Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBS Boston Radio.
Speaker 2: Thanks very much, Madison. As we head into a Friday night,
Speaker 2: and we will take you to the weekend Tgif it's Friday,
Speaker 2: let me tell you it's been a long week here
Speaker 2: on Night Side. It seems like as long week as
Speaker 2: as the end of March. I'm ready for baseball, I'm
Speaker 2: ready for April. I'm ready for the marathon. I'm ready
Speaker 2: for all things sprying. Good evening everyone. My name is
Speaker 2: Dan Ray, and as you can tell, sort of the
Speaker 2: cabin fever of winter has gotten to me already. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna get out this weekend. I don't care what the
Speaker 2: weather is, I'm going to get outside this weekend. Rob
Speaker 2: Brooks is back in the control room. Robbie. I hope
Speaker 2: you get out and do something this weekend exciting and
Speaker 2: of course we want to always thanks thank Marita, our
Speaker 2: executive producer, who has helped line up for guests during
Speaker 2: this hour. Later on this evening, beginning at nine o'clock,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about how you can keep your
Speaker 2: energy bills as low as possible here in Massachusetts. It's
Speaker 2: a very interesting way that a lot of people are
Speaker 2: not aware of this option, and that is what we
Speaker 2: will make you much more aware of. So call your
Speaker 2: friends and tell them if they're complaining about their energy bills,
Speaker 2: let's do something about it. And we could do something
Speaker 2: about it tonight, at least show you how to do
Speaker 2: something about it. Also ten o'clock to talk about sleep solutions.
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people have problems with sleep.
Speaker 2: We have a brain health and neuroplasticity expert, doctor Patrick Porter.
Speaker 2: We had him on him a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 2: and I thought we would bring him back so he
Speaker 2: could take phone calls from all of you during the
Speaker 2: ten o'clock hour, and then, of course we do the
Speaker 2: twentieth hour. Not exactly what I'm going to do tonight.
Speaker 2: We may do a brushes with celebrity, we might do
Speaker 2: grind your Gears, or we might do something else. But
Speaker 2: right now I know what we're going to do, and
Speaker 2: we're going to talk with a gentleman by the name
Speaker 2: of Ryan Leek. He's an author and keynote speaker. He
Speaker 2: is also an executive coach. Ryan Leak, Welcome to Night's Side.
Speaker 2: How are you.
Speaker 3: I'm so fantastic, it's an honor to be with you. Tonight.
Speaker 2: Well, I thought you were going to tell me you
Speaker 2: so fantastic it's illegal, and I was going to call
Speaker 2: the police there. Uh, First of all, the topic tonight
Speaker 2: is how to work with complicated people. Now, let's define
Speaker 2: the word complicated a little more specifically. I think I
Speaker 2: know what you mean, but I want I'd like to
Speaker 2: get it complicated as kind of a broad adjective. If
Speaker 2: you get my drift, Ryan.
Speaker 3: It is a very broad adjective. The fact, we did
Speaker 3: a national research study on this subject and we asked
Speaker 3: our participants to define complicated in their own words, and
Speaker 3: the responses that we got were astounding. One person wrote,
Speaker 3: they are really dumb. I said, okay, I'm not sure
Speaker 3: you understand what we're doing. The next person wrote Leslie.
Speaker 3: I said, who's Leslie? And what does she do? The
Speaker 3: next person wrote Nate, And I said, Nate, my goodness. Now,
Speaker 3: if you're listening today and your name is Axe Leslier, Nate,
Speaker 3: I don't have anything against you, but somebody clearly does.
Speaker 3: But essentially, what we learned in our research is that
Speaker 3: complicated is in the eye of the beholder. So in
Speaker 3: other words, there could be somebody that's complicated to you
Speaker 3: that I find rather simple and vice versas. So I
Speaker 3: think one of the best things that we can do
Speaker 3: when we start having the complicated conversation is to realize
Speaker 3: that we all need to get in the complicated booth
Speaker 3: together because in somebody else's eyes, we are all complicated.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I get that, but look, the reality is
Speaker 2: that at most workplaces you have, as I believe, life
Speaker 2: is a bell curve. Okay, everything's a bell curve. Yeah,
Speaker 2: A three percent of us could could hit a golf ball.
Speaker 2: Pretty well, three percent of us could hit a golf
Speaker 2: ball if our life depended on it, and the other
Speaker 2: ninety four percent sometimes hit the golf ball, sometimes put
Speaker 2: it in the woods, sometimes look at or whatever, everything everything. Sure,
Speaker 2: So you have about three percent of the people where
Speaker 2: most people work who are just wonderful people. They help everybody.
Speaker 2: They go to people when you when there's a problem
Speaker 2: that's complicated that needs to be solved, and you go
Speaker 2: to those people I know exactly who the people are
Speaker 2: that I work with, who I rely upon. And then
Speaker 2: at the other end of the spectrum, you get three
Speaker 2: percent of the people who probably are there but really
Speaker 2: would be first somewhere else. And then you got the
Speaker 2: ninety four percent of us in the middle who are
Speaker 2: just trying to get through the day. Okay, so uh,
Speaker 2: let's talk about you believe in bell curves.
Speaker 3: I do believe in bell curves.
Speaker 2: But okay, we're on the same page. So that three
Speaker 2: percent who most people would say they kind of got
Speaker 2: an attitude, all right, and you got to work with
Speaker 2: that person. Okay, so they got an attitude. That's what
Speaker 2: we're talking I think that's what we're talking about. What's
Speaker 2: what advice do you have? Do you work around them?
Speaker 2: Do you kind of confront them and say, you know,
Speaker 2: I think you're having a bad day, I really want
Speaker 2: to get this project finished. How about your work with me?
Speaker 2: What's what's the best strategy to use in your opinion? Yeah,
Speaker 2: and assuming you're not a boss, I mean, obviously, if
Speaker 2: you're the boss of the place, you can walk in
Speaker 2: and even the most complicated people and they get real
Speaker 2: nice right away. Yo, oh nice to see you. Well boy,
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that's a great look. That's a great
Speaker 2: looking shirt you have on there. And of course when
Speaker 2: the boss leaves, they turn around say okay, go.
