker 2>she sell this uh face mask, but it's for like

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<v Speaker 2>to glow your skin type of face mask. But her design,

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<v Speaker 2>her makeup design. You put the mask on and it

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<v Speaker 2>looked like you could be.

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<v Speaker 3>Face mask. That's what she sells at her bar.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's pretty cool. I like that a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of marketing too. That's pretty cool. But so was there

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<v Speaker 1>any significance behind the design itself, like the ie mask

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<v Speaker 1>shape or was that just something that you just came

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<v Speaker 1>up with and liked.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I know, Kyoko, I know no idea that.

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<v Speaker 2>Malanka.

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<v Speaker 5>It's it's really just original.

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<v Speaker 2>She she she made it up. That's her original. She

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<v Speaker 2>never really seen like painted wrestler, painted face wrestler before,

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<v Speaker 2>so that was her original design.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. And I know that you had mentioned about the

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<v Speaker 1>color red. From what I saw, it looked like there

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<v Speaker 1>was either a green or a yellowish color that you

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<v Speaker 1>used to wear as well. Was that Was there any

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<v Speaker 1>significance to that or was that just something to throw

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<v Speaker 1>off the red?

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<v Speaker 3>So it kind oh you know? Then?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, I'm very impressed Maverick, that you know about that,

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<v Speaker 2>because like a few a few times a year, she

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<v Speaker 2>does change the color because they have a tag league

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<v Speaker 2>and then whoever that she's with as a tag team,

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<v Speaker 2>she's trying to match the color with them.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's a different color that you're seeing.

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<v Speaker 2>She's very impressed that you know about That's.

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<v Speaker 3>What.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But all right, so what influences or role models did

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<v Speaker 1>you have coming up in the business?

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<v Speaker 3>Indicated the more I know, do you know about you?

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<v Speaker 3>So do you put that down there to him?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Before she became a wrestler, she really didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>anybody who she was wanted to be, or who she

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<v Speaker 2>was the fan, or she wanted was looking up to.

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<v Speaker 2>She just wanted to be the strongest wrestler that's out there.

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<v Speaker 2>But once she became a wrestler, yes, she she felt

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<v Speaker 2>like wow, like it's very strong, very inspiring. But before

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<v Speaker 2>that she didn't really have anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I see, Well, sometimes you just become your own role model.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's one way to see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Therebun Jibundy know Ja So used to must.

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<v Speaker 3>Send saw you Okay, Yes, she.

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<v Speaker 2>She always wanted to be somebody who she could inspire

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<v Speaker 2>somebody else as a wrestler.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's a pretty cool way to look at it.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh So.

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<v Speaker 1>Moving on to the next question. So you had debuted

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<v Speaker 1>back in the late nineteen eighties, So what was the

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<v Speaker 1>training process like? And uh what was the debut process

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<v Speaker 1>like for.

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<v Speaker 3>A A j A W.

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<v Speaker 1>I was about to say a w by accident.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Uh, Kyoko someone thank you. I need no debut,

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<v Speaker 2>so go there. I know, turining debut, what do you

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<v Speaker 3>But Jaga it did scuat.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So her trainer the when she became a wrestler

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<v Speaker 2>was a Jago Yokota, and back then it was so different.

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<v Speaker 2>It was it was so different from now. It was

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<v Speaker 2>squat one thousand times and set ups one thousand times

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. Was that number was just crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>That was normal back then in a j W.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so they made sure you were in shape. That's impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>Was there a time limit for how long you had

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<v Speaker 1>to hit one thousand or was it just keep going

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<v Speaker 1>till you can do it?

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<v Speaker 3>Put it? Discuss at all?

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<v Speaker 2>And so once the thousand is done, it goes the

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<v Speaker 2>next training. So whoever, that's slow. The training times get

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting. Interesting. So did you feel like it was a

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<v Speaker 1>good thing to have or did you think that it

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<v Speaker 1>was overbearing and just not necessary.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know through.

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<v Speaker 3>It whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>More that.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So nowadays you have to take a water break,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to take some break when they're practicing and training.

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<v Speaker 2>But that time during the a j W, it was

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<v Speaker 2>like more like a spartan exercise that you have to

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<v Speaker 2>do it. They will let you know that, they will,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, make sure you have to do it. They

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes they get physical if you don't do it, and

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<v Speaker 2>that was normal for them. So she went through that

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<v Speaker 2>that time she was she wanted to just cry and

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<v Speaker 2>leave and they not want to do any of those training.

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<v Speaker 2>But if she thinks think about it now, that uh

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<v Speaker 2>it worked because she could take anything in that ring

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<v Speaker 2>right now because of that training that she had.

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<v Speaker 1>I see, so it really did build you up in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that it could not nobody could break you

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<v Speaker 1>at that point. I like that thought process that it

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<v Speaker 1>really did build you up.

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<v Speaker 2>It's sanderstands. I think that was the biggest thing, like mentally,

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<v Speaker 2>especially physically of course, but mentally as it was, it

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<v Speaker 2>became really important for her.

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<v Speaker 3>It became really strong from that training.

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<v Speaker 1>I see. So what do you remember most about your

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<v Speaker 1>early days in a j W?

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<v Speaker 3>So Nanny can share the madam, Yes there be in

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<v Speaker 3>this skettle Nanda mm hm, who can do?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Share? You got and music? You got the musical, the

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<v Speaker 3>lokotos and I just canno coming like you can cake

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<v Speaker 3>and I too come okay. So you know the monakaka,

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<v Speaker 3>the yep, you know, the can I took you are

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<v Speaker 3>the sketle, I know even the kodak the we go

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<v Speaker 3>get I okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like she had to during the a j

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<v Speaker 2>W run. She had to have over three hundred matches

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<v Speaker 2>a year, so it's really was she if she had time,

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<v Speaker 2>she just enjoyed sleeping. The sleeping was the most time.

