Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to The Nut and Seven Challenges, a
podcast all about the challenge.
Speaker 2: As always, I am Brian sitting in his bedroom with
a Teddy Bear on the wall, thinking about how great
the nineties used to be.
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Speaker 2: Teeth, and sitting in her fanciest Hugh havena robe dreaming
about New Zealand.
Speaker 4: Carl and San Diego.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I got to wear this. This fancy who happen
to row to work today? It's lovely. We all had
to work today? Was Christmas? Work appropriate Christmas pajamas?
Speaker 3: Why a Thursday?
Speaker 4: Because half the office isn't there on Friday.
Speaker 3: Okay, so we're going to force you to come into
the office and we're gonna force you to wear pajamas.
Speaker 4: You didn't have to. I mean, hell, half of my
team brought the pajamas to the office and just like
looped their pants around their neck as a scarf, well
long enough to like make the points count, and then
immediately took them off. I on the other hand, was
very comfortable in my nice fuzzy robe, So I.
Speaker 3: Think I would have done that done the first thing. Yeah, letter,
letter of the law type of guy, not spirit of
the law. That's my thing. All right, Well, if you
are we doing the episode or what?
Speaker 2: Thanks you guys talk about pajamas? Sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 3: You seem distracted. What are you even fucking looking at it?
Speaker 2: Trying to see if I can find that Vimeo thing
so I can whatever?
Speaker 3: Go ahead, go ahead, Tim, I'm watching the reflectionary glasses
trying to figure out if you're looking at porn.
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm on Vimeo right now.
Speaker 3: There's porn on Vimeo. Dude, Oh my god. Start at
the show, all right. This one, guys, Season forty, episode fifteen.
This is where they just give up and trying to
find puns with the clever titles and shit, and they
just fucking make up phrases. This it's called the Thinking
Thin Era, weakest titled the season so far, if I
do myself. They get back to the house after the elimination,
Corey and Kara are chatting and they basically just both
say like, hey, we have nobody else and that's we
said that last episode too, and we'll say it again
this episode, it just has to be me and you
as each other's number ones. And then Car does this
like super sexy dance. I didn't know Car I could
dance like that, but I was into it. I would
like to see that.
Speaker 4: Cara danced a few times this episode, I know, and
I liked.
Speaker 3: It every time. I'm super into Carl. Car dance some.
Speaker 2: Then Carl danced.
Speaker 4: True, excuse me, Carl busted out some moves as well, Carl.
Speaker 3: Carl had some moves though, you know, Carl have some moves.
Carl had me asking questions that I hadn't asked myself before. Oh, yep,
that's happening. We get some like Caddie. One of several
Caddy scenes with Bananas, Jenny and Rachel. They're talking to
it about how Kara is finally playing the game, how
she's been sort of floating along doing nothing all season
and now all of a sudden she's trying to collect
alliances and shit.
Speaker 2: Acting like, oh my god, how could this person do this?
It's not like who plays this game does it that way? Yeah?
Speaker 3: What's his what's his point here? What's his point is
that Car should not be trying Oh yeah, this is
why he needs to pay for the good Internet.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, this is why you need to pay for
the good internet. Tim all of that disappeared.
Speaker 2: What yep, you literally cut out and we heard nothing.
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, I don't know. I had a good question,
but it's gone now to the ages, it's forgotten. Oh no,
I think my question was like, what's what's Banana's point,
Like shoud Car does not try it's like, just fucking go.
Speaker 4: The point is that he wants to be a dick.
That's just what bananas does.
Speaker 3: It's just hypocrite, hypocritical. We don't need to dig any deep.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just bananas being bananas because he can be bananas.
Speaker 2: Typical thing of like a good believe she's not picking
aside and blah blah blah. And you know, because Johnny's
never just floated to the end of the season before.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think she.
Speaker 4: If she had made friends with him again at the
beginning of this season and then just floated along like
Aviv did, because a eve floated along until now, then
he wouldn't say shit about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think it's the Car has floated on the opposite
side of him because she did have a hard, hard
first part of the season, know with Laura was picking
on her instead of the first part. But yeah, she's
floated the last several weeks. She has just sort of floated.
But this is how the game goes. You don't you
don't play the game, and so they have to play
it and she's kind of been floating and that's fine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it is a game strategy, as Zach
likes to say, like it's a strategy to float along.
I mean we've seen ct do it. We've seen Jordan
do it, We've seen Johnny do it. We've seen all
of the big players do this at some point in
time or another. Yeah, like it's it is a game strategy.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 4: It's fucking stupid with someone when someone like Bananas or
really any of them call it out as a as
not being a strategy and that they've Yeah it's I
really dislike Johnny.
Speaker 3: Uh, same disase to And you know this is a
like we're getting into the of the season where it's like, yeah, funny,
I like these ninety minute episodes, but we don't need
to see all these politics. This feels like a lot
of like sort of repetitive stuff. Like we don't need
to see all of it, so clearly.
Speaker 4: I have a we have a theory about next week's episode,
and I feel like I need to keep it for later.
Speaker 3: But I really want to. Well no, well we'll get
in the yeah when we get to the next yeah,
coming soon or whatever. But so this is it, right,
We get a bunch of like sort of jumping around
political talk. Rachel is talking about trying to work out
protection deals with Jordan and Kyland. Rachel's very on it
politically this this season, which I like, but it's a
little much too.
Speaker 4: She is so really quickly. Mindy in the chat room
says the car won when she was a target, which yes,
she did. Like she's not actually floating along. She was
a target one point in time. She's been a target
a few times, and she won when she was a target.