Speaker 3: Ahead, yeah, yeah, for sure. No, it's a great question.
Speaker 3: You know. The book is called how to Work with
Speaker 3: Complicated People Strategies for Effective Collaboration with nearly Anyone. And
Speaker 3: we say nearly because some people are certified crazy and
Speaker 3: you can't work with everybody. However, when you do, when
Speaker 3: you are, you know, face to face as somebody that
Speaker 3: has a particular attitude, which again, any one of us
Speaker 3: could end up in that three percent in somebody else's eyes.
Speaker 3: Like I rarely have met the person that said, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm toxic, Yeah totally, yeah I'm toxic, but somebody else
Speaker 3: thinks that they are. I've really met somebody that says, yeah,
Speaker 3: I bring an attitude to work every single day. It's like, no,
Speaker 3: most people can't see an attitude in the mirror. But
Speaker 3: when you are trying to deal with somebody that does
Speaker 3: have that, that isn't that three percent of that we
Speaker 3: could call toxic or extremely difficult. I think one of
Speaker 3: the things some of the strategies that people deploy, according
Speaker 3: to our research, is one they try to avoid them,
Speaker 3: which some people are good at that. But what we
Speaker 3: say in the book is you don't buy a book
Speaker 3: to avoid people. You don't need me to help you
Speaker 3: learn how to do that. And also I don't think
Speaker 3: it's a growing option. Here's a growing option. Here's where
Speaker 3: I think people can actually become a better colleague and
Speaker 3: a better person. It's when you try to move towards
Speaker 3: that person with understanding. That person that has an attitude
Speaker 3: has an attitude for a reason. Something happened in their lives,
Speaker 3: something happened in their job. I don't think they were
Speaker 3: born with that attitude. No, something is going on with them,
Speaker 3: and most people haven't paused long enough to consider what's
Speaker 3: They're behind the same story. You're a very people complicated.
Speaker 2: You're a very kind person. I don't know if you're
Speaker 2: a sports guy, but I'm a sports guy and.
Speaker 3: Telling I'm a very big sports guy.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, you know what the word cancer in the
Speaker 2: clubhouse means. You could be the best player on the team.
Speaker 2: But if you're a cancer in the clubhouse, and when
Speaker 2: you think about it, all you need on a baseball
Speaker 2: team which has twenty five guys is one guy at
Speaker 2: a twenty five, and that destroys the season. On a
Speaker 2: football team, so that one guy at a twenty five,
Speaker 2: that's that's the four percent of the bell curve. You know,
Speaker 2: no matter how blessed they are that they travel first class,
Speaker 2: they only stay at the Four Seasons and the Ritz,
Speaker 2: and everybody through their entire life has has patted them
Speaker 2: on the back and kissed other parts of their anatomy.
Speaker 2: They're still difficult to deal with. And you I can name.
Speaker 3: No professional at all.
Speaker 2: Okay, So and you can't deal with with those guys
Speaker 2: if you if you're in the clubhouse, unless you want
Speaker 2: to end up on the floor in the brawl and
Speaker 2: the same way it work. I don't know what I'm
Speaker 2: going to read your book, because I'm hoping. I think, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's fun. Give us the name
Speaker 2: of that book one more time? Is it just out oftentimes? Ryan,
Speaker 2: we have authors on and the book is like out yesterday.
Speaker 2: Is it just outs been out for a while.
Speaker 3: It comes out April fifteen, so early.
Speaker 2: Better people, Mark, Okay, give us the name.
Speaker 3: I know I want an example for you. Was that
Speaker 3: it's how to work with complicated people. I was I
Speaker 3: was going to say, I have an example for you.
Speaker 2: Go for it. I got about a minute left because
Speaker 2: I got to get to some other folks to go
Speaker 2: for it.
Speaker 3: Sounds good. Dennis Trotman, Huh, cancer in the clubhouse. But
Speaker 3: what would he have. He had Phil Jackson and he
Speaker 3: had Michael Jordan until all of a sudden the cancer
Speaker 3: becomes about. People asked that, and so that's that's the
Speaker 3: hope of the book is that we can be more
Speaker 3: kill Jackson and less all the other gms who gave
Speaker 3: up on the guy.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, he had a role, okay, but he's
Speaker 2: also the nut job who ended up over in North
Speaker 2: Korea trying to teach basketball to that goofball up there
Speaker 2: in the president of both Korea. I think I think
Speaker 2: that Johnson was pretty simple. I remember when I when
Speaker 2: he was on the cover of a Sports Illustrated To
Speaker 2: remember that picture of Michael Johnson and the from Sports Illustrated.
Speaker 2: My son at the time was probably about twelve. That
Speaker 2: was the last Sports Illustrated in my house. And I
Speaker 2: mean it's like and I and I had a cameraman,
Speaker 2: uh where I worked in television who was on the
Speaker 2: floor shooting an NBA game, and Jordan tried to kick
Speaker 2: the cameraman, you know, as he was sitting there. Wow, Yeah,
Speaker 2: not Jordan, I said, I meant to say Rodman. So
Speaker 2: I don't think Robin was a really nice guy. He
Speaker 2: may have matured. You know, that's a point, but you know, anyway,
Speaker 2: look appreciate that.
Speaker 3: That's my point is they were able to still work together.
Speaker 3: But nevertheless, books on how to work with complicated people.
Speaker 3: People can get it on Amazon and they can connect
Speaker 3: with me at ryanweek dot com.
Speaker 2: Sounds great, Ryan Leak Laak dot com. Ryan, thanks very much.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed the conversation. I really did. Thank you much.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Welcome, welcome back. We're going to talk with the Boston
Speaker 2: Marathon Men's Open division champion, Jack Folds. He won the
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy six Boston Marathon and right now he is
Speaker 2: working to raise money for the Claudia Adams Bart Program
Speaker 2: in Innovative Basic Cancer Research at the Dana Farber Cancer
Speaker 2: Institute in Boston. I don't believe you ever talked to
Speaker 2: Jack Folts. I'm looking forward to this conversation on the
Speaker 2: other side of the break. My name is Dan Ray.
