Speaker 1: Incredible. No, I hunger for plasma. I took it through
my hands. I could feel it coarsely through his skins,
right into my fingers. I must get trying to rid
myself of this horrible need for plasma.
Speaker 2: I feel a hunger, I hunger. I need more plasma. Oh,
in my country, we eat plasmallo.
Speaker 3: In my country, we eat I've actually we've never gone
the full thirty seconds, but I needed it to get
the links going.
Speaker 4: But fills me with plasma.
Speaker 3: When I watched that video, well, yeah, and you know
we're talking and spout. I feel like, I don't know
if we've had that between just you and me when
we're actually talking.
Speaker 5: About Spider Man.
Speaker 3: No more bs or talk about Spider Man and we
are the Plasma voice and and I'm PROMPTU bonus weekly
geeked this week because the next Geek well, you guys
had a psyde Quest coming to episode on Monday, where
I think it's n Kirkland covering games Calm, but there's
an episode down's.
Speaker 5: Been cooking at least i'd say for the last two
weeks here.
Speaker 3: But Kirkland he miss the Alien review and now he
was still sick after this, so We pushed that, so
we got And there's other stuff, our top tens that
I've been promising the past three weeks.
Speaker 5: We pushed that. But all this stuff will come in
due time.
Speaker 3: We will be doing it. But I am the podcaster.
Trust Now I'm joined by I.
Speaker 4: Not only am a plasma boy, and I'm also a
pew boy.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the Pew Boys. Finally, I feel like it's
They say it's been a while, but I guess not
thunderbolts that happened, But it feels like it's been forever.
Like we were talking about you, me and him see
each other since Friday. That felt like forever. So Thunderbolt
seems like a lifetime ago, you know it does. Yeah,
But yeah, we're talking Florence Pew, We're talking what we've
been watching.
Speaker 5: We're talking some Spidy rumors.
Speaker 3: We're talking some Lego Batman, We're talking some Avengers rumors
with Strange in Doctor Doom. So some meati topics, small
meatia topic, but topics nonetheless. Uh and yeah, And then
I have because there's a little less I have a
fun little thing to bring up, like a fun little game.
I had this plan for me and Taylor on Tuesday,
but then we gott brated with news, so I was like, okay,
and because it's kind of imprompt I had this in
the back pocket. But wait till after what we've been watching.
Yeah you guys did Uh, here's you in kirkle on
side Quest? Right because I'm listened to I don't listened
to any podcast.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, so the side Quest, you know, it's it's
kind of.
Speaker 3: A right, it's all over the place.
Speaker 4: We had it on Monday, you know, so I'm not
gonna throw no one on the bus. But someone couldn't
make it, so we moved it tonight. That person couldn't
make it, so no, it's yeah, I need everyone for
this one. So I kicked it another week. So no
side Quest this week, but you'll get two episodes next
week and they're gonna be justly one fun special event
type thing, which is kind of my side quest, like
ten year fun event thing. And I tried to do
it in July and just schedules weren't lining up, so
it's happy now. And then also juicy newscast like Games Calm.
There's another Nintendo direct their news games sort of the
Sea Mean Kurkling book playing, so to big episodes of
side Quest but nothing this week.
Speaker 3: Sorry about that, and stuffs still getting stuffs still getting
revealed throughout the week. Like, I guess it's not the
I guess Jeff didn't think it was the biggest. But
like today when they just drawed that, oh they're making
a Halloween game, like, oh, that's that to me, it's
a big hype.
Speaker 4: I think there's a big thing for Hollow Night too
that they like tea. Yeah, it's still to come. So
it's it's the week of games came. It's kind of
a summer game fest where it's just an ambiguous like
week or two of time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's good. Yeah, you'll get the wrap on that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, the same thing with us we said before
when we're doing our top ten bio games and TV shows,
those were supposed to be done before GVDA, but that
just happens because summer is just super busy and yeah,
right now, it's.
Speaker 4: Been ever flowing. Man, this last two months is crazy.
Obviously it's like because Spidy's filming and stuff, but man,
it has been insane the amount of specifically Marvel also
DC because it's hot off the heels of two big
movies coming out. But yeah, like it's it's crazy how
much the schedules had to shift around because just impromptu
newscasts are coming out of our ears right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was a pro I almost unimproped to.
I think it was just the reason of because you
got Marvel and DC stuff going on, but then you
also have both like said Spiermn, but also Avengers is
filming too right now, and then Superman because it did well.
It was like, okay, we're going to green light green
light and that's a.
Speaker 5: Cheap plug like even Peacemakers out this week.
Speaker 3: And that's the other thing too, is because James Gunns
been doing a lot of press and that that's what
happens now with these movies now that you have someone
like gun and then Foggy. So before I always to
be like that with Marvel when a movie is coming out,
he'd be get interviewed and we've always got these nice tidbits.
But now because guns like a public figure, we.
Speaker 4: Got those tippits yeah on Twitter, so he didn't have
to wait for an event. He just his phone and
then boom you have news.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, just like today. I think it was
just on like his Blue Sky I didn't put in
the news. Bach're like, yeah, my plan for the Superman
sagas four films. It's like, oh, okay, cool, you don't have.
Speaker 4: To reveal that's like a huge top that's a topic.
Speaker 5: But you don't have to reveal that on your X.
So you're your Blue Sky, but go ahead.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so lots of lots of news coming up,
and yeah, Peacemaker starts tomorrow. Alien Is we've been doing that.
H Dexter has been going after nine. Uh, Dylan, are
you this Saturday? We're watching a movie that has talked
about a lot during GVDA War the World's twenty twenty five.
I've I've purposely still avoided trailers. I've only seen the
thumbnail on my Google TV of ice Cube looking like
he's in the computer. That's really all I know of
the movie, and just people saying that they wanted a
geek first review, and it's kind of that we will
reviewed him anyway. But we're gonna do a movie night,
so you're ready Saturday to uh watch some some ice
Cube doing whatever he's doing on a computer.
Speaker 4: You know, I still have not seen an actual clip
of it, but like I've heard enough through the grapevine
and I think I know what's going on there, but
I got to see it for myself. So I'm waiting.
These these are gonna be virgin eyes placed on that movie.
Speaker 5: On that Well, there you go, ladies, Jim and so yeah,
we'll start.
Speaker 3: I know there's one thing we wanted to talk about,
but I was gonna wait till wait, till we do
our end of both what we've both been done or
what we've been watching. So if we want to talk
Annie spoilers, we can tell people to skip ahead or
mute for like a minute or two.
Speaker 5: Because I've been sure House spoiler you were gonna be,
but me it might be.
Speaker 4: More than two minutes. I got I got questions for you, man.
I'm I'm excited to lob them at.
Speaker 5: You, questions that need answer.
Speaker 3: And can let me see if I can quickly pull
us up before we get in this because I just
want to throw this up here? Can I okay? It
is so now, this this is my little game I
have for you right now because I saw this.
Speaker 5: This is just like a meme going around. It'saw on
the Facebook, sold for the podcast.
Speaker 4: Nice.
Speaker 3: What we do here make the best movie you can
with one thousand dollars. So I'm gonna tell this for
the audio listeners. So you at thousand dollars, you get
directors Martin Scorsese five hundred, Nolan five hundred, Dnivenneuve four hundred,
Zack Sninder three hundred. They just did him dirty, lead
actor Brad Pittt five hundred, Ryan Gosson four hundred, Timley
shalli At two hundred, one hundred for Chris Pratt, and
then lead actress Mario Robbie for five hundred, four hundred
for Scar Joe, two hundred for Sidney Sweeney, and one
hundred for Rachel Rachel Ziegler Zeldler.
Speaker 4: I haven't seen her in a movie yet, so she's
but she is the cheapest one, so I might go
in here.
Speaker 3: She's the same as Chris Pratt, who has led multiple
franchise somehow, you know.
Speaker 4: I mean when I look at the directors, so I'm
not a big squor s asy guy. So if I'm
spending five hund oh, I'm going for Nolan here. So
it's like, okay, do I do I go I'll save
that forbid. It's either Nolan or Denis, so either I'm
spending four or five hundred, so I'll factor that in there.
Speaker 5: That's supposed to say sew Me's a steal at two.
Speaker 4: Hundred, he is a steal at two hundred, isn't he?
Speaker 3: I think Sweeney is also steal?
Speaker 4: Do I have to pick one from each category? Or can?
Speaker 3: I know you don't have to do I don't think
so No's just a director though, yeah you got it,
Yeah you well.
Speaker 4: Not necessarily. I guess it's like I could pick random
director with a bunch of crazy cast I would say.
Speaker 3: He do a director, But I don't think you have
to have a male or female. I didn't take you
that way.
Speaker 4: You know, thousand dollars is not a lot of money. No,
When I'm really breaking it down here, Okay, I am
going to pick up Nolan because Nolan just makes you
know him alone. I'll spend a thousand on him and
I'll be happy. So I'll grab Nolan for five hundred,
So that gives me five dollars to play with actors.
So I think that kind of eliminates the four hundred,
five hundred dollars people. Yeah, so I think I'm gonna
go for that. S bubs Challow may steal at two hundred. Yeah,
I'll pick up Sweeney as well. Man, imagine those two's
starring in a Nolan movie. Like that's a deal. Yeah,
that sounds crazy. And then you know what, I'm sorry,
Maybe Rachel's maybe she's better. But I know Chris Pratt
because I've seen him and stuff, and you know what,
I think him with Nolan, give him a more serious role.
I think he could pull it off. So that might
be who I got to pick because with my with
my extra hundred bucks, So I think i'd go a
Nolan directed movie of Challamagne, Sweeney and Chris Pratt in
a supporting or maybe a cameo type role, maybe like
a maybe like a Matt Damon in Interstellar kind of
energy for him.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, oh, like a mister Man or doctor Man character.
Speaker 3: That'd be good. Someone a bit more on the slime.
Speaker 4: He's like's not you know, made in there, but like
he steals a couple of scenes and like, oh damn,
Chris Pratt was actually great in that movie.
Speaker 5: Honestly, mine was the exact same.
Speaker 3: I thought about going rit with Rachel because like she's
a bit more I'd say, if like a serious actor
but yeah, to me, when I saw us as like
Swedeney and schild Mayer Steals at two hundred, I would
have changed some of these varieties if if to be
any different than because I'm always picking Nolan, if I
would just pick Nolan one actor, so just to be different,
I'll say I do Margot and Nolan.
Speaker 5: I don't know what they would do. I don't know
how the styles would go.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it would be like part of
her Lucky Chat productions or what it might be.
Speaker 5: But that's why I go if I had to go
the one.
Speaker 3: I maybe it's just because like it's I know you're
not a big fan of it. I saw Brad Pitt
do ad Astra. I think I kind of know what
I would get from Nolan and Brad Pitt working together.
I don't know what I would get with Margot and
Brad Pitt or Margo and Nolan together. I feel like
that's something untapped that I like, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Because we talked about that obviously we did the retro
and like Nolan's movies are generally very focused around like
a male lead, and like, yes, most of the supporting
cast is meant so I can't Yeah, I definitely want
to see that someday of a more leading female performance
for his movies. And then I was also look at
this obviously there's probably a lot of connections between these,
but Denie and Gostling there, they had that combo back
and blade Runner they did. Yeah, if you paired up
that again with a Sweeney around with that one thousand, yeah,
that's pretty good.
Speaker 3: That's that's yeah, whether even whether it's Sweeney or shall May,
but yeah, I think those are both both a steel
whoever made this meme there? So, uh, you know what.
Speaker 4: About Dennie and Scarjo, I don't know what do you
think about that?
Speaker 3: That's what s Bobs was pitching here. He said he'd
go Denise Scargo AND's Schallo Maya. Scargo's tough because I
know she can be a great actress. I think it's
just some of the stuff she's picked as of late
is very you know, Jurassic World, and I don't think
she's bad as Black Widow, but like, I just think
that kind of puts you in a box where.
Speaker 4: Like even a very subtle role recently, No, she hasn't.
I'm just not seeing them. But at least in terms
of like the fishes that you think about her on
a yearly basis.
Speaker 3: I guess, you know, I think we have the gifts
somewhere around here. Maybe I'm discounting her, but where is
it here? Like you saw Marriage Story right with her
and the Driver. Yeah, she was great in that, so
I think I think you can get there with her.
Speaker 4: That's a movie with dialogue and Denise as we well know,
he hates true words. So I did.
Speaker 3: Well. Then then if you're going for a words director,
then you gotta go with the Marty route, and then
it has to be Marty that and then to me
in that situation, then I put I put Scarrow, Joe
and shall May because him and Shallomy did that commercial together, right,
so they're in a working relationship.
Speaker 5: There's just something I don't know why. There's something about Sweeney.
Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna say, there's some about Sweeney and
Scorsese that doesn't seem like a fit to me. But
at the same time, he did make Margo a star, right,
and she kind of has some that young energy.
Speaker 4: So what's like the most chaotic you could do? Like
obviously Snyder, it's Snyder for sure, Snyder with like who's
an actor that would be weird in the Snyder type movie.
I mean, I feel like Sweeney could play like, what's
that movie we reviewed again with baby Doll. It is
the character's name.
Speaker 3: Oh God, Sucker Punch.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like she could have played that lead role,
you know, if she was ten years I think older
at the time.
Speaker 5: I think the Yeah, I think the chaos.
Speaker 3: Pick to me is you got Zach at three hundred,
then you go Gossling, they gets you seven hundred, and
then Sweeney and Chris Pratt.
Speaker 5: That's a combination.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's something dirty. That's like Netflix shells out their
biggest budget.
Speaker 3: Yes, and that's like we get some article of like,
oh they didn't get along on set, like like something
like Chris Pratt and Gossling just butt heads or something
to that extent. You know.
Speaker 5: So that's the SYS.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it make the best movie, but
I could make the ultimate for me would be Snyder,
Pitt and Sweeney. I think Sweeny or I think Pick
could actually be fine with Snyder. I think there's some
of his like broisms that he could he could do there.
Speaker 4: So I could go the third Cliff Booth movie.
Speaker 3: Oh Man Tarantino yeah, it's just super slow mo.
Speaker 4: So yeah, Zack Snyder, Cliff Booth. Imagine the action sequences
he's getting there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all the stuntwork and everything like that. Yeah, no,
that'd be good.
