WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:03.080 I think that the best way to come into this. 2 00:00:04.440 --> 00:00:07.400 Is and this is my big takeaway after our conversation 3 00:00:07.599 --> 00:00:11.000 about this film. So I do this radio hit obviously, 4 00:00:11.160 --> 00:00:13.000 or we're recording it, I want to make sure, Okay, 5 00:00:13.160 --> 00:00:15.119 So I do this radio hit on Ben's show on 6 00:00:15.199 --> 00:00:18.760 Tuesdays as we preview this podcast to what the appetites 7 00:00:18.800 --> 00:00:24.239 of his listeners. And it was one of those rare 8 00:00:24.320 --> 00:00:26.280 circumstances where both of us had. 9 00:00:26.160 --> 00:00:27.440 Seen the movie already. 10 00:00:27.679 --> 00:00:30.079 Sometimes I had seen it and you haven't. Sometimes you 11 00:00:30.120 --> 00:00:33.119 had seen it and I hadn't. Sometimes neither one of 12 00:00:33.200 --> 00:00:34.039 us had seen it yet. 13 00:00:34.240 --> 00:00:34.520 Yeah. 14 00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:37.359 In fact, I think that happens most that's the norm. Yeh, 15 00:00:37.640 --> 00:00:41.159 Tuesdays are the cheap days, right, exactly so, but this 16 00:00:41.240 --> 00:00:44.159 is one of the rare times where we both saw 17 00:00:44.200 --> 00:00:48.799 it and I was really really surprised to hear that. 18 00:00:50.119 --> 00:00:53.399 I mean, you're there was no praise from you. It 19 00:00:53.719 --> 00:00:56.840 was the most underwhelming reaction. I got free because I 20 00:00:56.840 --> 00:00:58.679 thought you're gonna be so. I even said you, I'm like, 21 00:00:58.719 --> 00:01:00.920 weren't you happy you saw your dead body? 22 00:01:01.320 --> 00:01:04.480 Huh? And you were like, well, Bulky, it's certainly a movie. 23 00:01:04.599 --> 00:01:07.480 Yeah, And I'm like, wow, I do not understand you 24 00:01:07.519 --> 00:01:10.000 mentioned this is like episode forty something whatever. 25 00:01:09.760 --> 00:01:12.319 Forty on the button, technically forty one if you count 26 00:01:12.359 --> 00:01:13.920 the bride, right, let's not talk about it. 27 00:01:14.280 --> 00:01:18.400 So when you told me that, I was like, and 28 00:01:18.480 --> 00:01:20.799 I felt like I had you figured out. I kind 29 00:01:20.840 --> 00:01:22.799 of knew what you liked and what you did. Yeah, 30 00:01:22.840 --> 00:01:25.319 I don't anymore. No, it's still evolving now. 31 00:01:25.400 --> 00:01:28.560 And I admitted off the air without exposing too much 32 00:01:28.599 --> 00:01:31.200 for the purposes of this podcast. Your mind frame. It's 33 00:01:31.280 --> 00:01:33.599 kind of like when you suggest to your wife or 34 00:01:33.640 --> 00:01:37.719 significant other or girlfriend, boyfriend, whatever, brother, sister, Hey, you 35 00:01:37.879 --> 00:01:40.359 gotta see this movie. I really enjoyed it. You know 36 00:01:40.359 --> 00:01:43.280 what that happened to me with was The Mothman Prophecies 37 00:01:43.319 --> 00:01:46.480 with Richard gear Wow, that's a how old is that movie? 38 00:01:46.599 --> 00:01:48.439 Very old? I saw it as a child when it 39 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:50.239 was in theaters, and I was like, this is one 40 00:01:50.280 --> 00:01:51.959 of the best things I've ever seen in my life. 41 00:01:51.959 --> 00:01:53.799 And when I was twenty one, I worked at a 42 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:56.879 summer camp and I got a bunch of the counselors 43 00:01:56.879 --> 00:01:58.879 together one night when we were all off, I'm like, guys, 44 00:01:58.879 --> 00:02:00.840 you have to see this movie. It's like two hours 45 00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:03.239 and twenty minutes. Long and I could tell, like forty 46 00:02:03.239 --> 00:02:06.280 minutes in, I'm like, my twelve year old brain maybe 47 00:02:06.359 --> 00:02:09.439 overhyped this movie, yeah, relative to what it is. And 48 00:02:09.479 --> 00:02:12.520 you could feel the tension coming off of people. I 49 00:02:12.520 --> 00:02:14.639 did not see this movie with anybody else, but I 50 00:02:14.680 --> 00:02:17.039 was very distracted. I saw it on a Sunday. I 51 00:02:17.039 --> 00:02:19.080 had a lot of things going on. I was riding high. 52 00:02:19.159 --> 00:02:21.960 The Pens had finally won a game in their Flyer series, 53 00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:23.800 but I still didn't have a lot of hope. But 54 00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:26.560 I think it was the mindset at which I was 55 00:02:26.599 --> 00:02:29.120 watching it and the movies over your dead body, and 56 00:02:29.199 --> 00:02:32.280 like it's dislikable characters, right, Like you're not supposed to 57 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:35.599 like these characters, none of them. Yeah, it's like it's 58 00:02:35.639 --> 00:02:38.800 like a slog. It's fun, it's funny, it's got its moments. 