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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 2>What a dangerous week it is unfolding still to be

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<v Speaker 2>after having been through an unprecedented week of whether and fire,

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<v Speaker 2>there is still more concern today. The area of concern,

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<v Speaker 2>it would seem, at least in the short to medium term,

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<v Speaker 2>has shifted. And even as we watch the Palisades and

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<v Speaker 2>we watch existing fires as they become encircled, the Eton fire,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera. The fire that broke out overnight is in

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<v Speaker 2>Ventura County, and so forecasters are very concerned about an

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<v Speaker 2>emerging phenomenon which essentially will bring us a wind event

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<v Speaker 2>not along the lines of what I think can fairly

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<v Speaker 2>be credit categorized as an unprecedented wind event that we

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<v Speaker 2>saw last week, but events so severe that it could

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<v Speaker 2>produce some serious issues around southern California. And already there

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<v Speaker 2>are some serious issues. This Auto fire inventory county fifty

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<v Speaker 2>six acres, no containment this as the Hearst Fire in

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<v Speaker 2>Silmar continues eight hundred acres. There's ninety seven percent containment

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<v Speaker 2>on that the Eating fire, sixteen people lost.

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<v Speaker 3>Their lives thus far.

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<v Speaker 2>In the Eating Fire, it's thirty five percent contained, just

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<v Speaker 2>over fourteen thousand acres, and the Palisades Fire, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen percent containment, eight souls gone in that almost twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four thousand acres consumed. There are questions as to what

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<v Speaker 2>caused these fires, and as you know, there are already

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<v Speaker 2>lawsuits launched. As you know, I expected completely that there

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<v Speaker 2>would be, given the fact that the Eating Fire likely

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<v Speaker 2>possibly involved Southern California Edison, and so four lawsuits against

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<v Speaker 2>Southern California Edison already launched. And these Altadena residents and

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<v Speaker 2>who can blame them? They've lost everything, they're looking for answers,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're looking for compensation. The Palisades Fire, their questions

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<v Speaker 2>as to how that started, and those questions we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to explore with an investigative journalist who's done.

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<v Speaker 3>Some work in that area. Will do that next hour.

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<v Speaker 2>But the genesis of so much of this, while critical,

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<v Speaker 2>is only part of it, right. I mean, the supercharged

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<v Speaker 2>nature of the winds is the thing that creates these

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<v Speaker 2>urgent events, and again supercharge these events and makes them

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<v Speaker 2>what they are. So we'll talk to a National Weather

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<v Speaker 2>Service meteorologist at the bottom of this hour to get

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<v Speaker 2>the wind to outlook for tonight and the next few days.

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<v Speaker 2>It does look like later today and tonight there will

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<v Speaker 2>be an increase in wind velocity, and that's when we're

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<v Speaker 2>really the most concerned. So these red flag warnings that

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<v Speaker 2>are up, they are in relation to a couple of components,

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<v Speaker 2>one of which is the dryness of the air.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's just so very dry.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know by now you know and have heard

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<v Speaker 2>all the information pertaining to these red flag warnings, but

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<v Speaker 2>just to reiterate, it's it's the dryness. It's the drought.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the persistent month after month with no rain, and

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<v Speaker 2>with the preceding two years having been so wet, you

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<v Speaker 2>have so much fuel and it's so available, and so

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<v Speaker 2>you add that with the wind and you have a

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<v Speaker 2>prescription for a very dangerous situation. That's the situation that

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<v Speaker 2>unfolds later tonight, and so the wind out look for

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<v Speaker 2>tonight in the next few days, we will get as

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<v Speaker 2>I say, at the bottom of the hour, the long

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<v Speaker 2>time Santa Monica mayor will join us in the eleven

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock hour, and we'll get a sense for how that

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<v Speaker 2>community is bearing up under this situation. And finally, I've

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<v Speaker 2>perceived so many emails about animals and about what's happening

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<v Speaker 2>with wildlife. You know, I'm very close to the animal

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<v Speaker 2>activist community and to the rescue community, and for that reason,

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<v Speaker 2>I think people ping me maybe more frequently with questions

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<v Speaker 2>about this. And this is an extraordinary situation for people.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an extraordinary situation for property, and it's an extraordinary

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<v Speaker 2>situation for wildlife, and then of course for our pets.

