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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome to a new episode of the Poker

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Go Podcast. My name is Donnie Peters, is eleven thirty

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pm on the Dot on Wednesday, May twenty seventh. I'll

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be quite honest with you guys up front. I debated

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for a good while, probably bounced it around in my

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head for a couple hours this evening on my drive

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home from down on the Strip at the World Series

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of Poker. You know, whether or not I wanted to

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record an episode tonight, you know, part of me said

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I need to do it. I want to do it.

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Part of me said, I don't know if there's enough there,

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and I don't want to force it, and and I

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do feel like I want to be honest and candid

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with you guys about how I feel about everything and

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going through the entire summer. Now it is only day

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two of the World Series of Poker. There hasn't really

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been a massive story yet shout out massive. There's been

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really no you know, controversies. There hasn't been any winners,

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you know, there hasn't been any like big bangs just yet,

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you know. But I also know that stuff is coming, right,

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you know. It's it's it's interesting because you know, I

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think I think part of it is that every single

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year the World Series of Poker seems like it gets

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here before we know it and kind of before we're ready,

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and then it's here and then we go and we

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dive in. But there is that bill, right, you know,

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people are still getting into town, the events are still

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ramped up, you know, like specific to this year, they

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haven't even done the big reveal for the new Grand

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Arena that's going to be the new set up there,

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you know, and I know that that's coming, so like

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I'm just trying to kind of ease into it without

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you know, going too crazy to start. So yeah, I mean,

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I just don't ever want to think that I'm forcing something, right,

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you know. But then I said, you know what, this

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is what the WACOP is, this is what we love

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about it. It's just here. It's awesome. The build you know,

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grows every single day, and then ultimately, you know, we

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get down to mid July and then it just it ends.

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It just gets taken away from us. And we all

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hate that feeling, you know, we want the we never

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want that to end, and then all of a sudden

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it ends. So you know, I do need to to

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feel some gratitude and and like, you know, cherish these

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these early, these early days of it all, you know,

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because that's part of it. It's not just the giant

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moments that take place, you know, on July twenty seventh,

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or during the main event or whatever it may be.

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The build up is part of it. And seeing the

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atmosphere change day by day when you are there on site,

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you're walking around, you're feeling it, and every single day

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that goes by, you feel it a little bit more.

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Right now, I know Monday wasn't officially anything, and I

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know we weren't on site at the World Series of Poker,

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but even being in the draft room at the Poker

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Growth Studio for the twenty five K Fantasy draft, that

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buzz starts to build. Then you go to the tournament

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setting the next day, the buzz builds a little bit

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more than today, even though it is only day two

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of the WSP, it's building even more. You know, you're

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getting you're starting to see a little bit more of

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the stuff happening, and you're at least my mind is

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kind of thinking like, Okay, that's potentially going to be

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a story, or that's potentially going to be a story,

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or there's some breadcrumbs there that could possibly, you know,

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be a little bit of a story. The rooms are

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slowly starting to fill up, you know, there's the emergence

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of different personalities, different characters, you know, old and new,

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the feeling of the entire poker world really just waking

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back up to being at the World Series of Poker

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once again. You know, it's kind of like how I

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would view poker players kind of wake up in the morning,

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you know, they roll over, they toss over, maybe they

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hit the snooze a couple of times. Eventually they're like,

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you know what, I might as well get down there.

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I know the tournament started at twelve, but I get

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that it's two thirty whatever, still a couple hours of

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late rege, so you know, I can get a couple

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of bullets in if I need to. That's kind of

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how I feel like I'm starting the WSOP this year.

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At the end of it all, I do want this

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podcast to ultimately reflect what we're feeling, what we're observing

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here at the World Series of Poker, Like I want

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these episodes to feel like those daily observations, and even

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on days when it feels a bit slower, and it

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feels like, hmm am I forcing things. You know, I

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think it's it's still all part of the big story, like,

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because without the small you can't have the big. So

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right now we're in the you know, the the build

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up era of it all. And it'll get there, of course.