59 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:41.039 But I think it was the perfect storm and I will, 60 00:02:41.080 --> 00:02:43.319 in all likelihood probably see this again because I think 61 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:45.879 my life circumstances impacted me. But I came out of 62 00:02:45.879 --> 00:02:49.599 it and I compared it to Roses with you on 63 00:02:49.960 --> 00:02:51.520 the show, and I was like, if you told me 64 00:02:51.560 --> 00:02:54.400 in terms of a marital couple going through strife, and 65 00:02:54.439 --> 00:02:56.319 I could only pick one of these movies. I'd pick 66 00:02:56.439 --> 00:02:58.400 Roses ten out of ten times, which, of course is 67 00:02:58.439 --> 00:03:00.879 the only one you didn't see this podcast. It's not 68 00:03:00.919 --> 00:03:02.520 like you have a frame of reference here for that. 69 00:03:02.759 --> 00:03:05.240 But that was kind of my attitude, having such a 70 00:03:05.719 --> 00:03:09.879 fresh comparison of something to compare it against. I think 71 00:03:09.919 --> 00:03:12.560 kind of also went against it as well, dancing around 72 00:03:12.560 --> 00:03:16.599 the topic. We'll be doing this throughout the podcast. That 73 00:03:16.719 --> 00:03:19.159 is not what this movie is about. I mean I 74 00:03:19.199 --> 00:03:21.840 should know, I shouldn't say that. It kind of is, sure, 75 00:03:22.039 --> 00:03:26.039 that's the overarching theme, that is, it's not necessarily the plot. 76 00:03:26.000 --> 00:03:28.680 Right, Yeah, that's a good way of describing it. So 77 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:32.280 this is a spoiler alert, and by spoiler I. 78 00:03:32.360 --> 00:03:34.960 Mean first third, well, end of the like no, no, no, 79 00:03:35.000 --> 00:03:35.680 I'm not even that. 80 00:03:36.159 --> 00:03:39.400 A lot of times I will, you know, go on 81 00:03:39.479 --> 00:03:42.599 the internet to kind of get a frame of mind 82 00:03:42.639 --> 00:03:44.719 of like what I'm expecting, you know, to see what 83 00:03:45.039 --> 00:03:47.479 it's about. And a lot of times these films are 84 00:03:47.520 --> 00:03:50.000 based off of books or other movies, right sure, And 85 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:52.560 so sometimes I will go and look up, you know, 86 00:03:52.879 --> 00:03:54.800 more about that book or more about that movie, which 87 00:03:54.840 --> 00:03:58.719 obviously contained massive spoilers. I did not do that for 88 00:03:58.840 --> 00:04:01.439 this one, and I'm thrilled that I didn't. This is 89 00:04:01.479 --> 00:04:06.479 based off a oh Man I forgot now it's Norwegian 90 00:04:06.560 --> 00:04:11.319 or Finish. I think it's Finish, a film from about 91 00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:14.360 twenty years ago now, I want to say, called The Trip, 92 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:17.639 and it's the exact same basically, the exact same plot 93 00:04:17.839 --> 00:04:20.920 as Over Your Dead Body. Okay, So if you're like, oh, 94 00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:22.959 I'll just look up The Trip and say don't do 95 00:04:23.040 --> 00:04:26.480 it because it will ruin it for you, and I didn't. 96 00:04:26.759 --> 00:04:29.000 I did that after Now there's like some little subtle 97 00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:33.040 differences or whatever, but basically it was that. And I'm 98 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:35.920 thrilled because I'm sitting so two things in the first 99 00:04:35.959 --> 00:04:38.399 thirty minutes number one, second straight week, I thought I 100 00:04:38.439 --> 00:04:40.920 was in the wrong theater for how this started. Sure, 101 00:04:41.120 --> 00:04:44.959 it was a brilliant, brilliant start to this film, and 102 00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:47.399 then about a half hour in the cards are kind 103 00:04:47.399 --> 00:04:49.000 of on the table the way that they build this 