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at Reason dot com. Last week, President Donald Trump's administration
turned its chainsaws on the Department of Energy, cutting, canceling,
or pausing a handful of onerous regulations set to hobble
households and commercial or sorry, set to hobble household and
commercial appliances. All right, So there was a bunch of
regulations that were fixing to come on the books, and
they cut them. Anybody who has coughed up a small
fortune for a barely functional appliance knows the stakes. And
I can tell you I have seen this. It is
it's offensive. It is offensive. The amount of money that
is charged for appliances with a life span of eight
years offensive. I saw a video. The other day. Some
guy had a a freezer and set up a He
pulled the door, He pulled the front door off of
the freezer. He stuck a thermometer in the thing. And
this freezer was like a fifty or sixty year old freezer. Okay,
he has the freezer outside. I want to say you
was in Tennessee. He sets the freezer outside, The door
is off of the freezer. He hangs a thermometer and
trains a camera on the thermometer in the freezer, and
then run and then records NonStop for the entire summer
last year, and then put it all together in like
a super sped up time lapse deal. That freezer never
stopped working and the ice inside of it never melted.
It didn't stop running. I mean it was running non stop,
full bore, constant. He's like, they don't make these like
this anymore. No, I don't know. Maybe it was a
deep bake, cheap baker whatever, fake I don't know, maybe
it was I don't know. I just I get the sense,
based on my own experience with various appliances, that they
just don't build them like they used to. You know,
I had an old washer and dryer that was in
my very first house that I bought in two thousand
and five. The washer and dryer that came with the place.
I think we're manufactured. I think it was like a
week after the invention of electricity. I think that's when
these things were built. And aside from having to replace
one of the bands, never had a problem with it,
never had a problem with them. Refrigerators, dishwasher, Oh my gosh,
do not even get me started. Okay, well, no, we're
already started on the dishwashers. We have a dishwasher came
with our house, supposedly brand new though it was it
was brand new, and it's I will tell you it
is a whirlpool. And that thing trips our circuit breaker
about once a week. It trips the circuit breaker. Coffee
pot and refrigerator trips a circuit breaker. Now maybe that's
the circuit breakers because they implemented the stupid new gcis
or whatever the ground faults or whatever. It's not it's
not ground fault, hey h whatever, But like these it
trips these these things. It's like, oh my gosh, it's gonna,
you know, burn the whole house down kind of thing.
But the amount of money for like, and I'm the guy,
like the last new fridge or the previous new fridge
that we bought. Because when we Christy and I bought
our house down to the Steel Creek part of Charlotte.
This was two thousand and nine, I think, and we
bought our house, we needed a fridge. And I saw
one in the parking lot at home Depot, you know,
they had it out front. They were trying to sell it.
So I walk up, I look at it, and the
thing was and this is said, this is fifteen years ago,
and the thing was reduced, you know, and it had
a dent in the bottom of it, and I was like, eh,
it's like forty percent off or something. I was like, yeah,
still too expensive because it was like one thousand dollars. Like,
I'm not spending one thousand dollars on a refrigerator. I
don't need it to do all of this stuff. A
week later, we go to home Depot. The fridge is
now moved to the little vestibule area you know between
the sliding doors, and we go in there. It's still there,
and now it's marked down sixty percent. So now I'm
looking at it like hmm. This is now getting down
into my price point, you know. And a guy comes
out and he's like, hey, you interested in this fridge.
I was like I might be. I said, I see
it's got a dent down there. He's like, I'll tell
you what, I'll knock another thirty percent off. I'm like, sold,
I will buy that fridge for that kind of price.
And then it leaked a little bit. But whatever, like
the point was, I like, it was way cheaper then.
I think it was like an a fifteen hundred dollars
fridge and we got it for like five hundred or
four hundred something like that. But when we went to
look at refrigerators for the house that we're in now,
we were shocked at the amount of money. And here's
the thing, Like, I don't need a fridge to do
all of this stuff. I don't need it to be
connected to my WiFi. Why would you need that? Why
do you need Wi Fi? Oh so I can look
in and see if I need something when I'm at
the grocery store. Yeah, that's what lists are for. You
write a list and you put it on the fridge
and then you take the list with you or you
have your wife, send you a picture of it. If
you're already at the store, like, that's what you do.
And here's the thing. If you forget to buy something,
then yeah, you're gonna have to go buy it again.
Go to the store again and buy it. Then that's
okay too. You don't need Wi Fi in your fridge.
