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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Bedtime Astronomy. Explore the wonders of the cosmos

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<v Speaker 1>with our soothing Bedtime Astronomi podcast. Each episode offers a

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<v Speaker 1>gentle journey through the stars, planets, and beyond, perfect for

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<v Speaker 1>unwinding after a long day. Let's travel through the mysteries

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe as you drift off into a peaceful

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<v Speaker 1>slumber under the night sky.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine looking into a kindergarten classroom. You'd expect to see

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<v Speaker 2>you four year olds playing with blocks, figuring out basic shapes,

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<v Speaker 2>just sort.

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<v Speaker 3>Of napping, spilling juice.

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<v Speaker 2>Right exactly, just starting to piece the world together. But instead,

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<v Speaker 2>sitting right there in one of those tiny plastic chairs

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<v Speaker 2>is a fully grown, fifty.

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<v Speaker 3>Year old adult wearing a tailored suit.

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<v Speaker 2>Wearing a tailored suit, doing complex calculator. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 2>makes absolute no sense, right, The timeline is just completely broken.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that adult simply hasn't had the time to.

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<v Speaker 2>Grow up in that exactly, and that feeling of just

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<v Speaker 2>complete paradigm breaking confusion. That is exactly what astrophysicists experienced recently.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh absolutely, when the James Webb Space Telescope stared into

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<v Speaker 2>the deepest, oldest reaches of the universe.

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<v Speaker 3>It is honestly the ultimate cosmic anachronism. Yeah, we're looking

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<v Speaker 3>at a stage in the universe's history where everything should

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<v Speaker 3>be in its infancy, right, you know, small gas clouds,

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<v Speaker 3>the very first rudimentary star is just just beginning to ignite,

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<v Speaker 3>small structures starting to merge together. Babies, just babies. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>But sitting right there in the middle of this cosmic

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<v Speaker 3>kindergarten is an absolute monster, a super massive black hole.

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<v Speaker 2>It's wild. And to really understand why this discovery is

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<v Speaker 2>keeping cosmologists awake at night, we kind of have to

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<v Speaker 2>look at the classical.

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<v Speaker 3>Rules of the universe, right, the established playbook.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, because the model we've all accepted for decades, it's

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<v Speaker 2>built on a very simple, very logical sequence of events

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<v Speaker 2>starts small. You have to right in the beginning, you

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<v Speaker 2>have giant clouds of gas. Gravity pulls that gas together

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<v Speaker 2>until it ignites, and boom, you get a star.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, And a massive star burns, furiously runs out of

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<v Speaker 3>nuclear fuel, and eventually, well, it collapses under its own

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<v Speaker 3>immense weight, and.

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<v Speaker 2>That collapse creates a stellar mass black.

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<v Speaker 3>Hole right exactly, the dead remnant of a single star.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a small baby black hole. And from there, the

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<v Speaker 2>classical model says, this little black hole starts to feed.

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<v Speaker 2>It pulls in surrounding gas as well as rogue planets.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it merges with another small black hole in nearby.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a slow process of accretion.

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<v Speaker 2>Accretion, right. But here's the critical part for you listening.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a hard physical speed limit on how fast

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<v Speaker 2>a black hole can actually eat, isn't there?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the Eddington limit. And this is a crucial piece

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<v Speaker 3>of the physics puzzle that makes this new discovery just

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<v Speaker 3>so baffling.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that down for us.

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<v Speaker 3>So, when gas falls into a black hole, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>just drop straight in. It swirls around, you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>water circling a drain.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, forming that accretion disk exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And as all that material rubs together, it do the

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<v Speaker 3>speed of light. The friction heats the gas up to

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<v Speaker 3>millions of degrees oh wow. Yeah, and that causes it

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<v Speaker 3>to emit massive amounts of radiation, just blinding light and heat.

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<v Speaker 2>And that radiation pushes outward, doesn't it Precisely, The outward

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<v Speaker 2>pressure of the radiation pushes against the inward pull.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the black hole's gravity.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a tug of war exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>So if a black hole tries to eat too much

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<v Speaker 3>too fast, the radiation pressure becomes so intense that it

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<v Speaker 3>actually blows the surrounding food away.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, so it stars itself.

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<v Speaker 3>It starves itself. So because of this Eddington limit, a

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<v Speaker 3>black hole can only grow at a strictly regulated, very

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<v Speaker 3>incremental pace.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So to go from a single dead star to

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<v Speaker 2>a super massive black hole with the mass of millions

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<v Speaker 2>of suns.

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<v Speaker 3>You need billions of years of slow, steady.

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<v Speaker 2>Feeding billions, which means the galaxy, you know, the stars,

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<v Speaker 2>the gas, the whole food source has to exist first.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, the stars are the bricks. You need generations of them, living, dying,

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<v Speaker 3>and feeding the center to slowly build this supermassive skyscraper.

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<v Speaker 2>But the James Web Space Telescope just found a skyscraper

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<v Speaker 2>that exists before the bricks were ever even manufactured.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's it's mind bending. The object we are looking

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<v Speaker 3>at is officially cataloged as a bell two seven four

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<v Speaker 3>four QSO one.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's pause on that name for a second. QSO one.

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<v Speaker 2>I know astronomers love their acronyms, but what does QSO

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<v Speaker 2>actually stand for? And like, why does it matter here?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>So, QSO stands for quasi stellar object, which is the

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<v Speaker 3>formal term for what we more commonly call a quasar moiser. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>when astronomers first discovered these things back in the mid

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<v Speaker 3>twentieth century, they looked through their telescopes and saw what

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<v Speaker 3>looked like ordinary single stars, just a little pin pricks

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<v Speaker 3>of light exactly. But when they analyzed the light, the

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<v Speaker 3>energy output was impossibly high for a single star, so

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<v Speaker 3>they called them quasi stellar.

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<v Speaker 2>Quasi stellar, so they weren't stars.

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<v Speaker 3>At all, not at all. It took years to realize

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<v Speaker 3>that these were actually the intensely glowing accretion disks of

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<v Speaker 3>supermassive black hole at.

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<v Speaker 2>The centers of distant galaxies.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, feeding so voraciously that they outshine the hundreds of

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<v Speaker 3>billions of stars in their host galaxy combined.

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<v Speaker 2>That is just terriff. So when we talk about QSO one,

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<v Speaker 2>we are talking about an actively feeding, brilliantly bright black hole, right.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's often referred to in the research as little

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<v Speaker 3>red dot.

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<v Speaker 2>Little red dot, which sounds cute but perfectly describes how

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<v Speaker 2>it appears on the James Web imaging sensors.

