WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.160 --> 00:00:06.280 Meaning a man like this man letting butterfly flapping his wing. 2 00:00:06.280 --> 00:00:07.360 They've down in a force. 3 00:00:07.480 --> 00:00:10.240 Man, it gonna cause the tree fall, letting five thousand 4 00:00:10.279 --> 00:00:10.839 miles away. 5 00:00:10.919 --> 00:00:20.719 Man, nobody see nobody else. See you don't need no Man's. 6 00:00:19.879 --> 00:00:22.039 Like you followed another story and. 7 00:00:22.120 --> 00:00:24.280 You got back to flect that that's the way. 8 00:00:24.399 --> 00:00:27.320 Man don't blackly d on Panela man, Man, you don't 9 00:00:27.359 --> 00:00:29.719 no matter man anyway. 10 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:40.200 One of the things that sets us apart from the 11 00:00:40.280 --> 00:00:45.679 conservatives is a certain degree of open mindedness. Conservatism, in 12 00:00:45.759 --> 00:00:50.399 my mind, is more of a personality trait than uh 13 00:00:50.600 --> 00:00:55.880 political ideology. It is the personality trait that says things 14 00:00:55.880 --> 00:00:59.200 are working pretty well, let's not rock the boat, sort 15 00:00:59.200 --> 00:01:03.439 of a strong abiding belief in the status quo ante. 16 00:01:03.799 --> 00:01:07.359 And that difference between us and them expresses in a 17 00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:11.519 number of ways. That openness that has led us to 18 00:01:12.120 --> 00:01:16.280 controversial ideas, to ideas that are not widely expressed, is 19 00:01:16.319 --> 00:01:20.439 also shown in the art scene. The right wing art 20 00:01:20.480 --> 00:01:25.519 scene is very different from the Daily Wire TV productions, 21 00:01:25.760 --> 00:01:31.120 the Cash Betel children's books, the creative output of the conservatives, 22 00:01:31.159 --> 00:01:33.560 so to speak, It's a different thing, even if it 23 00:01:33.599 --> 00:01:38.439 is both under the broad p number of right wing art, 24 00:01:39.239 --> 00:01:44.120 and because we have that both that creativity but also 25 00:01:44.959 --> 00:01:47.480 desire to analyze, Like, look, there's a lot of this 26 00:01:47.599 --> 00:01:50.640 show that is fundamentally media analysis. You could even look 27 00:01:50.640 --> 00:01:54.519 at something like gamer gait, right. Many of us came 28 00:01:54.599 --> 00:01:59.359 to this through looking at cultural art facts and pulling 29 00:01:59.400 --> 00:02:02.680 them apart. What does that say? What is the belief 30 00:02:02.760 --> 00:02:05.120 behind that? What does that tell us about the creator? 31 00:02:05.159 --> 00:02:07.959 And also about the world in and of itself? And 32 00:02:08.039 --> 00:02:10.960 this is expressed, for instance, in the concept of media 33 00:02:11.000 --> 00:02:14.080 literacy right, where progressives will say, you know, there's only 34 00:02:14.120 --> 00:02:17.120 one way to interpret this, and they look at things 35 00:02:17.159 --> 00:02:20.400 like you know, the Joker movie, The Boys, stuff like 36 00:02:20.439 --> 00:02:22.759 that and say, oh, don't you get it, this is 37 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:26.120 making fun of you, where us in ours pick through 38 00:02:26.120 --> 00:02:27.639 it and say, oh that, you know, that's something I 39 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:30.680 can relate to, that's something I enjoy. There's that sort 40 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:33.599 of back and forth in the culture war. But one 41 00:02:33.599 --> 00:02:38.439 of the most abidingly irritating things from my perspective about 42 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:43.319 this is that because progressives have cultural hegemony, right, they 43 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:47.360 get to call the shots. They're in charge of the institutions, 44 00:02:47.599 --> 00:02:52.439 government and also cultural and so they get to set 45 00:02:52.479 --> 00:02:56.759 that kind of null hypothesis the generally accepted values. And 46 00:02:56.800 --> 00:02:59.800 one of the most irritating things is because of that control, 47 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:02.039 they get to have their cake and eat it too. 48 00:03:02.520 --> 00:03:07.280 They get to dress up, to play pretend as revolutionaries, 49 00:03:07.319 --> 00:03:10.560 to play pretend as if they are bucking the system, 50 00:03:11.280 --> 00:03:15.879 while in actuality having the exact same values as Chase 51 00:03:15.919 --> 00:03:19.360 Bank or Wells Fargo. Several moments that I can think 52 00:03:19.400 --> 00:03:24.080 of really express this one. The Summer of Love couple 53 00:03:24.120 --> 00:03:27.360 buddies