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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>a newer entertainment property, and for this week of October fourteenth,

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<v Speaker 2>we're discussing season four, episode eight of Only Murders in

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<v Speaker 2>the Building. This one was called Lifeboat. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 2>I found the connection.

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<v Speaker 1>Well there, at least they did at the beginning have

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<v Speaker 1>something about the movie. I think it was about found

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<v Speaker 1>family and the groups that you are put into unexpected

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<v Speaker 1>situations with. And then I mean I didn't haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>the movie Lifeboat, but the little intro seemed to be

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<v Speaker 1>saying that, you, yeah, drawing a comparison between Lifeboat and

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<v Speaker 1>the Westies and also our trio. I can see that, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that they're they're uh, find it a way to.

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<v Speaker 2>Survive, Yeah, which which also Mabel did by the end

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<v Speaker 2>draw that connection. Yes, so yes, this was you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the one where we think it was the Westies and

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<v Speaker 2>we find out it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>We knew it wasn't the Westies.

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<v Speaker 2>We knew it wasn't because it wasn't. The final episode, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I did think the entire so, you know, the whole

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<v Speaker 2>episode is the Westies explaining how they got together with

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<v Speaker 2>dudent Off, how they became like this tight knit and

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<v Speaker 2>then the end of Dude Enough and how he departed

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<v Speaker 2>and they were still keeping up his you know, catching

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<v Speaker 2>his checks whatever whatever. I mean, they all could have

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<v Speaker 2>been making this up entirely.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, there's film supposedly of him saying this correct, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I really I gotta say I didn't necessarily buy or understand.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>His point was, we're not telling Helga. She's the one

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<v Speaker 2>member of the Westies that we haven't met until this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not telling her because she's too, desponding over the

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<v Speaker 2>death of her father. She can't lose me too. So

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<v Speaker 2>we're setting up this whole elaborate thing and we're leaving

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<v Speaker 2>her out of it. Yeah, but like, okay, the teenage

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<v Speaker 2>girl was upset. You know, Vince has lost his wife. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>people like why her?

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<v Speaker 1>Why? Yeah, for some plot reason, probably that we shall

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<v Speaker 1>encounter later, I don't know, just just to so there's

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<v Speaker 1>a little extra twist in it. I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they did that. They left her out of

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<v Speaker 1>it because of that. But they did it so that

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<v Speaker 1>they would be able to stay in their apartments. Although

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<v Speaker 1>I read a review that said, why didn't he just

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<v Speaker 1>leave the apartments to them in his will if he

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<v Speaker 1>owns them?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>But perhaps there's some some nicety of real estate law

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<v Speaker 1>that makes that impractical or not not doable. Who knows,

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<v Speaker 1>It's New York, who knows anything's possible. Better to have

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<v Speaker 1>your friends watch you die and then put you in

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<v Speaker 1>an insiderator, then deal with the legal profession.

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<v Speaker 2>I get that, right, then, in all because we don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to tell Helga, Helga, but I'm dying. Yeah, plot holes,

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<v Speaker 2>did we mention?

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone was usually so tightly plotted it's amazing to me

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<v Speaker 1>that they don't have every possible thing crossed off. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>there's a reason for the plot holes, maybe there will

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<v Speaker 1>there will be something else. I do feel like there

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<v Speaker 1>has to be something else to justify the existence of Helga.

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<v Speaker 1>But we shall see. We may not care, but we

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<v Speaker 1>will see.

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<v Speaker 2>She was there to come back and point a finger

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<v Speaker 2>at Glenn Stubbins, which is Paul Rudd's character.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is currently in the hospital having been shot. So

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<v Speaker 1>if he was the shooter of Saz, somebody has now

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<v Speaker 1>shot him, possibly on purpose, and making it look like

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<v Speaker 1>they were aiming at one of somebody else. Right, But

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<v Speaker 1>I was more entertained by this episode than I have

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<v Speaker 1>by some of the others. For whatever reason, it was

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<v Speaker 1>I think not quite at as high a pitch. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the characters were all the actors were all doing their thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe it was just because they were mostly one

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<v Speaker 1>on one that it was less overwhelming. And the whole thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the whole thing with the Westiest. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people around and they just seem to

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<v Speaker 1>turn down the volume a little bit. Maybe Melissa McCarthy

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<v Speaker 1>not being there turned down the volume like two hundred notches,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was fine. I mean, I'm over trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out a case where this is going to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't figure it out. I don't think I've figured

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<v Speaker 1>it out on any of them. Just because it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be something, it's going to be Tony Danza, Tony

