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Speaker 4: Welcome back to truth seekers from around the world. It's
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Speaker 5: I'm your host is always George Hobbs.
Speaker 4: We're recording on this Thursday, June twenty six, twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 4: further ado, we're gonna jump right into it today. Our
Speaker 4: guest joining us from Kentucky. Today is Adam. Good morning, Adam.
Speaker 4: How you doing brother morning George. Thanks so much for
Speaker 4: take glad to be here. Yeah, it's great to have you.
Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us and jump right into it. Feel
Speaker 4: free to introduce yourself.
Speaker 1: Okay, my name is Adam. I live in Louisville, Kentucky.
Speaker 6: I'm originally from Northern Kentucky, which is right across the
Speaker 6: river from Cincinnati. I moved to Louisville and twenty ten
Speaker 6: pursuing rehab for drug and alcohol addiction.
Speaker 1: That is when I met my wife and we currently
Speaker 1: are married.
Speaker 6: We have two daughters, aged thirteen and about to be eight.
Speaker 6: And I requested to do this interview with you because
Speaker 6: I am I'm a Christian, and.
Speaker 1: I just feel like I am trying to.
Speaker 5: We lost show to you so that I can.
Speaker 1: Work on communicating with people.
Speaker 6: In respect to the Biblical narrative and what's going on
Speaker 6: with the world today.
Speaker 5: And that's really important.
Speaker 4: And number one, first and foremers, I appreciate you coming
Speaker 4: on and sharing your story because I know it's out
Speaker 4: of all the thousands of emails we've gotten over the
Speaker 4: last several years, that is something that you know, people
Speaker 4: wrestle with as well, and.
Speaker 5: The subject of flat Earth.
Speaker 4: You know, we've talked about it hundreds of times, how
Speaker 4: it's such a taboo subject, but you know, there's so
Speaker 4: many testimonies throughout the last two and a half years
Speaker 4: of people how much it has changed their life and
Speaker 4: has helped them see the Bible for what it is.
Speaker 4: And I guess that's the best way to kick this
Speaker 4: off is kind of explain. I think it was twenty
Speaker 4: twenty two when you came across this and started to
Speaker 4: wake up to.
Speaker 6: It, yes, sir, and so to jump right into it.
Speaker 6: And I'm just gonna you know this a little disclaimer.
Speaker 6: I'm trying to keep my my paradigm malleable, and it
Speaker 6: is something that I'm intentionally doing myself. The only thing
Speaker 6: that solid is my is my belief in God and Jesus.
Speaker 1: Uh. That is the foundation, I'd like to say.
Speaker 6: So, you know, as far as the way I see
Speaker 6: the world that that can change.
Speaker 1: I could be wrong about flat Earth. I could be
Speaker 1: right about it.
Speaker 6: You know, but based on what I can see logically
Speaker 6: and what I see in the science logically, in the
Speaker 6: way the world perceived or the world has shown to us,
Speaker 6: it seems that it's flat.
Speaker 1: Ah. Now if that changes, that changes.
Speaker 6: But to me, honestly, it is just a small part
Speaker 6: of the picture for me, because when it all comes
Speaker 6: down to it, you know, it's about salvation for humanity.
Speaker 6: I agreed, and so just to get on with my story,
Speaker 6: I got. I got sober in September twenty fifth, twenty ten,
Speaker 6: after you know, you know, I was using obviously alcohol
Speaker 6: and it ended up with heroin, and you know, I
Speaker 6: was using needles, and I was homeless and I didn't
Speaker 6: have anywhere to go. An opportunity came for me to
Speaker 6: go to a halfway house in Louisville. I came here,
Speaker 6: got sober six months, moved back home, ended up relapsing,
Speaker 6: got in trouble with the law, got sober again, and
Speaker 6: another opportunity came for me to move back to Louisville.
Speaker 6: So it's where I'm down to Louisville. I met my wife,
Speaker 6: immediately got pregnant.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 1: We ended up moving in together.
Speaker 6: I proposed to her, we had our baby, and the
Speaker 6: rest of history. We ended up getting married, you know,
Speaker 6: and I am absolutely blessed.
Speaker 1: I have the best wife possible in the world. Uh.
Speaker 1: My kids are amazing.
Speaker 6: You know, I thank God every day that I'm even
Speaker 6: allowed to be a part of that because you know,
Speaker 6: based on my past, it's definitely not what I saw happen.
Speaker 1: So the way it.
Speaker 6: Has really been worked for me is after getting sober.
Speaker 6: You know, it started with just this uh my my
Speaker 6: conception of what God is. And then you know, I
Speaker 6: was raised Catholic, you know, you know, I never had
Speaker 6: a problem with God think uh, and it really has
Speaker 6: just transformed into you know, seeing the truth in the
Speaker 6: world over a long period of time since been almost
Speaker 6: fifteen years, and that that is really when when I
Speaker 6: got served, as when my awakening started. You know, I've
Speaker 6: over time, you know, we started going back into church,
Speaker 6: you know, and I remember my wife and I and
Speaker 6: I would say that I was pretty much raised.
Speaker 1: Like a Democrat.
Speaker 6: You know, I voted for Obama twice, which Matt looking
Speaker 6: back is crazy to me, but I just fell in line,
Speaker 6: you know, it was the default position, and uh that's
Speaker 6: just what I you know, I guess I was programmed
Speaker 6: to do a program to believe. But I remember my
Speaker 6: wife and I laying in our bed in twenty thirteen
Speaker 6: watching YouTube video.
Speaker 1: The Sandy Hook shooting and the moon landing and nine.
Speaker 6: To eleven, and you know, like I believed, like yeah
Speaker 6: that the Sandy Hook was a false flag, nine to
Speaker 6: eleven was a false flag, and the moonlanding was faked.
Speaker 6: Like that's at that point. That was when like I
Speaker 6: guess my eyes were allowed to be open at some point,
Speaker 6: But I didn't really think much into it. It's kind
Speaker 6: of one of those things where you just you see
Speaker 6: it and you're like, yeah, that's probably right, you know,
Speaker 6: and you just move on. And then twenty sixteen happened.
Speaker 6: In twenty fifteen when Trump came on the stage and
Speaker 6: I was pro Trump. You know, I still I hope
Speaker 6: for the best for him, but as of right now,
Speaker 6: it seems like he's it's obvious that he is not
Speaker 6: who he made hisself out to be. But in you know,
Speaker 6: the twenty sixteen election cycle, the whole QAnon thing came about,
Speaker 6: and when once I saw that, that was like very
Speaker 6: interesting to me, and a lot of it made sense,
Speaker 6: and you know it it kind of brought me back
Speaker 6: to that twenty thirteen moment when I never really dug
Speaker 6: more into what I had seen in just the whole
Speaker 6: q thing took me to There was a guy I
Speaker 6: used to follow on Instagram and he all of a
Speaker 6: sudden one day and he was like a big Q guy.
Speaker 6: He was like famous in the Trump community. I guess
Speaker 6: you'd call it the Maga community. He one day said
Speaker 6: Trump's desionist, the Earth's flat, and I'm done with all
Speaker 6: this and I just remember, what the heck man?
Speaker 1: What was that?
Speaker 6: And that was just like one of the things. And
Speaker 6: then by this time, so let's fast forward to twenty twenty,
Speaker 6: the pandemic and this is when like podcasts are starting
Speaker 6: to get really big, and just to go over the
Speaker 6: pandemic quickly. At first, my wife and I and left.