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<v Speaker 2>That that's all she remembered, the sleeping time. If she

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<v Speaker 2>has time for sleep, like even if it's like, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>she thought one time it was four o'clock. She thought

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<v Speaker 2>it was four a m. But it was four pm.

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<v Speaker 2>She was sleeping until when she didn't have match. And

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<v Speaker 2>even though she had to do certain things that she

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<v Speaker 2>had to do like cut her hair, go to you know, beauty,

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<v Speaker 2>beauty someone anything, she wouldn't she she had to do that,

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<v Speaker 2>but just sleep was the biggest thing. But the only

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<v Speaker 2>thing was during the match. Like when she was in

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<v Speaker 2>the Newcomer, they didn't really have matches, so that was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of tough for her because she could have had matches.

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<v Speaker 2>But when she became really good and start having a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of matches, even though it was more than three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred matches a year, she felt like it was fun

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<v Speaker 2>that how can I do this match? How can I

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<v Speaker 2>go against this opponent? That she it was fun planning

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<v Speaker 2>for that match.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time I see I see and you mentioning about

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping a lot. That kind of makes me think of

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<v Speaker 1>like how a teenager is after high school all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>So now it's making me question, So how old were

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<v Speaker 1>you when you made your debut and when you were

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<v Speaker 1>in training for ajw it.

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<v Speaker 2>To Kukasawa on the Non Sign of Dooky debut, she Masakato.

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<v Speaker 3>Cut good.

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<v Speaker 2>She was nineteen years old. She just graduated high school.

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<v Speaker 2>So she was nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, so pretty young but not like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not like sixteen or anything like that. That's very cool

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<v Speaker 1>that you were able to get in there young, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad to hear that you were always constantly thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about how can I do these different matches because you

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<v Speaker 1>can see a little bit of your style and your

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<v Speaker 1>philosophy in every match coming out in the storytelling that

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<v Speaker 1>you were able to portray. And I really appreciated the

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<v Speaker 1>work that you were able to put into it.

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<v Speaker 2>So no, ye, buddy, I know, but kyogo.

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<v Speaker 3>This so no he I take a come get it

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<v Speaker 3>was there said the county. There are quite quite don't

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<v Speaker 3>don't you this neck? But so you but said yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>is gonna there my so yeah then okay some and

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<v Speaker 3>I know most but saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so they while they were well, she was having mads.

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<v Speaker 2>Certain opponents then not really get like show planned man

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<v Speaker 2>that she'll go this way, but the opponent wouldn't really

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<v Speaker 2>get into the same thing that she was thinking about.

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<v Speaker 2>But certain wrestlers that she had a match with, they

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<v Speaker 2>could go back and forth, back and forth, like if

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<v Speaker 2>she get to do some style, they do some other styles,

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<v Speaker 2>she'll do some other you know, she'd just keep on

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<v Speaker 2>going back and forth. And I think that's made her

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<v Speaker 2>feel like, oh, this is fun opponent, fun match, and

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<v Speaker 2>she feels like those matches are the one that fans

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<v Speaker 2>feel like it's one of those best bouts because she

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<v Speaker 2>could feel the other opponent like they really got into it,

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<v Speaker 2>really good matches.

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<v Speaker 1>I see, I see. That's really cool that you were

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<v Speaker 1>able to bounce off each other's styles that way and

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<v Speaker 1>create a great match afterwards. That's really awesome that you

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<v Speaker 1>were able to figure out her feel that you could

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<v Speaker 1>really do that with some opponents that way. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really like that you were receptive to bouncing back and

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<v Speaker 1>forth like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So they were, isn't it think?

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<v Speaker 3>So you e E I did? Do you want.

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<v Speaker 2>To?

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<v Speaker 3>You must say, saying shoe Congo saying shoe, shoe, my

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<v Speaker 3>Kui said thistle, and.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like she didn't have to It feels like

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<v Speaker 2>it was a conversation. They didn't have to conversate, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was felt like a conversation where they were doing

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<v Speaker 2>their each style and example, the most wrestlers that went

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<v Speaker 2>against like that was Manami, Toyota, Aja Kon, and for her,

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<v Speaker 2>those are like one of the best threes. Of course

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<v Speaker 2>there were other wrestlers, but that was the most the

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<v Speaker 2>best three wrestlers that she feels.

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<v Speaker 1>She feels like that, I see, totally understandable and I

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<v Speaker 1>can agree with that. But one thing I do also

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<v Speaker 1>want to ask about is so I did want to

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<v Speaker 1>ask about this earlier, but it's just been in the

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<v Speaker 1>back of my head. So how was your relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>Jaguar Yakota and your training with her and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Jaga san.

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<v Speaker 3>M you got the disc about so quo not cotes not.

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<v Speaker 2>More.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna same bike so that more coutes.

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<v Speaker 1>So you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, I know she nice. The Mastasinami you see to

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<v Speaker 3>not as soon as I did. Yoka is my personal

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<v Speaker 3>Then the more you're takena I know, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>You okay, So when she when Jago your Quota became

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<v Speaker 2>her trainer. It's it was because other people when she

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<v Speaker 2>was still retau when she when she became Koko trainer,

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<v Speaker 2>she just retired as a wrestler. She retired once, so

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<v Speaker 2>she wasn't a wrestler, so she was just a trainer.

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<v Speaker 2>But when she was like really wrestler. While she was

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<v Speaker 2>she didn't retire, everybody couldn't really say much because she's

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<v Speaker 2>a sempi. She has a higher authority in that world,

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<v Speaker 2>so she wasn't a sempi anymore. She became she's she

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<v Speaker 2>has retired, and she felt more motherly like. So there

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<v Speaker 2>was no they couldn't joke about anything to Sampie like

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<v Speaker 2>a higher person. But she they were able to joke

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<v Speaker 2>around or talk about certain thing that they were going through,

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<v Speaker 2>like personal stuff also, so she really felt like she

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<v Speaker 2>was more like a motherly figure.