Like Johnny saying that she's floating a lot, She's not
actually floating along. She's just not playing politically with.
Speaker 2: Him elimination before.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, as far as Rachel playing like really
being political, like she came back ready and raring to go.
She came back into this show like if I'm gonna
be here, I'm gonna fucking be here and I'm gonna
show up and I'm gonna show out, and yeah it's
I'm I still kind of feel like I did towards
the beginning of the season. Oh Tim's video was gone again.
I still kind of feel like I did at the
beginning of the season, where she sometimes she's a little
bit too much like over the top, kind of a
tryhard like Derek. But yeah, it's still a lot of
fun to see her like really come in and play
the game like it's meant to be played and not
float along like a vive.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm torn between liking her and loving what she's
doing and also just sort of yeah, feeling like you said,
like a little try hardy a little like you can
back off of it for a minute here. But I
also I wonder if this is just part of these
episodes being longer and we're getting more more of this,
because I don't need to see Corey and Carr have
another talk either about there, like, oh, we don't have
each other anymore, Like okay, I get it, like fucking
we've seen it. Move on, And that's how I feel
about Rachel with a lot of these talks, like yeah,
Jordan and Kylon we get it, like we get it.
So yeah, So Corey goes in and he talks to Jordan,
and Corey are Jordan and Tory, uh, and they're talking
about how Corey just won this elimination, thank you for
like knocking out these players whatever. What I liked about
this is that Corey looked at Tory and said like, hey,
I didn't pick you as a target, and I have
no doubt that that that you're going to pay that back.
It's not even a question you're going to pay that back.
I know you will. But that's like pure manipulation, right
to make Toy feel like she owes him something.
Speaker 2: I mean maybe, but I feel like they've been sort
of dancing around where his placement is yeah, for a
while now.
Speaker 4: So yeah, because Tory definitely did the thing of like,
you're not going to be my number one because I
have Jordan and whoever else. So I can understand why
he want to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but at the when you when the game is
this low, like you really are only saving one person, right,
Like if you if you win, one person is safe
and one person can't be nominated, right, So it's like
you're only saving one person at this point, right, Yeah,
So so Corey is really just hoping Jordan wins so
that there's a spot for Toy to have a number two.
Otherwise Tory can't have a number two.
Speaker 4: I mean true, but I think I can understand him
wanting to like get her to actually say, yes, you
are you have that spot?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I do too. I just I feel like this
is another example of Corey feeling like he's in with
somebody who he's not in with. We just saw this
with Michelle. I think Toy is gonna do the same
thing to him for Corey, yeah, all right, And and
then we get a Vivan Michelle. They're talking that they're small,
they're underdogs, they're both targets. They need a challenge where
like a little person is rewarded for having a little body.
That's what you call foreshadowing people. Uh And with that
run of the challenge, yeah, look alive.
Speaker 2: We did not play.
Speaker 4: Every time.
Speaker 2: I had to like highlight it and.
Speaker 3: Whatever.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 3: All right, guys, no, I know you are. I'm I'm
still looking at the porn through your glasses. If you
can look at it please the cet blow drove video please.
Speaker 4: We Sildom found that.
Speaker 2: I have almost in charge of finding it, so in
charge of you're the one.
Speaker 4: Who's always through the Reddit threads.
Speaker 2: She specifically asked you, Tim if you had found it. Yeah,
never responded like usual.
Speaker 3: Do you think I wouldn't share it with you, guys?
If I found CT's cock on the internet, come on,
of course I would share it with you, guys. I
would think of you the whole time I was staring
at that cock. You specifically, well for you, not you Carlyn.
Speaker 4: Well, we can't see who you're pointing out because oh
yeah you have shitty internet.
Speaker 3: Well now I took my pants off, so now you
don't want my video on Believe.
Speaker 2: Me, he's not going to find that video Internet, No
he's not.
Speaker 3: Nope, all right, most awkward opening to the challenge ever.
They're just standing around with birds trooping and ship. They're
looking on this weird jungle. I didn't like this. I
didn't like this part at all.
Speaker 2: It was weird.
Speaker 3: TJ rises from the ground again, zombie showing up out
of the ground. Nope. Didn't like any of this. Nope.
I hated it. I hated every second. Don't do this again, MTV.
This is terrible, all right, So as a reminder, guys,
the targets this week are Michelle, Aviv and Jenny, so
one of them has to win this little thing that
they're doing. This challenge is called tight Quarters. Basically, these
tunnels were dig were dug during Vietnam, right, they didn't
say that.
Speaker 4: I mean they're in Vietnam. They were doug during the
Vietnam War.
Speaker 3: Well, yes, that's what I meant. Yes, yes, sorry, I'm
saying the americanized version of that. But yes, obviously they
didn't say that, they like pay tribute to that in
the episode. They should have, h they didn't.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure they were Vietcong tunnels, but I.
Speaker 3: Think they were too. Yeah, they should have said something.
I don't feel like they should have said something. Anyway,
inside these tunnels, there's hats, answer, spiders, what you're gonna get?
Speaker 4: So they have they have the other the challengers have
referenced the Vietnam War war enough, it's kind of it
is kind of surprising that the show itself didn't recognize it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's.
Speaker 4: Probably it truly is probably because it was for the
other side, not for the American side.
Speaker 3: I'm sure, Yeah, I'm sure that that's true. But that's
that's still bullshit.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Anyway, So the point is they gotta crawl through these tunnels.