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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back. Of course, we are now going
Speaker 2: into the final weekend of the merry month of March
Speaker 2: or the cold month of March, tough time for people
Speaker 2: at this time of year to get ready for the marathon.
Speaker 2: And we're going to talk with Jack Folts. He's the
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy six Boston Marathon Men's Open Division champion. Jack Folds.
Speaker 2: An honoror speak with you forty nine years ago, the
Speaker 2: big year, the year, the vi centennial. You're the King
Speaker 2: of Boston. How are you, Jack?
Speaker 4: I'm doing very well. Thanks Dan. I assume you're doing
Speaker 4: as well well also, and delighted to be here with
Speaker 4: you this evening. Thanks for having me join you, and
Speaker 4: as I represent our Dana Marathon Challenge team.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, we have one great mutual friend, the late great
Speaker 2: Bill Squires, and now doing for the marathon team what
Speaker 2: Bill Squires did for so many great runners, and I
Speaker 2: suspect at some point you probably spent some time with
Speaker 2: Bill working through your plans. You guys have a goal
Speaker 2: of raising eight and a half million dollars for the
Speaker 2: Claudia Adams Bar Program and innovative basic cancer research and
Speaker 2: Dana Farber. And the thing that was amazing about this
Speaker 2: to me is that you started doing this. I guess
Speaker 2: and was it? Nineteen ninety was the first year with
Speaker 2: a relatively small amount of runners, and you're going to
Speaker 2: have five hundred runners in the race raising money for
Speaker 2: Dana Farber, and you're going to be in the middle
Speaker 2: of I don't think you're running the race, but you
Speaker 2: have coached and helped a lot of these people figure
Speaker 2: out how to run the race.
Speaker 4: Well. As you've pointed out, we've grown significantly since our
Speaker 4: first year thirty thirty six years ago. Now we started
Speaker 4: what you're right, it was nineteen ninety We had nineteen
Speaker 4: runners running that year. It was actually inspired by a
Speaker 4: young friend of mine from Newton. His freshman year in college,
Speaker 4: he lost his best friend to brain cancer, and so
Speaker 4: he went over to the Jimmy Fund at Dana Farber
Speaker 4: Cancer Institute and said he wanted to do some volunteer
Speaker 4: work to carry on his friend's mission of raising awareness
Speaker 4: and maybe some funds. And he met an employee there
Speaker 4: who was a marathoner, and they decided to run the
Speaker 4: marathon the following year, which was nineteen eighty nine. And
Speaker 4: we'd stayed in touch since I coached the years earlier.
Speaker 4: So he asked me if i'd help him coach and
Speaker 4: get into the race, and so we did that. He
Speaker 4: raised a lot of money, had a very successful event,
Speaker 4: and it was to be a one and done. But
Speaker 4: trustees at Dana Farber, Delores Barr and Wayne Weaver, who
Speaker 4: had started the bar the Claudie Adams Bar Program several
Speaker 4: years earlier, I knew this employee at the Jimmy Fine
Speaker 4: who was the runner, and so they challenged him the
Speaker 4: next year, say get some of your friends. We'll give
Speaker 4: you a challenge grand of fifty thousand dollars. We'll match
Speaker 4: your dollar for dollars. So this other runner, Greg and
Speaker 4: I went to work and recruited nineteen runners. Back then,
Speaker 4: before the bombings in twenty thirteen, runners could run as
Speaker 4: what we call bandits. You know, they just they didn't
Speaker 4: have an offisial entry. They jump in the back, you
Speaker 4: know that, out of.
Speaker 2: The door, back of the pack. I thought about that.
Speaker 2: I never did it, but I thought about it not
Speaker 2: so long.
Speaker 4: I was gonna ask you if you ever read it
Speaker 4: as a bend.
Speaker 2: First stuff ever run was twenty miles one day, and
Speaker 2: after twenty miles and I was running flat along the
Speaker 2: river one it was a day after marathon, and I said,
Speaker 2: I have no idea how you guys can do twenty
Speaker 2: six with the hills all that. I mean, that's seriously well.
Speaker 4: Frank Short the Olympic champion from nineteen seventy two and
Speaker 4: so were medalists in seventy six and really helped, along
Speaker 4: with Bill Rogers, spawned the running boom back in the seventies.
Speaker 4: He once said, why didn't fidipities drop? I'm dead at
Speaker 4: twenty miles so the marathon would only be that distance
Speaker 4: rather than twenty six.
Speaker 2: Quick, real quick, funny story, Jack, If you knew me,
Speaker 2: I do not have the build of a runner, and
Speaker 2: I used to run a lot, but I could run.
Speaker 2: I could run a ten k uh uh in forty
Speaker 2: forty one minutes. That was my best, you know, which
Speaker 2: was over grand great. Well, yeah, not great. But I
Speaker 2: lived about two streets from Bill the Billy Rogers, and
Speaker 2: I would be out running uh. I was working a
Speaker 2: Channel four at night, so I'd run during the day
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, you know, Rogers would come
Speaker 2: up on me and I'd run with him for about
Speaker 2: a quarter of a mile. We'd just chat a little
Speaker 2: bit and I'll say, this isn't bad. And the Bill
Speaker 2: was here, well he got to pick it up, always
Speaker 2: like the road runner. But so you guys got I
Speaker 2: want to come back to this. You guys got five
Speaker 2: hundred runners that are going to anticipate, and you're gonna
Speaker 2: you've raised one hundred and thirty two million dollars so
Speaker 2: far and you're gonna add another eight and a half
Speaker 2: million to that this year. What an incredible legacy.