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But also you know, today I got there a little

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bit late. I had a lot of things to take care

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this morning, you know, as it pertains to work. Don't

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know if you guys know, but we did drop a

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new season of High Stakes Poker, Season sixteen, first four

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episodes dropped. You guys can check that out on Poker Go.

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Kevin Hart is in the mix. He's battling with Sam Kekey.

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That's a lot of fun. Those guys just go total

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tone and go back and forth. As for the World

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Series of Poker, though, you know, you really started to

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feel it today, and I think it was probably due

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to the fact that the rooms were a bit more full.

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You know, you can walk around Paris and that energy

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it's a little bit more elevated, you know, in that

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main ballroom within Paris. You had day two of the

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five K playing a little bit closer to where that

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that arena is going to be. You had the fifteen

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hundred dollars Omaha High Low. That's always you know, a

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well tended event that was taking place. In the other

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area of the room. Of course, you had the cash

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games across the hall where you had the Champagne ballroom

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that was the old registration room in recent years, you know,

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that had the employees event running in it. And then

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at the other property, at the other venue over at Horseshoe,

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you had the Mini Mystery Millions Day one B taking place,

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so everything was a bit more full, and that's part

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of it. Also, you know, you really started to get

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some of these players and the personalities kind of starting

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to to pop up a little bit. And that's what

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I was getting out a little bit earlier when I said, Okay,

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like this is possibly a story or that's possibly a story,

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and I'll get into some of that in a little bit,

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but it does really feel like, you know, Okay, the

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summer is definitely underway. And I think also part of this,

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with the way that I'm feeling a little bit different

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this year than I think I might have in past years,

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is because I know on Friday we have this insane

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reveal for this new grand arena that is the dobis

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Api main stage set. I've seen the thing. It's freaking

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wildly awesome. Like I can't say how, I can't do

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it justice how awesome and insane that this thing is.

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And I can't wait for people to see it. And

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I can't wait for the energy from off of that

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stage to just resonate and be shot out like a

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freaking cannon into the room and for everyone just to

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be like, holy shit. I need to make it my

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goal this summer to go deep enough in a tournament

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that I make it there, Like that's the plan. So

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and like even today, like when I was checking it

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out a little bit, and you know, watching the team,

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you know, put the finishing touches on everything and get

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it going. You know, I was thinking in my mind

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in the events that I play, I'm like, man, I

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want to be up here as a player like that,

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that's what I want. I want. I want to and

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trying to visualize it. I'm trying to like kind of

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put it out there because I want it to happen,

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you know, I want to be up there, so I

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know that that's also still to come. And because I

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know that that's still to come. I'm kind of like

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waiting for it to get here. You know, these are

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kind of the days before Christmas, before before before the

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curtains dropping and everyone gets to see that thing. And

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then once that happens, you know, because that's going to

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happen on Friday. It's Wednesday, so you know, I mean

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it's two days from now, a day and a half

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an hour whatever. I mean, that's like, okay, we're here.

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It's buzzing'. It's the first weekend at the World Series

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of Poker this year, so you know, let's just freaking go. Now,

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all of that said and me talking about how the

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place felt, you know, a bit more lively, much more full,

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et cetera. I do have to talk once again about

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the numbers that we're starting to see, because even though

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it is only day two, I can't help but think

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maybe we're starting to see a little bit of a

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trend here. And I have had some conversations with some

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other people, you know, We've we've shared some thoughts, we've

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tossed around these numbers. I saw some conversation on social

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media today pointing to specifically the five k being down.

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You know, I touched on that on the last episode.

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But yeah, but these numbers. You know, one very interesting

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thing that I saw, as long as the sb Live

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app is correct, the Mini Mystery Millions Day one A

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had more entries than Day one B, sixteen thirty five

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on Day one A, fifteen sixty two on Day one B.

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it just builds builds builds, you know, progressively and somewhat exponentially.

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If you were to graph it out to that final

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starting day and the fact that it, I mean, for

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all intentsive purposes it stayed just even, but it did

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downtick a little bit, but you know, stayed a little

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bit even. That's that's a little bit like hmm interesting.