Speaker 6: Let me just go ahead. My wife is one hundred
Speaker 6: percent awake as well. She's that's just like me. She
Speaker 6: just doesn't she's not as interested, let's say. But you know,
Speaker 6: her and I are basically definitely on the same page.
Speaker 6: And I'm lucky for that. She is a Christian conservative
Speaker 6: woman and she's even though, yeah, she's probably gonna listen
Speaker 6: to this, but she's just you know, I'm absolutely blessed
Speaker 6: to have that type of person on my side. So
Speaker 6: her and I both knew there was something up with
Speaker 6: the pandemic, and you know they here in Kentucky we
Speaker 6: had we have a Democrat governor and he shut everything down,
Speaker 6: and you know, but I never did forget that.
Speaker 1: You know, Trump did start that. Uh that's right.
Speaker 6: So like the first week, we're like, you know, we're
Speaker 6: kind of being careful, you know, hand sanitizer. You know,
Speaker 6: we weren't like on board the masks in the beginning
Speaker 6: at all. But once we started seeing people with the mask,
Speaker 6: that was just weird to us. And it took like
Speaker 6: a month for the governor to actually enforce the mask.
Speaker 6: So you know, people were doing it before they were
Speaker 6: forced to do it here, and you know, we just
Speaker 6: it was a uh, what's the word.
Speaker 1: It was a dystop It looked very dystopic. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: they and.
Speaker 6: The mayor of Louisville took the baskets off the basketball courts,
Speaker 6: closed down all the parks, skateboard parks they had, They
Speaker 6: had l m p D driving through the parks.
Speaker 1: You know, the park system here in louis was a.
Speaker 6: Big deal here, and they had the LMPD on four wheelers.
Speaker 6: The troll want to make sure people were not in crowds,
Speaker 6: and uh so we knew like and we just would
Speaker 6: lay in bed. Just try, man, what are they trying
Speaker 6: to do to us? Like, what's going on?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 6: And like one thing that kept coming to our minds
Speaker 6: is like they're trying to cover our faces. They're trying
Speaker 6: to keep us uh, They're trying to cover up the
Speaker 6: image of God. They're trying to keep us away from
Speaker 6: each other, trying to divide us. And that it works, you.
Speaker 1: Know for the.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but we you know, I fought the mass thing
Speaker 6: tooth and naw. You know a couple of times we
Speaker 6: had to do it on the airplanes. We went to Florida,
Speaker 6: and even in Florida, we just to walk into an
Speaker 6: ice cream chot we had to put it on. H
Speaker 6: You know, I was really only did it, you know,
Speaker 6: when I was forced or when it became an issue
Speaker 6: when we were in the family setting.
Speaker 1: But that was the real awakening.
Speaker 6: That is when I knew, all right, this is a
Speaker 6: nine to eleven style psyop and we are in the
Speaker 6: middle of it, and it was scary. And I started
Speaker 6: listening to like prepper channels and prepper podcasts.
Speaker 1: You know, my my dad came down.
Speaker 6: He gave me my first youn my first nine millimeter
Speaker 6: clock m because in Louisville. There was riding in twenty twenty.
Speaker 6: This was when the Breonna Taylor incident. That was her
Speaker 6: apartment was one mile from my house.
Speaker 5: Oh no kidding.
Speaker 6: So all the Walgreenies had it was all boarded up,
Speaker 6: all the stores were boarded up in our area. So
Speaker 6: I live on the south end of town and that
Speaker 6: is south of Churchill Downs where Kentucky Derby.
Speaker 1: Is, in all of that area.
Speaker 6: But they were riding in downtown though, so I didn't
Speaker 6: see anything.
Speaker 1: It didn't happen where we were, luckily.
Speaker 6: But that is when you know, I really got into
Speaker 6: the Second Amendment and really getting into learning my rights
Speaker 6: as an American. And through all this the Prepper Channel,
Speaker 6: I found out this guy that I would follow on YouTube.
Speaker 1: He had a podcast and he.
Speaker 6: Only had a couple of them and he didn't continue
Speaker 6: on with them, but one of them was about Operation
Speaker 6: fish Bowl yep, and uh, they were trying to blow
Speaker 6: they were doing putting bombs in the sky, trying to
Speaker 6: blow up the firmament. And that is when I was like,
Speaker 6: WHOA the firmament. And then that's when I realized, like
Speaker 6: the firm that's in the Bible lesson Genesis and so yeah,
Speaker 6: and at that point I didn't even go and read
Speaker 6: Genesis yet, but I slowly over time kept hearing this
Speaker 6: is the same topic, pop up, pop back up, and
Speaker 6: that is Uh, I don't remember.
Speaker 1: Exactly what it was. It was probably Dave wife, to
Speaker 1: be honest, because he was all over the place. He
Speaker 1: still is.
Speaker 6: But uh, you know, I probably watched a couple of
Speaker 6: day wife's wife's videos and that was it. I mean,
Speaker 6: it was just and then like from that point, my
Speaker 6: logical thinking just kicked in. And uh, when I saw
Speaker 6: like that the moonlight was cold, that was one big things.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 6: Yeah that I mean, I didn't even understand it, but
Speaker 6: I did test it. And even though because I mean
Speaker 6: I'm in heating and air so I have the equipment
Speaker 6: to do it, and uh, it didn't it was maybe
Speaker 6: it was a fraction of a degree, but it was
Speaker 6: there was a difference. And you know, there's just so much.
Speaker 6: It's just so much that it just can't even be disputed.
Speaker 6: And I mean, and when you look at the scientists
Speaker 6: and the stuff they say on TV, and like they
Speaker 6: know in the videos they show like it looks so
Speaker 6: it's so fake looking.
Speaker 1: And the stuff they say is so contradictory.
Speaker 6: It's and it's just plain obvious to someone like me
Speaker 6: now and to someone like you, like like, once you
Speaker 6: see it, you can't unsee it.
Speaker 5: You can't.
Speaker 4: And you made a lot of great points. I was
Speaker 4: actually trying to find an email that someone had just
Speaker 4: sent me regarding a great proof and I'll find it
Speaker 4: here before the end of the show. But a couple
Speaker 4: of things I wanted to touch on. I've been taking
Speaker 4: notes as you were talking. I didn't want to interrupt.
Speaker 4: I think a lot of us, a lot of people
Speaker 4: when you were talking, were kind of shaking our heads
Speaker 4: up and up and down when you said that, you know,
Speaker 4: the difficulties from transitioning or being a young boy to
Speaker 4: a young man, and the mistakes we make and we
Speaker 4: look back and we can't believe how we.
Speaker 5: Pulled through, and that is truly through the grace of God.
Speaker 4: I'm in two months will be my twenty five year anniversary,
Speaker 4: and I think every day I'm so lucky to have her.
Speaker 4: I feel like I'll kick my coverage with my wife.
Speaker 4: But that really goes to talk about the grace of
Speaker 4: God and how forgiveness works. He doesn't want us stressing
Speaker 4: over the mistakes we've made. Because all of us have
Speaker 4: made mistakes. We can't change the past, but we can
Speaker 4: certainly change the future. And just by coming on this
Speaker 4: podcast and sharing your story, you are you are making
Speaker 4: a difference in people's lives. The other thing is you
Speaker 4: were talking about Obama and Trump and the left right
Speaker 4: paradigm is such a great tool that Satan uses to
Speaker 4: divide and conquer us. And you know, thinking back, I
Speaker 4: used to just walk into the voting box and just
Speaker 4: pool are and walk out.