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<v Speaker 3>It does, But that simple visual description really belies an

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<v Speaker 3>astonishing reality.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's look at the timeline. QSO one existed just

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred million years after the Big Bang. Now, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're listening to this, you probably know the universe is

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<v Speaker 2>roughly thirteen point eight billion years old, give or take. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so let's map that onto a human life span to

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<v Speaker 2>make it visceral. If the universe is an eighty year

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<v Speaker 2>old person today, we are looking at a snapshot from

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<v Speaker 2>when that person was just four years old, a toddler,

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<v Speaker 2>a toddler, and at that toddler stage, the light from

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<v Speaker 2>this object began its journey.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. It has been traveling through the expanding vacuum of

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<v Speaker 3>space for over thirteen billion years just to hit the

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<v Speaker 3>golden mirrors of our.

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<v Speaker 2>Telescope, which is crazy to think about.

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<v Speaker 3>And because the universe is expanding, the space between us

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<v Speaker 3>and QSO one has been literally stretching the entire time

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<v Speaker 3>that light.

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<v Speaker 2>Was in transit, right, which is exactly why we need

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<v Speaker 2>James Webb in the first place. Isn't it like Hubble

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't have spotted this?

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<v Speaker 3>No, Hubble is an incredibly powerful optical and ultra violet telescope. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but think about what happens when you stretch a light wave,

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<v Speaker 3>it changes color exactly as the universe expands. It grabs

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<v Speaker 3>the visible light emitted by QSO one thirteen billion years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>and stretches the wavelength.

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<v Speaker 2>So by the time it reaches us, that wave.

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<v Speaker 3>Has been stretched out of the visible spectrum entirely and

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<v Speaker 3>into the infrared. It's called cosmological red shift.

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<v Speaker 2>Redshift, so the light literally becomes redder and then completely invisible.

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<v Speaker 2>To humanize, right, and.

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<v Speaker 3>James Web was specifically engineered with near infrared and mid

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<v Speaker 3>infrared sensors to capture this exact kind of ancient stretched light.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so Web spots this infrared little red dot. But

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<v Speaker 2>the physical size of this thing is what really caught

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it's tiny.

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<v Speaker 2>It's only thirteen hundred light years across for anyone trying

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<v Speaker 2>to visualize that. You know, our own Milky Way galaxy

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<v Speaker 2>is about one hundred thousand light years from edge to edge. Right, so,

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<v Speaker 2>QSO one is barely more than one percent the size

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<v Speaker 2>of our galaxy.

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<v Speaker 3>It is incredibly compact.

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<v Speaker 2>But wait, if you're listening to this and running the

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<v Speaker 2>mental math, a massive red flag should be going up

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<v Speaker 2>right now. It should because if something is only thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>hundred light years wide and it is located thirteen billion

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<v Speaker 2>light years away. Yeah, it shouldn't just be a dot. No,

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<v Speaker 2>it should be sub microscopic. I mean it should be

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<v Speaker 2>entirely invisible even to James web The resolution required to

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<v Speaker 2>see any internal structure of an object that small at

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<v Speaker 2>that distance, it borders on science fiction, it really does.

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<v Speaker 2>How are we not just seeing a single blurry pixel.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that skepticism is entirely warranted. I mean, if we

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<v Speaker 3>were just pointing James Webb in an empty patch of

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<v Speaker 3>space and zooming in, we would not be able to

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<v Speaker 3>resolve the details of QSO one.

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<v Speaker 2>The optics just wouldn't allow it.

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<v Speaker 3>The geometry of the optics simply wouldn't allow it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we're only able to study this object because we had

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<v Speaker 3>help from one of the most bizarre and powerful phenomenon.

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<v Speaker 2>Physics, gravitational lensing.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly in this case, Nature provided us with a giant

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<v Speaker 3>magnifying glass called ABLE twenty seven forty four, also known

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<v Speaker 3>as Pandora's.

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<v Speaker 2>Cluster Caandora's cluster. It's like a massive pile up of

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<v Speaker 2>multiple galaxy clusters. But how does a cluster of galaxies

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<v Speaker 2>act as a magnifying glass. We're obviously not talking about

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<v Speaker 2>glass lenses here.

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<v Speaker 3>No, we have to step into Einstein's general theory of

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<v Speaker 3>relativity for this.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 3>So. Einstein revolutionized our understanding of gravity by showing that

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<v Speaker 3>it isn't just you know, a magnetic like pull between

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<v Speaker 3>objects mass actually bends the fabric of space and time itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. Classic analogy is the bowling ball on a trampoline.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the heavy ball creates a deep dip in the fabric,

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<v Speaker 3>and if you roll a marble nearby, its path curves

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<v Speaker 3>down into the dip.

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<v Speaker 2>The trampoline analogy is great for picturing the dip. But

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<v Speaker 2>and correct me if I'm wrong. Light doesn't roll. Light

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<v Speaker 2>always travels in a perfectly straight line. That's a fundamental

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<v Speaker 3>Well, light does travel in a straight line, But what

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<v Speaker 3>happens when the space it's traveling through is curved. Imagine

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<v Speaker 3>Now crumple that paper or wrap it around a sphere.

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<v Speaker 2>The line you drew is still straight relative to the

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<v Speaker 2>surface of the paper.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, but in three dimensional space it's bending and curving

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<v Speaker 3>along with the paper.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that makes sense. So the light from our little

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<v Speaker 2>red dot QSO one is speeding toward Earth, but sitting

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<v Speaker 2>directly between us and QSO one is Pandora's cluster.

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<v Speaker 3>And Pidora's cluster contains the mass of trillions of stars,

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<v Speaker 3>massive amounts of gas, and just vast halos of dark matter.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a gravitational heavyweight.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a huge bowling ball on the trampoline.

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<v Speaker 3>Huge. It warps the space around it so severely that

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<v Speaker 3>when the light from QSO one approaches, it's forced to

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<v Speaker 3>travel through this warped curved space. The cluster essentially pinches

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<v Speaker 3>the light paths together, focusing them toward us, just like.

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<v Speaker 2>A literal magnifying glass focuses sunlight exactly like that, it

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<v Speaker 3>But gravitational lenses are not polished glass. They are lumpy, chaotic,

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<v Speaker 3>takes multiple paths. Wait, really, yeah, some light goes left

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<v Speaker 2>And because space is warped differently on the left side

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. Yeah, the light taking the left path might arrive

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<v Speaker 3>And from our perspective on Earth, looking back at the cluster,

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<v Speaker 2>See. I have to play the skeptic again here, seeing

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<v Speaker 2>three distorted smeared copies of a galaxy scattered around a cluster.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds like an absolute nightmare for a data scientist.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's incredibly complex.