are over having a good old fashioned land party 54 00:03:27.520 --> 00:03:30.719 playing twenty nineteen Modern Warfare, a bunch of guys in 55 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:34.319 a basement, and the game kicks us out after install 56 00:03:34.360 --> 00:03:37.319 an update. And when we see the update load, after 57 00:03:37.719 --> 00:03:40.879 the forty five minutes of all these consoles spinning up, 58 00:03:40.919 --> 00:03:45.319 and what happens, Well, nothing has changed except for Black 59 00:03:45.360 --> 00:03:49.520 Lives Matter and the menu. Every menu couldn't escape it, right, 60 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:53.639 This massive cultural product funding from the DoD, hundreds of 61 00:03:53.639 --> 00:03:56.639 millions of dollars in revenue and costs put on by Activision, 62 00:03:57.439 --> 00:04:01.960 This massive entertainment product, well, it has the same values 63 00:04:02.039 --> 00:04:07.599 as this quote unquote revolutionary leftist throwing bricks into a 64 00:04:07.599 --> 00:04:13.639 flaming AutoZone. Another one, remember years ago during June going 65 00:04:13.639 --> 00:04:16.839 to pull out some money from Wells Fargo, right, one 66 00:04:16.839 --> 00:04:19.000 of the biggest companies in the world. And there's an 67 00:04:19.079 --> 00:04:23.480 unskippable pride message, right, like Wells Fargo wishes you a 68 00:04:23.560 --> 00:04:27.519 happy Pride Month or whatever. And again the values of 69 00:04:27.560 --> 00:04:31.240 the revolutionary left being parroted by one of the biggest 70 00:04:31.240 --> 00:04:35.720 financial corporations in the world, right, a huge multinational corporation. 71 00:04:36.360 --> 00:04:38.839 And despite the fact they share those values, they still 72 00:04:38.879 --> 00:04:42.160 get to play pretend as revolutionaries. They get to play 73 00:04:42.199 --> 00:04:45.839 pretend as if they are the plucky rebels up against 74 00:04:45.879 --> 00:04:49.839 the empire and the genuine dissidence. You or I, anyone 75 00:04:49.839 --> 00:04:53.600 listening to this, we are in fact representatives of this 76 00:04:53.680 --> 00:04:58.319 sort of shadow elite, the Russians, the Chinese, the secret 77 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:01.920 racist to pull the strings. And so despite the fact 78 00:05:01.959 --> 00:05:05.720 that they share values with the most powerful corporations, the 79 00:05:05.800 --> 00:05:09.920 most powerful universities, governments, even or really they're the underdogs. 80 00:05:09.959 --> 00:05:13.240 This sort of self conception of the rebel, and you 81 00:05:13.279 --> 00:05:16.759 can trace it through any number of things. Right, Milton Satan, 82 00:05:17.360 --> 00:05:19.959 you're the man or the angel I guess, cast out 83 00:05:19.959 --> 00:05:23.399 of habit, sort of the archetype of this rebel. And 84 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:26.480 because of that, he's been subjected to this character to 85 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:29.240 endless number of character studies by the progressives of his day, 86 00:05:29.319 --> 00:05:33.120 obviously falling out of fashion because Milton was a seventeenth 87 00:05:33.160 --> 00:05:36.360 century British writer. But you see the same thing with 88 00:05:37.079 --> 00:05:42.040 the French Revolution, the Spanish Civil War, always casting themselves 89 00:05:42.120 --> 00:05:45.959 as the rebels, even in a situation where it's completely 90 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:49.959 and totally absurd, And you still see that in the arts. 91 00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:55.000 For instance, recently Banksy was not only unmasked, I think 92 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:57.199 many people for the first time became aware of who 93 00:05:57.279 --> 00:06:03.040 he was, but also he unveiled a new sculpture, very stunning, 94 00:06:03.240 --> 00:06:08.120 very brave of a guy with flag and holding it 95 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:11.560 up triumphantly, and the trail of the flag was blinding 96 00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:14.519 his face. The critique of course being this is what 97 00:06:14.639 --> 00:06:18.639 nationalism does. It blinds you, you moron. But the deep 98 00:06:18.680 --> 00:06:24.399 irony is that that sentiment, his whole artistic persona of 99 00:06:24.439 --> 00:06:27.279 being an edgy rebel, Well, those are the exact same 100 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:31.399 values of the UK government. Those are the exact same 101 00:06:31.519 --> 00:06:34.680 values of the state under which he lives. And if 102 