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<v Speaker 2>And into that extraordinary situation come extraordinary people. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the great things about what's happened in southern

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<v Speaker 2>California is we've seen the very best of this community

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<v Speaker 2>come together and it's an extraordinary thing. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>I know, there are looters and they're arsonists. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the vile, grotesque part of society. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>facing this unprecedented challenge, you see unprecedented gifts of generosity

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<v Speaker 2>within the community. You see the best of the community.

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<v Speaker 2>And so there are many people involved in the animal

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<v Speaker 2>activism or the animal rescue community that are going into

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of these areas. And we're going in while

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<v Speaker 2>the flames were still firing and rescuing animals that were orphaned,

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<v Speaker 2>now leaving water for wildlife. Wildlife has been desperately decimated

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<v Speaker 3>Also.

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<v Speaker 2>They're heartbreaking stories of many people, believe it or not,

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<v Speaker 2>leaving animals behind in their residence. They thought, I'll be back.

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<v Speaker 2>This evacuation is temporary. I'll be back in another day

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<v Speaker 2>or so, and it's too hard to wrangle the cat

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<v Speaker 2>or the dog, or to get everybody in the car,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera. Well, as you know, in the evacuation zone.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I've evacuated a couple of times. As

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we our neighborhood burned in the Getty fire.

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<v Speaker 2>You aren't allowed back in. I mean, that's the situation

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<v Speaker 2>right now. You've been evacuated in many of these areas,

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<v Speaker 2>Santa Monica, Pallisades, Malibu, I don't care up in Alzadena, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>if you've been evacuated. In most cases, they do not

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<v Speaker 2>let people back in, even if you're a resident, and

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<v Speaker 2>there are a lot of reasons for that.

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<v Speaker 3>They have to secure this area and make sure it's safe.

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<v Speaker 2>And what's happened in many of these instances is these

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<v Speaker 2>animals are left behind and they're left to die and

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<v Speaker 2>so I we're going to talk to somebody who's involved

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<v Speaker 2>with the organizations that are associated with going back into

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<v Speaker 2>these areas to rescue these animals.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's not just a feel good story.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot that can be seen and read into

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<v Speaker 2>any one of these stories that speaks to the overall

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<v Speaker 2>problems with and I might say, we will identify them

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<v Speaker 2>as problems. But also, like you know, I hate to

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<v Speaker 2>use the term teachable moment, but you know, a learning

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<v Speaker 2>in this crisis about what we need to do. Systems

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<v Speaker 2>need to be buffed out, man, I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 2>not acceptable some of what's going on within the fire's

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<v Speaker 2>aftermath warning systems, et cetera. And so we're seeing the

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<v Speaker 2>community come together, but we're also seeing the politics, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're seeing the strategies moving forward come together and be planned. Already,

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you to night's wind event will be

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<v Speaker 2>treated in a better way from an organizational standpoint then

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<v Speaker 2>the last one was. And yet I didn't really feel

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<v Speaker 2>as though the last one was horribly handled from the

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<v Speaker 2>standpoint of firefighting law enforcement. Now there's gonna have to

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<v Speaker 2>be a real x raying of all of this. And

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<v Speaker 2>don't get me wrong, I mean I see a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the failings, but I guess the point I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to make is in each instance, systems can be buffed up.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we can definitely improve these systems so that

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<v Speaker 2>each one of these events and there will be more,

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<v Speaker 2>can be handled in a better fashion. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>use the animals in the basically as a platform to

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<v Speaker 2>make a point about these other issues. Because the animal

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<v Speaker 2>situation isn't being handled well, LA City isn't handling that well,

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<v Speaker 2>and you'll learn more. And similarly, people need help and

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<v Speaker 2>need to interact with public officials and official websites that

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<v Speaker 2>can point them in the right direction. And that also

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<v Speaker 2>has to be upgraded. So all of the upgrades and

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<v Speaker 2>all of the systems and strategies moving forward will be

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<v Speaker 2>informed by what we've just been through. But this is

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<v Speaker 2>an awful way to see things upgraded at all that

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<v Speaker 2>we have to live through what we've just lived through.