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<v Speaker 1>Dancer was a shooter. Yeah, and you know Mark Linn

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<v Speaker 1>Baker helping them out. I'm really wondering if we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to see those guys cameo by the end, because you

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<v Speaker 1>know they're random pop culture references. Sure, but you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>them enough times and it's like, Okay, how are we

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<v Speaker 1>going to pay this off? Now? I am sort of

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<v Speaker 1>okay with the payoff of all the Tony Dance stuff

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<v Speaker 1>being them having to explain to mable who Tony Dancy

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<v Speaker 1>is a little rough on Tony, But okay, But the

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<v Speaker 1>Perfect Strangers thing coming up again seems to me like

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<v Speaker 1>it has to have some payoff. Yeah, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if they can get Scott Bacula for a comic walk

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<v Speaker 1>on that apparently is nothing more than that they can

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<v Speaker 1>get those two dudes in at a wrap party at

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<v Speaker 1>the end or something. Yes, I'm pretty sure they're sitting

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<v Speaker 1>by their phones.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and I'm pretty sure Tony Danza is basically based

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<v Speaker 2>in New York. Yeah, that's having read a whole article

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<v Speaker 2>in the New York Times about his apartment.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, fairly recently.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that would Why of.

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<v Speaker 1>All the people, would you grab him for your joke?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know anyway, I like Tony Danz. It just fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy to see him, amen, I remember you, But please

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<v Speaker 1>don't end up in the incinerator. Do you have any

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<v Speaker 1>fake parts?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, because we need to be able to identify either.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So smart. He could have just said, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>please fish out my artificial joints on your way so

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<v Speaker 1>that there's no evidence left. But yeah, but happy to

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<v Speaker 1>see more of Griffin done. That's fine. Yes, it's fine,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine. Everything, it's fine. Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and parenting wise, we get dude off kind of

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<v Speaker 2>being the oh yeah, parent to this whole family. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>he's the one, he's the patriarch. He brought them all

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<v Speaker 2>together from yes, various encounters, and you know he he

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<v Speaker 2>met them all in different ways, yes, and them all together.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was benevolent towards them. But they enriched his life,

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<v Speaker 1>which is rather like a parent parent child's situation. However,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't recommend that parents kill themselves and tell their

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<v Speaker 1>children to dispose of the body, right, don't do that

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<v Speaker 1>big circle and slash across that. Yeah, even if.

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<v Speaker 2>You're trying to spare one of them the pain of

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<v Speaker 2>your death, you really are messing with the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's not They should not be their job, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And since we're talking about found families, they also mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>that Maybel, Oliver and Charles are somewhat of a found

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<v Speaker 1>family themselves. And I feel like, though she is the youngest,

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<v Speaker 1>maybele is kind of the mom. I'm so sorry, sweetie.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nobody to take care of you. You're busy taking

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<v Speaker 1>care of them. They are going back to their posh

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<v Speaker 1>apartments and leaving you in whatever that place.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that you live.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, nobody's taking care of mabel I bet Eva Longoria

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<v Speaker 1>would take her under her wing in a second.

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<v Speaker 2>But well, and did it seem like Helga was going

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<v Speaker 2>to reclaim that apartment or.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I wondered about that. Yeah she should, but where

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<v Speaker 1>was she living like the roommate when was alive?

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<v Speaker 2>There must be another apartment. Yeah, because when Dudonov was alive,

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<v Speaker 2>he was living in the one where Mabel.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that's right, because he had the thing put in

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<v Speaker 1>the lock. Yeah, oh hell lot, and they bonded over

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<v Speaker 1>their mutual like of this card game I had never heard,

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<v Speaker 1>but which you tell me is actually a thing?

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<v Speaker 2>It is. I put a link in our show notes.

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<v Speaker 1>To nothing better for a family fun night than playing cards.

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<v Speaker 1>We have done that here, although our card of choices

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<v Speaker 1>un which wouldn't be quite long enough for the the lock.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd have to come up with something else, right.

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<v Speaker 2>We did not have any sighting of Bev mellon the

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<v Speaker 2>Molly's standing character. Sure, I didn't miss her.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why the volume was so.

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<v Speaker 2>I do like Molly Shannon, but yeah, we needed a

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<v Speaker 2>little break from.

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<v Speaker 1>Her weirdo sisters. No, no, the actors and they were

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<v Speaker 1>kind of on a lower key, although Eugene Levy was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get Charles to be angry. Just an actor thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're doing their actors things. Eva Longoria is having

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<v Speaker 1>such a great time parodying herself enter many products which

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<v Speaker 1>he's involunt Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We knew that that device having a recorder on it would.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that was a big yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to be coming into play for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And she still has it on there, so theoretically she

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<v Speaker 1>can make trouble with it, but I hope she does not.

