1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,839 Speaker 1: Hello, EO, good morning doctor. How are you doing today? 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:04,799 Speaker 2: I'm doing great. 3 00:00:04,839 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: I hope you are doing fantastic. Very excited to share 4 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,560 a conversation with you about dangerously Obese because this has 5 00:00:10,599 --> 00:00:13,679 become our watch in this household. And the reason why 6 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,480 is because the one thing that I've learned about these 7 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,399 shows is that there are steps before the bad days 8 00:00:20,519 --> 00:00:23,000 start to set. In other words, what did we do 9 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,719 wrong in the beginning that triggered those bad days that 10 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,280 really were we started to expand something had to have 11 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:29,719 happened before that. Do you agree? 12 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,679 Speaker 3: I think in some cases yes, absolutely, there's generally some 13 00:00:34,719 --> 00:00:38,439 lifestyle issues in this. But you know, we've got patients 14 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,240 that have been heavy their entire lives, you know, literally 15 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,240 born heavy and don't remember a day where they were 16 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:44,719 ever a. 17 00:00:44,759 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 2: Quote unquote normal weight. 18 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,119 Speaker 3: And we've got patients where this sort of sprung up 19 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:54,159 on them in early adulthood. So there are always lifestyle 20 00:00:54,759 --> 00:00:57,039 decisions that have led into this. But you combine that 21 00:00:57,159 --> 00:01:00,799 with genetics and medications and our and our food supply 22 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:02,799 out there, it's a bad situation. 23 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:07,599 Speaker 1: What about those patients that were overweight? And shows sugar free, 24 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,280 sugar free, sugar free and I have learned the hard 25 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,359 way guy, that I've damaged my liver because all of 26 00:01:14,359 --> 00:01:17,120 these sugar free things are putting pressure on my liver. 27 00:01:17,239 --> 00:01:19,040 Now I got to go get blood tests all the time. 28 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,239 Speaker 3: You always have to be careful with the things that 29 00:01:23,239 --> 00:01:25,640 you're putting into your body. And I'll be the first 30 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,120 to say that, you know, I wish that there was 31 00:01:28,159 --> 00:01:30,319 a magic formula out there. If I just eat this 32 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,760 and I avoid that, that's going to completely transform my 33 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,840 body and we'll get back to things back to normal again. 34 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,400 Unfortunately biology just doesn't work that way. 35 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,439 Speaker 1: So now, is is there one trigger that gets people going? 36 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,280 I mean, because I mean, I mean, what is one 37 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,760 person seeing in their mirror versus what I'm seeing in 38 00:01:47,879 --> 00:01:49,560 my mirror? And I think that's the reason why I'm 39 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,840 so in love with this show, is that you give 40 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,159 us that reality. You're not painting pretty beautiful pictures. What 41 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,120 you're painting is, hey, look here is a situation. Let's 42 00:01:58,159 --> 00:01:59,200 all work on this together. 43 00:02:01,159 --> 00:02:01,959 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. 44 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,719 Speaker 3: And I wish I could point to one cause this 45 00:02:04,879 --> 00:02:08,680 is a multi factorial disease. So what requires a multidisciplinary approach? 46 00:02:08,759 --> 00:02:10,879 You'll see, and I hope it comes across in the show 47 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,439 that this isn't just about surgery, and we take the 48 00:02:13,479 --> 00:02:15,400 placeship to the operating room and the clouds par and 49 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,759 everything gets better again. It's going to require village, if 50 00:02:17,759 --> 00:02:20,719 you will. That means nutritional counseling to understand how to 51 00:02:20,759 --> 00:02:23,520 eat right. So many patients have never even really been 52 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,599 taught that there are psychological issues that are at hand here, 53 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,719 especially in the size of patients that you'll see on 54 00:02:30,759 --> 00:02:33,960 this and another television shows. There's a difference between being 55 00:02:34,439 --> 00:02:36,159 one hundred pounds of overweight and two hundred punds of 56 00:02:36,199 --> 00:02:38,319 aweight versus being six hundred punds overweight. So there's a 57 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,719 lot of psychology that's involved not only with the patient, 58 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,960 but also with their peers and the people who are 59 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,560 helping take care of them. So I hope that we'll 60 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,479 convey that this is a real disease that requires real 61 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:50,400 science to help it out. 62 00:02:50,759 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: Do you call it a brave commitment, because it really 63 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,719 is a moment of truth and honesty, and through transparency 64 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,439 you'll be able to look at what's going on and 65 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,319 start making choices and changes. 