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<v Speaker 2>This is an unprecedented, horrifying event. But we can improve

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<v Speaker 2>from it, and we have no choice but to improve

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<v Speaker 2>from it. So we'll get to as I say, the

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<v Speaker 2>weather for this afternoon tonight and moving forward.

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<v Speaker 3>Next few days.

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<v Speaker 2>As we talked to meteorologists later in the hour and

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<v Speaker 2>then the likely causes of some of these fires as

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<v Speaker 2>we continue. It's so weird to see the weather so

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<v Speaker 2>you know, sparkling and bright away from the fires, when

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<v Speaker 2>there is a life and death struggle being played out

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<v Speaker 2>in the areas with the fire. And we're expecting, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>hire wins later this afternoon, this evening. We're getting an

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<v Speaker 2>As I say, we beg you know, begin this sear

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<v Speaker 2>and continue to follow the thread of what's happening all

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<v Speaker 2>over southern California and how we are on fire weather watch.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do want to say congratulations to the Los

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<v Speaker 2>Angeles Rams. It was an amazing distraction from a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of what was going on last night. If you had

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<v Speaker 2>the luxury of being able to watch it, I know

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<v Speaker 2>many were evacuating or preparing or packing. We were in

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<v Speaker 2>my house, but I was watching on the phone. I

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<v Speaker 2>was watching the Rams game and was astounded at how

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<v Speaker 2>dominant they were. And I'll tell you something else. It's

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<v Speaker 2>moving to see the way in which that team and

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<v Speaker 2>Arizona and that team ownership reached out to the Rams

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<v Speaker 2>organization and essentially reconfigured a lot of their stadium to

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<v Speaker 2>make it feel like Los Angeles, all to help lift

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<v Speaker 2>a community that needed a lift. And then this, I

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<v Speaker 2>will tell you, and this is just maybe the softy

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<v Speaker 2>that I am, but through the weekend, and I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you just have to know this. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 2>did lose our neighborhood to the Getty fires, So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>everything about fire lands harder with us in my house.

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<v Speaker 2>But when they did that moment of silence before all

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<v Speaker 2>the games, all the playoff games. I choked up. It's

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<v Speaker 2>really a powerful thing. And so when I was watching

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<v Speaker 2>the Rams game and there it is. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not just a playoff game. It's the game with

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<v Speaker 2>the team that is in a sense representing your community

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<v Speaker 2>that has been touched by the same tragedy urgency that

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<v Speaker 2>we all have been touched by. I found it very moving,

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<v Speaker 2>I really did. And then of course the dominant nature

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<v Speaker 2>in which the Rams won, it was just for it

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<v Speaker 2>was a little bit of happiness, you know, as an Angelina,

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<v Speaker 2>you just felt, Wow, this is really terrific. Look, Los

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<v Speaker 2>Angeles has problems, but I think it's a great place

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<v Speaker 2>to live. I have a terrific decade after decade love

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<v Speaker 2>affair with California. I've dreamt of living here. I grew

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<v Speaker 2>up on the East Coast. I dreamt every day, i

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<v Speaker 2>want to say, of moving to California. It seemed like

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<v Speaker 2>the promised land. I saw the weather when I'd watched

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<v Speaker 2>sporting events. Everyone was happy. The weather was always better

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<v Speaker 2>than the weather we were enduring on the East Coast.

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<v Speaker 2>There's the topography here, the mountains, the ocean, the diversity,

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<v Speaker 2>connection I think to a lot of issues and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of lifestyles. I'm talking about healthy lifestyles, alternative life,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, all that stuff. California has been an incubator

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<v Speaker 2>and we've lived that, and I'm telling you my love

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<v Speaker 2>to fire, I lost a neighborhood to fire. We are

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<v Speaker 2>intense emotions in our home. And I still love Los

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<v Speaker 2>Angeles and it's not a place that doesn't have big problems,

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<v Speaker 2>big city problems.