104 00:04:49.240 --> 00:04:51.439 in the trailer. You know what I should have done 105 00:04:51.480 --> 00:04:53.160 is I should have went back and watched the trailer 106 00:04:53.199 --> 00:04:55.920 and see how much they reveal in the trailer. I 107 00:04:55.959 --> 00:04:57.120 don't think it was a ton. 108 00:04:57.079 --> 00:05:00.000 No, remember exactly. Yeah, I actually did rewatch the trailer 109 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:02.879 and how much, did it really? Yeah? Almost nothing. Yeah, 110 00:05:02.879 --> 00:05:04.839 because I was interested as well if they gave away 111 00:05:04.959 --> 00:05:06.800 some of the some of the moments there, and they 112 00:05:06.839 --> 00:05:07.079 did not. 113 00:05:07.279 --> 00:05:09.759 Yeah, So about a half hour thirty five minutes in, 114 00:05:12.199 --> 00:05:15.920 Jason Sieagel's character and Samara Weaving's character are sitting at 115 00:05:16.040 --> 00:05:19.160 the kitchen table or their dining room table at their 116 00:05:19.279 --> 00:05:22.319 cabin and I'm assuming like upstate New York or somewhere 117 00:05:22.399 --> 00:05:27.160 somewhere on there and basically everything like like they're sitting 118 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:29.120 at the table, the cards were on the table, Like 119 00:05:29.639 --> 00:05:32.720 I'm like, how are they going to extend another seventy 120 00:05:32.800 --> 00:05:34.279 minutes of this storyline? 121 00:05:34.399 --> 00:05:34.639 Yeah? 122 00:05:34.639 --> 00:05:39.680 You know, and if I thought of you too, because 123 00:05:39.720 --> 00:05:41.160 I actually did think of it this time. 124 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:43.199 Eagle eyed. You don't even have to be really egoied. 125 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:49.879 But viewers who noticed something that was placed, sure in 126 00:05:49.879 --> 00:05:52.040 that first thirty thirty five minutes, they're like, well, how 127 00:05:52.079 --> 00:05:52.920 is that going to come back? 128 00:05:52.959 --> 00:05:53.120 Oh? 129 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:56.199 It does, It does big time, And I'm proud that 130 00:05:56.240 --> 00:05:59.160 I saw it, you know, like I noticed at this time, like, well, 131 00:05:59.160 --> 00:06:01.680 obviously this is gonna be this is gonna be a thing. 132 00:06:02.040 --> 00:06:04.319 And then sure enough, when it's actually Oh, in the 133 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:08.399 flashbacks that we got a nonlinear storytelling was sublime. I'll 134 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:10.800 set this up to you already know this. This was 135 00:06:10.879 --> 00:06:14.879 Nick Cochin and Brian McIlhaney, the guys who wrote and 136 00:06:14.920 --> 00:06:18.759 directed Pizza Movie. They wrote this film, and then Yorma Taconi, 137 00:06:18.879 --> 00:06:21.720 who is a member of Lonely Island with Akiva Schaeffer 138 00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:24.879 and Andy Samberg. He actually directed it, and he directed 139 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:27.560 some other SNL stuff like mcgruber. 140 00:06:27.120 --> 00:06:28.319 And Rod and whatever. 141 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:31.720 So anyway, so you know there's like a potential for 142 00:06:32.199 --> 00:06:35.600 fresh stuff, right, maybe some stuff you've never seen before, 143 00:06:35.920 --> 00:06:42.160 and and things shone through an absurdist, hilarious lens. Yeah, 144 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:44.560 which I think we got. Oh absolutely, and I think 145 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:48.399 like some like Okay, my buddy Stirfry at work, he 146 00:06:48.480 --> 00:06:49.959 does not appreciate films like this. 147 00:06:50.120 --> 00:06:51.839 I told him, I think you might like this, but 148 00:06:51.879 --> 00:06:52.839 I know Ben'll like it. 149 00:06:53.720 --> 00:06:55.399 But I could see totally see why he wouldn't like 150 00:06:55.439 --> 00:06:57.079 it because there was some stuff and you mentioned this 151 00:06:57.120 --> 00:06:58.399 too over the top. 152 00:06:58.680 --> 00:07:02.120 Yeah just great. I mean for me, it was great. 153 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:05.680 I thought it was everything involving Juliette Lewis. 