Speaker 5: I have no idea who I voted for, what.
Speaker 4: Those people were about, if they were alcoholics, or women
Speaker 4: abusers or anything. Just because they had an R I
Speaker 4: voted for them. And I've been a big proponent of
Speaker 4: just taking away from political parties one hundred percent and
Speaker 4: voting for people. That would force people to actually do
Speaker 4: some research and know who they're voting for. But at
Speaker 4: this point, when we talk about federal politics, there's no accountability.
Speaker 4: They have created the matrix so carefully that we'll never
Speaker 4: be able to hold these people accountable. And on my
Speaker 4: other podcast, The Fact Hunter, at least twice a year
Speaker 4: we go back and I'll play audio clips from twenty twenty,
Speaker 4: whether it's the mayor of New York City saying, hey,
Speaker 4: come get your free cheeseburger for your vaccine, or.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I heard I've heard your I've heard that. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you just played the clips over and over. You got
Speaker 6: like a whole episode of just yeah the Mockingbird media.
Speaker 4: Basically yeah, And it's just to believe that we lived
Speaker 4: through that, and I shake my heads. And then on
Speaker 4: top of that, we had what you mentioned George Floyd,
Speaker 4: Breonna Taylor, Portland, Chaz just that year. You know, you
Speaker 4: want to talk about waiting for the Great reset, twenty
Speaker 4: twenty was a huge part of the great reset. Minimum
Speaker 4: wage is now fifteen bucks. The guy who just won
Speaker 4: Did you see the guy who just won the Democratic
Speaker 4: nomination who's running for New York City.
Speaker 1: He's a suffer quaimed socialist.
Speaker 4: He is a He is a Marxist socialist. He wants
Speaker 4: city run grocery stores. He wants thirty dollars minimum wage. Boy,
Speaker 4: if you thought, if you thought government that was bad,
Speaker 4: you better look out the problem is. And this is
Speaker 4: a question I posed to all the Trump people. You know,
Speaker 4: there's a good look. I'll let everybody make their own
Speaker 4: judgment about that. But what happens in twenty twenty eight
Speaker 4: do we fight all of this all over again? And
Speaker 4: I say, if the Constitution was truly in place and
Speaker 4: we followed it to the letter, it shouldn't matter who
Speaker 4: the president is if we had a set of laws
Speaker 4: that were set in stone that people couldn't deviate from.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 6: So as far as Trump goes, and that's a heart
Speaker 6: that's honestly, that's heartaching for me because I like Trump.
Speaker 1: He's a great character for this role that he's in.
Speaker 6: I mean, and I was so hopeful, you know, for
Speaker 6: so long really because I mean after twenty twenty, I
Speaker 6: you know, I was pro Trump. They stole the election,
Speaker 6: all this, uh, And honestly, it's sad. It's heartbreaking that,
Speaker 6: you know, not that I I mean, I guess I
Speaker 6: did put hope in him, but for our country. But
Speaker 6: I was very cautious to not idolize, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean, Like I never bought any you know, I
Speaker 6: almost did almost bout a Maga hat almost. You know,
Speaker 6: we never bought a Trump flag because if when I
Speaker 6: did at that moment, then that's an idol And you know,
Speaker 6: I was tiptoeing that line and not. Once I realized
Speaker 6: what was going on, you know, I kind of kind
Speaker 6: of backed off a little. And you know, you know,
Speaker 6: Jesus is king. You know, Trump can be my president,
Speaker 6: but Jesus is King, you know, and uh that.
Speaker 1: Is is It's sad because but.
Speaker 6: Because he's playing people, you know, people really think that
Speaker 6: he's got our country's best interest in him. But when
Speaker 6: you think logical about it. Who brought out the vaccines?
Speaker 6: That was another thing my family and I it was
Speaker 6: his vaccine. Yeah, he brought it out and you know,
Speaker 6: and he still would brag about it.
Speaker 1: And who shut down the country? Trump did?
Speaker 5: Absolutely?
Speaker 6: And uh yeah, it's and just recently it's when my
Speaker 6: wife and our you know, because I have been saying,
Speaker 6: you know, some people are saying he's Antichrists and doesn't
Speaker 6: look like they're wrong, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 6: even if he's not, he still looks like he could be.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, and.
Speaker 6: We just over in the past even after we you know,
Speaker 6: we both obviously voted for him, but you know, it's
Speaker 6: kind of like a once we found out like JD.
Speaker 1: Evans changed his name like two different times. Ye uh,
Speaker 1: he was a he was an anti.
Speaker 6: Trumper, and all of a sudden, now Trump's aligned with
Speaker 6: all these anti you know, these people that were against him,
Speaker 6: and he's going against the people that actually probably do
Speaker 6: have our best interests, like Ram Paul Thomas Massey. You know,
Speaker 6: those were really the only two uh politicians that you
Speaker 6: know are bucking the system in real life. You know, uh,
Speaker 6: Ron Paul is a great guy, you know, and Ryan
Speaker 6: Paul is trying to be just like him. And I'm
Speaker 6: not saying like he's all that, but as far as
Speaker 6: politician politician goes, he is. You know, he's a libertarian
Speaker 6: and you know he's and now Trump's like.
Speaker 1: Hating on both of them.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I don't want to make this whole thing
Speaker 6: about Trump, but the whole idea of flat Earth came
Speaker 6: to me through that.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 6: Yeah, uh that just the whole the way everything went.
Speaker 6: But ultimately, you know, you know, I watched the videos
Speaker 6: flat on flat Earth, you know, probably for a whole
Speaker 6: year straight.
Speaker 1: That's when I found your podcast.
Speaker 6: I probably listened to the first By the time I
Speaker 6: got into like one hundred episodes, I was kind of
Speaker 6: wore out on flat Earth. Every once in a while,
Speaker 6: I'll see a video, I'll watch it or something, but
Speaker 6: just it has completely changed, you know. I did obviously
Speaker 6: go back and read Genesis and yeah, that description of
Speaker 6: the Earth, and there's more to it than just that,
Speaker 6: you know, because it kind of hints that the earth
Speaker 6: was already there in a way when I think it,
Speaker 6: doesn't it say like it became desolate and voided or
Speaker 6: I guess it depends on which version you read, but
Speaker 6: you know it it had sparked other things that I
Speaker 6: found out. Uh, as far as truth goes, as far
Speaker 6: as the Bible with the giants, you know, we've grew,
Speaker 6: we grow up. Everybody even second people know the story
Speaker 6: of David, David and Goliath, but we just skim over
Speaker 6: that like like it's like it's nothing like and you
Speaker 6: learned that. I don't know if you know who l
Speaker 6: A Morzouli is. I do not, Okay, l A Morzoli.
Speaker 6: There are a few like they're into the UFO NEPHLOM
Speaker 6: space I guess Christian and the Christian space. Uh, but
Speaker 6: they do a lot of good research ones as far
Speaker 6: as giants go, and that is you know, one of
Speaker 6: the next I guess rabbit holes. You can say I
Speaker 6: went into and you know that took me to reading
Speaker 6: uh josh the Book of josh or learning about Joshua. No, No,
Speaker 6: that yeah, also that is another one, uh, the Book
Speaker 6: of just all these different uh texts, you know, some
Speaker 6: of them are not in the Bible, some of them
Speaker 6: used to be in the Bible.
