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Speaker 2: What a dangerous week it is unfolding still to be
Speaker 2: after having been through an unprecedented week of whether and fire,
Speaker 2: there is still more concern today. The area of concern,
Speaker 2: it would seem, at least in the short to medium term,
Speaker 2: has shifted. And even as we watch the Palisades and
Speaker 2: we watch existing fires as they become encircled, the Eton fire,
Speaker 2: et cetera. The fire that broke out overnight is in
Speaker 2: Ventura County, and so forecasters are very concerned about an
Speaker 2: emerging phenomenon which essentially will bring us a wind event
Speaker 2: not along the lines of what I think can fairly
Speaker 2: be credit categorized as an unprecedented wind event that we
Speaker 2: saw last week, but events so severe that it could
Speaker 2: produce some serious issues around southern California. And already there
Speaker 2: are some serious issues. This Auto fire inventory county fifty
Speaker 2: six acres, no containment this as the Hearst Fire in
Speaker 2: Silmar continues eight hundred acres. There's ninety seven percent containment
Speaker 2: on that the Eating fire, sixteen people lost.
Speaker 3: Their lives thus far.
Speaker 2: In the Eating Fire, it's thirty five percent contained, just
Speaker 2: over fourteen thousand acres, and the Palisades Fire, of course,
Speaker 2: seventeen percent containment, eight souls gone in that almost twenty
Speaker 2: four thousand acres consumed. There are questions as to what
Speaker 2: caused these fires, and as you know, there are already
Speaker 2: lawsuits launched. As you know, I expected completely that there
Speaker 2: would be, given the fact that the Eating Fire likely
Speaker 2: possibly involved Southern California Edison, and so four lawsuits against
Speaker 2: Southern California Edison already launched. And these Altadena residents and
Speaker 2: who can blame them? They've lost everything, they're looking for answers,
Speaker 2: and they're looking for compensation. The Palisades Fire, their questions
Speaker 2: as to how that started, and those questions we're going
Speaker 2: to explore with an investigative journalist who's done.
Speaker 3: Some work in that area. Will do that next hour.
Speaker 2: But the genesis of so much of this, while critical,
Speaker 2: is only part of it, right. I mean, the supercharged
Speaker 2: nature of the winds is the thing that creates these
Speaker 2: urgent events, and again supercharge these events and makes them
Speaker 2: what they are. So we'll talk to a National Weather
Speaker 2: Service meteorologist at the bottom of this hour to get
Speaker 2: the wind to outlook for tonight and the next few days.
Speaker 2: It does look like later today and tonight there will
Speaker 2: be an increase in wind velocity, and that's when we're
Speaker 2: really the most concerned. So these red flag warnings that
Speaker 2: are up, they are in relation to a couple of components,
Speaker 2: one of which is the dryness of the air.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just so very dry.
Speaker 2: And you know by now you know and have heard
Speaker 2: all the information pertaining to these red flag warnings, but
Speaker 2: just to reiterate, it's it's the dryness. It's the drought.
Speaker 2: It's the persistent month after month with no rain, and
Speaker 2: with the preceding two years having been so wet, you
Speaker 2: have so much fuel and it's so available, and so
Speaker 2: you add that with the wind and you have a
Speaker 2: prescription for a very dangerous situation. That's the situation that
Speaker 2: unfolds later tonight, and so the wind out look for
Speaker 2: tonight in the next few days, we will get as
Speaker 2: I say, at the bottom of the hour, the long
Speaker 2: time Santa Monica mayor will join us in the eleven
Speaker 2: o'clock hour, and we'll get a sense for how that
Speaker 2: community is bearing up under this situation. And finally, I've
Speaker 2: perceived so many emails about animals and about what's happening
Speaker 2: with wildlife. You know, I'm very close to the animal
Speaker 2: activist community and to the rescue community, and for that reason,
Speaker 2: I think people ping me maybe more frequently with questions
Speaker 2: about this. And this is an extraordinary situation for people.
Speaker 2: It's an extraordinary situation for property, and it's an extraordinary
Speaker 2: situation for wildlife, and then of course for our pets.
