Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice
mix in some vodka colored a podcast from the Mac
of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by Victor
Chrysler Dots. Gee Ram, It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.
Speaker 2: Well, hello and welcome Bill's Mafia. Oh we're feeling good.
The Bills are off to the best start since the
early nineties at eight and two.
Speaker 3: Right, yes, since the Kelly years, since the Kelly years.
Speaker 2: This feels good. Josh Allen had his longest scramble of
the year, a twenty one yarder, and he took off.
Speaker 4: It looked pretty good.
Speaker 2: You know, I know, I know you're gonna give you
all the reasons to feel bad. But they won thirty
to twenty. So why am I gonna listen to you? Why?
Why bring me down?
Speaker 3: Today?
Speaker 2: You have to today. The NFL today is packing up
the entire crew and they're going to do the pregame
broadcast for CBS from high Mark Stadium in anticipation of
the Bills Chiefs next week. The Chiefs, on a very
lucky play, are now nine and Oh.
Speaker 3: They had like eighteen guys block of that field goal.
Speaker 2: They went out there, they did it.
Speaker 3: Good for them?
Speaker 2: It wins a win, right, win, win a win. That
is the voice of Shortia. And if anybody saw it
ever spelled, they am I wrong. It's a Gaelic, isn't it.
That's correct. Yeah, it's a farmer in English.
Speaker 4: It does.
Speaker 2: Okay, Because so I have three sons and my oldest
son has been studying Gaelic and he lives down in
Staten Island now and he's going to the Irish Center.
I don't know what burrow that's in, but he's going
to take Gaelic class.
Speaker 5: That's wonderful because you know, in recent times it seems
to be a language is almost dying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2: So it's really good to see it now on like
dual lingo and stuff. Yeah, due lingo. That's where he
was taking it, and then he wanted to go taking
a person. I will tell you that a local high
school here does offer Gaelic as an elective. Oh wow, yeah,
McQuaid for regents. That's pretty cool. No, it's uh no,
I don't believe for regions because they don't they don't
have regions in McQuaid.
Speaker 3: You don't. Oh no, they're they're cool.
Speaker 4: They don't have. It's not New York state, that's right.
Speaker 6: You know, we're at a higher level than New York.
We're like McDonald's with the potatoes, our potatoes.
Speaker 2: Let me just say something that may they may be,
they may be.
Speaker 3: I've said this in a podcast.
Speaker 6: I know McQuaid kids, I know Carnie kids, I know
Finny kids, I know Acquian's kids.
Speaker 3: And the only people I have ever had a problem
with her from Aquinas the only ones. Everybody else is cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you speak any Gaelic at all?
Speaker 4: Unfortunately?
Speaker 2: Very little?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's I speak fluent Portuguese, okay, only
because well you can get into the.
Speaker 2: House the fluent Portuguese.
Speaker 5: So I know fluent Brazilian Portuguese, which is slightly different
than Portuguese from Portugo or Angola or anything like that.
But I'm what's called near native, so it's better than fluent.
So when I speak Portuguese, a lot of people think, oh,
where are you from Brazil?
Speaker 2: That's uh, that's SHORTIA SHORTIA is uh eight year Special Operations.
And I don't know what J two HQ is because
Danny sent me J two h Q and I couldn't
figure out.
Speaker 5: What that was well, I guess in a broader sense
of the word, J two is more like your guys' homeland,
so like anything that interests, anything of national interest. And
then HQ is more expansive. So any J two operations
that we were involved in would be homeland. That would
be you know, I don't want to use the word spine,
but you know, keeping an eye on.
Speaker 4: People like the I RA or the I R n
l A or all.
Speaker 5: There's different types of variations. A lot of drug trafficking
and people trafficking on the border, on the border between
Northern Ireland, and I.
Speaker 4: Didn't realize there was Yeah, human.
Speaker 2: Trafficking, Yes, there is a lot of kids.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And then h Q is more of a broader sense
of the term is where units, specialized units would go overseas.
Almost in a jasof operation was a joint special operations.
So I worked a lot with Americans, Australians, English, French,
you name it.
Speaker 4: That's interesting.
Speaker 2: Uh, well, let's let's let's go back. I I got
a whole I want to ask them all the questions,
all the.