Speaker 1: Some of them are in some different versions, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 6: Just finding out all that, it's just it's very interesting.
Speaker 6: I'm very intrigued.
Speaker 1: By the world and by the Bible. And you got
Speaker 1: any any questions for me, because I'm just kind of
Speaker 1: ranting on.
Speaker 5: No, You're doing great, Mike.
Speaker 4: I guess the first question would be, once you received
Speaker 4: all this information and the veil kind of fell from
Speaker 4: your eyes and you came to understand or you know,
Speaker 4: I don't think we'll ever really know until we meet
Speaker 4: God in heaven how things on earth really work here.
Speaker 4: I think the deception is so great that the truth
Speaker 4: is somewhere what we think it is and what it
Speaker 4: actually is.
Speaker 5: But once you came.
Speaker 4: Upon all this information, whether it's nine to eleven flat
Speaker 4: Earth or you know, the Bible, did you have any
Speaker 4: success or have you taken time out to share this
Speaker 4: with other people and how was it received?
Speaker 8: Even uh with my my wife number one.
Speaker 1: Uh, you know, nothing will surprise her anymore. You know,
Speaker 1: she's very open.
Speaker 6: Uh my kids. You know, I mentioned it to my kids.
Speaker 6: You know, I tell them and we try to teach
Speaker 6: them to think for themselves. But you know, I'm giving
Speaker 6: them all size of it, you know, Uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have.
Speaker 6: I'm I'm kind of afraid to you know, because I'm
Speaker 6: not the best communicator. Now when I get on something,
Speaker 6: when I when I get on a subject, when it
Speaker 6: comes to God, and I start to feel the Holy Spirit,
Speaker 6: and then the words flow. But as far as like
Speaker 6: a debate goes, because that's typically what.
Speaker 1: What imagine happens. H M. I guess I fear that conversation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, even go ahead, I'm sorry, go ahead, I have Uh.
Speaker 6: My wife and I were doing a work, doing some
Speaker 6: work for a pastor pastor and uh you know, we
Speaker 6: were painting, uh the Partridge partrinage house for him that
Speaker 6: he was about to be living in, and one of
Speaker 6: the church members was doing the flooring, and you know,
Speaker 6: we're conversating, we talk about God and all that, and
Speaker 6: you know, I don't know how it came up. I'm
Speaker 6: kind of a biblical earther and he was like, what's
Speaker 6: that meaning. I was like, well, just put it in
Speaker 6: an easy way, there's flat and he was like what.
Speaker 6: And this was when the astronauts were like allegedly stuck in.
Speaker 1: Space and they had like that was such a.
Speaker 6: That was that was a show, like they're just they're
Speaker 6: just doing all that just to keep people interested.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 6: But you know, I said my parts on it, and
Speaker 6: he was like, well, I'm just going to have to disagree,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 1: He wasn't like, you know it, didn't get angry about it.
Speaker 6: But I didn't have any I didn't not convince ith.
Speaker 1: I only and honestly, I only know one other flat
Speaker 1: Earth there. Guy I used to work with.
Speaker 6: We kind of came stumbled across it at the same time,
Speaker 6: you know, and we were working together.
Speaker 1: We talked about it, but.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he you know, ended up going to a different company,
Speaker 6: so you know, uh, but yeah, that is one reason
Speaker 6: I want to why I wanted to come on here
Speaker 6: so I can just get my feet wet and communicating
Speaker 6: about it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know you say that, you know, he
Speaker 4: just kind of said, I'd have to disagree with you.
Speaker 4: But there's a very good chance that he walked around
Speaker 4: the west of the the rest of the day thinking
Speaker 4: about that, and maybe you made him curious enough that
Speaker 4: later on that day or the next week, that he
Speaker 4: took the time to look into it, and maybe he
Speaker 4: found a video or a piece of information and that
Speaker 4: the next time you read Jennet, I mean, you don't
Speaker 4: know trying to get thirty forty.
Speaker 6: I do have his number, Like we've we worked beside
Speaker 6: each other, you know, quite a bit, so we do
Speaker 6: have each other's number. So I would imagine if he
Speaker 6: did come across something and he did change his mind,
Speaker 6: he would have let me know. But yeah, you know,
Speaker 6: it is a seed planet. And you know what you
Speaker 6: could tell like his programming kicked in, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean? Oh sure, it was like a brick wall
Speaker 6: of programming that well, I can't think that way.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, And that's what I was Yeah, that's what I
Speaker 4: was getting to is you can't. It's not impossible, but
Speaker 4: it's very difficult to change thirty forty fifty years of
Speaker 4: belief in a five or ten minute conversation. But even
Speaker 4: if if you're able to have a conversation and get
Speaker 4: a couple of bullet points out to them, there's there's
Speaker 4: a good chance it's going to eat at them and
Speaker 4: bother them, and it's going to cause them to look
Speaker 4: into it either more.
Speaker 5: In that case, it's it's a victory. That's where you
Speaker 5: you really have to look at it.
Speaker 6: And yeah, I did kind of make a comment once.
Speaker 6: It's in front of my older sister, who is an atheist.
Speaker 1: She is a.
Speaker 6: Staunch liberal, and honestly, I don't even know she's atheist.
Speaker 1: She acts like she just hates Scott.
Speaker 6: But we were we were at my aunt's house and
Speaker 6: she lived out in the country and you can see
Speaker 6: every star in the sky, and like, all of a sudden,
Speaker 6: I get what I guess was a satellite came flying
Speaker 6: by a drone or whatever.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think they put some stuff in
Speaker 1: the sky and make us think it satellite.
Speaker 6: I don't know if you've ever seen starlink, Yeah, that's
Speaker 6: pretty pretty wild to see.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 6: But you know I had in the very beginning, I
Speaker 6: did research, you know, because I was like, well, if
Speaker 6: Earth's flat and spaces fake, I mean, honestly, I don't
Speaker 6: know what space is. I would imagine it's liquid, it's
Speaker 6: water of a different type of water, structured water.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I look looked up satellites, you know, just the images
Speaker 6: of satellites. You can't find one real image of satellites.
Speaker 6: They're all computer generated.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just like.
Speaker 1: So if satellites are in space.
Speaker 6: My next question to myself and what I looked up
Speaker 6: next was how hot or what part of the atmosphere
Speaker 6: or the end And then what is the temperature in
Speaker 6: that atmosphere?
Speaker 1: And it gets like super hot and in some.
Speaker 6: Of the in the thermosphere, I think, and there's no way,
Speaker 6: not any of these satellites would be a function in
Speaker 6: that space.
Speaker 1: Ah.
Speaker 6: I don't have the temperature, I forget, but it was
Speaker 6: it was very hot, kind of similar to how you
Speaker 6: know they say the cameras that were on the Moon landing,
Speaker 6: you know, those would not have function.
Speaker 1: Didn't realize you know what I mean? Uh.
Speaker 6: And I actually did bring that up to my sister
Speaker 6: and my my brother in law, you know, subtly that Yeah,
Speaker 6: I don't I don't know about settlersel. I was like,
Speaker 6: do you know how to gets in the thermosphere where
Speaker 6: they're allegedly at I was like, they wouldn't even be
Speaker 6: able to handle that. And my sister was like, what
Speaker 6: do you talk about? She's like, why, ask why? And
Speaker 6: that's literally what she said, Why ask why?
