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<v Speaker 1>The following is a paid podcast. iHeartRadio's hosting of this

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<v Speaker 2>For cancer treatment. Most prefer effective, non invasive, well tolerated,

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Liederman is first in America, first in New York,

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<v Speaker 2>First for you with body radiosurgery. Doctor Liderman hits your

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<v Speaker 3>It's doctor Leederman with Carrie Stubbs, who sings and writes

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<v Speaker 4>No cutting, no bleeding, no hospitals. Day made me very happy.

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<v Speaker 4>Thirteen eighty four Broadway and thirty eight. If the address

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<v Speaker 3>For more information about innative cancer treatment, called doctor Leiderman

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<v Speaker 3>two and two choices, two and two choices, thirteen eighty

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<v Speaker 5>Welcome everybody.

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<v Speaker 6>It's the Radio Surgery Show with Doctor Gil Leiderman, MD,

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<v Speaker 6>New York's only Harvard trained triple Board certified radiation oncologist

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<v Speaker 6>who brings you the latest cancer treatment news, interviewing world

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<v Speaker 6>renowned cancer experts, delving to special cases, and of course

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<v Speaker 6>answering your questions. I'm Rob Redstone, broadcasting from the WR

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<v Speaker 6>Studios in the heart of New York City, and now

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<v Speaker 6>please welcome doctor Leaderman.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Rob, thank you no, and thank you for

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<v Speaker 3>tuning in today and every day, every day we learn together.

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<v Speaker 3>Every day we're hopefully smarter and more aware of our

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<v Speaker 3>bodies and more aware of options that may be hidden

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<v Speaker 3>from you elsewhere. And I see patients every day, and

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<v Speaker 3>I know that options are being excluded from patients understanding

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<v Speaker 3>in many places. That's why we're on the radio to

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<v Speaker 3>educate and to inform and to give you better care

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<v Speaker 3>and to make you hopefully a radio listener who saves lives.

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<v Speaker 3>Listeners do save lives because listeners learn so much. My

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<v Speaker 3>name is doctor Liederman. I'll introduce myself in a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit more detail, but I am a board certified cancer

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<v Speaker 3>doctor here for you, working in New York for nearly

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<v Speaker 3>forty years, so lots of experience, being a doctor for

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<v Speaker 3>almost fifty years. I want to talk about a man

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<v Speaker 3>who came from Saint Petersburg. He came from Saint Petersburg

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<v Speaker 3>Soviet Union forty years ago when it was when there

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<v Speaker 3>was a Soviet Union. And he's a productive citizen, a

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<v Speaker 3>watchmaker and a jeweler. And now he's about seventy five

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<v Speaker 3>years old and he had some abdominal pain. Went to

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<v Speaker 3>the doctor. Eventually he got a cat scan. Eventually he

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<v Speaker 3>got a buyap. He was found out pancreas cancer. So

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<v Speaker 3>pancreas cancer is one of the more common cancers. It's

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<v Speaker 3>one of the more common killers of cancers, one of

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<v Speaker 3>the more common causes of cancer death. An he went

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<v Speaker 3>elsewhere and doctor Wagner to do surgery. And we know

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<v Speaker 3>that number one, this is a tumor wrapped around them

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<v Speaker 3>vessels and intestine would make it very very hard to operate.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it would be impossible and they'd be most

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<v Speaker 3>likely threatening his life just to make it through that surgery.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's any way they could cut out the

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<v Speaker 3>tumor that's wrapped around vessels and around the dwardenem. But

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<v Speaker 3>they offered it. That's what they encouraged sad to say.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't talk to him about anything else and that's

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<v Speaker 3>when he came here and we saw him. We staged

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<v Speaker 3>him up. There was no pet scan elsewhere. We got

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<v Speaker 3>cancer markers. His cancer marker. There's blood tests to give

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<v Speaker 3>you an indication of the activity of the cancer. His

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<v Speaker 3>CAA nineteen to nine, which is a cancer marker. Commonly,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not always you in medicine, there's nothing always. But

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<v Speaker 3>his CAA ninety nine was fifteen hundred and seventy six.

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<v Speaker 3>Normal is about thirty five. So it's very rapidly a

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<v Speaker 3>growing tumor, very aggressive tumor with a high CAA ninety

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<v Speaker 3>nine and a large tumor wrapped around the major structures.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't think that he could have had surgery successfully.

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<v Speaker 3>He could have had surgery. The surgery could have opened

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<v Speaker 3>up his abdomen and then said in the old days

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<v Speaker 3>they called it a peak and shrieked. They'd surgery would

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<v Speaker 3>peak and then they'd shriek and say ah, and then

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<v Speaker 3>close up the patient and it would be a waste

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<v Speaker 3>for everybody, well not exactly a waste for the surgeon

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<v Speaker 3>who gets paid, as if he's done the surgery, or

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<v Speaker 3>the are she there's she's also, or the hospital. It

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<v Speaker 3>can be thousands, tens of thousands of dollars to do that,

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<v Speaker 3>and to take a man who's a little bit fragile

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<v Speaker 3>at seventy five and put him through an unnecessary, unuseful,

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<v Speaker 3>unproductive surgery, in my view, is just ridiculous. And so

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<v Speaker 3>we met and we talked about all the options. And

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<v Speaker 3>here at Radio New York at thirteen eighty four Broadway,

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<v Speaker 3>we talk about all the options. We don't talk about

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<v Speaker 3>one thing. We're not here to sell anything. It seems

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<v Speaker 3>like the surgeon was hot to sell him on surgery

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<v Speaker 3>and pushing him for surgery, and we don't do that here.

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<v Speaker 3>We talk about all the options. In fact, you'll get

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<v Speaker 3>literature in the mail if you call us at two

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<v Speaker 3>and two Choices, we'll send you a package and you'll

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<v Speaker 3>see all the options over there, whether it's chemo or ammunotherapy,

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<v Speaker 3>or surgery or various forms of radiation or multipodality therapy

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<v Speaker 3>or no therapy. We talk about all the options, even hospice,

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<v Speaker 3>which is no treatment. It's a medical cost, but there's

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<v Speaker 3>no real treatment as far as stopping the cancer. And

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<v Speaker 3>so he came with us and he just finished the treatment,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was incredible. He had no side effects. He

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<v Speaker 3>had a large pancreas cancer. We treated him with the

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<v Speaker 3>stereotactic radio surgery frame. I think we're the only one.

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<v Speaker 3>We're the first in America doing body radio surgery, first

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<v Speaker 3>one in the Western hemisphere, first one of course in

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<v Speaker 3>New York with stereotactic body radio surgery for pancers, cancers

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<v Speaker 3>and lung cancers, and liver cancers, and prostate and bladder,

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<v Speaker 3>you name it. So this man just finished treatment and

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<v Speaker 3>he had a few treatments, and it's incredible. He's a

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<v Speaker 3>quiet man, thoughtful man, loving man. Here every day his

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<v Speaker 3>wife and his daughter, and his daughter was out there

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<v Speaker 3>and she would never leave his side. She'd buy him

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<v Speaker 3>all the time, which was incredible. It's incredible compared to

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<v Speaker 3>some people come with nobody, which is really sad. So

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<v Speaker 3>here had a very supportive family. And he finished up

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<v Speaker 3>the treatment and we got cancer markers and already on

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<v Speaker 3>the last day of treatment, his CAA ninety nine went

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<v Speaker 3>from fifteen hundred. It's already down by eighty percent. It's

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<v Speaker 3>down by eighty percent, it's down to three hundred, not

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<v Speaker 3>even having finished the last treatment. We did a blood

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<v Speaker 3>test is to show because the daughter was so worried

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<v Speaker 3>about her beloved father, so they wanted a sign that

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<v Speaker 3>things were working, and we got imaging. Of course during

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<v Speaker 3>the course of treatment, and imaging also showed the tumor

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<v Speaker 3>was shrinking. So the tumor was shrinking and the cancer

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<v Speaker 3>marker is getting better. Cancer markers a biologic test. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a protein in the blood system. It's not anything surgical.

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<v Speaker 3>We just do a simple blood test and tell you

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<v Speaker 3>and I can tell you that so many places do

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<v Speaker 3>not do cancer markers. And why do you want a

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<v Speaker 3>cancer marker. Well, it's like looking at a thermometer when

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<v Speaker 3>you go out of your house. If you want to

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<v Speaker 3>know if it's hot or cold, if it's twenty degrees

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<v Speaker 3>or forty degrees or eighty degrees. Well, cancer market gives

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<v Speaker 3>you an idea what's happening to the cancer, so you

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<v Speaker 3>can say, hey, his family. Then the family understood very well.

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<v Speaker 3>It was fifteen hundred and seventy six when they started,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's now reduced by eighty percent. Well that's great.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a great sign that the treatment's working. And radiosort

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<v Speaker 3>of usually works. In fact, we've treated thousands of pancreas cancers.

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<v Speaker 3>We've treated forty thousand patients altogether, probably more than any

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<v Speaker 3>other single doctor, and our success is very high to

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<v Speaker 3>the pancreas where we attack the cancer, approximately about ninety percent.