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<v Speaker 3>But we will get through this.

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<v Speaker 2>And the great things about this community, those great things

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<v Speaker 2>where did new fires emerge? Overnight? Ventura County? That was

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<v Speaker 4>The auto fire is burning behind this golf course behind me.

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<v Speaker 4>But the good news is firefighters have stopped the forward

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<v Speaker 4>progress of course, the concern here this morning is still

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<v Speaker 4>going to be the wind. And I want to go

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<v Speaker 4>to some video that we have overnight of the auto

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<v Speaker 4>is burning and nears some car dealerships on Auto Center Drive.

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<v Speaker 4>Those dealerships are not threatened. Again, the forward progress of

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<v Speaker 4>this fire has stopped at fifty six acres and the

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<v Speaker 4>fire is confined to the Santa Clara river bed now.

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<v Speaker 4>Despite this fire breaking out amid red flag conditions, fortunately

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<v Speaker 4>no structures are threatened.

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<v Speaker 5>But like we've been talking, it does.

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<v Speaker 2>Seem as though it's the location of that fire that

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<v Speaker 2>has favored containment even though it is not contained. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at right here the latest zero percent containment,

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<v Speaker 2>But the acreage doesn't seem to have grown on that

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<v Speaker 2>auto fire in Mentory County, and that's largely I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's proximity to water, and you know, again maybe wind

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<v Speaker 4>But like we've been talking about all morning, winds are

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<v Speaker 4>still a problem this morning, and we have some video

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<v Speaker 4>of the wind in the San Fernando Valley overnight. The

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<v Speaker 4>National Weather Service has issued a particularly Dangerous situation red

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<v Speaker 4>flag warning like you mentioned Leslie, and it's the highest

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<v Speaker 3>For Yeah, we're going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about that, and we're going to talk about it

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<v Speaker 2>with the National Weather Service meteorologist a little bit later

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<v Speaker 2>in this hour. It is somewhat extraordinary that they've issued

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<v Speaker 3>We'll talk about that.

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<v Speaker 2>But the auto fire Inventura County again fifty six acres.

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to talk about what's happening in the

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<v Speaker 2>San Fernando Valley and we're going to talk with Lindsay

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<v Speaker 2>Horrvorat next. She's a supervisor and that's her area, a

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<v Speaker 2>council councilman of the third district. Third district is the valley,

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<v Speaker 2>and we will get to that next. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>all of the different municipalities and all the different areas

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<v Speaker 2>that make up the tapestry of southern California, we'll try

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<v Speaker 2>to address as many as we can as we continue

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<v Speaker 2>this morning. Again, we'll talk to a councilman of horror

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<v Speaker 2>At next later in this hour, National Weather Service mediorologists.

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<v Speaker 2>Next hour, the investigative journalist Cecy Woods on the origins

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<v Speaker 2>of the Palisades fire, and we continue. Mark Thompson sitting

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<v Speaker 2>in Keana's here, Jacobs here, Amy's here. It is a

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<v Speaker 2>situation that is fast breaking when it comes to the fire,

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<v Speaker 2>so we're watching them. The Auto fire Inventora County, it's

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent contained. Just wanted to get that clear

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<v Speaker 2>talking about that before the break. The Hearst fire and

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<v Speaker 2>still more ninety seven percent contained, so close to total containment.