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You know again, I've always said this when I talk

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about the wsp MA and event, the WSPA man event numbers,

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is that, yes, the numbers may fluctuate up or down,

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and everyone's going to talk about them. We're going to

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talk about them, but at the end of the day,

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when you look at the total number that the thing

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spits out, it's it's likely going to be a very

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good number all things considered. Right, So even if this

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this mini mystery millions ends up with a smaller number

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than we might have expected. It's still going to be

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an enormous number. So let's not get lost, you know,

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in everything else. But I do think it is interesting,

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and I do think that, you know, part of it

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is just there's a lot of stuff catching up finally

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to the to the poker industry. You know, I think

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poker's been kind of on a high for a while,

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and you know, for lack of a better term, whistling

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past the graveyard, because I think there's a lot of

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stuff happening in the regular world. You know, a lot

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of prices for everything are high. Producer Rich shout out producer, which,

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by the way, you know, he's been busting his ass

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helping me with this podcast every single day. But you

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know he's like, gases six dollars a gallon milk? Is

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this like, you know, he's shooting me all the numbers.

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I mean, I get it. You know, like in the

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real world, it's it's tough, you know. I even I

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go to the grocery store and at the end of it,

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I wonder where the hell all my money went. So,

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you know, maybe maybe people do finally have fewer bucks

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to throw around on a poker turn, or maybe you

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know something that I'm not totally ruling out. Maybe it's like, listen,

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I don't want to play these earlier events because I'm

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saving it up for the main event, right, I mean

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I could certainly see that, you know, if you only

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have so much money to spend, and you got to

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be a little bit careful, a little bit more budget

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conscious for what you put where you put that that

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poker money, you know, I think you're going to fire

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it into the main event versus anything else. So just

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just something to I guess keep an eye on. You

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know that that five K did finish down as well,

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down from last year five seventy entries this year, six

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ninety three last year. The fifteen hundred dollars Omaha eight

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that got eight hundred and twenty eight entries this year.

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Last year had nine ten, So you know thing. And

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we also talked about the win event the other day

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or yesterday. You know that eleven hundred one million dollar

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guarantee missed by one hundred and seventy k. If you

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just throw all the rake in and put all the

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money towards the prize school, I think I saw Ryan

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Laplant on social media say that it's a like it's

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a it's a true guarantee, true overlay of sixty K.

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I think he had it at so, you know, but still,

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I mean, it's it just seems like, hmm, interesting, And

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I guess this is probably a good time for me

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to talk about another idea that's been building in my

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mind probably for the last year or so. And I

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can't recall if I talked about this on last summer's podcast,

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but I think that when when everyone is going in

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the same direction, that's not gonna allow everyone to win. Like, yeah,

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certain players are gonna win, when I mean a player,

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like an operator, That's what I'm getting out here. But

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everyone in poker seems to build their like summer schedules

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around these price points of like let's say six hundred

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dollars up to five k, like that that's what everyone

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really focuses on. And it's really six hundred dollars up

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to two k like in that range, you know, the wins,

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the Venetians, the Arias of the world, you know, and

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and they have to then compete with the juggernaut that

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is the World Series of Poker, or that is the

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biggest and the best, of course, but I just feel

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like there's I feel like there's a path or maybe

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a slight door opening for someone to go the complete

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other way and just put on an entire high roller series.

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Like I'm talking minimum buying twenty five k, have some

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twenty five ks, some fifty ks, that sort of stuff.

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And listen when I say this, I'm also looking at us,

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meaning poker Girl on the poker Gro tour, because I

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feel like we could do this, you know, in the

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poker Gro studio, turn it into a lounge type of

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atmosphere and just run these bigger buying events and make it,

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you know, more of like an exclusive memberships type of club,

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although it wouldn't be a club and it wouldn't be

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require a membership, it wouldn't be closed off, but have

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that luxury feel to it, right like, Oh, like that's

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the members only club over there, that's the country club.

