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<v Speaker 1>Seven oh six to fifty five krs DE talk station.

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<v Speaker 1>By the time, I's pushing everyone a very happy Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>slash Friday Eve and welcoming back. Always a pleasure to

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<v Speaker 1>have him on FOP. President Ken Kover representing Chapter sixty

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<v Speaker 1>nine in Fraternal Order Police. That's the Sinsint Police Department. Ken,

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me, good to heavy back on the show to

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<v Speaker 1>this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank good morning, Brian. How are you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing fine, Just kind of going over some of

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<v Speaker 1>the comments from AFT pro Voll State of the City.

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<v Speaker 1>Youth violence obviously brought up numerous times, although he did

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<v Speaker 1>claim that during the State of the City said he

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<v Speaker 1>claimed that youth violence is down more than thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>percent this calendar year. And I was scratching my head

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<v Speaker 1>over that one, because I know there have already been

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<v Speaker 1>more youth involved in incidents at the various transit centers

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<v Speaker 1>which seemed to be a magnet for these young punk

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<v Speaker 1>kids and crimes more this year so far than the

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<v Speaker 1>entire calendar your last year. So you tell my listeners

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<v Speaker 1>where are we in terms of crime generally speaking, in

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<v Speaker 1>youth crime specifically.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, when you look at like transit center stuff, those

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<v Speaker 3>are things that typically disorder, kids just fighting where you know,

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<v Speaker 3>an assault report is never generated, so those things don't

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<v Speaker 3>get thrown into stats. So you know, the reportable crime

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<v Speaker 3>may be down, but I could tell you with the

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<v Speaker 3>officers that go to these transit centers every day after school,

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to tell you that juvenile violence is absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>still a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, is there something that's behind it other than the

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<v Speaker 1>obvious social realities of maybe you know, not having a

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<v Speaker 1>mom and dad at home taking care of them and

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<v Speaker 1>minding the store, or I don't know, is this on

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<v Speaker 1>the uptick for any particular reason that you can put

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<v Speaker 1>your finger on that's sort of differ from the norm.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, not really other than the fact that they now

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<v Speaker 3>have a place to gather, you know, with all these

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<v Speaker 3>transit centers popping up, you know, instead of having these

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<v Speaker 3>kids just burst throughout you know, other avenues of transportation,

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<v Speaker 3>they're now going to central locations where gives them an

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity fifteen twenty minutes to wait for a bus. And

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<v Speaker 3>well know that if you give kids time to be silly,

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<v Speaker 3>they're going.

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<v Speaker 2>To be silly.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no question about that. So this really is all

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<v Speaker 1>about getting to and from school and using the metro

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<v Speaker 1>buses to do it, and having to gather together in

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<v Speaker 1>one place, concentrated, which obviously welcomes the opportunity for violence

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<v Speaker 1>between young people. So we're down to transit for public schools.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that really that? That's it, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean this these weren't problems seven, eight, nine years

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<v Speaker 3>ago when CPS had they're unbussing, you know where you

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<v Speaker 3>were picking up the bus in your own neighborhood and

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<v Speaker 3>going to schools. We just didn't see these problems now

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<v Speaker 3>that obviously that they're using these transit centers. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>look at Oakley. Oakley has never been a problem. Now

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<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden, this transit center there has been

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<v Speaker 3>a hub for issues in Oakley and it's starting to

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<v Speaker 3>terrorize their neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what a crying shame that is. Has anybody going

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<v Speaker 1>back to the well and talked about maybe going back

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<v Speaker 1>to the way it used to be in terms of transit, Well.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the biggest problem they've had is the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that CPS leadership has been changing. They don't have a

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<v Speaker 3>permanent you know, director superintendent for Cincinnati Public Schools. So

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<v Speaker 3>you know, just like the police department was when you

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<v Speaker 3>have an interim achieved for interim director, they're not going

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<v Speaker 3>to make any kind of extreme changes or drastic changes