Speaker 2: And into that extraordinary situation come extraordinary people. I mean,
Speaker 2: one of the great things about what's happened in southern
Speaker 2: California is we've seen the very best of this community
Speaker 2: come together and it's an extraordinary thing. I mean, you
Speaker 2: I know, there are looters and they're arsonists. This is
Speaker 2: the vile, grotesque part of society. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: facing this unprecedented challenge, you see unprecedented gifts of generosity
Speaker 2: within the community. You see the best of the community.
Speaker 2: And so there are many people involved in the animal
Speaker 2: activism or the animal rescue community that are going into
Speaker 2: a lot of these areas. And we're going in while
Speaker 2: the flames were still firing and rescuing animals that were orphaned,
Speaker 2: now leaving water for wildlife. Wildlife has been desperately decimated
Speaker 2: by this.
Speaker 3: Also.
Speaker 2: They're heartbreaking stories of many people, believe it or not,
Speaker 2: leaving animals behind in their residence. They thought, I'll be back.
Speaker 2: This evacuation is temporary. I'll be back in another day
Speaker 2: or so, and it's too hard to wrangle the cat
Speaker 2: or the dog, or to get everybody in the car,
Speaker 2: et cetera. Well, as you know, in the evacuation zone.
Speaker 2: And you know, I've evacuated a couple of times. As
Speaker 2: you know, we our neighborhood burned in the Getty fire.
Speaker 2: You aren't allowed back in. I mean, that's the situation
Speaker 2: right now. You've been evacuated in many of these areas,
Speaker 2: Santa Monica, Pallisades, Malibu, I don't care up in Alzadena, whatever,
Speaker 2: if you've been evacuated. In most cases, they do not
Speaker 2: let people back in, even if you're a resident, and
Speaker 2: there are a lot of reasons for that.
Speaker 3: They have to secure this area and make sure it's safe.
Speaker 2: And what's happened in many of these instances is these
Speaker 2: animals are left behind and they're left to die and
Speaker 2: so I we're going to talk to somebody who's involved
Speaker 2: with the organizations that are associated with going back into
Speaker 2: these areas to rescue these animals.
Speaker 3: And it's not just a feel good story.
Speaker 2: There's a lot that can be seen and read into
Speaker 2: any one of these stories that speaks to the overall
Speaker 2: problems with and I might say, we will identify them
Speaker 2: as problems. But also, like you know, I hate to
Speaker 2: use the term teachable moment, but you know, a learning
Speaker 2: in this crisis about what we need to do. Systems
Speaker 2: need to be buffed out, man, I mean, this is
Speaker 2: not acceptable some of what's going on within the fire's
Speaker 2: aftermath warning systems, et cetera. And so we're seeing the
Speaker 2: community come together, but we're also seeing the politics, and
Speaker 2: we're seeing the strategies moving forward come together and be planned. Already,
Speaker 2: I can tell you to night's wind event will be
Speaker 2: treated in a better way from an organizational standpoint then
Speaker 2: the last one was. And yet I didn't really feel
Speaker 2: as though the last one was horribly handled from the
Speaker 2: standpoint of firefighting law enforcement. Now there's gonna have to
Speaker 2: be a real x raying of all of this. And
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, I mean I see a lot
Speaker 2: of the failings, but I guess the point I'm trying
Speaker 2: to make is in each instance, systems can be buffed up.
Speaker 2: I mean, we can definitely improve these systems so that
Speaker 2: each one of these events and there will be more,
Speaker 2: can be handled in a better fashion. And so I
Speaker 2: use the animals in the basically as a platform to
Speaker 2: make a point about these other issues. Because the animal
Speaker 2: situation isn't being handled well, LA City isn't handling that well,
Speaker 2: and you'll learn more. And similarly, people need help and
Speaker 2: need to interact with public officials and official websites that
Speaker 2: can point them in the right direction. And that also
Speaker 2: has to be upgraded. So all of the upgrades and
Speaker 2: all of the systems and strategies moving forward will be
Speaker 2: informed by what we've just been through. But this is
Speaker 2: an awful way to see things upgraded at all that
Speaker 2: we have to live through what we've just lived through.