They eventually get to a slighter puzzle. Once they can
finish that, they grab a bag, go through more tunnels,
and then do one more puzzle at the end, and
then that's it and then you're done. A Viv has
a two minute penalty going into this because she did
so poorly at the last challenge.
Speaker 2: And that's about it for what this is.
Speaker 4: I mean, not really, because you have a Viv who
quote unquote breaks the rules and she breaks down a
barrier because she gets turned around in the tunnels and
thinks that you have to break down a like there's
a cross set of sticks and she pushes that down
and ends up running in like the complete opposite direct
action of the of the challenge. So she gets decued
pretty early on. Yeah, it looks like she doesn't even
make it to the puzzle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think, No, she never did. I felt
really bad. I mean in one way I felt bad
for her, and the other it's like, come on, like, yeah,
I mean it wasn't.
Speaker 4: Honestly, It's kind of like when Natalie, like a few
years ago, when Natalie started running in the opposite direction
of what she was supposed to be going doing, and
she ended up running an extra like four miles.
Speaker 3: Yeah, at some point, somebody's got to put their foot
down to be like, just fucking stop a eve, just
turn around, you're gonna get eaten by whatever animals look
out here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well there was that, But then there was also
Johnny Banana's fucking up royally on his second puzzle.
Speaker 3: Loved that, Yes, because he says this the puzzle God
smiled smiled upon him. With the first puzzle, that slider
just snapped right into place, and then that second puzzle
he just could not get it, and I mean just
so wonderful to see him so frustrated.
Speaker 4: Oh, it was great. The second puzzle for anyone who
potentially hasn't watched yet, the second puzzle was it was
three by three squares, and three of the blocks that
they have to put into these squares to make this
picture have pictures on both sides on two sides of them,
two opposite sides of them so they can be flipped around,
and ultimately this picture looks like a giant picture of
TJ's face. Well, Johnny when he's going through it the
way that he initially puts the blocks in. He has
two mouths and is missing like a side of TJ's cheek.
So he's freaking out because he can't figure out why
this face has a second mouth. One of them is
a smiling face with just lips and the other one
is a smiling face with teeth, and he's just like,
I don't understand where all this goes and does not
realize that you can flip those things over.
Speaker 3: Yep, I love it. So the only people that got
really super screwed on that were Bananas and Rachel yep,
which is weird. It's I don't know, it's weird.
Speaker 4: Though she had the same she seems like she was
the the other one who didn't realize they could be flipped.
Speaker 3: That's what I mean. Yeah, it was those two that
sort of couldn't figure it out. The other two there
was something that struggled for a minute but figured out that, oh,
these pieces have two sides. It's weird that Bananas is
one that didn't figure it out and Rachel, like they're
both smart, they're good at this game. It's weird that
they couldn't figure it out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is it is weird. I it's more weird
to me that Johnny didn't figure out that you can
flip those blocks, like it's a three D block, the
thing is six inches deep, like of course you can
like pick it up and flip it around, just to
make sure there's nothing on there that you would miss.
Like even Kara knew to turn it around and look
at things yep.
Speaker 3: And bananas, like I would normally assign other shit to
bananas as like, oh, he's he just didn't want to
win this for some reason. But he seemed so fucking pissed.
I don't he wasn't playing. He was not playing here.
He was fucking angry.
Speaker 4: Well, and I think so my theory that we we'll
talk about later. If my theory is correct, I have
I have a feeling that's part of the reason why
he was so pissed, because I think he may have
the same thought going through his mind at this point
in time. But yeah, it was It made a little
bit more sense that Rachel didn't get it just because
she hasn't been in this game for so long, like
maybe she wasn't those things that usually click to be like, hey,
maybe let's flip the blocks around didn't click because she
hasn't been around for years. But she's also smarter than Johnny,
or at least she seems smarter than Johnny.
Speaker 3: So yep, I thought the same.
Speaker 2: You should also point out that puzzle is Johnny's face,
I mean, and he Tori is the first one to
do the puzzle when he asked her, like is kind
of ugly, and she's like, no, I love this man.
I love him right now because she like soared through
that puzzle.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Tory went through it so fast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then Banana's like, whoever, this face is a
little fucking punch of I can't wear a punch of
bright in the mouth, and TJ's at the background just
like laughing, cracking up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was great. The other moment I liked
is uh just Corey getting into the tunnel. He like
barely fit.
Speaker 4: I did not think that his shoulders are going to
make it through that thing.
Speaker 3: I know it.
Speaker 2: He was very close.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, and so like I think I think Johnny
was saying that facetiously. But then at the end when
Jenny went and Jenny sounded like she was serious when
she asked, who is this talk about? It's me and
she goes, no, it's not, because yeah, it does. Look
it's me. And she had this like the tone of
her voice made it sound like, wait a second, what.
Speaker 3: She's so is that really you? Oh my god, she's
so Yeah, I think she's a I really think she's
a stupid person.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 3: The rest of this is just really just like these
weird vignettes. We don't know how the rest of these
people did. Necessarily, we kind of only know the top
and the bottom. Yeah, but like Kara, you know, so
many people were freaking out of the bats and shit,
and Car was just like, oh, it's a bat, Okay, Yeah,
I like Car.
Speaker 4: She usually is pretty good with all of the all
of the wildlife, Like they've had a few challenges with
snakes and bugs and other things, and she was just whatever, Yeah,
she's fine.
Speaker 2: Corey also thought the face puzzle was his face.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he thought that one of the noses was his
nose at one point in time.