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<v Speaker 3>until they have a permanent role. And that's that typically

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<v Speaker 3>ends up being a problem that we see all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>But instance that police department. If you have an interim

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<v Speaker 3>everything's going to be status quo until a permanent person's named.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what a shame that is this? I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a problem that's screaming for a solution, a solution

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<v Speaker 1>that seems to be I mean, you bring it up

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<v Speaker 1>here this morning. Go back to the old ways the

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<v Speaker 1>transit system. The kids aren't going to be congregating together

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<v Speaker 1>for a long periods of time. You'll have an end

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<v Speaker 1>of violence at least at these transit centers. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>simple solution, simple fix. It doesn't require a permanent position

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, just requires someone with the willpower to

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<v Speaker 1>start implementing it and figuring out how to pay for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I mean, these are simple concepts to you and I,

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<v Speaker 3>but I guess they become very complex when you get

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<v Speaker 3>to that level of leadership. And I guess they're just

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<v Speaker 3>afraid to make changes until they know who's going to

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<v Speaker 3>ultimately be in charge.

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<v Speaker 1>Well again, I'll repeat crying shame now you mentioned reportable crimes.

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<v Speaker 1>I have this theory and perhaps maybe you, as the

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<v Speaker 1>FOP president, can cover, can confirm it or deny it.

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<v Speaker 1>In the aftermath of all the old the defund the

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<v Speaker 1>police and the police are evil, it's inherently racist thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah blah blah. Hopefully we have gotten past

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<v Speaker 1>that nonsense and or back to supporting our men and

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<v Speaker 1>women in uniform because they do keep our neighborhoods safe.

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<v Speaker 1>But the bubble seem to have gotten burst in so

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<v Speaker 1>far as law and law enforcement's morale. When you have

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<v Speaker 1>a revolving door of crime and you don't get rewarded

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<v Speaker 1>by seeing the purp that you busted your hump chasing

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<v Speaker 1>down in the streets see justice, you're less inclined to

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<v Speaker 1>maybe arrest them or report a crime. Is that still

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a concept going on? Because I keep reading that, well,

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<v Speaker 1>violent crimes down, this gets down, and it's down. It

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<v Speaker 1>could be down simply because nobody's reporting crimes that happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that the biggest impact on this isn't

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<v Speaker 3>necessarily with the police, because you know, the police, if

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<v Speaker 3>they know, they're going to go and there. If somebody

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<v Speaker 3>calls the police danser for a report to be done,

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to go complete the report. But to your point,

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<v Speaker 3>what's happening, and we've seen this, I've talked to officers

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<v Speaker 3>about this, is that you have people that go, look,

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<v Speaker 3>sports system is not going to do anything to him anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm just not even going to report this right

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<v Speaker 3>because they don't want to waste their time. They don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to go down to court, you know, and and

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<v Speaker 3>spend two or three different appearances down there for some

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<v Speaker 3>defendant to maybe show up, maybe not show up, and

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<v Speaker 3>then ultimately when the case comes to a conclusion, they

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<v Speaker 3>get nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think, quite honestly, there's some citizens you know,

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<v Speaker 3>that are victims of crime that are fed up with

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<v Speaker 3>the justice system and say, nothing's going to happen to

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<v Speaker 3>these people. So you know, the heck with him, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not even gonna bother reporting it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that has me a little down. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you to stick your nose in matters political.

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<v Speaker 1>It might not be good for you, but you can

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<v Speaker 1>feel free to chime in if you prefer to. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little worried. Now with the post election, we

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<v Speaker 1>have Connie Pillach and Charmaine McGuffey is stays in her role,

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<v Speaker 1>so we kind of have a handle on how that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be at the Sheriff's office. But with Connie

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<v Speaker 1>Pillach's Hamilton County prosecutor, we don't have a Melissa Powers

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<v Speaker 1>tough on crime prosecutor any longer. That, coupled with a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the woke judges we have, which we know

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<v Speaker 1>are very very soft on crime, have any perception of

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<v Speaker 1>whether this is going to get worse before it gets better?