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<v Speaker 1>Then, Okay, that's cool. I'm glad that you were able

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<v Speaker 1>to have that relationship with your trainer at that point

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<v Speaker 1>and not feel so on a or anything like that

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<v Speaker 1>with her. That's a really good that you were able

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<v Speaker 1>to have that relationship. I'm really glad for that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So next question that I did want to ask about.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had read a little bit and I saw

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<v Speaker 1>a matter or two about the tag team that you

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<v Speaker 1>were in called double you know, and I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>ask about. So did they just put you two together

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<v Speaker 1>because your guys' last names. Did they call in a

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<v Speaker 1>meeting like, hey, we're thinking about doing this, or did

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<v Speaker 1>they just put it together one day on a car

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<v Speaker 1>and say, yeah, this is your guys team name. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this is who you're going to be.

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<v Speaker 3>So I know, you know, you know, you know with

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Music Hi. I think so, I think that the a

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<v Speaker 2>j W thought of in the beginning, it was like

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<v Speaker 2>because they both had that same last name.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, did they think that you guys were related or

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<v Speaker 1>something or was that just coincidence? Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>I know?

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<v Speaker 2>No, H goes in in a way to you know my.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, and the the that towlds you are, I know,

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<v Speaker 3>I know what you know and Antonio know because you

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<v Speaker 3>guys know course don't don't dremp gandastic to your car.

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<v Speaker 3>You know that ant and I know mass g John

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<v Speaker 3>my standing and that you know the Marquel.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So back in the days in a j W,

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<v Speaker 2>they were like more like really honest about things, and

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<v Speaker 2>they used to be like, yeah, they did put together

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<v Speaker 2>because their last name is together. But she was called

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<v Speaker 2>the ugly you know a way, and the other one

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<v Speaker 2>missed tacago you know, it was called the pretty you

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<v Speaker 2>know way. So they called because if they both called

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<v Speaker 2>their name, you know, they both turn around, so they

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<v Speaker 2>had to call one ugly you know and the other

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<v Speaker 2>one in the pretty you know way. So it was

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<v Speaker 2>it was like that. But in the beginning, yes, they

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<v Speaker 2>were together tagged because of their last name was the same,

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<v Speaker 2>but it really their style and everything really got into

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<v Speaker 2>it like it matched each other there, so they really

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<v Speaker 2>became a good tag team.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I was about to bring up, actually was

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that your guys's move sets, from what I

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<v Speaker 1>had seen, complimented each other very well. And I thought

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<v Speaker 1>they were similar but not the same, and it worked

432
00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:16.639
<v Speaker 1>well that you guys really did work well together, and

433
00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:19.280
<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate watching. I believe it was YouTube versus

434
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:22.039
<v Speaker 1>Bnami Toyota, and there was I don't remember the last

435
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:23.960
<v Speaker 1>name of the other person. I want to say it

436
00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:28.159
<v Speaker 1>was yum Motto. I don't remember the last name.

437
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<v Speaker 2>Santo stuck up.

438
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<v Speaker 1>I know.

439
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<v Speaker 3>Three could I could happy and there then I discover no,

440
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<v Speaker 3>no there Iki very h's so big, but that was

441
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<v Speaker 3>moster Henzo steps then not skettle and something personal there

442
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<v Speaker 3>you know now you know market could I know three

443
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<v Speaker 3>caculdn no saying Wami was that that is your net?

444
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<v Speaker 3>That that mon because I know you could, I know

445
00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:44.239
<v Speaker 3>that you know very you could Diamond attack. You know

446
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<v Speaker 3>this the skettle and the tiny marcinize you Heno steps

447
00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:59.880
<v Speaker 3>and occuse you that's Diamond, that's ar taco to so

448
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:06.760
<v Speaker 3>okay kicking you must start okay?

449
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<v Speaker 2>So I she think you watched the show that they

450
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:20.920
<v Speaker 2>with the Hagawa Toyota Manami versus. The story behind that

451
00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:26.280
<v Speaker 2>was they were ninety ninth champion and they just wanted

452
00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:30.679
<v Speaker 2>to be the hundredth champion, but you have to give

453
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:34.159
<v Speaker 2>the belt back once to be the hundredths champion. They

454
00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:36.840
<v Speaker 2>cannot hold the belt to be hundreds champions, so they

455
00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:40.800
<v Speaker 2>decided to give the belt back so they knew they

456
00:38:40.840 --> 00:38:43.840
<v Speaker 2>were gonna win. The tag was so good that they

457
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:46.719
<v Speaker 2>already had a confidence of winning, so they gave the

458
00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:50.559
<v Speaker 2>belt back and then they went against this tag and

459
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:52.800
<v Speaker 2>then they became a hundredth champion.

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<v Speaker 3>Themselves.

461
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<v Speaker 1>Ah, okay, that's a that's really cool that you were

462
00:38:57.079 --> 00:38:59.320
<v Speaker 1>able to become the hundredth champion. That's interesting that you

463
00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:01.239
<v Speaker 1>had to give it back so that you could do that.

464
00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:02.679
<v Speaker 2>I didn't I.

465
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<v Speaker 1>Didn't ever think about anything like that, and I didn't

466
00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:06.400
<v Speaker 1>know that's what was going on either at the time.

467
00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:09.599
<v Speaker 1>But I just looked up the name. It was Toshio

468
00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Yamada was the name that I was looking for.

469
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh ya, you know.

470
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<v Speaker 3>So YouTube, Okay, should exactly remember.