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<v Speaker 3>So this man actually gained weight. He had advanced pancreas cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>He gained weight during treatment, his cancer markt went down.

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<v Speaker 3>He's doing all the things, he's eating and walking and

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<v Speaker 3>carrying on and doing all the things he wants to do,

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<v Speaker 3>and totally unencumbered by the treatment, and totally in my view,

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<v Speaker 3>benefited by the treatment because he had no side effects

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<v Speaker 3>and his cancer is already shrunk by eighty percent by

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<v Speaker 3>cancer markers. And of course we'll get imaging and physical

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<v Speaker 3>exams on a regular basis to able to tell him

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<v Speaker 3>for the rest of his life, hopefully for the next

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<v Speaker 3>twenty fifty years whatever. And this is the work we

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<v Speaker 3>do every day at Radiosuit in New York. When the

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<v Speaker 3>surgeon at elsewhere in general didn't tell him about any options.

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<v Speaker 3>And I often tell people, hey, you often will learn

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<v Speaker 3>things here that you were never told about or were

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<v Speaker 3>hidden from you elsewhere. And maybe someone believes me, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>they don't. But this man learned things that he was

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<v Speaker 3>never told about elsewhere where. He liked the idea of

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<v Speaker 3>our treatment, he liked our experience, he liked our examples,

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<v Speaker 3>he liked our literature, liked our DVD. And this is

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<v Speaker 3>the work we do. And by the way, we have

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<v Speaker 3>that for you. Also, you can call us even now

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<v Speaker 3>or tonight, or whenever you want or not want. At

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<v Speaker 3>two one two choices, two one two choices. You can

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<v Speaker 3>call us and get that booklet and DVD. We have

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<v Speaker 3>different booklets about skin cancers and breast cancers, and lung

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<v Speaker 3>cancers and prostate cancers. So tell us what you want

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<v Speaker 3>information about. And also there's different DVDs. And if you

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to call, if your bachelorbo call, you can

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<v Speaker 3>also come in. Many people come into our office. We're

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<v Speaker 3>in the heart of New York City, so it's easy

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<v Speaker 3>to get to us. All the subways and buses and

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<v Speaker 3>trains come right to our neighborhood. Half a million people

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<v Speaker 3>are in our neighborhood every day. So you can walk

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<v Speaker 3>in our door and get a package of information for

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<v Speaker 3>yourself and maybe for the loved one who really needs it.

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<v Speaker 3>If it's not you or your neighbor or your friend

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<v Speaker 3>what you've learned here on the radio every day here

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<v Speaker 3>with doctor Liederman. I was talking a man I treated

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<v Speaker 3>ten years ago, a sixty two year old man from Jamaica.

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<v Speaker 3>And we know that who's got the highest risk rates

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<v Speaker 3>of prostate cancer. Well, Black men. Family history, if your

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<v Speaker 3>dad or brotherh had prostate cancer, that increases rate tremendously,

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<v Speaker 3>that have But any man can develop prostate cancer. In fact,

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<v Speaker 3>the youngest person ever to die of prostate cancer is

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<v Speaker 3>And so many men think it can't happen to them.

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<v Speaker 3>God will never take me off this earth. Well, I

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<v Speaker 3>when they get a cancer, God forbid, they get a cancer,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's hard for them to accept it. They just

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<v Speaker 3>think they're so invincible, and prostate cancers you don't have

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<v Speaker 3>to feel something. So many people think you have to

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<v Speaker 3>feel something, you have to have bleeding, you have to

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<v Speaker 3>lose fifty pounds, or you have to have a lump

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<v Speaker 3>somewhere or paint somewhere. Well, it doesn't. It's not like

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<v Speaker 3>that at all. You can have a cancer. Imagine you

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<v Speaker 3>or your breast, or your prostate, or your pancreas or

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<v Speaker 3>you cannot know it. And that's what's so insiduous about

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<v Speaker 3>diagnosis of cancer, early cancer. And we know death rates

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<v Speaker 3>are decreasing in people who get screening, so screening is

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<v Speaker 3>so important. So this man came to me. He's Jamaican

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<v Speaker 3>born sixty two years old. He's married with two kids.

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<v Speaker 3>He came with his wife as a loving family, and

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<v Speaker 3>he was found to have a prostate cancer gleas in seven.

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<v Speaker 3>Gleason is how the cancer looks under the microscope. As

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<v Speaker 3>PSA was five point one on physical exam. He had

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<v Speaker 3>a large prostate. He had a cat skin and bone scan.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't get other tests that we prefer, such as

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<v Speaker 3>MRI in PET scan. His way it was one sixty

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<v Speaker 3>eight two years before it was one seventy eighty six

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<v Speaker 3>foot two. It was on no medications, he had no allergies,

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<v Speaker 3>he had only surgery for hernia in the past. And well,

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<v Speaker 3>he came to me in ten years ago. He heard

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<v Speaker 3>what he heard, and he heard that our success rate

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<v Speaker 3>for glease in seven cancer is ninety percent. With robotic

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<v Speaker 3>or open surgery, it's sixty percent. With standard radiation it's

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<v Speaker 3>sixty percent. So our results are fifty percent better than

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<v Speaker 3>with radiation elsewhere, or surgery, radical surgery or robotic surgery.

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<v Speaker 3>And he liked the idea of avoiding the hospitals and

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<v Speaker 3>avoiding big surgeries. And he liked the idea of a

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<v Speaker 3>place that provides data in comparison information. Most places do

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<v Speaker 3>not show you their data. In fact, they have no data.

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<v Speaker 3>And my knowledge, having treated nine thousand men with prostate cancer,

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<v Speaker 3>probably one of the largest experience by a say doctor,

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<v Speaker 3>I've never seen a patient get information printed information elsewhere

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<v Speaker 3>about their success or comparison data except here. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's very reassuring for a man to see what

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<v Speaker 3>our results are. It's a lot of a work, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>and we provide that to the patient because we think

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<v Speaker 3>the patient deserves that. So ten years ago, this man

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<v Speaker 3>came to me with a glease in seven cancer PSA

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<v Speaker 3>five point one. He didn't want to be impotent from

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<v Speaker 3>radical surgery, which happens about ninety seven percent of time.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't want to be leaking urine, which happens up

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<v Speaker 3>to eighty percent of time. You didn't want to have

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<v Speaker 3>his vital organ shortened, which happens commonly with surgery because

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<v Speaker 3>when a plumber cuts out a segment of a pipe,

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<v Speaker 3>they have to bring the ends of the pipe together

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<v Speaker 3>to make that pipe work well. With surgery and the prostate,

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<v Speaker 3>the surgery removes the prostate and the urethral the urethere

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<v Speaker 3>is a tube that goes through the PROSTATECT that carries urine.

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<v Speaker 3>So when the surgeon cuts from the prostate and removes

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<v Speaker 3>the prostate, he shortens the penis and damages those little

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<v Speaker 3>nerves because sexual impotence and leakage of the urine, and

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<v Speaker 3>not everyone survives radical surgery. So this man ten years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>at age sixty two, came to us, trusted us, and

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<v Speaker 3>had treatment, and now ten years later his PSA is zero,

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<v Speaker 3>and I can tell you that he's very happy and

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<v Speaker 3>amvatory and doing all the things, and he's sexually active

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<v Speaker 3>and his urine is completely controlled. And this is how

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<v Speaker 3>our patients want to be who have treatment. In fact,

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<v Speaker 3>I think everyone wants to be this way. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>that with us, most of our patients are this way.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's high success and lots of experience. They have

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<v Speaker 3>lots of data to show you. We have booklets and

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<v Speaker 3>DVDs to send you if you want, you can call

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<v Speaker 3>us even now. Two and two choices two and two.

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<v Speaker 3>Choices two and two means New York City, and choices

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<v Speaker 3>means that you do have choices. Just like the man

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<v Speaker 3>who had the pancreast cancer, they want to do surgery elsewhere,

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<v Speaker 3>which we know would have been a disaster. This man elsewhere,

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<v Speaker 3>they want to do surgery all and would have most

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<v Speaker 3>likely harmed his sexual life and urinary life and his

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<v Speaker 3>vital organ and not been as successful as our treatment.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why so many people with cancer or the possibility

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<v Speaker 3>of cancer, or who come will get checked out come here.

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<v Speaker 3>See doctor Liederman, thirteen eighty four Broadway Broadway in thirty

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<v Speaker 3>eighth Street in the heart of New York City, where

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<v Speaker 3>we accept most insurances Medicare, Medicaid. My name is doctor Liederman.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 7>Many people with cancer come to doctor Liederman when surgery

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<v Speaker 7>didn't help and toxic chemo stopped working. Many come in pain.

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<v Speaker 7>Many people with cancer come to doctor Liederman when their

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<v Speaker 7>caregiver has no more care to offer. Doctor Liederman bringing

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<v Speaker 7>innovative cancer care for decades. When the next cancer drug

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<v Speaker 7>is not as promised, when surgery was to fail to pass,

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<v Speaker 7>we may be able to offer you new cancer treatment options.