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Oh how do I get in there? Oh I gotta

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have twenty five k oh, I gotta have fifty k oh.

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Oh that's interesting, you know. So so that like I

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feel like there's a there's a pathway for every time,

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every time somebody or a group of people or whatever

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are all going one direction. It's just my mind that

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I want to go the other direction, and that's in everything.

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So you know, maybe that's that's something to come in

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the future because you can only fight over you know,

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the one k players that population. There's only so many

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of those people to go around, and there's a lot

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of really good tournaments and venues on offer, but again,

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there's only so many players that can play all that

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sort of stuff. So if you're all trying to grab

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that same piece of the pie, I mean, I mean,

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it's just not gonna work out. So maybe think about

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going the other way. And I'm not saying to run

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one of those every single day, those high buying events,

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because I do think you need to be you have

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to pay attention to what the World Series is doing

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because that's again that's the biggest and the best, and

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then you kind of build it around that, right, So

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you know, I don't. I just thought that was an

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interesting thought that I had, And maybe maybe I'm just

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a total idiot when it comes to that. If you

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guys won't let me know if I'm an idiot or not,

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just you know, fire some tweets at me and I'm happy.

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I'm happy to engage with it on. But again, you know,

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just back to the numbers. I'm not gonna sit here

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and I'm gonna say that that the sky is falling.

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I think a lot of people, did, you know, expect

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numbers to be down a little bit this year compared

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to last year. You know, even if you just look

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again at the prediction markets out there, they do have

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they favor the numbers being down more so than up.

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So you know, of course, as always, it's only day two.

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We've seen this thing start on the slower side and

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then explode later, so you know, I'm not going to

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be too worried either way. The big story that that

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I'm I'm just starting to get through all of this

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is that the w SIP finally feels awake alive. Here

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it is maybe it's maybe we're at the point where,

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like you know, you're sitting up in bed and the

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WSP is like stretching its arms to the side and

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it's getting ready to get up and out of bed.

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But one person who is fully ready to go is

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mister Martin Cabrell. Like that this guy is He's off

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and running. The Martin Cabrell show has begun, it has started.

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It helps that he has a pile of chips at

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least right now at the time of recording. In the

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five K nolam at hold him. On day two deep

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into the money, last I checked, he was in fifth place.

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You know, obviously give or take based on the chip fluctuations,

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but with forty four players left. So I mean you

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and you hear it too. I mean, he's he's doing

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his whole thing, casino royale, talking to people. Oh, he's

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just waiting for kings, Oh, reading for races, you know,

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the whole like everything about him is happening. So, first

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of all, I don't think that this should surprise anyone,

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because Martin Cabrell is an incredible poker player, especially in

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you know, these kind of higher buying events. I would

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say a five K starts to get up there a

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little bit. You know, it's not quite a ten K,

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it's obviously not a twenty five K, but you know,

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you got to have a little bit going for you

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if you're going to start firing into these five k's

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at the WSP. He can absolutely play when he gets

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chips and he's feeling it and he's in the groove.

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He's frustrating to play against, for sure. He's also frustrating

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to deal with when he's when he's feeling himself and

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he's being the character that is Martin Cabrell. So all

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that sort of stuff, I feel like is just just

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makes him like a vacuum for the chips around him.

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I thought coming out of the twenty five K Fantasy

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draft that Martin's pro of sixty nine dollars was too low.

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That's to me, that's tremendous value. Now is he going

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to be firing every single tournament under the sun like

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Sean Deep is doing. No, the volume will be less,

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but Martin Carell is going to be at the World

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Series of Poker every single day. And last year I

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think he got a taste of the Player of the

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Year race. He was, you know, right up there contending

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like till the very end. And this year, if he

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can have some sort of really big success in this

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five K, now a deep run like this is great

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and he's making you know, two or three access money

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and all that sort of stuff. But obviously, for Martin Cabrell,

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it's about making final tables hundreds of thousands of dollars

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and winning bracelets, and if he's ultimately able to let's say,

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finish top five in this event or top three year

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or heck, when win the damn bracelet to start, I

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feel like he's going to be extra motivated to go

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on and really chase that player that here. Him and

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Sean deep have a nice, like friendly rivalry. I think

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they're friends and then they kind of, you know, go

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back and forth with each other about stuff. So, you know,

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being able to go toe to toe with Sean deeb

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throughout the Player of the Year race, that would be fun.