00:06:34.720 --> 00:06:38.920 he was actually a genuine threat to power, who's genuinely 103 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:42.480 speaking truth what we know in the UK, he'd be 104 00:06:42.519 --> 00:06:46.519 in jail be referred to prevent they would get him. 105 00:06:46.879 --> 00:06:52.079 Not only does he enjoy the advantages of being the 106 00:06:52.120 --> 00:06:57.480 court just the chosen sort of artistic representative of the regime, 107 00:06:57.519 --> 00:07:00.480 but he also gets to play pretend. He gets both 108 00:07:00.920 --> 00:07:06.319 both the advantages of rebellion the advantages of being bucking 109 00:07:06.360 --> 00:07:10.759 the trend, but without any of the costs. And you 110 00:07:10.839 --> 00:07:14.240 see this more and more through really the last sixty 111 00:07:14.279 --> 00:07:18.839 seventy years of media. In this interview, we mentioned multiple 112 00:07:18.879 --> 00:07:22.879 times John Lennon's imagine, which is sort of the positive 113 00:07:22.959 --> 00:07:27.480 vision our elite to operate in service of the sort 114 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:31.399 of non individuated society of gray Goo. There's no race, 115 00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:36.439 no culture, no religion. Everyone is simply an atomized unit 116 00:07:37.040 --> 00:07:41.120 searching for utles, searching for self expression in whatever way 117 00:07:41.120 --> 00:07:46.160 they see fit, which conceptually you'd imagine leads to infinite 118 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:50.199 expression infinite diversity quote unquote, But as someone who lives 119 00:07:50.199 --> 00:07:53.319 in this world, you will understand it just means everyone 120 00:07:53.439 --> 00:07:58.240 turns into the same person in slightly different skin toned. 121 00:07:58.680 --> 00:08:02.120 There's no real culture, sure anymore. Everyone has been sort 122 00:08:02.160 --> 00:08:06.439 of to adopt a Marxist Lenz kind of sublimated under 123 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:13.680 is kind of like Globo Homo capitalist project, and it's made, 124 00:08:14.399 --> 00:08:17.639 like any form of artistic expression, very difficult. We talk 125 00:08:17.680 --> 00:08:19.959 about AI a bunch in this episode, and I don't 126 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:22.680 like talking about AI. It's sort of the refuge of 127 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:25.560 Midwich to talk about it. But there is something weird 128 00:08:25.600 --> 00:08:29.759 about it. It both is this great aggregator again, the 129 00:08:29.879 --> 00:08:33.320 kind of gray group of everything, a thousand images pulled 130 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:37.559 into one technically original one. But again, there are things 131 00:08:37.559 --> 00:08:41.159 that cannot do, There are areas it cannot go. It 132 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:43.840 is bound in that way, and so it's set this 133 00:08:44.080 --> 00:08:49.039 very narrow band for real expression. I'm friends with a 134 00:08:49.080 --> 00:08:52.320 lot of writers, friends with a lot of artists, Carl Dahl, 135 00:08:52.519 --> 00:08:54.679 Andy Edwards, John Slaughter, people who have been on my 136 00:08:54.759 --> 00:08:59.159 show numerous times. And it's interesting to me because you 137 00:08:59.200 --> 00:09:01.720 could look at that as as right wing are Maybe 138 00:09:01.759 --> 00:09:06.480 that's true, but fundamentally these are not really political books. 139 00:09:06.519 --> 00:09:09.679 They aren't didactic. There isn't a scene at the end 140 00:09:09.960 --> 00:09:14.039 where you get the author's manifesto with the rs. They're human, 141 00:09:14.360 --> 00:09:19.960 they're genuine expression. It exists in the cracks of the 142 00:09:20.039 --> 00:09:22.960 sort of totalizing regime. The things you can't talk about, 143 00:09:23.080 --> 00:09:25.840 the audience, you can't reach out to and I mean 144 00:09:25.840 --> 00:09:30.600 that's real rebellion, that's real self expression. Those guys are 145 00:09:30.639 --> 00:09:34.480 way more authentic, to use sort of a buzzword than 146 00:09:34.559 --> 00:09:38.919 the canned rebellion of Banksy, of Green Day of Rage 147 00:09:38.960 --> 00:09:42.440 against the machine of John Lennon. The fake, sort of 148 00:09:42.480 --> 00:09:47.600 synthetic lie of rebellion as sold to you by Chase Bank, 149 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:49.919 is sold to you by Paramount, is sold to you 150 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:53.799 by the globalists that take a page from Alex Jones notebook. 