471
00:39:32.039 --> 00:39:35.559
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's fair. It's been a while, so I don't

472
00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:38.960
<v Speaker 1>blame you. But uh, all right, So moving on from there, So,

473
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:41.880
<v Speaker 1>did you face any resistance as a woman entering the

474
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<v Speaker 1>wrestling business?

475
00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:17.559
<v Speaker 3>No, Susan I discover does know.

476
00:40:20.440 --> 00:40:33.519
<v Speaker 2>I know? Oh so, she said, as a female wrestler,

477
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:38.519
<v Speaker 2>it felt like because she was a female. Uh, female

478
00:40:38.599 --> 00:40:43.159
<v Speaker 2>has a softer body move so she could do like

479
00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:48.920
<v Speaker 2>a different style. And just because the women's wrestler when

480
00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:53.280
<v Speaker 2>they come in as an entrance with the music, it's

481
00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:58.920
<v Speaker 2>it's way more pizazz like, it's it's more costume, is

482
00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:03.280
<v Speaker 2>looking nice more than like a men's wrestler. So as

483
00:41:03.320 --> 00:41:05.800
<v Speaker 2>a woman's wrestler, she felt like there was so much

484
00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:08.119
<v Speaker 2>she could do than a men's wrestler.

485
00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:10.039
<v Speaker 3>I see.

486
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Uh, there's only one men's wrestler that I will say

487
00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:18.480
<v Speaker 1>probably takes the cake on entrance and outfit being a

488
00:41:18.559 --> 00:41:20.599
<v Speaker 1>little bit more crazy, And that would be seth Rawlins.

489
00:41:20.679 --> 00:41:23.039
<v Speaker 1>If she's familiar with the things he's been doing.

490
00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:40.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh uh, dance, w war, skedo, chagar sonjo.

491
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:48.039
<v Speaker 3>So oh.

492
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:15.519
<v Speaker 2>Never yeah, because the entrance really make it, especially for

493
00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:19.800
<v Speaker 2>the pro wrestlers. She wanted to be make it like

494
00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:23.719
<v Speaker 2>a gorgeous, a beautiful. She wanted to make a good entrance,

495
00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:27.719
<v Speaker 2>so she did her own things. She did her own

496
00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:31.039
<v Speaker 2>style the entrance as a woman's wrestler.

497
00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:34.840
<v Speaker 1>I see, I see, and uh. Something that I noticed

498
00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:37.320
<v Speaker 1>about uh, I think it was more in the early nineties.

499
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:40.000
<v Speaker 1>It sounded like you had van Halen playing as your

500
00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:42.079
<v Speaker 1>entrance music. Was that accurate? And are you a fan

501
00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:42.760
<v Speaker 1>of van Halen?

502
00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:50.199
<v Speaker 3>So cutue name so the new bank hitting national so

503
00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:53.320
<v Speaker 3>no fun on the yeah you too.

504
00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:07.159
<v Speaker 2>Well you know.

505
00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:17.159
<v Speaker 3>Stem this. She became a fan once she listened to it.

506
00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:18.519
<v Speaker 3>Somebody brought her.

507
00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:21.800
<v Speaker 2>The music and actually she did not know who it was,

508
00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:25.880
<v Speaker 2>but once she heard that music in Japan, all the

509
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:30.079
<v Speaker 2>fans knew once that music come on. It was with music.

510
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:33.079
<v Speaker 2>So as soon as she heard the music, listen to

511
00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:34.599
<v Speaker 2>the music, Yes, she became a fan.

512
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:38.000
<v Speaker 1>I see, So what made you change you later on?

513
00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Then if I'm okay with if you're okay with me

514
00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:40.719
<v Speaker 1>asking that.

515
00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:57.840
<v Speaker 3>I know and I just got she she had to

516
00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:02.960
<v Speaker 3>change it because of the copyright use and stuff like that.

517
00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:25.760
<v Speaker 3>She's not sure, but it okay.

518
00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:31.519
<v Speaker 2>So back then, Fuji Television, a huge TV company, had

519
00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:36.440
<v Speaker 2>the A j W back, so it was them who

520
00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:41.400
<v Speaker 2>made a similar song to van Halen song. So I'm

521
00:44:41.480 --> 00:44:44.239
<v Speaker 2>sure it was that TV company that said it's a

522
00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:48.880
<v Speaker 2>copyright issue. So they made the song entrance music that

523
00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:50.360
<v Speaker 2>was really similar to that.

524
00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that makes sense because I was going to say

525
00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:58.280
<v Speaker 1>it did still sound like a van Halen esque once

526
00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:01.519
<v Speaker 1>it was changed, just wasn't you know, it wasn't an

527
00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:04.199
<v Speaker 1>actual like song from them, but you could still tell

528
00:45:04.280 --> 00:45:07.199
<v Speaker 1>that it had some inspiration we could say from van Halen,

529
00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:09.159
<v Speaker 1>which if that's what you liked, I'm glad they were

530
00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:16.800
<v Speaker 1>able to stick with it for you and this.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi T.

532
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<v Speaker 2>Episode.

533
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<v Speaker 3>Hi Hi.

534
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<v Speaker 1>Okay. So you were part of some legendary matches in

535
00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:37.480
<v Speaker 1>the nineties. Do any of them stand out as meaningful

536
00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:38.679
<v Speaker 1>or challenging to you today.

537
00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:43.119
<v Speaker 3>It's a cute you know, you know it's I'm not.

538
00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:52.719
<v Speaker 2>I know, do you show sing?

539
00:45:57.800 --> 00:46:04.159
<v Speaker 3>I know? Want your mind? Is someone some accent plastics

540
00:46:04.440 --> 00:46:17.679
<v Speaker 3>the schedule and look know it's the moon. This is

541
00:46:17.719 --> 00:46:27.519
<v Speaker 3>only what you go, I'm saying. Someone see it took

542
00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:32.480
<v Speaker 3>over sent the most look the knacka that's you go

543
00:46:33.800 --> 00:46:39.360
<v Speaker 3>knocka look at it. I said, stop get scaling that

544
00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:50.280
<v Speaker 3>buddy Oka my look at it was another st.