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I think for Martin as well, he's just somebody who

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he thrives in chaos. Yes, he is polarizing, of course,

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you know, I know he has both sides of him.

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There's the constant debate, you know, is Martin Carell good

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for poker? Is he good for poker? And people can

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kind of take both sides. I think I know where

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the large majority of you land on that, on that

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that idea, but you know, still, you know, I think

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that a character like this does bring a fair amount

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of eyeballs to the game and too what he's doing,

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and you know, I don't know, I feel like it's

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kind of it's kind of just one of those wacky

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things that that poker has that you ultimately just love

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about it is that these characters can be themselves and

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it just feeds into the entire whackiness of this whole industry. Now,

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at the same time, you also have another polarizing figure

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in the same event, also going deep with Martin Cabrell,

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and that is Maurice Hawkins. And he's still in and

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he's still doing well. And at when I'm looking at

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the app right now, it's eleven fifty one. There are

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thirty two players left. You got Cabrel right now in

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fifth place. You got sixth places Maurice Hawkins. Obviously, Maurice Hawkins,

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you know, has had his situations that he's had to

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deal with over the years. That said, on the Felt,

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he is the winningest WSB's Circuit player of all time.

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He's got twenty five gold rings. I mean, it's it's unbelievable,

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like all the stuff this guy goes through, how often

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he's in the news kind of fighting and bickering with people,

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but then when it comes down to playing and winning,

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like he seems to just do it on the Felt,

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which is crazy, but he's also still in so you know, earlier,

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you know when I said, like there's a story here

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that's happening, there's a story there that's happening. These are

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two of the stories that are starting to happen. You know,

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Martin Cabrell looking like he's picking up, picking up right

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where he left off last year. And then Maurice Hawkins

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despite all the stuff that's happened and all the noise,

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all the shit that people are yelling and screaming about him,

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like he's now going deep. So like, if those two

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make this final table and this thing ends up getting streamed,

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I mean, just just get your freaking popcorn ready. I mean, like,

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let's I mean, holy hell, I mean, that's just just wild.

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I mean, people are gonna be constantly debating them in

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the chat on social media. You know, each of them

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separately can become the story of any tournament that they

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run deep in, and now they're doing it together. I

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don't know if they're gonna like butt heads at all.

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I'm guessing yes, just because I know how they both

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act when they're in poker tournaments. So we'll see, just

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you know, something to keep an eye on here. Of course,

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we know how poker tournaments are. They could flame out

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in the next ten minutes. But you know, it's looking

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like these guys are primed to make a deep run.

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And then we know, when it comes to this game,

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how much early success in a long series like this,

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how much that can do for your confidence, your momentum,

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and ultimately the rest of your summer in terms of

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having you know, achievements and and success going forward. So

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just just keep an eye on that another uhh yeah,

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I mean I think he falls into the category of

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a polarizing figure. I know plenty of people that tell

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me that they can't stand his antics. I know other

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people that absolutely love it. That's the one and only,

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mister Phil Helmeth. He's officially back in the mix. He's

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firing everything, he's chasing. Bracelet number eighteen. He played the

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five k Nolan had hold him. He did fall short

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of the money in that one. He jumped into the

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fifteen hundred dollars Omaha High Low where when I left Paris,

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he was seated next to Vanessa Salps. A bit of

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a throwback between those two sitting next to each other.

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You know they're having a great time. They were chatting

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it up mostly Phil was chatting, of course, you know.

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But Phil's ready, He's ready to go. He's he's having

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a moment. And I saw that. He also posted on

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social media that he's seated right next to Nick Palma.