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<v Speaker 7>We treat new and recurrent cancers small or large, most

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<v Speaker 7>anywhere in the body, even if prior chemo, radiation or

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<v Speaker 7>so didn't work. Call doctor Liederman two and two choices

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<v Speaker 7>two and two choices for a free booklet DVD thirty

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<v Speaker 7>eighth and Broadway. Most insurances Medicare, Medicaid accepted. Harvard Trained,

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<v Speaker 7>Triple Board certified Doctor Liederman two and two choices, two

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<v Speaker 7>and two choices for innovative cancer treatment. Best is to

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<v Speaker 7>meet doctor Liederman in person. Call two and two choices

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<v Speaker 7>two and two choices.

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<v Speaker 3>It's doctor Liederman with guy talking about skin cancer treatment options.

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<v Speaker 5>You treated me.

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<v Speaker 8>I had basil cell onto my cheek. A buddy of

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<v Speaker 8>mine went through the same thing that looked like they

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<v Speaker 8>went out of him with a melon baller. This was

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<v Speaker 8>on my face. I don't want any caring. I think

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<v Speaker 8>I'm kind of handsome. I wanted to keep it that way.

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<v Speaker 3>So you are hats and we're going to Olympics. Usually

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<v Speaker 3>in America there's three million skin cancers a year. Ninety

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<v Speaker 3>nine percent of people are let down the primrose path

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<v Speaker 3>to have radical hoos surgery for their skin cancer. Why

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<v Speaker 3>are you different.

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<v Speaker 8>From hearing what you report? You know, hey, you don't

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<v Speaker 8>need to get radical deforming. Come and see what we

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<v Speaker 8>could do. I have a lot of trust in what

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<v Speaker 3>If Miss America comes up to right now, what would

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<v Speaker 3>you think about the results of your skin.

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<v Speaker 8>She would be able to keep your hands off. There

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<v Speaker 8>is zero indication it was ever there. You know, I

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<v Speaker 8>don't know that I got the chance to say, hey, thanks,

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<v Speaker 8>doctor Leadman. I tell anybody who's going down the same path.

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<v Speaker 8>Doctor Leederman did the absolute perfect thing. That's what you

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<v Speaker 3>Any regrets, not at all, called doctor Liederman at two

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<v Speaker 3>and two Choices, thirteen eighty four Broadway. Most insurances Medicare

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<v Speaker 6>Welcome back to the Radio Surgery Hour. This is Rob

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<v Speaker 6>Redstone here with doctor Gil Leiderman at the WR Studios

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<v Speaker 6>in the hearts of New York City, were just a

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<v Speaker 6>few steps from the radio surgery in New York Cancer

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<v Speaker 6>Treatment Center on Broadway in thirty eighth Street. Doctor Liederman,

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<v Speaker 6>the leading cancer expert, treats prostate cancer not invasively. He

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<v Speaker 6>was the first in New York with fractionated brain radio surgery,

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<v Speaker 6>and he's the first in America and in the Western

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<v Speaker 6>Hemisphere with body radio surgery. You can also call doctor

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<v Speaker 6>Liderman at two and two Choices for a free informative

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<v Speaker 6>booklet and DVD. Hey doctor Leiderman, we're back.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, we're back. We talk. This beautiful, wonderful woman came

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<v Speaker 3>to me first ten years ago. She had abdominal pain.

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<v Speaker 3>She was seventy six years old. She had abdominal pain.

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<v Speaker 3>She went to one of the big hospitals in New

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<v Speaker 3>York City. She had cat scan and they found a

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<v Speaker 3>mass in the liver. The surgeons wanted to cut on

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<v Speaker 3>her sounds like a recurring nightmare theme. The surgeons who

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<v Speaker 3>want to cut, well, yeah, and this was one of

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<v Speaker 3>the big hospitals. She had pain. She weighed one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and ten pounds. She was five foot one for a

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<v Speaker 3>small woman. She started in the military for thirty years

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<v Speaker 3>and her biopsy showed in a paddle cellular cancer, so

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<v Speaker 3>she had a primary cancer of the liver. There's basically

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<v Speaker 3>two kinds of cancers that you find in liver, those

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<v Speaker 3>that started a liver, which are rarer, and those that

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<v Speaker 3>spread to liver, like breast cancer and lung cancer and

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<v Speaker 3>pancras cancer and colon cancer that spread to the liver

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<v Speaker 3>because a liver gets lots of blood supply and the

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<v Speaker 3>cancer cells are floating around in the blood supply. So

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<v Speaker 3>she had a primary cancer of the liver. Her her

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<v Speaker 3>paddles cellular cancer. The surgeons were hot to give her

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<v Speaker 3>a surgery. They were giving it to her. They were

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<v Speaker 3>I guess selling it to her or someone was paying

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<v Speaker 3>for it. And she just didn't want the idea at

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<v Speaker 3>age seventy six to have surgery to remove part of

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<v Speaker 3>her liver. And she had been told about the different things,

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<v Speaker 3>but the surgeon never told her about the options. Again,

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<v Speaker 3>we talk about all the options here. We're not afraid

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about options. I think when we talk about options,

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<v Speaker 3>people understand we're trying to educate them and not sell

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<v Speaker 3>them something. We're not trying to sell anything to anybody.

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<v Speaker 3>You can come in, you can learn, you can walk out,

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<v Speaker 3>no problem. It's your business. We believe you are the

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<v Speaker 3>president of the United States of your body. So she

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<v Speaker 3>came ten years ago with this mass and the livers

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<v Speaker 3>biopsy proven and paddle cite or cancer said high cancer

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<v Speaker 3>markers which are in the hundreds. Again, cancer markers give

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<v Speaker 3>you an idea of how active the cancer is. And

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<v Speaker 3>we treated her just with a few treatments of radiosurgery.

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<v Speaker 3>Radiosurgery is not surgery. It's a misnomer. Was named by

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<v Speaker 3>a surgeon in Sweden. The one to say the radiation

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<v Speaker 3>beam would be like surgery to cut, but there's no cutting,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no bleeding, there's no anesthesias, sending invisible beams to

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<v Speaker 3>attack the cancer anywhere in the body, whether it's in

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<v Speaker 3>the brain or the skin, or the liver or the

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<v Speaker 3>lung or the esophagus, or the gotacologic sites or ovary

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<v Speaker 3>or prostate or pancreas or bladder or bone or lymph nodes.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a whole list if you get our book that

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<v Speaker 3>you'll see a list of I don't know more than

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred kinds of cancers that we commonly treat. So

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<v Speaker 3>we treated her ten years ago, ten years ago, and

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<v Speaker 3>she's been cancer free ever since. So it tells you

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<v Speaker 3>about the durability. Some people think all radiation just is

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<v Speaker 3>a temper a measure. No, for most people where we

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<v Speaker 3>aim to beam, it's a permanent treatment for that cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>So this woman ten years ago was treated with stereotactic

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<v Speaker 3>body radio surgery and the body radio surgery frame from

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<v Speaker 3>the doctor first performed and has done the most body

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<v Speaker 3>radio surgery in America for the longest period of time

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<v Speaker 3>here in New York. And she remains cancer free, and

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<v Speaker 3>she's happy and grateful, and I'm grateful for her. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>grateful for her trust. She came with her daughter. She

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<v Speaker 3>has a loving daughter who usually doesn't come with her.

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<v Speaker 3>So the daughter came, the mother came and went over

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<v Speaker 3>to the data and this is what we do. And

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<v Speaker 3>we of course get new imaging and new blood tests

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure everything is a okay on a regular basis.

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<v Speaker 3>And most people come and ask me things like that,

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<v Speaker 3>doctor Liederman, okay, you treat me. But then what happens?

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<v Speaker 3>What happens as if I'm running away, I'm running out

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<v Speaker 3>of town. Well, I've been in town for forty years.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been a doctor for fifty years. I'm not planning

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<v Speaker 3>to run away anywhere. Here at thirteen eighty four Broadway,

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<v Speaker 3>we're except most insurances, Medicare and Medicaid. One thing I

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<v Speaker 3>want to tell you, by the way, is that we're

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<v Speaker 3>live on the radio, and that means you can call

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<v Speaker 3>us at one eight hundred three two one zero seven

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<v Speaker 3>ten and call with your medical questions. I don't have

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<v Speaker 3>to be bastrol. We're here until noon every Sunday and

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<v Speaker 3>other hours too, are actually on the radio many times

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<v Speaker 3>every day. One eight hundred three two one zero seven ten.

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<v Speaker 3>One eight hundred three two one zero seven ten. Call

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<v Speaker 3>Noah will pick up the phone. Call and Noah will

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<v Speaker 3>put your call through, and you don't have to be

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<v Speaker 3>bashful or shamed. One eight hundred three two one zero

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<v Speaker 3>seven ten, live until noon. I should tell you one

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<v Speaker 3>other secret, that is today Sunday, we're also here from

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<v Speaker 3>one to two pm. Where every night on WR from

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<v Speaker 3>midnight to one am, and lots of people like to

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<v Speaker 3>go to sleep with doctor Liederman and wake up with

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<v Speaker 3>doctor Liederman and work with doctor Liederman. Why because well,

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<v Speaker 3>this this program is broadcast worldwide. You can get on

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<v Speaker 3>your phone or computer. I have people. Had one man

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<v Speaker 3>who came from Shanghai, China. He told me he'd be

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<v Speaker 3>under the stairwell at work listening to his smartphone and

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<v Speaker 3>he had esophagio cancer and they were giving him water,

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<v Speaker 3>sailing water for esophageo cancer. He came like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>like the end of December one year, and yeah, this

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<v Speaker 3>is esophagio cancer. You couldn't swallow. And in China they

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<v Speaker 3>were giving him only salt water and he couldn't take it.