Speaker 3: Like, no, no, but it's charming. When Corey is stupid,
it's charming. He's such a charming guy. Uh yeah, we
get we get Derek telling Bananas that those pieces were
had two sides, and so you get Bananas like the
real time reaction bananas realizing.
Speaker 4: That reaction was so good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was great, and that's how I know it
was genuine, Like you could tell that guy looked like
you just got punched in the nuts. He looked fucking devastated.
He looked like someone just ran.
Speaker 4: Over his puppy, like full completely like what, yeah, Johnny,
you are amor on Yep.
Speaker 2: Loved that.
Speaker 3: Kylin does really well. But on the last puzzle, I
can't seem to get TJ's nose in the right position.
Takes him four tries to get TJ's nose right. It's
kind of fucking weird.
Speaker 4: I mean it very obviously just had the like the
bottom of his nose, like, yeah, that goes on the bottom, dude,
what did you think that was.
Speaker 3: It's weird because Kylind is so good and so smart
that when he gets hung up on something small like this,
it's like, what the fuck dude.
Speaker 4: I mean it also does make me think that, Okay,
maybe if we were all underres if we were under pressure,
that it would take us a few minutes longer. But
it's still just I don't know some of the mistakes
that these people make on puzzles are just so dumb.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, and then yeah, Rachel times out and
that's kind of it for the challenge. Anything else that
you guys noticed about this thing?
Speaker 4: No, no, I think that was everything.
Speaker 3: All right. So at the end of the day, Kyland
and Tory are the winners. Aviv goes right in elimination
because she was decued. Bananas is penalized for the next challenge.
But question, guys, after Aviv was disqualified, why did the
women have to keep going? Why did anybody have to
keep going? Because we know how this is going to
work out.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yeah, No, technically other women could have been
disqualified as well. True, which then I would assume they
would base it on who got disqualified the fastest.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they could do that. It'd also be for who's
going to win for the women?
Speaker 2: Also true?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess, yeah, I guess yeah. But and who's
going to win for the women? Why does that even matter?
Because it's the men who decide the women that are
going in. I guess who's safe, right, yeah, then they're
who's safe from being a target. Yeah yeah, all right, maybe.
Speaker 2: We still don't know who's They still don't know who's
gonna win though the Tory was part of the process,
but they still need a female woe. Yeah, but I
mean does they are there they are safe from being
chosen for the next round of targets.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I just said. Yeah, that that's that's
really the only real benefit is that that safety because
they don't have any say in nominations or anything, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 4: But they're only they're only safe for the next week
for the round of targets, and the next week round
of targets is supposed to be men which you know,
I'm not gonna wait until the end. My theory is
that next week is not actually going to be a
men's week. It's going to be a double elimination.
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll get there too, because yes, that's my question
with with ten left, how are we going to finish?
Speaker 2: Jesus Jesus rowim.
Speaker 3: Sorry and my pulling a Zach Yes, yeah, well let's
get into at the last because I think with ten
players left, yeah, we had to figure out how the
next like what the pacing is of the next couple episodes. Yeah, yeah,
we'll get to that again.
Speaker 4: But I'm just saying, like I'm throwing it out there.
I think next week is going to be a double elimination,
which is why I think, like uh TJ made some
made a comment at the end of this episode that
made me that really solidified that for me, but purely
for your question of why do they need a why
did the women keep going? Normally it would only matter
for the men to have a winner this week because
the men are the ones who are up for elimination
next week. But if it's a double elimination, then they
definitely need a winner for both.
Speaker 3: Oh right, yeah, sure, all right, well then that's it.
So they're back at the house. Michelle and Kylon are celebrating.
Michelle brings us, brings it to our attention that those
two are the only ones in the house still that
have never been to a final. Kind of hard to believe,
but true if you think about it.
Speaker 4: M hm.
Speaker 3: And so then we get Kara, Tory and Derek. They're
making a birthday party for Michelle. This is kind of fun,
I don't know, reminded me of the old Challenge days
of past. Carla Maria gives a little strip tease and
then the Devin version of Tory appears in the bed.
Kind of hot. I'd watch that porn.
Speaker 4: I like, I appreciated the two of them dressing up funny,
but I didn't really care that it was Michelle's birthday.
But it was fun to watch.
Speaker 3: It was fun to watch it, And you'd watch that
porn too. Don't say you wouldn't watch that.
Speaker 2: Of Tory dressed up as Devon.
Speaker 5: With Michelle, Yeah, I mean with Michelle, yes, but dressed
up as Devin. And that's not really my Karl Maria
on the side, I could not do Karl Maria.
Speaker 2: I could.
Speaker 3: I could make that happen. Another scene of Bananas of
Viv and Jenny. They're still deciding to talk shit instead
of and they're still talking right, so weird. The whole
thing is weird. They're just so, they're so weird and
petty to just fucking.
Speaker 2: It's gross.
Speaker 3: It's gross. But the other thing that's gross, I don't know.
I'm a little over Rachel being like obsessively overly positive.
It's like, calm down, Rachel talking about Vive. That's great,
talk about Vive, that's fine, But Rachel, calm down, say,
oh my god, who does this? Who gets this far
after a twenty year break? It's what you've done is on.
It's unworthly, it's ungodly.
Speaker 2: What that fact?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think this is where Rachel's personal
trainerness really comes out, Like she has to do that.
I'm sure she has to do that with every single
one of her clients, like, yeah, you can do this,
you're doing great, all that sort of thing. But yeah,
her her incessant positivity about this game is a little little.