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Helmuth claims that Palma called him a pansy, said that

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Pauma said that he stinks, and and and Moore said

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that he's bad at poker or something like this, this

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whole thing. And then, according to Helmuth, Palma received a warning.

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Pauma's right next to him, like jumping in and out

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of the video. You guys can see this on Phil

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Helmy's Twitter account. One guy called me a pansy. It

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was me, Nick Palmer. NICKI. He told me he hates me.

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He told me I stink shouted in. It's true, It's

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it's true. They gave him, they gave him a warning.

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No more P word, no more P word. It's very

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interesting because I play it usually if I for a

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whole month before someone's out of line. Wait, hold on,

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only only Phil is allowed to be out of line.

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Only Phil could talk to people like this. No one else.

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Oh yeah, right, aren't you known for that? Or no,

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are you not known for that? Is he not known

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for that. I mean, in my line, let's see what

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the comments say. Put it up, put it on Twitter,

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Let's see what they say. It's just the whole thing

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is just crazy. And that comes just one day after

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you got Sean Deep going on Twitter saying that Palma

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threatened to spit on somebody on day one of the

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of the five K. So another thing is like, are

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we is this about to be the summer of Nick Palma?

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I mean, I mean, this guy, so, Nick Palma is

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He's he's always he's always out there, he's always making

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some noise, he's always talking. He's extremely confident. You know,

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he carries he carries an enormous amount of confidence to

471
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the point where you think he's overly boisterous. You might

472
00:25:58,759 --> 00:26:04,160
think he's cocky, but I don't know. I kind of

473
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,440
love it the character that he is. I love all

474
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,799
these wacky characters in this freaking game. He's also quite

475
00:26:10,839 --> 00:26:14,319
a bit of a lone wolf Palma. I mean, maybe

476
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,240
I have that wrong, but like every time I see him,

477
00:26:16,279 --> 00:26:18,839
he's just he's just doing his own thing. He's marching

478
00:26:18,839 --> 00:26:21,200
to the beat of his own drum, and that's just

479
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,759
who he is. He doesn't give a shit what people

480
00:26:22,759 --> 00:26:25,319
think about him, and he says what he thinks and

481
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,960
what he believes, and he puts it out there. I

482
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,799
think he's pretty comfortable being viewed how he is. He'll

483
00:26:31,799 --> 00:26:35,200
certainly be combative at times with people, but you know,

484
00:26:35,319 --> 00:26:38,200
poker is great for that. The game has always had

485
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,119
personalities like that. Somebody like him, I think is extremely colorful.

486
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,680
I'm glued to Nick Palm my content this summer. I posted,

487
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,119
I reposted one of his videos from this morning. I said,

488
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:50,640
this might be the best follow you guys can have

489
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,599
all summer. I do believe that, because I mean, let's

490
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,759
just ride the wave up, down, left, right, whatever, Let's

491
00:26:56,799 --> 00:26:59,000
just ride the Nick Palm a wave. You know, he

492
00:26:59,039 --> 00:27:01,960
talked in one of his recent videos about going through

493
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,279
some adversity in life and having to bounce back from

494
00:27:04,279 --> 00:27:07,160
difficult situations. He didn't really go into detail, but I

495
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,200
will say that that's the type of person that he is.

496
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,319
You know, he just he's got that chip on the

497
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,480
shoulder type of energy. And he believe he won a

498
00:27:15,519 --> 00:27:23,519
bracelet last fall online. But I mean, I think he

499
00:27:23,599 --> 00:27:25,920
wants a live bracelet. He wants success. I think he

500
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,880
got third place in a fifteen hundred, maybe a six

501
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,519
inund I don't remember. It was maybe a year or

502
00:27:31,559 --> 00:27:34,279
two ago live at the World Series of Poker, and

503
00:27:34,279 --> 00:27:36,640
I remember he was like, you know, oh man so close,

504
00:27:36,759 --> 00:27:39,200
Like that was my shot, But I'll be back, all

505
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,559
that sort of stuff. I mean, he definitely cares. He's

506
00:27:42,599 --> 00:27:47,799
definitely up there in the heart rankings, and I think

507
00:27:47,839 --> 00:27:51,000
he ultimately wants to prove himself and put himself out there.