Speaker 2: This is an unprecedented, horrifying event. But we can improve
Speaker 2: from it, and we have no choice but to improve
Speaker 2: from it. So we'll get to as I say, the
Speaker 2: weather for this afternoon tonight and moving forward.
Speaker 3: Next few days.
Speaker 2: As we talked to meteorologists later in the hour and
Speaker 2: then the likely causes of some of these fires as
Speaker 2: we continue. It's so weird to see the weather so
Speaker 2: you know, sparkling and bright away from the fires, when
Speaker 2: there is a life and death struggle being played out
Speaker 2: in the areas with the fire. And we're expecting, of course,
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Speaker 2: As I say, we beg you know, begin this sear
Speaker 2: and continue to follow the thread of what's happening all
Speaker 2: over southern California and how we are on fire weather watch.
Speaker 2: But I do want to say congratulations to the Los
Speaker 2: Angeles Rams. It was an amazing distraction from a lot
Speaker 2: of what was going on last night. If you had
Speaker 2: the luxury of being able to watch it, I know
Speaker 2: many were evacuating or preparing or packing. We were in
Speaker 2: my house, but I was watching on the phone. I
Speaker 2: was watching the Rams game and was astounded at how
Speaker 2: dominant they were. And I'll tell you something else. It's
Speaker 2: moving to see the way in which that team and
Speaker 2: Arizona and that team ownership reached out to the Rams
Speaker 2: organization and essentially reconfigured a lot of their stadium to
Speaker 2: make it feel like Los Angeles, all to help lift
Speaker 2: a community that needed a lift. And then this, I
Speaker 2: will tell you, and this is just maybe the softy
Speaker 2: that I am, but through the weekend, and I you know,
Speaker 2: maybe you just have to know this. I mean, we
Speaker 2: did lose our neighborhood to the Getty fires, So I'm
Speaker 2: everything about fire lands harder with us in my house.
Speaker 2: But when they did that moment of silence before all
Speaker 2: the games, all the playoff games. I choked up. It's
Speaker 2: really a powerful thing. And so when I was watching
Speaker 2: the Rams game and there it is. I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: it's not just a playoff game. It's the game with
Speaker 2: the team that is in a sense representing your community
Speaker 2: that has been touched by the same tragedy urgency that
Speaker 2: we all have been touched by. I found it very moving,
Speaker 2: I really did. And then of course the dominant nature
Speaker 2: in which the Rams won, it was just for it
Speaker 2: was a little bit of happiness, you know, as an Angelina,
Speaker 2: you just felt, Wow, this is really terrific. Look, Los
Speaker 2: Angeles has problems, but I think it's a great place
Speaker 2: to live. I have a terrific decade after decade love
Speaker 2: affair with California. I've dreamt of living here. I grew
Speaker 2: up on the East Coast. I dreamt every day, i
Speaker 2: want to say, of moving to California. It seemed like
Speaker 2: the promised land. I saw the weather when I'd watched
Speaker 2: sporting events. Everyone was happy. The weather was always better
Speaker 2: than the weather we were enduring on the East Coast.
Speaker 2: There's the topography here, the mountains, the ocean, the diversity,
Speaker 2: show business, which I love, creative people, different opinions, a
Speaker 2: connection I think to a lot of issues and a
Speaker 2: lot of lifestyles. I'm talking about healthy lifestyles, alternative life,
Speaker 2: you know, all that stuff. California has been an incubator
Speaker 2: for all of it, and then we export that essentially
Speaker 2: to the rest of the country. It's historically been that way,
Speaker 2: and we've lived that, and I'm telling you my love
Speaker 2: affair with California continues. And again, I lost a house
Speaker 2: to fire, I lost a neighborhood to fire. We are
Speaker 2: beyond frightened. I could tell you all the things we've
Speaker 2: had to do to sort of just chill out the
Speaker 2: intense emotions in our home. And I still love Los
Speaker 2: Angeles and it's not a place that doesn't have big problems,
Speaker 2: big city problems.