Speaker 4: Questions, you know, but we'll start with but we'll start
about his hotel.
Speaker 2: The only Gaaleic I knew was my was my grandfather was.
I would always say I think it was Poke mahole,
painted my ass.
Speaker 4: Or kiss my kiss, kiss, That's what was pokem mahole.
Speaker 2: He used to always tell me go in there and
say pokemohoon.
Speaker 5: So you could say this Misha, which is I I am?
I am named? You know is Misha shore Chauvelin on?
Call this Adam dumb So mine I am named Shoria Brennan.
Speaker 4: What are you named?
Speaker 3: William? Right?
Speaker 4: So it's Misha William the animal.
Speaker 2: Well, actually, you know what's funny is like in Ireland
Moran is morn right what Moran?
Speaker 4: Oh Lauren?
Speaker 2: And you almost like you know, my mom's Dolan and
she would be Dolan over here. Her maiden name is Dolan.
But when we came it's not Moran, it's Moran over here. Right, Yeah,
that's it's it's a little strange. So where in Ireland
do you do you hatch on the planet?
Speaker 4: So I was born.
Speaker 5: In Dublin, but I was raised in a very small
town called Arklo. It's only got about six thousand well
now it's got fourteen thousand people in it. But when
I was a kid, there was only six thousand and
Dublin was about forty five fifty minute drug.
Speaker 2: Well you're sort of a suburb then of Dublin, right, yeah, right,
if you compare it to America, sure, yeah, I mean
someone you could walk from one side of the other,
you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, in our own you're fine.
Speaker 5: It's four hour drive from one side to the next, right,
so it's tiny, you know. But at even today, there's
no hospital in my village. So if you're in well,
if you're in labor today, you'll go by ambulance. But
back in the day, you have to go by.
Speaker 2: Train, by train in labor. How's to the hospital? When
when you when you say back in the day.
Speaker 5: Back in the seventies and eighties, really that's crazy to me,
which is what my mom did.
Speaker 2: She got on a train in labor. In labor, nobody
had a car to drive, I guess.
Speaker 4: No. Wow, Yeah, what did your father do? He was
a carpenter. He's a master carpenter. Yeah, master.
Speaker 2: Well he's retired, but yes, and what what what about mom?
Did she work?
Speaker 5: Well, she was young when she had me, so she
was still in school.
Speaker 4: She was still in like high school. Yep.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Now see you and your mom grew up together.
Speaker 4: I mean basically, yeah.
Speaker 2: So then so you grow up, then what happens? Because
Ireland doesn't have guns. I don't even think the police
carry guns.
Speaker 5: Correct, they have good you can get Yes, we do.
That's a common misconception.
Speaker 4: Or okay, you know.
Speaker 5: So in Ireland they have a thing where you can
either have a hunting license or a sporting license. Now
you don't have a concealed carry license unless you're a
detective or something like that. But you can get a
license for any gun you want, for any caliber you want,
including suppressors.
Speaker 2: It's very easy. It's like a two step process, easier
than here. Yeah, basically, well New York State, right.
Speaker 5: Caveat caveat New York State. So you can you can't.
So if you go to the range, you have to
have it unloaded in your trunk and blah blah blah, et.
Speaker 2: Cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 4: But you can have guns.
Speaker 2: Yes, so you you you graduate from high school?
Speaker 5: Yep, So I graduated from high school. I completed an
associate's degree in business management. Didn't really know what I
wanted to do with my life, and I opened a
Sunday newspaper and I saw a recruitment drive for the
army and said that looks cool. So you joined the
Irish the Irish Army, right, okay, as an infantry meant
at that time?
Speaker 4: Okay, and what year was this? I was back in
two thousand, two thousands, so you're okay.
Speaker 5: And basic training six months there, okay, Wow, Yeah, it's
a long time.
Speaker 2: I think it feels like two years.
Speaker 6: But I think the Marines is like eleven weeks, yeah,
or maybe like sixteen, but I mean that's still like
like six months is a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And then at the end of that six months, it's
almost like your NCO, your non commissioned officer. You'll be
a private, and then your non commissioned officer will be
like Bill Cavalry Dan whatever, you know, amphibious.