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<v Speaker 2>It's literally a funhouse mirror. If you look at yourself

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<v Speaker 2>are tiny, your waist is warped. You can't use that

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<v Speaker 2>reflection to accurately measure your height or your weight. Right, So,

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<v Speaker 2>if QUSO one is distorted by this cosmic funhouse mirror,

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<v Speaker 2>how can we possibly trust any measurements we take of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that is the paradox of gravitational lensing. The spatial image,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the physical shape we see on the screen

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<v Speaker 3>is absolutely distorted. If we tried to measure its exact

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<v Speaker 3>physical boundaries based purely on the picture, we'd be completely wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>But we aren't just taking photographs. You're taking spectra. And

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<v Speaker 3>while the funhouse mirror changes the shape of the image,

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<v Speaker 3>it does not change the fundamental properties of the light itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I see, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The wavelengths of light, the chemical fingerprints embedded in that light,

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<v Speaker 3>the velocity signatures, those remain pristine.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so the funhouse mirror might stretch my face, but

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<v Speaker 3>Eyes precisely, and more importantly, the magnification effect, the sheer

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<v Speaker 3>enough actual light particles to feed into our most advanced instruments.

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<v Speaker 2>So we need the distortion we do.

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<v Speaker 3>Without the funhouse mirror, the light from qso one would

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<v Speaker 3>just be too faint to analyze. The distortion is the

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<v Speaker 3>price of admission for the magnification.

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<v Speaker 2>And the instrument that paid that price of admission The

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<v Speaker 2>one that actually decoded this light is the Near Infrared spectrograph.

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<v Speaker 3>On James Web Yes, the nir.

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<v Speaker 2>SPEC, specifically using something called an integral field unit or IFU.

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<v Speaker 2>to this entire discovery. This isn't just a camera.

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<v Speaker 3>No, not at all. A standard camera gives you a

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<v Speaker 3>two dimensional picture. You see a glowing dot and you

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<v Speaker 3>can measure how bright it is and maybe it's general color.

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<v Speaker 3>A sectograph, on the other hand, takes the light from

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<v Speaker 3>a single point and passes it through a prism or

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<v Speaker 3>a diffraction grating, splitting it into a rainbow.

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<v Speaker 2>Just like Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon album.

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<v Speaker 3>Cover, exactly like that. And when you look at that rainbow,

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<v Speaker 3>you see dark bands or bright lines at very specific colors.

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<v Speaker 3>Those lines are chemical fingerprints.

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<v Speaker 2>Fingerprints.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, every element in the universe, hydrogen, oxygen, carbon, absorbs

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<v Speaker 3>and in its light at incredibly specific, unique wavelengths. By

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<v Speaker 3>looking at the bar code of lines in the spectrum,

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<v Speaker 3>we know exactly what an object is made of without

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<v Speaker 2>But the integral field unit, the IFU takes this a

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<v Speaker 2>step further, doesn't. It doesn't just take one spectrum of

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<v Speaker 3>No, the IFU is an engineering morvel. It takes the

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<v Speaker 3>image page of QSO one and slices it up into

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<v Speaker 3>a grid of hundreds of tiny individual pixels, and then

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<v Speaker 3>it takes complete separate spectrum for every single one of

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<v Speaker 3>those pixels simultaneously.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait simultaneously. So instead of just saying this whole dot

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<v Speaker 2>is made of hydrogen, the if you can say the

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<v Speaker 2>top left corner has this chemical makeup, the bottom right

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<v Speaker 2>has this makeup, and the center has this make up.

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<v Speaker 3>Precisely, it's a three D data cube. You get an

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<v Speaker 3>X and y axis for the picture and the Z

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<v Speaker 3>axis for the chemistry of every microscopic piece of the picture.

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<v Speaker 3>That is unbelievable, And chemistry isn't all the spectrum tells us.

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<v Speaker 3>The spectrum also reveals motion. And this is how the researchers,

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<v Speaker 3>led by scientists like Igness George Papalis and cosen wal Marcantini,

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<v Speaker 3>this is how they achieved the impossible.

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<v Speaker 2>They directly wighed the black hole.

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<v Speaker 3>They did.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we mentioned earlier that we measure motion using the

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<v Speaker 2>Doppler effect. Let's make sure the mechanics of that are

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<v Speaker 2>crystal clear for everyone listening.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, most people experience the Doppler effect with sound. You

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<v Speaker 3>know you hear an ambulance come down the street towards you.

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<v Speaker 3>As it moves towards you, it's chasing its own sound waves,

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<v Speaker 3>compressing them. Compress sound waves mean a higher pitch.

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<v Speaker 2>But the moment it passes you.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly the moment it passes you and drives away, the

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<v Speaker 3>sound waves are stretched out and the pitch drops instantly OO.

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<v Speaker 2>And light does the exact same thing, because light is

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, if a cloud of glowing hydrogen gas in QSO

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<v Speaker 3>one is moving toward Earth, its light waves are compressed

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<v Speaker 3>in the spectrum of light. Shorter compressed waves shift toward

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<v Speaker 2>Rainbow, which we call blue shift right.

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<v Speaker 3>And if the gas is moving away from us, the

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<v Speaker 3>the spectrum red shift.

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<v Speaker 2>So. Using the IFU, the researchers looked at the cloud

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<v Speaker 2>of hydrogen gas swirling around the center of QSO one.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's swirling, one side of the gas cloud is

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<v Speaker 2>side is moving away exactly the if you allowed them

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<v Speaker 2>to look at the left pixel and see a blue shift,

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<v Speaker 2>and look at the right pixel and see a yes.

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<v Speaker 3>And by measuring exactly how blue or how red the

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<v Speaker 2>They mapped the speed of a gas cloud thirteen billion

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<v Speaker 3>Map they generated is the smoking gun that destroyed the

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<v Speaker 3>classical model. Why because when they plotted the velocity of

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<v Speaker 3>the gas against its distance from the exact center of

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<v Speaker 3>the object, they didn't just see a random, swirling mess.

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<v Speaker 3>They saw a highly structured, mathematically perfect curve known as Kepplearian.

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<v Speaker 2>Motion Giplarian motion, named after Johannes Kepler, the astronomer who

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<v Speaker 2>figured out the laws of planetary motion in our own

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<v Speaker 2>solar system in the seventeenth century. Let's visualize this, because

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<v Speaker 2>it is the absolute crux of the argument. Think of

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<v Speaker 2>how our solar system operates. Mercury is the closest planet

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<v Speaker 2>Earth is further still, moving slower than Venus by the

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<v Speaker 2>time you get out to Neptune, it is practically crawling

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<v Speaker 2>along its orbit. Compared to Mercury. The speed drops off

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<v Speaker 2>in a very specific steep curve the further way you get.