545
00:46:51.679 --> 00:46:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay so And during the nineties she had sixty minute matches,

546
00:46:56.480 --> 00:47:01.079
<v Speaker 2>sixty minute match draw matches, and she went against Manami

547
00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Toyota sixty minutes, lioniz Osca for sixty minutes, and she

548
00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:10.639
<v Speaker 2>believed another person was calaru Ito for sixty minutes. But

549
00:47:11.159 --> 00:47:13.760
<v Speaker 2>she was just so happy that she could wrestle the

550
00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:17.559
<v Speaker 2>favorite wrestling that she loved for sixty minutes in front

551
00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:21.760
<v Speaker 2>of the from the audience. So even though they couldn't

552
00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:26.239
<v Speaker 2>it was all draw matches, she was just so happy

553
00:47:26.360 --> 00:47:29.119
<v Speaker 2>that she was able to wrestle for sixty minutes in

554
00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:31.840
<v Speaker 2>front of the audience. And that was the most thing

555
00:47:31.920 --> 00:47:32.719
<v Speaker 2>that she remembered.

556
00:47:33.639 --> 00:47:36.039
<v Speaker 1>Ah, that's really cool. I like that outlook that you

557
00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:38.719
<v Speaker 1>just really liked being able to wrestle for that long

558
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:41.559
<v Speaker 1>in front of the crowd. If I may say so myself,

559
00:47:41.599 --> 00:47:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I really enjoyed watching some of your matches with Manami Toyota.

560
00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:47.239
<v Speaker 1>I thought they were very impressive. Both of your guys

561
00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:51.000
<v Speaker 1>move sets worked well together. And then my personal favorite

562
00:47:51.039 --> 00:47:54.719
<v Speaker 1>match that I saw though was Bowlnakano against you, because

563
00:47:55.039 --> 00:47:57.719
<v Speaker 1>seeing how she was hitting her leg drop on you

564
00:47:57.960 --> 00:48:00.760
<v Speaker 1>over and over and you just kept kicking out, it

565
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:04.559
<v Speaker 1>felt inspirational for a second, like you just did not

566
00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:05.920
<v Speaker 1>want to quit, and I felt like that was the

567
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:07.679
<v Speaker 1>story that you were giving off. And then when you

568
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:10.360
<v Speaker 1>won finally, it was a nice moment. I really liked

569
00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:10.760
<v Speaker 1>watching it.

570
00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:26.079
<v Speaker 2>I know, yeah Ti Manko and Ti Buddhist and Nan

571
00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:35.599
<v Speaker 2>and Nano okay I got the actually taking Koko Sanga

572
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:38.719
<v Speaker 2>and shurely stand the skeeddo so there are in shok

573
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<v Speaker 2>there and story most going I know, right, you know

574
00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:50.000
<v Speaker 2>cuts to you so so they got suco ino sta.

575
00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:02.079
<v Speaker 3>Only do you know Mata when his start must see

576
00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:10.280
<v Speaker 3>doing you only them what what the them? During the baron.

577
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<v Speaker 2>There?

578
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<v Speaker 1>I know.

579
00:49:18.039 --> 00:49:26.320
<v Speaker 3>Think you know you know Minnesota gid, but you know

580
00:49:26.679 --> 00:49:30.800
<v Speaker 3>most the stand the schedule, so the more and money

581
00:49:31.519 --> 00:49:36.119
<v Speaker 3>when the hotel are dated, theresetta know there I know

582
00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:44.159
<v Speaker 3>in the schedule more what the guy then okay, okay,

583
00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:48.559
<v Speaker 3>you can take so then you know the easy to

584
00:49:48.800 --> 00:49:53.039
<v Speaker 3>you know had mot instantly know what share this.

585
00:49:53.719 --> 00:49:58.039
<v Speaker 2>M hm okay. So with Bono, yes, she was a

586
00:49:58.159 --> 00:50:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Bonano all that time during the bus uh during when

587
00:50:03.840 --> 00:50:07.519
<v Speaker 2>they had to move the the area to the next match,

588
00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:13.360
<v Speaker 2>she was always with her and she did moon salt

589
00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:20.039
<v Speaker 2>guilletine drop over and over again. And the respect was

590
00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:25.880
<v Speaker 2>to take the take all the style that they kick

591
00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:29.360
<v Speaker 2>each other, they put out each other, and that was

592
00:50:29.480 --> 00:50:33.880
<v Speaker 2>like a respect not to to take it in with

593
00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:39.239
<v Speaker 2>their body physically and just to win over Bonakano.

594
00:50:39.519 --> 00:50:40.239
<v Speaker 3>That was like a.

595
00:50:41.840 --> 00:50:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Most respectful way to tell her thank you, like appreciate,

596
00:50:46.719 --> 00:50:50.559
<v Speaker 2>appreciation and with the respect. So that's what it meant.

597
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:54.239
<v Speaker 2>So she was really trying to win the match just

598
00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:56.320
<v Speaker 2>to show her respect to Boncano.

599
00:50:57.360 --> 00:50:59.599
<v Speaker 1>See I see, and that's a it was a very

600
00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:02.400
<v Speaker 1>good match, which I will say. But moving on from that,

601
00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:05.320
<v Speaker 1>so I do want to ask about your time in

602
00:51:05.519 --> 00:51:07.400
<v Speaker 1>w w F a little bit. It seemed like you

603
00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:09.960
<v Speaker 1>had just a couple of matches there but you still

604
00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:12.440
<v Speaker 1>performed very well. The tag team match you were in

605
00:51:12.519 --> 00:51:14.800
<v Speaker 1>with Lundre Blaze, it felt like the spotlight really was

606
00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:17.800
<v Speaker 1>on you and it showed your abilities very well. But

607
00:51:17.960 --> 00:51:19.480
<v Speaker 1>I do want to ask you about how was your

608
00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:22.519
<v Speaker 1>experience coming over to w w F versus working in

609
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<v Speaker 1>a j W.