Speaker 3: But we will get through this.
Speaker 2: And the great things about this community, those great things
Speaker 2: are coming out and I'm so proud to live here,
Speaker 2: and I hope I can continue to live here. So
Speaker 2: where did new fires emerge? Overnight? Ventura County? That was
Speaker 2: an alarming re emergence of fire in a new location.
Speaker 4: The auto fire is burning behind this golf course behind me.
Speaker 4: But the good news is firefighters have stopped the forward
Speaker 4: progress of course, the concern here this morning is still
Speaker 4: going to be the wind. And I want to go
Speaker 4: to some video that we have overnight of the auto
Speaker 4: fire which started just before seven pm. And the fire
Speaker 4: is burning and nears some car dealerships on Auto Center Drive.
Speaker 4: Those dealerships are not threatened. Again, the forward progress of
Speaker 4: this fire has stopped at fifty six acres and the
Speaker 4: fire is confined to the Santa Clara river bed now.
Speaker 4: Despite this fire breaking out amid red flag conditions, fortunately
Speaker 4: no structures are threatened.
Speaker 5: But like we've been talking, it does.
Speaker 2: Seem as though it's the location of that fire that
Speaker 2: has favored containment even though it is not contained. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm looking at right here the latest zero percent containment,
Speaker 2: But the acreage doesn't seem to have grown on that
Speaker 2: auto fire in Mentory County, and that's largely I think
Speaker 2: it's proximity to water, and you know, again maybe wind
Speaker 2: direction helps them.
Speaker 4: But like we've been talking about all morning, winds are
Speaker 4: still a problem this morning, and we have some video
Speaker 4: of the wind in the San Fernando Valley overnight. The
Speaker 4: National Weather Service has issued a particularly Dangerous situation red
Speaker 4: flag warning like you mentioned Leslie, and it's the highest
Speaker 4: level alert the agency is capable of issuing.
Speaker 3: For Yeah, we're going to.
Speaker 2: Talk about that, and we're going to talk about it
Speaker 2: with the National Weather Service meteorologist a little bit later
Speaker 2: in this hour. It is somewhat extraordinary that they've issued
Speaker 2: that particular warning.
Speaker 3: We'll talk about that.
Speaker 2: But the auto fire Inventura County again fifty six acres.
Speaker 2: I do want to talk about what's happening in the
Speaker 2: San Fernando Valley and we're going to talk with Lindsay
Speaker 2: Horrvorat next. She's a supervisor and that's her area, a
Speaker 2: council councilman of the third district. Third district is the valley,
Speaker 2: and we will get to that next. So you know,
Speaker 2: all of the different municipalities and all the different areas
Speaker 2: that make up the tapestry of southern California, we'll try
Speaker 2: to address as many as we can as we continue
Speaker 2: this morning. Again, we'll talk to a councilman of horror
Speaker 2: At next later in this hour, National Weather Service mediorologists.
Speaker 2: Next hour, the investigative journalist Cecy Woods on the origins
Speaker 2: of the Palisades fire, and we continue. Mark Thompson sitting
Speaker 2: in Keana's here, Jacobs here, Amy's here. It is a
Speaker 2: situation that is fast breaking when it comes to the fire,
Speaker 2: so we're watching them. The Auto fire Inventora County, it's
Speaker 2: one hundred percent contained. Just wanted to get that clear
Speaker 2: talking about that before the break. The Hearst fire and
Speaker 2: still more ninety seven percent contained, so close to total containment.
Speaker 2: The Eton thirty five percent contained, and the Palisades fire
Speaker 2: seventeen percent containment. More on that as the morning and
Speaker 2: afternoon progresses. I want to welcome in to the conversation
Speaker 2: the councilman from the third district, Lindsay horvat High Lindsay, no, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, okay, so we don't have her. Sorry, well,
Speaker 2: at least I didn't, you know, if i'd done like
Speaker 2: a ninety second intro on how proud we are to
Speaker 2: have her and how important she is. But I didn't.