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<v Speaker 3>And why does it drop off like that, Because gravity

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<v Speaker 3>follows an inverse square law. The gravitational pull of the

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<v Speaker 3>Sun weakens drastically as you move outward. But the only

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<v Speaker 3>reason we see this clean, predictable curve in the Solar

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<v Speaker 3>not spread out over ninety nine point eight percent of

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<v Speaker 3>all the mass in our entire solar system is concentrated

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<v Speaker 3>in a single, incredibly dense central point, the Sun. The Sun.

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<v Speaker 2>I like to picture it like a tether ball pole

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<v Speaker 2>on a playground. You have a heavy, solid metal pole

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<v Speaker 2>When you hit the ball, it swings around the pole

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<v Speaker 2>in a tight predictable arc. The tension is clear, the

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<v Speaker 2>anchor is clear.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a great analogy.

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<v Speaker 2>The mass is in the middle and the gas or

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<v Speaker 2>the ball simply responds to that central mass.

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<v Speaker 3>And that is exactly what the IFU data showed in

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<v Speaker 3>QSO one. The hydrogen gas closest to the center was

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<v Speaker 3>moving at blistering speeds thousands of colometers per second.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>And as they measure the gas further out, the velocity

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<v Speaker 3>dropped on a perfect Cuplearrian curve. The tether ball pole

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<v Speaker 3>was there.

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<v Speaker 2>But what if it wasn't a black hole? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>what if QSO one was just a really dense cluster

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<v Speaker 2>of stars, like a normal galaxy in the making.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if QSO one was a normal, mature galaxy packed

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<v Speaker 3>with stars, the mass would be distributed, it wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 3>a tetherball pole. Okay, Imagine instead that the mass was

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<v Speaker 3>a massive, chaotic swarm of bees. If you throw a

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<v Speaker 3>ball through the swarm of bees, there was no single

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<v Speaker 3>central anchor pulling on it. It gets pulled a little

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<v Speaker 3>to the left by this clump of bees, a little

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<v Speaker 3>to the right by that clump.

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<v Speaker 2>So the rotation wouldn't be smooth like if you look

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<v Speaker 2>at the rotation curve of a normal galaxy like the

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<v Speaker 2>Milky Way, it does not drop off steeply at the edges. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>the stars at the outer edge of our galaxy are

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<v Speaker 2>moving surprisingly fast. That flat rotation curve is actually how

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<v Speaker 2>we discovered dark matter, right, because there was invisible mass

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<v Speaker 2>spread through the galaxy, pulling on the outer stars exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>A distributed mass creates a flat or chaotic rotation curve.

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<v Speaker 3>A concentrated mass creates a Coplearian curve. And the data

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<v Speaker 3>from QSO one was undeniably keplarium.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's concentrated.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the gas was governed entirely by the simple laws

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<v Speaker 3>of gravity acting on a single dominant central mass.

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<v Speaker 2>Which meant the team could do something unprecedented. By knowing

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<v Speaker 2>the velocity of the gas in its distance from the center,

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<v Speaker 2>they could use basic Newtonian physics to calculate exactly how

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<v Speaker 2>much mass was required to force the gas to move

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't have to guess, they didn't have to extrapolate

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<v Speaker 3>from modern black holes. They directly weighed the invisible anchor, and.

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<v Speaker 2>The number they derived was staggering.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, fifty million times the mass of our sun.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifty million solar masses. I mean, just let that sink

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<v Speaker 2>in for a second. Just seven hundred million years after

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<v Speaker 2>the Big Bang, an object with the weight of fifty

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<v Speaker 2>million suns is sitting in the center of this tiny,

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen hundred light year wide spe of space. It's massive,

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<v Speaker 2>but as immense as that number is the sheer mass.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't what breaks the models, is it? The real shock

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<v Speaker 2>comes when you compare that fifty million to the rest

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<v Speaker 3>Right, This brings us to a terrifying revelation about the

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<v Speaker 3>structure of QSO one. We can calculate the mass of

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<v Speaker 3>the black hole from the gas velocity. We can also

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<v Speaker 3>estimate the mass of the entire system, the gas, the

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<v Speaker 3>potential dark matter, any faint stars that might be there.

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<v Speaker 2>Based on the total light and dynamic motion exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And when the researchers compared the two, they found that

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<v Speaker 3>the black hole makes up at least two thirds of

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<v Speaker 3>the entire mass of the object, sixty six percent at least.

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<v Speaker 3>It could be even higher.

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<v Speaker 2>The black hole is two thirds of the hole. To

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<v Speaker 2>understand why that is so utterly bizarre, we have to

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<v Speaker 2>look at our own neighborhood. Let's look at the Milky Way.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a super massive black hole at the center

435
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<v Speaker 2>of our galaxy, Sagittarius a star, it's a beast. It's

436
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<v Speaker 2>about four million times the mass of our Sun. But

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<v Speaker 2>the Milky Way galaxy as a whole, including the hundreds

438
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<v Speaker 2>of billions of starfre the sprawling spiral arms of gas.

439
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<v Speaker 2>The massive halo of dark matter. The Milky Way weighs

440
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<v Speaker 2>something on the order of a trillion solar masses.

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<v Speaker 3>Which means mathematically, Sagittarius a star makes up roughly points

442
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<v Speaker 3>zero zero zero four percent of the Milky Way's total mass.

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<v Speaker 3>That's nothing. In the modern universe. A super massive black hole,

444
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<v Speaker 3>as terrifying and powerful as it is, is basically a

445
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<v Speaker 3>rounding error when you weigh the entire host galaxy.

446
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<v Speaker 2>It's a tiny anger in a vast ocean of stars.

447
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<v Speaker 2>Even in the most extreme giant elliptical galaxies we see today,

448
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<v Speaker 2>the central black hole might make up maybe one percent

449
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<v Speaker 2>of the host's mass if that, but in QSO one

450
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<v Speaker 2>it is sixty six percent. The proportions are just flipped.

451
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<v Speaker 2>It's a lopsided universe.

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<v Speaker 3>That is the perfect way to phrase it. This isn't

453
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<v Speaker 3>the galaxy that happens to have a black hole in

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<v Speaker 3>the center. This is a massive black hole that just

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<v Speaker 3>happens to have a faint, wispy halo of gas clinging

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<v Speaker 3>to it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's essentially a naked supermassive black hole. Pretty Much the

458
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<v Speaker 2>environment is completely and utterly dominated by this singular gravitational monster,

459
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<v Speaker 2>and This profound imbalance is the first major blow to

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<v Speaker 2>the classical theory, because if the black hole is built

461
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<v Speaker 2>from the remnants of dead stars, where are the rest

462
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<v Speaker 2>of the stars exactly?