This author at Reason says my thirty year old Bosh
dishwasher was a marvel. This is the thirty year old
one efficient precise scouring dishes in forty five minutes like
a Prussian drilling drill sergeant on a deadline. Last month
it died. I had to drop eight hundred dollars on
a sleek successor, expecting progress. Instead I got a two
hour grease smearing farce that leaves forks like my optimism
caked in the grime of dashed hopes, a victim of
the Department of Energies regulatory straight jacket. That's the thing too.
The dishwasher we have at our house now is a
quote high efficiency one and it runs for three hours.
Three hours. I thought it was a mistake. I was like, oh,
surely that's like a certain that's like a sanitization cycle
or a pots and pans cycle or or like a
double cycle, like there's why would it run three hours?
That doesn't seem high or efficiency, well, does seem like
a high time count. Why would you do that? And
then this stuff comes out and it's like this some
of the stuff doesn't even look like it's been cleaned.
Like you have to set everything up exactly correct, and
you're like, oh, you don't have to wash the dishes.
It has a sensor. There's a sensor that will know
how dirty your dishes are. Like, just wash them the
same way every time, because I'm not like, I'm not
like super cleaning the dishes before they go in the dishwasher,
nor am I just leaving them all caked on with
all the crud. It's always the same kind of level
of stuff on the dishes I put in there. I
don't need a sensor in there. I couldn't buy a
dishwasher though without one of these fancy sensors. It's just
something else that breaks. Don't even get me started on
the dryer. Okay, I am started on the dryer. The
dryer has been sending us error messages like every six
months telling us that there's a clog in the line
and it still runs like, no, we don't have pets, right,
it's just two of us. We're not drying that much
stuff that it should be. And what's gone wrong is
this is a Samsung and it's running all of the
lint traps. It's all of the lint is bypassing the
stupid lint trap. And I've had them out to the
house and now they're wanting to charge us like two
hundred dollars service calls each time. I'm like, well, after
like three calls, I could just buy another dryer. And
That's what I'm going to be doing. And I'm going
to be looking at all the yard sales for all
of the nineteen seventies era models because I have lost
confidence in appliance makers. Well but maybe things will get
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jump over and talk to Earl. Hello, Earl, Hello, how
you doing good?
Speaker 2: What's going on on this manufacturing job? If they bring
all these jobs back, who's gonna work on me? Let
me gave a little history. I used to work in
the mid nineties that one of the top auto manufacturers
in the United States, and back then there was waitlists
of thousands of people wanting to work in that manufacturing
phrase because the pay was very good, the bid at
this was great in everything. Now said today we can't
find they can't find people to work in the manufacturing jobs.
Young people do not want to do that. They actually
was at a position a few years ago. They were
calling back older try reads to come and see if
they could work on the line. And the pay is
very good, but they can't get young people. They don't
want that. They can get more money. And I and
working in TikTok, they're working on an assembly line.
Speaker 1: Well, this is the question I was asking in the
last hour, is you've got right now? The stat is
that there's half a million unfilled manufacturing jobs per month
in America. So half a million unfilled jobs. And this
is and I've heard this in like the auto tech
you know, for you know, people working in the in
the garages like and those are skilled labor and you
can make good money doing that work. And they have
problems filling those those jobs. So if the idea with
the tariff strategy is to you know, ignite this manufacturing
renaissance in America, then do Americans actually will they even
work those jobs? If you create them here.
Speaker 2: No, this company they were charged me. They will hard.
These people making eighty grand a year, these eighteen, nineteen,
twenty twenty year olds, they don't want that. They don't
want to do that kind of work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's because it's difficult work. And they've been
told by their older generations that, you know, I want
a better life for you, so you're going to go
to college. I heard it, you know, my you know,
my nieces and nephews have heard it from their parents.
Like that's that's always been this sort of narrative that's
been advanced because that was how you got out of
a lot of the really backbreaking types of work in
years and decades ago. And so now the manufacturing jobs
are Yeah, they're difficult in their taxing physically, but I
don't believe they're probably a lot of them. Some of
them will be obviously, like your oil riggers and stuff
like that, that's going to be very difficult work. But
but there's a lot of other manufacturing jobs that are
not necessarily backbreaking work anymore. But it can be tedious,
you know, and you're standing in one place for on
your feet all day long, like that might be yeah,
like that and people think it's beneath them. So yeah, Earl,
I appreciate it. Man, Thanks all right, take care you too.
All right. Let me go over and talk to Ralph. Hello, Ralph,
how's corn Pete?