Speaker 4: So almost shot of him taking out his wife on
the boat, you'd get that backstor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would. It'd be a fifteen minute sequence for
just a thirty second revelation. But uh, yeah, so whether
it's a yeah, because I think the next time we're
all together on a newscast is a couple of weeks
when we do Golden Giese D twenty three. So I'll
pull it up for well here at kirk on tap
to say, and I'll keep my eyes open because the
other one because these I think this format is becoming
very popular with memes, because the other thing I've been
seeing is a lot of Room one, two and three,
and it's it's always a a picture of male or
female celebrities and you're supposed to pick you've seen those, right,
I'm guys saying have you seen that going around?
Speaker 4: I don't know if I've seen that exact format, but like, yeah,
I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 3: Agel time there, so you know, but you said on
in our discord that you know people aren't in, but
you said that you got a a grift the what
you've been watching?
Speaker 5: So is it your first time you've been on here?
Speaker 3: Talk what you've been watching since we've been at the
nineteen ninety four of or Text Me So.
Speaker 4: And I've been talking about all year how I'm super
behind on my twenty twenty five stuff. So I've been
plugging some of those out. And I have a nice
theme here. All of these movies are involved characters dying
in really obscure, oh weird, or maybe even gruesome ways.
I'm gonna start with Together. Me and Nivey went and
saw Together in Theaters, which is for anyone forgets, that's
the Alison Brie Dave Franco movie where the trailers are
really weird of them kind of like morphing together over time.
I'm guessing you haven't seen this one yet. You probably
did hit stream.
Speaker 3: Oh you did this week? Yeah?
Speaker 5: This week?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I did. I snuck away at one point when
everyone was kind of passed out. Oh no, no, I know,
not pass I stuck away. There's one day where they
went to a cabin Verne with Emily's friends and I
was after work just chilling alone line no podcast.
Speaker 4: You snuck out to the theater for this one. I
thought this would be like a home watch, maybe a
couple months down the road one for you.
Speaker 3: I think, just because I had nobody at home, I
was like, what should I do?
Speaker 5: And I looked at the.
Speaker 4: List of movies I want, I need to imagine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I looked at.
Speaker 5: The list of movies I wanted to see, and that
was the one that.
Speaker 4: Was honestly everything else that's kind of hitting the streets
right now, right, yeah.
Speaker 3: Kind of or the other STU have been catching up
on streaming. So yeah, no, I did see that one
as well. Yeah, it was interesting.
Speaker 4: I had a great time with it. Like it's a
very uh at times pretty serious and you know, pretty
nasty movie. If you're not just saw on like weird
body horror stuff, definitely do not see this one. But man,
some of those I kind of want to open up
spoilers for this is that crazy? Open up spoilers for
like a couple of moments of this one.
Speaker 3: I say, you could do a couple of most have
You're not seen together skip ahead or mute for about
two minutes.
Speaker 4: We're also yeah, and bring her back. We're also gonna
do light spoilers, so just be.
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe we'll just do a double feature that right now.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, man, This the freaking scene when it's like
the middle of the night and they start like sliding together,
drifting in the hallway and they're like being pulled along
the ground and then she Alison Beer like you know,
scrambles to grab the pills out of the drawer. They
get them out and then they both yell like snort them.
It'll be quicker, and they're smashing it and snorting all
these drugs. That's probably the biggest laugh I've got from
a movie this year. And I haven't seen Nake a Gun.
I'm sure they'll give me some bigger laughs. But my god,
me and Nibbi and everyone else in the theater. There
was not a lot of people in the theater, but
everyone who was there except for like two old ladies
in front of us. They were not vibing, wasn't there,
but everyone around us just like irrupted and laughter. That
moment was so fucking hilarious and over the top and goofy.
And there was a few moments like that but that
was definitely the peak funny moment for me. But there
was definitely a few, like even like the very last
line when the parents stow up at the house and
they're like finally morphed together and like the weird like
amalgam voice that they had, or they're like hang or
like whatever, the weird voices just died laughing. So I
feel like the movie was obviously going for humor in
some of these moments, even though for the most part
it felt like it was trying to be serious. But
I had a lot of fun with it, even if
it was very cheesy and like kind of melodramatic at times.
But once again, I kind of feel like that was
mostly intentional, But I had a really fun time with it,
even if it's yeah, maybe not one i'd vouch for
best film of the Year at Golden Geeks time or yeah.
Speaker 5: No, I mean interest to see what the other guys said.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I enjoyed it. It just I said this on
the Weekly Gey with Taylor, So sorry if you listen
to that, I'm repeating. I juste like my con with
it was a con that I have with a lot
of movies this year is that I just want a
little bit more, you know, I felt like the third
that kind of rushes to conclusion and then we're kind
of there. And I also said, I I cause I
told it was on GVA day. I unfortunately got spoiled
on the whole amalgamation thing. I saw a screenshot kind.
Speaker 4: Of showed it in the like they show the last
shot in the trailers of like their eyes connecting and stuff.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, but I know we're gonna get the the combo,
like the you know, the yeah, you.
Speaker 4: Know, especially after you see the monst rossy in like
the cave. You don't know, yeah, how it's gonna work out.
Speaker 5: So I just wasn't sure would that kill them? Would
that do something else?
Speaker 3: But then I kind of know, Okay, it's gonna it's
gonna not work out completely fine, but be something different.
But yeah, very fun concept and uh obviously great chemistry
between the two. They're married, so it makes sense. But
still it doesn't always translate.
Speaker 4: So you know, the other line that absolutely killed me
is like there at one point, he's like sitting her down.
He's like, Okay, this is what I think happening, and
she's you know, not really buying it because it's a
pretty crazy scheme. And she's like he's talking about, like
what about what our legs were stuck together? And she's like,
what do you mean? I thought it was mildew? And
he was like, so what do I know fucking anything
about mildew? That line also killed me. It's just so random.
With the Dave Franco delivery of it was it was great.
So yeah, I had a good time with it. I
like saw that their producers on it, so they're pretty
involved in it, so I think it was. It was
a good time.
Speaker 3: They're going into a lawsuit right now because there's somebody
that's claiming that they they stole the idea from but
Franko's like, no, we got years of receipts to show
that we didn't. So yeah, I know. I guess they're
going to court for some guys like.
Speaker 4: Is it like an old school movie or is it
like a newer one?
Speaker 5: That's no, I think it's somebody like I wrote a
script and then one day he's.
Speaker 3: Sitting around that I don't know full so I don't
know if this is another writer or just somebody that's
kind of Joe Smroll off the side and everything. Oh
that was my idea. So I think you have to
prove that, because I've definitely had that moment where I
have an idea and then you see something. But I'm
never like, oh, they must uh hacked my computer and
stole I feel like sometimes there aremultiple ideas that you
just happened to. But obviously if there's a paper trail,
you meet with a guy and then because I can't remember, oh,
there was one really big movie. Oh like the movie
I love, like The Holdovers.
Speaker 5: You think you've seen that before?
Speaker 3: Really, yeah, that's one of those that like a person
was like, had a meeting, pitched a very similar movie,
and then that company makes a very similar movie. You're like,
oh that kind of that sucks, but I still love
that movie. So yeah, and you never know, right, but
yeah for.
Speaker 4: Sure, Yeah, okay bring her back time. Yes, So I
think you shared your thoughts on discord. Have you shared
your thoughts on the movie?
Speaker 3: And yeah, just on the Tuesday, because I what I
did was I did a bunch of I still have
a couple of things to shut up that I watched
this week since the Tuesday, But I was like, you
were I've been trying to catch up on a lot
of this year's movie, not even the fact for Golden Geech,
just stuff that I was interested in and didn't have
time because we're deep in the ninety four stuff.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I watched.
Speaker 3: That was I think the first thing I watched out
of the Maybe there's something else, but it was one
or two for the things.
Speaker 5: In this year that I caught up on.
Speaker 3: So you love it, your I love that's like, yeah,
top ten of this decade.
Speaker 5: I'd say. I can't.
Speaker 3: I can't say of all time or anything, but horror wise,
I I thought was fantastic. Not a perfect movie.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't give it like a ten out of.
Speaker 3: Ten, but uh, I had some gnarly stuff in there.
All I've said this before the fruit scene that got me.
I would have never thought that got me, but I
was not seen that coming. And then our poor characters
turns around.
Speaker 5: That's what's going on.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, let me let me toss some third
act So once again spoilers for this section if people
are still tuning in. So, at some point, and what's
the name of the main actress again like the old
Sally Hawkins Sally Yeah. So at one point she says
something about like I killed your dad, and then it
almost is played off as like something that was like
in the character's head. Then obviously she is doing weird
stuff with like the body and whatnot, but like, is
there something I'm missing there, like did she do something
to kill the dad?
Speaker 3: I honestly did not hear that line, so I I
don't have those answers for you. It's like I could
believe that.
Speaker 4: I'm trying remember exact the moment. I think it's when
it's just her and the son in the car driving
somewhere and they're having a compassion and she's like, I
killed you know, I killed your dad or something like that,
and then he's like, wait what and then he almost
like it's as if he could have been like dreaming
and heard it or he like mishurt. It was a
quick thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, see that's I must have been like
get taking a drink or looking at some computer files something.
But that to me would completely track with what the
character is, especially because before that scene there's lots of
weird stuff with her and the dad, that whole funeral
thing of oh, we honor the dad, like I could believe,
especially because I don't think they you know, they just
find the dad. This this is really non spots because
happens for a some timeut they just find him dead
in the shower, right, So it's like kind of it
could just be regular, but it's also seems like it
could be under mysterious circumstances, so I could believe that.
I guess she just maybe thought the uh, this person
was a good vessel. So obviously to get said vessel,
you got to take out the father to get there,
you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was just one of those is that like,
if that is the case, I feel like we needed
more of an explanation about like some backstory going on there.
And then I guess another question generally is like, so
obviously everything seems it seems like all like the tapes
that she's watching, it seems like all that stuff occurs
at that same house, like at that same residence. I
don't know if that's actually the case, but like I'm like,
why what's up with like the white summoning circle type
thing like around the property. That's what made me assume
that all this stuff was like some ritual that they
kind of created in this area, and like once you
leave the circle, obviously the kid was like tweak it out, y, Yeah,
leave that circle.
Speaker 5: I thought that's what it was.
Speaker 3: I thought it was just like a massive circle to
cover all the bases, right that that person.
Speaker 4: You could put out anywhere in theory, like it didn't
I think.
Speaker 3: So. I don't think it was the same property because
I think that could be very hard to pull off,
and I feel like then someone else would own that
in the cannon, like a very creepy figure that like
rents it out. But I think those tapes were just
kind of from anywhere, and that big circle is just
too all, Like I think because she's dealing with the
in the videos, it's always just kind of in one
area because like, oh it's an adult whatever, you can
hold them down or they're doing like the ritual right
there where this is like she's kind of living with
this kid for a while. So I feel like it's
to cover the base of all I need a massive
circle because you know, kids are crazy, runaway, et cetera.
You know.
Speaker 4: So, did she just like find the tapes and watch
them all and then like learn about the ritual again?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think so, yeah, down, I think she probably.
I guess there could always be a relation, but could.
I took it as like there could be some sort
of rabbit hole theory because I mentioned to this to
you before i'd even seen it, that they had created
a website that was like an in world website that
you could go to, and it's the same one she's
looking at. So I take it as like she somehow,
you know, daughter passed away and she just falls down
the black web, dark web, rabbit hole and finds this
website that has this stuff. So which is you know,
it could be a stretch because I think you can't
just pick up voodoo easily, you know, But I guess
if you're enough.
Speaker 4: You could, Yeah, okay. And then I guess these last
things aren't really questions more so just comments, as like
I felt like Sally Hawkins spilled the beans a bit
too quickly to like the counselor lady when she was
at the house. That kind of bothered me a little bit.
And then also like I know, I guess the whole
movie is kind of building to that moment, but to me,
when she like backed out of doing the ritual, it
just didn't fit for me. It just feel like, after
all she's gone through to back out, and I get
it maybe she's built up a bit of a connection
with this character, but like it never seemed like any
of that was genuine, that she like actually loved or
cared about this girl, that she was taking care of her,
and it was all like this game to get her
to this point where the ritual can happen. So to me,
that felt like maybe I just wanted a dark ending
or something, even though I was, you know, rooting for
the girl. Of course, I was like, when she's not Pool,
she's done for But then then Sally's just like, eh,
you know what, actually, nah, I guess I don't want
to do this. So obviously, you know, she was having
a lot of going on there, and I think she
was damage and probably the bleed note and stuff. But yeah,
just some of the choices with her character I felt
like fell flat a little bit in that. Once we
got to the house sequence with the counselor, I.
Speaker 5: Think, okay, no, that kind of worked for me because
I thought that was.
Speaker 3: A way of showing that this whole time she's trying
to get back something she lost, but she could have
built something new in this world. When the character calls
her mom and I think it's a good kind of
the whole movie. I know Clay was like, I'm not
watching this as an allegory for grief, and it very
much is. But that's what I did enjoy that as
far as if you let the grief kind of just
bubble up and it controls you, you're gonna miss all
this other stuff. No. Granted, this is a heightened sense
with this character is doing a bunch of bad stuff,
dark magic, but in the real world, it's just kind
of like, Okay, if you're so focused on one thing,
you could you know it's not the bridge you want
to go down, but there is another bridge over there
that you know might get you to the endpoint.
Speaker 5: It might be a harder road, obviously, but that did
work for me.
Speaker 3: Even though I think what you said with the counselor,
I think there's some things about the third act that
is pretty rush like again, that's almost my thing with together.
There's a lot of things this year I feel like
third acts. I'm not sure if it's budgetary or I'm
not sure if it's like they were trying to make
short movies on purpose or they just feel like I
know this many studios do, is that short movies do
better in theaters. It just feel like this year there's
a lot of third acts for me that are not
missing the huge story jumps. It's just.
Speaker 5: And that's where to your point that maybe they could have.
Speaker 3: Progressed that a little further with that character at the
end of like buying that, but it just you know,
she says that thing and then it's over, but haunting
kind of ending there with the police finding the pool
with what's going on there.