463
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<v Speaker 3>A stellar population large enough to produce enough dead seeds

464
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<v Speaker 3>to merge into a fifty million solar mass black hole

465
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<v Speaker 3>should still be there orbiting around it. The galaxy should

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<v Speaker 3>outweigh the black hole by orders of magnitude.

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<v Speaker 2>And the mystery deepens when we turn our attention back

468
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<v Speaker 2>to that wispy halo of gas. The IFU didn't just

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<v Speaker 2>measure the velocity of gas, it measured the chemistry. If

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<v Speaker 2>there was a massive population of stars that lived, died,

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<v Speaker 2>and fed this black hole, there should be chemical evidence

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<v Speaker 2>left behind in the surrounding gas.

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<v Speaker 3>And here we need to talk about metallicity. The term

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<v Speaker 3>metal in astrophysics is frankly confusing for anyone who took

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<v Speaker 3>high school chemistry.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I remember being so confused by this at first.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an amusing quirk of the field. To a chemist,

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<v Speaker 3>a metal is a specific type of element with metallic bonds,

479
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<v Speaker 3>like iron, copper, or gold. Oxygen is certainly not a metal.

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<v Speaker 3>Neon is a noble gas, not a metal, but to

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<v Speaker 3>an astronomer, the periodic table is much much simpler. There

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<v Speaker 3>was hydrogen, there is helium, and absolutely everything else on

483
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<v Speaker 3>the periodic table is thrown into a single bucket labeled.

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<v Speaker 2>Metals, which seems lazy honestly, why do they do that?

485
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<v Speaker 3>Because of the Big Bang. In the first few minutes

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<v Speaker 3>after the universe was born, the energy was so intense

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<v Speaker 3>that subatomic particles fused together to create the very first atoms. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>but the universe was expanding and cooling rapidly. By the

489
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<v Speaker 3>time things cooled down enough for fusion to stop, the

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<v Speaker 3>universe had only managed to forge two elements, hydrogen and helium,

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<v Speaker 3>With just a microscopic dusting of lithium. That was it.

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<v Speaker 3>That was it. The entire universe was a pristine, chemically

493
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<v Speaker 3>boring cloud of hydrogen and helium.

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<v Speaker 2>So the primordial universe had zero metals, no oxygen, no carbon,

495
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<v Speaker 2>no iron, no.

496
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<v Speaker 3>Silicon exactly, So where did all the complex elements come from?

497
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<v Speaker 3>Did the carbon in our DNA, or the calcium in

498
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<v Speaker 3>our bones, or the oxygen in our atmosphere originate?

499
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<v Speaker 2>It were forged inside stars?

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<v Speaker 3>It refords Inside stars.

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<v Speaker 2>A star is fundamentally a nuclear fusion reactor. The crushing

502
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<v Speaker 2>gravity of the star pushes inward, squeezing hydrogen atoms together

503
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<v Speaker 2>so tightly that they fuse into helium. This releases energy,

504
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<v Speaker 2>which pushes outward, keeping the star stable.

505
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<v Speaker 3>But eventually a massive star runs out of hydrogen in

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<v Speaker 3>its core. Gravity starts to win, crushing the core even tighter,

507
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<v Speaker 3>raising the temperature even higher. And then what Now it's

508
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<v Speaker 3>hot enough to take that helium and fuse it into carbon.

509
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<v Speaker 3>Then the carbon fuses into oxygen, then neon, silicon, all

510
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<v Speaker 3>the way up to iron. The star becomes an onion,

511
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<v Speaker 3>with layers of progressively heavier elements being forged in the

512
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<v Speaker 3>crushing heat of the core.

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<v Speaker 2>But those elements are locked inside the star. How do

514
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<v Speaker 2>they get out into the gas clouds of the galaxy.

515
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<v Speaker 3>When a massive star reaches iron, the fusion process stops

516
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<v Speaker 3>releasing energy. It actually absorbs energy. Oh that's bad, very bad.

517
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<v Speaker 3>The outward pressure disappears, and in a fraction of a second,

518
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<v Speaker 3>the entire star collapses inward. The core rebounds in an

519
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<v Speaker 3>unimaginably violent explosion called a supernova boom boom. That explosion

520
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<v Speaker 3>tears the star apart, violently, scattering all those newly forged

521
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<v Speaker 3>heavy elements, the metals out into the surrounding interstellar gas.

522
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<v Speaker 2>It pollutes the environment with heavy elements, its stellar debris.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, so when astronomers look at a gas cloud in

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<v Speaker 3>our modern Milky Way, they see a high metallicity. They

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<v Speaker 3>see lots of oxygen, carbon, and iron mixed in with

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<v Speaker 3>the hydrogen. That high metallicity tells them that countless generations

527
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<v Speaker 3>of stars have lived, burned, and exploded in this neighborhood

528
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<v Speaker 3>over billions of years. The gas is rich with the

529
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<v Speaker 3>ashes of dead stars.

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<v Speaker 2>Which brings us back to the little red dot. The

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<v Speaker 2>James Webb Space Telescope looked at the spectrum of the

532
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<v Speaker 2>gas swirling around this fifty million solar mass black hole.

533
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<v Speaker 2>It did If the classical model is right and this

534
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<v Speaker 2>black hole was built from the collapsing remnant of massive stars,

535
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<v Speaker 2>the surrounding gas should be choked with the heavy elements

536
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<v Speaker 2>blown off by all those supernovas.

537
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<v Speaker 3>But the data showed almost nothing. Nothing. The composition maps

538
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<v Speaker 3>revealed that the gas in QSO one is almost entirely

539
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<v Speaker 3>pure hydrogen and helium. The metallicity is incredibly low. To

540
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<v Speaker 3>put a number on it, the gas around QSO one

541
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<v Speaker 3>has less than point five percent of the metallicity we

542
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<v Speaker 3>see in our own.

543
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<v Speaker 2>Sun less than half a percent. It's virtually pristine.

544
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<v Speaker 3>It is one of the most chemically unpolluted galactic environments

545
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<v Speaker 3>ever measured. The complete lack of heavy elements is the

546
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<v Speaker 3>definitive smoking gun.

547
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<v Speaker 2>Let's put the puzzle pieces together here, because the picture

548
00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:39.960
<v Speaker 2>it creates is undeniable. Puzzle Piece one, we have a

549
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<v Speaker 2>colossal black hole, weighed directly by tracking the Caplearian motion

550
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<v Speaker 2>of the gas. Puzzle piece two. The mass ratio is

551
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<v Speaker 2>completely lopsided. The black hole dominates the environment, meaning there's

552
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<v Speaker 2>no massive galaxy of stars hiding in the dark exactly.