Speaker 2: I just did a short thing. So it's fine. It's
Speaker 2: interesting though. We are going to have a Lindsay on
Speaker 2: and we'll talk about a little bit. When it comes
Speaker 2: to briefings, these council people sometimes are briefed in ways
Speaker 2: that the rest of us are not, even in the
Speaker 2: media and so I'm anxious to know exactly where we
Speaker 2: stand in turns of information that she might have. Hi,
Speaker 2: Counsel Horvath, are you there?
Speaker 6: Yes, Lendsy Horbek, supervisor for the third district.
Speaker 2: Yes, there you go. And the third district is the valley?
Speaker 2: Am I right? What part of the valley is the
Speaker 2: third district?
Speaker 6: A lot of the value portion of the Stanford Inda
Speaker 6: Valley is in the third district.
Speaker 3: So what are you learning?
Speaker 2: I was just mentioning as we were waiting to get
Speaker 2: you on what are you learning in briefings that your
Speaker 2: party two that might be important for the public to know.
Speaker 6: Well, we are not out of this yet. We are
Speaker 6: going into again some record wins in terms of our
Speaker 6: particularly dangerous situation. So we want to make sure everybody
Speaker 6: is following evacuation orders and notices. We also want people
Speaker 6: to be prepared for power shut offs. So even if
Speaker 6: you don't live in the immediate area where you're expecting
Speaker 6: a fire, your power may be shut off in order
Speaker 6: to help in the areas where there is a fire.
Speaker 6: So we're encouraging charge their devices, charge backup batteries, and
Speaker 6: be prepared.
Speaker 2: Did you see some of that power outages and power
Speaker 2: shutdowns and involuntary shutdowns last week.
Speaker 6: We have seen power shutoffs throughout whenever we have these
Speaker 6: very extreme winds. In some cases it is a preventative measure.
Speaker 6: In some cases it's in response to what's happening on
Speaker 6: the ground. And I've seen, you know, being on the
Speaker 6: ground in a variety of these areas, including in the Palisades.
Speaker 6: We've seen you know, light poles that bent over streets,
Speaker 6: us live wires and and you know, disconnected utility equipment.
Speaker 6: And so we know there are a lot of frontline
Speaker 6: workers from our utility companies that are out there working
Speaker 6: to restore where it is safe and to make sure
Speaker 6: that the equipment is being cleared in order for these
Speaker 6: areas to be safe for people to return. But there's
Speaker 6: a lot of work to be done on the ground,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 2: As you know, we've been through such a dramatic and
Speaker 2: intense incident already, and now we're beginning what may be
Speaker 2: a ramp up to another very dramatic and intense incident.
Speaker 2: And so this is an odd time to do what
Speaker 2: we're doing, which is looking ahead but also looking back
Speaker 2: what we've just been through. So it's in the looking
Speaker 2: back part that I ask you, do you see things
Speaker 2: that you'd like to improve upon?
Speaker 6: Absolutely? And I think I think that's not only human nature.
Speaker 6: I think it's good government. We have to hold ourselves
Speaker 6: accountable and see if there were things that could have
Speaker 6: been done differently. I also would say that now, looking forward,
Speaker 6: given the devastation that we're facing, we have a unique
Speaker 6: opportunity to invest in an equipment and facilities on the ground,
Speaker 6: knowing what our twenty first century realities are that we
Speaker 6: didn't have, you know, when this community, when some of
Speaker 6: these communities were being built more than one hundred years ago.
Speaker 6: So what kind of facilities do we want for our
Speaker 6: twenty first century reality, whether that's water reservoirs, whether it's
Speaker 6: undergrounding of utility equipment. What can we take advantage of
Speaker 6: now to ensure that while we are rebuilding, we're doing
Speaker 6: so in a way that is safe, that is mindful,
Speaker 6: that is using the home hardening practices that we know
Speaker 6: our best practice. Now, there's a lot of lessons learned
Speaker 6: over time, and we have to take all of that
Speaker 6: into account as we're thinking about our future.