154 00:07:06.439 --> 00:07:10.040 Well, yeah, and the former mm A guy who was 155 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:12.000 also in this film too. I can't remember who named 156 00:07:12.199 --> 00:07:15.959 Jardine Keith Jardine, I think his name is. There's just 157 00:07:16.040 --> 00:07:19.279 a lot of like crazy stuff. Timothy Oliphant was great 158 00:07:19.319 --> 00:07:22.240 because he basically played a version of himself. I think 159 00:07:22.240 --> 00:07:24.360 it is awesome. He reminded me a lot. Do you 160 00:07:24.480 --> 00:07:26.839 remember the movie Go. I think we've talked about Go before, 161 00:07:27.399 --> 00:07:30.160 Katie Holmesye, he was like, he was like, I would 162 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:32.079 not surprise me at all if that was the same 163 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:34.639 character from Go that he played in this in this 164 00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:37.040 movie anyway, So that was the setup for the first 165 00:07:37.079 --> 00:07:38.879 half hour. I'm like, how are they going to extend this? 166 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:40.480 And then they did and it was awesome. 167 00:07:40.959 --> 00:07:42.879 I can say from the first half hour, you know 168 00:07:42.920 --> 00:07:46.959 what I felt oddly reminiscent of is the breakup with 169 00:07:47.680 --> 00:07:50.759 Vince Vaughn and Jennifer A little bit. Yeah, because think 170 00:07:50.759 --> 00:07:53.920 about that, so you are maybe are too far removed 171 00:07:53.959 --> 00:07:58.319 from the dating world because I the small talk. I 172 00:07:58.439 --> 00:08:01.079 remember being in an out We're in a half car 173 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:04.480 ride with a girl or woman that I was dating 174 00:08:04.560 --> 00:08:06.920 that you knew it was on its last legs and 175 00:08:07.000 --> 00:08:09.920 trying to fill an hour and a half of travel 176 00:08:10.279 --> 00:08:14.959 with dialogue. Some witty banter boy drinks were kind of 177 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:17.399 strong at that party. Huh, you know, like that kind 178 00:08:17.439 --> 00:08:19.279 of stuff. And I think they did a really good 179 00:08:19.360 --> 00:08:21.879 job of capturing that feeling, and that was probably the 180 00:08:21.920 --> 00:08:24.920 most relatable at any point, because like it gets to 181 00:08:24.959 --> 00:08:27.079 an absurdist point and at that point, I'm like, oh, no, 182 00:08:27.199 --> 00:08:29.480 we've all been here. And I've always kind of used 183 00:08:29.480 --> 00:08:31.759 the breakup as my main go to because I had 184 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:34.440 a good friend of mine because I stupid me, I 185 00:08:34.440 --> 00:08:35.879 thought they were going to make up at the end 186 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:37.720 of the movie and he's like, dude, the movie's called 187 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:39.559 the Breakup, And I was like, I guess I didn't 188 00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:42.480 expect that. Yeah, I didn't. I fully expected to make 189 00:08:42.600 --> 00:08:45.039 up too. Yeah. And so like there's moments that just 190 00:08:45.080 --> 00:08:49.200 feel like such real relationships and real fights that break 191 00:08:49.240 --> 00:08:52.320 out in the moment. This doesn't necessarily hit that level 192 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:55.159 of realism, but I did feel that awkward feeling in 193 00:08:55.159 --> 00:08:56.960 your stomach. You're like, oh, this is criinge. Like I 194 00:08:57.000 --> 00:08:59.159 almost I say, I can watch a Saw movie. I 195 00:08:59.159 --> 00:09:01.159 can watch someone up their arm off and be like, oh, 196 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:04.120 this is gross. But when it's cringe, when it's uncomfortable, 197 00:09:04.120 --> 00:09:07.159 when it's awkward, that's when I'm watching behind Like have 198 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:10.000 a finger, like stop talking, stop talking. 199 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:13.559 Rachel McAdams in that movie we just saw the Island. 200 00:09:13.159 --> 00:09:14.000 One, what was it called? 