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's the million dollar question.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>I was asked this the day after the election with

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<v Speaker 3>some of the local media, and I'm actually going to

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<v Speaker 3>meet with Connie Pillage tomorrow. She and I exchange some texts.

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<v Speaker 3>She seemed very very interested to meet with me. But

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<v Speaker 3>those are some of the questions that I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>ask her. Is you know what's this going to look like?

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<v Speaker 3>Because ultimately it doesn't matter who the prosecutor in this

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<v Speaker 3>county is as far as law enforcement, because we work

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<v Speaker 3>with the prosecutor's office. To your point, you know, if

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<v Speaker 3>things are trending to where we are going to just

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<v Speaker 3>be soft on crime.

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<v Speaker 2>It is certainly going to make a huge impact.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think it's one of those things where I

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<v Speaker 3>think we are best to just wait and see. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>Connie's really an unknown because she hasn't been a county prosecutor.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think always can really do right now is

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<v Speaker 3>just buckle up and see how things are going to go.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that's really the only choice we really have.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point our heads and pray, how are things

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<v Speaker 1>at the since a police department. From a morale standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't any uh uh, I think getting any better

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<v Speaker 1>because all the reports I keep getting and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>asking you to agree with me or disagree, but I

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<v Speaker 1>can't find any of my since a police department friends

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<v Speaker 1>or little birds that normally whisper in my ear about

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<v Speaker 1>matters involved in the since police that have much of

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<v Speaker 1>good news. And so far as morale is concerned.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, every day is a challenge, and I've talked

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<v Speaker 3>about this before, where it really depends on where you work.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, some districts are tougher than others to work in.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, some districts face more violent crime than others.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's it's one of these things where I know,

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<v Speaker 3>certainly getting our contract done and getting a significant raise

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<v Speaker 3>certainly helps a little bit, but that's certainly not the

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<v Speaker 3>end all be all, so and we just keep on

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<v Speaker 3>plugging along. I know this last week, I was a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of different trainings, and you know, we had a

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<v Speaker 3>council member that wanted to come to show support. In

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<v Speaker 3>my career, I don't think we've ever had a time

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<v Speaker 3>where we have Cincinnati council members that are willing to

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<v Speaker 3>come just to say thanks for being there.

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<v Speaker 2>So it does seem like the pendulum.

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<v Speaker 3>Is starting to swing badly to where law enforcement is

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<v Speaker 3>being appreciated, but we're certainly not seeing it yet in

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<v Speaker 3>the courts. And that's a huge impact on morale. As

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<v Speaker 3>to your point, you go arrest somebody that's you get

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<v Speaker 3>done fighting with and only to find out that they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to get probation or they don't even get convicted,

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<v Speaker 3>that certainly is something that will extremely, extremely have a

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<v Speaker 3>big impact on morale.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I suppose that's a conversation you would obviously have

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<v Speaker 1>with Connie pill It's like, listen, Connie, we would love

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<v Speaker 1>for you to be tough on crime, and this woke

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<v Speaker 1>nonsense obviously hasn't done any city in the United States

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<v Speaker 1>of America a whit's worth of good. Look at how

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<v Speaker 1>deteriorated these cities have become, look at how the reversals

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<v Speaker 1>are happening across this country. So start on the right

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<v Speaker 1>foot being tough on crime. I think that's a reasonable request.

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<v Speaker 1>And then how about leaning on some of these woke

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<v Speaker 1>judges and telling them listen that those days are over.