508
00:27:51,079 --> 00:27:54,680
He's just I don't know, he's just a fun, crazy character.

509
00:27:55,079 --> 00:27:57,680
I do hope that I can get him on this podcast.

510
00:27:57,799 --> 00:27:59,319
I do want to sit down and like learn a

511
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,359
little bit more out him. Hear how he ticks. Let

512
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,640
you guys learn a bit about him as well. You know, again,

513
00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:09,279
the whole thing is just my love for the industry

514
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,680
is rooted in the characters that are in this industry,

515
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,400
and there's a lot of there's a lot of fun ones.

516
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,000
So you know, we'll see if we can get a

517
00:28:19,039 --> 00:28:24,039
mister Nicki p on the podcast. At some point this summer.

518
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,480
We got Martin Cabrell starting to make some noise. We

519
00:28:27,599 --> 00:28:30,359
got Maurice Hawkins starting to make some noise. Also interesting

520
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,519
about Maurice is that while he does have all this success,

521
00:28:33,559 --> 00:28:35,759
he has all these gold rings on the WSP circuit

522
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,200
hasn't had that same type of success when it comes

523
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:40,640
to the World Series of Poker. You know, you could

524
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,480
say the same thing about Phil Helmuth. You know, he's

525
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:47,279
somebody who's had the bracelet success, but like he doesn't

526
00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:49,000
have a World Poker Tour title, you know, or some

527
00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:51,400
of this other stuff. So it's just interesting how these

528
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,359
players all seem to kind of find their own path

529
00:28:54,799 --> 00:28:58,000
and then really focus and have a lot of success

530
00:28:58,079 --> 00:29:00,519
down that one singular path. Of course, that could just

531
00:29:00,559 --> 00:29:03,480
be you know, some luck invariance and how it all

532
00:29:03,519 --> 00:29:07,200
breaks and then the numbers thing. I think, you know,

533
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,160
it's just something we gotta do. Just just keep an

534
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,000
eye on, just keep an eye on. So yeah, I

535
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,680
think overall, the WACIP is really starting to build. I

536
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,920
know I talked at the beginning of this episode about

537
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,160
how I didn't know if I was going to do

538
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,680
this episode, but now I'm happy that I did, because

539
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,519
I don't know, it's it's it's almost here. Like the

540
00:29:30,759 --> 00:29:33,519
what I mean by almost here, the full energy is

541
00:29:33,599 --> 00:29:36,880
almost freaking here, and I'm freaking ready for another thing.

542
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,720
I want to shout out just real quickly. Is David

543
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:46,119
Odib Baker the deadline for odb Fantasy League was today?

544
00:29:46,759 --> 00:29:49,200
I know, I believe he said one pm was the

545
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,920
deadline today or yesterday if you're listening to this on Thursday,

546
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,720
of course, and then people can still you know, find

547
00:29:56,799 --> 00:29:59,200
him and give them their money. A couple of things there.

548
00:29:59,279 --> 00:30:00,920
One I have I have no idea how this guy

549
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:05,880
stays so focused on actually playing poker when every four

550
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,079
minutes he has somebody coming up to him and giving

551
00:30:08,119 --> 00:30:11,079
him money for his fantasy league, and then he's got

552
00:30:11,119 --> 00:30:13,480
to go into his phone, check off the person's name,

553
00:30:13,559 --> 00:30:15,559
make sure that they're paid, like you know, all that

554
00:30:15,599 --> 00:30:17,319
sort of stuff. That just seems like way too much

555
00:30:17,359 --> 00:30:21,759
of a hassle. Yet Odib seems to be locked in

556
00:30:21,799 --> 00:30:24,240
and pretty focused in every single tournament that he played.