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<v Speaker 3>He was he couldn't eat. He esphagus totally blocked up.

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<v Speaker 3>And he said, doctor Lee might have to get out

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<v Speaker 3>of here for my visa by December thirty first that year,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever year that was. And he learned about me on

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<v Speaker 3>the on the phone. He listened to this program on

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<v Speaker 3>the phone, came here and just in a few days

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<v Speaker 3>we're able to treat his esophagus. And before he left

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<v Speaker 3>a few days later, he was able to eat, which

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<v Speaker 3>was incredible because he had gone months and months with

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<v Speaker 3>his esophageal cancer, unable to swallow until he came to

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<v Speaker 3>Radio Cerity, New York, and he learned about it by

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<v Speaker 3>listening to this program on his smartphone in a stairwell

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<v Speaker 3>in Shanghai, China. So yeah, it is possible to hear

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<v Speaker 3>this program anywhere in the world if you want, and

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<v Speaker 3>if you wish, and if you want to learn. That's

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<v Speaker 3>why we're here today. So again the schedule. Every night

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<v Speaker 3>at midnight on WR you can listen while you work

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<v Speaker 3>or sleep or whatever. And then on Saturdays, every Saturday,

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<v Speaker 3>we're here from eleven am to noon, from one to

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<v Speaker 3>two pm, three to four pm, and four to five

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<v Speaker 3>and choose being five to six pm. Every Saturday. Again

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<v Speaker 3>from eleven to noon, from one to two, three to four,

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<v Speaker 3>and five to six every Saturday. Every Sunday, every eleven

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<v Speaker 3>o'clock to noon on Sunday and one to two, and

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<v Speaker 3>then every night at midnight and Saturday night, we're here

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<v Speaker 3>all night from Saturday night going into Sunday. So Saturday

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<v Speaker 3>night going into Sunday, it's really early morning Sunday. From

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<v Speaker 3>midnight until four am, we're here on the radio. And

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<v Speaker 3>I want to introduce myself. My name is doctor gil Liederman.

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<v Speaker 3>I was born and raised in waterlouiow I said earlier,

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<v Speaker 3>I'd introduced myself, so you know who you're talking with

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<v Speaker 3>here on the radio, because so many people give advice,

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<v Speaker 3>they don't really tell you what their background is. Even

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<v Speaker 3>people that go to the doctor's office, they think they're

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<v Speaker 3>seeing the doctors, say oh, I saw doctor X. He said, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>and I go check out. And the person I saw

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't even a doctor, wasn't even I don't know what,

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't even a resident. And so I want to tell

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<v Speaker 3>you who I am, so you at least know who's

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<v Speaker 3>on the other side of this radio. I was born

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<v Speaker 3>and raised in waterlouiow. I went to public school, university

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<v Speaker 3>Medical school MD at twenty five, just like my illustrious brother,

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<v Speaker 3>doctor Ted Liederman MD at twenty five, and like doctor

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<v Speaker 3>Ario Leederman MD at twenty five three. Doctor Liederman's all

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<v Speaker 3>real medical doctors m D trained in this beautiful country

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<v Speaker 3>at great medical schools MD's at twenty five. Aril Leederman

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<v Speaker 3>trained went to the most prestigious schools, trained at big hospitals,

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<v Speaker 3>famous hospitals across the nation, from the Atlantic to the

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<v Speaker 3>Pacific trained, educated, board certified, and is here treating cancer

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<v Speaker 3>patients and seeing cancer patients and seeing people suspicious of

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<v Speaker 3>having cancer, and seeing people who have had treatment that

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't work and wanting a fresh second opinion. So if

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<v Speaker 3>you're really lucky, you get doctor Ario Leederman. It was thoughtful, meticulous, caring, compassionate,

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<v Speaker 3>loved by his patients, loved by their families, loved by

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<v Speaker 3>the staff. This is doctor Ario Leederman. If you're lucky,

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<v Speaker 3>you get to see doctor Ario Leederman, board certified MD,

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<v Speaker 3>real doctor here at Radio sit in New York, accepting

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<v Speaker 3>most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid. Just called two and two choices

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<v Speaker 3>to see him me doctor Gil Liederman. After MDA twenty five,

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<v Speaker 3>went to years to Chicago Michael Reese trained internal medicine

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<v Speaker 3>for three years, took care of diseases of the body

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<v Speaker 3>thousands of patients in Chicago, and then when onto Harvard

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<v Speaker 3>Medical School, trained at the prestigious Dana Farber Cancer Student

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<v Speaker 3>Medical Oncology for years, treated thousands of patients. Was on

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<v Speaker 3>the staff at the Harvard Medical School Joint Dana Farber

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<v Speaker 3>for years and then also at Harvard Medical School, trained

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<v Speaker 3>at the Joint Center for Radiation Therapy for years Board certified,

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<v Speaker 3>the only Harvard trained Triple Board certified radiation doctor in

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<v Speaker 3>New York, one of the few in the world. Here

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<v Speaker 3>for you and you get all the benefits of training

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<v Speaker 3>and education, experience, and the experience of the doctor who

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<v Speaker 3>first performed brain radio Sirger in New York, first performed

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<v Speaker 3>fraction at brain radio sir New York, first performed radio

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<v Speaker 3>surgery of the body in New York in America, the

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<v Speaker 3>United States Western Hemisphere, with forty thousand patients treated. So

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<v Speaker 3>this is the work that we do every day at

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<v Speaker 3>thirty four Broadway Broadway in thirty eighth Street in the

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<v Speaker 3>hardwork city. It's easy to get to US. All the

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<v Speaker 3>subway go to US one, two, three, four, five, six,

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<v Speaker 3>ACEE and QRBDFF, seven S and Q. All the city buses,

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<v Speaker 3>all the interstate buses go to Port Authority. There's more

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<v Speaker 3>than a thousand. It's the busiest bus station in America.

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<v Speaker 3>Port Authority and then the two biggest train stations in America.

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<v Speaker 3>One's got the most trains, one's got the most passengers.

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<v Speaker 3>Penn Station and Grand Central or close walking distance to US.

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<v Speaker 3>Walking distance to US so we made our office in

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<v Speaker 3>the heart of New York City to be close to transportation,

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<v Speaker 3>to be close to you, to be convenient. We accept

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<v Speaker 3>most insurances to be accessible, and we're here in the

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<v Speaker 3>radio every day so you can understand our philosophy and

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<v Speaker 3>what we do and what we have done and what

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<v Speaker 3>we will hopefully do in the future for you or

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<v Speaker 3>your loved ones. So give us a call if you want.

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<v Speaker 3>My name is doctor Liederman. We'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 9>It's Johnny Braggs talking prostate cancer. Twenty years ago. I

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<v Speaker 9>came to doctor Liederman with prostate cancer. It was serious.

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<v Speaker 9>My stepfather died days after press surgery. My uncle never

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<v Speaker 9>recovered from prostate surgery. I came to doctor Leederman with

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<v Speaker 9>prostate cancer and high PSA. Doctor Liederman explained all options,

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<v Speaker 9>shared his and comparison results. I trusted doctor Leederman twenty

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<v Speaker 9>years ago. Today I trust doctor Leederman even more. My

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<v Speaker 9>prostate cancer is gone, my PSA is zero, my quality

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<v Speaker 9>of life is great. You can trust doctor Leederman too,

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<v Speaker 9>like me for over twenty years, Call doctor Leederman for

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<v Speaker 9>prostate cancer two one two choices. That's two on two

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<v Speaker 9>choices thirteen eighty four Broadway at thirty eighth Street in Manhattan.

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<v Speaker 9>Most insurance, Medicare, Medicaid accepted. Call doctor Leederman two and

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<v Speaker 9>two choices.

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<v Speaker 3>It's doctor Liederman with Calvin West singing and writing about

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<v Speaker 3>his cancer treatment. I had cancer.

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<v Speaker 4>At the Radio Surgery.

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<v Speaker 3>Choices.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so glad that we do well. Thank Doc Lenom.

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<v Speaker 6>Monday and you.

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<v Speaker 4>Helio cancer.

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<v Speaker 5>It's my counting one, two, three, wells up.

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<v Speaker 10>No more pay.

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<v Speaker 3>Your brand.

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<v Speaker 1>That is such too.

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<v Speaker 3>Free cancer treatment called doctor Liederman two and two choices.

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<v Speaker 3>Two and two choices, called doctor Liederman.

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<v Speaker 5>Welcome back to the Radio Surgery Hour.