Speaker 2: And whose responsibility is that? I mean, I love that
Speaker 2: list that you just mentioned. It seems like a really
Speaker 2: solid list. And as voters and as constituents, who do
Speaker 2: we push back on to see if follow through on
Speaker 2: some of those things?
Speaker 6: Well, everybody is. Everybody is responsible, and I would say
Speaker 6: that's why we're taking a look at what are all
Speaker 6: of the things that we want to evaluate in our
Speaker 6: after action plan. We're putting this list together in concert
Speaker 6: with my colleagues. We're working with our department directors to
Speaker 6: talk with them. I mean, these conversations are already happening,
Speaker 6: and it's because, at least on the county side, I
Speaker 6: can say definitively, these conversations happen after there's every incident,
Speaker 6: no matter what level and scale. Outside of after Wolsey,
Speaker 6: the county learned that there was uncoordinated communication. If they
Speaker 6: communicated with law enforcement versus fire, versus the supervisor's office,
Speaker 6: they often got different answers, which contributed to confusion and frustration.
Speaker 6: So that's how the Office of Emergency Management was created,
Speaker 6: how communications were centralized, and new systems were put into place.
Speaker 6: And you know, we will continue to build on the experience.
Speaker 6: You know, I spoke with residents in the valley who
Speaker 6: talked about the Getty fire and when they were evacuating,
Speaker 6: you know, and they closed down the four or five
Speaker 6: some of the canyon streets that were supposed to be
Speaker 6: used for as evacuation routes for residents were also being
Speaker 6: used by commuters who are trying to get to work.
Speaker 6: So over the weekend we had the conversation as we
Speaker 6: were going into this PDS event, how do we proactively
Speaker 6: think about evacuation routes and prioritize the safety of people
Speaker 6: who live in those areas so they can get out
Speaker 6: and they're not contending with commuter traffic. These lessons learned
Speaker 6: have to be implemented both in long term planning and
Speaker 6: in real time on the ground. And of course nothing's
Speaker 6: going to be perfect, but we have to challenge ourselves
Speaker 6: to improve and do better on the ground in real time.
Speaker 2: Well, when you look back at the decades in southern California,
Speaker 2: and I think back to nineteen sixty one the bel
Speaker 2: Air fire, where the fire jumped that four or five
Speaker 2: area into a Brentwood and raced up that section, they
Speaker 2: completely changed the fire access roads and they made a
Speaker 2: wholesale change. And as you suggested, through the decades, as
Speaker 2: we've endured more fires, there have been more substantial strategies
Speaker 2: laid down and more substantial changes, and then to the
Speaker 2: modern era or the more modern era and what we're
Speaker 2: dealing with now. But this is just such an unprecedented event.
Speaker 2: I mean, with these super charge atmospheric conditions, it seems
Speaker 2: as though were must limited in what we can really
Speaker 2: do given those kinds of environments.
Speaker 6: You know, well, I think we're limited in terms of
Speaker 6: you know, people are saying, what if we had fifteen
Speaker 6: thousand We have more than fifteen thousand people out there, now,
Speaker 6: what if we had fifteen thousand more? And I will say,
Speaker 6: in this moment, it's not a question of personnel when
Speaker 6: you're contending with the kinds of winds that we're seeing.
Speaker 6: You know, we can have all kinds of aircraft ready
Speaker 6: to deploy, but if the winds are at seventy miles
Speaker 6: an hour, you can't deploy them, and they're of no
Speaker 6: help to the circumstance. So you really have to address
Speaker 6: the reality that's on the ground. It's like saying, if
Speaker 6: you sent you know, tens of thousands more people to respond,
Speaker 6: you know, when Hurricane Katrina was hitting, then suddenly somehow
Speaker 6: it wouldn't have been as bad. You know, it's a
Speaker 6: natural disaster and it's called such for a reason, But
Speaker 6: that doesn't mean we shouldn't be prepared in all of
Speaker 6: the ways that we need to, both as a government
Speaker 6: and through all of our various agencies as well as
Speaker 6: informing the public on how to be prepared. And we've
Speaker 6: done this in our district. We've hosted several emergency preparedness
Speaker 6: trainings throughout my district in the northeast San Fernando Valley
Speaker 6: in the Santa Monica Mountains. We did one at Skurball
Speaker 6: Center for folks both in the valley and on the
Speaker 6: west side. And we are doing this based on our experience.