151 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:59.399 And I think that's an interesting, interesting gap here where 152 00:09:59.840 --> 00:10:02.759 I I won't name any details at all, but I've 153 00:10:02.759 --> 00:10:07.799 been talking to friends who've been approached by the system 154 00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:12.840 because of their creative work. And there's an interesting anecdote 155 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:16.679 on the phone with a guy and he was talking 156 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:19.759 to someone interested in something he created to try and 157 00:10:19.799 --> 00:10:23.360 transform it into a mainstream product. And the guy said, 158 00:10:23.600 --> 00:10:26.840 you know, it's so rare to find authenticity, and when 159 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:30.000 you do, its gold. Obviously, the idea being that if 160 00:10:30.039 --> 00:10:32.159 you can find something authentic and exploit it, you can 161 00:10:32.200 --> 00:10:34.759 make yourself a lot of money. And when we look 162 00:10:34.879 --> 00:10:37.399 at you know, whether it's Hollywood, whether it's the major 163 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:43.440 streaming services, video games, even there's very little of that authenticity, 164 00:10:43.559 --> 00:10:48.919 very little of that human expression. Everything feels homogenized, Everything 165 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:51.720 feels the same, Everything feels as if it is designed 166 00:10:51.759 --> 00:10:56.360 by committee consensus, an algorithm designed to hit certain boxes. 167 00:10:56.679 --> 00:10:58.600 And when something has an auteur, when it has someone 168 00:10:58.639 --> 00:11:01.679 who is sol and totally in charge of something, it 169 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:07.080 doesn't have that effect. It's maybe not mathematically optimized, but 170 00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:09.679 it's real. And so I think that there is a 171 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:14.080 turn to sort of raid us for our cultural output. 172 00:11:14.200 --> 00:11:16.720 And might say us, I don't just mean the people 173 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:20.399 listening to this, but that kind of bleeding edge of authenticity, 174 00:11:21.159 --> 00:11:26.000 that bleeding edge of genuine expression, because their system, you know, 175 00:11:26.039 --> 00:11:30.720 the kind of system of homogenization, John Lennon's imagine the 176 00:11:30.840 --> 00:11:34.840 kind of dual faced Janice God that is on one 177 00:11:34.879 --> 00:11:38.000 hand Winston Churchill and on the other John Lennon, you know, 178 00:11:38.080 --> 00:11:41.759 this sort of chimera. There was an explosion at the beginning. 179 00:11:42.360 --> 00:11:47.639 You look at the music of the fifties through let's 180 00:11:47.639 --> 00:11:50.200 just say the nineties, and there's an arc there. It's 181 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:53.879 an immense amount of creativity, but it seems to have 182 00:11:53.919 --> 00:11:59.279 burnt out, seems to have exhausted any sort of capital 183 00:11:59.320 --> 00:12:02.320 it has. You see this in music, they are more 184 00:12:02.360 --> 00:12:05.080 and more of these kind of throwback acts, many of 185 00:12:05.080 --> 00:12:07.679 whom I like again, but it feels as if there's 186 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:10.600 nothing new, and at the same time, you know, Hollywood 187 00:12:10.639 --> 00:12:12.960 or video games, more and more we see these remakes, 188 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:18.639 these retrip things of some feeling they're not making the money, which, okay, 189 00:12:18.639 --> 00:12:22.159 fair enough, simply being financially profitable is to not make 190 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:24.080 it good art, but it is a sign that things 191 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:28.080 are bad for that industry. More and more of these companies, 192 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:29.960 more and more of these sort of media empires, are 193 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:32.879 being forced to reckon with the fact that they lack 194 00:12:32.919 --> 00:12:35.759 any authenticity. I mean, another great example is the Daily Wire. 195 00:12:36.360 --> 00:12:40.960 According to reporting, I think Ben Shapiro's down ninety percent. 