Speaker 4: It really is incredible the way it has grown, and
Speaker 4: you know, in each individual runner. In addition to us
Speaker 4: growing in size with more and more runners over the years,
Speaker 4: and we certainly have the Boston Athletic Association and you know,
Speaker 4: the Boston Marathon with Bank of America now who oversees
Speaker 4: the charity program grow exponentially as well. They're now one
Speaker 4: hundred and seventy nonprofit organizations charities who get entries from
Speaker 4: the marathon. We happen to be the largest, I guess
Speaker 4: because we've been around the longest. And the Jimmy Fund
Speaker 4: also sponsors the BAA Half Marathon or what's now called
Speaker 4: the Boston Half Marathon. But anyway, it has grown, so
Speaker 4: not only more runners, but the amount of money that
Speaker 4: each runner raises has grown exponentially as well. And you know,
Speaker 4: it used to be a couple thousand dollars and now
Speaker 4: you can't get on almost any of the charity teams
Speaker 4: for less than a ten thousand dollars fundraising commitment minimum.
Speaker 2: So I just got to ask you a question here
Speaker 2: because I noticed, I did my researcher and I looked
Speaker 2: at the training schedule that you have laid out. How
Speaker 2: many of these runners coach? You're in effect, it seems
Speaker 2: to be coaching five hundred runners. How many of them?
Speaker 2: How many of them never run a marathon before?
Speaker 4: About sixty percent of our team each year are running
Speaker 4: their first marathon and you.
Speaker 2: Lay out a schedule. You you're the guy that lays
Speaker 2: out the schedule, and you work with these people. That
Speaker 2: has to be a tremendous effort. Is it conceivable that
Speaker 2: someone can start I looked at your schedule there, you know,
Speaker 2: round Thanksgiving just walking and jogging maybe for thirty minutes
Speaker 2: in around Thanksgiving, and they can work up to actually
Speaker 2: running and finishing the Boston Marathon less than six months
Speaker 2: later on Patriots Day.
Speaker 4: Obviously they actually do. I mean it's a testament to
Speaker 4: their commitment to not just the marathon itself, but the
Speaker 4: fundraising as well. For Dana Farber, and I think it's
Speaker 4: a it applies to those on other charity teams as well.
Speaker 4: You know, they're so committed to the cause that they'll
Speaker 4: they'll do whatever is absolutely necessary. A number of years ago,
Speaker 4: I think it was I can't remember if it was
Speaker 4: twenty twelve. It was a really hot year, not quite
Speaker 4: as hot as it was in seventy six, my winning year,
Speaker 4: but it was hot, and the BAA offered all the runners,
Speaker 4: they said, if you, if you decide not to run
Speaker 4: this year, because it's going to be so hot and
Speaker 4: potentially dangerous, we'll let you run next year. And the
Speaker 4: people who are running for times the other the qualified runners,
Speaker 4: they're the only ones that bailed, you know, the charity runners,
Speaker 4: our Dana Farber runners in particular, they said, that's we
Speaker 4: want to run as well as we can, but we're
Speaker 4: here because we're promoting the cause and raising money for
Speaker 4: this important stuff. So we're going to run no matter what.
Speaker 4: So that was a kind of a testament to why
Speaker 4: they are there and why they're able to go from
Speaker 4: ground zero, as you said, around Thanksgiving Day to six
Speaker 4: months later or less being able to run the marathon.
Speaker 4: Of course, we I really coach them with some strategies
Speaker 4: about how to pace yourself properly and do the right
Speaker 4: training and add cross training, and I really get to
Speaker 4: know our injured runners because I spend more time helping
Speaker 4: them get through their injuries by doing alternative training methodologies.
Speaker 4: But you know, and then the run walk method of
Speaker 4: pacing as well enables a lot of these runners to
Speaker 4: go a lot further than otherwise could and we we
Speaker 4: you know, cultivate that as well and get them to
Speaker 4: embrace that concept. And and you know, ninety eight percent
Speaker 4: of our runners, maybe more finish the race. But I
Speaker 4: think that's consistent with the number of people who typically
Speaker 4: start the race each year as well.
Speaker 2: And I wish I a buch about thirty years ago,
Speaker 2: I would have loved to have tried this, Jackie. Still,
Speaker 2: Are you still in the Boston area A lot?
Speaker 4: I am, Yeah, I live. I live here in Lincoln
Speaker 4: and I moved up here in seventy nine. Actually, we
Speaker 4: mentioned Bill Rogers to go into business with Bill. His
Speaker 4: little company offered me a job. I said, I need
Speaker 4: a little skin in the game, but they wouldn't let
Speaker 4: me buy in. But I stayed and Bill and I
Speaker 4: we still real good friends. We get together very regularly
Speaker 4: now with some other running buddies from the old ages.
Speaker 4: And as a matter of fact, Amby Burflood, who won
Speaker 4: in sixty eight and as the runner World editor for
Speaker 4: many many years. He just recently wrote an article, actually
Speaker 4: published it earlier this week in a publication, an online
Speaker 4: publication called Marathon Guide, and the title of his article
Speaker 4: was how not to run the Boston Marathon. He interviewed
Speaker 4: me and we did a rehash of an article he
Speaker 4: wrote using me last year. And so I encourage your
Speaker 4: listeners to the rinns, especially to go on find out
Speaker 4: on Marathon Guide, and it's a little tongue in cheek.
Speaker 4: It's really funny. It's how he ran it last year
Speaker 4: and how he plans to change his strategy again this
Speaker 4: year so that it's a much more pleasurable experience.
Speaker 2: Well, Jack Bolts, thank you so much for what you've
Speaker 2: done for this community. Thanks for relocating and becoming. I
Speaker 2: think I can call you a greater Boston native at
Speaker 2: this point, since you've been here since nine I think.
Speaker 3: I've been here a lot.
Speaker 4: They call me Camaina now.
Speaker 2: Just about so great, great to chat with you. Thanks
Speaker 2: so much for coming on the show. And let's hope
Speaker 2: for good weather, perfect weather for all the runners, particularly
Speaker 2: the five hundred folks who who you're going to steer
Speaker 2: across the line. Thanks again, Jack, look forward to meeting
Speaker 2: you someday.
Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Dan, And likewise, I was for
Speaker 4: it to mean, let's make it happen this year.
Speaker 2: When you see when you see Rogers, sometimes tell him
Speaker 2: I said, hello, Okay, thanks so much.
Speaker 3: I definitely will.
Speaker 4: He'll probably remember that incident of you guys crossing paths
Speaker 4: out and Sherburn.
Speaker 2: No, no, we did it a lot, you know, a
Speaker 2: couple of times a month. You know, all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: I'm running my seven minute or eight seven minutes, seven
Speaker 2: and a half minute miles, and he's clicking out, you know, fives,
Speaker 2: and it became kind of almost pardon the punt, a
Speaker 2: running joke. Thanks Jack, Well.
Speaker 4: Bill's very collegial, and I have no doubt that he
Speaker 4: would slow down and chit chat with with you and
Speaker 4: a lot of the other runners out in the area.
Speaker 2: So people love him, you bet, Thanks Jack, Jack Folds,
Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen. Boston Marathon coming up. Let's root all
Speaker 2: those runners who are running for the Jimmy Fund the
Speaker 2: Dana Farber Cancer Institute in Boston. Cannot take up a
Speaker 2: greater cause. When we get back right after the news,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about a different sort of motorsport,
Speaker 2: if you will. Two wheel racers coming up to Gillette Stadium.
Speaker 2: They're not running, but they're moving pretty quickly. We'll be
Speaker 2: back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1: It's Night Side, Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: We're coming up, not this Saturday, not tomorrow, but a
Speaker 2: week from tomorrow out at Gillette Stadium. UH, the world's
Speaker 2: best two wheel racers will converge on Foxborough for an
Speaker 2: action packed race. Joining me now is one of those racers,
Speaker 2: Tristan Lane, who's a pretty young guy. Hey Tristan, you
Speaker 2: look to me like you're probably in your early twenties
Speaker 2: at most. How are you tonight? Dan?
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me on. Yeah, good call on twenty
Speaker 5: seven And yeah, I consider that.
Speaker 2: The early I considered that anything in the twenties, early twenties.
Speaker 2: But so you're what's called a four fifty SX class racer.
Speaker 2: Let me be real honest with you. I know very
Speaker 2: little about motocross, okay, which I think is this motocross
Speaker 2: we're talking about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so a motocross you could call it that, But
Speaker 5: this is this discipline in particular is supercross. So an
Speaker 5: easy way to look at it is supercross is the
Speaker 5: indoor racing and stadiums. Motocross is outside, you know, Unadilla,
Speaker 5: New York, the good old fashioned pro motocross series. But yeah,
Speaker 5: this is going to be supercross that we're talking.
Speaker 2: Okay, So how did you get into this sport? Is
Speaker 2: this something that you know? I talked to pro athletes frequently,
Speaker 2: and you know, if they're a hockey player, they say, oh,
Speaker 2: my my parents made me start skating when I was
Speaker 2: two and a few they were baseball player. They had
Speaker 2: a baseball bat in their hand when they were two
Speaker 2: or three. When did you start this? I kind of imagine, well,
Speaker 2: maybe maybe you had a tricycle and you were doing
Speaker 2: his two or something. I don't know.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, yeah, so I'll try to keep it somewhat brief,
Speaker 5: but long winded. Answer short. I started riding bicycles. I
Speaker 5: played a bunch of traditional sports, right. I love baseball, football,
Speaker 5: all that stuff, basketball as well, but you know, I
Speaker 5: got really I'm an adrenaline junkie at heart. And you know,
Speaker 5: my dad didn't come from racing dirt bikes. He never
Speaker 5: did that growing up. But I begged and begged for
Speaker 5: a motorcycle, and all I wanted was just to ride
Speaker 5: a dirt bike or a four wheeler. And I got
Speaker 5: a full hiller first, and then beg for a dirt bike.
Speaker 5: And on Christmas when I was eight years old, I
Speaker 5: got my first dirt bike, and no joke, Dan from
Speaker 5: then on. I'm twenty seven now, so it was like
Speaker 5: nineteen years later. Still fully at it. It's an obsession,
Speaker 5: and once it gets in your blood, it's really hard
Speaker 5: to get out. But I just truly love it and
Speaker 5: racing is just another form of it. So I never
Speaker 5: had aspirations of being a professional and doing it for
Speaker 5: a living. I just wanted to ride because I loved it. It
Speaker 5: was freedom for me. It was you know, I guess
Speaker 5: it would be like getting a you know, getting a
Speaker 5: license and be able to drive a car, your wheels
Speaker 5: under you and old on a motorcycle.
Speaker 3: Right, I was. I was free.
Speaker 5: So I still love that that same feeling today.
Speaker 2: So how did you become a professional in this sport?
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're if you're kid playing Little League
Speaker 2: and you're good, you know someone's gonna say, hey, you
Speaker 2: gonna go with one travel team and next thing you're
Speaker 2: in high school and maybe you get a college scholarship,
Speaker 2: you get drafted. I know how it works in pro baseball?
Speaker 2: How does it work in in your in your sport?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 5: So obviously being that, you know when you go to school,
Speaker 5: it's not like you have a team of motocross racing, right,
Speaker 5: I got was different that way, So it's kind of
Speaker 5: I understand. It is a very interesting path. But I
Speaker 5: guess the best way to describe it is you start
Speaker 5: as an amateur, and we started locally, and I didn't
Speaker 5: even know that, you know, motocross racing existed. I knew
Speaker 5: nothing about it. So we totally learned from the grassroots,
Speaker 5: and you know, talking to people word of mouth, Hey,
Speaker 5: you should enter your son. They'd be telling my father
Speaker 5: at this local race in Florida where I grew up,
Speaker 5: and then I'd race there, and then oh, there's another
Speaker 5: race here, and then before long you're chasing this amateur circuit.