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<v Speaker 2>W W suppose buddy my so no kicking kicking kicking h.

611
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<v Speaker 3>Im not saying no, not that guy is there? Tony

612
00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:11.559
<v Speaker 3>and me your knee, we said, go can master see

613
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<v Speaker 3>and know.

614
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<v Speaker 5>Just what.

615
00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:25.960
<v Speaker 3>This? What that made you that? And does things?

616
00:52:26.440 --> 00:52:26.480
<v Speaker 2>No?

617
00:52:26.840 --> 00:52:33.159
<v Speaker 3>There made you gip it down this neck? That's Tuki

618
00:52:33.519 --> 00:52:38.039
<v Speaker 3>with the debutsuki and know it's joking. And my my guy,

619
00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:43.320
<v Speaker 3>I know we know personal and sty Toka and kip

620
00:52:43.360 --> 00:52:49.559
<v Speaker 3>it you know them and then stand there maybe look

621
00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:55.920
<v Speaker 3>and made you not not the schedule and let's go.

622
00:52:56.440 --> 00:53:04.559
<v Speaker 3>I know, I know that's not I don't know others

623
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:19.079
<v Speaker 3>Adam the high like this.

624
00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:30.079
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Medusa, it's high.

625
00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:35.480
<v Speaker 4>Hoo this.

626
00:53:43.079 --> 00:53:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay?

627
00:53:43.559 --> 00:53:48.639
<v Speaker 3>So Alandro Blaze was her name is Medusa?

628
00:53:48.880 --> 00:53:49.000
<v Speaker 5>Right?

629
00:53:50.719 --> 00:53:57.039
<v Speaker 2>So actually when Medusa was out, she was like Kyoko

630
00:53:57.320 --> 00:54:01.960
<v Speaker 2>was like a newcomer. So she was she was like

631
00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:10.000
<v Speaker 2>attendant for Medusa in the beginning so when she had

632
00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:13.239
<v Speaker 2>a song out in Japan, she had a song Medusa

633
00:54:13.239 --> 00:54:16.800
<v Speaker 2>had a song out in Japanese, and they had to

634
00:54:17.159 --> 00:54:20.280
<v Speaker 2>put the costume. She used to zip up her zipper

635
00:54:20.599 --> 00:54:23.280
<v Speaker 2>in the back. She used to give her the microphone

636
00:54:23.719 --> 00:54:26.239
<v Speaker 2>get ready for her and stuff like that for the

637
00:54:26.320 --> 00:54:29.800
<v Speaker 2>song and stuff. And they used to call her adamo Chan.

638
00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:34.360
<v Speaker 2>That was Koko's nickname. Medusa used to call her that

639
00:54:34.679 --> 00:54:37.960
<v Speaker 2>because that was the character that she used to imitate.

640
00:54:38.199 --> 00:54:42.360
<v Speaker 2>So they start calling her adamo Chan. But the most

641
00:54:42.400 --> 00:54:48.400
<v Speaker 2>thing when WWF was the stage was so big that

642
00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:52.679
<v Speaker 2>she was she always was thinking about how can the

643
00:54:53.199 --> 00:54:55.960
<v Speaker 2>top floor all the way in the back the audience

644
00:54:56.480 --> 00:55:01.519
<v Speaker 2>could see her since it's a huge stadium that she

645
00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:03.760
<v Speaker 2>had to wrestle all the time. So that was the

646
00:55:03.880 --> 00:55:07.679
<v Speaker 2>only thing she always thought about, like about the audience

647
00:55:07.719 --> 00:55:09.639
<v Speaker 2>and the fans if they could see her.

648
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So what about some culture shocks coming to the US.

649
00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:18.239
<v Speaker 1>Did you see your experience anything that felt different than

650
00:55:18.280 --> 00:55:20.519
<v Speaker 1>what you were expecting or anything like that, just in

651
00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:22.880
<v Speaker 1>the US in general, not just performing.

652
00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:56.639
<v Speaker 3>American I know, Sam, I know, I know, I know,

653
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<v Speaker 3>and trying to be Christmas Okay.

654
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<v Speaker 2>So the she was kind of shocked because they had

655
00:56:24.920 --> 00:56:29.079
<v Speaker 2>doctor checked before the matches. The doctors make sure they

656
00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:32.800
<v Speaker 2>good to go with the match. That was different from Japan.

657
00:56:33.880 --> 00:56:36.639
<v Speaker 2>And they also said pro wrestler is a star, so

658
00:56:36.760 --> 00:56:39.760
<v Speaker 2>they cannot wear no sweats. They have to look nice

659
00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:43.800
<v Speaker 2>when they're entering even though they're entering the venue. They

660
00:56:43.880 --> 00:56:47.079
<v Speaker 2>wanted everybody to look nice to come in, not the

661
00:56:47.239 --> 00:56:47.880
<v Speaker 2>sweats and.

662
00:56:48.559 --> 00:56:49.119
<v Speaker 3>Stuff like that.