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<v Speaker 6>This is Rob Redstone here with doctor Gil Liederman at

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<v Speaker 6>the w o R studios in the hearts of New

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<v Speaker 6>York City. Were just a few steps from the Radio

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<v Speaker 6>Surgery New York Cancer Treatment Center on Broadway in thirty

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<v Speaker 6>eighth Street. Doctor Liederman, Billy cancer expert, treats prostate cancer

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<v Speaker 6>not invasively. He was the first in New York with

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<v Speaker 6>fractionated brain radio surgery, and he's the first in America

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<v Speaker 6>and in the Western Hemisphere with body radiosurgery.

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<v Speaker 5>You can also call doctor Liderman at two.

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<v Speaker 6>And two choices for a free informative booklet and DVD.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey doctor Liderman, we're.

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<v Speaker 3>Back, We'll back. I want to talk about a fifty

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<v Speaker 3>nine year old man. He's referred by a urologists. There's

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<v Speaker 3>some eurologists a few that hate to do surgery in

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<v Speaker 3>the prostate, and they hate to do it because it's

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<v Speaker 3>expensive and it's toxic and it destroys in general the

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<v Speaker 3>man's quality of life, takes away erections and control of

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<v Speaker 3>urine and shortens the Vado organ and the results are

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<v Speaker 3>inferior to our results. So there's a the urologist who

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<v Speaker 3>knows our data and just hates to do radical surgery

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<v Speaker 3>on prostate cancer because he just doesn't want to harm

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<v Speaker 3>the man. He doesn't want to destroy the man's quality

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<v Speaker 3>of life. He's sympathetic to the patient. And this maation

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<v Speaker 3>came with a more aggressive cancer glease in seven PSA

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<v Speaker 3>five point three he had. I read four pirate four

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<v Speaker 3>is how the prostate looks under the MRII magnet imaging,

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<v Speaker 3>which every man should get with prostate cancer if I

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<v Speaker 3>had my way. So he had a gleas in seven cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>He had had other diseases, also had thyorer disease and

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<v Speaker 3>high blood pressure, and well, we talked about the data

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<v Speaker 3>and he knew that there was a ninety percent success

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<v Speaker 3>rate here versus sixty percent elsewhere, and he chose our

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<v Speaker 3>treatment years ago and now his PSA is zero and

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<v Speaker 3>he's happy and he's functional, and he's doing everything he

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<v Speaker 3>wants to do, and that's how we like our patients

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<v Speaker 3>to be. And we talked about another man. This is

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<v Speaker 3>a man that just came in recently. He is sixty

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<v Speaker 3>years old. He had high blood pressure and diabetes, and

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<v Speaker 3>he had a biopsid prostate before he was working construction.

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<v Speaker 3>And he had actually seen me about six years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>He saw me six years ago. His PSA was eight

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<v Speaker 3>point two, and I talked about he's the man who

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<v Speaker 3>think they're invincible. So six years ago is PSA was

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<v Speaker 3>eight point two three and ten years ago is nine

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<v Speaker 3>point one. And he had a biopsy has urination twice

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<v Speaker 3>a night, and I saw him. He had a marked

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<v Speaker 3>in large prostate at that time, and he didn't show

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<v Speaker 3>up for six years. He thought he was invincible, he

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<v Speaker 3>thought he could beat it. It's like one of my

625
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:26.000
<v Speaker 3>famous professors at Harvard, C. C. Wong would say, if

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<v Speaker 3>you've never seen a tiger. You don't know what to

627
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<v Speaker 3>be afraid of, Meaning a tiger can destroy you in

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<v Speaker 3>a second, and cancer can destroy you in a second too.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is a man who had never seen a

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<v Speaker 3>tiger before, even though he was warned. He was here

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<v Speaker 3>six years ago and now he comes back remembers PSA.

632
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<v Speaker 3>Before six years ago was eight point two three. Now

633
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<v Speaker 3>it's one hundred and sixty seven. One hundred and sixty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>Now he has a glease in nine cancer, one of

635
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<v Speaker 3>the most aggressive cancers. He was unable to urinate. The

636
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<v Speaker 3>prostate was blocking off his year and he was in pain.

637
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<v Speaker 3>The prostate was blocking off the urine, blocked off the kidneys.

638
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<v Speaker 3>He was in kidney failure. His cratning, which is a

639
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:11.079
<v Speaker 3>measure of kidney function, was off the wall, terrible. His

640
00:35:11.199 --> 00:35:14.599
<v Speaker 3>electrolytes were terrible. He also has a high A one C,

641
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:18.639
<v Speaker 3>which means a high sugar and diabetes. He had lost weight,

642
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:22.559
<v Speaker 3>and so many people with advanced cancer lose weight. Why

643
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:25.519
<v Speaker 3>because the cancer is just eating at the body. He

644
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:28.000
<v Speaker 3>lost twenty pounds. He went from two hundred and twelve

645
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<v Speaker 3>to one ninety two. And he came to me and

646
00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:34.199
<v Speaker 3>I examined him again. He had a huge sulcus to

647
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<v Speaker 3>sulcus prostate massive cancer gleason nine PSA one hundred and

648
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<v Speaker 3>sixty seven, no treatment, and this is what we do.

649
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<v Speaker 3>So he told him six years ago, Hey, it's always

650
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<v Speaker 3>better to be treated early. Early means you have a

651
00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:53.760
<v Speaker 3>better chance to be successfully treated early. That's true for

652
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<v Speaker 3>most every cancer. To be treated early before the cancer

653
00:35:57.280 --> 00:35:59.280
<v Speaker 3>is a chance to travel when you have the best

654
00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:02.320
<v Speaker 3>chance to be cured. He didn't listen sad to say,

655
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<v Speaker 3>really sad, and we're sad about it. He's sad about it.

656
00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:09.519
<v Speaker 3>Everyone's sad about it. But we're treating him nevertheless. So

657
00:36:09.559 --> 00:36:11.360
<v Speaker 3>we're going to try to help him with his prostate

658
00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:13.840
<v Speaker 3>and the cancer and get him into remission. And this

659
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<v Speaker 3>is the work we do even when you're PSA's one

660
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<v Speaker 3>hundred and sixty seven with the glease of nine and

661
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<v Speaker 3>kidney failure. This is the work that we do every

662
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<v Speaker 3>day at thirteen eighty four Broadway. So you have questions

663
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<v Speaker 3>come in. There's three groups of people that we see.

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<v Speaker 3>People who are suspicious, who just want to know. They

665
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:34.880
<v Speaker 3>know that you can't feel in early cancers. They want

666
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<v Speaker 3>to get mammograms and scans of the chest and pancreas

667
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:41.199
<v Speaker 3>and prostate and blood test and physical exam. They want

668
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<v Speaker 3>to know. And the second group of people recently diagnosed

669
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<v Speaker 3>like he came six years ago, but he walked away.

670
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<v Speaker 3>And then people who are treated elsewhere and the treatment

671
00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:55.679
<v Speaker 3>elsewhere doesn't work, and they want a fresh second chance.

672
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<v Speaker 3>And that's what we give people, is a fresh checond chance.

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<v Speaker 3>Here at Radio Serty, New York and two choices phone

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<v Speaker 3>number address thirteen eighty four Broadway. There's article in the

675
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<v Speaker 3>Wall Street Journal this week by Brianna Abbott about cancer

676
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<v Speaker 3>rates for younger women rising, and it's pretty dramatic. So

677
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<v Speaker 3>she writes that the face of cancer United States is

678
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<v Speaker 3>getting younger and more feminine. We talked about this previously.

679
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<v Speaker 3>We talked about how there's more colon cancer and young

680
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<v Speaker 3>people now than ever before. We're seeing colon cancer in

681
00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:30.880
<v Speaker 3>twenty and thirty year olds. And she writes at cancer

682
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:33.519
<v Speaker 3>rates for women United States have risen during the past

683
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<v Speaker 3>half century, particularly women under sixty five, and particularly with

684
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:41.519
<v Speaker 3>breast cancer. Men have had a decrease in cancer. So

685
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<v Speaker 3>it used to be men had fifty percent more cancer

686
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<v Speaker 3>than women. Now it's equal. So women have gained on

687
00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:52.000
<v Speaker 3>men by doing bad things like smoking. So women have

688
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<v Speaker 3>been smoking and not giving up smoking more men have

689
00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:58.639
<v Speaker 3>given up smoking on a percentage basis, So women started

690
00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:02.280
<v Speaker 3>smoking later and yet to give up smoking, and lung

691
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<v Speaker 3>cancer is the number one cancer killer for many United States.

692
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<v Speaker 3>The cases and death rates have dropped after smoking rates

693
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<v Speaker 3>have dropped, but women started smoking heavily after men have

694
00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:18.480
<v Speaker 3>been slower to quit, and their lung cancer decline has

695
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<v Speaker 3>not really taken place in the same way. Lung cancer

696
00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:26.960
<v Speaker 3>among women under sixty five was greater than men for

697
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<v Speaker 3>the first time in twenty twenty one, so the data

698
00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:33.840
<v Speaker 3>is just coming out now years later. But women are

699
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<v Speaker 3>having a high rate of lung cancer and they're more

700
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<v Speaker 3>likely to get diagnosed with lung cancer not being a smoker.