201 00:09:14.240 --> 00:09:17.120 Oh yes, send Help, Send Help, where she's talking to 202 00:09:17.679 --> 00:09:22.240 like her boss in the office that kills. So I'll say, 203 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:24.639 this is a guy who's been married to his wife 204 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:26.879 now for oh man, I got to think about this. 205 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:31.960 It'll be fourteen years this December. I think, yeah, fourteen, 206 00:09:32.120 --> 00:09:34.440 but I've been with her since two thousand and two, Okay, 207 00:09:34.559 --> 00:09:35.840 so really I've been with her for two and a 208 00:09:35.840 --> 00:09:39.679 half decades. Yeah, like I've been with somebody longer than 209 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:41.480 I've been single, essentially. 210 00:09:41.080 --> 00:09:44.120 Well kind of, yeah, that might be accurate. I don't know. Yeah, 211 00:09:44.120 --> 00:09:46.240 it's definitely accurate, right, it's definitely accurate. 212 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:53.360 Yes, those uncomfortable silences and and you know, marriage being 213 00:09:53.639 --> 00:09:56.919 hard work sometimes, like you could tell that they were 214 00:09:56.960 --> 00:10:00.240 both trying to be cordial to each other, right, but sometime, 215 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:02.039 especially in a marriage like that, which thank god, my 216 00:10:02.039 --> 00:10:03.480 marriage is not like that, at least I don't think 217 00:10:03.480 --> 00:10:04.240 my wife could tell me. 218 00:10:04.600 --> 00:10:05.480 It's not like that for me. 219 00:10:07.320 --> 00:10:09.919 Uh there, But it's like nails on the chalkboard, like 220 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:12.120 super painful to try, and you could tell the pain 221 00:10:12.200 --> 00:10:15.480 that Jason segels like where he's trying to be super 222 00:10:15.559 --> 00:10:19.120 nice and and you know, like, I mean, the thing 223 00:10:19.240 --> 00:10:22.720 is I forgot in that moment he's plotting to kill her, right, 224 00:10:22.759 --> 00:10:23.360 you know what I mean? 225 00:10:23.480 --> 00:10:25.840 Like in that moment it was and they portrayed him 226 00:10:25.840 --> 00:10:28.399 as more hapless, like she was far more stern. There's 227 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:30.519 a bit of character in version as the time goes 228 00:10:30.559 --> 00:10:32.519 as the movie goes on, but at least at the 229 00:10:32.559 --> 00:10:34.759 starting point, he was almost like, oh. 230 00:10:34.559 --> 00:10:36.960 Fish well, I think that that kind of goes back 231 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:41.159 with their careers where she's the demanding, right aspiring actress 232 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:45.320 that and she's obviously much more attractive than Jason Seal. 233 00:10:45.799 --> 00:10:48.679 And he's sort of like this beaten down director who 234 00:10:49.159 --> 00:10:52.440 had this one film and now he's directing pop up ads, 235 00:10:52.720 --> 00:10:54.399 which I didn't even know was a thing. I guess 236 00:10:54.399 --> 00:10:57.440 it has to be a thing. And he just he's 237 00:10:57.519 --> 00:10:59.840 just he's got this low self esteem. He goes to 238 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:01.720 is it his dad in the nursing home, who was 239 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:03.960 another great character in this movie. He goes to visit 240 00:11:04.000 --> 00:11:05.759 his dad in the nursing home, and his dad's like, 241 00:11:06.080 --> 00:11:09.440 you know, just destroying him, you know, yeah, just I 242 00:11:09.919 --> 00:11:14.320 just I feel like, this was a guy that had 243 00:11:14.360 --> 00:11:17.120 had so much stuff go bad in his life. We know, 244 00:11:17.200 --> 00:11:20.840 but it's financial for troubles in this movie, and even 245 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:22.879 the thing that he needed to go right, he couldn't 246 00:11:22.879 --> 00:11:23.159 even do. 247 00:11:23.159 --> 00:11:24.399 That right, you know what I mean. 248 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:27.159 It just really was was bumbling, which is which is 249 00:11:27.240 --> 00:11:30.159 kind of cool to see how his character sort of evolved. 