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<v Speaker 2>The Eton thirty five percent contained, and the Palisades fire

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen percent containment. More on that as the morning and

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<v Speaker 2>afternoon progresses. I want to welcome in to the conversation

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<v Speaker 2>the councilman from the third district, Lindsay horvat High Lindsay, no, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, okay, so we don't have her. Sorry, well,

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<v Speaker 2>at least I didn't, you know, if i'd done like

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<v Speaker 2>a ninety second intro on how proud we are to

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<v Speaker 2>have her and how important she is. But I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I just did a short thing. So it's fine. It's

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<v Speaker 2>interesting though. We are going to have a Lindsay on

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll talk about a little bit. When it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to briefings, these council people sometimes are briefed in ways

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<v Speaker 2>that the rest of us are not, even in the

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<v Speaker 2>media and so I'm anxious to know exactly where we

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<v Speaker 2>stand in turns of information that she might have. Hi,

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<v Speaker 2>Counsel Horvath, are you there?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, Lendsy Horbek, supervisor for the third district.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, there you go. And the third district is the valley?

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<v Speaker 2>Am I right? What part of the valley is the

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<v Speaker 2>third district?

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<v Speaker 6>A lot of the value portion of the Stanford Inda

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<v Speaker 6>Valley is in the third district.

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<v Speaker 3>So what are you learning?

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<v Speaker 2>I was just mentioning as we were waiting to get

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<v Speaker 2>you on what are you learning in briefings that your

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<v Speaker 2>party two that might be important for the public to know.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, we are not out of this yet. We are

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<v Speaker 6>going into again some record wins in terms of our

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<v Speaker 6>particularly dangerous situation. So we want to make sure everybody

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<v Speaker 6>is following evacuation orders and notices. We also want people

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<v Speaker 6>to be prepared for power shut offs. So even if

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<v Speaker 6>you don't live in the immediate area where you're expecting

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<v Speaker 6>a fire, your power may be shut off in order

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<v Speaker 6>to help in the areas where there is a fire.

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<v Speaker 6>So we're encouraging charge their devices, charge backup batteries, and

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see some of that power outages and power

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<v Speaker 2>shutdowns and involuntary shutdowns last week.

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<v Speaker 6>We have seen power shutoffs throughout whenever we have these

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<v Speaker 6>very extreme winds. In some cases it is a preventative measure.

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<v Speaker 6>In some cases it's in response to what's happening on

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<v Speaker 6>the ground. And I've seen, you know, being on the

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<v Speaker 6>ground in a variety of these areas, including in the Palisades.

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<v Speaker 6>We've seen you know, light poles that bent over streets,

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<v Speaker 6>us live wires and and you know, disconnected utility equipment.

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<v Speaker 6>And so we know there are a lot of frontline

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<v Speaker 6>workers from our utility companies that are out there working

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<v Speaker 6>to restore where it is safe and to make sure

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<v Speaker 6>that the equipment is being cleared in order for these

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<v Speaker 6>areas to be safe for people to return. But there's

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<v Speaker 2>As you know, we've been through such a dramatic and

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<v Speaker 2>intense incident already, and now we're beginning what may be

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<v Speaker 2>a ramp up to another very dramatic and intense incident.

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<v Speaker 2>And so this is an odd time to do what

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<v Speaker 2>we're doing, which is looking ahead but also looking back

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<v Speaker 2>what we've just been through. So it's in the looking

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<v Speaker 2>back part that I ask you, do you see things

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely? And I think I think that's not only human nature.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's good government. We have to hold ourselves

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<v Speaker 6>accountable and see if there were things that could have

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<v Speaker 6>been done differently. I also would say that now, looking forward,

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<v Speaker 6>given the devastation that we're facing, we have a unique

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<v Speaker 6>opportunity to invest in an equipment and facilities on the ground,

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<v Speaker 6>knowing what our twenty first century realities are that we

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<v Speaker 6>didn't have, you know, when this community, when some of

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<v Speaker 6>these communities were being built more than one hundred years ago.