553
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<v Speaker 2>Puzzle piece three. The gas that is there is pristine

554
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<v Speaker 2>hydrogen and helium, proving that no massive generations of stars

555
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<v Speaker 2>have lived and died here to create stellar debris.

556
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<v Speaker 3>The conclusion is inescapable. The black hole did not form

557
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<v Speaker 3>from stars.

558
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<v Speaker 2>The bricks do not exist, yet the skyscraper is standing.

559
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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the classical model of gradual accretion based growth from

560
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<v Speaker 3>stellar seeds simply cannot explain this object.

561
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<v Speaker 2>So if it didn't come from dead stars, and it

562
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<v Speaker 2>couldn't have grown slowly over billions of year because of

563
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<v Speaker 2>the Eddington limit we talked about earlier. We are left

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<v Speaker 2>with a massive void in our understanding. We really are

565
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<v Speaker 2>How does a fifty million solar mass monster just pop

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<v Speaker 2>into existence seven hundred million years after the universe begins.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this discovery has forced astrophysicists to dusk off theoretical

568
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<v Speaker 3>models that until now were largely considered mathematical curiosities fringe theories. Basically, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>if you can't build a black hole slowly, you have

570
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<v Speaker 3>to build it fast. You have to bypass the star

571
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<v Speaker 3>phase entirely. The data strongly points to one of two

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<v Speaker 3>primary mechanisms, primordial black holes or direct collapse black holes.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's take these one by one because we are

574
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<v Speaker 2>moving into the realm of extreme theoretical physics here. Definitely

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<v Speaker 2>primordial black holes. The name suggests they were there at

576
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<v Speaker 2>the very beginning. How early are we talking.

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<v Speaker 3>We are talking about the first literal fractions of a

578
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<v Speaker 3>second after the Big Bang. This mechanism doesn't require gas,

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<v Speaker 3>clouds or stars. It requires the sheer chaotic density of

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<v Speaker 3>the infant universe.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, picture the universe just microseconds after it popped into existence.

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<v Speaker 2>It isn't a vast empty vacuum. Yet it's incredibly hot,

583
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<v Speaker 2>incredibly dense, and incredibly small. All the energy and matter

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<v Speaker 2>that will ever exist is crammed into a microscopic space.

585
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<v Speaker 3>And in that ultra dense state, the distribution of matter

586
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<v Speaker 3>wasn't perfectly smooth because of quantum mechanics. There were microscopic fluctuations.

587
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<v Speaker 3>Some tiny microscopic patches of space were just slightly denser

588
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<v Speaker 3>than the patches next.

589
00:28:53.799 --> 00:28:56.799
<v Speaker 2>To them, quantum fluctuations like the static on an old

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<v Speaker 2>television screen.

591
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<v Speaker 3>Yes, And as the universe underwent inflation, a period of

592
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<v Speaker 3>unimaginably rapid expansion in the first fraction of a second,

593
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<v Speaker 3>those microscopic quantum fluctuations were stretched out to macroscopic sizes.

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<v Speaker 3>Who suddenly you have regions of the universe that are

595
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<v Speaker 3>significantly bentser than others.

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<v Speaker 2>And because the universe was still so compressed, that extra

597
00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:21.680
<v Speaker 2>density was enough to tip the scales. Gravity took hold

598
00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:24.720
<v Speaker 2>of those dense pockets and crushed them instantly.

599
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<v Speaker 3>Completely bypassing the need for matter to cool down form

600
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<v Speaker 3>gas clouds and ignited to stars. The sheer ambient pressure

601
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<v Speaker 3>of the early universe crushed these pockets directly into black holes.

602
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<v Speaker 3>That's wild These are often referred to as heavy seeds.

603
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<v Speaker 3>They didn't start with the mass of one star. They

604
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<v Speaker 3>could have been born with a mass of thousands or

605
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<v Speaker 3>even millions of suns right out of.

606
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<v Speaker 2>The gate, born big. They never had a childhood. They

607
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<v Speaker 2>just appeared as massive gravitational sinkholes in the fabric of

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<v Speaker 2>the young universe. That is mind blowing, it is. But

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<v Speaker 2>there's a second option on the table, the direct collapse

610
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<v Speaker 2>black hole. This happens a little it later in the timeline,

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<v Speaker 2>right when the universe has actually cooled down enough to

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<v Speaker 2>form massive clouds of hydrogen gas.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, but to understand how a massive cloud directly collapses

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<v Speaker 3>into a black hole without forming stars, first we have

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<v Speaker 3>to understand why clouds usually form stars in the first place. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a thermodynamic battle between gravity and heat.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's break that down. You have a massive cloud of

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<v Speaker 2>primordial hydrogen gas floating in the early universe, millions of

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<v Speaker 2>times the mass of the Sun. Gravity is constantly pulling

620
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<v Speaker 2>all that gas inward, trying to crush it into a

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<v Speaker 2>single point.

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<v Speaker 3>But as gravity pulls the gas inward, the gas compresses,

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<v Speaker 3>and basic physics tells us that when you can press

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<v Speaker 3>a gas it heats up.

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<v Speaker 2>Think of a bicycle pump. When you push the plunger

626
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<v Speaker 2>down and compress the air, the metal barrel of the

627
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<v Speaker 2>pump gets physically hot in your hands.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly so as the giant gas cloud collapses, it gets

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<v Speaker 3>intensely hot. The heat generates thermal pressure, which pushes outward,

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<v Speaker 3>resisting gravity.

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<v Speaker 2>It bounces out right.

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<v Speaker 3>If the cloud stays hot, it cannot collapse further. It

633
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<v Speaker 3>becomes stable.

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<v Speaker 2>So how does a star ever form? If the heat

635
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<v Speaker 2>stops the collapse, you just have a hot cloud forever.

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<v Speaker 3>In order for gravity to win, the cloud has to

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<v Speaker 3>get rid of that heat. It has to tool down.

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<v Speaker 3>It does this by radiating energy out into space. In

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<v Speaker 3>the modern universe, the heavy elements, the dust and metals,

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<v Speaker 3>act as incredible cooling agents.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh interesting.

642
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<v Speaker 3>They absorb the kinetic energy of the gas and radiated

643
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<v Speaker 3>away is infrared light. Once the cloud cools down, the

644
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<v Speaker 3>thermal pressure drops, Gravity takes over again, and the giant

645
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:36.319
<v Speaker 3>cloud shatters and fragments into thousands of smaller, denser clumps.