Speaker 5: But yeah, that did work for me.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's also Sally Hawkins too, maybe I thought because
I thought her and I thought the Possessed kid did
a phenomenal job that kid, and that kid is just
like and I looked, he's been like two other things
nothing like this, Like they're like just like regular kind
of movies. Like I could not believe this kid at
that age was doing some of that acting stuff. I'll
be shotting him and Sally out and Golden geeese because
that was some really good stuff there.
Speaker 4: So yeah, Sally, for me, it was like an immediate
best villain contender going in the mix there. So yeah, overall,
I did really enjoy it. I get maybe it was
just because there was multiple things in the third act
that I was kind of throwing me off a little bit,
and so maybe that's why the ending didn't quite didn't
quite land. But overall, really really great movie. Just uh yeah,
I'll try and find that clip or maybe i'll you know,
try and find where in the movie it is when.
Speaker 5: You I'll probably rewatch it though, because I.
Speaker 4: Like potentially a lot about the story, so it's absolutely
good to know about that. Yeah, okay. And then two
other movies. One is The Monkey I finally saw the Money.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, which you know that.
Speaker 4: It's just it's dumb fun. It's like that, the kills
are are very creative and like the CGI for the
most parts, like pretty good the story. I forget the
name of that main actor. I think he was in
like White Lotus recently, James Right, he's the one. I
thought he was super fun, like he was just a
really great protagonist to follow along in this journey, kind
of like a bumbling fool, extreme like the word the
least luck person you've ever seen in your entire life,
of course, which is like this whole movie is kind
of about that. But some really messed up scene, some
really great CGI of course and effects and all that.
It was fun to see She Hulk you know, Tatiana
as long as she's like yeah.
Speaker 3: Which was she's the lead of his next movie too,
oh sweet?
Speaker 4: Yeah, because her. Yeah, I still think I've only seen
her in She Hulks, so it's kind of fun to
build that that up a bit more.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I really enjoyed that. But then the one I
enjoyed a little bit even more than that was a
Final Destination Bloodlines. So, as I've vented before many times
over the years, I'm a big Final Destination fan. I
haven't seen all the movies, but like two and three
and stuff back and they were like, you know, big
favorites for me as like a teenager. And I think
this new one is is fun. It's as you know,
cheesy and stupid and silly and over the top as
the other ones are. But I think it's just like
the thing that Final Destination does that it's so fun,
just like introducing you to a scene. It's set up
to you at this point that like these characters are
all bound to die and you just get in this movie.
It's like one of the scenes is just like a
backyard and you're looking around and there's like, you know
this drink's like a little bit too close to the edge,
and like there's a rake under the trampoline, and like
there's a lawnmar over there, and there's like this buttons
and hoses and like there's all these things, and it
kind of just showly, slowly shows these things, whether there
are kind of foreshadowing it or if it's like in
the background, and then your mind you're just like, oh,
how is this all gonna play out? And then eventually,
like you know, the domino gets knocked over, and then
all these things connected some crazy Rube Goldberg of how
these crazy kills happen, And it's just it's a series
that's so good of that, and you know sometimes they
just do like a quick one two punch kind of killed.
But I've seen the trailer. There's like that scene and
like the tattoo shop and all these things are always
so great and fun and there's some really great moments
in here. So yeah, is it is it an amazing
movie with a great plot? No, but it's super fun.
I think the ending is really great without saying what
it is, So yeah, I had a good time with it.
There there's like a flashback sequence at the start of
the movie where the CGI is like really really walking.
It's all looking great, but you know it's the classic,
like oh make it looked like the fifties or whatever,
so you know, it gets the job done, I guess.
But yeah, I had really fun that. I think this
one is like felt like it had a lot higher
budget than the other movies in the series, and maybe
five had a big budget. I haven't seen that one
or anything, but uh yeah, as a fan of this
series who hasn't watched in a long time, this was
another good one to throw in the mix.
Speaker 5: Nice there go some good ketchups.
Speaker 3: Then for the for the year so far, so huge.
Speaker 4: Golden Geek contenders of course, final destination.
Speaker 3: Bring her back for me, It's gonna be bring her back.
I will be fighting for I don't know. It's been
top five, right, but in many categories and.
Speaker 4: Some visual stuff there's some five at the moment.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is in my top five at the moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but even some visual stuff there's some and some
score they that that blew me.
Speaker 4: Visuals, no doubt, Yeah, yeah, shots super makes it.
Speaker 3: I'm a bit late, but I'm deaf going. Zack Snayer
is directing Wonka two staring Shay.
Speaker 5: Zegler and most of the songs going to Zegler. That
leaves me four.
Speaker 4: Four just pocketing four hundred bucks not better.
Speaker 3: You could if four hundred who would be the better?
That's Gossing or Scott.
Speaker 4: Could really fit well in a Wonkagree.
Speaker 3: It has to be Gossling who is in the Wonka two? There?
But yes, I think, what have I seen since Tuesday?
I've been watching me and I might man catch up
on bad reality show. So watched The Ultimatum and then
we're on Love Is Blind the UK season two. Some
of those are always just fun put on stuff.
Speaker 4: Speaking of reality quickly, I don't know if you saw
that there is a I've never watched Australian Survivor before,
but right now they have Australian Survivor versus the World.
So they have a tribe of Australian players, and then
they have a tribe featuring Poverty, Tony and Surree and
then like other people from other like global survivor shows
like this currently it started this week and.
Speaker 3: So Poverty is on this one, but she's not coming
back for Survivor fifty or whatever.
Speaker 4: You are correct, and SII is coming back for both.
So she we're gonna haver again next year. She's playing Survivory.
Now Tony's back playing Survivor, so I've started that, and
that's Tony Tony. Is he Tony?
Speaker 3: Well yeah, he was my guy Tony, but he's on
that Australia versus the World.
Speaker 4: One he is, Yeah, what the hell?
Speaker 3: And he but he's not back for fifty.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, he's not back for fifty. But he's
back Survivor.
Speaker 3: But that's that to me?
Speaker 4: Is there crazy? Russell was on Australian Survivor, Sandra was
on Australian. Yeah, but this is the first time where
I think more than one has been on a single season,
Like I think is Sandra and Russell were on their own,
but the season is set up as like Australian players
versus the world because there's like also a girl from
like Survivor Quebec, which is the thing, a Survivor, Finland
Survivor New Zealand who are on this tribe with the
American people.
Speaker 3: So Russell did a third season Survivor and I didn't
even know about this at all because.
Speaker 4: He's well, he already did three regular seasons.
Speaker 5: Oh right, Yeah, you're right, yeah, because he's I forgot.
Speaker 4: The fourth season now, yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, how did did he get out right away?
Speaker 4: Like I have seen that season?
Speaker 3: Oh I don't.
Speaker 4: I know he didn't win, and I assume he went
on early because everyone kind of he's not a very
friendly guy, right.
Speaker 3: He didn't change his style too. That was just that
was that. That was That's where Tony for me always
eclipsed them because Tony was smart or he went in
there and then the second time he got bopped, and
then the third time was like okay, I got.
Speaker 4: A Tony was like the evolution of Yes Russell type
he was. It's literally just on YouTube if you want
to check it out. And I'm a three episodes because
they released three episodes this week and it's it's really
fun so far. So I'm like I'm going to deep.
I don't know any of the other people other than
three Americans, but.
Speaker 3: Those people you were hitting on, I was like, Oh,
they're probably I'll come back to for fifty because they're
you know, getting a little older, wearing charity that they
want to do this.
Speaker 5: But now I hear they're in Australa.
Speaker 3: It's like these are names that would have got me
in because I felt with the fifty the problems I
did fall off on Survivor, and fifty has a lot
of the generation of people when I fell off, so
from the new yes, and I didn't have that same
pool where to me, I wish it was kind of
like a like a fifteen to fifteen like some sort
of dividing of here's from the first decade.
Speaker 4: I think the reason for like a poverty here. I
mean one, they probably just gave them like a huge paycheck,
just I bet so, Yes. But then also it's a
weird season, like it's fourteen players and sixteen days, Like
it's literally a sixteen day game, so it's super short.
So I think for all of them it's like, yeah, sure,
I'll probably won't even get hungry, you know, like yeah,
they don't even have feel like starve or like be
worried at any point, So I think it'll be I
think it's a lax kind of experience for them, and
maybe they can win. And I don't know how much
you get for winning Australian Survivor, but hey, if ser
can finally got to win on Australian Survivor, why.
Speaker 3: Not Yeah, yeah, well, there you go, so that might
be on the dock for a little bit. So, yeah,
I've been watching those. I watched Dangerous Animals. I can't
remember if you were on a weekly Geek when this
was in the trail rotation. It was that Jy Courtney's
Shark movie where he's a killer and he like gets
people on okay, he like gets people onto his boat
and how he kills them, he like puts them like
he ties them up and he puts them overboard, just
watches sharks eat them like that's and he's like.
Speaker 4: Filming the movie, is what you're talking about?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're gonna fight and everything.
Speaker 3: So I watched that. That was a really good time.
It was like a solid like seven at ten. It
was just a fun like kind of serial kill thing
ja Jai forty. Yeah it was. Yeah.
Speaker 5: It's not gonna be a golden pizzer, no.
Speaker 3: No, no, Like, if you really want to see something
of Ji Courtney, then sure it's He's really fun in it.
But I don't think it was so good that I
have to recommend to a bunch of people. But there's
some good moments in there. It's an interesting take as
far as the whole like sharp business and abducting surfers
and stuff. So it's a good time if you ever
watch or come across it and are in the mood.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say, oh, don't watch it.
Speaker 3: I think it's still worth the watch, but I don't
think it's any It's not gonna be like anywhere near
great poster.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's some good visuals in there too, so it
was just funny.
Speaker 3: Because I watched The Surfer last weeks, I'm getting all
these like Australian you know, some water villain movies. I'm
about thirty minutes into Death of a Unicorn, which is
all right so far.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's all right so far. My favorite person actually.
Speaker 3: It is oh gosh, what's his name? Who was Adam
Warlock in Guardians? What's his real name? He's in Banner Snatch.
Speaker 5: We'll Polter, Will Polter.
Speaker 3: He's really fun and he plays just kind of like
an idiot loof character, a character that would probably been
like a white LOADU season, like that type of vibe.
He's very fun. So yeah, so for the it's all right.
I'm waiting to see where it goes. But it's not.
It hasn't been like Man, this is great so far,
but we'll see. I'll report back in the future and
then I can report to that.
Speaker 5: This was just on Tuesday.
Speaker 3: I said I was going into season two, but this
the last two days I finished season two. Man, not
to spoil it, because who knows when this cast is
gonna happen, but I will tease that O'll probably at
least be talked about or considered interview with the vampire.
Speaker 5: This fucking show, man. I love the show.
Speaker 3: It not the same visually, but the same vibes. Wise,
reminds me a lot of Hannibal, especially because it's about
the two male leads. I kind of like Cad and
Mouse sort of game. But man, this show is like
because I put it on after because I we watched
for nineteen niney four, and then the night after or
while I was watching it, I went down Wikipedia because
I was reading all this stuff, and I found out,
like they've read, they've they've a Rice wrote thirteen books,
and I've not read these books at all. But I
knew there was another movie called Queen of the Damned.
I've seen it a long time ago. But it's like
connected where it's like a sequel, but like Tom Cruise
doesn't come back to play less stat Like it's one
of those where it's just like the characters are adapted.
Speaker 5: Again, so it's like, oh, what's the deal with all
that stuff? Right?
Speaker 3: Because again, what I've said about the movie is I
enjoy the movies for the vibes. I think the movie
is very messy, but I like kind of the world
and the idea and the actors. But the show is
fantastic because there's just so much more time given to it.
Like the seasons are eight seven episodes and eight episodes,
so you get fifteen hours dedicate dedicated to like what
that movie was, which was like two hours. So it's
just so much more fleshed out. And I talked to
this last episode. But Sam Reid, the guy plays the
stat I'm obsessed with this man.
Speaker 5: I need to see him do everything. But no, I was.
I was so determined last night.
Speaker 3: I didn't need to stay up, but I was up
at me and I had to finish the finale because
I was there and I knew some things.
Speaker 5: But luckily there's like the last half an hour of
things that are one they adapt things.
Speaker 3: Of the book which I've never read, and two there's
kind of I talked to Chris Evans, who's a listening
to the show. He said, it's kind of like some
of it's fan ficky, like there's lots of stuff that's
not in the books, is like an adaptation. So for me,
it was great though, because last half an hour is
not like the movie, so I didn't know what was
coming and it was like I was floored. I was
up at midnight ball in my eyes out it was incredible.
It was so good, Like I'm trying to convince Emily,
but even if she doesn't, I think I'm gonna like
rewatch the show in the next month. It just had
me because yeah, the first few episodes I thought were good.
Actually the pilot's really good, and then after I was like, okay,
it was good, but then I just got I got
hooked and everything. It's it's all so much better. But yeah,
I absolutely love that. So if anyone's not watched it,
the third season's coming up, and I can't wait because
I'm I'm in like Dexter Breaking Bad Hannibal mode where
I'm like watching behind the scenes stuff I'm looking at
all because they did com Kong last year and this
year and I didn't even watch the show, so I'm
just like I'm taking as much as i can.
Speaker 5: There's no date for the third season yet.
Speaker 3: It's just a classic twenty twenty six but I'm throwffing,
I'm I'm ready.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I was. I was surprised by how much
I liked it because I was like, I'm just curious.
I like the concept, so what's the show version.
Speaker 3: But even when this show was announced, it's like, I
don't know if that needs a show, Like I don't know,
like I was like the Harry Pottery, like I don't
know if this is like I guess it can work,
but like I think I did, like who's watching? But
i'd heard good things and now I believe the hype
and I hope it's not like Cannibal where it's a
a third season and then I'm crushed again. But luckily
that show, the third season got bernewed before the second
season was already over, and it's on AMC, so.
Speaker 5: If like AMC, they got like massive hit.
Speaker 3: So I feel like anything that's like got someone on
a fan base or just like look at Walking Dead, right,
they have like five spinoff shows. They're just like, yeah, sure,
and they because there's I haven't read the other stuff,
but I think it's part of this chain of books
that Anne Rice wrote. It's like immortals and Monsters or something.
So they already have two other shows in the universe,
one about witches and one about something else.
Speaker 5: I'm like, okay if they're all in because the cast.
Speaker 4: Like crossovers between people, there hasn't.