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<v Speaker 6>So what kind of facilities do we want for our

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<v Speaker 6>twenty first century reality, whether that's water reservoirs, whether it's

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<v Speaker 6>undergrounding of utility equipment. What can we take advantage of

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<v Speaker 6>now to ensure that while we are rebuilding, we're doing

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<v Speaker 6>so in a way that is safe, that is mindful,

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<v Speaker 6>that is using the home hardening practices that we know

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<v Speaker 6>our best practice. Now, there's a lot of lessons learned

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<v Speaker 6>over time, and we have to take all of that

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<v Speaker 2>And whose responsibility is that? I mean, I love that

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<v Speaker 2>list that you just mentioned. It seems like a really

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<v Speaker 2>solid list. And as voters and as constituents, who do

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<v Speaker 2>we push back on to see if follow through on

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<v Speaker 2>some of those things?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, everybody is. Everybody is responsible, and I would say

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<v Speaker 6>that's why we're taking a look at what are all

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<v Speaker 6>of the things that we want to evaluate in our

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<v Speaker 6>after action plan. We're putting this list together in concert

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<v Speaker 6>with my colleagues. We're working with our department directors to

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<v Speaker 6>talk with them. I mean, these conversations are already happening,

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<v Speaker 6>and it's because, at least on the county side, I

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<v Speaker 6>can say definitively, these conversations happen after there's every incident,

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<v Speaker 6>no matter what level and scale. Outside of after Wolsey,

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<v Speaker 6>the county learned that there was uncoordinated communication. If they

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<v Speaker 6>communicated with law enforcement versus fire, versus the supervisor's office,

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<v Speaker 6>they often got different answers, which contributed to confusion and frustration.

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<v Speaker 6>So that's how the Office of Emergency Management was created,

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<v Speaker 6>how communications were centralized, and new systems were put into place.

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<v Speaker 6>And you know, we will continue to build on the experience.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I spoke with residents in the valley who

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<v Speaker 6>talked about the Getty fire and when they were evacuating,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, and they closed down the four or five

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<v Speaker 6>used by commuters who are trying to get to work.

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<v Speaker 6>So over the weekend we had the conversation as we

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<v Speaker 6>were going into this PDS event, how do we proactively

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<v Speaker 6>think about evacuation routes and prioritize the safety of people

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<v Speaker 6>who live in those areas so they can get out

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<v Speaker 6>and they're not contending with commuter traffic. These lessons learned

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<v Speaker 6>have to be implemented both in long term planning and

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<v Speaker 6>in real time on the ground. And of course nothing's

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<v Speaker 6>going to be perfect, but we have to challenge ourselves

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<v Speaker 2>Well, when you look back at the decades in southern California,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think back to nineteen sixty one the bel

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<v Speaker 2>Air fire, where the fire jumped that four or five

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<v Speaker 2>area into a Brentwood and raced up that section, they

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<v Speaker 2>completely changed the fire access roads and they made a

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<v Speaker 2>wholesale change. And as you suggested, through the decades, as

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<v Speaker 2>we've endured more fires, there have been more substantial strategies

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<v Speaker 2>modern era or the more modern era and what we're

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<v Speaker 2>dealing with now. But this is just such an unprecedented event.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, with these super charge atmospheric conditions, it seems

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<v Speaker 6>You know, well, I think we're limited in terms of

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<v Speaker 6>you know, people are saying, what if we had fifteen

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<v Speaker 6>what if we had fifteen thousand more? And I will say,

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<v Speaker 6>in this moment, it's not a question of personnel when

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<v Speaker 6>You know, we can have all kinds of aircraft ready

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<v Speaker 6>help to the circumstance. So you really have to address

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<v Speaker 6>you sent you know, tens of thousands more people to respond,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, when Hurricane Katrina was hitting, then suddenly somehow

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<v Speaker 6>it wouldn't have been as bad. You know, it's a

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<v Speaker 6>natural disaster and it's called such for a reason, But

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<v Speaker 6>that doesn't mean we shouldn't be prepared in all of

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<v Speaker 6>the ways that we need to, both as a government

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<v Speaker 6>and through all of our various agencies as well as

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<v Speaker 6>informing the public on how to be prepared. And we've

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<v Speaker 6>done this in our district. We've hosted several emergency preparedness

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<v Speaker 6>trainings throughout my district in the northeast San Fernando Valley

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<v Speaker 6>in the Santa Monica Mountains. We did one at Skurball

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<v Speaker 6>Center for folks both in the valley and on the

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<v Speaker 6>west side. And we are doing this based on our experience.