Speaker 5: Why?
Speaker 6: Ask Like I'm like, you're not supposed to. Well, you're
Speaker 6: not supposed to. Why are you questioning these types of things?
Speaker 6: And that was like WHOA. So that's why she is
Speaker 6: the way she is. She doesn't question anything. And when
Speaker 6: you do question, I question everything.
Speaker 5: You have to in this day.
Speaker 4: I mean, anybody who lived through twenty twenty you have
Speaker 4: to question everything. And it's interesting that number seventeen thousand,
Speaker 4: five hundred. If you go to AI and ask it,
Speaker 4: why are there no real pictures of satellites that are
Speaker 4: out in you know, air quotes space, they say, oh,
Speaker 4: there's some out there, but they're very less common then
Speaker 4: you expect because of the distance and scale, the limited opportunities.
Speaker 4: Most satellites don't carry cameras. But then it says space
Speaker 4: is a harsh environment for photography. Satellites move at speeds
Speaker 4: at seventeen thousand, five hundred miles an hour. So according
Speaker 4: to this, satellites and the International Space Station all move
Speaker 4: at seventeen thousand, five hundred miles an hour, and they
Speaker 4: all hang out between one hundred to whatever five hundred miles.
Speaker 4: And if you ask how many the active satellites are
Speaker 4: quote unquote orbiting Earth right now, there's about twelve thousand
Speaker 4: of them.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and they wanted us at one point to think
Speaker 6: that space was littered with satellites. Yeah, and then they
Speaker 6: also I saw it was just a couple of years
Speaker 6: ago that that technically our atmosphere possibly goes all the
Speaker 6: way out to the moon. So you're telling me there's
Speaker 6: some sort of oxygen even where these space satellites are
Speaker 6: allegedly at right, But they're moving at seventeen five hundred
Speaker 6: miles an hour and like thousand degree temperatures, those things
Speaker 6: would burn up in a heartbeat.
Speaker 1: So that's just one big proof right there. For me.
Speaker 6: Another thing that amazes me and something that I learned about,
Speaker 6: was the moon. So I really love the subject of
Speaker 6: the moon. I mean, if you look at it, it
Speaker 6: is a perfect sphere, ah well, perfect circle, and it
Speaker 6: looks to me like a half a sphere. Now, my
Speaker 6: daughter had a when she was my older daughter, when
Speaker 6: she was young, she got this moon. It was you know,
Speaker 6: about probably one foot in diameter. Uh, it was like
Speaker 6: a night light and it had a little remote to it,
Speaker 6: and you could go through all the cycles of the moon.
Speaker 6: It's put up on her wall. That literally is what
Speaker 6: the moon looks like to me. Like it doesn't look
Speaker 6: like a full sphere, like a you know, a whole ball.
Speaker 6: It's like a maybe a third of a ball, a
Speaker 6: face of a ball.
Speaker 1: But I mean, how.
Speaker 6: Did it get so perfectly circular? How does it if
Speaker 6: it's a sphere that's roads, that's you know, going around
Speaker 6: the Earth, why is it only showing one side?
Speaker 1: And I know it says it rotates.
Speaker 6: You know, like once every twenty four hours, but it
Speaker 6: rotates while it's going around our earth, so we don't
Speaker 6: see it. That's that, you know, that's that's what's the
Speaker 6: word convenient for science? Right, Yeah, it rotates, but it
Speaker 6: just rose so slow that it goes along with our
Speaker 6: earth and we just don't see it now. We only
Speaker 6: see one side of it. And it's such a perfect circle.
Speaker 6: If it was a spirit, it would rotate.
Speaker 1: In theory.
Speaker 6: But to also learn that, you know, our calendars, we've
Speaker 6: been completely disconnected from God and from reality to the
Speaker 6: point where they changed for one that Abbath there they
Speaker 6: changed the the amount of months and a year, you know.
Speaker 1: You know, we're supposed to go by the moon cycles.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: When I got into that and I told my wife,
Speaker 6: I was like, you know that, you're you're like menstral
Speaker 6: cycle is along goes along with a moon cycle, and
Speaker 6: you know, we paid attention. It isn't always perfect, but
Speaker 6: it does when there's a full moon a lot of it.
Speaker 1: Most of the time. She is on her period at
Speaker 1: that time, you know.
Speaker 6: And that was to see that and then to see
Speaker 6: you know, the men's testosterone cycle is twenty four hours
Speaker 6: a day, you know, and God calls the I don't
Speaker 6: know if he's calls the sun a masculine name, but
Speaker 6: he calls the moon her light, you know. And uh,
Speaker 6: just learning things about that like that, and then to
Speaker 6: see like if I don't know if you've ever heard
Speaker 6: about this, but a turtle the scales on.
Speaker 1: A turtle's shell thirteen twenty eight is.
Speaker 6: Third and twenty eight. Yeah, and so like nature like
Speaker 6: that is design, and uh, just through all this, you know,
Speaker 6: I used to be a evolutionist.
Speaker 1: I used to believe in evolution, and my wife did not.
Speaker 1: She couldn't explain it, and she didn't like know.
Speaker 6: Much about you know, she just believed that, Yeah, we're
Speaker 6: God create us and this is this is it you
Speaker 6: God created all us. And but me, in my mind's
Speaker 6: more uh, inquisitive, you know, I like to understand things.
Speaker 6: But yeah, I believed in evolution and I no longer
Speaker 6: do like it to me now, it's kind of it's
Speaker 6: like the Obama thing. I can't believe I've learned for him,
Speaker 6: But at the same time, like I can't believe I
Speaker 6: believe that because you know, if men evolved from apes
Speaker 6: still apes, why didn't they evolved?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 6: Uh, And we're we're supposed to believe, you know, these
Speaker 6: types of things. We you know, it's just so I
Speaker 6: don't even know how to put it into words on
Speaker 6: the on how ridiculous it is, but just understanding I
Speaker 6: could see like macro evolution, you know, how like dogs
Speaker 6: came from wolves or uh, just breeds maybe how different
Speaker 6: different spece, different breeds, different species kind of turn it
Speaker 6: to different breeds, kind of like humans have different races,
Speaker 6: I guess, uh, and maybe like environmental adaptations, but as
Speaker 6: far as a whole different breed, you know, and scientists
Speaker 6: can't even explain it that they say we have like
Speaker 6: a h an unexplained, uh, part of our DNA something
Speaker 6: they don't understand. Ah, and getting into the into that
Speaker 6: that that will cover. See that if we believe that
Speaker 6: we are that were Neanderthals before humans, that's an explanation
Speaker 6: of these giant skeletons, you know, because the heads are
Speaker 6: bigger than ours, you know, and and the same with dinosaurs.
Speaker 6: That was probably the same exact name. Well, people are
Speaker 6: finding all this, these giant skeletons.
Speaker 1: All over the world.
Speaker 6: Uh, you know, we have to create dinosaurs, and you know,
Speaker 6: to think about that, you know. It's so I started,
Speaker 6: uh following this guy, this author, and I finally just
Speaker 6: got his book.
Speaker 1: My wife gave it to me for Follower's Day and
Speaker 1: it's called Birthright. Now.