250 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:34.320 When you're in these tight situations and you're in the 251 00:11:34.399 --> 00:11:37.120 in the moment, you need to make split second decisions 252 00:11:37.159 --> 00:11:39.320 that can change your life or whatever, it was interesting 253 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:40.759 to see how that character evolved as well. 254 00:11:40.879 --> 00:11:44.279 Yeah, yeah, I always think that's an interesting plot device. 255 00:11:44.320 --> 00:11:45.960 Were you a fan of Malcolm in the Middle when 256 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:49.200 it was on? You know what's funny? I should have 257 00:11:49.240 --> 00:11:51.960 watched this show. Yeah, absolutely it had. 258 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:54.320 I mean there's technically four brothers, but one is in 259 00:11:54.440 --> 00:11:56.759 boarding school. Yeah, so really was three brothers, and I 260 00:11:56.799 --> 00:11:59.120 came with a family from a family of three brothers. 261 00:11:59.320 --> 00:12:01.039 Now I was in the middle, but I was the 262 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:03.960 oldest one or whatever. But I remember watching the pilot 263 00:12:04.039 --> 00:12:06.639 at my grandma's house after like a football game on 264 00:12:06.720 --> 00:12:08.639 Fox or something. Yeah, it was after the Super Bowl. 265 00:12:08.720 --> 00:12:10.679 I was after the Super Bowl. Yeah, so I watched 266 00:12:10.679 --> 00:12:12.559 I watched the pilot and I'm like, oh, this this 267 00:12:12.559 --> 00:12:15.000 will be a good show. Never watch it again. Yeah, 268 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:16.840 And I had Brian Kranston and who I'm a big 269 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:19.080 fan of, and they just I just watched the four 270 00:12:19.080 --> 00:12:20.480 episode reboots. 271 00:12:20.000 --> 00:12:22.799 So it was only four EPISODESO. Yeah, it was wonderful. Okay, 272 00:12:22.879 --> 00:12:25.039 so well they had no business being that good, But 273 00:12:25.080 --> 00:12:28.159 I bring that up to say so I loved that 274 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:30.360 show as well. I related to Malcolm on so many 275 00:12:30.399 --> 00:12:32.440 different levels. A lot of the characters are reminiscent in 276 00:12:32.480 --> 00:12:34.840 who I grew up with. It's a very dysfunctional family. 277 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:36.799 They love each other, but they have a weird way 278 00:12:36.840 --> 00:12:38.879 of showing it. And at one point they break the 279 00:12:38.960 --> 00:12:41.159 mom to the point where she just grabs the keys 280 00:12:41.159 --> 00:12:43.279 and leaves and they've never seen that before. She goes 281 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:45.759 to the batting cages and she is just jack and 282 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:47.919 dingers and like all these other kids are waiting to 283 00:12:47.919 --> 00:12:50.080 get in and she's like a grown ass woman. So 284 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:52.679 she like pulls out eighty dollars worth of quarters to 285 00:12:52.759 --> 00:12:55.000 let them know, like, you will not be batting at 286 00:12:55.000 --> 00:12:57.080 this batting case today. This is gonna be me for 287 00:12:57.120 --> 00:13:02.639 the foreseeable future. And two clus just a relief stress. Yeah, 288 00:13:02.679 --> 00:13:06.480 and two clowns come up to her. Literal clowns come 289 00:13:06.519 --> 00:13:08.519 up and they say, hey, lady, it's a birthday party. 290 00:13:08.519 --> 00:13:09.960 Why don't you get out of the way. And at 291 00:13:09.960 --> 00:13:11.840 that point, the rest of the family was there, and 292 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:13.960 they see the way the clowns are talking to the 293 00:13:14.000 --> 00:13:17.120 mom and the way they reconcile their differences. Is the 294 00:13:17.159 --> 00:13:19.720 whole family beats the crap out of like a half 295 00:13:19.720 --> 00:13:22.440 a dozen clowns through different ways, and they come out 296 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:25.399 of it on the other side realizing, yes, we are dysfunctional, 297 00:13:25.480 --> 00:13:28.879 but were this kind of dysfunctional? And like that to 298 00:13:28.919 --> 00:13:30.960 me was what they were setting up. That was what 299 00:13:31.279 --> 00:13:34.080 kind of lent itself to me the entire time. And 300 00:13:34.120 --> 00:13:37.000 I thought in that regard, they hit it on a 301 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:37.679 lot of levels. 