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<v Speaker 6>We know that people need to have access to information.

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<v Speaker 6>It's what keeps them safe, and getting them this information

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<v Speaker 6>when you're not in a time of emergency is ideal.

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<v Speaker 6>That being said, we also know that many times people

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<v Speaker 6>are not paying attention until the emergency comes to them,

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<v Speaker 6>and so we know people are paying attention now and

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<v Speaker 6>we hope that as we move forwards, people will engage

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<v Speaker 6>in emergency preparedness efforts. So God's forbid there is another

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<v Speaker 6>time like this, they are ready. We know that these

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<v Speaker 6>PDS situations like the one that we're in right now.

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<v Speaker 6>There's only been four. There's been four in just recent months,

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<v Speaker 6>and there hadn't been any since twenty twenty, so it's

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<v Speaker 6>been more than four years. And now we've had, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>several in just a couple of months. So we are

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<v Speaker 6>seeing extreme conditions that you know, our chief has said

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<v Speaker 6>no amount of personnel could have prevented, and what we

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<v Speaker 6>faced last week, and yet we staged what we knew,

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<v Speaker 6>We staged what cal Fire and County Fire and all

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<v Speaker 6>of the best experts predicted to have ready to go.

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<v Speaker 6>And then we do better, I mean, but we have

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<v Speaker 6>to explore what worked well and what didn't work so

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<v Speaker 6>we can do better.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, and this doesn't clearly seem like a personnel situation

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<v Speaker 2>at all. Those all seemed like super solid. Take so,

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<v Speaker 2>Lindsay Horvat, thank you and good luck to you in

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<v Speaker 2>the third district. Lindsay, of course, is the LA County

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<v Speaker 2>Board of Supervisor there for the third district, which covers

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<v Speaker 2>so much of the valley, and we're all hanging on tight.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's stay in touch. Thank you, appreciate you joining us on.

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<v Speaker 2>Kofi couldn't even make it through it for one hour

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<v Speaker 2>without it, and I'm even more excited about the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that I had nothing to do with this mistake. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if we could just get a what happened?

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<v Speaker 2>I misidentify Kanna Lindsay Horvath.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think we accidentally said that.

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<v Speaker 3>When you say we accidentally.

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<v Speaker 7>I accidentally said. I think it was in the heat

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<v Speaker 7>of the moment. But she is part of the Board

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<v Speaker 7>of Supervisors.

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<v Speaker 3>She's a supervisor.

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<v Speaker 5>Then she's the chairman of the Board of Supervisor.

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<v Speaker 2>You go, yeah, so Amy must have been laying out

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<v Speaker 2>and letting us just you didn't catch it, then, Amy,

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<v Speaker 2>when we.

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<v Speaker 5>First luckily I was listening to congressional hearings when that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I want to apologize. So what would her official

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<v Speaker 2>title be?

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<v Speaker 5>Chairperson or chairman of the Board of Supervisor Chairman.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the board.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I want to apologize to Lindsay Horvath for that.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh wait, I got it wrong. Now I'm thinking of

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<v Speaker 5>Catherine Barger.

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<v Speaker 3>This is outrageous.

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<v Speaker 2>I come in here, fill in, and this is the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of everybody's just getting sloppy. I need the same

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<v Speaker 2>kind of I need the focus that you give Gary

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<v Speaker 2>and Shannon. All Right, so she's with the l She

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<v Speaker 2>is a supervisor supervisor for the third district, which is

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<v Speaker 2>the valley. She's the La County Board of Supervisor supervisor

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<v Speaker 2>from the third district, which is much of the San

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<v Speaker 2>Fernando Valley.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, right now we have Mike Wafford with the National

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<v Speaker 7>Weather Service meteorologists.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, very good, thank you, Kenna. All right, you'll

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<v Speaker 2>be yellowcarded as a result of this, but not red carded.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Mike, good morning, thanks to your patience, and

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<v Speaker 2>good morning. This is it's a pair of extraordinary events