663
00:56:49.880 --> 00:56:52.599
<v Speaker 2>And the most thing that she was shocked was like

664
00:56:53.559 --> 00:56:57.159
<v Speaker 2>they had a catering like a buffet, and she really

665
00:56:57.239 --> 00:56:59.519
<v Speaker 2>wanted to eat a lot of the different things, but

666
00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:03.519
<v Speaker 2>she already had, you know, she was having a match

667
00:57:03.639 --> 00:57:07.760
<v Speaker 2>that day. But she did eat eat some because because

668
00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:11.000
<v Speaker 2>that was like really different from Japan, they didn't have

669
00:57:11.400 --> 00:57:14.760
<v Speaker 2>all the catering and all the food that was ready

670
00:57:14.840 --> 00:57:15.719
<v Speaker 2>for the wrestlers.

671
00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:20.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's an interesting thing to look at when you're

672
00:57:20.800 --> 00:57:23.079
<v Speaker 1>going between different countries and seeing how they treat you.

673
00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:27.079
<v Speaker 1>But uh, all right, so coming down to the end here,

674
00:57:27.239 --> 00:57:30.599
<v Speaker 1>but so what do you hope your legacy on wrestling will.

675
00:57:30.480 --> 00:57:35.320
<v Speaker 2>Be kokos and dishing juve?

676
00:57:35.599 --> 00:57:35.760
<v Speaker 1>You know?

677
00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:36.599
<v Speaker 3>Do you?

678
00:57:47.920 --> 00:57:47.960
<v Speaker 2>No?

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00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:04.480
<v Speaker 3>There s not so not there that they have because

680
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<v Speaker 3>you send you so locause you like hiday me don

681
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<v Speaker 3>this get up and the more high text them the

682
00:58:13.880 --> 00:58:19.760
<v Speaker 3>gig and to you no no there and know its

683
00:58:19.800 --> 00:58:23.159
<v Speaker 3>like you know on the name thanka, don't gonna eat

684
00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:31.760
<v Speaker 3>them more. You know, I don't get up Nka that's

685
00:58:31.840 --> 00:58:36.519
<v Speaker 3>a night. So this called mik epping omal.

686
00:58:36.320 --> 00:58:42.199
<v Speaker 6>The cart you see the car don'ts together but tosing

687
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<v Speaker 6>me now image day this your no no there thnka

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<v Speaker 6>se s I men.

689
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<v Speaker 3>I saw you linka sos in there. It's the more

690
00:58:55.159 --> 00:59:03.360
<v Speaker 3>you ma and you look they musket about.

691
00:59:12.599 --> 00:59:18.599
<v Speaker 2>Okay. So as a as a pro wrestler. Back in

692
00:59:18.679 --> 00:59:21.599
<v Speaker 2>the days when you had to be a wrestler, there

693
00:59:21.719 --> 00:59:25.000
<v Speaker 2>was certain rule that you had to be one hundred

694
00:59:25.000 --> 00:59:31.639
<v Speaker 2>and sixty centimeters that's about five foot three or something

695
00:59:31.760 --> 00:59:35.599
<v Speaker 2>like that. But with the sixty kilograms that's about one

696
00:59:35.719 --> 00:59:38.360
<v Speaker 2>hundred and thirty pounds or something. You have to have

697
00:59:38.559 --> 00:59:41.639
<v Speaker 2>more than that. And that was like a minimum they

698
00:59:41.679 --> 00:59:44.000
<v Speaker 2>got they had to have. This was a rule that

699
00:59:44.119 --> 00:59:49.360
<v Speaker 2>you have to have that physic physical But she always

700
00:59:49.760 --> 00:59:53.719
<v Speaker 2>wanted to be the image as a pro wrestler. If

701
00:59:53.840 --> 01:00:00.880
<v Speaker 2>somebody's watching her, she will order more rice, She'll order

702
01:00:01.039 --> 01:00:06.239
<v Speaker 2>another dish, just to show that wrestler's image is big

703
01:00:06.440 --> 01:00:12.519
<v Speaker 2>and super it's extra, it's different, like they want. She

704
01:00:12.639 --> 01:00:15.639
<v Speaker 2>always wanted to show her that she's a professional like that.

705
01:00:16.360 --> 01:00:20.199
<v Speaker 2>And the image is like, even though it's raining, she

706
01:00:20.280 --> 01:00:23.239
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't put the umbrella up. She'll walk in the rain

707
01:00:23.400 --> 01:00:26.920
<v Speaker 2>without the umbrella. It's just an image. But she's fifty

708
01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:30.320
<v Speaker 2>six year olds now and she always want people to

709
01:00:30.480 --> 01:00:35.519
<v Speaker 2>see her as a pro wrestler, is strong and it's

710
01:00:35.679 --> 01:00:36.199
<v Speaker 2>like a hero.

711
01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:41.360
<v Speaker 3>That's what she wants portray as a kilcoy.

712
01:00:42.360 --> 01:00:43.079
<v Speaker 1>I see, I see.

713
01:00:43.159 --> 01:00:43.559
<v Speaker 4>I like that.

714
01:00:43.760 --> 01:00:47.159
<v Speaker 1>You always want to be that side of you, that

715
01:00:47.239 --> 01:00:50.280
<v Speaker 1>wrestling persona that you have created. But all right, so

716
01:00:50.360 --> 01:00:52.320
<v Speaker 1>we are getting towards the end here, So I do

717
01:00:52.440 --> 01:00:54.360
<v Speaker 1>want to ask you, ma'am, as we always ask at

718
01:00:54.360 --> 01:00:56.480
<v Speaker 1>the end of Wrestle Magic, do you have any kind

719
01:00:56.519 --> 01:00:59.880
<v Speaker 1>of recommendation for the audience? Could be a movie, TV show, restaurant,

720
01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:03.639
<v Speaker 1>video games, poems, Catherine's dog greats, doesn't really matter. It

721
01:01:03.679 --> 01:01:04.360
<v Speaker 1>just something that you like.

722
01:01:04.480 --> 01:01:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Now it's a psyg I know you must singer, must

723
01:01:16.039 --> 01:01:24.559
<v Speaker 2>she must when you come to Japan, please come to

724
01:01:24.679 --> 01:01:35.199
<v Speaker 2>my bar a kayu past And she's selling the face mask.