Speaker 5: And believe it or not, there is a whole world
Speaker 5: of amateur motocross racing out there. The highest level is
Speaker 5: a race in Loretta lynns that it's in Tennessee actually,
Speaker 5: but people from literally all across the world come and
Speaker 5: compete against the best riders as an amateur, and it's
Speaker 5: almost like scouting for the professional rink. So if you
Speaker 5: do good there, it gives you a shot to be
Speaker 5: on the map. But for me, you still have to
Speaker 5: qualify to be a professional by earning a professional license,
Speaker 5: and to do that you have to accumulate a series
Speaker 5: of points by hitting these targeted races that will pay
Speaker 5: these points out. So I paid my dues as an amateur.
Speaker 5: I raced my way up and then you know, once
Speaker 5: I earn enough points, I got my license. You know, hey,
Speaker 5: you have an opportunity to go and attempt to qualify
Speaker 5: at a professional race and make the progate. So kind
Speaker 5: of like the PGA Tour, you have to be you know,
Speaker 5: make the cut to even play a single weekend. In
Speaker 5: our sport, what's intriguing is, yeah, there's not a team
Speaker 5: where it's like, oh, you're you're playing and you're racing
Speaker 5: no matter what. We have to qualify in Foxborough to
Speaker 5: even be able to, you know, to go and race
Speaker 5: every single weekend. So a lot of pressure on the
Speaker 5: line and it just kind of adds the excitement.
Speaker 2: Okay, so real, real, quick question. I believe I noticed
Speaker 2: there's there's race this week in Seattle. Are you at
Speaker 2: that race or no?
Speaker 5: I am yes, sir.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're racing in Seattle this weekend indoors. I
Speaker 2: assume you're one of the ballparks out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So we're at lumen Field and believe or not, it
Speaker 5: is an outdoor stadium. So okay, we are going to
Speaker 5: be getting some rain currently it's dry, but expect exactly right, right, Yeah,
Speaker 5: we know better. This is an awesome stop. But obviously
Speaker 5: going to Foxboro, playing racing at Gillette rather, it's such
Speaker 5: an honor and I look forward to it. So, yes,
Speaker 5: I'm excited for this weekend and I'm hoping to build
Speaker 5: some steam and be ready for an awesome Right.
Speaker 2: Now, have you already qualified for this race? Or do
Speaker 2: you have to come to Foxboro and on Thursday or Friday?
Speaker 2: You know, like for example when you talk pro golf,
Speaker 2: in order to make the cut, you might be in
Speaker 2: the tournament Thursday and Friday, but you've got to make
Speaker 2: the cut to keep playing Saturday Sunday. Is that the
Speaker 2: way it works with you? Or have you already qualified
Speaker 2: to Will people be able to go and watch you
Speaker 2: race on Saturday?
Speaker 5: That's a great question.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So our sport is all Saturday, so we do everything
Speaker 5: on Saturday, all jam pack. We have set a series
Speaker 5: of qualifying sessions and it's off of lap time. So
Speaker 5: in our sport, we're not trying to do tricks and
Speaker 5: you know, go really high in the air, which we do.
Speaker 5: We do go high in the air, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 5: but we're racing right. It's as fast as you can
Speaker 5: go around a track for a lap time, and that
Speaker 5: is how you qualify. So they take the top forty,
Speaker 5: but they narrow it down from probably eighty riders, so
Speaker 5: it's the eighty riders try and qualify. They only will
Speaker 5: take top forty into the night program that actually will
Speaker 5: race on TV, and then from there they narrow it
Speaker 5: down again to the top twenty two of the best
Speaker 5: riders on the planet. And that is our main event,
Speaker 5: our finals. So think like the Tom Brady's, you know,
Speaker 5: the Lebron James, the best athletes in our sport will
Speaker 5: be in that finals. So it's pretty exciting.
Speaker 2: Well, the other thing is you're going to be racing
Speaker 2: at Julette and I'm sure you're going to qualify, And
Speaker 2: I want to jink you, but I can tell you
Speaker 2: got a lot of confidence. And I watch some of
Speaker 2: you video. I think you'll be just fine. But you're
Speaker 2: going to be playing in effect inside the stadium the
Speaker 2: Tom Brady built. I mean they talk about Yankee Stadium,
Speaker 2: the house that roof built, well, Chillet's Stadium that is
Speaker 2: that was Tom Brady's playground for about twenty years in
Speaker 2: the six six Super Bowl Championships. So you're going to
Speaker 2: be on hollow ground and I'm sure you're going to
Speaker 2: do great. How can people get tickets? What's the easiest way?
Speaker 5: Well, first and foremost, thank you, I appreciate it. I'm
Speaker 5: super excited about it. But for tickets, go to Supercross
Speaker 5: Live dot com. You can get them there. And something
Speaker 5: exciting is our sport has so much access to the athletes.
Speaker 5: So if anyone out there is listening to this, if
Speaker 5: you have kids or want to come and meet us,
Speaker 5: meet me, come to the FanFest from twelve o'clock to
Speaker 5: six pm. We'll have a fan fest open where we
Speaker 5: are going to be signing, autographed getting away posters, a
Speaker 5: lot of fun stuff our sport. I'm biased, of course
Speaker 5: being one of the racers, but we really do a
Speaker 5: great sell that puts on Supercross. They do Disney on
Speaker 5: ice right, they're promoters, they do great, great job. The
Speaker 5: opening ceremonies is going to start at six point thirty
Speaker 5: and something really cool as we have fireworks and the
Speaker 5: riders will come out of the opening ceremonies and there's
Speaker 5: going to be just so much cool stuff happening. So
Speaker 5: if anyone hasn't been to a Supercross before, like I said,
Speaker 5: I'm biased, but seriously, give it a shot. I guarantee
Speaker 5: you will want to come back. And once you small
Speaker 5: the race feel and hear the engines, it's it's really exciting,
Speaker 5: like I said to nineteen years for me and I'm
Speaker 5: fully addicted. I can't get away from it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Tristan, I think you're a great spokesperson,
Speaker 2: spokes guy for the sport, and I think you hit
Speaker 2: it really right on the nail on the head and
Speaker 2: that you know a lot of you know, moms and
Speaker 2: dads take their sons and daughters to a basketball game
Speaker 2: or a baseball game or football or whatever, and if
Speaker 2: they get a chance to just shake an athlete's hand
Speaker 2: or get an autograph, that that child can become a
Speaker 2: fan for life. And I think that a lot of
Speaker 2: the Major League sports and all of that have kind
Speaker 2: of lost that contact with the fan. And you you
Speaker 2: sound like a guy that your enthusiasm is infectious. And
Speaker 2: I hope that that you have great success here and
Speaker 2: I'm going to be keeping an eye out for those
Speaker 2: for those standings, and I'm become a fan. So I'm
Speaker 2: a fan of Tristan Lane, and I hope all my
Speaker 2: listeners should go there will be a fan as well. Okay,
Speaker 2: thanks so much, my friend.