701
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<v Speaker 3>So just because you're not a smoker, that doesn't protect

702
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<v Speaker 3>you from getting lung cancers. So often I see patients say, oh,

703
00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:52.199
<v Speaker 3>uncle Harry died of lung cancer, but he was a smoker,

704
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:54.559
<v Speaker 3>like he caused it. And maybe in a way he did.

705
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<v Speaker 3>But nowadays there's more and more people getting lung cancer

706
00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:01.880
<v Speaker 3>who are not smokers, another reason to get checked out.

707
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<v Speaker 3>And overall, the death thread the United States since nineteen

708
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<v Speaker 3>ninety one has dropped by thirty four percent, So there's

709
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<v Speaker 3>thirty four percent fewer cancer deaths now than there were

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<v Speaker 3>when most of us were younger people, and that translates

711
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<v Speaker 3>to four point five million fewer cancer deaths. So four

712
00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:26.440
<v Speaker 3>point five million people are walking around today that would

713
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<v Speaker 3>have most likely been dead had they've been born earlier

714
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<v Speaker 3>in the American history, and a lot of the decline

715
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<v Speaker 3>is from decreases smoking less and better cancer screen screenings

716
00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:45.000
<v Speaker 3>and better treatments, and the number of adverted deaths people

717
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<v Speaker 3>who would have otherwise died twice as much for men

718
00:39:48.039 --> 00:39:52.639
<v Speaker 3>than women, so it's a dramatic change. In the past,

719
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<v Speaker 3>it was one point six men diagnosed for each woman.

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<v Speaker 3>Now it's almost equal, so you can see that it's

721
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<v Speaker 3>sad to say women are catching up with men or

722
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<v Speaker 3>men are catching up with women. And prostate cancer rates

723
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<v Speaker 3>had increased dramatically in the nineties when PSA screening came about,

724
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<v Speaker 3>and now that's now dropped, so we're detecting cancers earlier,

725
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:17.719
<v Speaker 3>which is great. Breast cancers have increased by one percent

726
00:40:18.119 --> 00:40:21.679
<v Speaker 3>each year in the last decade, and there's more breast

727
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<v Speaker 3>cancer in younger women. So two thousand and seven cancer

728
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<v Speaker 3>rates for women between fifty and sixty four were lower

729
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<v Speaker 3>than men, and now there's more cancer in women than

730
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<v Speaker 3>men in that same group fifty to sixty four and

731
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<v Speaker 3>young adults under fifty women also had a higher cancer rate.

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<v Speaker 3>The cancer rate for women under fifty is eighty two

733
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<v Speaker 3>percent higher than men. So you're talking about tremendous increases

734
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<v Speaker 3>in cancer in women. There's more breast cancer and thyroid cancer. Also.

735
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<v Speaker 3>I talked about before how testicular cancer and erecto cancer

736
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:05.320
<v Speaker 3>effects men in the younger categories. Why is this Well,

737
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<v Speaker 3>some speculate that women not having children until later in

738
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<v Speaker 3>life contribute to the trend, either not having children or

739
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<v Speaker 3>later in life and no breastfeeding or later breastfeeding, which

740
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<v Speaker 3>we're all protective. There's other reasons to get cancer, physical inactivity, alcohol, obesity.

741
00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:27.599
<v Speaker 3>These are all reasons that are of concern. Breast cancer

742
00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:31.119
<v Speaker 3>rate has dropped by death. The deaths in breast cancer

743
00:41:31.239 --> 00:41:34.119
<v Speaker 3>since nineteen eighty nine is dropped by forty four percent

744
00:41:34.199 --> 00:41:37.360
<v Speaker 3>by better treatment and better screening. But it's the leading

745
00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:41.599
<v Speaker 3>cause of death in women under fifty. So what's the

746
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<v Speaker 3>bottom line here, Well, get in shape, lose weight. If

747
00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:50.480
<v Speaker 3>you are overweight, stop smoking or never smoke. Courage people

748
00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:54.599
<v Speaker 3>around you not to smoke. Get screened, get colonoscaby, get mammograms,

749
00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:58.039
<v Speaker 3>get ultrasounds of breast, see your doctor, get blood tests.

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00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:01.599
<v Speaker 3>There's so many things skin cancers and number one cancer

751
00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:05.559
<v Speaker 3>in America, three million people a year get skin cancer,

752
00:42:05.639 --> 00:42:09.760
<v Speaker 3>and sad to say, so many have radical deforming mos

753
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:13.920
<v Speaker 3>surgery so often, whereas there's other non invasive treatment for

754
00:42:14.039 --> 00:42:16.360
<v Speaker 3>skin cancer, like here with radio stort in New York,

755
00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:19.280
<v Speaker 3>where we treat so many people with skin cancers with

756
00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:23.800
<v Speaker 3>basal cell and squamous cell and other skin cancers non invasively,

757
00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:26.519
<v Speaker 3>and so many skin cancers are of the face and

758
00:42:26.679 --> 00:42:30.519
<v Speaker 3>head and neck area around the ears, eyes, nose, and mouth,

759
00:42:31.079 --> 00:42:33.679
<v Speaker 3>and so that surgery is often very deforming. Also on

760
00:42:33.760 --> 00:42:36.480
<v Speaker 3>the hands and feed and trunk. You don't have to

761
00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:39.320
<v Speaker 3>have surgery to be treated for skin cancer. So we

762
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<v Speaker 3>have information to send you about skin cancers and breast

763
00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:45.360
<v Speaker 3>cancers and lung cancers. Just give us a call now

764
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<v Speaker 3>or later or when you want at two and two

765
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<v Speaker 3>choices if you want two and two two four six

766
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<v Speaker 3>forty two thirty seven, two and two two four six

767
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<v Speaker 3>forty two thirty seven, Doctor Liederman We're here for you.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 9>Numbers mean much to me because of prostate cancer. I'm

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<v Speaker 9>Johnny Bragg's. The number two for my stepfather who died

771
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<v Speaker 9>of prostate cancer and my uncle who suffered so much

772
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<v Speaker 9>after prostate cancer surgery. The number fifteen fifteen years since

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<v Speaker 9>doctor Leederman's successful treatment of my prostate cancer. The number zero,

774
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<v Speaker 9>which is my PSA zero after doctor Liederman's successful prostate

775
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<v Speaker 9>cancer treatment. What every man wants? The numbers one, two, three,

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<v Speaker 9>four important for every man with prostate cancer. One getting

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<v Speaker 9>the most successful treatment, two avoiding radical robotic surgery, three

778
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<v Speaker 9>keeping sexual functions, four maintaining urinary control. Call my doctor

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<v Speaker 9>Liderman two and two choices, two and two choices to

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<v Speaker 9>consider his prostate cancer treatment for you. Most insurances Medicare,

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<v Speaker 9>Medicaid accepted. Thirteen eighty four Broadway at thirty eighth Call

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<v Speaker 9>two on two choices for prostate cancer treatment. Called doctor

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<v Speaker 9>Liederman two one two choices. I'm glad I did. You'll

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<v Speaker 9>be number one with doctor Leiderman.

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<v Speaker 3>Remembering Jimmy Carter, thirty ninth president living to one hundred,

786
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<v Speaker 3>first president treated with radiosurgery, Doctor Liderman first to perform

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<v Speaker 3>body radio surgery in America. First and first, why a

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<v Speaker 3>president chooses radio surgery for cancer treatment, same reason as

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<v Speaker 3>our patients. Well tolerated, highly effective, where we attack cancer

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<v Speaker 3>outpatient proven over decades, no cutting, no bleeding. Learn from

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<v Speaker 3>doctor Liederman. First with body radio surgery. Thousands treated, high

792
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<v Speaker 3>success and high quality of life. Commonly meet doctor Liederman

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<v Speaker 3>called two and two choices. Most insurances Medicare, Medicaid accepted.

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<v Speaker 3>Thirteen eighty four Broadway in Manhattan. Learn what President Carter knew.

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<v Speaker 3>Call doctor Leederman two and two choices, two and two choices.

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<v Speaker 3>Doctor Liederman believes you're president of your body. For newer

797
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<v Speaker 3>recurrent cancers, call doctor Leederman two and two choices, two

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<v Speaker 3>and two choices. First President and first Physician Lee Nderman.

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<v Speaker 5>Welcome back to the Radio Surgery Hour.

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<v Speaker 6>This is Rob Redstone here with doctor Gil Liederman at

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<v Speaker 6>the WR Studios in the hearts of New York City,

802
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<v Speaker 6>were just a few steps from the Radio Surgery in

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<v Speaker 6>New York Cancer Treatment Center on Broadway in thirty eighth Street.

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<v Speaker 6>Doctor Liederman, the leading cancer expert, treats prostate cancer non

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<v Speaker 6>in Basically, he was the first in New York with

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<v Speaker 6>fractionated brain radio surgery, and he's the first in America

807
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<v Speaker 6>and in the Western Hemisphere with body radio surgery. You

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<v Speaker 6>can also call doctor Liederman at two and two Choices

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<v Speaker 6>for a free informative booklet and DVD. Hey doctor Liederman,

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<v Speaker 6>we're back.