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<v Speaker 2>that have got the first being last week and then

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<v Speaker 2>the second being what's coming.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, so we're actually looking at a little bit less

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<v Speaker 8>win today than we thought. The winds are coming in

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<v Speaker 8>a little bit lighter, which is good news. Generally under

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<v Speaker 8>about thirty miles per hour so far this morning. We

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<v Speaker 8>are expecting a little bit of an uptick as we

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<v Speaker 8>move into the afternoon today. But the good news is

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<v Speaker 8>for the Palisades Fire, we're still looking at generally light

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<v Speaker 8>winds under twenty miles per hour there today and tomorrow

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<v Speaker 8>another little increase, but again mostly in the same areas

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<v Speaker 8>as today. Probably not too bad. We're kind of looking

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<v Speaker 8>at some models for tomorrow a little bit less than

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<v Speaker 8>what we had originally thought, So hopefully that will be true,

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<v Speaker 8>be a little bit better news.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's terrific news. Terrific news. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>And getting into later in the week, we're looking pretty good. Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

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<v Speaker 8>Looks like we have a good solid break in the

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<v Speaker 8>wind actually turning onshore, our traditional sea breeze coming in

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<v Speaker 8>to bring in a little bit more humidity, helping the

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<v Speaker 8>firefighting efforts as we get into the weekend. So there

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<v Speaker 8>was talk.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Wafford trying interrupt, I'm just going There was talk

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<v Speaker 2>of a rain event or possibility of some precipitation.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you speak to that.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that doesn't really look like that's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 8>We were looking at that a couple of days ago.

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<v Speaker 8>There was some indications that we might get a little

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<v Speaker 8>bit of rain. But that chance is dwindle to under

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<v Speaker 8>five percent right now, so that's not a really a

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<v Speaker 8>viable option.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you look at long term forecast now there

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<v Speaker 2>is just nothing on the horizon. Is this a this

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<v Speaker 2>is a blocking ridge of high pressure, or the jet

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<v Speaker 2>is just so far north? What is the what are

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<v Speaker 2>the realities concerning the variables here.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, Sadly, there really isn't anything that we're seeing on

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<v Speaker 8>our longer range models that suggest anything you know, that's

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<v Speaker 8>going to drop, anything you know that's going to help

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<v Speaker 8>us out. It looks like it's basically a dry pattern

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<v Speaker 8>all the way through the end of the month.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's for the entire state or just southern California.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, yeah, I was just looking at the southern California

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<v Speaker 8>area at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a It's somewhat extraordinary. After two very wet

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<v Speaker 2>winters we get a persistent drought pattern, I suppose, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, we're moving into we're seeing some drought signals you know,

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<v Speaker 8>coming up, and as I said, the long range doesn't

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<v Speaker 8>look good. This is so far, at least the second

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<v Speaker 8>driest start to the winner that we've ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Had, So I just want to reiterate.

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<v Speaker 2>Then, the good news is that this next event looks

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<v Speaker 2>as though it may not be as bad. It's clearly

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<v Speaker 2>already we weren't expecting to be quite as bad as

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<v Speaker 2>last week, but still it was going to be pretty bad.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks as though it's going to be a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit better than we'd anticipated though, even for this week,

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<v Speaker 2>that is to say slightly, what would you say, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>twenty percent better than you thought it would be.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I would say something like that. That definitely an

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<v Speaker 8>improvement there. And you know the good news, even better

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<v Speaker 8>news is that you know where the fires are still

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<v Speaker 8>being dealt with at this time, the winds are even

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<v Speaker 8>lighter in those areas, So that's good.

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<v Speaker 3>Look.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the Weather Service. I think you guys do

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<v Speaker 2>a great job. And I think lost in all of

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<v Speaker 2>this is the accuracy with which these forecasts have at

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<v Speaker 2>least braced us for impact, even though the impact has

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<v Speaker 2>been pretty intense. So to all of the forecasters there

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<v Speaker 2>and to all the support people are great.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks, thank you, Mike Wilford.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, thank you so much. We really appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.

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