196 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:44.639 He's widely seen as fake, as inauthentic. And so what 197 00:12:44.679 --> 00:12:45.159 does he do? 198 00:12:45.720 --> 00:12:45.879 Well? 199 00:12:45.879 --> 00:12:48.399 He starts Fortnite streaming, which is, you know, hilariously out 200 00:12:48.440 --> 00:12:51.559 of touch and kind of embarrassing. But what is that, Well, 201 00:12:51.519 --> 00:12:55.720 it's a desire to grasp onto something that whichever group 202 00:12:55.759 --> 00:13:01.200 of kind of cobolistic supercomputers controls the Daily Wire, a 203 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:04.960 desire to frantically grab authenticity, like oh what a what 204 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:08.519 are real people like? Uh? Fortnite streaming? I guess, and 205 00:13:08.600 --> 00:13:10.879 sure that's out of date, that's embarrassing, but you see 206 00:13:10.879 --> 00:13:14.279 that flailing and you see that desperate desire to regain 207 00:13:14.639 --> 00:13:17.120 some sort of human connection. And I don't think they 208 00:13:17.159 --> 00:13:20.240 can do it. But this thing of ours, if you will, 209 00:13:20.799 --> 00:13:24.679 I see it. I see that there's real artists, and 210 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:27.519 not just in the sense of promise like oh, one day, 211 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:32.240 but there's guys we're good, really good, who should have 212 00:13:32.279 --> 00:13:35.080 a publishing deal and they don't for any number of reasons. 213 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:40.360 I mean, the same reasons that we're all underemployed, you know, underutilized. 214 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:45.039 But that's exciting. We're seeing culture and we're seeing things 215 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:48.679 that are good from new writers, from guys who haven't 216 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:53.000 been around, who don't have a massive bibliography, and it's like, well, man, 217 00:13:53.039 --> 00:13:55.159 if this is good, if this is novel number two, 218 00:13:55.759 --> 00:13:58.240 what are you gonna do with number three? When someone 219 00:13:58.279 --> 00:14:00.120 finally gives you the money to make a film, to 220 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:02.399 make short film, to do anything like this is going 221 00:14:02.480 --> 00:14:06.080 to catch fire. It's incredibly exciting. And I think it's 222 00:14:06.120 --> 00:14:08.639 also important to bear in mind that this sort of panopticon, 223 00:14:08.799 --> 00:14:14.240 this totalizing system, this sort of gray goo homogenization, it 224 00:14:14.279 --> 00:14:16.480 falls into the category of many things. You've heard me 225 00:14:16.519 --> 00:14:20.240 talk about this with foreign policy, with the nation of Israel, 226 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:26.559 which is a goal that is obviously desired. People want 227 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:30.159 that to happen, but from my perspective, it's impossible. So 228 00:14:30.559 --> 00:14:32.759 the Greater Israel project, the idea that there will be 229 00:14:32.799 --> 00:14:36.200 this sort of Laban's realm where every country is completely 230 00:14:36.200 --> 00:14:40.840 and totally dysfunctional, subservient to the Zionist state, Well, clearly 231 00:14:40.879 --> 00:14:43.679 people want that, but can that actually be done? Is 232 00:14:43.720 --> 00:14:48.759 that something that can be accomplished? The separate question. Similarly, 233 00:14:49.399 --> 00:14:53.320 this kind of one world panopticon, you know, everyone managed, everyone, 234 00:14:53.559 --> 00:14:58.360 you know, perfectly controlled by the algorithm. Clearly people want that. 235 00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:01.600 Clearly that is something that our elites, certainly some of 236 00:15:01.639 --> 00:15:04.039 them are desirous of. But it brings up the question 237 00:15:04.159 --> 00:15:07.639 is that possible? And I don't think it is because 238 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:10.799 the exact same trends and forces which are turning cultural 239 00:15:10.799 --> 00:15:15.279 output into slop. Right, nothing feels competently done anymore. Well, 240 00:15:15.279 --> 00:15:18.279 we're seeing it in governance as well. There is something 241 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:23.120 about human nature that resists this sort of homogenization. And 242 00:15:23.159 --> 00:15:24.799 when I say resists, I don't mean in like a 243 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:27.399 fund or a great way. These systems just tend to 244 00:15:27.440 --> 00:15:30.639 catabalize themselves or tend to break under their own weight. 