Speaker 2: All right with sage and everything?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Trump, Ralph, your connection is breaking up? Are you on
a speakerphone?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And everything?
Speaker 3: Uh? Let me.
Speaker 2: I'm inside of of the Meca bork Kender interested.
Speaker 1: Tell them we said hello. Yeah, No, that's all right,
that's right, give me a call back, that's fine. In February,
Donald Trump's Department of Energy postponed three efficiency rules from
Biden that were related to central air conditioning, heat pumps,
walkin coolers, freezers, gas tankless water heaters as well. It
also carved a special regulatory category that would free up
the tankless heaters from Biden's near ban. Just last week,
the Department of Energy cut four more rules outright, impacting
ceiling fans, dehumidifiers, external power supplies, and the electric motors
that power almost everything. This isn't just red tape that
is slashed. It is a rare win for choice and
function over dogma. What did we dodge, Well, we dodged
quite a bit. The electric motor mandates. Specifically, these rules
everything from your blender to your garage compressor, like all
of it. Ostensibly, the goal was to reduce electricity use
and emissions. Sounds noble, right until you realize what it
does to the products that we actually use, because the
motors have to skimp on low end torque, which then
hobbles the appliances that need a quick jolt. Think about
your AC unit, you know, gasping as it kicks up
on a hot day, or a blender that stalls when
it's trying to chop up the ice, right, and then
what it has to run longer? Right, It's like the dishwasher,
I got to run it again. It's like the low
float toilets, remember that. They're like, oh, yeah, we're going
to reduce the water consumption. Yeah, except now I gotta
flush twice every time because it doesn't it doesn't all
go down. I waited to do this topic in the
third hour so people would be done with their lunch breaks.
You're welcome. Ralph is called that? Hey Ralph, Ralph? Oh no,
that's not Ralph. Carol. Hello, Carol, Hey there, Hey, what's
going on?
Speaker 4: So you know we have your your washing machine, and
it's got all the sensors and all the bells and whistles,
and weirdly, the the agitator just kind of like stopped.
You could see it was trying to work. And my
boyfriend is very very handy, was going to fix it,
and he's just like, you know what, He's like, I
can't fix this new stuff. So we went on marketplace
bought one. It only has two settings for sixty dollars.
This thing works like a charm. It does this close
in like half the time. I'm serious, I mean it,
I believe it. And you were saying about the dishwasher.
Our dishwasher, for it to dry so it dries thoroughly
has to run over two hundred minutes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ours runs for I think that it automatically sets
up at two hours and fifty eight minutes for one cycle.
That's the normal cycle, three hour cycle. That's crazy.
Speaker 4: If I don't if I don't want them completely dry,
and then it kind of you know, they kind of
like the heat dry or whatever, it's still one hundred
and thirty three minutes. Yeah, it's insane. Is that? So
we are very happy with our new washing machine for
sixty dollars on marketplace.
Speaker 1: How old of a machine? Is it like an old
machine or is it a brand new one?
Speaker 4: No, it's an older matex.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's got two settings. It's only small or extra large.
You don't get to set the water, you know, temperatures
or whatever. But here's the thing. If it breaks down,
my boyfriend can fix.
Speaker 1: Can fix it exactly, yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, Carol, thanks
for the.
Speaker 4: Felt pain in Yeah, marketplace and fix it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it's a it's a good lead. I appreciate
the call, Carol, thank you.
Speaker 4: You're welcome.
Speaker 1: All I take care. Now, that's what we were looking at.
We started looking at the Facebook, the neighborhood Facebook yard
sale page. Maybe somebody's selling a you know, washer drive.
All we need is the dryer washer is still working fine,
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do it. She's always doing loads of laundry, really small ones,
very color specific, very color like I did two I
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one is from Sin to Pete at Thepete calendarshow dot com.
I hate Ken Moore. Sorry, I hate that Ken Moore
is out of business. And I miss Sears so much. Yeah,
of all companies to completely miss the mail order shift Sears.
That's like, that's how you started. I remember doing this
topic when the Sears closed up in Ashville and I
went in there before it closed. It was so sad.
But yeah, I mean we grew up looking through the
Sears catalog But apparently towns used to collect up all
of the Sears catalogs when they first started, and they
would bring them to the town center and burn them.