Speaker 6: This guy is not a flat earther, and he like
Speaker 6: wholly believes in the solar system and all that. But
Speaker 6: his views on on Jesus and creation are I've never
Speaker 6: seen anybody discuss it the way he does or put
Speaker 6: it into that perspective. And uh, I'll suggest that you
Speaker 6: look into it. And I pray that maybe he you know,
Speaker 6: stumbles across something one day and.
Speaker 1: You know, opens his eyes.
Speaker 6: But his uh that's where he said that that humans
Speaker 6: were Neanderthal or not humans, but the giants are the
Speaker 6: Neanderthal dns. And actually and proof to go against evolution
Speaker 6: is that humans are actually evolving.
Speaker 1: We're degenerating.
Speaker 6: Ever since Adam and the way he his theory goes is,
Speaker 6: you know, Adam was a son of God. The Watchers
Speaker 6: were the sons of God. Ah Jesus he claims he
Speaker 6: is the son of Man. So here's the difference is
Speaker 6: some Jesus was born in a woman of a woman,
Speaker 6: you know, others Adam and I guess the original the
Speaker 6: Watchers were created by God and that is why they're
Speaker 6: a son of God. And Jesus the son of Man
Speaker 6: that suffered claim. Now I brought that up because when
Speaker 6: I was talking about the degeneration, you know, just just
Speaker 6: look around and think of your own your your own.
Speaker 1: Health and what that looks like.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 6: He says that, he says the blueprint of Adam like
Speaker 6: what man was supposed to be. And then when humans fell,
Speaker 6: they started degenerating. And then I guess after the Tower
Speaker 6: of Bible and God said, you know, they're no longer
Speaker 6: going to live up to a thousand years or whatever
Speaker 6: they live for one hundred and twenty.
Speaker 1: Uh, and it just makes sense.
Speaker 6: To me, you know what I mean, Like just the
Speaker 6: way that that was put into into perspective makes sense
Speaker 6: that we are degenerating.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I have to wear glasses, I
Speaker 1: have to wear contacts. You know. My back's always hurting,
Speaker 1: my knees hurt, like.
Speaker 6: And if you just look around, look at all the
Speaker 6: you know, the health problems people have. Never mind the
Speaker 6: fact that you know, we're getting hit in every angle
Speaker 6: with chemicals, radiation, Uh, those sorts of things. We're wearing
Speaker 6: plastic clothing, like the water flow out in the water,
Speaker 6: the chemicals in the water.
Speaker 1: They're just we're just hitting getting hit on all sides.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 1: Uh, you know.
Speaker 6: And you know, my family, we just do the best
Speaker 6: we can do. We try to buy you know, cotton
Speaker 6: or linen clothing. You know, we try to eat healthy.
Speaker 6: I buy the organic stuff that's affordable. And you know,
Speaker 6: it's just.
Speaker 1: Ever since.
Speaker 6: The Trump Q and on pandemic flatter like, it's just
Speaker 6: been a whirlwind of information, you know. So if I'm
Speaker 6: all over the place, because that is what is in
Speaker 6: my brain, it's a whirlwind of just in this awakening
Speaker 6: of seeing. Thanks for what it is, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean?
Speaker 4: Absolutely, And that's a really good point. And the book
Speaker 4: you're talking about, is it written by Timothy alb Alberino, Yes, sir,
Speaker 4: Birthright The Coming postum and Apocalypse and the Usurpation of
Speaker 4: Adams Dominion of Planet Earth. I'll put that link in
Speaker 4: the show notes so people can check it out.
Speaker 6: And I mean I've only started on Fither's Day, so
Speaker 6: I'm on a like a quarter of the way through it.
Speaker 6: But I mean I listened to some of his podcasts
Speaker 6: or not his podcast shows he went on talking about it,
Speaker 6: so I know that just what the.
Speaker 1: Book is about.
Speaker 6: It's basically that aliens, whether you believe in them or not.
Speaker 6: You know, whatever aliens are, whether they're demons or they're aliens,
Speaker 6: they are evil.
Speaker 1: Where they're coming from.
Speaker 6: He you know, he has his opinions, but you know
Speaker 6: he could say they're they're injured dimensional, which.
Speaker 1: Would work for us. Ah. And they are.
Speaker 6: Working, besides the Fallen Angels, to usurp the dominion of
Speaker 6: Earth by hybrid h alien hybrids and transhumanism, for us
Speaker 6: to give up our humanity and they take our humanity.
Speaker 6: It's very interesting subject to me. So is I mean
Speaker 6: the transhuman I'll say this real quick. The transhuman. That
Speaker 6: is what the future is, That is the end goal.
Speaker 6: That is what that is the mark of the beast
Speaker 6: and the way that I was so intrigued by it
Speaker 6: because one of the things he said was the mark
Speaker 6: of the beast is the mark. It's his DNA. Uh,
Speaker 6: that is the mark of the beast. D NA getting
Speaker 6: put into humans used for you know, and that's going
Speaker 6: back to the Genesis sixth agenda.
Speaker 1: Also the seal of God.
Speaker 6: You know, we you know, those who don't take the
Speaker 6: market the beasts and bear the seal of.
Speaker 1: God, that is us. I'm the image of God. You know.
Speaker 6: I'm a human being made by God and I still
Speaker 6: bear his image as long as I don't put whatever
Speaker 6: they're trying to give me into my system, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's what I didn't mean to cut you off.
Speaker 1: You're good.
Speaker 4: It's a very interesting topic because I you know, I
Speaker 4: mentioned this a lot, but I find it funny that,
Speaker 4: you know, when what's his name, the guy who runs
Speaker 4: Tesla and Twitter, Elon Musk, you know, yeah, five ten
Speaker 4: years ago, he was all about putting chips in people's brain,
Speaker 4: and everyone loathed him, and they aligned him alongside of Trump,
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden he became a hero. Lately
Speaker 4: he's back to whatever, you know, the daily drama is.
Speaker 4: But you're right, that is the end game. It really is.
Speaker 4: We are God's creation and they use everything to try
Speaker 4: to keep us away from God. Even I do believe
Speaker 4: the chemtrails, the spring of the sky is a way
Speaker 4: to keep us away from God. If you think of
Speaker 4: sun block, like just those two words sun block, like
Speaker 4: the thought that that's going to give us cancer when
Speaker 4: it's really all that. If you can just take two
Speaker 4: minutes and go to Google and ask for a list
Speaker 4: of all the suntan lotions and sprays over the last
Speaker 4: twenty five years that have been recalled because they're carcinogen
Speaker 4: causing products.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and like I said, I told you email. We
Speaker 6: just came home from Florida Sunday and I wore a
Speaker 6: sun block, and but we do buy the natural versions.
Speaker 6: I guess you could say, yeah, that don't have the
Speaker 6: harmful chemicals in them, But I mean we.
Speaker 1: Were at the beach every day. We got fried.
Speaker 6: Literally, my wife and I both are just fry my
Speaker 6: back's peeling, her whole body's peeling.
Speaker 1: So I mean, but yeah, I do agree, you.
Speaker 6: Know, and we intentionally are buying specific types of sunblocks.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, we love the son. We love to
Speaker 1: get in some.
Speaker 5: Yep, I agreed, I do too.
Speaker 4: I wanted to ask you real quick, how many how
Speaker 4: much more time do you have.