66 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 3: That's exactly right, and there is not a single formula 67 00:03:07,159 --> 00:03:09,360 that you can approach every single patient with you know, 68 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,159 we have multiple different procedures, we have multiple different avenues 69 00:03:13,199 --> 00:03:16,199 which which we can help patients out. If there were 70 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,639 just a you know, a single formula that helped every 71 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,719 single patient, this would be like a conveyor belt, right. 72 00:03:20,719 --> 00:03:24,039 But you'll see on this television show that every single 73 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,080 patient is a little bit different. Our first episode is 74 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,159 going to be a mother and daughter with very very 75 00:03:29,199 --> 00:03:33,120 different issues, but very real issues that both require a 76 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,919 little bit different approach. So uh, you know, I think 77 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,319 with other television shows in the past have sort of 78 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,159 just said listen, no thing, just yelling his patients and 79 00:03:40,199 --> 00:03:42,360 ridicule them into losing weight. You know that along with 80 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,319 the survey, is going to take care of everything. I 81 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,719 want people to see the human element behind what's going on. 82 00:03:47,039 --> 00:03:49,479 Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with doctor Charles Proctor 83 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:54,840 coming up next. The name of the show Dangerously Obese. 84 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,599 We're back with doctor Charles. I'm going to be very 85 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,800 honest and very very transparent with you. In this household, 86 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,080 one person is on ozimpic. I choose not to do ozempic. 87 00:04:04,159 --> 00:04:06,080 I want to do it the real natural way. But 88 00:04:06,159 --> 00:04:08,439 we're both losing and the thing but we're gaining. I 89 00:04:08,479 --> 00:04:10,479 don't want to say that we're losing the war. But 90 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,319 the thing is, though, is that I don't understand how 91 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,120 you do what you do and find focus in what 92 00:04:15,159 --> 00:04:16,680 you do if every one of us out here are 93 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:17,519 a different puzzle. 94 00:04:19,639 --> 00:04:20,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. 95 00:04:20,519 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 3: And you know, these GLP one medications that you just 96 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:28,879 mentioned are they've added a great piece of weaponry to 97 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,920 what we have and how we're able to approach these diseases. 98 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:32,079 Speaker 2: Now. 99 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:36,439 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, those medications are marketed to literally everybody, and we 100 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,120 generally say that they're usually not the answer to patients 101 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,879 whould otherwise benefit from bariatric surgery, but for people with 102 00:04:41,959 --> 00:04:43,519 lower BMIs. 103 00:04:43,199 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: They can be very very effective. 104 00:04:45,519 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 3: There is seems to be a bell curve where some 105 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,199 people are wildly successful the as medications and some people aren't. 106 00:04:51,439 --> 00:04:54,759 Regardless whether you are trying to lose weight with a 107 00:04:54,959 --> 00:04:59,319 GLP one medication or through traditional diet and exercise, the 108 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,279 recidivism or the weight regain rate is so high ninety 109 00:05:02,319 --> 00:05:05,639 plus percent that that's one of the reasons why these 110 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,399 aren't generally good long term answers for our patients who 111 00:05:08,439 --> 00:05:10,079 are say one hundred and more pounds overweight. 112 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,519 Speaker 1: I've lost friends because of this, people who have gone 113 00:05:13,519 --> 00:05:15,519 through the surgery, And I thought I was supposed to 114 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,279 be that friend that was supposed to say, what's going on? 115 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,720 Is there anything I can do to help? I've noticed 116 00:05:20,759 --> 00:05:23,879 you going back to older days and habits, and all 117 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,959 of a sudden, I'm ghosted. And it's like, what is 118 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,160 the best way to handle a situation like this when 119 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,360 you're walking through that storm every day? 120 00:05:31,399 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 2: Sir? It's a great point. 121 00:05:34,639 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 3: It's a great point, and people don't want their failures 122 00:05:37,519 --> 00:05:40,560 pointed out right. We are very quick to praise people 123 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,399 when we see that they've lost weight, and we're very 124 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,360 quick to you judge and at least behind their back 125 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,439 when we see that they've regained that weight afterwards. None 126 00:05:48,519 --> 00:05:50,800 of this, the best surgery in the world can't withstand 127 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,480 a bad diet. And I tell my patients that over 128 00:05:52,519 --> 00:05:54,519 and over and over again, which is another reason why 129 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,199 we try to keep that accountability of seeing those patients 130 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,560 for lifelong follow up. Nothing I hate to see more 131 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,720 in the world than somebody who's been wildly successful after 132 00:06:02,759 --> 00:06:05,199 a weight loss surgery or any other type of journey, 133 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,319 and to see them regain that weight. So you know, 134 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:11,480 what can you say to them? What can they do? 135 00:06:11,639 --> 00:06:13,319 You know, I would like to say, we let's put 136 00:06:13,319 --> 00:06:15,439 that in our hands. Just be there to support them 137 00:06:15,519 --> 00:06:18,000 and let them know that you know, they understand you 138 00:06:18,079 --> 00:06:20,480 understand their journey and that this is a very difficult thing. 