It burned them because they were like Sears is putting
the mom and pops stores out of business. They viewed
the Sears catalog as an existential threat. But I mean
it's a case study in poor management, you know, over
a very long time, because of any corporate entity that
should have been positioned to become like you know, Amazon,
Sears was it. Instead it was a bookseller. That's what
Amazon started as, right, They just sold books at first. Anyway,
Cindy says, I share your frustration with appliances. Basic washer, dryer,
check out speed Queen, that's a brand. I was told
by a salesperson at a big box store that Maytag
is the choice now. He said, stay away from Whirlpool
for a while because they're having issues and are always
breaking down. Second choice would be ge and for refrigerators,
stay away from Samsung. Yeah, I think our Samsung is
the dryer. Yeah. Not happy. David says, Mom left not one,
but two Ken more upright freezers to me when she
passed away. The newer one is about twenty years old
and the other is almost thirty. Neither one is fancy,
but they both work like a charm and the one
repair issue between them was a part that I replaced
myself got a uh oh yeah, all right, well I'll
see if I can figure this one out in a minute.
It sounds like, hang on, yes, this is from Tim.
It sounds like you have the arc fault. Yes, this
is it. The arc fault circuit breaker AFCI instead of
a ground fault circuit breaker GFCI. Any R or spark,
any arc or spark will trip it when a motor starts.
There are sparks inside. Right when we bought our house
in Asheville, right before we came back to Charlotte, we
were in the middle. So we closed on our house
in Ashville, and then two days later I was offered
this job. So we like moved stuff in and then
like moved it all out. That we were in that
house for like a month. Christy was I immediately came out,
like I just we moved everything there, and then I
came down to start working. So the first night we
were in that house, we plugged in the television and
it tripped to the breaker on half of the house.
All three of the bedrooms and the living room all
went out, and we finally got a guy to come out.
It was under because it was a brand new home,
so it was like under repair or under warranty and all.
And he told us about this because I started looking
through like electricians websites and like the chat rooms and stuff,
and I didn't understand any of it, but they were
all like raging about these arc fault interrupters. And you
get like, if you get a bad box as an
electrician and you're just putting in all of the breakers
and you get a bad box, like the whole house
could be tripping, and that's what was happening to us.
So he came and he did all of the the
fixes for us. But yeah, like it's just it's nuts
the defective breakers, the amount of defective breakers basically from China,
and so we're having that problem. So we probably do
have an arc fault problem in our because and then
I found out he was telling me that they just
made it code in North Carolina to make the breakers
required on the refrigerator circuits. So when your refrigerator kicks
on and an ARC occurs, it's going to detect that
arc and it's going to shut your fridge down. So
let's just hope it doesn't happen while you're on vacation
because that would really stink coming home to that. Dennis says,
I got a dryer I bought used for sixty bucks
back in nineteen ninety one and it works fine. My
washer is a ken More that is forty years old.
My dishwasher is seventy five years old. That means both
my hands are still getting the job done. Very nice,
well played, Dennis George says we needed a new washing
machine after our high efficiency washer died after two years.
We bought a refurbished washer from ra City Appliances in Morrisville,
and I'm very happy with it. If you're shopping for
a classic machine, you might give them a look. Only
if that classic, I require that it have the flames
painted off of the wheel wells. That's how I want
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the program. His name is Chris. He is looking for work.
I read an email the other day. I've been trying
to find it. I cannot find it. Somebody had emailed me,
I think, and said that they had job openings they
couldn't find people to fill. Chris is looking for a job.
So I'm going to do this. Send If you are
aware of a job opening Chris is looking please send
it over to me and I can forward it to him,
all right, So send me an email Pete at the
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can make contact with you that way. So if you're
you work someplace, you own a business, you're hiring, there's
a listener who's looking for work, and so, I mean,
you know he's a good person because he listens to
the show. So send me an email Pete at Thepete
calendarshow dot com. I'll keep looking through the emails Chris,
but I just I've been looking during the breaks and
I can't find it. So I don't know if it
was an email, maybe in a tweet or something. I
get a lot of communications. I had a lot of communications,
but I apparently read something the other day and I
don't remember when it was. So that's uh, that's the best.
It's the best I've figured to do in the meantime.
All right, let me talk to Keith. Hello, Keith, Keith, Hey, Pete,
how are you doing? Oh? You know, getting by? What's
going on?
Speaker 3: Do you remember back during the of the Obama administration,
the Energy Star ratings that they were putting on things.
Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Do you remember that thing where the somebody submitted a
gasoline powered alarm cloth that managed to get the rating.
Speaker 1: I had not heard that now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got to see a picture of it had
a poll start on it and everything something based on
a loophole and the rules about how much electricity it
used nice and it didn't, so it made the rating.