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<v Speaker 3>We're back. I want to talk about a sixty two

812
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<v Speaker 3>year old man. He's got six children, worked in construction industry.

813
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<v Speaker 3>Came with his daughters. PSA was nine point nine, so

814
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<v Speaker 3>getting up there. Normal PSA is considered four or less.

815
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<v Speaker 3>And you can have prostate cancer when your PSA is

816
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<v Speaker 3>one hundred and two or three. So don't think you're

817
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<v Speaker 3>protected by having a PSA less than four. That's an

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<v Speaker 3>arbitrary number. He had a glease in six PSA nine

819
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<v Speaker 3>point nine. I examined him large prostate. He came to

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<v Speaker 3>me nine years ago. Nine years ago he came to

821
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<v Speaker 3>was an ex smoker. He had no car for short's breath.

822
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<v Speaker 3>His bowels were fine, his arms and legs are fine,

823
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<v Speaker 3>and he had some hip pain and shoulder pain, but

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<v Speaker 3>it was not cancerous. His bone scan was negative, and

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<v Speaker 3>nine years ago we treated him for his glease and

826
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<v Speaker 3>six PSA nine point nine cancer and he's now cancer free.

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<v Speaker 3>His PSA is zero. He's doing great. And this is

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<v Speaker 3>the work that we do every day at thirteen eighty

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<v Speaker 3>four Broadway Broadway in thirty eighth Street in the heart

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<v Speaker 3>of New York Citybut a man, very distinguished man. He's

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<v Speaker 3>sixty nine years old. He has his own church. He

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<v Speaker 3>started his own church in New York City forty years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>He came with his wife and daughter. He has diabetes, cholesterol,

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<v Speaker 3>high blood pressure, and well. He had a lump on

835
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<v Speaker 3>his neck about a collar bone. It's called a superclavicular No.

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<v Speaker 3>This was about nine months ago. He had a biopsy

837
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<v Speaker 3>said it was a poorly differentiated cancer. Doctors thought it

838
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<v Speaker 3>was a neuroendocrine cancer, and they treated him for a

839
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<v Speaker 3>neuroendocrine cancer for eight months while he was getting weaker

840
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<v Speaker 3>and weaker, and the mass was growing and he was

841
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<v Speaker 3>losing weight, and he was in more pain and he

842
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<v Speaker 3>was suffering, and he would have think, well, after two

843
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<v Speaker 3>months he's worse, and three months he's worse than four

844
00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:21.599
<v Speaker 3>months he's worse. But they keep on giving the same

845
00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:25.840
<v Speaker 3>treatment for eight months and then finally someone checks his

846
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<v Speaker 3>PSA and finds it to be one hundred and thirty two,

847
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<v Speaker 3>and finally someone does a recto exam. And so many

848
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:34.239
<v Speaker 3>men think a recto exam so terrible. But I can

849
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<v Speaker 3>tell you my experience here at radios from New York.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an easy test and it gives you an idea

851
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<v Speaker 3>what's going along one with the blood test. That's why

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<v Speaker 3>I believe every man should know what his PSA is

853
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<v Speaker 3>and know what his recto exam is. It's not a

854
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<v Speaker 3>big deal. And so finally, after eight months of the

855
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<v Speaker 3>wrong chemo, they gave him the wrong chemo for the

856
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<v Speaker 3>wrong reason, someone got a PSA and saw his recto

857
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<v Speaker 3>mass was a huge actually prostate answer. He got a

858
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<v Speaker 3>biopsy showing a very aggressive cancer gleas in ten, which

859
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<v Speaker 3>is the most aggressive cancer there is. Gleason score goes

860
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<v Speaker 3>from two, which is the best ten the worst. He

861
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<v Speaker 3>had ten. And his PSA was going up and up

862
00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:16.880
<v Speaker 3>and up, even though they kept on giving him the

863
00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:21.960
<v Speaker 3>chemo for the wrong type of cancer. And he came

864
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<v Speaker 3>here in terrible pain in his CPA, say elsewhere was

865
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<v Speaker 3>going up for one thirty two, on forty one, forty

866
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<v Speaker 3>and then two hundred and fifty three, and he had

867
00:48:33.679 --> 00:48:37.159
<v Speaker 3>cancer and the prostate semino vesico and the neck, the thorax,

868
00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:42.559
<v Speaker 3>abdominal nodes all markedly increased. Everything was worse. And they

869
00:48:42.639 --> 00:48:45.840
<v Speaker 3>never thought about saying, hey, if he's worse, maybe we

870
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:49.920
<v Speaker 3>should reevaluate. Why is he worse? Why is this man worse?

871
00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:53.519
<v Speaker 3>Why is he worse? And you'd think that would be common,

872
00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:55.159
<v Speaker 3>you'd think it would be the first thing that came

873
00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:58.119
<v Speaker 3>to someone's mind, especially a doctor's taking care of a

874
00:48:58.159 --> 00:49:01.480
<v Speaker 3>patient with cancer. But no, everything got worse. His pain

875
00:49:01.599 --> 00:49:04.599
<v Speaker 3>got worse, his mask got worse, his cancer marker got worse.

876
00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:08.159
<v Speaker 3>Everything got worse. And he kept on the same treatment.

877
00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:10.400
<v Speaker 3>And he came to me just a few days ago

878
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<v Speaker 3>with intractable pain eating through his bones. He could barely

879
00:49:14.519 --> 00:49:17.079
<v Speaker 3>sit up or move or sit down or lay back.

880
00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:20.519
<v Speaker 3>Just incredible. And so he put together a program we

881
00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:23.760
<v Speaker 3>called his insurance company emergently to get approval and got

882
00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:27.519
<v Speaker 3>his treatment already approved within a short period of time.

883
00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:30.480
<v Speaker 3>And he's already under treatment within a short period of time.

884
00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:33.199
<v Speaker 3>In so many places, I know, these big places, Oh,

885
00:49:33.440 --> 00:49:35.840
<v Speaker 3>come back in four weeks or six weeks or eight

886
00:49:35.880 --> 00:49:38.360
<v Speaker 3>weeks or whatever. No, we don't do it that way here.

887
00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:42.760
<v Speaker 3>It's so different. We're so eager if you want. We

888
00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:45.719
<v Speaker 3>don't push anybody. But this man was desperate. He was

889
00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:48.280
<v Speaker 3>in terrible pain. He could barely sit or stand or

890
00:49:48.360 --> 00:49:51.320
<v Speaker 3>lay down in terrible pain. He was a stoic man

891
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:54.119
<v Speaker 3>and just grinning and burying it. He was there with

892
00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:57.079
<v Speaker 3>his family and a loving wife and loving daughter, and

893
00:49:57.119 --> 00:49:59.840
<v Speaker 3>they both actually knew all the details of the case.

894
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:02.800
<v Speaker 3>Just so dramatic, and so we got put together a

895
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<v Speaker 3>program for him. We're starting the treatment immediately to try

896
00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:09.639
<v Speaker 3>to get the pain and suffering under control and get

897
00:50:09.679 --> 00:50:12.639
<v Speaker 3>the cancer in remission went for eight months. He'd got

898
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<v Speaker 3>the wrong treatment for the wrong disease. So that's another

899
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<v Speaker 3>reason why we say, if you're not getting better, you

900
00:50:18.679 --> 00:50:20.880
<v Speaker 3>might want to give us a call. Two and two choices.

901
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<v Speaker 3>I talk about all the time, the three reasons to

902
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<v Speaker 3>come to get checked out, or you're newly diagnosed, or

903
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<v Speaker 3>number three, you're getting treatment. This is not getting better,

904
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<v Speaker 3>give us a call, and maybe you're on the wrong

905
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<v Speaker 3>track like this man. Doctors were on the wrong track

906
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<v Speaker 3>giving the wrong treatment. There was expensive treatment, costly treatment.

907
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<v Speaker 3>The average chemos one hundred to two hundred thousand dollars

908
00:50:41.639 --> 00:50:44.119
<v Speaker 3>a year. So yeah, there's a big motivation to keep

909
00:50:44.159 --> 00:50:47.159
<v Speaker 3>on giving treatment. But this treatment was no good. He

910
00:50:47.320 --> 00:50:49.840
<v Speaker 3>was getting worse and worse and worse. The mass was bigger,

911
00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:52.880
<v Speaker 3>the pain was worse, everything was worse, and yet they

912
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<v Speaker 3>kept on giving him the same treatment. Outrageous, really uncredible.

913
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<v Speaker 3>This is the work we do every day at thirteen

914
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<v Speaker 3>eighty four Broadway. You're welcome to come in. We accept

915
00:51:03.599 --> 00:51:06.960
<v Speaker 3>most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid. It's easy to communicate with us.