Speaker 3: Been yet, as I know, I don't think so, but
like maybe it comes down the line, but I.
Speaker 5: Think as of right now, there hasn't.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's bold because like I've done The Deep
Dive and they say they want to do like six
to seven seasons of the show, but uh, I'll take
them all. I'm I hope that Sam Reid pops up
in something that we watched down the line, because this guy, man,
he's he's a just a cram to cram like the
Town the Layers you have to do because he gets
to play Like what I said to Tay is he
does do the sea like the century that cruised it
with a stat but he kind of like brings it
down to an actual character. It does just feel like
someone's just at five hundred all the time, and and
it's one of those things too that season two I
want to watch these one because of quality, but season
two revealed things where I'm like, man, I need to
rewatch season one because it puts X Y and Z
in a.
Speaker 5: Whole different perspective.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I loved it, So I highly recommend people, especially
in October, if anyone's in vampire mood or whatnot.
Speaker 5: It is like they're all like our episodes. It's not
like a quick watch.
Speaker 3: But uh, yeah I binged it just because I was.
Speaker 5: I was hooked.
Speaker 4: So yeah, next for recording our top ten shows, is
this guy knocking on the door? Do you need more
time today?
Speaker 3: It's not I thought that. I don't like putting it
in there, but I think just with the rye and high,
it's it's it's knocking at.
Speaker 4: The door season three. There it'll pick something out.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, maybe it will, but I think it's I
think it's etched to stone in there. You know, I
think it's favoriteless. It's not best. So it's it's just
stuff that like it's uh, anytime that I'm binging a
show just quickly like that that, I know it's got
it hooked.
Speaker 5: It's hooks in me, So.
Speaker 4: Is that streaming somewhere easy? Are you watching it on
a DVD Crave?
Speaker 3: That's where I was watched it. Yeah, and then I
watched the second season on Amazon Prime and then I
guess it's coming to Netflix. So it's one of those
things where it's like they're all over the place, but
uh yeah it was. It was right there looking at me.
So yeah, well you know it's looking at me.
Speaker 5: Is this news?
Speaker 3: We're gonna take an ad break and then we'll be
right back out, said news. So we were back and
we're back, so we kind of got a double. Well
we do got a double today in a sense. So
I'm trying to think of how the best way to
relate is. So we got one. I got a for
sure news. Okay, I got an S tier casting. I
got a B tier, but it's definitely to me slid
gonna happen, which is the Florence Pugh. And then I
got a bunch of rumors to do with brand New
Day and that kind of happened from even when me
and Tayo, like we said, newsmen porn out, so to
start with this to B tier. But again, this is
the guy that said that Pedro is playing, uh read so,
and we cover his news a lot.
Speaker 5: So he did put out today that Florence Pugh is
going to be in Brand New Day.
Speaker 3: No idea what the role is, the size of the role,
but Florence Pugh is going to be in there, and
that was reported by the trays Day that I let
me get his name there.
Speaker 5: It's what the hell is his name? I know?
Speaker 3: Its last name is Tilman, Tremuel Tilman. Yeah, so you
know him right because he's in set. Did you end
up finishing season two severance?
Speaker 4: No, but he's in season one so.
Speaker 3: Okay, good good? So did you just walk away from
season two seference? Then?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got four episodes in and dipped. I might
come back, but yeah, I don't have Apple TV anymore,
so it's one of those things where I don't. I
kind of just forgot about it and people keep telling
me to finish it, so maybe someday.
Speaker 3: Okay, And then I do have a bunch of just
kind of random rumors to concern with not only this
Spider Man movie, but I'm going forward. But what were
your two thoughts about Tilman? He's playing supposed to be
a villain. The the word is it's not the main villain,
but we don't know. Does that mean it's like.
Speaker 4: A there's vilains everywhere in this week?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Like, is that like a Tombstone Ramrod where he
plays a side film that just gets beat or is
he a you know, a Norman Osborne or somewhere It's like, oh,
they're a villain, but they're more like a setup. We
don't know. I I there's not really any There's a
bunch of theories out there, but yeah, what are you
thinking of that?
Speaker 4: Okay, so you have to remind me what what are
the possible characters he could be playing?
Speaker 3: So we had Tarantula, we had Ramrod. There's been Tombstone
talks out there, and I think that that I can
try to quickly look actually in my documents here from
the last couple of newscasts, but those were some of
the ones.
Speaker 4: Ramrod A Ramrod. I'm looking at some images online.
Speaker 3: Yeah, half cyborg, half man, which I, oh, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I feel like his severnth performance a little robotic at
times in like a good way. Now I could see
him be in a half cyborg. I could see them.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, is that like because all I've heard because
you didn't see Mission Possible. He's in the latest Mission Possible.
He kind of has like a scene stealing. I'd say
he's in there for like twenty minutes. He's really good
in that, and I still want to Sea Servance at
some point. But I've heard nothing about good things about
this guy. There was rumors back in February when Marvel
was looking to recast King that apparently he was on
the short list. Oh okay, yeah, so but my thing
is that where it's like if he's one of these
like Transha Ramrod guys, It's like, from what I've heard
about these this actor, it feels like he does not
fit the guy that gets beat in the montage or
he's like the side villain, right like that That's my
only hold up of like either one he's not that
or two I would question his agent because I just
feel like like he's got it's I think he's got
a lot of heat on him, you know.
Speaker 4: I guess. I just I don't know if like what
I especially when I google Ramrod, Like, I don't think
that is what we're gonna see on screen in this movie, right,
Like I think it would be a different version. I
don't know if he would be like naked with like
a little bit of a cyborg breast like upper breastplate
kind of thing. Like what's what's the guy's actual name?
Let me see if I can find that information.
Speaker 3: The other one was.
Speaker 4: Parent doesn't have a canon name, but I think they
would give.
Speaker 3: For Ramrod to The other one was Boomerang. That was
the other one the list. It was Ramrod, Tombstone, trans Boomerang,
and all the Scorpion, but Scorpion obviously he has been
cast al right now, so those other four are up
in the air.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, I I yeah, I mean Spider
is not the kind of hero to kill off villains,
so I don't think many of these people are dying anyway,
so maybe they could come back again in the future.
But I could see him playing this kind of guy.
But like I said, I think it would be not
as comic bookie, you know, he would be you know,
maybe a bit more serious, played off in a way. Yeah,
so I could see him being that. Well, that's the
first one that comes to mind. But like, as well
as I know Spider Man, these are some kind of
obscure villains, right, So I don't even know a lot
of these guys super well. Looking at Boomerang, you know,
I can see him pull that off too. That could
be kind of cool, But like, I don't, Yeah, I
don't know. I don't think he's like a huge enough
star that would warrant him being like the main villain
of a thing necessarily. Obviously, Severance is pretty big.
Speaker 3: I guess I'm the main film. But to play like Boomerang,
that's that to me is I think that's an offervious
slide back in my opinion, if you just got some.
Speaker 4: You know, on you.
Speaker 3: I really don't know, maybe some of these because I
think a lot of these are We've heard rumblings that
there's gonna be kind of like a montage of a
lot of these characters getting beat up. So I don't
even think it's gonna be like a sinister six or
five scenario where they all team up. And the only
one that I think that I'm kind of fine with
on this list is Tombstone because I feel like Tombstone
obviously he's.
Speaker 5: A bigger villain. I think he could carry forward.
Speaker 3: I actually think his voice, like Tombstone always has like
a very deep voice, so I think Tillman's voice is
it's not deep, but it's unique where it kind of
works for a Tombstone. I think so because I don't know,
and I don't we talked about on Tuesday. There has
been more scuttle but of like a symbio going in here,
but like to.
Speaker 4: Just pull it straight from friendly neighborhood, Like if we
get that Tombstone but just like you know, twenty years
older in his journey, Mmm, that could be a good fit.
Like that would be interesting. Obviously, Tombstone rather than being
played by like some weird google like he often is
in the series obviously is like a black character in that.
So just putting that one to one connection there, but
that that could be interesting and man like Tombstone in
that shows somewhat a well done job of like evolving
that character from a regular goon who gets absolutely like
the first half of the episode two being like super
dynamic and having a lot of tumb Obviously, I don't
think we'd get into that backstory here, but like that's
where MCU fans can kind of feast on something like this.
We're like, hey, you can imagine almost, like that's what
the backstory would be like pull from Friendly Neighborhood if
you want to fill in the gaps of who Tombstone
could be. But if not, you can still just be
like a fun villain in this thing. But yeah, I
think that's a good pitch. I like Tombstone more than
my Ramrod pick. I'll put Ramrod on the bench again,
and I'll.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I thought you could be right, because
you know, credit to our patrons people in chat.
Speaker 5: I always see what Mike did bring a good point.
John Malcovitch just.
Speaker 3: Got cut from F four, so Marvel's not passwating good
actor and think less role. So you know what, Yeah,
I take that back. He could be Tranch, he could
be ram Rod because John Malkovich is a Academy Ward nominee,
Like he's I'm not gonna say it's like a massive
star name, but like he's one of the bigger ones.
And yeah, they just cut him like nothing.
Speaker 5: So yeah, you're right. You could just could just be
a paycheck and he's in there for a little bit.
Speaker 3: And because yeah, I don't think there's anybody else in
this movie, like, especially now that we got Florence p
this is getting to be a hefty movie. And if
these we don't know exactly. It's just little breadcrumbs. If
the symbio, which is looking like it's in this movie
is in the movie, that's like a whole nother adnum
of stuff that's going on. So that's where it's like,
I don't think. I'm just so curious what they're going
to reel to be who this main villain is because
there is so much. But yeah, that was the other
news we got was Lawrence Pew And that's, uh, that's
very exciting.
Speaker 4: That's so that's you're telling me that's a beer tier
though that's not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a bee tier.
Speaker 5: But I'm pretty I'm very confident that the person that put.
Speaker 4: Out for reading the headline I pulled the Taylor Field
because I saw that in the discord and I was like,
oh damn, I can't believe that's happening. But I guess
it's not percent yet.
Speaker 3: No, No, I'd say it's like a ninety percent. I
think it's I think it's happening. I I you know,
I'm not saying that this guy's gone everything right before,
but I think it is happening. But uh, yeah, what
what would you do with Elena and Spider Man because
you got Houlking there. I got here for.
Speaker 4: A fucking scene with John Bernthall, and I'll just watch
that scene six thousand times on his Disney Plus imagine
those two one, like the characters that they play in MCU,
I think could be really fun together. But also just
like I don't know have they acted in the movie together.
I'm not sure, but like I want to think. I
want to see that, so I I want to It's
tricky man anything we talk about Spider Man. Now, it's like, Okay,
this movie already has a lot going on. Now we're
gonna throw Florence Pew in the mix, So, like, does
that mean that she's kind of relegated to like one
scene or two in the mix, like not really having
you know, a big impact on the plot, which would
be too bad because she's great, But I you know,
I'm greedy. I'll take whatever Pew I can get. Yeah,
And so okay, remind me the timeline would be this
movie's coming out and then we're getting and then we're
getting doomsday later on, So I guess.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Would this be a stepping stone to explain how the thunderbolts,
like because obviously they're all confirmed, they're in the chairs. Uh,
so we know they're in doomsday. Would this be like
a place to explain a stepping stone of that and
remind and again Punisher, is that before Doomsday as well?
Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, I think that might even end up being
before Spider Man. I think it's I think is Sperman.
Speaker 4: Imagine she's also a Punisher and we just got a
little one two run.
Speaker 3: Now you're getting a greedy Now you're getting a greedy Yeah.
Speaker 4: But I think because right now, I don't know, does
it make a whole lot of sense for them to
be in there. I guess they are the Avengers kind
of to if you ask, uh Valentina, But I don't know.
Maybe there's a bit of world building there of explaining
that even though and maybe she's just kind of the
representative obviously because the rest of them. Throw the rest
of them in there. That's crazy, that's too much. You
gott to tone it down, Marvel at some point. But
I'm I I, yeah, I desperately hope this happens. I
think I would love to see it. She would fit
well in the spidy spidy realm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think there's two routes that could go.
I think it's probably gonna be this route where I
feel she could be a bridge to doomsday and she
is a person because what do we hear in the
Thunderbolts post credit right that they are the Avengers and
then Sam's putting together his own team.
Speaker 5: I wonder if.
Speaker 3: There could be kind of the setting stage of her
as there's a race for Thunderbolts and Sam to recruit
spider Man right like they get to him first before Sam.
Speaker 5: Does, and X, Y and Z, So it could be
just as simple as.
Speaker 3: That, which I think works, like out of all the Thunderbolts,
who you're gonna get that makes the most sense. Speer
Man has no connection to anybody, so if you're gonna
get someone, you should get Elaine, who has the most
cloud and people really like and I think it's and
it's been fun to see both of them in interviews.
People have been sharing the clips them both saying like
who do you want to work with the most MSU
and they both had listed each other. So I think
that's kind of fun. And I think like Elaine and
Peter have like that's a fun dynamic. So I hope
what they can do is the two things where it
is that, But what I would like is the way
I've tubbled before. Okay, so Spider Man's alone and he's
gonna be a little bit depressed. Well, that fits with Frank, right,
Frank's always alone, always depressed, and I'm sure Spierman's got
some anger going on. That's where I think the Hulk
thing's gonna tie in, right, Like Frank's an angry guy.
Hulk's gonna be an angry guy again. With the Thunderbolts,
was going through all that too, about being alone, being depressed,
not wondering, like having no one, wondering.
Speaker 5: Whatever purpose was, et cetera.
Speaker 3: Like there is a through line of that character is
going through similar things of Peter, and I'm assuming what
they're gonna do with Punisher and Hulk. So that's why
I hope they kind of somehow do It could also
just be like I said that she shows us to like, hey,
we really like you being the Adventures. Think about what
they did with Nick Fiery and Iron Man two where
he popped up multiple times just to kind of yeah,
pitch tony like things. She could just be that, which again,
I think this movie could have a good possibility of
being that where I don't think Iron Man two is
the worst movie, but the biggest critique that movie is, oh,
it's just a big setup movie. And now it's like
you have three different msue other characters. You have all
these villains supposably, you got Sadie Sink, who might be
Gwen Stacy, might be someone else, we don't know. So
that's where it's like, that is my only work, especially
to have some other roomors here about the Spider Man trilogy.