Speaker 3: Her journal is amphibious, I can't swim or whatever.
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, And so myself and a couple of other
guys were chosen to be reconeers, which is reconnaissance. There's
two types of reconnaissance. There's amphibious reconnaissance and there's your
regular reconeers who rock over mountains.
Speaker 4: Basically, what were you rockover mountains?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, So do you end up in Afghanistan or anymore.
Speaker 4: I wasn't in No, I was in mostly Africa.
Speaker 2: Africa, I have why Africa?
Speaker 4: What? What? What's Irish? Irish? So because it's it's so okay,
it's joint with probably who.
Speaker 5: Exactly what I was going to say, Like I said,
it's the Joint Operations. So because it's a part of
the European Rapid Reaction Force. I think they changed their
name now to something like the European Battle Group or
something like that, it's it's a jaysuck unit. So what
would happen is there's like this overall, you know, let's
say theme or interest will call it, and various governments
will send their special units to that area to perform
a specific task. What that task is depends on the mission.
Speaker 4: Okay. So our mission was reconnaissance, which is basically information gathering. Yeah,
so you're like a spy.
Speaker 5: Not really, it's not the it's not the same, Okay,
It's not like the series.
Speaker 2: More like when you say, than reconnaissance, are you going
out to get the lay of the land of right thing?
Speaker 4: So we would probably right.
Speaker 5: So if you're talking about your typical mission, you would
probably be dropped off fifty miles away from your your
observation point, and you'd have to rook over the mountain
reach your you know, you would mark rendezvous, so you'd
say we'rend view one.
Speaker 2: So something happens and you come back.
Speaker 5: Here, you go for another whatever twenty five miles you
say rendezvous to your market on your GPS or your map,
whatever you're using, so you'll always know that if something
happens and someone just you know, does a signal, you
know where to go if you get split up, so
you'll eventually reach your forward operating point, your operations point,
and at that point, depending on the mission, it could
be to take photographs of an installation, an installation of
of a of a building with you know, who knows
who right or who knows what. A lot of the
times we would have to go with a long range
rifle just in case. Now we're not there to engage,
we're there to observe, report, return, hand it over. There
was some engagements, we'll say, oh yeah, we'll say that
with whom I lost somebodies, so Eritrea and Ethiopia, and
it's in if you look it up now in the news.
They're trying to work it out where you know, we
want to go back into talks because we want to
use the harbor. So I don't remember if it's it's Ethiopia,
it's landlocked. And they asked Eritrea if they could use
their port. They said no. Eight hundred thousand people died
on the front, eight hundred thousand at the same time
the Twin Towers fell, So nobody was interested in that.
Everybody was watching the Twin Towers. So while iOS were
over here, you had almost a million people die over here. Yeah,
and so it wasn't really of public interest. You know,
Twin Towers is of course devastating, and of course you know,
deserved all the attention.
Speaker 2: So how does this eight hundred thousand die, I mean,
that's a huge number. So they so.
Speaker 5: Ethiope said no, and they went to the front and
they just had massive cannons and they would just volley
after volley after volley after volley, and eventually the numbers
racked up to almost a million people.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 5: So then the United Nations at that point was Kofi ann.
We went, we went there and we basically went into
enemy territory and you know, observed report and went back
with that information. A lot of the times, Like I said,
we would have unwanted engagements, sure, because at some point
you're going to be seen. Well, yeah, it's difficult not
to be seen.
Speaker 2: I would think it's almost I don't know what the
terrain is like, I would assume desert, like, no.
Speaker 5: It's mountainous. Yeah, it has some cacti. Yeah, it has
some grass, but not too much, so it's very hard
to blend in.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking almost like parts of the Rockies which you
get up into and it's desert climate or lass, it's
desert shrubbery, it's desert growth.
Speaker 5: You're talking one hundred and tendre in a day. Yeah,
the minute the sun goes down below the horizon zero.
Speaker 2: Zero like that, are we talking celsius or fahrenheits heero
fahrenheit fahrenheit zero?
Speaker 5: Oh, instantly, that's crazy, instantly, Yeah, And.
Speaker 4: Then the minute the sun would rise up again instantly.
Speaker 2: So close to the equator. That's weird though, that it
would drop that much. It doesn't hold, doesn't hold anything.