Speaker 1: About okay?
Speaker 5: Cool?
Speaker 4: I just wanted to stay on top of that, I
Speaker 4: guess did you want to did you have six silver
Speaker 4: bullets you wanted to share?
Speaker 5: As far as the flat earth proofs proofs?
Speaker 9: Sorry, you know, I never did write this down because
Speaker 9: there's just so many.
Speaker 4: Was there a certain video, one book or podcast that
Speaker 4: is there a certain video or book that you know
Speaker 4: during that transformation when you were researching that or or
Speaker 4: piece of evidence that puts you over the edge, that
Speaker 4: that made you like realize that, yeah, that the whole
Speaker 4: globe thing is a lie.
Speaker 6: Well, I watched like every Dave Weis's video and all
Speaker 6: of the podcasting wong with it, and then I found
Speaker 6: like Eddie Bravo, who I really I really liked uh
Speaker 6: and that, you know, I just and then they would
Speaker 6: have somebody on and I'd listen to those stuff. You know,
Speaker 6: I just kind of did that. But when I was
Speaker 6: you know, in that part of my you know, I
Speaker 6: guess you could say research. And when I looked up
Speaker 6: the satellite thing, that is really what pushed me over
Speaker 6: the edge, you know. And uh, when listening to you know,
Speaker 6: the author that I was telling you about, you know,
Speaker 6: the way he describes everything, I wanted that to be true. Like,
Speaker 6: you know, he one of his theories is that all
Speaker 6: the planets were you know, parts of the Kingdom of God,
Speaker 6: and each one of these angels was over that planet
Speaker 6: and then the rebellion happened and it just destroyed everything
Speaker 6: was destroyed. And then the remake of the Earth is
Speaker 6: when Genesis starts.
Speaker 1: So that's his theory. Like it's so intriguing and it
Speaker 1: sounds like like a great story. But I want to
Speaker 1: believe that.
Speaker 6: But that see, I'm seeing things different now, Like that's
Speaker 6: just that's challenging my flat earth belief. So you know,
Speaker 6: I'm just you know, all I gotta do is open
Speaker 6: my eyes and just look around.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: Uh, we're in Florida. You know, I'm sitting on the beach.
Speaker 6: That horizon is flat. Those boats. You know, I didn't
Speaker 6: have my binoculars with me or anything, because you know,
Speaker 6: I'm not trying to convince myself anymore. But I mean,
Speaker 6: you could see we were at right near Cape Canaveral,
Speaker 6: so we're actually Coco Beach and you get that were
Speaker 6: you know, the tank the tankers, the.
Speaker 1: What are those giant ships. I'm sorry, my mind's gone blank.
Speaker 1: Uh the cruise ships.
Speaker 6: Sorry, the cruise ships were taken off from right there. Yeah,
Speaker 6: they're super slow and they're huge. I couldn't believe how
Speaker 6: they were, but man, they would just go way out
Speaker 6: there and you just still see them. And even at
Speaker 6: night when you know, we'd go to dinner and then
Speaker 6: we take a walk on the beach that night, you
Speaker 6: could see the lights. They had these big, bright led
Speaker 6: lights and you could see still see their.
Speaker 1: Way out there. So I mean, it's just simple things
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 6: Another thing with this past Florida trip where you know
Speaker 6: they say the moon affects the tides and the moon
Speaker 6: how the tides are supposed to work is the moon.
Speaker 6: The gravity of the moon pools the water along with
Speaker 6: the Moon as it rotates Earth. Right, am I right
Speaker 6: in saying that that's the theory that they do, So
Speaker 6: you know, the moon. This is the moon was out
Speaker 6: in the daytime, and it was you know, if the
Speaker 6: center of the sky is twelve o'clock, it was probably
Speaker 6: like in the one or two o'clock position in the sky,
Speaker 6: going from you know, east to west.
Speaker 1: Uh So the moon had already went over ahead of us,
Speaker 1: but the water was still down up.
Speaker 6: And I even mentioned that to my wife, I said,
Speaker 6: you know, aren't the tizer is supposed to be hir
Speaker 6: right now.
Speaker 1: It's supposed to follow the moon. And that was just
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't look it up.
Speaker 6: I have before if that is actual, you know, actually
Speaker 6: what they say it is. But I'm pretty sure because
Speaker 6: I have heard, you know, throughout my education. You know,
Speaker 6: if we didn't have the moon, we'd all be dad
Speaker 6: because it affects the tithes, It affects the.
Speaker 1: Currents of the wind, the of the ocean and all that.
Speaker 6: These are just small things I see, you know, throughout
Speaker 6: my life, just my own my own eyes, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean. Another bullet point would be, I don't
Speaker 6: know how like it's it's similar to how as far
Speaker 6: as being a Christian goes, you know, they demonize Christians.
Speaker 1: The world. They hate Jesus.
Speaker 6: But they'll they'll prop up all the other religions, and
Speaker 6: they do the same thing for flat Earth.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It's it's held in that
Speaker 1: same view.
Speaker 6: I guess you could say, you know when I you know,
Speaker 6: I didn't tell my wife I was coming on here
Speaker 6: until last night. That was kind of I didn't know
Speaker 6: what she would think, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 6: in honestly, she said, well, that's kind of weird. She's like,
Speaker 6: you're not an expert. I was like, well, that's not
Speaker 6: you know, he he talks to everyday normal people.
Speaker 1: But she was like, and you're putting yourself out there
Speaker 1: as a flat earther, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: So even even people like us are still cautious of
Speaker 6: you know, these these titles that we made get caught.
Speaker 4: Absolutely a lot of in the closet flat earthers, absolutely.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 6: And just the airplanes, I don't know how they're not
Speaker 6: flying off into space, especially fighter jets.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that was the email.
Speaker 4: Somebody's saying it the other day, one of these new
Speaker 4: high hypersonic planes, talking about having to forgive me if
Speaker 4: I'm wrong. But the math was they would have to
Speaker 4: nose down ten miles every sixty seconds. That's how fast
Speaker 4: that thing goes. And that's just ridiculous. Yeah, it's just ridiculous.
Speaker 4: And by the way, as far as the tide, the
Speaker 4: official explanation is that the Moon's gravitational pool causes tides.
Speaker 4: As the Earth rotates, the Moon's gravity tug. The Moon's
Speaker 4: gravity tugs on the oceans, creating a bulge of water
Speaker 4: on the side facing the Moon. A second bulge forms
Speaker 4: on the opposite side due to inertia as the Earth's ends.
Speaker 4: Coastal areas move through these bulges, experiencing high end low
Speaker 4: tides every twelve hours.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So yeah, that's what I thought. And when I brought
Speaker 6: up to my wife that, she was like, then what
Speaker 6: does cause the Earth is breathing, it has the breath
Speaker 6: of light. I mean, that's I don't know, but that
Speaker 6: sounds sounds good to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, because.
Speaker 6: I pointed it out, and you know, it was just
Speaker 6: it's one of those things where you just see it
Speaker 6: and you're like, hold on, this isn't this isn't right. Oh,
Speaker 6: and then let's see I think that was like number four,
Speaker 6: number five. So yeah, they they say that the Earth bulges,
Speaker 6: and I know that Neil deGrasse Tyson. He says that
Speaker 6: the Earth is like a when they say an oblique speroid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that so there is a pause.