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<v Speaker 3>You can email me even now at Gailgil at r

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<v Speaker 3>s NY dot org. Again, gailgil at rs NY dot

918
00:51:18.920 --> 00:51:20.960
<v Speaker 3>org if you want, and you'll probably get an answer

919
00:51:21.039 --> 00:51:24.159
<v Speaker 3>pretty quick, probably quicker than your own doctors. I'll talk

920
00:51:24.199 --> 00:51:25.679
<v Speaker 3>about a forty four year old man. So I just

921
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<v Speaker 3>recently a couple of minutes ago, talked about how cancer

922
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<v Speaker 3>is occurring in younger and younger and younger people. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's a forty four year old man referred by a

924
00:51:35.199 --> 00:51:38.639
<v Speaker 3>prominent doctor. He's married, has two children. He came with

925
00:51:38.760 --> 00:51:43.400
<v Speaker 3>his sister two years ago out of anemia. He had colonoscopy.

926
00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:45.239
<v Speaker 3>He was found to have a colon cancer. He sent

927
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:47.760
<v Speaker 3>for surgery at one of the big hospitals. He had

928
00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:53.119
<v Speaker 3>chemo therapies, he had surgery and chemo, and the chemo

929
00:51:53.239 --> 00:51:55.679
<v Speaker 3>was stopped because his liver tests were getting worse and

930
00:51:55.760 --> 00:51:58.039
<v Speaker 3>worse and worse and worse, and finally well. Then he

931
00:51:58.119 --> 00:52:02.239
<v Speaker 3>went to alternative medicine doctor got vitamins and everything got

932
00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:04.159
<v Speaker 3>worse and worse and worse and worse. Then he went

933
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<v Speaker 3>to a super pooper pooper pooper place. They did a

934
00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:09.480
<v Speaker 3>cat scan of his abdomen, found the mass in the

935
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<v Speaker 3>liver and he was just fed up with the chemo.

936
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<v Speaker 3>He had had chemo. The idea of the chemo was

937
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:18.119
<v Speaker 3>to stop cancer from spreading in the body. And well,

938
00:52:18.119 --> 00:52:20.840
<v Speaker 3>the vitamins didn't help either, and he had a big

939
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<v Speaker 3>mass in the in the liver and he had scans.

940
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<v Speaker 3>The scans before it did not show that he had

941
00:52:27.800 --> 00:52:31.480
<v Speaker 3>pain in the right flank. His weight again, it'st another

942
00:52:31.559 --> 00:52:34.960
<v Speaker 3>case of losing weight with stage four cancer. Colon cancer

943
00:52:35.079 --> 00:52:38.320
<v Speaker 3>travels to the liver is stage four. His weight went

944
00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:41.760
<v Speaker 3>from two five to one eight three. Some people naively

945
00:52:41.960 --> 00:52:44.320
<v Speaker 3>think when they lose weight when they have stage four cancer,

946
00:52:44.360 --> 00:52:46.760
<v Speaker 3>it's the diet. I don't believe it's a diet. I

947
00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:49.239
<v Speaker 3>believe it's a cancer eating away at the body, just

948
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<v Speaker 3>like when you plant a tree, you put fertilized in

949
00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:54.360
<v Speaker 3>the ground, it gives it extra nutrition. Well, the cancer

950
00:52:54.440 --> 00:52:56.360
<v Speaker 3>goes out and finds it by eating your fat and

951
00:52:56.440 --> 00:52:59.519
<v Speaker 3>your muscle and your bone and everything else. So the

952
00:52:59.679 --> 00:53:02.119
<v Speaker 3>can So I believe a twenty pounds of his body,

953
00:53:03.079 --> 00:53:05.079
<v Speaker 3>and he came to me with terrible pain in the

954
00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:07.800
<v Speaker 3>flank and he just did not want more chemo. He

955
00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:12.000
<v Speaker 3>had surgery elsewhere at super duper places. He had chemo elsewhere,

956
00:53:12.039 --> 00:53:14.800
<v Speaker 3>it didn't work. He wanted a treatment that could most

957
00:53:14.960 --> 00:53:17.199
<v Speaker 3>likely stop the cancer and take care of the pain.

958
00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:20.000
<v Speaker 3>And he just finished the treatment a couple of days ago.

959
00:53:20.119 --> 00:53:22.880
<v Speaker 3>I met with him again and the pain is gone

960
00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:26.039
<v Speaker 3>and he's going in remission. And this is what we want.

961
00:53:26.159 --> 00:53:28.719
<v Speaker 3>This is what we need for every patient. So he'd

962
00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:31.440
<v Speaker 3>been at super Duper General, he had had surgery, didn't work,

963
00:53:31.719 --> 00:53:34.440
<v Speaker 3>chemo didn't work. Came to us with stage four cancer,

964
00:53:34.599 --> 00:53:38.039
<v Speaker 3>losing weight and pain. And now his weight is stabilized

965
00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:40.719
<v Speaker 3>and his pain is gone and he's happy. And of

966
00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:43.480
<v Speaker 3>course we're going to get follow up testing on him, imaging,

967
00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:48.360
<v Speaker 3>physical exam, blood tests, cancer markers. This is the work

968
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<v Speaker 3>that we do every day. At thirteen eighty four Broadway.

969
00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:53.880
<v Speaker 3>Broadway in through the eighth Street in the heart of

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<v Speaker 3>New York City. Just one more passion. I want to

971
00:53:55.840 --> 00:53:57.440
<v Speaker 3>talk about seventy nine year old man who came with

972
00:53:57.519 --> 00:54:00.039
<v Speaker 3>a mass in the kidney. He was seen l I

973
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<v Speaker 3>swear that you're all just You're all just a doctor

974
00:54:02.119 --> 00:54:04.239
<v Speaker 3>cuts on kidneys. You all just wanted to cut out

975
00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:06.559
<v Speaker 3>his kidney. He had a mass. We biopsy that showed

976
00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:09.840
<v Speaker 3>a tumor, and he wanted non invasive treatment. Wanted to

977
00:54:09.960 --> 00:54:12.239
<v Speaker 3>keep his kidney. I want to lose his kidney. So

978
00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:14.800
<v Speaker 3>many people who lose their kidney are so angry about

979
00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:17.280
<v Speaker 3>losing their kidney when they know they could come here

980
00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:21.519
<v Speaker 3>and have non invasive treatment, no cutting, no bleeding, no hospitals,

981
00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:25.239
<v Speaker 3>no anesthesia, invisible beams to attack the kidney cancer with

982
00:54:25.639 --> 00:54:29.440
<v Speaker 3>high success. We treated thousands. I've treated forty thousand patients

983
00:54:29.480 --> 00:54:32.199
<v Speaker 3>with radio surgery, probably the most in the world by

984
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<v Speaker 3>a single doctor. This is the work we do every day,

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<v Speaker 3>Doctor Liederman, God bless you and thank you and see

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<v Speaker 3>you soon.

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks for tuning in to the Radio Surgery Hour with

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<v Speaker 6>doctor Gil Leiderman and myself. If you have questions before

989
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<v Speaker 6>next week's show or want a free informative booklet and DVD.

990
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<v Speaker 6>Just contact doctor Liederman at two one two choices. That's

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<v Speaker 6>two one two two four six four to two three seven.

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<v Speaker 6>That's two one two two four six four two three seven.

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<v Speaker 2>For cancer treatment. Most prefer effective, non invasive, well tolerated,

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<v Speaker 2>outpatient therapy. That's doctor Liederman, the radio surgery pioneer's goal too.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Liederman is first in America, first in New York,

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<v Speaker 2>First for you with body radiosurgery. Doctor Liederman hits your

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<v Speaker 2>cancer with no cutting, no bleeding. Doctor Liederman has decades

998
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<v Speaker 2>of experience with primary and metastatic large or small cancers

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<v Speaker 2>from head to toe cancer treatment with possibly a second

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<v Speaker 2>chance for you. Meet doctor Liderman to hit the cancer.

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<v Speaker 2>He's New York's only Harvard trained Triple Board certified radiation oncologist.

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<v Speaker 2>Call two one two choices, two one two choices to

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<v Speaker 2>meet doctor Liderman for a fresh second opinion. Most insurances Medicare,

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<v Speaker 2>Medicaid accepted. Pre booklet DVD two super convenient Broadway in

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<v Speaker 2>thirty eighth in Manhattan. Meet doctor Liederman to hit your cancer.

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<v Speaker 2>Called two one two choices, two one two choices.

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<v Speaker 10>Did you know that You've got choices that there can

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<v Speaker 10>be a bad way. Did you know that you've got choices?

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<v Speaker 7>Conductor?

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<v Speaker 10>They don't mean today. To want to choices is a

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<v Speaker 10>much bad way too, want too choices, Conductor, they don't

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<v Speaker 10>mean today. Did you know that you've got choices?

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<v Speaker 3>That there can be a bad way?

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<v Speaker 10>Did you know that you've got choices? Conductor, they don't

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<v Speaker 10>mean today. To want to choices is a much bad

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<v Speaker 10>way too. Ut two joy, says conductive leader.

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<v Speaker 3>Men today, Doctor Liederman, Cancer Treatment, thirteen eighty four, Broadway.

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<v Speaker 1>The proceeding was a paid podcast. iHeartRadio's hosting of this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast constitutes neither an endorsement of the products offered or

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<v Speaker 1>the ideas expressed.
