Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
Speaker 1: help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
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Speaker 2: our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on
Speaker 2: a newer entertainment property, and for this week of October fourteenth,
Speaker 2: we're discussing season four, episode eight of Only Murders in
Speaker 2: the Building. This one was called Lifeboat. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: I found the connection.
Speaker 1: Well there, at least they did at the beginning have
Speaker 1: something about the movie. I think it was about found
Speaker 1: family and the groups that you are put into unexpected
Speaker 1: situations with. And then I mean I didn't haven't seen
Speaker 1: the movie Lifeboat, but the little intro seemed to be
Speaker 1: saying that, you, yeah, drawing a comparison between Lifeboat and
Speaker 1: the Westies and also our trio. I can see that, Okay,
Speaker 1: that they're they're uh, find it a way to.
Speaker 2: Survive, Yeah, which which also Mabel did by the end
Speaker 2: draw that connection. Yes, so yes, this was you know,
Speaker 2: the one where we think it was the Westies and
Speaker 2: we find out it wasn't.
Speaker 1: We knew it wasn't the Westies.
Speaker 2: We knew it wasn't because it wasn't. The final episode, Yes,
Speaker 2: I did think the entire so, you know, the whole
Speaker 2: episode is the Westies explaining how they got together with
Speaker 2: dudent Off, how they became like this tight knit and
Speaker 2: then the end of Dude Enough and how he departed
Speaker 2: and they were still keeping up his you know, catching
Speaker 2: his checks whatever whatever. I mean, they all could have
Speaker 2: been making this up entirely.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, there's film supposedly of him saying this correct, but.
Speaker 2: I really I gotta say I didn't necessarily buy or understand.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: His point was, we're not telling Helga. She's the one
Speaker 2: member of the Westies that we haven't met until this episode.
Speaker 2: We're not telling her because she's too, desponding over the
Speaker 2: death of her father. She can't lose me too. So
Speaker 2: we're setting up this whole elaborate thing and we're leaving
Speaker 2: her out of it. Yeah, but like, okay, the teenage
Speaker 2: girl was upset. You know, Vince has lost his wife. Like,
Speaker 2: people like why her?
Speaker 1: Why? Yeah, for some plot reason, probably that we shall
Speaker 1: encounter later, I don't know, just just to so there's
Speaker 1: a little extra twist in it. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: I mean they did that. They left her out of
Speaker 1: it because of that. But they did it so that
Speaker 1: they would be able to stay in their apartments. Although
Speaker 1: I read a review that said, why didn't he just
Speaker 1: leave the apartments to them in his will if he
Speaker 1: owns them?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: But perhaps there's some some nicety of real estate law
Speaker 1: that makes that impractical or not not doable. Who knows,
Speaker 1: It's New York, who knows anything's possible. Better to have
Speaker 1: your friends watch you die and then put you in
Speaker 1: an insiderator, then deal with the legal profession.
Speaker 2: I get that, right, then, in all because we don't
Speaker 2: want to tell Helga, Helga, but I'm dying. Yeah, plot holes,
Speaker 2: did we mention?
Speaker 1: Everyone was usually so tightly plotted it's amazing to me
Speaker 1: that they don't have every possible thing crossed off. Maybe
Speaker 1: there's a reason for the plot holes, maybe there will
Speaker 1: there will be something else. I do feel like there
Speaker 1: has to be something else to justify the existence of Helga.
Speaker 1: But we shall see. We may not care, but we
Speaker 1: will see.
Speaker 2: She was there to come back and point a finger
Speaker 2: at Glenn Stubbins, which is Paul Rudd's character.
Speaker 1: Who is currently in the hospital having been shot. So
Speaker 1: if he was the shooter of Saz, somebody has now
Speaker 1: shot him, possibly on purpose, and making it look like
Speaker 1: they were aiming at one of somebody else. Right, But
Speaker 1: I was more entertained by this episode than I have
Speaker 1: by some of the others. For whatever reason, it was
Speaker 1: I think not quite at as high a pitch. I mean,
Speaker 1: the characters were all the actors were all doing their thing,
Speaker 1: but maybe it was just because they were mostly one
Speaker 1: on one that it was less overwhelming. And the whole thing,
Speaker 1: you know, the whole thing with the Westiest. So there's
Speaker 1: a lot of people around and they just seem to
Speaker 1: turn down the volume a little bit. Maybe Melissa McCarthy
Speaker 1: not being there turned down the volume like two hundred notches,
Speaker 1: but it was fine. I mean, I'm over trying to
Speaker 1: figure out a case where this is going to go.