245 00:15:31.240 --> 00:15:34.720 But it really reminds me of the Tower of Babel Babbel. 246 00:15:34.799 --> 00:15:37.799 However you say it, depending on what area of the 247 00:15:37.799 --> 00:15:41.480 country you grew up in. But this idea of this 248 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:45.279 one human system, this one world government, the tower that 249 00:15:45.279 --> 00:15:48.159 will reach to heaven, this great project, and it's cast 250 00:15:48.159 --> 00:15:51.000 into chaos. It doesn't work. We see that in politics 251 00:15:51.039 --> 00:15:53.519 all the time. And when these one party states, this 252 00:15:53.639 --> 00:15:57.200 politics cease to exist well on a party level, perhaps 253 00:15:57.759 --> 00:16:01.559 you know, look at the you know, minor voting districts 254 00:16:01.600 --> 00:16:05.000 in California. They're never going red, but there still is 255 00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:07.799 politics there. There's still is disunity. There still is fracture 256 00:16:08.120 --> 00:16:11.000 along different lines, along lines that I don't think are 257 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:14.799 particularly good. I don't think that, you know, neighborhoods in 258 00:16:14.840 --> 00:16:17.600 America should basically function as you know, a political race 259 00:16:17.639 --> 00:16:20.320 war between you know, one immigrant group and the other. 260 00:16:20.360 --> 00:16:23.720 I don't think that's good. But you do see that 261 00:16:23.720 --> 00:16:28.320 that there is no possible homogenization in that way, particularly 262 00:16:28.399 --> 00:16:33.399 when these people are getting stupider. The competence that our 263 00:16:33.480 --> 00:16:36.960 system requires is becoming rarer and rarer, and I think 264 00:16:37.000 --> 00:16:40.200 that there is an unconscious who knows maybe conscious desire 265 00:16:40.799 --> 00:16:44.759 to plug that gap in human capital with AI idiot. Oh, 266 00:16:44.799 --> 00:16:48.039 we can have this great tool that will negate the 267 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:53.080 need for competent and capable men. And again, I think 268 00:16:53.120 --> 00:16:55.799 that is a desired outcome, but I don't know if 269 00:16:55.799 --> 00:16:58.360 it's a possible one. I don't think that they can 270 00:16:58.440 --> 00:17:00.679 do it. I mean, if I did you know that 271 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:03.720 we were just one or two years away from a 272 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:06.440 libtard panompicon, well, I'd probably be living in the woods 273 00:17:06.519 --> 00:17:10.400 Uncle Ted's style. I wouldn't be outdoing this. But clearly 274 00:17:10.400 --> 00:17:13.119 they're pushing for it because I don't think they have 275 00:17:13.240 --> 00:17:16.160 another alternative. I think that there is a sort of 276 00:17:16.160 --> 00:17:19.960 creeping realization that they're kind of, as the kids would say, 277 00:17:20.000 --> 00:17:23.720 kind of cooked, that that voted force, that feeling behind 278 00:17:23.759 --> 00:17:27.920 it is running out that no one believes in this 279 00:17:28.039 --> 00:17:32.079 thing in the same way that the immense head the 280 00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:37.759 tailwind they got from this explosion of cultural creativity, the 281 00:17:37.839 --> 00:17:41.920 sort of baseline brainwashing done by Hollywood and music that 282 00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:45.039 sort of laid the ground, It made straight the path, 283 00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:47.599 if you will. Well, it doesn't work in the same 284 00:17:47.640 --> 00:17:51.960 way either, due to again declining competence or simply kind 285 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:57.160 of overuse in oculation. The spell doesn't work anymore. The 286 00:17:57.200 --> 00:18:01.079 strategy that you adopted and that you abused for generations 287 00:18:01.839 --> 00:18:04.680 what isn't quite as cutting edge anymore. And then I 288 00:18:04.680 --> 00:18:08.200 guess is why I'm so interested in our right wing 289 00:18:08.240 --> 00:18:11.559 cultural output because to me, that says, this is something 290 00:18:11.599 --> 00:18:15.200 that's being born. There's something alive here, there's something that 291 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:20.000 is nacient, sure, but still exciting, still interesting, And so 292 00:18:20.079 --> 00:18:23.440 I don't know, man, it's hopeful in my mind that 293 00:18:23.519 --> 00:18:26.279 there is something alive here, a weak flame, maybe an 294 00:18:26.279 --> 