Speaker 6: We know that people need to have access to information.
Speaker 6: It's what keeps them safe, and getting them this information
Speaker 6: when you're not in a time of emergency is ideal.
Speaker 6: That being said, we also know that many times people
Speaker 6: are not paying attention until the emergency comes to them,
Speaker 6: and so we know people are paying attention now and
Speaker 6: we hope that as we move forwards, people will engage
Speaker 6: in emergency preparedness efforts. So God's forbid there is another
Speaker 6: time like this, they are ready. We know that these
Speaker 6: PDS situations like the one that we're in right now.
Speaker 6: There's only been four. There's been four in just recent months,
Speaker 6: and there hadn't been any since twenty twenty, so it's
Speaker 6: been more than four years. And now we've had, you know,
Speaker 6: several in just a couple of months. So we are
Speaker 6: seeing extreme conditions that you know, our chief has said
Speaker 6: no amount of personnel could have prevented, and what we
Speaker 6: faced last week, and yet we staged what we knew,
Speaker 6: We staged what cal Fire and County Fire and all
Speaker 6: of the best experts predicted to have ready to go.
Speaker 6: And then we do better, I mean, but we have
Speaker 6: to explore what worked well and what didn't work so
Speaker 6: we can do better.
Speaker 2: Sure, and this doesn't clearly seem like a personnel situation
Speaker 2: at all. Those all seemed like super solid. Take so,
Speaker 2: Lindsay Horvat, thank you and good luck to you in
Speaker 2: the third district. Lindsay, of course, is the LA County
Speaker 2: Board of Supervisor there for the third district, which covers
Speaker 2: so much of the valley, and we're all hanging on tight.
Speaker 3: Let's stay in touch. Thank you, appreciate you joining us on.
Speaker 2: Kofi couldn't even make it through it for one hour
Speaker 2: without it, and I'm even more excited about the fact
Speaker 2: that I had nothing to do with this mistake. Now,
Speaker 2: I wonder if we could just get a what happened?
Speaker 2: I misidentify Kanna Lindsay Horvath.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think we accidentally said that.
Speaker 3: When you say we accidentally.
Speaker 7: I accidentally said. I think it was in the heat
Speaker 7: of the moment. But she is part of the Board
Speaker 7: of Supervisors.
Speaker 3: She's a supervisor.
Speaker 5: Then she's the chairman of the Board of Supervisor.
Speaker 2: You go, yeah, so Amy must have been laying out
Speaker 2: and letting us just you didn't catch it, then, Amy,
Speaker 2: when we.
Speaker 5: First luckily I was listening to congressional hearings when that happened.
Speaker 2: Okay, I want to apologize. So what would her official
Speaker 2: title be?
Speaker 5: Chairperson or chairman of the Board of Supervisor Chairman.
Speaker 3: Of the board.
Speaker 2: Okay, I want to apologize to Lindsay Horvath for that.
Speaker 5: Oh wait, I got it wrong. Now I'm thinking of
Speaker 5: Catherine Barger.
Speaker 3: This is outrageous.
Speaker 2: I come in here, fill in, and this is the
Speaker 2: kind of everybody's just getting sloppy. I need the same
Speaker 2: kind of I need the focus that you give Gary
Speaker 2: and Shannon. All Right, so she's with the l She
Speaker 2: is a supervisor supervisor for the third district, which is
Speaker 2: the valley. She's the La County Board of Supervisor supervisor
Speaker 2: from the third district, which is much of the San
Speaker 2: Fernando Valley.
Speaker 7: Yes, right now we have Mike Wafford with the National
Speaker 7: Weather Service meteorologists.
Speaker 2: All right, very good, thank you, Kenna. All right, you'll
Speaker 2: be yellowcarded as a result of this, but not red carded.