It's like that that's my only worry about this movie
that it could. I don't want to hear too much
into Hey, we got a lot coming up, so we're
gonna use this movie to spread board. Not saying that
won't be not successful, but I just I still, especially
after No Way Home, would like to see Tom. I
hope we don't lose the core of what it is
and which good thing is No Way Home didn't. That's
one thing to give its credit that had a bunch
of illins, that had Toby and Andrew. By then they
was still a movie to service Tom Holmes Spider Man.
So I hope that's what Pew's in here for. But
she could also just be one action seeing, Hey, you
should really join our Avengers. You can't trust Sam, you
can't trust Da and then boom off the races.
Speaker 4: Well, because we know that Holland is not in Doomsday,
right because of the conflicting scheduling with Odyssey, Right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but because that movie's in December, now, I think
there's wiggle room if they want to get him in there.
They can't, especially like the fact that Ryan Reynolds is
in there. Yeah, there it's see Tier rumors. But there's
see Tier rumors that Sehn Berthnell's in the Secret Wars.
I think that with me and Tara Tom wils where
I think with Thunderbolts, Cap and F four. I think
with the box office they're really worried, so I think
they're loading this stuff up. So I think Tom Hollan
finds his way in to me.
Speaker 4: Let me throw another theory. Then Okay, so Hulk rampaging
around the city destroying shit. He's mind controlled, and they're like,
how do we get him to cal him down? They think,
who is able to do this? Black widow is able
to do this? What if we go grab her sister?
Maybe she can help, Maybe she knows Bruce like maybe
that's the way you pull her into the plot in
some way, and you know, I don't I hope they
don't do Like sound's getting real low, Like I don't
want that line with her because that would just be
a little too on the nose. I mean, sometimes Marvel's
really on the nose obviously in terms of her like
Superhero landing, you know, doing that kind of joke. Sometimes
they do that kind of stuff. But what if that's
the reason that she's in this she gets pulled in
to help with this task, and then that's kind of
their ergo like a connection point for a vendor stuff,
or like if Spidey gets pulled into that, like maybe
because obviously he doesn't know anyone, as you said, but
like maybe he meets her through this opportunity and they
gets pulled in that way. So I don't know, maybe
there's something a little something something there.
Speaker 3: You kind of reminded me. I don't know if they
Pullman because the anger, But I do actually want to
see those two characters interact because I feel like Bruce
would have, you know, some sort of not connection, but
just like if he was close with Italian Natasha, knowing
she has a sister, and maybe even she you know,
they could say off screen that she shared that to him.
She didn't share that to many people, because I know
because obviously Clint knew that they talked about the Hawkeye.
Speaker 5: So maybe Bruce could be another one.
Speaker 3: They're thinking about running away together, right, so you feel
like you might mention you as sister. So I do
hope that happens because I think that's been some of
the issues with the MC recently, where there's a lot
of good connections. And that's why I did like Thunderbolts,
because you got all those characters together and they kind
of bounce off of past interactions or you know, like
all this stuff with Red Guardian and Bucky or John, right,
they refer to, Hey, all these people are linked without
even being linked, right, even if they've never met Red Guardian,
because the super Soldiers see him is linked to Bucky
and linked to John same way the web is, yeah,
and same when the same way as Elena is linked
to Bruce right because of Natasha, Right, And that's where
out of all this and I'm happy he's there. But
that's why just John Berthall is just the funniest.
Speaker 4: Her and Bruce are her punisher if you only get
one seed.
Speaker 3: I think i'd I actually would go with Bruce because
I just worry Bruce, Like I think Hulk needs some
juice where I think punishers always gonna have juice. I
think you just get Frank on screen to be punisher.
With any Marvel character.
Speaker 5: There's gonna be some interesting dynamic.
Speaker 3: I think Bruce needs something for us to like chew
on right, because then she Hulk he was just there
to just to He's like the video game NPC tutorial
guy guy, like that's what he was for. Sheawk right,
and then what else is he have been? He's been
a sung Chi end credit scene and is that Asin's endgame?
Just those two things she haul okay, here's my son
Scar and then sung she I think that's is Oh
my god.
Speaker 4: I feel like he was in for more thing, but
I can't remember what it was.
Speaker 3: I feel like it is too, but I it's not
coming to mind. So but that's where the thing is.
That's how bad that is, right, if it is, there's
nothing that's that we're thinking of. The only reason I
remember sing She is because that was setting up King,
which obviously didn't happened. And then I remember she helped
was we just met on Scar all the time, so
it's like I'm remembering Hulk for great stuff.
Speaker 4: So if there was, there's a lot of Hulk things.
But he was not in Brave New World, right, No,
he was not.
Speaker 5: No, that could have been again, that's another thing.
Speaker 3: That's where I worry though. Right we talked about that
they brought back liv Tyler, No Bruce in sight whatsoever? Right,
they'll have a montage of newscasters being like Bruce Banner's
ex girlfriend, but they didn't tie that together. So the
same way, there is a good possibility Lena could be
in this movie, and they just missed the layup of
Oh yeah, they never interact or have anything to do
with Hulk. Use she doesn't even mention Hulk, and we've
seen that before where I fake sometimes they get too busy.
So I hope that's not the case.
Speaker 4: But you know, it's looking like it, but let's hope not.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And then just some other stuff to throw
out there, out into the webs. Here, where is it here?
Oh my god, my my mousepad is broken.
Speaker 5: So that's great.
Speaker 3: Oh I don't think it actually is.
Speaker 5: It's just not opening it.
Speaker 3: These are some updates. Yeah, these are some updates here,
some other just these are all seatsier rumors, but I.
Speaker 5: Don't think this is anything that's crazy.
Speaker 3: The next trilogy is gonna be Tom Holmes last, Like
I think we all kind of know that. I feel
like six is the the handout to Peter the Villains,
I guess so far Marvel and Sony have had an
idea to try to not plan it out film by film,
but they kind of have like an idea of where
they want to go, and I guess the film the
films have been tossed around for the next kind of
trilogy is The Prowler, Hammerhead, Tombstone, Venom Kingpin. So that's
why my hope of like Tilman being Tombstone will be
great if it's like a setup prow like I had
pitched this to Taylor, where I feel like the trajectory,
I don't know, see how you feel about this.
Speaker 5: My pitch is if the symbiode is in.
Speaker 3: This movie and it's on Scorpion, because the actor keeps
posting Instagram so like he's just I don't think he
can hold his tongue.
Speaker 5: And did you see the discord thing the symbiosis poster controversy.
Speaker 3: Did you see that all last week? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, even the club though they said, all we have
nothing to do with those posts.
Speaker 3: That's not us.
Speaker 5: So like there is like some stuff going on. But
my pitch was that in.
Speaker 4: What world are there just like posters saying that, like
that's so weird.
Speaker 5: I don't know because we just don't know what happened
to the black guy to.
Speaker 4: Know what happened in like the Vendom movie, but I
don't think that would happen in the MCU.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but what happens for some reason if that black
goo in no way home is being used for other
science stuff for I don't know, right, they got left.
Speaker 5: We don't know what happened to it. It just was
in a.
Speaker 4: Bar, come in to do like some you know, get
money to get paid to do this research or something
like that. It could be right, and Scorpion advertise it
as this really sketchy looking thing, like I don't.
Speaker 3: Know that's that's true, the black and white that is
that is sketchy. But I do think they are gonna
get to Venom because I've been pitching this. What I'm
gonna say is Tom Holmes's gonna get the black suit
in the Avengers movies, and that's how you're gonna get
him to fight, told me and Andrew, that's my prediction
right now, is because that's how you can do that
king Pin.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I hope that is true.
Speaker 3: But then and the Prowler one, oh god, oh okay,
the Prowler to me, that just makes the most sense
because one that's Donald Glover, so that's great. And two
I just feel like that's when you start to get
into you can set up Miles right Like, I feel
like that the hearing the Proler. You know, I'm not
calling him spin, I'm not calling him. It's so funny
as talking to we were in the pool and I
was talking to Ellie because the the Scorpion news going on.
I'm like, oh, is there a char name Scorpion and
uh Spidey and friends? And she goes, no, there's no Scorpie,
which is so funny because I'm like, they would call
him that because they call spider Man Spidey, and they
call Goblin Gobby. They never once called him green Goblin.
He is Gobby. So it's funny that she like, just
because the show determined, yeah, he would be called Scorpion.
I'm like, yeah, I guess you're right, Like it's just
funny the mind of a three year old, Like, yeah,
he would they would just call him Scorpie, but due
to the events, so she helped him brave New World.
Bruce is at his wits end and then sing stressed
because his fear of people having easy access to become
the Hulk is a reality fair, which yeah, I guess
it's fair for sure. I guess so, But is that
his battle really to do? Like I guess he created
it a bit, but it's just like, is that like
I don't know, there's a whole world of heroes that
like does he have to.
Speaker 4: Stress that thing? You know, Like that's like his trademark
people are it's like copyright infringement.
Speaker 5: That's why I really worry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is one again that I think was a
note that Toby Andrews's story will conclude after Secret Wars.
It's like, yeah, I don't think I think Sony already
missed the boat there. We could have got more, but
I think that will close that loop.
Speaker 5: Whether they die or not.
Speaker 3: And then back years again of course, can't wait. And
then the last time I had here it was right now. Again,
don't know who the character is, but say he sings
character specifically, this is an ally to Peter, but not
to Spider Man.
Speaker 5: So again that's just give me the war. Hope it's Gwen.
I really hope it's I really hope it's Gwen.
Speaker 3: I hope we're going down that that route right there.
Speaker 4: So bring it on. Yeah, yeah, it.
Speaker 3: Says I feel like the Symbios's poster would just be
like in the background detO or Easter, not something important
to the movie. I agree, but it is still weird,
like when Dylan says in the world right, like why
would it be there?
Speaker 5: But unless that's just them trying to like egg Us on.
Speaker 4: Scene in Far from Home and Mysterios, like in Peter's
head and he's in like that poison like fake world.
I feel like in that see like a picture there
being like weird Symbiosis posters. That's what I could see it,
like a scorpion or or scorpion hits someone like a
poison dart. He's tirping out and he sees a poster.
Speaker 3: Sure, why not scorpy my goodness, Yeah, yeah, no, we'll see.
So No, that's everything I'm very excited though to get
either way, the fact that like maybe I didn't say this,
I feel like it's a given. You know, he brought
Pew Boys, like I think Pew and Anything's like that
enhances movie. But also very excited for her and Tom
Hold have a scene. You though we're booking like, oh,
we'd like birth, No, we'd like Haul. Her and Hall
and alone is. There's gonna be some good stuff there,
so I I can't wait. And hopefully that's it's some
good Team Dynamics for maybe a van or Secret Wars
or whatnot. But speaking of a Team Dynamics and Avengers,
we got some rumors here where, so I'm gonna hit you. Luckily,
this news came out today and you're a doctor Strange guy,
so good thing I can hit you with that. So
I'm gonna hit you with this one first. That apparently
Doom's plot or one of his plots or story whatever,
he's going after people who have caused incursions, and the
list so far would include Monica Rambo, Doctor Strange, Steve Rogers,
Peter Parker, scart Witch, and stay with me Venom because
if you think about it, you know Vanam Noah Homie
went there, So what do you think about that as
far as like, Okay, the world's are collapsing, there's a
bunch of stuff going on, and Doom's idea it almost
sounds like he's gonna go around taking these characters out
to maybe stop these inclusions. I don't know, but what
do you think about that as far as that would be,
you know, kind of like Thanos, where oh my idea
is to save the world.
Speaker 5: We're gonna make it half.
Speaker 3: This kind of gives doctor Duma somewhat good guy point
of view because like, well, I'm just trying to help,
because I'm trying to stop these people that have call
like went back in time they shouldn't have, or went
to a different universe and they shouldn't have. Like how
do you feel about that as a log line for
Doom potentially in a Doomsday Yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Mean it's been interesting to think about like how does
this And obviously I don't have like the comic book
background and just dig through like the past stories, but
thinking about like, okay, how how is this going to
be a two parter for Avengers? Like how does the
Secret Wars part connect with Doomsday? And I guess there
could be something to do with that, where like Doomsday
is you know, part of that isn't him being fullen
villain And maybe Secret Wars is more of that kind
of thing. So interesting idea. Can you toss me that
list one more time?
Speaker 3: So Monica Ramboa, so obviously that happened in even though
I've only watched the Marvels once, I felt like she
didn't post cause it. Yeah, but like remember there's like
an incursion happening and then she does.
Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm gonna go save us as she goes.
Speaker 4: But maybe I'm wrong, Maybe I'm mis fambing that happened.
Speaker 5: Maybe it was her powers.
Speaker 3: Does anyone in the chat remember how the incursion happens
in Marvels. Maybe it was just her powers and we're forgetting,
but she like sacrifices and that's how she ends up
in the X Men world, right, Ah? Yes, yeah, Strange
is always messing with stuff, Like I feel like multiple
times he's done something.
Speaker 5: Well even then too, because remember Kleia, she says like.
Speaker 4: Says the word incursion.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I can't.
Speaker 3: Remember what he did to cause it, but like he
did something Rogers, we know what he did there. He
went back like he said where he wasn't supposed to
write with Peggy.
Speaker 5: That's gonna be the one.
Speaker 3: I think they haven't said that, but I just feel
like that's the You were supposed to drop these stones
off and come back. You weren't supposed to stay there
and enjoy your time. Peter Parker. Obviously that was No
Way Home Veno. That was like No Way Home in Scarlett,
which I'm not sure what that could be. Maybe could
argue to the with their kids, It's true even creating
those kids. You might argue that could have caused them
in Bounce right, which is It's funny because I feel
like I remember when we when we were reviewed back
in the day, meet Tanker, when we reviewed Wanta Vision,
and if you remember Wanta Vision was the same year
No Way Home was coming up. So when she did
all that stuff, I remember all of us like, oh,
that's how Toby Andrew get here. That's the villains, because
clearly it's gonna be this ripple. But then in each
movie those never happened. It was always someone like it
was a new character breaking the multiverse rules or the timeline.
So that's one thing I like in like a like
in a storyline way of like none of this was
actually planned, but if you do it this way, it
kind of makes it look like it was planned, Like, hey,
doctor Doom, saw what's going on, and you guys are
abusing it. My only hang up, though, is where I'm
lost on this working if it's true, is with Thanos.