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<v Speaker 1>We are not doing ourselves any service by letting people

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<v Speaker 1>who are violent and have committed multiple crimes in the

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<v Speaker 1>community out on no bond or with very light sentences.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's that's an easy ask ka Connie Billich

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<v Speaker 1>whether the judges will listen to her. But she's got

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<v Speaker 1>to have more poll with the woke judges than a

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<v Speaker 1>Melissa Powers would have.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, I mean, you look at what went on in

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<v Speaker 3>Seattle and San Francisco and how they're now backtracking, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>trying to fix all of these crazy policies. Let's hope

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<v Speaker 3>that Cincinnati and the elected officials learned that it did

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<v Speaker 3>not work there and now they're all backtracking.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's not even go there to begin.

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<v Speaker 1>With amen to that, and real quick before we part company.

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<v Speaker 1>Ken cob or FLP president. Any comments on the Addison

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<v Speaker 1>police dissolving. I did help this morning when I was

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<v Speaker 1>a kid. You know, I'm fifty nine revealing how old

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<v Speaker 1>I am. But you know you did not You didn't

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<v Speaker 1>go one mile an hour over the speed limit when

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<v Speaker 1>you were cruising through Addison. You would get pulled over.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like they had some reason. They were really, really,

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<v Speaker 1>really tough on speeding. But overall speaking your reaction to

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<v Speaker 1>the dissolution of the police department.

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<v Speaker 3>There, well, you know it's the Addison police departments had

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<v Speaker 3>had troubles for years with funding and now you know,

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<v Speaker 3>with having their their main source of tax revenue being

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<v Speaker 3>the plant right there on the Ohio River closing, which

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<v Speaker 3>I saw a stat that that accounts for three hundred

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<v Speaker 3>of their eight hundred thousand dollars a year in revenue.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I get it. I mean what else are

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<v Speaker 3>tough decision, but you have the Hamlin County Sheriff's Department

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<v Speaker 3>that patrols in that kind of southwestern part of the county.

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<v Speaker 3>You know they're more than capable, you know, folks, But

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<v Speaker 3>it's a hit anytime a police department is forced to close,

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<v Speaker 3>but I don't know what other choice they would have had.

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<v Speaker 1>Well with that loss of funding, I tend to agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you. I wasn't aware that that was the such

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<v Speaker 1>a sizeable share of their budget. So any event, Hamilton

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<v Speaker 1>County Sheriff's Office will be covering the territory, and I

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<v Speaker 1>trust they'll do a decent job. Ken, Cover, Thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>what you do. God bless the Cincinnt Police Department and

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<v Speaker 1>the men and women who serve so proudly and keep

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<v Speaker 1>us protected and safe. We have your back and the

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<v Speaker 1>back of the police Department here in the fifty five

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<v Speaker 1>CARSS Morning Show. Ken. I'll look forward to having you

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<v Speaker 1>back on the program real soon, hopefully with some good news.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that'd be great, Brian, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy to do it. Good luck with your meeting with Connie.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope it goes really, really well. Seven eighteen Right

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<v Speaker 1>now fifty five Carosee de Talk Station. She is that

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<v Speaker 1>love working with her. And why would you do that? Mortgages?

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<v Speaker 1>She is that Low's Camps with Cross Country Mortgage. If

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<v Speaker 1>fifty States or the or Puerto Rico. She can handle you.

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<v Speaker 1>Help you out in any of the fifty states in

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<v Speaker 1>Puerto Rico, so like New Hampshire, Garry or Mississippi James.

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<v Speaker 1>Either you need a mortgage called Susette Low's Camp. You'd

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<v Speaker 1>It took her just a couple of days to seal

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<v Speaker 1>and so happy they are. It's just such a cute thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's adorable. But Suzette is the one that got got

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<v Speaker 1>him in the crib beautiful place, Susan that will help

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say you built up a whole bunch of equity

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<v Speaker 1>in you'r homing, like I want some of that money.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, get in touch with Suzette and refinance yourself

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<v Speaker 1>with some of that money back into your pocket. Everything

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<v Speaker 1>I think anybody with more than thirty five years in

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<v Speaker 1>her a call, and you can call her anytime, she'll

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