Speaker 2: All right, Mike, good morning, thanks to your patience, and
Speaker 2: good morning. This is it's a pair of extraordinary events
Speaker 2: that have got the first being last week and then
Speaker 2: the second being what's coming.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so we're actually looking at a little bit less
Speaker 8: win today than we thought. The winds are coming in
Speaker 8: a little bit lighter, which is good news. Generally under
Speaker 8: about thirty miles per hour so far this morning. We
Speaker 8: are expecting a little bit of an uptick as we
Speaker 8: move into the afternoon today. But the good news is
Speaker 8: for the Palisades Fire, we're still looking at generally light
Speaker 8: winds under twenty miles per hour there today and tomorrow
Speaker 8: another little increase, but again mostly in the same areas
Speaker 8: as today. Probably not too bad. We're kind of looking
Speaker 8: at some models for tomorrow a little bit less than
Speaker 8: what we had originally thought, So hopefully that will be true,
Speaker 8: be a little bit better news.
Speaker 3: Oh that's terrific news. Terrific news. Yeah.
Speaker 8: And getting into later in the week, we're looking pretty good. Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
Speaker 8: Looks like we have a good solid break in the
Speaker 8: wind actually turning onshore, our traditional sea breeze coming in
Speaker 8: to bring in a little bit more humidity, helping the
Speaker 8: firefighting efforts as we get into the weekend. So there
Speaker 8: was talk.
Speaker 2: Mike Wafford trying interrupt, I'm just going There was talk
Speaker 2: of a rain event or possibility of some precipitation.
Speaker 3: Can you speak to that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that doesn't really look like that's going to happen.
Speaker 8: We were looking at that a couple of days ago.
Speaker 8: There was some indications that we might get a little
Speaker 8: bit of rain. But that chance is dwindle to under
Speaker 8: five percent right now, so that's not a really a
Speaker 8: viable option.
Speaker 2: So when you look at long term forecast now there
Speaker 2: is just nothing on the horizon. Is this a this
Speaker 2: is a blocking ridge of high pressure, or the jet
Speaker 2: is just so far north? What is the what are
Speaker 2: the realities concerning the variables here.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Sadly, there really isn't anything that we're seeing on
Speaker 8: our longer range models that suggest anything you know, that's
Speaker 8: going to drop, anything you know that's going to help
Speaker 8: us out. It looks like it's basically a dry pattern
Speaker 8: all the way through the end of the month.
Speaker 3: And that's for the entire state or just southern California.
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, I was just looking at the southern California
Speaker 8: area at this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a It's somewhat extraordinary. After two very wet
Speaker 2: winters we get a persistent drought pattern, I suppose, isn't it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, we're moving into we're seeing some drought signals you know,
Speaker 8: coming up, and as I said, the long range doesn't
Speaker 8: look good. This is so far, at least the second
Speaker 8: driest start to the winner that we've ever.
Speaker 3: Had, So I just want to reiterate.
Speaker 2: Then, the good news is that this next event looks
Speaker 2: as though it may not be as bad. It's clearly
Speaker 2: already we weren't expecting to be quite as bad as
Speaker 2: last week, but still it was going to be pretty bad.
Speaker 2: It looks as though it's going to be a little
Speaker 2: bit better than we'd anticipated though, even for this week,
Speaker 2: that is to say slightly, what would you say, maybe
Speaker 2: twenty percent better than you thought it would be.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I would say something like that. That definitely an
Speaker 8: improvement there. And you know the good news, even better
Speaker 8: news is that you know where the fires are still
Speaker 8: being dealt with at this time, the winds are even
Speaker 8: lighter in those areas, So that's good.
Speaker 3: Look.
Speaker 2: I love the Weather Service. I think you guys do
Speaker 2: a great job. And I think lost in all of
Speaker 2: this is the accuracy with which these forecasts have at
Speaker 2: least braced us for impact, even though the impact has
Speaker 2: been pretty intense. So to all of the forecasters there
Speaker 2: and to all the support people are great.
Speaker 3: Thanks, thank you, Mike Wilford.
Speaker 8: Well, thank you so much. We really appreciate that.
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