Speaker 3: It's much intense. Yeah, let life defeat you, Rachel, like
like us, like the rest of us, be negative. Uh
And Bananas, for his part, he says he doesn't care
who wins this elimination because whoever comes back will not
pick him as a target. So a fuck, Carl. How
do you feel about that approach to Banana's game, she supports,
Carl loves it.
Speaker 2: How do you feel about this elimination?
Speaker 3: I don't feel bad. I don't feel bad.
Speaker 4: So bad today?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So bad?
Speaker 3: Yeah? So what answer the question? I can answer the
question or what.
Speaker 4: I I don't care. I truly don't care how Johnny feels.
Speaker 3: All right, good show guys, with that one nominations, Wolf,
he hit the fucking button. Get off that porn out
thing that you're playing on with your phone. I can
see it.
Speaker 4: Jesus Christ, porn has better internet than you do.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm just saying if I'm not, I'm just saying.
I'm just saying that's all. But still it's a yeah
but still thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's exactly already won that argument. Where are you going? I?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but still it we're both yeah, stilled it before
you did, but I but I came in after, so
I went it. You know, last word? Uh, look what
the fund guy? We're doing a show here, man look alive.
Uh So I kind of like the nomination, uh kind
of pulls no punches. He just makes it says like, hey, Jenny,
it's gonna be you. Like you're definitely going in, but
we're here to talk, so like let's just let's have
a conversation. I don't know what is this approach? Guys?
Is this a good approach to this?
Speaker 4: I appreciated I appreciated Tory wanting to be messy and
like cause a little division between the Banana's angels with
asking you know, who do you think Johnny would have
picked to go in between the two of you? But like,
did we not foresee that both of them were just
going to kind of be like, Oh, I wouldn't carry
the way because I love them both.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, what a ridiculous answer from Jenny for that, Like,
I don't care. I'd be happy if he picked Ah,
shut up, who cares. I don't know. I thought it
was a good answer or a good question for Tory.
I do kind of wonder what the point is is.
Speaker 4: Like I loved the question because I love the mess
when you get that question to the right people, When
you get that type of question to the right people,
the mess and chaos that can come out of it
is so much fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of wonder. I kind of wonder if
it got in Jenny's head a little bit, because she
got a little frantic there trying to sort of defend
her relationship with Johnny. She got a little weird. If
this is a little earlier in the game, I wonder
if it mattered. It's too late in the game for
this to matter, frankly, like, who you know, alliances are
what they are.
Speaker 2: It is what it is.
Speaker 4: So yeah, no, I think you're right if this were
if this were earlier in the game, she would definitely,
I mean earlier in the game. She didn't really have
an alliance with any of these people. She was looked
at as the weird girl, and I, yeah, I think
it could have really gotten into her head then. But
now it's it's a little more kind of like, why
are you asking this question to people who are not
going to give you the fun answers that we want
them to give.
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh, well that's kind of it for this nomination.
I don't know, nothing really happened. It's gonna be Jenny
the end yep uh. Back at the house, we get
Corey talking to Kyland. They're talking about number one getting
rid of Jordan and the other good players, and that
the last time a black guy won this show is
Nehemiah in Gauntlet three, like a billion years ago. So
they're both saying, like, it'd be nice of a black
guy one.
Speaker 2: I started like searching my brain, like that can't be true,
and then I thought about it, and I'm like, holy shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird. It's weird that it's been that long.
Speaker 4: I when when we went through that, or when he
said that, I went back through all of the all
the winners to see if we had, like how many
women of color had been had made it into the
final or won the final in the last ten plus years.
And it's surprisingly it's super diverse for the women. They
and the last at least because I don't think Casey
Is has any black descent in her background. But Amber
won like what threeasons ago.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's there.
Speaker 4: Are quite a few different Like, it's relatively diverse for
the women. For the men, it's all white guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, to be fair, Danny one USA one, so for
kind of the USA seasons, that's another black guy. And
then yeah, on the men's side, really the wins have
been dominated by C. T. Jordan and Bananas like in
the last whatever twenty seasons or whatever. I bet they've
got twelve of the last twenty, you know, between those
three white guys, and then West also with another like
two or three of those leftover wins, you know. I
mean it is just on the men's side, not only
not diverse in terms of like ethnicity, but just not
diverse in terms of people the winners. Yeah, yeah, I
mean it's really just they're the same winners every time.
Speaker 4: Yep. And I don't know that the USA version counts
just because they most people aren't gonna know it. Most
I don't think most people followed the the spinoffs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't think he counts as a Yeah,
he doesn't make the count champ. You know, when they're
talking about champs, he's not typically when they talk about
but uh, worth the mention in this conversation, I suppose, Yeah.
Speaker 4: I honestly, I had completely forgotten that he had won.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was great.
Speaker 4: He did kind of win by default because everybody else quit,
but at least he made it to the end.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Rob, I mean he like that was a
legit win because there was still people working while he won,
So it wasn't you know that was a.
Speaker 4: More legitim Well yeah, so, I mean his was a
more legit when because people were still going and he
went all the way to the end. He was just
the first one to finish. Yeah, but like Tyson had
already quit by that point in time.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I like what Corey and Kyland were talking about here,
because they're talking about like wanting to get Bananas and
Jordan out of the game, and Kylon says something like, well, yeah,
of course I want to beat the best, but like
they've got to get to the final themselves. So like
if they don't get to the final, I still beat them.