Speaker 5: Of course, thank you for having me. Me's a lot.
Speaker 2: You're very welcome. And those tickets are available. You can
Speaker 2: get them at Jillette Stadium next Saturday, April the fifth.
Speaker 2: We have one more guest coming up, and this one
Speaker 2: is a freebee. Okay, now I'm telling you your pet.
Speaker 2: We'll be able to meet and get a picture with
Speaker 2: the Easter Bunny, the real Easter Bunny, this weekend right
Speaker 2: here in Massachusetts, and we're going to tell you and
Speaker 2: also you can bring your kids along too. I think
Speaker 2: that the Easter Bunny will also pose for pictures with
Speaker 2: your kids. We've got to have a little bit of
Speaker 2: fun with this one. I'm going to talk with Lauren
Speaker 2: Dallas of She's a Sigmon Mall team member and she's
Speaker 2: a director of marketing and business development at Burlington Mall.
Speaker 2: Will get all the information for you. It's a little
Speaker 2: rainy weekend here in Massachusetts or New England this weekend.
Speaker 2: This is something for you to do, so stay with us.
Speaker 2: And right after that, at nine o'clock, we're gonna try
Speaker 2: to teach you how to save some money on your
Speaker 2: electric and gas bills here in New England. Okay, back
Speaker 2: on Nightside.
Speaker 1: Right after this, It's Nightside with Dan Ray on Boston's
Speaker 1: news Radio.
Speaker 2: I want to welcome Lauren Dallas. She is a Simon
Speaker 2: Mall team member, Director of Marketing and Business Development at
Speaker 2: Burlington Mall. Lauren, welcome to Nightside. How are you?
Speaker 3: I'm great.
Speaker 6: How are you tonight?
Speaker 2: I'm doing great. Well, you must be really excited. You
Speaker 2: got the Easter Bunny available this weekend for people to
Speaker 2: come to the mall and get their picture taken with
Speaker 2: the Easter Bunny. First of all, let mean let's clarify
Speaker 2: this is this the one true Easter Bunny or is
Speaker 2: this one of the Easter Bunny helpers?
Speaker 6: This is the Easter Bunny he does because we around
Speaker 6: too different malls. Yeah, he's our own little Easter Bunny
Speaker 6: and he's pretty amazing. So yeah, this weekend is he's
Speaker 6: there for the Easter season. But this weekend is our
Speaker 6: pet photo with the Easter Bunny night.
Speaker 2: Now, how tall is the Easter How tall is is this?
Speaker 1: Is?
Speaker 2: This is the Easter Bunny. Actually, I've seen photographs, but
Speaker 2: I've never met the Easter Bunny in person.
Speaker 6: He's usually around five foot seven, I'd say with the years,
Speaker 6: probably six seven or so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, you know what, you take every extra inch
Speaker 2: you can. Okay, it's a simple. So he's an imposing figure.
Speaker 2: And how does this work? Is there a specific time?
Speaker 2: Is he spending the entire day at the Burlington Baltimore?
Speaker 2: Give us the specifics here, because I'm sure a lot
Speaker 2: of parents would like to take the opportunity. Not only
Speaker 2: I know that this is for pet photos with the bunny.
Speaker 2: Can you sneak a kid in there every once in
Speaker 2: a while or is that not permitted?
Speaker 6: As absolutely know it's encouraged. Actually, the event takes place. Yeah,
Speaker 6: the event takes place on Sunday, March thirtieth, and it
Speaker 6: goes from six thirty to eight thirty. We have it
Speaker 6: at a few of our different Simon malls in the area,
Speaker 6: holding at.
Speaker 2: Why don't mean to interrupt you. We're talking Burlington Mall
Speaker 2: and six thirty to eight thirty. I'm hoping that's night not.
Speaker 6: Morning, right, Yes, it's after the mall closes.
Speaker 5: So the mall closes at six.
Speaker 6: On Sunday and the event starts at six thirty.
Speaker 2: Oh oh, so this is this is really a very
Speaker 2: nice event. So now do you have to like get
Speaker 2: your name on a special list to meet the Easter Bundy.
Speaker 2: Is it this? I assume you must do some sort
Speaker 2: of security clearance, like if you're going to meet the
Speaker 2: president or something like that. I don't know if the
Speaker 2: lorises to the level of secret service. But what do
Speaker 2: you have to do? Do you have to write it
Speaker 2: or do you just show up? How does that work?
Speaker 6: You can make a reservation on our website, but you
Speaker 6: can also just show up between the event times. You know,
Speaker 6: there's usually plenty of room for everybody. Everybody to get
Speaker 6: a chance to meet the Easter Bunny.
Speaker 2: Oh that's that's fabulous. And whereabouts in the mall? Is
Speaker 2: that what? I always get intimidated by malls because when
Speaker 2: someone says to me, I don't know, will you probably
Speaker 2: know your way around malls. But if someone says to me,
Speaker 2: you don't meet me on Newberry Street at the corner
Speaker 2: of you know, Newberry Street and Darkness. There's only four
Speaker 2: corners there, so you pretty much can figure out which one.
Speaker 2: But when someone says to me, meet me at the mall,
Speaker 2: it's like I get a little shaky because it's like, well,
Speaker 2: whereabouts in the mall?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of stores in the mall.