Speaker 5: His plan was, hey, to make the universe better. We
got a half it.
Speaker 3: But then obviously that's like, well that's a moral, Like
you're killing billions of people, right, I need to know
why what's the villain hook for Doom because to me,
if they go, hey, Steve Rogers, you going in the
past calls an incursion that could kill bunch of people,
you have to die. Now. I can't say Doom's like
wrong in that right, because it's just Steve being very selfish,
not saying he doesn't deserve it, but it's like, if
you're if you're causing this, you kind of have to
you have to go away. So that's why I'm trying
to wait, Like, what is unless there's a way where
the heroes cannot die.
Speaker 4: Also kind of just discussed in Loki right in terms
of having like the what do they call it, the
Golden timeline or whatever it was, and trying to like
snip the other yes passages because like there's only.
Speaker 3: This one, but like a sacred timeline.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sacred timeline. There you go. Like kind of just
comes down to perspective and in terms of what you
think is right. I mean, I guess if there's like
this theory that if they just let it go crazy
that eventually it all crash and everyone will die. We'll
obviously want to avoid that. So it's like, yeah, why
would Steve be allowed to do this with like other
people cannot?
Speaker 3: So I feel like Steve.
Speaker 5: Would sacrifice himself too.
Speaker 3: If you're saying, hey, like everyone, let's say they just
come to say, hey, that universe you came from, everyone's
gonna die if you don't do this.
Speaker 4: He'd be like, I got one more week with her
die happy with that?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Exactly? Unless, like I said, unless, to me, the
only pitches that whether it's strange or somebody has a
pitch where hey, we can fix the incursions without having
to kill people, And Doom's method is like I'm just
gonna kill people. That's how I think. Maybe they'll do
the villain side as the hero say hey, we could
save everybody and stop the incursions where Doom's gonna.
Speaker 5: Say, eh, like, let's not risk that, let's just kill.
Speaker 3: These people and just take them out right away, you know,
which is again some similar vibes to Infinni War and whatnot,
but you know it's I think that's gonna happen.
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, But going back to what you said
there of like all these yeah, rather than it being
one event that seemingly opened the multiverse and got us
into the multiverse saga, You're right, it was super messy,
and that's like, yeah, ultimately, yeah, Fike he's there, he's
the Watcher, he's overseen everything, and he's like putting his
little fingers and stuff. But like, ultimately these movies are
written by different people and directed by different people, and
so everyone is probably just given the directive like oh, yeah,
make a time, you know, bust open the timeline in
some way, and they all kind of go at it
in a different way. But specifically in the case of
Doctor Strangers as makes me curious of like clear having
that line of like, oh, we got to go fix
the mistake, you bit of creating this incursion. So it's
like I always assumed that that was just like a
setup for the next Doctor Strange. But if that was
all the way back then the set like actually a
setup for what was then Kang Dynasty and has now
been like reworked to Doomsday, that is very smart and cool.
And even if it was intended for Doctor Strange and
they're like, you know what, we can actually pivot this
and I can actually like kind of segue into Doomsday,
is also kind of nice and kind of convenient and cool.
So I don't know, it sounds like, yeah, if they
make this all work, sure, I think it will be messy,
no matter what I mean. Obviously, what do we don't
even know what phase wrong. That's how messy things have gotten.
It's like four there you go. But like, oh yeah
thunderbolts ended phase five what like, yeah, I have to
do it with anyone. You know, it's extremely random. But
uh yeah, so it's it's all very messy. But I'm
curious to see how it all comes together. I guess,
like I don't know what F four be in that
realm too, Like I guess they will have by the
time they're in doomsday in theory, if they're in a
six months six they were like I don't know if
I want to spoil that movie, but like there's things
in there that are I don't know if they'd call
as an incursion, like quote unquote, but they're doing crazy
science stuff that could seemingly cause things like that to happen.
Speaker 3: Well, I feel like even what Doom is wanting from
that family would cause an decursion, right, you'd think that
that that's where maybe they kind of equal each other
out where they don't count because he kind of needs
their help to fix X, Y and Z.
Speaker 4: You know, so, even though I feel like a man
Deadpool like events of those movies.
Speaker 3: Dead Wolver should definitely be on But that's the thing
with dead Pool Wolverene. I could see them be on
the list. But this rumor is specifically for Doomsdays. That's
why I could see that being for Secret Wars. You
start to dive into more of those those other ask
you do.
Speaker 4: You think that this plot point is like a section
of the movie where Doom is teaming up with all
these different people tackling these incursions or is it strictly
this like doctor Strange one and that's the one that's
like leading the whole plot of like that section of
the movie.
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be all these ones, because I
could see that. I do think unfortunately, I think it's
gonna have very similar vibes to and Finney War where
it was than I was going all these different places
Age in the Stones, right, I think this is doom
going all these different universes. Like I think with Monica,
I think there's no mistake that she's in the X
Men universe and we're getting up like the Fox X
Men universe. But but we're getting them right.
Speaker 4: But not that guy I always for his name, the
guy who played Beast. He on a chair, right, yeah
he is?
Speaker 3: Well, I think so, yeah, you'll see Grammar Avengers chair.
What a thing to search up.
Speaker 5: Let's see here. Yeah, yes, he was on.
Speaker 4: A he was on a chair, So okay, I was
gonna say that, like is that funky? But no, I
actually could be the perfect segue of how that crew
gets connected with six.
Speaker 3: So like you got them, you got F four and
then you got the MC crew, which all Sam Sucris
Spider Man. Uh again, but also to that list, like
that's the thing where like the two that to me,
all these makes sense. Peter Parker, that's easy he's in there, Monica,
she's the X Men universe, Doctor Strange.
Speaker 5: Steve Rodgers makes sense.
Speaker 3: The two that are the interesting ones for me are
one Venom, because that would to me imply you're gonna
get Tom Hardy, which I don't think is baggage there is.
But at the same time, I think it is kind
of funny if, like, if we're closing the X Men universe,
they have said they're not doing anymore Sony Spider Man
like universe stuff right now, So that kind of could
kind of be a fun way to use Doomsday as
like a way to like, oh, that's why we're not
seeing more of Beaus. And that's what I'm saying, because
like Doom takes that out right. But yeah, and I
don't get me wrong, especially I don't like those movies.
I would if Figers sit me down and be like, hey,
do you think Tom Hardy would add any numbers of
the box office as Venom, I'd say, yeah, he would, right,
like I think people do like him. So yeah, And
then but that so that one's curious as far as
k what happens there. But then that last one Scart,
which to me is curious because as of right now,
she's like dead, right, But I always she'd be dead
and then she'd be resurrected. This would infer that.
Speaker 5: She's maybe already alive and out there somewhere, and Doom's
like looking for her if he's on her on his
hit list.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: So that's where I'm not too sure how that work.
Speaker 3: Is a situation where she's in a bubble somewhere, is
a situation where she's been alive for a while just
in hiding, like that's what was because I know Skirt,
which is going to be in there. It's just that's
why I'm very curious of how they bring her back,
particularly just in the sense of where were left off
with her right and stuff, because I thought she.
Speaker 4: Would have been back before Cope. But I've always felt
like she's alive. She was not killed by those rocks,
and she's been hiding away. Maybe she's like Voldemort where
she got shrunk down to like a baby, like row Witch,
not actually doing that, but like something, you know, that
kind of idea to regain her power.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have to bring in.
Speaker 3: I don't think I have a tweet, but I have
let me bring in because I didn't send you to him,
But it's a question. We got a patron question from
John with no age, but it's going to go right
to what we're talking about here, where can I find it?
But the other part of the story was, okay, yeah,
so this can set up Strange team up with Doom.
Wouldn't make sense if Doom is after the other ones
that cause incursions. Wasn't Strange a major participation in Newing Home?
And that's what I wonder because that was this other
rumor going around that in I don't know it's Doom
Day or Secret Wars about one those, that there's gonna
be kind of some sort of trio team up between Doom,
Clear and Strange, and that might post Strange as the villain.
Now we don't know if this is like a variant
of Strange, right, but I think that could be the
way where even if he's on Doom's hit list, that
I have more uses for doctor Strange in his power set, right,
he might not be worth just killing, where like Peter,
you could just you just kill right, like he's very
powerful one, but like he's not opening up any portals
where Doctor Strange is gonna happen. And obviously the Russo
said this was faking from the last Avengers or the
last movie, but they're in that big concept ore that
happened at the be end of this year. There was
multiple images of Doom and Strange together, So I think
that's gonna happen.
Speaker 4: Whether it's I hope it's not a mind control thing,
but even if you Hope is working with Strange just
because of his power, using it for his power and
somehow convinces him that he needs to help for some reason.
I think that would be really interesting to see, especially
after obviously you know Doom is being played by Downey,
and just thinking about the back and forth that Downy
and Cumberbatch had in Infinity War all that's like I
really liked their scenes together, and so to have them
working with each other still, and like you think he
would question that if you ever see his Doom's face,
But like, I don't know, maybe Doom just has the
mask on the whole time and so he can't can't
actually like see that it's Downy and be like wait,
what's going on here? This is or maybe he used
that to his advantage. Maybe he's like, hey, I have
Tony helped me out with that. As this guy who
sacrificed myself for everyone else, So that could be he
could use that to his advantage. I mean, I feel
like he's got to do something like that, right, If
he's dipping all his universes, he's probably seen that there
is this guy that looks a whole lot like him.
Speaker 3: I really hope, at least with the six one six characters,
that's the route they go, where they show up and
he's friendly and he just seems like he's iron Man,
but then that switch happens and it's like, oh no,
even though there's I don't know, I know people have
had this theory because I don't know if I think
Downy he shared a lot of Comba covers, but I
think he shared one cover which was for a storyline
of Doom controlling bodies. So some people have this theory,
which I don't know if I like, But some people
have this theory that this doctor Doom is an iron
Man variant, but Doom is taken over his body so
he can do that, right, so he can go to
the six one six and be hey, I'm your friend
Tony Stark, and then the future that would leave room
for them to cast another one. Now, Don't get me wrong,
I'm not the biggest fan that RDJ is doom thing,
but it's kind of like what you said with the
mind control or bought, Like I'd rather just be a.
Speaker 5: Bad iron man.
Speaker 3: You killim off and you meet a doom down the line.
I don't know if I need it, Like, I guess
that's a big goal as well. There's a doom behind
everything and he's just using people. But I just I
don't know. I just I'm with you, like you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, initially when it happened, I was not stoked with
the downy castu, but like they already confirmed that, so
now I want them to do it right, you know,
Like I don't want to get like a half assed
version of it. I want it to be good.
Speaker 3: So yeah, Oh, and what I was gonna say, because
you said something so back on the strange thing, I
just want to say because within Finny War, that movie
showed that he was willing to sacrifice himself give the
Times Stone to win in the end, right, So it's
the same way of if he has to team up,
would doom for a little while, which who knows, And
these movies could be like a couple of years right,
But if he has to do that, he will to
me the way I look at it, and I don't
think it's gonna have the same result because I think
Strange will survive this saga and going to the next one.
But I think it would be a very uh Snape
to Valdemort situation where Snape is there, he helps him
commit many bad things, but it's to eventually give Harry
Potter the smoking gun of the tier and then you can.
Speaker 5: Reveal, Okay, x Y and Z, that's how he killed Baldemor.
Speaker 4: I think Strange to him seeing the ten million timelines
and being like, yeah, there's a very specific way this
has to get done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think maybe even the move that's because
that'd be cool. Imagine if Doomsday ends and doctor Strange
turns on our heroes and they don't let us in
the viewer know that he's doing that to help us out,
but we just think, oh, man, Strange has turned evil.
This what's wrong with the you know Steven, what's happened?
But then in you know Secret Wars serials, well, I
just had to do that. So that's why I think
if he's with Doom, I don't think he's a. I
don't see a universe where they just take the doctor Strange.
We know they kill him and he's a villain, and
then that's a then a come batch that would be
strange but also no pun intended, but also one of
my favorite things, and we've talked about before in what
if there's multiple variations where you see Strange does become
a villain, so you can play on that, right, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's gonna like is that too? Have we seen
that too many times? Because we got in what if
we got in multiverse where we saw like that other
yeah too, right, Like we've kind of still in there
done that to some extent, and let's stuff like we
our six one six one and like having him turn
like I get rather do that than another variant of
him being evil.
Speaker 3: That could be. That could be because even though they're
kind of playing on the storyline, I think it's in
the ultimate run where they do a story where Reid
finds out that all the variations of him and the
multiverse are all evil except for him, and he's kind
of like broken by that. So I wonder if they
could because I don't think we're anywhere near that with
read right now, right. I wonder if they could use
that storyline of hey, like Steve and this is kind
of your destiny, like, no matter what happens, you are
gonna end up. You know it's for the greater good,
but you're gonna have to make some sacrifices, and they
could play on that, and then he makes that hero turn.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, I agree with you because multiverse madness.
Speaker 3: But I guarantee you there's still a huge a percentage
people that I've never seen what if? Right, So for them,
they only saw once a multiverse madness. It's not like
a tired concept where and what if he came back
multitude at times as this demon Strange and the Supreme
Strange and all this stuff. And it's been a while, right,
Multiversepanus was what twenty two, So at this point it's
gonna be four years, So there's some there's some space
in between that. So but yeah, we'll see oky.
Speaker 4: What about he's an incursion. He's ripping up incursions.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, But I feel like the tough thing with
him is where he is.
Speaker 5: I just don't know if doom can get to him.
I think I agree, I know, I think it was
last year.
Speaker 3: We talked about this, there was those reports of Loki
might be like a maguffin to the story, and I
could see that because I could see it's like if
if machine, if Doom can get on that chair that
controls all these timelines, Bey, it's game over, right, So
that's why I feel like maybe he's gonna Maybe that's
why he would keep strange of Hey, I'm trying to
get to Loki.
Speaker 5: I can't get to him.
Speaker 3: You're gonna help me in Secret Wars find a way
to get to this guy because he can control everything.
So I think Loki would definitely be on the list.
I think it's just that can Doom get to him?
Son said, list he might be out of reach on
that chair, you know with those.