139 00:06:20,519 --> 00:06:22,959 And listen, you know sometimes we fall off the forus, 140 00:06:22,959 --> 00:06:24,040 it's all about getting back on. 141 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: Well, you're not afraid to talk about the mental journey 142 00:06:26,519 --> 00:06:28,600 that goes on because I know that because I've gone 143 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,279 from two eleven to one seventy three. And I'll tell 144 00:06:31,319 --> 00:06:33,519 you once I started hitting the one seventies, I started 145 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,759 freaking out mentally because I am I sick? What's going on? 146 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,319 What's what's happening? What's happening? What are you dealing with 147 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,639 when you're going down one thousand pounds or more? 148 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 3: Doctor, Well, that's a really interesting thing. I think there 149 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,319 was a universal sentiment among patients when they've had this 150 00:06:49,399 --> 00:06:51,639 massive weight loss. When I say massive one hundred pounds, 151 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,759 two hundred, three hundred, we've had patients lose almost four 152 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,439 hundred pounds, right, and what they'll come back. They're excited 153 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,439 about the weight loss, they're excited about getting new clothed 154 00:06:58,439 --> 00:07:00,160 and all these kind of things, but behind the door 155 00:07:00,079 --> 00:07:01,920 or they'll tell me. You know what, doctor Proctor, I 156 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,240 look in the mirror and I don't see a difference. Yep, 157 00:07:04,319 --> 00:07:05,879 I see the same person that walked in here the 158 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:11,199 first day. So true and yeah, yeah, And I understand 159 00:07:11,279 --> 00:07:14,120 that that is a universal sentiment. And that's why I 160 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,199 tell people you really need to photo document this journey 161 00:07:17,279 --> 00:07:19,000 all the way along so you can see where you 162 00:07:19,079 --> 00:07:22,759 came from. Keep those pictures, understand this journey that you've 163 00:07:22,759 --> 00:07:24,800 made so you can look back and say, wow, I 164 00:07:24,839 --> 00:07:27,519 really did do this. But it's amazing how that's almost 165 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,399 a universal sentiment among all of our patients. 166 00:07:29,439 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: Well, I just love the fact that you are doing 167 00:07:31,079 --> 00:07:33,959 so well withous dangerously obese. And the reason why is 168 00:07:33,959 --> 00:07:35,879 because you are speaking the street I always call it. 169 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,720 You have dropped the four walls of the church and 170 00:07:37,759 --> 00:07:39,439 you are walking with the people on it. With a 171 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:40,040 show like this. 172 00:07:42,199 --> 00:07:43,759 Speaker 2: Thank you for saying that. I appreciate it. 173 00:07:43,839 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 3: One of the things that we want to do at 174 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,079 this particular show was get out of the office, get 175 00:07:47,079 --> 00:07:50,160 out of the operating room, and really show not only 176 00:07:50,199 --> 00:07:52,120 the lives of the patients, put us interacting with those 177 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,160 patients outside. Understand these are real people who are living 178 00:07:55,199 --> 00:07:58,360 real lives. And you know this isn't just made for 179 00:07:58,439 --> 00:08:01,360 TV or were making things up. Understand where these folks 180 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,560 are coming from. So I like that angle of it, 181 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,120 and I hope we can keep doing more of that. 182 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about you 183 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,199 and what you are doing, because I don't want people 184 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,120 to watch the episode and then go back to their 185 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:12,000 old habits. 186 00:08:14,199 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: Sure we can look at us. 187 00:08:17,319 --> 00:08:19,439 Speaker 3: Beltline Health is the name of our practice, and we 188 00:08:19,519 --> 00:08:21,279 have a large website that it has a lot of 189 00:08:21,319 --> 00:08:23,759 its teaching. A lot of the videos on there, Doctor 190 00:08:23,839 --> 00:08:27,120 Charlesprocter dot com has a lot of me talking about 191 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,319 the science and behind the disease of OBC and try 192 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,080 to promote a better understanding of this. 193 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,519 Speaker 1: Well, please come back to this show anytime in the future. 194 00:08:34,519 --> 00:08:34,759 Speaker 2: Doctor. 195 00:08:34,759 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: The door is always going to be open for you. 196 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,039 I can relate with where you're going. 197 00:08:39,919 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on. It is great talking to 198 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:41,960 you today. 199 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today? 200 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 2: Okay, I'll do my best.