646
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<v Speaker 2>And each of those smaller clumps continues to collapse until

647
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<v Speaker 2>the pressure ignites nuclear fusion, and boom, you get a

648
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<v Speaker 2>cluster of stars.

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<v Speaker 3>That is the normal path. But in the primordial universe,

650
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<v Speaker 3>as we established, there are no heavy elements to act

651
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<v Speaker 3>as coolants.

652
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:49.559
<v Speaker 2>No metals.

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<v Speaker 3>The only thing the cloud can use to cool itself

654
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<v Speaker 3>is molecular hydrogen two hydrogen atoms bonded together. Molecular hydrogen

655
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<v Speaker 3>is a very inefficient coolant, but it does work slowly.

656
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<v Speaker 3>It radiates heat away, allowing the cloud to fragment and

657
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<v Speaker 3>form the very first generation of stars.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so if the cloud fragments into stars, we don't

659
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<v Speaker 2>get our fifty million solar mass black hole. How do

660
00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:17.759
<v Speaker 2>we stop the fragmentation? How do we get the direct collapse?

661
00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:21.079
<v Speaker 3>We have to destroy the coolant. Oh, imagine a scenario

662
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<v Speaker 3>where one of these massive million solar mass gas clouds

663
00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:27.920
<v Speaker 3>is sitting in space, but nearby, maybe relatively close in

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<v Speaker 3>cosmic terms. A different gas cloud did successfully fragment and

665
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<v Speaker 3>form a massive cluster of the very first ultra bright,

666
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<v Speaker 3>super hot early stars.

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<v Speaker 2>Those early stars would be blasting the surrounding space with

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<v Speaker 2>intense ultraviolet.

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<v Speaker 3>Radiation, intense blistering UV light, and that UV light slams

670
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<v Speaker 3>into our pristine gas cloud. The radiation is so energetic

671
00:32:48.039 --> 00:32:50.960
<v Speaker 3>that it physically breaks the molecularhydrogen bonds apart.

672
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:51.960
<v Speaker 2>It tears them apart.

673
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:54.720
<v Speaker 3>It splits the molecules back into single hydrogen atoms. It

674
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<v Speaker 3>destroys the coolant precisely. Without molecular hydrogen, the massive cloud

675
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<v Speaker 3>cannot cool down. Because it cannot cool down, it cannot

676
00:33:03.079 --> 00:33:07.359
<v Speaker 3>fragment into smaller cumps. It stays as one massive, monolithic cloud,

677
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:10.920
<v Speaker 3>but it is still accumulating mass. More and more gas

678
00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:14.720
<v Speaker 3>is drawn in. The cloud gets heavier and heavier and heavier.

679
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<v Speaker 2>But the heat is still pushing back. It's a standoff.

680
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:20.160
<v Speaker 3>It is a standoff until it reaches a critical breaking point.

681
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<v Speaker 3>The mass of the cloud crosses a threshold where the

682
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<v Speaker 3>gravitational pull simply overwhelms the thermal pressure entirely. And then,

683
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<v Speaker 3>because it couldn't fragment, the entire million solar mass cloud

684
00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:35.799
<v Speaker 3>violently collapses all at once. It doesn't stop at the starface.

685
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<v Speaker 3>It crushes itself with such overwhelming force that it collapses

686
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<v Speaker 3>straight into a supermassive black hole direct collapse.

687
00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:44.839
<v Speaker 2>It skips the middle man. It goes from a cloud

688
00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:48.279
<v Speaker 2>of gas straight to a cosmic monster in one catastrophic event.

689
00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:52.079
<v Speaker 3>In either scenario, whether it was a primordial heavy seed

690
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:54.720
<v Speaker 3>born from the quantum foam of the Big Bang, or

691
00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:57.599
<v Speaker 3>a massive gas cloud directly collapsing under the glare of

692
00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:00.000
<v Speaker 3>neighboring stars. The conclusion is the same.

693
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:00.920
<v Speaker 2>They were born big.

694
00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:04.839
<v Speaker 3>These super massive black holes were born massive. They didn't

695
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:07.400
<v Speaker 3>grow up over billions of years. They arrived on the

696
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:09.119
<v Speaker 3>scene already fully formed.

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<v Speaker 2>And what's truly profound to me is that the researchers

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<v Speaker 2>looking at QSO one, they don't think this is a

699
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:18.320
<v Speaker 2>freak anomaly. The James Web Space Telescope is finding more

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00:34:18.360 --> 00:34:21.599
<v Speaker 2>of these little red dots scattered across the early universe.

701
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:23.280
<v Speaker 3>Yes, quite a few of them.

702
00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:25.559
<v Speaker 2>If this is a common occurrence, if this is a

703
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:29.719
<v Speaker 2>standard feature of the early cosmos, it completely flips our

704
00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:31.760
<v Speaker 2>understanding of how galaxies are built.

705
00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:35.440
<v Speaker 3>It really does. For a century, we assume the galaxies

706
00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:39.920
<v Speaker 3>formed first, the vast clouds of gas fragmented into stars.

707
00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:44.320
<v Speaker 3>The stars merged, they died, and eventually, over immense stretches

708
00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:47.079
<v Speaker 3>of time, a black hole formed in the center as

709
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:48.880
<v Speaker 3>a byproduct of the galaxy's evolution.

710
00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:50.400
<v Speaker 2>The galaxy built the black hole.

711
00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:52.800
<v Speaker 3>The galaxy built the black hole. But the data from

712
00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:55.079
<v Speaker 3>QSO one tells us the exact opposite.

713
00:34:55.159 --> 00:34:56.480
<v Speaker 2>The black hole forms first.

714
00:34:56.719 --> 00:35:00.159
<v Speaker 3>It is born massive, either as a heavy seed or

715
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:04.039
<v Speaker 3>a direct collapse. It sits there a naked gravitational anchor

716
00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:07.360
<v Speaker 3>in the dark, and because it is so massive, its

717
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:10.800
<v Speaker 3>immense gravity begins to draw in the surrounding gas from

718
00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:14.239
<v Speaker 3>the intergalactic medium. It pulls the raw materials.

719
00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:17.119
<v Speaker 2>Toward itself, and as that gas falls inward, swirling around

720
00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:20.239
<v Speaker 2>the black hole, it eventually cools and fragments in the

721
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:24.119
<v Speaker 2>outer reaches of the halo, finally forming the stars. The

722
00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:27.360
<v Speaker 2>black hole acts as the heavy gravitational anchor that forces

723
00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:30.639
<v Speaker 2>the galaxy to assemble around it. The black hole builds

724
00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:31.280
<v Speaker 2>the galaxy.