Speaker 4: Horn I think, you know, probably the original Like they've
probably added in a couple of these other characters in
in the mix of these roles, probably because like and
bad Baby was supposed to be a big, you know,
doorway for this stuff, but they just probably really want
a different Like obviously he's still in this movie. We
know he was on a chair, just him though none
of the other people, because right, I kind of forgot
Lily is like retired, right, and then his daughter's not
in this, right, But you know, I think they just
want to They didn't want to make you have seen
Quantumnia to understand this. Yeah, they don't want to dive
too deep into that, which makes sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, we're gonna see it's gonna be it's gonna
be fun because soon I don't know if we're getting
anything at D twenty three that's happening in August, but
next year Comic Con that lead up, it's gonna be
gonna be interested to see what it all happens there. So, uh,
let's take our last ad break and we're gonna talk
about we talk about multi verses. We're gonna talk some
big multiverse stuff right now. So we'll be right.
Speaker 5: Back and we're back.
Speaker 3: So usually you know, on side Quest we cover this,
but you know, I think you'll you know Batman guy,
so maybe that's so you're fine covering here.
Speaker 4: Plus it's it's him info from you that you know, Kirkland,
he's a Batman fan, but I needed from the number
one Batman thing.
Speaker 3: It's not the Spidery Lego legacy game, right, it's the
Dark Knight Legacy Leo. But yet this is a song
that was rumored I think a couple months ago, when
I'm happy that it's real.
Speaker 5: So it seems like, well, it doesn't seem like they are.
Speaker 3: They announced that they're doing lego Batman the Legacy of
the Dark Knight, So I guess what's a little bit
different is the first reporting rumors were that was covering
each film. It does look like it is doing that,
but it looks like it's kind of more like a
an amalgamation or tribute to said things, right, because there's
something where it's like, you have Jeffrey Wrights Gordon Who's
gonna be in the like the Nolan franchise, And that's
where I think it's just kind of be It's gonna
be like a love letter to that. But I guess
I should say it is a Batman lego game. They
haven't said like how many levels, but looks like it's
gonna be kind of covering the whole gamut.
Speaker 5: Of most live action stuff.
Speaker 3: Even in the first trailer that came out, people were
wondering if even that the Snyder stuff was gonna be
there because the first trailer none of that was in there.
But today it was confirmed a the bvs. Batman Biles
in there, so I think they are covering everyone. They
even confirmed that the animated series Batman Biles in there.
Speaker 5: They confirm that there's characters like.
Speaker 3: A night Way that's never been in a Batman movie
that's gonna be in this game. So there's tons of stuff.
And then I can lead off. There's some details because
now this has been on the game's calm floor. So
it's gonna follow Pruce Wayne's entire story. Don't know what
that means, uh, incorporate elements from each Batman film. It's
gonna be an open world experience. I think it's gonna
be similar to the Skywalker one or like the.
Speaker 4: Marvel Arkham City Arkham City kind of yeah, or but
even like.
Speaker 3: For Lego, like the Marvel Superhero one like that was
Open City, New York. Confirmed playable characters Jim Gordon, Robbin Knight,
when Backgirl Cat will be Talia. I shouldn't have read that,
because you know the confirmed playable This is gonna be
like a wall of just like characters, Like, it's gonna
be so many, it's like going number one, you.
Speaker 4: Know, was that kind of because there's been three Lego
Batman games, and then one DC like villain thing. I think, right, like,
are those the four DC like? No, I think you're right, yeah,
we like it knows Batman. Was there like a huge
number of characters you can play?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you play all all the villains. So I think,
I think everyone you've seen here, it's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: This has it wrong. But I think, no, yeah, this
has it wrong. This still thing I have from this
Lego website, So my bad. But there's three difficulties. I
don't have the name right now, but the first two
difficulties I think the first difficulty is really like old
school Lego. The second difficulty is still unlimited lives. But
then the third one, which I don't know if this
is the case, the third one does have element on live,
so you know where you can just fall off you
kill all the time. That seems like it is harder,
and it's kind of funny in the menu screen, like
the level difficulties, it's like one goon, two goons, and
then the third ones like three goons, but one of
them is like a massive goon.
Speaker 4: That's like the Pattison difficulty.
Speaker 3: I feel like, yeah it is, So can you think
of any Lego game that like has done that where
it's like you.
Speaker 4: Would just die die game that has a difficulties. I'm
sure it's happened before, Like I know, like the once
you get like the not the minifigs, but like you
get a bunch of those collectibles that you can pick up,
and then you can like put on different crazy costumes
and stuff, and I think some of those probably make
the game harder, I would imagine, But yeah, like you're,
you're that's not something I really think of a bunch
of Lego games as the difficulty, I'm sure it's been
in there for different ones though.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then you've got because also something to pull
up our discressing.
Speaker 4: All the club says he thinks this is the first
ever Lego game with the difficulty setting, so that could
be the case. But yeah, I was that was my
I guess my main question you've already kind of answered,
is like it seemed to me like this is kind
of a bit of a Lego Skywalker Saga version of this,
and so I was wondering, is this like kind of
a compilation of Lego Black Men one, two, and three
plus like some new things, But it seems like no,
it seems like this is kind of a fresh new experience,
even though I was looking up and I guess some
of the movie stuff has been in those games, even
though they weren't based on any movie in particular. So
maybe it's gonna pull like certain elements from those other
ones out there.
Speaker 3: Have you?
Speaker 4: I guess you've played like all three of those over
the years.
Speaker 3: I played all of them except for the Super Villains one
because I just think I've heard that was just kind
of fine. I didn't hear like anything great about that.
But oh, man, do you not actually have a I
guess streamer doesn't let you share discord and whatnot. I
was trying to share all these these images here. Oh
that's odd. But anyways, I'll go back to it's gonna
be a local co ops, a no online co op,
but local co ops.
Speaker 5: So that's fun.
Speaker 3: The Batcave is gonna have customized displays for batsuits, vehicles,
and more. But they have shown that Gordon Batman like,
they've only shown off five Batman suits right now. They
showed the Batman one dark Knight braid in the bull
Golden age, and then the Rainbow suit, and then when
you go down there's like a bunch of suits. Even
Commissioner Gordon is gonna have a bunch of stuff. So
that's really interesting as well, because I know they've kind
of you kind of would get that in games where
it's like, okay, you got like Hermione, Hermione and the Cat,
but like this is looking it's gonna be more like
quite diverse.
Speaker 4: As far as how much do you think that maybe
that it actually will be a smaller roster of characters
this time around, or is it just like these main
three or four that you get like a shit ton
of consermes from them. Yeah, like Joker, you get like,
you know, the damaged variant and the regular.
Speaker 5: Variant, like those characters.
Speaker 3: When it said confirmed playable characters include Jim Cord and
Robin night Wing, Backgirl, Katwan, Talia maybe take out Talia,
but like those six and Batman, I could see like, okay,
this is the core of the bat family that I have.
Speaker 5: But at the same time, it's like that's tough for
me to.
Speaker 3: Argue that you wouldn't want to do a Joker, right
because Joker in this they had they made which was
it's very fun. They have the heath Ledger Joker so
he has like the regular face and the pain stuff.
But there's so much out there, and like s was saying,
they show a version of Zoe Kravitz but with the
fighter suit, so that's where it's just like, yeah, so
they're mix and matching everything and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: I have like obviously seen a few Batman things, but like, yeah,
I barely picked up on any of the specific things
that we're going out there, Like I saw the one
shot on like the bridge, you know, Pequid Seed from
The Batman. Yeah, but yeah, there's not a lot of
things that I was able to pick up the details.
That's why I needed you to break this down with me,
because I'm like, I don't have the knowledge to know
all these specific scenes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's why there's pretty much everything. The only
thing people hadn't seen stuff was from BVS and then.
Speaker 5: The other one was the sixty six.
Speaker 3: Now it's conflicting because when they showed that suit there's
the braid and the bold suit where he's like the
blue and the gray. People thought, oh, that's them covering
the sixty six stuff, but then they said that was
from something else.
Speaker 5: It was from the animated series. So we'll see. I
hope they give some love to Batman sixty six.
Speaker 3: But yeah, this was the difficulty thing I was talking
about where and I thank you asked both for Sharon
a Buck to this stuff.
Speaker 5: But yeah, so that's where it's at.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so limited lives, more enemies, advanced enemy types that
will appear more frequently.
Speaker 5: That's the hardest one.
Speaker 3: So yeah, so that's I kind of maybe they're doing
that just because they know, like there's a lot of
kid people that grew up with the game and their
adults now, so maybe they just don't want the full
just kind of kiddy version of it and put it
in there. And then this was a big one. We've
seen this from multiple places. It's not being confirmed by
devs yet, but in the Arkham games they're known for
having very challenging Riddler trophies. Now, I don't know if
they're gonna be as challenging, but the fact that multiple
places are saying that Riddler puzzlers scattered throughout Gotham even then,
this is what's so crazy. There's one moment in this
trailer where he sprays the bat symbol and a giant
blows up that's specifically from the Arkham games. So that's
where it's like, even though they're saying, oh, we're we're
attributing all these movies, it feels like they're tributing kind
of every big Batman thing is happening, like the Arkham
stuff like the Riddler's Open world and now just certain
moves that he does. And even then they said that,
what is the quote here? I have it, It's like, uh,
but uh, the game includes an Arkham style combat system,
which is not what I would think.
Speaker 4: For a leg I want to read from the from
the Steam pages as plays Batman with an exhilarating new
combat system combining fluid combos, stealth techniques, and detective skills.
So even that kind of stood out to me of like,
I wouldn't really describe any of the Lego games as
like having a combat system. I guess like by they
know very but it's like, oh, you have like three
slashes with your lightsaber if you keep hitting, So I
imagine this is going to take on like, because I
don't know, did those other Lego Batman games have like
the Arkham kind of combat or was it still like.
Speaker 3: I think most of those were made before Arkham as
well too. I have to maybe on similar time because
that's a crossover Lego Batman the first one Let's see game,
because I know the first Arkham game count nine and
then Lego Batman Wash eight, so it was like kind
of right before that. So but no, most of them
was the same as it would be like your Batman
Punch Punch Spin Kids.
Speaker 4: The difficulty game like that. That's cool. I think that
some people are gonna be really into it, like are
you gonna play this on the hardest difficulty?
Speaker 3: Are you gonna be yes? I'm going the lower ones.
I'm going to do both because I know the girls.
They've been really enjoying right now. They're playing through Lego
Harry Potter. We talk about Psye Quest and they've been
there almost done. They're now doing like getting all the
crests and getting all the red bricks. They're about to
go on a five to seven. So I'll do both
because with them, I'll play the I'll play the one
where the unlimited laws for now because they're used to
that and that's fun. But I definite we'll have a
slot that is just the Travis Dad slot and that's
where I'll be going hard and as says he's seen
a bunch of footage and it's literally one one of
the stealth and commat of Arkham, which is to me
super crazy. That's like, I'm kind of surprised, Like I
thought it was like, okay, some tributes, but like that's
very surprising and fun, especially because the Arham game is
pretty far away.
Speaker 4: But there's rainbow rainbow suit for Batman. That's fun. Yeah, yeah,
I mean I think it's cool. Like you know, seeing
t T games, which for many many years there were
just like they were just pumping these Lego games out,
and you know, I haven't played all of them, but
like when I played, you know, Lego Incredibles, was like
so disappointed because like this game just had no love
or care or probably you know, I just didn't have
the time or budget, right. It was just like, you
got to get this out before Incredibles too. We don't
care if this game sucks. You just got to get
out of the door. And I feel like they were
pumping them out and then it feels like at some point,
I don't know what it was, but it was like
a market thing or they just felt like budget wise,
I'm not sure, but like Skywalker Saga you know, I
didn't love that necessarily, but they really took their time.
There's a lot in that game they reinvented, like recreate
all these levels, and it seems like they're doing that
here for Batman as well, which is really cool to see,
not that it's a recreation of these previous games, but
that it's like a really fully fledged game and not
just like TT Games just like throwing out another, you know,
something to line up with the Batman two or something.
Right like this seems like it has some love behind it,
which is cool, and like even like them putting on
the show forur of games called maybe they've done that
with other Lego games. I'm sure they have in the past,
but I don't know. It just seems like they're really
excited about this and that they think it's more than
just TT Games making another Lego Batman game. It's like,
this is not Lego Batman four. This is like, oh yeah,
we're going at it with like a whole new Lego,
a whole new Batman experience.
Speaker 3: This feels different than usual Lego games, and I kind
of hope that I feel like with the Lego and
maybe that's like a good PSI Quest episode. Do I
feel like there's evolution points Like I remember when I
because it's one of my favorites, when I got Marvel Superheroes.
Speaker 5: And it was the I think I could be wrong,
but I think it's the first one.
Speaker 3: At least to that scope, when I had that massive
open New York and that's where I was like, Wow,
this is like, this is not what I'm expecting from
a Lego game, right, And I think there's certain times
where Lego does something where Okay, for about four to
six years they make games just like this, and then
something happens, and then another they do a game and
then it changes whether it's good or bad, right, Because
I agree with you there was a moment where they started.
I think The Hobbit was one of those type of
games too, where it's like, oh, get out for the Hobbit,
and that was because I remember too.
Speaker 5: I think it has like a weird Marvel thing when.
Speaker 3: It ends and it's like, you know, get ready for
the next chapter of Lego hob But yeah, Mike's taking
the words right from my mouth that they promoted, Oh
we're gonna do more, and they just never amaze hilarious.
Speaker 4: You know, one of the things you're supposed to be
for side quest tonight was was gaming trivia. That was
one of mine was like what movies are in Lego
the Hobbit. So I'll have to come up with a
new question now, but that was the Yeah, so weird
that that game didn't even have Battle of five Armies.
Speaker 3: That's crazy and that that's where that's where, like I said,
that's a good maybe like not to play them, I'll
but looking them all us for us to a topic
one time or even a bread and butter, because that's
there's we it'd be good to track down of like
the Incredibles of the Hobbits, what was was the.
Speaker 5: First game or what was the first game?
Speaker 3: That was like the rush get this out here in
the Lego aesthetic and just get them sales right because they,
like you said, they're doing that for a while. Now.
I'm kind of hoping, like I know I'm supposed to joking,
but when he says it's it's not Lego Batman for
it's Arkham foreign Lego. If this is as good, it's
one of those things where I say, I don't want
to get too right, but if it's as good as
they're promising.