00:18:29.960 ember even, but it's not ash. And to me it 295 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:33.240 seems as if they're left with ashes growing ever colder, 296 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:37.799 if you can forgive a slightly florid phrase. So yeah, 297 00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:39.599 it's something that I take a lot of hope in 298 00:18:39.920 --> 00:18:42.279 that I'm quite interested in. But I've been in the 299 00:18:42.279 --> 00:18:45.000 appen for long enough. Kick it over to this interview 300 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:48.039 with Rusty Cage guy. I'm really glad to have on. 301 00:18:48.279 --> 00:18:50.359 I like throwing in these sort of curveballs, you know, 302 00:18:50.400 --> 00:18:53.359 not the guys you expect. It's a fun interview. He's 303 00:18:53.400 --> 00:18:55.799 done good work. You should check out his most recent 304 00:18:55.880 --> 00:18:59.960 music video, Apac Money. No points for guessing what that's about. 305 00:19:01.440 --> 00:19:04.720 As far as my stuff, Jay Burton Show, Apple, Spotify, YouTube, 306 00:19:04.839 --> 00:19:07.079 anywhere you listen to podcast, you can find me there. 307 00:19:07.519 --> 00:19:09.160 If you want to support me, this is what I 308 00:19:09.200 --> 00:19:12.079 do a few bucks a month Patreon, substacker, com, Roade 309 00:19:12.559 --> 00:19:15.960 episodes early in ad free. Really appreciate it. Guys, couldn't 310 00:19:16.000 --> 00:19:19.240 do this without you and without further ado. Here's the show. 311 00:19:19.839 --> 00:19:22.200 All right, Rusty Cage, welcome to the Jay Burden Show. 312 00:19:22.200 --> 00:19:22.799 How you doing, man? 313 00:19:22.880 --> 00:19:25.359 Hello, very good, very good. It's good to be on 314 00:19:25.400 --> 00:19:25.839 the show. 315 00:19:26.400 --> 00:19:29.319 Yeah, man, I'm glad to have you on. You have 316 00:19:29.440 --> 00:19:32.680 been a victim of my just I'm gonna be honest, 317 00:19:33.079 --> 00:19:37.400 appalling ability to schedule and reply to dms sort of 318 00:19:37.480 --> 00:19:41.000 a miracle. You're here just due to my own inability 319 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:43.480 to manage my inbox. So thanks for bearing with me. Dude. 320 00:19:43.640 --> 00:19:47.759 No, man, it's the exact same. I feel bad replying 321 00:19:47.799 --> 00:19:51.319 to anyone one time because I feel like they're gonna 322 00:19:51.319 --> 00:19:53.960 follow up and then I'm just gonna miss that. So 323 00:19:54.000 --> 00:19:56.519 I opened a connection and instantly close in and say, 324 00:19:56.559 --> 00:19:58.839 all right, I'm not I guess we're not gonna collab. 325 00:19:59.440 --> 00:20:03.160 Whoever emailed me three months ago or whatever, dude. 326 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:08.480 Honestly, the unsolicited emails are some of my favorite. I 327 00:20:08.519 --> 00:20:10.640 never shared them because most of them are complete, like 328 00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:17.960 just trash. But there is a non licensed physician, an 329 00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:22.480 end time scholar, okay, who has been sending me PDFs 330 00:20:22.480 --> 00:20:25.799 of his books to review for like two years, and 331 00:20:25.839 --> 00:20:27.960 at this point I almost want to bring him on, 332 00:20:28.519 --> 00:20:30.839 but also I sort of feel like it would be 333 00:20:30.880 --> 00:20:35.279 taking advantage of this like clinically insane man to give 334 00:20:35.319 --> 00:20:38.480 him a platform. But I do read all his emails. 335 00:20:38.559 --> 00:20:42.079 So if you're listening, doctor whatever, if you are a doctor, 336 00:20:42.920 --> 00:20:45.680 keep sending them. I keep reading them. It's not gonna work, 337 00:20:45.759 --> 00:20:47.240 but I appreciate the gesture. 338 00:20:47.839 --> 00:20:49.599 It's good that you're taking the time to read them. 339 00:20:50.160 --> 00:20:53.039 I get a lot of Skitzo's in my emails, you know, 340 00:20:53.200 --> 00:20:58.079 sending either just long long lists of Bible quotes and 341 00:20:58.160 --> 00:21:01.200 talking about the angels of death and hmm, how to 342 00:21:01.440 --> 00:21:06.640 avoid Satan and whatnot. And I was thinking, you know, 343 00:21:06.680 --> 00:21:09.920 I wanted to make videos showing it off, but I 344 00:21:09.920 --> 00:21:13.839 think poking a schizophrenic with a stick is not necessarily 345 00:21:13.839 --> 00:21:15.720 the best thing to do, especially when you're a public 346 00:21:15.759 --> 00:21:18.599 figure that someone can easily find out where you live. 347 00:21:19.079 --> 00:21:24.039 Well, I mean to that