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<v Speaker 1>If these people are legit what they say they are,

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<v Speaker 1>let them stay there in those crappy apartments, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with their ham Leave them be. But get that young

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she is.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, they're evolving this. I mean, how old is she

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be? Do we think?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's unclear.

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<v Speaker 1>We're involving her in because the Student of Dying was

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<v Speaker 1>a while ago, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean time is an elastic contract.

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<v Speaker 1>That is true. That is true. Ah, anyway, that's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I related to the thing at the beginning where they're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the joy of getting away from a place

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<v Speaker 1>that's full of family. Recently had some family over this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>It was great we had at the time. None of

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<v Speaker 1>them listened to this. But yes, my place is man

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<v Speaker 1>to my place, or yes, I get to go back

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<v Speaker 1>to my place.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, draw a picture of a pig on your wall.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. And you don't have to worry about people

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<v Speaker 1>being nice to your kids anymore when you leave family.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an element that was not part of this, but

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<v Speaker 1>that is always one with me. From a parenting point

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<v Speaker 1>of view, sometimes it's nice to just go back to

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<v Speaker 1>your little little immediate unit and not have to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>field comments about things. So and I imagine the Westi's

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<v Speaker 1>all enjoyed going back to their individual places. Thank gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>those famous people. They could just go back to playing

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm gonna hope there's a payoff and it

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't appreciate that you can't handle the truth joke?

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<v Speaker 1>which is that was that whole monologue thing just to

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<v Speaker 1>her accent, just to set up that joke. They started

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<v Speaker 1>with that joke and they worked backwards. No, stop that,

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<v Speaker 1>like the Tony Dance a thing. I will accept. That

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<v Speaker 1>was too far, dear, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, you're

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<v Speaker 1>pretty full of yourself, But this was this was somewhat

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, a breakthrough between Zach anaphylaxis and OL.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. But now the wedding has been moved to

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess suddenly possibly go back to We're not

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<v Speaker 1>And somebody this review I read mentioned is this going

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<v Speaker 1>to then be the sight of the next one? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds and we hope it's not. Meryl Streep, Loretta,

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<v Speaker 1>be she'd be cool with my wife. Loretta is working

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<v Speaker 1>out on the coast. She'll pop in for one episode please.

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<v Speaker 1>She's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Although they had no qualms about killing National Treasure Paul Rudd.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's true, although they then immediately brought him back

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<v Speaker 1>he's the murder right, So I think if you play

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<v Speaker 2>I will say for these last many episodes. There's been

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<v Speaker 2>no Saz flashbacks, that's true. We were really don't like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Of those. Yes, I thought she would be a running

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<v Speaker 1>commentary throughout. I'm disappointed. And also in these this huge

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<v Speaker 1>influx of outsiders we have received, we don't see any

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<v Speaker 1>of the apartment people anymore. Where's Zuma? Right? Uma has

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<v Speaker 1>like Uma in this episode at all? Either?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Numa had had one line so far.

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<v Speaker 1>This is they're just it's just like it's not the

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<v Speaker 1>same show a little bit, but eh, it's they're fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything is how many more episodes?

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<v Speaker 2>Two?

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<v Speaker 1>The next next, one of which has a really stupid name,

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<v Speaker 2>All right, well aright, shall we wrap that up? Shall

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<v Speaker 2>we go them?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we got a ding dong cut, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just move on.

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<v Speaker 2>So next week.

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<v Speaker 1>And why didn't nobody say when she said the ding

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<v Speaker 1>dong thing, you want us to give them a cupcake

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, like a the ding dong is a thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I went to Delicious Hostess Chocolate Confection and

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<v Speaker 1>nobody made Nobody made.

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<v Speaker 2>That that was coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, yes, come on, you can't mention that because I

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<v Speaker 1>would now want to go to the kitchen and I

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<v Speaker 1>have no ding Dons in the house, but my did

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoy myself at ding dong back in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>licking the foil at the end, just because chocolate.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, Yes, So next week we will discuss the ninth,

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<v Speaker 2>the penultimate episode of season four of Only Murders in

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<v Speaker 2>the Building. As you mentioned, the title is Escape from

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<v Speaker 2>Planet Clongo. So all right, presumably that's a movie they

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<v Speaker 2>all have been. And we'll see you back here tomorrow

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