And I feel like we don't hear challenges talk like that,
and I feel like that's just a very realistic approach
to this. You don't necessarily have to beat Jordan a
final to beat him into the game. If you just
if he gets out anywhere in the game and you
win that final, you've still beat him, you know. Yeah,
so yeah, I don't think it's a pussy move to
try to get him out before the final, as it
seems like what they're implying here, like get him out
however you can.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I must have missed that part in the
actual show. It's never a pussy move to try and
get any player out earlier in the game, Like that's
that's stupid to even like even try to. The whole
point of this game is to get the other opponents
out before you.
Speaker 3: Get But you've seen you've seen this, Carlin.
Speaker 4: Though.
Speaker 3: These players will be like, oh, I don't want to
I don't want to take a lay up to the final.
I want the best with me. I want to show
I earned it. Yeah, whatever.
Speaker 4: Jordan likes to pull that shit all the time. He Honestly,
I think Jordan is the only one who truly does
actually want to go to the final, like truly wants
to go to the final with only good players. I
think he's truly the only one. I think everybody else
that's a lot of lip service.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too, And I like Kylon's not
giving a lip sir, He's just being He's saying what
I would say, like if if Jordan gets out before
the final, I still beat him. Like, yeah, that's that's.
Speaker 4: True, right, It's being realistic around about it.
Speaker 3: Yep. I like Kylon the more I see that guy,
and I sure didn't hate him at first. We see
if you've talking to her husband, Ryan Bruno. Is this
guy famous for anything? Why does it tell his first
and last name?
Speaker 2: Do I know?
Speaker 4: I also the moment that he popped up on screen.
I then fast forward through all of their scenes.
Speaker 3: Really, what was your Did you have a thought about him,
like how he looked or anything. I have a very
specific note about this no, yeah, well yeah, wolf, anything.
Speaker 2: Any about this guy thought average average white guy.
Speaker 4: It's a very specific note.
Speaker 3: So my very unspecific the un average white guy part.
You know, it went through like some Instagram photos of
him with with of Eve and stuff, and then the
video call. In every single picture and on the video,
he was wearing a necklace. I find that just a
little unusual. They like it just all the time, all
the time, not all the time, not all the time.
Sometimes he doesn't have one. It just strikes me as
very weird.
Speaker 4: You I wear a ring all the time or a
watch all the time, Like, what are you talking about.
Speaker 3: Tim, isn't that weird? It's an unusual thing for a
dude to wear a necklace all the time, all the
in every.
Speaker 4: Every the military where the guys in the military wear
a necklace all the time because they have their dog
tags around their neck all the time.
Speaker 3: This is not These weren't dog tags. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: It's still a necklace.
Speaker 3: Of course it matters. It's it's unusual, it's unusual. It's
worth it's worth talking, it's worth mentioning. So weird, I
don't think. I don't think so. I think that's worth mentioning.
I think it's very strange that he would do that,
and also that he would insist on both names. I
bet that was his. He wanted both names on his
little name card. That's why my name is Ryan Bruno.
I don't like this guy. I don't trust this guy.
There's something about this guy.
Speaker 2: I gotta go.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like it. Yeah, no.
Speaker 4: Chat room. Do you guys find him as weird as
will be? And I find him because it's not where
I where's a wedding ring all the time? Is that weird?
Speaker 3: No, because the wedding ring is is an is A
is A is a not unusual thing for people to wear.
That's a usual thing. A necklace in every picture is unusual.
That's why I'm calling attention to it. It's an unusual thing.
Speaker 4: It just is. It just is.
Speaker 3: You're gonna tell me it's usual.
Speaker 4: For some people.
Speaker 3: It is. No for Ryan Bruno apparently, but no, the
usual is like it's like it's for everybody. You can't
read a fine what the word means to fit your death?
Speaker 4: And so weird? Okay, So I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's it's not so weird, not so sorry, not so weird. Yeah,
I don't think it's so weird. I just think it's unusual.
I think it's worth I think it's worth I think
it's worth a note.
Speaker 4: Say you focus on the weirdest things. I it did
not even I did not even give that a second thought.
Speaker 3: All Right, well let's move on. Hey, I'm trying to
move on, Karl, car I really I would really like
to move on before before Wolfe gets back. All Right,
we're well past it. We're well pasted it.
Speaker 4: Like your women doing makeup in the mirror.
Speaker 3: We're well pasted on TV. It's well, it's well past that.
Speaker 4: Uh we've just decided that Tim is weird.
Speaker 3: So genuine moved on. Genuine even goes home. Thanks everybody,
good episode, good night. No okay, with that, they're on,
We're on to elimination. We couldn't do that without you.
We'll no, no, no, no, we can't do it. We're
run of the challenge. Run of the challenge. This is
called the Iron Triangle. I bet you couldn't play this
game with a necklace on. It would be unsafe. You know,
it's like a physical game, be a safety issue. This
is called you're right over there, Carling.
Speaker 2: I forgot my my micro.
Speaker 4: Were you talking?
Speaker 3: What'd you say?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 2: I did say stuff, Like as soon as the music
was like it was like fading out. I was like
stick around chat room, tried to like end the show.
Speaker 3: But Tim kept on going, so, oh, yeah, no, you're
a muted Sorry dude, No, we got it. No, we
actually got a legit finish this show. This one's called
Iron Triangle. You can tell they just gave up on
all this ship, naming this episode, naming this elimination. It's
all dumb. Iron Triangle. This is a This.
Speaker 4: Elimination was.
Speaker 3: Week Sauce.
Speaker 4: Was a pole wrestle without being a pole wrestle. It
was a ball's in without being a balls in. It
was a It was actually weird.