Speaker 2: Which store am I supposed to meet you in front of? Where? Where? We?
Speaker 2: Where is it? So? How do you? How does this work?
Speaker 2: I just want to make sure no one gets lost
Speaker 2: and locked up in the mall for the weekend.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, no.
Speaker 6: The best entrance to use would be the entrance by
Speaker 6: lunch Crafters. So that's between the Cheesecake Factory and Nordstrom.
Speaker 6: Other people might know it is, you know, in front
Speaker 6: of Sephora. That's a pretty popular store in that area.
Speaker 2: Okay, So Ford, is that what you said? Because that's
Speaker 2: s C P H O R A. I believe, correct, correct, good, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm pretty good at spelling. So so so the Easter
Speaker 2: Bundy's there? Uh and I'm more, I am much more.
Speaker 2: I've never met the Easter Bunny. That's why I'm kind
Speaker 2: of intimidated by this conversation. Uh I have Well, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm going to try. I have met Sanda. Okay. Matter
Speaker 2: of fact, I met Santa many many years ago when
Speaker 2: I was a lot younger, but never had a chance
Speaker 2: to meet the Easter Bundy in person. I mean you know,
Speaker 2: I mean he's visited my home when I was a kid,
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong. And and and I just wanted
Speaker 2: to does he kind of sit there in a chair
Speaker 2: like Santa? Does he have any sort of an assistant
Speaker 2: or is it all pretty informal? And it's kind of
Speaker 2: like a like a cock not a cocktail party, but
Speaker 2: like a party where people are walking around? How does
Speaker 2: that work? What should people?
Speaker 6: He does? He does sit there in a chair. Typically
Speaker 6: we have, you know, the pets come in with their families.
Speaker 6: And when I tell you pets, we have dogs, cats,
Speaker 6: I've seen pigs, a little bit of everything, and they
Speaker 6: will wait in line to get their photo taken. Now,
Speaker 6: sometimes the pets corporate, sometimes they take a little bit
Speaker 6: of coaxing.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you this. I would be intimidated as
Speaker 2: an adult because I've never met him before. Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: not intimidated by Santa, because I met him several times
Speaker 2: in several circumstances. But the Easter Bunny, I would be
Speaker 2: intimidated by that. So you had actually someone's brought their pig,
Speaker 2: like a pot belly pig or something like that.
Speaker 6: Yes, a baby pig named Bart and he was absolutely
Speaker 6: lovely and he got along great with the Easter bunny.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, again, they're all in the animal kingdom.
Speaker 2: That's that's the thing that that I think makes it
Speaker 2: works so well. So primarily dogs, cats, birds as well.
Speaker 2: I assume avian creatures are allowed.
Speaker 6: We've seen avian creatures as long as as long as
Speaker 6: they're you know, well enough trained that they can be
Speaker 6: you know, they're not taking off or anything like that.
Speaker 6: But yeah, we've seen why for sure.
Speaker 2: You don't want, like a vulture, someone to bring a
Speaker 2: vulture in something. You know, in terms of a.
Speaker 6: Bird there friendly.
Speaker 2: You know, the vultures are not friendly as a rule,
Speaker 2: trust me on that, Okay, I said, I think that's
Speaker 2: that's one of those rules of life that you know
Speaker 2: that I've always I've always lived by when I when
Speaker 2: I see a vulture, I'm out of there. It's as
Speaker 2: simple as that. Okay, any other bird I'm fine with, okay,
Speaker 2: but vultures that I draw the line. I draw the line.
Speaker 2: So this is eight, This is six thirty to eight
Speaker 2: thirty on Sunday evening. Yep, Okay, just want to make
Speaker 2: sure because I wasn't sure when you said six thirty eight,
Speaker 2: I wasn't sure if the easter Buddy was an early
Speaker 2: Iarly Riser or whatever. Six thirty eight thirty Burlington Mall.
Speaker 2: I think everybody knows where the Burlington Mall is, right
Speaker 2: off of one twenty eight and Ruth three in Burlington,
Speaker 2: and it sounds like it's happy. It's going to be
Speaker 2: a great time if I show up. If I show
Speaker 2: up there, I certainly will look for you, but I
Speaker 2: gotta be I think i'd be a little nervous, to
Speaker 2: be honest with you, and so it's going to be
Speaker 2: a game time decision for me. If you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Okay, well, I'll be there and I'd be happy to
Speaker 6: make an introduction for you.
Speaker 2: That would make it a lot easier. Lauren, and I
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Laura, thanks very much. You're a great sport.
Speaker 2: I really appreciate. I hope everybody understands this is absolutely
Speaker 2: on the level. This is the actual Easter. Buddy will
Speaker 2: be at Burlington mal six thirty to eight thirty on
Speaker 2: Sunday night, this Sunday night, March thirtieth. Perfect, perfect, perfect, perfect,
Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Lauren. I enjoyed it. I enjoy chatting
Speaker 2: with you. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: You're very welcome and say do be faf I don't
Speaker 2: get you.
Speaker 5: We say hi to the easter money for me, I
Speaker 5: absolutely will put in a good word.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when I was a kid, you know the best
Speaker 2: things he used to bring me for Easter be some candies,
Speaker 2: chocolate candies and baseball cards. So you know, perfect, it's
Speaker 2: a perfect Easter. You know it's not overly well it's
Speaker 2: not overwhelming, but it's it's just perfect. So he always
Speaker 2: knew what I wanted. Thank you, Lauren, we'll talk again,
Speaker 2: I hope. Thank you very much. Good night. When we
Speaker 2: get back, we're going to try to save you some
Speaker 2: money on your energy bills here in Massachusetts. And just
Speaker 2: in the nick of time, my name's Dan Ray. This
Speaker 2: is night Side. Rob Brooks is not alongside. He's back
Speaker 2: at the big Broadcast Center, uh and where he's going
Speaker 2: to open up those phone lines right after the news
Speaker 2: so you can jump on and we'll answer whatever questions
Speaker 2: you have.