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00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:34.320
<v Speaker 3>It's incredible. Think back to the years before James Web launched,

726
00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:38.079
<v Speaker 3>when astronomers were looking at distant early quasars with less

727
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:42.199
<v Speaker 3>powerful telescopes. They saw the blinding light of these feeding monsters,

728
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:45.440
<v Speaker 3>and they used indirect measurements to estimate their mass.

729
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:46.639
<v Speaker 2>Oh I remember this.

730
00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:50.079
<v Speaker 3>And when those indirect measurements suggested black holes weighing billions

731
00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:52.639
<v Speaker 3>of solar masses existing just a few hundred million years

732
00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:55.039
<v Speaker 3>after the Big Bang, MANI theorists push back.

733
00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:57.039
<v Speaker 2>There was intense skepticism.

734
00:35:56.559 --> 00:36:00.000
<v Speaker 3>Right huge skepticism. The classical model said it was impossible,

735
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:03.440
<v Speaker 3>so the assumption was that the measurements were wrong. Theorists

736
00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:07.159
<v Speaker 3>argued that because we were extrapolating data from modern local

737
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:09.559
<v Speaker 3>black holes and applying it to the early universe, we

738
00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:11.639
<v Speaker 3>must be overestimating their mass.

739
00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:12.800
<v Speaker 2>That makes sense.

740
00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:15.920
<v Speaker 3>They assume the physics of feeding or the way light

741
00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:19.079
<v Speaker 3>escape the accretion disk must be fundamentally different in the

742
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:22.039
<v Speaker 3>infant universe, creating an illusion of massive weight.

743
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:27.159
<v Speaker 2>But the Caplearian motion data the tether Ball test proves

744
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:29.800
<v Speaker 2>that those early astronomers weren't crazy.

745
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:30.639
<v Speaker 3>No, they weren't.

746
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:34.280
<v Speaker 2>The indirect measurements weren't an illusion. We weighed the anchor

747
00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:38.280
<v Speaker 2>directly using pure gravity and velocity, and the massive weight

748
00:36:38.360 --> 00:36:41.639
<v Speaker 2>is real. It is a total vindication of the observations,

749
00:36:41.679 --> 00:36:44.800
<v Speaker 2>but it requires the complete destruction of the theoretical model.

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00:36:44.840 --> 00:36:48.119
<v Speaker 3>It is the ultimate triumph of observational astronomy. When the

751
00:36:48.199 --> 00:36:51.880
<v Speaker 3>data fundamentally contradicts the established theory, you don't throw out

752
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:54.639
<v Speaker 3>the data, you throw out the theory. The universe is

753
00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:56.960
<v Speaker 3>telling us how it works, and we just have to listen.

754
00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:00.480
<v Speaker 2>It is a phenomenal story of scientific discovery. Let's take

755
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:02.239
<v Speaker 2>a step back and look at the sheer scope of

756
00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:05.519
<v Speaker 2>what we've unpacked today. We started with a fundamental paradox,

757
00:37:05.559 --> 00:37:07.519
<v Speaker 2>a chicken and egg problem about the origins of the

758
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:10.639
<v Speaker 2>largest structures in the cosmos. We zoomed in on a

759
00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:13.760
<v Speaker 2>tiny speck of light, a little red dot that existed

760
00:37:13.800 --> 00:37:16.800
<v Speaker 2>when the universe was just a toddler a mirror seven

761
00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:18.639
<v Speaker 2>hundred million years old.

762
00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:21.760
<v Speaker 3>We saw how the immense gravity of Pandora's cluster warped

763
00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:26.000
<v Speaker 3>the very fabric of space, acting as a cosmic funhouse mirror.

764
00:37:26.320 --> 00:37:29.239
<v Speaker 3>To magnify that ancient light and send it across thirteen

765
00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:31.440
<v Speaker 3>billion light years to our mirrors.

766
00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:33.920
<v Speaker 2>And by slicing that magnified light into a three D

767
00:37:34.039 --> 00:37:37.079
<v Speaker 2>data cube, capturing the red shift and blue shift of

768
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:41.880
<v Speaker 2>glowing hydrogen, scientists mapped the perfect predictable couplarian rotation of

769
00:37:41.920 --> 00:37:43.280
<v Speaker 2>gas swirling around.

770
00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:45.039
<v Speaker 3>An invisible center the Tetherbol test.

771
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:47.440
<v Speaker 2>They used the tether Boll test to directly weigh an

772
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:50.880
<v Speaker 2>object from the dawn of time, revealing a fifty million

773
00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:52.119
<v Speaker 2>solar mass titan.

774
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:55.440
<v Speaker 3>A titan that completely dominates its environment, making up over

775
00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:58.679
<v Speaker 3>two thirds of the total mass, surrounded by pristine gas

776
00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:01.239
<v Speaker 3>that shows absolutely no tra of the heavy elements that

777
00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:03.239
<v Speaker 3>would indicate a history of dying stars.

778
00:38:03.559 --> 00:38:07.079
<v Speaker 2>It is a skyscraper built without bricks. It proves that

779
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:10.920
<v Speaker 2>in the extreme conditions of the infant universe, black holes

780
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:15.639
<v Speaker 2>were born massive entirely bypassing the slow gradual evolution we

781
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:16.239
<v Speaker 2>see today.

782
00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:19.079
<v Speaker 3>We didn't just find a weird object. We watched a

783
00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:22.519
<v Speaker 3>foundational pillar of classical cosmology crumble.

784
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:25.480
<v Speaker 2>It forces us to rethink the sequence of events that

785
00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:28.800
<v Speaker 2>led to our own existence, which leaves us with a profound,

786
00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:32.119
<v Speaker 2>almost unsettling question for you to mull over, one that

787
00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:35.079
<v Speaker 2>the scientific community will be wrestling with for decades.

788
00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:36.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a big one.

789
00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:39.800
<v Speaker 2>If supermassive black holes formed first born from the quantum

790
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:43.280
<v Speaker 2>foam of the Big Bang or the sudden catastrophic collapse

791
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:46.079
<v Speaker 2>of primeval gas clouds, and if they acted as the

792
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:49.320
<v Speaker 2>fundamental anchors that pulled the surrounding universe together to.

793
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:53.360
<v Speaker 3>Forge stars, does that mean every galaxy we see, including

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00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:56.199
<v Speaker 3>our own Milky Way, the very galaxy that houses our

795
00:38:56.239 --> 00:38:57.480
<v Speaker 3>Solar System, our planet

796
00:38:57.679 --> 00:39:00.960
<v Speaker 2>And us, is everything around us just the beautiful, glittering

797
00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:04.480
<v Speaker 2>aftermath of a primordial monster born in the first chaotic

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<v Speaker 2>seconds of time.