Speaker 5: I want them to do this, you know we're talking
about earlier.
Speaker 3: Give this treatment to Spider Man, give this treatment to
other eye pieces. But like to me, for Marvel, it's
like man would be cool in Spider Man's right there. Yeah,
like because now Spider Man at this point has let's say, uh,
you got the three movie, you got three toe, He's
got three Toms and two Andrews.
Speaker 5: And even then if they're.
Speaker 3: Doing stuff in this game for the Batman and animated series,
which was so funny because Mike was like, oh, I
wish they'd do some of that, and I was like, oh,
I wish, but I just don't. I just don't see
that where this feels like now that the Batman piles
in there, it's like, okay, this is a love letter
to multitude facets, same thing Spider Man, the sixties animeated show,
the nineties anime show that you and I love, like
like even Spider Verse, right, you could throw those in there,
like you could do like that's where it's like, that's
why I kind of hope this is the the next
step of more like Lego games we get whether it's
I appear not like I you know, I've not tried,
and I'm not going to be playing the Horizon one,
but I would even be down if they made some
sort of like, hey, this is a this is Lego
the game, but this is to tribute the whole past
of Lego. So it's like whether it's using all like
the pirates and like all the castles medieval, like get
some bionicles in there, Like I love this, like this
is the Lego Legacy game and it's encapsulating all that.
So this does feel like it could potentially be a
big jumping off point for a Lego because if it does,
like you said, it feels like they're treating this one
a little.
Speaker 5: Differently and it's.
Speaker 3: Showing a little differently too, And uh yeah, I hope
it's great.
Speaker 5: This is now a Day one for me.
Speaker 4: So yeah. And I forget what the DLC packs were
for Skywalk Saga, but they I think they're mostly character packs,
and they featured I think like Rogue one or like
you know, movies that maybe didn't like weren't featured in that. Obviously,
the Skywalker Sagua was supposed to be the the nine
films on each of those stories. That's already a lot
to ask for. It's hard to be like, Okay, where's
Rogue one? Wasn't it in there? But at least like
through character packs. But I could see them doing that
for this, like when Batman two comes out, have a
little character pack of getting all those costumes. There's new
versions in there, maybe even a level of a mission,
because I guess you wouldn't really add new levels. I
guess you were just kind of building it out within
the map of Arkham. You could add new areas off
the side or new buildings that you could go in
to add new sections in there. I'm curious to see
how they do that that as well. Like I guess
I guess you know, in like Marvel and stuff, you
would like teleport to different areas, but obviously like New
York was kind of like the hub world of it all. Yeah,
so I guess they would do that for but I
don't know. Batman's usually still like in Gotham, right, it's
not usually going.
Speaker 3: Real And that's where Spider Man works, right too. You
just put them in New York and all this stuff
is happening around there, so that works. And see, that's
one thing I'll put because Super Mike says they did that.
It's called Lego Dimensions. The difference with that though, so
my pitch is of two different things. My pitch is
tributing Lego, not Lego IP. Like we all before Lego
Stars whatnot. At least I feel like my generation of
kids and you know, people my age, we just fell
in love with Lego, like I said, like the Pirate
sets the Medievals, Like that's what I mean, like going
that and the thing with dimensions though that was you
gotta buy the game and then like an Infinity character,
you gotta buy this pack and this pack. I'm saying,
don't do that, like put it all in the game.
And I'm saying, not IP, just tribute Lego. Like if
you could make something that has like, oh this has
a distinct fighting style, this has all these costumes like
I suppose brought up like the Batman Sellar had like
twenty different outfits. Like that's what I'd say is something
kind of you know, I never played the Lego movie
the game, but something like the way the Lego movie
it did have some IP, but it was also a
big tribute to just Lego. I think they could do that. Granted,
IP is always the smarter route, and I'm sure they
just do yes, Spider Man, But like.
Speaker 4: Well they have that other one they announced recently. I
can't remember the name, which is not good for the
marketing of that game, But like that co op platformer thing,
and that yeah, doesn't have like an IP to it.
It's just like an interesting like puzzle platform called and yeah,
I can't I have it written down on a list somewhere.
I can find out my backloged here, But like that
game looks great, And then they had that other one.
Oh yeah, I kins game of any of these freaking games.
But yeah, like they have other non IP ones that
are actually really cool, and some of them, like the
visuals are actually cracked, like they look like insane. So
I don't know, I think they are doing some cool stuff,
but I think it's probably a good thing overall that
TT games has like slowed down development on things. So
it's taking lots of these things, but we're getting better
games than even like the Horizon one wasn't even made
by TT games, right, it was just like Riki, but
it was made by a different studio altogether.
Speaker 3: Did you ever play? But you had to play?
Speaker 4: That's the one I was thinking of. By the way,
O co op platformer one.
Speaker 5: Did you play Lego City Undercover?
Speaker 4: I did not, but I've heard it super good.
Speaker 3: Oh man, yeah we should we. I don't know how
to play those where they beyond that'd be worth the retro?
Is it actually what I believe?
Speaker 4: It's on switch?
Speaker 5: Shit really because that suppose is right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's literally Lego GTA And like again, this is
not just because I'm a Strikers fan. They had a
great Lego soccer game as well. Their Lego Soccer game
was banging. There was one me and my friend one time,
like after middle school.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is on switch.
Speaker 5: Really, how much is that going for?
Speaker 4: Dude? These Lego games go cheap. I have somebody know
my wish list and they're like a three dollars to
pick up Lego Harry.
Speaker 5: Potter with seven Harry Potter seven.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but no, that's.
Speaker 4: All because I think I don't even know if I've
a wishless anywhere. But maybe I'll put my switch wishless
try and pick it up for a stream or something
like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah that no, that like Lego did some great stuff,
So that's where so Lego Voyagers is there a data
Lego Voyagers.
Speaker 4: Yet I don't think so mean.
Speaker 3: Okay, so No. No.
Speaker 4: Five apparently Setember, oh September.
Speaker 5: God damn, that is coming out soon.
Speaker 4: I don't have that on my list. I gotta put
that on my list.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, yeah no.
Speaker 3: And that's that's where yeah, building a better Tomorrow all
and stuff. So that's where I just I think Lego
I think they kind of know this too, where I
think they just gotten a holding holding pattern of just
always and I get it they printed off money of
formula IP put together do.
Speaker 5: The same thing and go right.
Speaker 3: But and I think even with Rice Skywalker, which I agree,
I'd never played it fully, but I've heard like mixed
things on it, I feel like it is time for
them to take some swings. Now. Obviously Horizon made by them,
but Voyagers and Batman back to back. That gives me
hope that we could get more stuff like Lego City
Undercover in the future or like I said, whatever, like
a Lego Legacy game, Like I hope they could kind of,
you know, stretch out a little bit because but yeah,
no Undercover being on Switch that's cool and.
Speaker 4: Looking up like yeah, Voyagers, so that's actually not made
by TT Games once again really okay delineation there. So
it's like there are other studios now that are tackling Lego,
which I don't know. I guess t T Games I
assume had like maybe a monopoly on that for a
while there were they are the only ones allowed to
make games, but it seems like they're hanging it out
now because this one's published by Annapurna developer's Light Brick studio.
So yeah, it's good to just have like some variety
in the mix there too. But this is definitely like
a you know, Rising Tide rises all boats kind of
situation where it's like, you know, you get a game
like Voyagers. People are feeling better about the Lego IP
overall and they pick up the Batman thing. They don't
they don't know who makes these games. They just see,
oh it's Lego. You must be the same developer. But yeah,
this is good, good news.
Speaker 3: Oh Man to September third, I'm gonna buy this probably
after this cast. Lego City Undercover right now is five
six bucks. It's it has eighty five percent sale right now.
Speaker 4: And I need something to play on my switch to
and maybe I'll grab that too.
Speaker 3: Originally, forty now six dollars. Yeah no, thank thank you
Chat for showing that because I didn't. But and yeah,
I didn't even know that was on there. I'm guessing
Lego Soccer is not on there. If Lego Soccer's on there,
that'd be something.
Speaker 4: Special Lego soccer, I don't think.
Speaker 5: Let's see, it's titled Lego two K goal, a new Lego.
Speaker 4: Crazy name, Lego two.
Speaker 3: I know. Yeah, that doesn't look like the original, uh
Lego one. I did long rumored Lego football games. Yeah, no,
I think that was a newer one. I'm talking about
like in the two thousands here. But yeah, no, I'm
I'm very excited. So yeah, and I'll begin that what
were you on that? Because I'll say, I know you
don't have the biggest batman guy, but I know you're
like Lego games is more like still, wait and see
this is a sale.
Speaker 5: Where are you gonna be on this?
Speaker 4: You know, It's funny like when Skywalker Sauga was coming out,
I was obviously like, I'm still I'm kind of in
my extreme below for Star Wars hype. Yeah, but I'm like,
this is the thing. I love Lego star Wars going up.
This is the thing that's gonna get me hyped on
Star Wars again. I'm gonna love this so much.
Speaker 3: Picked it up.
Speaker 4: Did not like the game just because of like the
way it was designed, I guess to put it, you know, lightly,
We did a whole episode on up Side questf you
only but listen to that, uh you know, so that
didn't really like change much for me. So like this
was definitely on the radar for me. But you know,
knowing how deeply these games go on sale, this one
will probably go in the wish list and I'll pick
it up someday. But like, I don't know, like shy
O back and plays old Lego Batman games at all,
Like or should I just kind of wait for this
one to go on and sale, you think?
Speaker 3: I think. I think it's tough because they always.
Speaker 4: Still having the movie connection for like the Nole and stuff.
The New Batman. Yeah, that's gonna be some really and
that's that's cool for me. I like those connections. Yeah,
and obviously the newest, prettiest version is a nice selling
point too.
Speaker 3: It's tough because I feel like they're definitely those two
are because I think Lego two has like minor open world.
So for Lego Batman two is minor open world stuff,
but Lego Batman one it's just like the story story,
very like Skywalker stuff. So like, I don't know, I
don't know. I think that it'd be more work to
wait to this one because I feel like you've played
that type of Lego game and if you don't have
the love for Batman, then it might not be worth it.
Where this one, at least, even if you don't have
the love for Batman, I think could offer something new
to the Lego world. So I think you're I think
you're fine way unless it's like dirty Mike says, the
first one super dated.
Speaker 4: It's there you go, there you go. Yeah. I mean
I feel like when you're on that side Quest episode
telling me all about this game, that I'm gonna be like,
oh God, I got to pick this up. It might
be it might be one of those, so we'll see why.
Speaker 3: No, Taylor says he's getting it too, so there could
be a Freeway side quest. Yeah, because we we've our
Waltz got hit hard this week because that and then
the Michael Myers one. That's that's a day one for
us too, because I've been because I liked that Texas
Chainsaw game a lot that we played, but it it
didn't hit the heights of Friday the thirteenth. And I
think just because now that Michael's there is okay, this
is looking similar. So yeah, but twenty twenty six is
getting really stacked right now for me because it's like GTA,
I assume it's coming out. You know, so you got GTA,
you got now this, and then you got the Halloween game.
I think there's another two twenty sixteme that's on a Radar.
Speaker 4: Six, you got double seven, you got right Marvel token right, yeah,
people in the mix?
Speaker 3: Do you do you got Fawel mix? Or are we
gonna wake up one morning to like, oh, studios closed
down and yet.
Speaker 4: You know Resident Evil? Yeah GTA, as you mentioned, so, yeah,
it's it's looking pretty pretty stacked. I'm sure there's gonna
be some big intent that.
Speaker 3: The stuff we know too, right, we don't even know, Like,
I feel like there's something else coming out A.
Speaker 4: Bunch of other smaller ones think what are like big travesy?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Is there not anything like Nintendo rumored?
Speaker 4: Nothing yet?
Speaker 3: Really we got I guess the other one for me,
the trasty when he could be thinking, is Marvel nineteen
forty three, if that is still.
Speaker 4: Happening, supposed to be next year?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I remember it was supposed to be December,
but they got kicked to next year.
Speaker 4: So but I don't remember that, but I'll keep that
in mind.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's yeah, it's yeah, it's getting already a girthy.
Speaker 4: Marvel token Rise of Hydra. That' that'd be a good
one two punch.
Speaker 3: That would be yeah. Oh and then yeah, that's the
other one too. Is the Star Wars zero company that the.
Speaker 4: Not also supposed to be next year.
Speaker 5: That's what's listens right now is twenty twenty six.
Speaker 4: And I'm seeing these trailers and I'm not seeing a
whole lot of substance, and I'm shy to go ahead
and like assume they're coming out next year, but man, sure,
why not?
Speaker 3: Let me just see yea it says it's on me
yea website. Let's see uh Electronics Respawn Entertainment published by
and Lucasfilm Games.
Speaker 4: All games, I think, so like over your.
Speaker 3: Way, I guess. But still if they come out, yeah,
might save up yeah, and save up one hundred and
fifty dollars for GTA six. That's the problem because they
have said this year I've tried to buy like I
buy new games, but ones we're gonna really dive deep
in and play that two away. Six is a year
that like luckily that Halloween game. I don't think it's
gonna be like a full sixty, but there's a lot
of stuff that is Bond, Star Wars, Marvel if it
all hits, and yeah, GTA I will play.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna pay whatever they put there.
Speaker 3: I'm one of those suckers that whatever they put, whatever
the price is, Travis will be their day one paying it.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm with you. I'll be there.
Speaker 5: So well, there you go.
Speaker 3: We did it. Not too bad for throwing an episode
together two hours before, you know, yeah Kirkland, So yeah,
so there you go. So yeah, next week there's gonna
be no newscast now because we're gonna record the extra
side quest if there I do have it on the calendar,
when is it from?
Speaker 5: Is it next Wednesday?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah? Next? When there's like a rumor that there's
a chair another chair reveal it's from a very low source,
but people are reporting it. But that's what's gonna happen
the next two weeks. We don't have a newscast plan.
If there's like something massive, we will do like just
a one quick topic based on that. But we got
lots of stuff between side quests and fish off, some
Patren stuff and reviews, there's lots of lots of stuff
going on. So but yeah, if anything happens, of course
we talk about that, and yeah until I guess after nine,
we'll catch you later and it won't be boring.
Speaker 4: Bye bye,