Speaker 1: I couldn't figure it out. I don't think I've figured
Speaker 1: it out on any of them. Just because it's going
Speaker 1: to be something, it's going to be Tony Danza, Tony
Speaker 1: Dancer was a shooter. Yeah, and you know Mark Linn
Speaker 1: Baker helping them out. I'm really wondering if we're going
Speaker 1: to see those guys cameo by the end, because you
Speaker 1: know they're random pop culture references. Sure, but you mentioned
Speaker 1: them enough times and it's like, Okay, how are we
Speaker 1: going to pay this off? Now? I am sort of
Speaker 1: okay with the payoff of all the Tony Dance stuff
Speaker 1: being them having to explain to mable who Tony Dancy
Speaker 1: is a little rough on Tony, But okay, But the
Speaker 1: Perfect Strangers thing coming up again seems to me like
Speaker 1: it has to have some payoff. Yeah, and you know,
Speaker 1: if they can get Scott Bacula for a comic walk
Speaker 1: on that apparently is nothing more than that they can
Speaker 1: get those two dudes in at a wrap party at
Speaker 1: the end or something. Yes, I'm pretty sure they're sitting
Speaker 1: by their phones.
Speaker 2: Well, and I'm pretty sure Tony Danza is basically based
Speaker 2: in New York. Yeah, that's having read a whole article
Speaker 2: in the New York Times about his apartment.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, fairly recently.
Speaker 2: Yeah that would Why of.
Speaker 1: All the people, would you grab him for your joke?
Speaker 1: I don't know anyway, I like Tony Danz. It just fine.
Speaker 1: Happy to see him, amen, I remember you, But please
Speaker 1: don't end up in the incinerator. Do you have any
Speaker 1: fake parts?
Speaker 2: Right, because we need to be able to identify either.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So smart. He could have just said, by the way,
Speaker 1: please fish out my artificial joints on your way so
Speaker 1: that there's no evidence left. But yeah, but happy to
Speaker 1: see more of Griffin done. That's fine. Yes, it's fine,
Speaker 1: it's fine. Everything, it's fine. Yes.
Speaker 2: Well, and parenting wise, we get dude off kind of
Speaker 2: being the oh yeah, parent to this whole family. Yes,
Speaker 2: he's the one, he's the patriarch. He brought them all
Speaker 2: together from yes, various encounters, and you know he he
Speaker 2: met them all in different ways, yes, and them all together.
Speaker 1: And he was benevolent towards them. But they enriched his life,
Speaker 1: which is rather like a parent parent child's situation. However,
Speaker 1: we don't recommend that parents kill themselves and tell their
Speaker 1: children to dispose of the body, right, don't do that
Speaker 1: big circle and slash across that. Yeah, even if.
Speaker 2: You're trying to spare one of them the pain of
Speaker 2: your death, you really are messing with the rest of
Speaker 2: the yo.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's not They should not be their job, you know.
Speaker 1: And since we're talking about found families, they also mentioned
Speaker 1: that Maybel, Oliver and Charles are somewhat of a found
Speaker 1: family themselves. And I feel like, though she is the youngest,
Speaker 1: maybele is kind of the mom. I'm so sorry, sweetie.
Speaker 1: There's nobody to take care of you. You're busy taking
Speaker 1: care of them. They are going back to their posh
Speaker 1: apartments and leaving you in whatever that place.
Speaker 2: Is that you live.
Speaker 1: Right, nobody's taking care of mabel I bet Eva Longoria
Speaker 1: would take her under her wing in a second.
Speaker 2: But well, and did it seem like Helga was going
Speaker 2: to reclaim that apartment or.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wondered about that. Yeah she should, but where
Speaker 1: was she living like the roommate when was alive?
Speaker 2: There must be another apartment. Yeah, because when Dudonov was alive,
Speaker 2: he was living in the one where Mabel.
Speaker 1: Is that's right, because he had the thing put in
Speaker 1: the lock. Yeah, oh hell lot, and they bonded over
Speaker 1: their mutual like of this card game I had never heard,
Speaker 1: but which you tell me is actually a thing?
Speaker 2: It is. I put a link in our show notes.
Speaker 1: To nothing better for a family fun night than playing cards.
Speaker 1: We have done that here, although our card of choices
Speaker 1: un which wouldn't be quite long enough for the the lock.
Speaker 1: You'd have to come up with something else, right.
Speaker 2: We did not have any sighting of Bev mellon the
Speaker 2: Molly's standing character. Sure, I didn't miss her.
Speaker 1: That's why the volume was so.
Speaker 2: I do like Molly Shannon, but yeah, we needed a
Speaker 2: little break from.
Speaker 1: Her weirdo sisters. No, no, the actors and they were
Speaker 1: kind of on a lower key, although Eugene Levy was
Speaker 1: trying to get Charles to be angry. Just an actor thing.
Speaker 1: So they're doing their actors things. Eva Longoria is having
Speaker 1: such a great time parodying herself enter many products which
Speaker 1: he's involunt Yeah.
Speaker 2: We knew that that device having a recorder on it would.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was a big yeah.
Speaker 2: Going to be coming into play for sure.
Speaker 1: And she still has it on there, so theoretically she
Speaker 1: can make trouble with it, but I hope she does not.
Speaker 1: If these people are legit what they say they are,
Speaker 1: let them stay there in those crappy apartments, right, you know,
Speaker 1: with their ham Leave them be. But get that young
Speaker 1: girl out of there as soon as possible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she is.
Speaker 1: Again, they're evolving this. I mean, how old is she
Speaker 1: supposed to be? Do we think?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's unclear.
Speaker 1: We're involving her in because the Student of Dying was
Speaker 1: a while ago, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean time is an elastic contract.