302 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:40.399 Okay, so let me ask you this. You got breakup 303 00:13:40.519 --> 00:13:43.759 vibes from this? Yeah, the movie The Breakup? You knew 304 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:46.039 how surprised you were at the ending of the breakup? 305 00:13:46.519 --> 00:13:48.720 Did that enter in your mind as you're watching this 306 00:13:48.799 --> 00:13:49.559 film towards the end? 307 00:13:50.840 --> 00:13:54.240 No, No, I think it was a very uh do 308 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:56.679 I use the word tacky? I think it ended exactly 309 00:13:56.679 --> 00:13:58.759 how you end this kind of movie. Okay, yeah, all 310 00:13:58.759 --> 00:14:01.080 the way up until like the litteral real final scene, 311 00:14:01.240 --> 00:14:04.639 I would say it is. It is absolutely the way 312 00:14:04.639 --> 00:14:05.759 that you would explain. You know. 313 00:14:05.759 --> 00:14:07.759 There's kind of like a mini twist that has nothing 314 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:10.320 to do with the plot really at the very end, 315 00:14:10.399 --> 00:14:12.960 the last couple of scenes with a cameo, a couple 316 00:14:12.960 --> 00:14:16.960 of cameos actually, and I did not see that coming down. 317 00:14:17.080 --> 00:14:18.320 That was pretty awesome. 318 00:14:18.399 --> 00:14:22.399 Yeah, okay, So what else did I want to say 319 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:27.919 about the setup to this movie? Oh there's a line 320 00:14:27.960 --> 00:14:31.399 that Samorrow Weaving says, I'm not going to repeat when 321 00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:35.320 they enter the cabin, right okay, and she says something 322 00:14:35.519 --> 00:14:40.480 it's it's wine o'clock and exploitive after that. Yeah, I've 323 00:14:40.559 --> 00:14:42.840 probably said that line a half dozen times since I've 324 00:14:42.879 --> 00:14:47.080 seen this. I just and she said it. She's Australian, right, 325 00:14:47.360 --> 00:14:51.480 She's Australian, And she says it in like a very 326 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:53.639 she's even Australian in this film, but she has this 327 00:14:53.679 --> 00:14:57.320 Australian accent. She says it in a very like Midwestern 328 00:14:57.360 --> 00:15:00.000 the almost American accent. 329 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:02.639 So she very rarely has the accent. She's normally playing 330 00:15:02.720 --> 00:15:05.240 an American. Yeah, exactly like we just saw. But she's 331 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:07.960 a good actress. Absolutely, I told you, in my opinion, 332 00:15:08.120 --> 00:15:11.759 if she's in a horror movie ready or not too Notwithstanding, 333 00:15:12.399 --> 00:15:15.120 I'm typically like, oh, I'm at least giving this a shot, 334 00:15:15.279 --> 00:15:18.559 because she very rarely is in something that I'm like, oh, well, 335 00:15:18.559 --> 00:15:21.200 that wasn't worth my time. Like, I absolutely, I think 336 00:15:21.200 --> 00:15:24.159 she's the twenty twenty screen queen. If she can close 337 00:15:24.200 --> 00:15:28.440 out the decade in the right way. I think she's 338 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:30.679 going to be in like the realm of like Heather 339 00:15:30.840 --> 00:15:34.840 Langen camp and Sidney nev Campbell and you know, the 340 00:15:34.879 --> 00:15:36.960 handful of others that kind of made a name for 341 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:38.559 themselves in the horror genre. 342 00:15:38.720 --> 00:15:45.240 Do you okay, how you can only choose one bucket? 343 00:15:45.519 --> 00:15:51.519 Huh? What genre is this movie? Thriller? Actually, let's do this. 344 00:15:51.679 --> 00:15:52.240 Let's do this. 345 00:15:53.480 --> 00:15:56.240 You can give it three categories. There's the primary one, 346 00:15:56.279 --> 00:15:58.440 the secondary in the tertiary. How would you describe it? 347 00:15:58.480 --> 00:15:59.320 Which three genres? 348 00:15:59.320 --> 00:16:01.919 Would you said? Thriller number one? Yeah? But now, if 349 00:16:01.960 --> 00:16:04.399 you're giving me, yeah, thriller slept But like, is action 350 00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:06.679 the same as thriller or is that a sub genre 351 00:16:06.720 --> 00:16:06.960 of that? 352 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:10.759 No? I think they're two separate movies. Actions and thrillers 353 00:16:10.759 --> 00:16:12.039 are are two different things. 