557
00:30:24,279 --> 00:30:30,240
He did cash the five K no limits on day two,

558
00:30:30,359 --> 00:30:33,200
so you know he's already off to a decent start

559
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,400
to his summer. I don't know how he does it

560
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,519
in terms of that. Obviously that goes away within a

561
00:30:37,559 --> 00:30:39,799
few days, but to get started like that seems to

562
00:30:39,839 --> 00:30:42,640
bit crazy. Second to that, I think he also said

563
00:30:42,759 --> 00:30:46,519
somewhere that his fantasy league is breaking a record. He

564
00:30:46,559 --> 00:30:48,839
saw the early numbers and he was blown away. So

565
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,680
that's incredible. So, you know, we can talk about numbers

566
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,960
kind of being down for some of these actual tournaments here,

567
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,319
but it seems like that number. I mean, the twenty

568
00:30:58,319 --> 00:31:01,079
five K Fantasy we already mentioned and how it got

569
00:31:01,119 --> 00:31:02,880
the same twenty four entries this year that it got

570
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,960
last year. I was very surprised by that, pleasantly surprised.

571
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,319
That's awesome. And then this ODIB Fantasy League, you know,

572
00:31:09,359 --> 00:31:12,279
if it does blow away last year's number, based on

573
00:31:12,319 --> 00:31:14,440
what Odib was saying, it sounds like that's the case,

574
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:19,160
that is also incredible. So put it all together, I

575
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,880
think the but the appetite for poker is still extremely healthy.

576
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,039
Numbers are always going to fluctuate in tournaments. That just

577
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,480
is what it is. But it's early in the summer

578
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,920
and we have a very long summer ahead of us,

579
00:31:33,079 --> 00:31:36,680
so I'm looking forward to it all. I guess I'm

580
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,880
just gonna say this is gonna be the summer of

581
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,640
Nick Palmer. That's what I think is going to happen.

582
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,359
You know, we had several years ago, we had the

583
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,160
whole Will Casoof thing, and then that you know, came

584
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:52,039
back last year as well. We also had the past

585
00:31:52,039 --> 00:31:54,880
two years really the Martin Cabell Show, you know, really

586
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,519
coming up. And maybe this is just the summer of

587
00:31:57,599 --> 00:32:00,920
Nick Palma. Maybe he's that crazy, wacky person and that

588
00:32:01,119 --> 00:32:04,640
you know, gets ten times the popularity and ten times

589
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,839
the following and notoriety that he once had. I don't know,

590
00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:10,960
but you know we're here. We're here every day, and

591
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,240
we're gonna find out. That's gonna do it for me.

592
00:32:14,519 --> 00:32:17,160
It is just past midnight. I appreciate you guys for

593
00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:22,880
rolling with me once again. Going forward, we're still waiting

594
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,000
to get set up in our official area where we're

595
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,960
gonna be able to sit down, put our podcast mics,

596
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,160
do all that sort of stuff, likely gonna you know,

597
00:32:32,279 --> 00:32:35,160
kick off the video portion of the podcast. I know

598
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,759
we did have a lot of people that did watch

599
00:32:36,799 --> 00:32:40,039
on YouTube in past summers that that is coming. You know,

600
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,880
we just need to get our areas set up for

601
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,759
right now for these early days. Well, while that whole big,

602
00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:49,720
giant ass new awesome set is getting set up, our

603
00:32:49,799 --> 00:32:52,319
area is not set up. So we're just we're waiting

604
00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:54,440
for that to happen. So so it might be Tomorrow,

605
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,599
might be Friday, might be Saturday. I don't know it's

606
00:32:57,599 --> 00:33:01,000
coming eventually, but you know, the more important thing is

607
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,640
getting that set ready to go for Friday's big reveal,

608
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,920
of course, and then we'll ramp things up here on

609
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,000
the podcast as we go. But as always, I appreciate

610
00:33:11,039 --> 00:33:13,720
you guys for tuning in. Don't forget to like, subscribe, rate,

611
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,599
and review all that good stuff wherever you listen to

612
00:33:16,599 --> 00:33:20,359
your podcast, and tell your Dan friends about this show.

613
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,559
All right, boys and girls, I will talk to you

614
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:24,160
next time.