Speaker 1: So it made the rating. Yeah, right, I mean, like,
I don't I don't ever look at that stuff. I
know it's there, and I know they have the numbers,
but I don't. I just I don't even I don't care.
I don't care. I want to know, like, is the
washing machine going to wash my clothes? Right?
Speaker 3: Well, I've got I've got the same three hour dishwasher
thing that just amazes me the first time I started it.
And I've got a refrigerator in my house that is
forty years old but I'm replacing right now. I've got
one out in my barn from the mid sixties that
has never stumbled or fall right, it runs great.
Speaker 1: Yeah. We when we bought the fridge, one of the fridges,
they told us, well, you know this will you know
these things will run about, you know, eight to ten years.
I was like, what eight to ten years? It's a fridge,
Like these things are supposed to My parents still have
their original fridge in that house. Like, what are you
talking about?
Speaker 3: Yeah, refrigerator I put out in my barn was in
our house when we bought it, and all life wanted
a new one. So we bought a new fridge. It
lasted about seven years, and bought another one. And how
this one's dead but the one out in the barn
still just kicking right along.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, uh, that's not a surprise, Keith. I appreciate
the call, buddy, Hi, thanks brother. Let me see here
I had, Oh, Pete, this is from good Wahoo. I
still believe what I have said previously about the tariffs
are negotiating strategy to get countries to lower actual tariffs,
but more importantly, the non tariff barriers, the trade barriers,
which are in effect much more onerous. These are state
subsidies of domestic industries, regulations that are always too high
to surmount, devaluing currencies, and outright theft of intellectual properties. However,
I believe most of these initial high tariffs will come
down substantially based on country by country negotiations, but some
tariffs will remain, possibly ten percent, which the administration looks
as a cost of doing business in our country for
imported goods and as much needed a much needed source
of long term revenue, which it won't be. By the way,
if if you close the trade deficit, then you don't
make the revenues right anyway, Uh, it's a shrinking pie.
But Trump plans to use him to bring down tax
rates and the thirty seven trillion dollars national debt. I
mean again, this is Look, I appreciate all of the
the speculation because that's all this is on what's really
going on. But you don't know. I don't know. Nobody
knows what's really going on. We're getting mixed messages from
the White House itself, so nobody knows what's going on.
So I appreciate the predictions. But we shall see, That's
what That's what I keep saying, is like, we shall see,
and he better be right, that's all. He better be right,
because if he's not, it'll be a mess. Ross says,
I call dibbs on working next to Pete if we
both end up working the line in the Upton Sinclair
novel or the Gulag type setting. Don't get me started
on appliances. Nothing works as well or lasts as long
as it used to. We haven't had a dishwasher last
more than four years. But we have friends who bought
a nineteen fifties house with original appliances in the late
nineties and everything still works to this day. H VAC, kitchen, appliances, everything.
Mark says, I disagree with what Caler Mike said. Put
the mills in the right place and they will have
plenty of people to work. I don't know. Yeah, I'm
not sure that that Pete. I hear the Maytag repair
man has lots of work to do, lots of work. Yes,
planned obsolescence, says Carolina Bulldog on Twitter. It's a Pete tweet. Yeah,
planned obsolescence, Like, we're going to make this technology, but
we're going to make sure that you have to replace
it after a certain amount of time or we're gonna
have to put a kill switch in it. So as
soon as the warranty period ends, we hit the kill switch,
then it dies. So now you can't get the free
replacement or repairs. So this guy at thereason dot com
writing In what is this called about Trump's Energy Department
saving our appliances? He says, every rule hits manufacturers with
retooling costs, hits consumers with higher bills, and our homes
with clunkier gear. His dishwasher, he says, as a poster child,
a five gallon water limit strangles it. My old bosch
used ten gallons at three seven kill awatt hours per
year energy cap. It starves the heater and the pump.
My German engineered jim used to shoot scalding hot water
and dry dishes in minutes. New efficiency rules bloated cycles
to more than two hours just to scrape at the grease,
four hours when I have to double up on the
wash right, because you got to run the thing twice
because it's not getting this stuff clean on the first
run through. Dozens more rules remain, though, rules that hike
our prices, gut performance, and drive out American manufacturers in
favor of compliant mediocrity. What a great term, compliant mediocrity.
That is the state of our appliances in America. Compliant mediocrity.
It is time to end this era of compliant mediocrity.
If I do say so myself, I applaud Trump for
all of the efforts to do that. All right, that'll
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