354 00:16:12.120 --> 00:16:15.799 I'd put it thriller comedy action because they. 355 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:19.240 Thriller, I would actually put it action with See you 356 00:16:19.320 --> 00:16:23.759 said this too, that pizza movie is funnier, and I 357 00:16:23.759 --> 00:16:26.200 immediately was just a gast that you would say that. 358 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:29.039 But then I was thinking about it. 359 00:16:29.039 --> 00:16:30.559 I'm like, you know what, I think, Ben's right, I 360 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:33.679 think pizza, but that wasn't the idea of this time. 361 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:37.480 The comedic things were just put in for levity for 362 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:40.559 Levity's sake. There were several times in the last thirty 363 00:16:40.639 --> 00:16:44.840 minutes where I verbally was like, oh, you know, like 364 00:16:44.919 --> 00:16:47.559 one of those is like it was crazy. There are 365 00:16:47.559 --> 00:16:52.519 certain things. Twenty one Jump Street had that scene on 366 00:16:52.559 --> 00:16:56.559 the bridge where the bikers are chasing Jonah Hill and 367 00:16:56.639 --> 00:16:59.799 Chandon Tatum and you keep expecting this big explosion and 368 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:02.080 never happens, and then when it shouldn't happen. 369 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:04.559 Yeah, I don't know what makes it happen. It's something 370 00:17:04.599 --> 00:17:07.680 stupid chickens, yes exactly. 371 00:17:07.799 --> 00:17:11.200 Yeah, anyway, but there are several fake outs in this 372 00:17:11.279 --> 00:17:15.920 where I was like, oh, oh, yeah, you know, like 373 00:17:16.079 --> 00:17:18.920 so it was very good, and I do. 374 00:17:18.759 --> 00:17:21.640 Think that might be what's influencing my opinion as well, 375 00:17:21.799 --> 00:17:27.359 because we have both kind of professed our fandom of 376 00:17:27.519 --> 00:17:30.000 Jason Siegel, like the movies he's in, I'm like, that's 377 00:17:30.039 --> 00:17:32.279 a good movie. And he has kind of taken a 378 00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:35.799 back seat to Hollywood a lot lately, Like I really 379 00:17:35.839 --> 00:17:38.160 don't see him a lot around a lot. I wondered 380 00:17:38.200 --> 00:17:40.200 if he had been embroiled in a scandal, like he's 381 00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:42.160 been that absent that I had to look it up 382 00:17:42.359 --> 00:17:43.720 and I was like, did he do a thing that? 383 00:17:43.759 --> 00:17:45.680 So what did you find out when you look at 384 00:17:45.880 --> 00:17:47.799 not a damn thing? Like it almost makes me wonder 385 00:17:47.839 --> 00:17:50.599 if he's so normal and the rest of Hollywood is 386 00:17:50.640 --> 00:17:53.839 such a cesspool that like he made his money and 387 00:17:53.960 --> 00:17:55.720 is like, you know what, I'll do the projects I 388 00:17:55.799 --> 00:17:57.799 want to do, But I definitely don't want to be 389 00:17:57.839 --> 00:18:00.559 embroiled in all this nonsense for the rest of my life. 390 00:18:00.599 --> 00:18:03.519 Like I am absolutely super imposing things on what may 391 00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:05.759 be the case. But he's talented, he's funny, he wrote, 392 00:18:05.759 --> 00:18:08.279 he's good musically, Like he's got a lot of talents 393 00:18:08.319 --> 00:18:11.680 to bring people in. And like when you said, let's 394 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:14.359 see this movie, it's Jason Siegel and Tomorrow Weaving, Like 395 00:18:14.680 --> 00:18:17.680 I didn't even need to know the rest. I was like, yeah, yeah, totally. 396 00:18:17.880 --> 00:18:20.279 And this wasn't the kind of even the sad parts 397 00:18:20.319 --> 00:18:24.319 of Forgetting Sarah Marshall had some you talk about quoting movies. 398 00:18:24.359 --> 00:18:27.960 I still will quote Forgetting Sarah Marsha Triaking eighteen years later, 399 00:18:28.319 --> 00:18:31.759 like and this just it did. It wasn't supposed to 400 00:18:31.799 --> 00:18:33.519 be that. It's not like it was trying to be 401 00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:37.160