Speaker 6: But when they every every I think they're using the
Speaker 6: image of the moon or the sun to show what
Speaker 6: the how around the Earth is because it is perfectly
Speaker 6: sphiraical when they when they show it to us.
Speaker 1: Woh, so that's a contradiction.
Speaker 6: You know, basically the explanations that scientists give us, you know,
Speaker 6: aren't factual, you know what I mean, Uh, logically, thank you.
Speaker 6: And then I guess I put number six is NASA.
Speaker 6: Uh that place it is, it's fate And uh, you know,
Speaker 6: we were right next to space Kennedy Space Center. You know,
Speaker 6: did you know that they turned that into now it
Speaker 6: is space Force, Yes, Kennedy Space Force.
Speaker 1: And uh.
Speaker 6: You know I was I zoomed in with my camera.
Speaker 6: I got a beat and ned camera on my phone,
Speaker 6: so I was zooming in. You could see where it
Speaker 6: was from the beach, and uh, the place is empty.
Speaker 6: And so I went on maps and was just trying
Speaker 6: to you know, looking seeing what they have over there.
Speaker 6: It looks like on one side, it's kind of like a
Speaker 6: small town I guess ah, but yeah, it's it's all
Speaker 6: for show there based on what I saw you. I mean,
Speaker 6: they didn't have anything going on there, and the fact
Speaker 6: that they kind of now like here, elon, you do it,
Speaker 6: you do it now, you know what I mean, because
Speaker 6: they kind of trying to pull back a little bit, yep,
Speaker 6: because they're so obvious. But I mean it's it's almost
Speaker 6: they're so obvious. They it seems like they're intentionally obvious.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the same way I feel like they intentionally overplayed COVID.
Speaker 4: I think they're the part that they're the point now
Speaker 4: where they realized that nobody's going to do anything about it,
Speaker 4: that there's just openly macus by doing these these silly
Speaker 4: things every single day, whether it's you know, Trump dropping
Speaker 4: an F bomb or uh, you know, Biden telling us
Speaker 4: whoever doesn't get vaccinated is going to die. I mean,
Speaker 4: all off, if you think back over the last twenty years,
Speaker 4: really since nine to eleven, and that's another, you know,
Speaker 4: one of the greatest lies of our time. For sure,
Speaker 4: it's just open mockery knowing that nothing there, there's never
Speaker 4: going to be accountability.
Speaker 6: All right, So I guess Uh, I'm signing off what
Speaker 6: and I have, you know, something to say is uh,
Speaker 6: you know whether the Earth round or flat? I don't know,
Speaker 6: to be honest, and you know I had to. I
Speaker 6: had to actually, you know, think about this what I
Speaker 6: really believe. I'm about to go on on a podcast.
Speaker 6: You know about this, And you know, I know that
Speaker 6: you're an open minded person. You don't really have all
Speaker 6: the you know, you know, you don't have all the answers,
Speaker 6: and you could be wrong about this and you can
Speaker 6: be wrong about that, and you know, I try to
Speaker 6: have that same ah paradigm.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 6: But the flat Earth is just a small part of it.
Speaker 6: You know where you said they overplayed their hand with COVID,
Speaker 6: and my I think it's on purpose. I think they
Speaker 6: believe Jesus is coming back soon. And so now we're
Speaker 6: on like fast forward to then times. Ah, that's what
Speaker 6: it seems like. You know, everything's happened fast AH. And
Speaker 6: I believe that they believe the end times are coming
Speaker 6: and they have to get us to a certain position
Speaker 6: and all for in order for all this to work
Speaker 6: out in their favor. Obviously, you know, you know how
Speaker 6: the story ends. And so I'm not worried, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean. And I just had a coworker who's
Speaker 6: also a Christian, you know, yesterday when we were we
Speaker 6: were working together for a little bit, and he said,
Speaker 6: are you ready for the end times? Just casually say
Speaker 6: that to me? You know, yeah, man, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean. Yeah, I feel like I'm I'm right with God,
Speaker 6: my family is. Honestly, I don't want that to happen.
Speaker 6: You know, I want to see my daughters grow up,
Speaker 6: and you know, I want to grow old with my
Speaker 6: wife and travel with the world and all these things.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. But if it were to happen,
Speaker 1: am I actually ready? You know it is?
Speaker 6: Is Jesus going to you know? You know you know
Speaker 6: how Jesus says, uh, I don't know you. You know
Speaker 6: what I mean, Like like you we Jesus, we exercise
Speaker 6: demons in your name and you know, sell the good
Speaker 6: things about you, but they were not genuine in their
Speaker 6: in their beliefs.
Speaker 1: And you know, Jesus says in front of.
Speaker 6: The file, I'll say, I don't know you, but I
Speaker 6: feel like you know, God knows you know that I
Speaker 6: have you know, repented my sins and and faithfully following Jesus. H.
Speaker 6: And that is what that is the important part, you know,
Speaker 6: that is the that is the big picture. H. And
Speaker 6: if I were, you know, I had anything to say
Speaker 6: to anybody, I would hear this is just look into it,
Speaker 6: look into flutter, look into Jesus. Learn a little bit
Speaker 6: about Jesus. You're gonna get if you're not a Christian
Speaker 6: or know anything about God, you're gonna something is going
Speaker 6: to spark inside of you that feels good and you're
Speaker 6: gonna have that thirst for more. And I just would
Speaker 6: challenge a person to do that.
Speaker 5: That's a great way to close it out.
Speaker 4: And two things I'd like to add as we sign
Speaker 4: off is I've meant to mention we were talking about
Speaker 4: NASA and their logo. If you guys don't know the
Speaker 4: guy who came up with the logo for NASA, it
Speaker 4: was one of those you know, hey, everybody submit your
Speaker 4: logos and we're going to vote and see who wins. Well,
Speaker 4: the guy who created the logo with the snake tongue,
Speaker 4: his name is James Motorelli and he just happened to
Speaker 4: be an employee of the CIA, So that's a fact.
Speaker 4: There's even a Facebook post the CIA Honolut honors our
Speaker 4: former alumni James Motorelli, who created the NASA logo. And
Speaker 4: the other thing is, like you said, repentance, having true repentance,
Speaker 4: the last thing you want to do is stand before
Speaker 4: God say I never knew you depart from me right,
Speaker 4: And you are a prime example of true repentance. And
Speaker 4: you've turned your life around, and you've been just such
Speaker 4: an honorable man and coming on here and sharing your
Speaker 4: testimony and being a great husband and father. And I
Speaker 4: know you took your lunch break to share your testimony today,
Speaker 4: and I know you've got to get back to work,
Speaker 4: so I'll give you the last work to share with
Speaker 4: your audience.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to thank you, George. I really.
Speaker 6: Enjoy doing this with you, and I really respect this
Speaker 6: minister you have going on of sharing the truth. And
Speaker 6: I'll just I applaud you for your word and I'll
Speaker 6: just ask God to bless you.
Speaker 5: I appreciate that.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much, and God bless you, and God
Speaker 4: bless all of our listeners and everyone who's come on
Speaker 4: over the last two and a half years to share
Speaker 4: your story. And again, if you'd like to join us
Speaker 4: on the podcast, he send us an email to fi
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Speaker 5: For Adam.
Speaker 4: I'm George. Everybody have a great weekend. Until we meet again,
Speaker 4: my friends, we will see it.
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