Speaker 1: That is true. That is true. Ah, anyway, that's fun.
Speaker 1: I related to the thing at the beginning where they're
Speaker 1: talking about the joy of getting away from a place
Speaker 1: that's full of family. Recently had some family over this weekend.
Speaker 1: It was great we had at the time. None of
Speaker 1: them listened to this. But yes, my place is man
Speaker 1: to my place, or yes, I get to go back
Speaker 1: to my place.
Speaker 2: Right, draw a picture of a pig on your wall.
Speaker 1: That's right. And you don't have to worry about people
Speaker 1: being nice to your kids anymore when you leave family.
Speaker 1: That's an element that was not part of this, but
Speaker 1: that is always one with me. From a parenting point
Speaker 1: of view, sometimes it's nice to just go back to
Speaker 1: your little little immediate unit and not have to, you know,
Speaker 1: field comments about things. So and I imagine the Westi's
Speaker 1: all enjoyed going back to their individual places. Thank gosh,
Speaker 1: those famous people. They could just go back to playing
Speaker 1: cards in eating him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I feel like the Hala thing was
Speaker 2: very much of a weird stretch.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna hope there's a payoff and it
Speaker 1: involves her not really talking like that, ah, because that
Speaker 1: is just silly.
Speaker 2: You didn't appreciate that you can't handle the truth joke?
Speaker 1: No, this is my this is the source of my distress,
Speaker 1: which is that was that whole monologue thing just to
Speaker 1: set up that you can't handle the truth joke was
Speaker 1: her accent, just to set up that joke. They started
Speaker 1: with that joke and they worked backwards. No, stop that,
Speaker 1: you don't have to work that hard. Calm down. It's
Speaker 1: like the Tony Dance a thing. I will accept. That
Speaker 1: was too far, dear, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, you're
Speaker 1: pretty full of yourself, But this was this was somewhat
Speaker 1: better and gave us the delightful term of endearment. You
Speaker 1: adorable baloney loaf. I'm tucking that away.
Speaker 2: Yes, a breakthrough between Zach anaphylaxis and OL.
Speaker 1: That's right. But now the wedding has been moved to
Speaker 1: the arconia.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess suddenly possibly go back to We're not
Speaker 2: Afraid to be at the like that's yeah.
Speaker 1: And somebody this review I read mentioned is this going
Speaker 1: to then be the sight of the next one? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that sounds and we hope it's not. Meryl Streep, Loretta,
Speaker 1: where get some body.
Speaker 2: Or a nice bullet proof best with your.
Speaker 1: Possibly a football helmet. Meryl Streep seems like she's having
Speaker 1: a super good time though, so I would imagine she'd
Speaker 1: be she'd be cool with my wife. Loretta is working
Speaker 1: out on the coast. She'll pop in for one episode please.
Speaker 1: She's fun.
Speaker 2: Although they had no qualms about killing National Treasure Paul Rudd.
Speaker 1: So that's true, although they then immediately brought him back
Speaker 1: to where he is now almost dying again or possible
Speaker 1: he's the murder right, So I think if you play
Speaker 1: things right, you can be on this show pretty much
Speaker 1: for the entire run.
Speaker 2: I will say for these last many episodes. There's been
Speaker 2: no Saz flashbacks, that's true. We were really don't like that.
Speaker 1: Of those. Yes, I thought she would be a running
Speaker 1: commentary throughout. I'm disappointed. And also in these this huge
Speaker 1: influx of outsiders we have received, we don't see any
Speaker 1: of the apartment people anymore. Where's Zuma? Right? Uma has
Speaker 1: like Uma in this episode at all? Either?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Numa had had one line so far.
Speaker 1: This is they're just it's just like it's not the
Speaker 1: same show a little bit, but eh, it's they're fine.
Speaker 1: Everything is how many more episodes?
Speaker 2: Two?
Speaker 1: The next next, one of which has a really stupid name,
Speaker 1: which I now know where it comes from.
Speaker 2: All right, well aright, shall we wrap that up? Shall
Speaker 2: we go them?
Speaker 1: I don't think we got a ding dong cut, so yeah,
Speaker 1: let's just move on.
Speaker 2: So next week.
Speaker 1: And why didn't nobody say when she said the ding
Speaker 1: dong thing, you want us to give them a cupcake
Speaker 1: or whatever, like a the ding dong is a thing?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I went to Delicious Hostess Chocolate Confection and
Speaker 1: nobody made Nobody made.
Speaker 2: That that was coming.
Speaker 1: Also, yes, come on, you can't mention that because I
Speaker 1: would now want to go to the kitchen and I
Speaker 1: have no ding Dons in the house, but my did
Speaker 1: I enjoy myself at ding dong back in the day,
Speaker 1: licking the foil at the end, just because chocolate.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Yes, So next week we will discuss the ninth,
Speaker 2: the penultimate episode of season four of Only Murders in
Speaker 2: the Building. As you mentioned, the title is Escape from
Speaker 2: Planet Clongo. So all right, presumably that's a movie they
Speaker 2: all have been. And we'll see you back here tomorrow
Speaker 2: for our weekly Roundabout round up.
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