point. Man, if you if 348 00:21:24.039 --> 00:21:27.599 you read comments, you will drive yourself insane. Yes, but 349 00:21:28.079 --> 00:21:32.720 there are a number of long term detractors that I 350 00:21:32.839 --> 00:21:36.559 genuinely love and find very funny. One of whom I 351 00:21:36.599 --> 00:21:39.119 will not be saying their screen name, but I think 352 00:21:39.240 --> 00:21:43.440 is a legitimate schizophrenic because he gives me like two 353 00:21:43.480 --> 00:21:47.720 to four pages of very thought out advice from the 354 00:21:47.759 --> 00:21:50.880 perspective of a lunatic. So he'll be like, hey, man, 355 00:21:51.160 --> 00:21:53.480 your script is pretty good for this episode, but I 356 00:21:53.519 --> 00:21:56.079 think you need to change this, this and this point. 357 00:21:56.759 --> 00:21:59.079 And I appreciate the thought. You know. It's like, all right, 358 00:21:59.119 --> 00:22:02.400 you're engaging. You know, that's certainly helpful, You're paying attention. 359 00:22:02.880 --> 00:22:04.559 But also I don't know how to break it to 360 00:22:04.640 --> 00:22:08.440 you that I am nowhere near the level of script 361 00:22:08.440 --> 00:22:11.559 writer you think I am, because my script is me 362 00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:14.640 sending someone a DM on Twitter and then kind of 363 00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:18.720 bsing for an hour. Right, there's no grand scheme, but 364 00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:22.039 I still do read as messages. But Rusty, obviously, I'm 365 00:22:22.079 --> 00:22:24.240 aware of who you are and what you do, but 366 00:22:24.440 --> 00:22:28.240 my audience might not be so well, who are you? Man? 367 00:22:28.880 --> 00:22:32.319 Well, at this point, i'd have to say that I'm 368 00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:35.839 a has been or never was, as they would say 369 00:22:35.880 --> 00:22:38.400 on the Internet. I mean, I've been on making content 370 00:22:38.440 --> 00:22:42.200 on YouTube and ship for fucking I don't know, sixteen 371 00:22:42.319 --> 00:22:47.319 years or so. I make a lot of music, some 372 00:22:47.400 --> 00:22:53.720 serious music, some parody, satirical music, but I don't know. Mainly, 373 00:22:53.759 --> 00:22:57.960 it's like I'm just trying to figure out every possible 374 00:22:58.000 --> 00:23:01.279 way that I cannot go back working a nine to 375 00:23:01.359 --> 00:23:04.559 five as an unskilled laborer. 376 00:23:05.240 --> 00:23:07.960 Yeah, man, I was having this. I was having this 377 00:23:08.039 --> 00:23:14.160 conversation recently with someone in my personal life. And look 378 00:23:14.240 --> 00:23:17.480 like I went to college for all the good that 379 00:23:17.519 --> 00:23:20.599 did me, And so we're having that conversation of like, yeah, 380 00:23:20.640 --> 00:23:24.000 whatever you're doing now sucks, but at least it's better 381 00:23:24.039 --> 00:23:28.640 than whatever that job is. And so what is your like, 382 00:23:28.839 --> 00:23:32.559 at least I'm not doing X like worst job you had. 383 00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:39.240 It's it's honestly working for a boss and knowing that 384 00:23:39.359 --> 00:23:42.799 your like an hour of your life is worth whatever 385 00:23:42.839 --> 00:23:46.599 they're paying you. I would rather make nothing doing nothing, 386 00:23:47.359 --> 00:23:50.400 but know that I could use that time to make 387 00:23:50.440 --> 00:23:53.359 something that I don't know could greatly benefit my life. 388 00:23:53.519 --> 00:23:57.079 It could make more money, could set me up to 389 00:23:57.319 --> 00:24:01.400 have income coming in later or whatever. I don't know. 390 00:24:01.519 --> 00:24:04.359 It's all about like trying to be free from a 391 00:24:04.480 --> 00:24:10.000 specific system. But I think that that dream of going 392 00:24:10.039 --> 00:24:13.880 the route of being an Internet influencer or whatever they 393 00:24:13.920 --> 00:24:18.000 call it now is kind of dying because that's the 394 00:24:18.640 --> 00:24:22.200 standard that all young people have to be a part 395 00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:25.359 of in every industry. You have to be in front 396 00:24:25.359 --> 00:24:29.079 of everyone's face constantly on all the apps, building up 397 00:24:29.119 --> 00:24:32.279 your Instagram and building up your TikTok, and that's the 398 00:24:32.319 --> 00:24:34.440 only way to get people to listen to a song 399 00:24:34.480 --> 00:24:37.519 that you just put out, so they stream it on Spotify. 400 00:24:38.400 --> 00:24:41.599 And it seems like it's a new version of wage 401 00:24:41.640 --> 00:24:45.240