Speaker 2: I actually kind of liked this elimination. I just wish
it was with competitors, that it was more of an
actual matchup.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I should say, I should say I didn't actually
mind the elimination. I didn't like that it was two
competitors who were so unevenly matched.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was that one was tough to watch. Yeah.
So basically, it's a it's a triangle. You're stuck in there.
There's a circle on the outside of that triangle. You
have to launch a ten pound medicine ball over the
side of this without getting outside of the circle. Uh,
it's first to two or first of three or something,
doesn't matter. First two first of two. Jenny just wins
them both. Yeah, yeah, this is this is very much
a physical thing. I don't know what Aviv could have done.
It seems like Jenny had three inches and thirty pounds
on her. It's kind of it's over like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Every time Jenny got the ball first. Every time she
launched it out a few times and it hit the circle,
but it went it then rolled out of the circle. Yeah,
it just Jenny had size onto the entire time. Aviv
didn't have a chance. Like they kept talking about how
Aviv was scrappy and was really like trying her all
and sort of things like, yeah, she may have been
trying her all, but to your point, she was three
inches short and thirty pounds late.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think some of these games you just
sort of can't overcome the physical disadvantages. This is one
of them. You know, it sucks. We saw a Viv
jump on her back like she. Aviv did try her best,
but you know, this is what it is to switch.
Speaker 2: Then everybody, including Johnny Bananas, pointed out the comparison to
the Johnny Banana's backpack.
Speaker 3: Yeah not quite as cool, but no, nothing.
Speaker 4: Will ever be as much fun. As watching the Johnny
Banana's backpack.
Speaker 3: That's right, all right, Well that's it, guys. Anything else
to say about this elimination?
Speaker 2: Yep, Now I'd like to see it again in a
more competitive setting.
Speaker 4: Yes, I agree with that.
Speaker 3: Yep, so vivo some that's it. Jenny, for her part,
picks Jordan, Corey and Derek as the targets, and that's
it for this episode. There's ten left guys, five men,
five women. So Carly, how is how's the rest of
the season shaken out in your in your estimation?
Speaker 4: Well, so in this like TJ makes a very very
solid point of saying, there are ten of you. That
is too many for my final And because I will
apologize now to anyone who is who's in our our
fantasy league, because I tried to change it to three
picks instead of four and then realize then we had
a whole conversation on our end, So I thought I
was trying to make it better for everybody, and then whatever,
we'd switch it back, which is why two weeks ago
I did thank you Peter for fixing everybody stuff. But
because of that, I've been trying to pay attention to
how like trying to find how many episodes we have
left for the season, and I think with the information
that I've found there, and then also I think it
was on I don't know if it was Wikipedia or IMDb,
and it might might have been IMDb that has the
number of episodes left. If we're getting a two part final,
I think next episode is going to be a double
elimination because we usually go into the finals with eight
people and then they purge someone out immediately.
Speaker 3: So you think there's three more episodes, Yeah, I think.
Speaker 4: We've got next episode. I think he's going to be
I think they're going to probably show up at the
at the challenge and either have to pick targets, like
she's either going to have to pick targets immediately for
the women or they're going to make it through that
whole thing. Whoever loses for the women is going to
immediately go into elimination, and whoever wins that episode is
going to have to pick two targets, okay.
Speaker 2: Or my theory doesn't work to recount how many people
we had left, and like.
Speaker 4: That, I think I think that's what I was just
want to do.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, the other the other thing that that
I think is going to happen. Is we just do
two more rounds like normal, Right, we have men's around
next time, and then women's round the time after that,
and then a two part final. So four episodes left.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but we have every final that we've gone into,
because that every final that we've gone into, I mean, yeah,
I guess we could have four more episodes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it's true, because that.
Speaker 4: Would still leave us for eight. But everything that I've
seen shows that we have three episodes left.
Speaker 3: Okay, So we'll see.
Speaker 4: And I don't know. It's the way that TJ, and
it may just be confirmation by us on my side,
but the way that TJ made a point of saying
that ten is too many for his final, it in
my head that pushes the at the end of next episode,
he's going to say, congratulations, you're all in the final.
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll see, we'll see. This is the dull drums
though this. I stopped loving this show after see after
episode fourteen or so, it's like that's too long.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is you're right. This is right around that
time that it's the episodes are too long and we're
ready to get to the final, and we know that
it's right around the corner.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: They also this episode, more so than any other episode recently,
they mentioned the final multiple times. Yeah, Johnny made a
point of mentioning it. Tory made a point of mentioning it,
like it got it got mentioned multiple times in this episode,
which is the other reason, like another reason why I
think at the end of next episode he's going to
announce that they're in the final.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well we'll see. IMDb says we have
three episodes left.
Speaker 3: Yeah see, yeah, we'll see, or maybe we'll just have
a one episode final, which would also be fine.
Speaker 4: I'm just really hoping that we truly do only have
three episodes left, because I only have twelve picks left.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I lost it because a ev I think I
had two more picks of AVIV, so I lost some
of that. Yeah, I'm running out now too. Yeah, I
had a bad couple of weeks.
Speaker 4: Yeah. See, I like my whole point behind the switching
it down to threes, so on the uh, like, I
was thinking in terms of the number of picks that
I have left, and at that point in time, I
think I had like seventeen or sixteen something like that,
so it would have taken us out like if we
had four episodes. I don't know. Somehow with the math
it came out where one way, if we had four
picks for it, then I would be like four short,
three short, And if we had three picks for it
that I'd be right on the money. And I had
it in my head that everybody was had this same
number of picks and completely forgot that it depends on
who you picked earlier in the season and who you
picked later in the season.