725
01:01:35.280 --> 01:01:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Like earlier, I told you, it's like you could become Kyoko.

726
01:01:39.840 --> 01:01:43.320
<v Speaker 2>Maybe Marick, you could take a picture of that, maybe

727
01:01:43.360 --> 01:01:46.920
<v Speaker 2>put it up on the website or something anything. But

728
01:01:47.079 --> 01:01:49.599
<v Speaker 2>she sells that, so you could be Kyoko you know where.

729
01:01:49.639 --> 01:01:52.559
<v Speaker 2>Also everybody could be Kyoko you know where? And her

730
01:01:52.840 --> 01:01:55.559
<v Speaker 2>I think it's posted on her Instagram also, And this

731
01:01:55.760 --> 01:02:00.639
<v Speaker 2>bar is in Musashi Koyama. It's in Tokyo. The closest

732
01:02:00.679 --> 01:02:04.039
<v Speaker 2>station is Musashi Koyama. You get out the exit, you

733
01:02:04.199 --> 01:02:06.800
<v Speaker 2>keep walking to the big main street and you see

734
01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:10.880
<v Speaker 2>her big face on the on the building. You you

735
01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:11.679
<v Speaker 2>cannot miss it.

736
01:02:12.719 --> 01:02:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's that's pretty awesome that you've got your own

737
01:02:15.840 --> 01:02:19.519
<v Speaker 1>mural on the building and everything. But so if fans

738
01:02:19.559 --> 01:02:21.880
<v Speaker 1>wanted to reach out to you, how would they do?

739
01:02:22.079 --> 01:02:41.320
<v Speaker 2>So? And jojok okay, So she does the ex the

740
01:02:41.440 --> 01:02:46.599
<v Speaker 2>twitter at the Onama on Twitter handle. Excellent.

741
01:02:47.639 --> 01:02:48.039
<v Speaker 3>I thought that.

742
01:02:52.679 --> 01:02:56.800
<v Speaker 2>She'll send you the the ex handle. She can't. She

743
01:02:56.920 --> 01:02:59.840
<v Speaker 2>don't have it in hand. She don't really remember right

744
01:03:00.119 --> 01:03:03.800
<v Speaker 2>in hand right now. But she do also have an Instagram,

745
01:03:03.880 --> 01:03:07.440
<v Speaker 2>but X she do keep putting up the new things.

746
01:03:07.559 --> 01:03:11.400
<v Speaker 1>So okay, no problem, I'll go ahead and I'll tag

747
01:03:11.440 --> 01:03:14.800
<v Speaker 1>it once this is posted and everything. Uh so Keino

748
01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:16.840
<v Speaker 1>do you have a recommendation for this week as well.

749
01:03:18.760 --> 01:03:20.760
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I forget about that.

750
01:03:21.360 --> 01:03:22.519
<v Speaker 2>Okay, do you know that?

751
01:03:22.719 --> 01:03:25.519
<v Speaker 3>Did I say that the wrestling movie.

752
01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:29.360
<v Speaker 1>That's the ring I think you did before?

753
01:03:29.440 --> 01:03:29.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

754
01:03:29.800 --> 01:03:33.119
<v Speaker 2>Okay, oh gosh, I don't. Okay, So i'll you know

755
01:03:33.199 --> 01:03:36.000
<v Speaker 2>what I'm gonna recommend she since she came out with

756
01:03:36.079 --> 01:03:40.679
<v Speaker 2>the restaurant, I'm gonna recommend a restaurant. There's another restaurant

757
01:03:40.920 --> 01:03:44.800
<v Speaker 2>around Koko's. If you go to Kioko's Bar, there's another

758
01:03:44.880 --> 01:03:49.960
<v Speaker 2>restaurant who another wrestler is running and her name is

759
01:03:50.719 --> 01:03:57.400
<v Speaker 2>Kyle Rukage and restaurant name is mesh Quite. So just

760
01:03:57.800 --> 01:04:02.440
<v Speaker 2>just you could google Meshi Kuite and there's a a

761
01:04:02.599 --> 01:04:07.920
<v Speaker 2>really fresh everything meat fish if you come to Japan Tokyo,

762
01:04:08.880 --> 01:04:11.119
<v Speaker 2>I recommend going there, and then you could go to

763
01:04:11.199 --> 01:04:12.239
<v Speaker 2>Kilko's Bar after that.

764
01:04:15.159 --> 01:04:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Sounds amazing, But uh, all right, so my recommendation for

765
01:04:18.559 --> 01:04:20.800
<v Speaker 1>this week, I'm gonna say an old video game that

766
01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:22.320
<v Speaker 1>I haven't played in a while but I'm thinking about

767
01:04:22.360 --> 01:04:25.840
<v Speaker 1>getting back into. It's called Braid. It it's kind of

768
01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:29.039
<v Speaker 1>like a Super Mario, has a very dark story behind it.

769
01:04:29.199 --> 01:04:32.320
<v Speaker 1>But enough about that. So you guys know how I

770
01:04:32.400 --> 01:04:34.920
<v Speaker 1>usually end the show do something nice for somebody you

771
01:04:35.119 --> 01:04:38.199
<v Speaker 1>never know who needs it out there. And miss Kilko

772
01:04:38.320 --> 01:04:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I thank you very much for being on the show.

773
01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:45.320
<v Speaker 1>It it's been an honor to have you and with

774
01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:46.480
<v Speaker 1>that we're out.

775
01:04:48.840 --> 01:04:52.519
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776
01:04:52.559 --> 01:04:56.440
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777
01:04:56.480 --> 01:05:00.800
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01:05:00.960 --> 01:05:03.800
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01:05:03.920 --> 01:05:06.840
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