Speaker 3: Don't worry, guys, me and Zach we roasted Carlin for
a minute. She changed her mind. We bullied her into submission,
as men do with women who try to do things
without our approval.
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Speaker 2: Reading that out of order?
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I really shook it up.
Speaker 2: That's what I do. Reviews, we don't, no, Carlan, do
you want to go over fag.
Speaker 4: Well, so the the host League, I don't even know
if we want to look at it, but we will anyway.
Zachie Bananas is still in first with like almost double
the points, Wolfe's in second, I'm in third, and Big
Uncle Sweete's and fourth, and so the addition of three
additional people to your team doesn't seem to have really
helped them.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, sorry, I mean the people.
Speaker 4: That have still been on mine and Wolfy's team don't
seem to still have have really helped us, and Zach
is still just.
Speaker 3: You know, I have a band far ahead. Yeah. I
don't give a shit about that. I don't care about that.
I just care about the public league.
Speaker 4: Yep, okay, So the public League. First place a CET
phone home. Second place is me a ct Phone Home
with twenty nine fifty four. I'm in second with twenty
nine oh seven, and I touched Johnny's Banana with twenty
eight sixty nine. And then we have big Uncle Sweet
Tea has broken the top ten. I think you've been there.
I think you broke the top ten a few weeks ago.
You are a number nine now with twenty five ninety five.
A minute, you got like you've got a little less
than four thousand points, three thousand points between the two
of us.
Speaker 3: I mean I can't catch you, but I think I
get down five three thousand.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I get good.
Speaker 3: I can get tough five.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because fifth place is twenty seven sixty one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you might get yeah, I get it.
Speaker 4: We've got the ability to do it. Let's see Zachi Bananas.
Is it nineteenth with twenty three thirty three, and Woolfee
is at thirty third with sixteen eighteen. Have you just
not put in picks for the last for you haven't
put in picks for the last four weeks, that would
be why Well.
Speaker 3: If you're in a good spot now though, because you've
got good players left, man, sure it's your time to
catch up?
Speaker 2: Say so?
Speaker 3: Yeah, said, all.
Speaker 2: Right, anything else going on? We need to cover that.
Speaker 3: I forgot about, yes, CT on social media spinning out
like a motherfucker gsc this stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, So I kept sending that stuff to our
group chat because I wanted Zach to talk about it
when he got on here, because he was gonna, you know,
he does his social media corner. But yeah, there was
like a week and a half ago CT lost his
fucking mind on social media and posted, I want to
say it was like forty or fifty stories to his
Instagram story of screenshots of his girlfriend the OnlyFans Star,
screenshots of her making plans with other dudes, and all
of these things basically implying that she was cheating on him.
And it was just it was a sort like trying
to go through all of it, because I did at
one point in time try to go through it all.
It took us of like twenty minutes to get through
all of those stories, and it's just like pages and
pages and pages of screenshots and then literally that like
within an hour he put all of that stuff up
and then took it all down, and then the next
day put out an apology to her, or like two
days later put out an apology to her. And it
looks like things maybe back to status quo they' but
he was.
Speaker 3: He was also commenting a lot to people on via
his Instagram. He was commenting to just like regular normal
people in like dark, fucking weird ways, and so like
the people on Reddit screen were screenshotting it. So I
mean you can go on Reddit and find tons of
these things that have since been deleted.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks like he just kind of went through
a I don't know, a depressive episode or maybe a
manic episode for a few days, or I don't know,
something just set him off, because yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know, it's weird. I didn't read throw the messages,
but I read it really picked up on one. It
was all screenshots between her and like her OnlyFans guys
or whatever, you know, and I guess doesn't he know
how fans work.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think he was. The way that it
was all kind of framed was that he was implying
that she was an escort and not that she was
just messaging guys on OnlyFans just to increase that fee.
And some of the comments you actually meet up.
Speaker 3: And yeah, and some of the comments about CT were
sort of like, oh, I've got a big fish on
the line. I've got like I'm trying to get rich
off this guy. Like some of it was so to
like shitty to Cete. Yeah, but it's all.
Speaker 2: Part of the fantasy only fans, But she.
Speaker 3: Was she was talking about CT to the dudes.
Speaker 2: But I think that's like the thing like, oh no,
he's not for real, you're my real one.
Speaker 3: Oh I get you, I get you, the whole thing, like, yeah.
Speaker 2: These all seem like dudes who go to strip clubs
are like I think the strip are really Yeah.
Speaker 3: But the the one that read it really picked up
on and it took off was one of these comments
talking about the quote pie they made together about cream Pie,
you know, And so it's everybody's latching onto that. It's
just the grossest fucking ship ever, Yeah, pie, the pie
we made together.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, as far as I know, that's
I don't know if there's any other social media stuff.
I guess I could check.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I just so Laurel.
Speaker 3: The CT both spun out like like maniac.
Speaker 4: It's been Laura looking real hot on her Instagram. Yeah, yeah,
she's so fucking hot. Look at that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so hot that smiles her horn pirate face.
Speaker 3: Though, I do the cutthroat where she would wear the
the the ship, the hats and stuff into that and
the boots, those big boots with the fur on them.
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, uh all right. For this episode of Challenge,
it's been.
Speaker 3: Brian Big on the Sweet team, Carl and san Diego
and is uh.
Speaker 2: TJ said, would you punch this guy in the face?
Speaker 3: I mean, if it's Johnny Bananas, you already played it, dude,
We get it again, he thought, Sally and Shalie aunt Sally,
He thought of
Speaker 4: M hm