That's wonder your breadth straight away wow, oh yeah wow.
Speaker 4: And you had to camp out in these conditions and.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it depends on what was going on at the time.
A lot of the times it would be a few days.
Sometimes it could be weeks.
Speaker 2: So how how long did you do this?
Speaker 5: So the first deployment in Eric Trey in Africa or
Eric Chanding Ethiopia, I should say that was a year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you were over in Africa for a year.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you can do six months and then you
have to re sign if you want to stay for
another six months. Okay, So they contracted six months and
then they said you want to do another one. You
can say yes or no. The maximum you can do
in one area is a year?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 2: Why why the only racy the only Well the reason
I ask is sometimes wouldn't you want people who know
the terrain and you're the area better in the right bureaucracy? Yeah,
it was always my thing with like even nom where
they would pull guys out after you. I mean they
were the ones who survived. I knew how to do it.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of a lot of strange decision making
in the in the upper echelon.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But and I wonder too, like what the psychological impact
of that is. Do they see on a more mass
scale that the psychological impact is such that we need
to probably let these guys go six months, maybe take
a breather. Yeah, I don't know. I've never been in
the army. I'm just thinking since that way, Wow, so
you do that for an entire year?
Speaker 4: What kind of shots and things do they like?
Speaker 2: If anybody goes like I think my mom went on
an African safari, right, and had to get a whole
bunch of I don't know, typhoid fever, malaria, right, I mean,
isn't there So.
Speaker 4: It's before we were deployed.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we got two shots on both inner ties. Yeah,
two shots in their shoulders. We asked what they were
and they were told, don't ask.
Speaker 2: Shut up seriously.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 5: And then every Monday, Yeah, we would take anti millaria
pill called Larry And a lot of larium is being
under investigation right now for what because a lot of
people who took larium when we'll use the word insane
because I don't know, you know what political term you
could use.
Speaker 2: Gets effective, who knows.
Speaker 5: And they were institution institutionalized, they would be they would
be in hospital forever because they would lose their minds
on this message.
Speaker 2: So this was because and you had to take this
weekly every Monday.
Speaker 4: Yeah, are they?
Speaker 2: They're obviously not still handing that out. That must be something.
So have you had any ill effects?
Speaker 4: A lot of people don't.
Speaker 5: I think it depends on your body choustry, yeah, your
makeup and your brain and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: I mean it's the same with people.
Speaker 2: The purpose to everything, Jesus Christ. Just drink irish are
and previous is what I'm saying. Is yeah, I mean
they get the immune system of a sewer rat all that, right,
you know?
Speaker 4: I just Innos and a couple of Jameson's.
Speaker 5: Well, I could drink six gin us right now and
I'd stay awake all night, all night. It has an
opposite effect.
Speaker 2: It's a weird thing. The ultimate warrior now, I just like,
I just I either like the draft, and I know
it's different in Ireland it is, but I like the
draft or from the can that's the closest thing I
can get to the draft. I don't like the bottle
and it doesn't taste as good to me, but I
could drink eight or nine.
Speaker 4: Of those and still be okay for a while, right yeah.
Speaker 5: And I love it as the best, but the best
still not quite there and I don't know why.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder what that is.
Speaker 2: I think the headquarters is in like Maryland or something here.
Speaker 4: There's somewhere in.
Speaker 2: The Baltimore area, I thought. But anyway, that aside, So
you do all this and you're over in Africa, you
do after the year, you're you're out of there, but
still in right.
Speaker 5: So, because we're part of the European rapid reaction for us,
we have to be ready on a twenty four hour notice.
And there's what's called green and black.
Speaker 4: So which one's badass?
Speaker 2: They're both, they're both there. They're both cowboys.
Speaker 4: Cowboys.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So usually so you would have your stuff in
the trunk of your car or your cage back at
the barracks.
Speaker 2: Depends on what you prefer.
Speaker 5: You would be told, you know, get ready, we're doing
a black mission. You know, you have to be at
headquarters and so many you know, minutes or hours or whatever.
Now black would be something urban or what we used
to call phibua fighting and built up areas, not CQB
that's inside rooms, so larger than that. So you've got CQB,
you've got PHIBA. Now fighting and built up areas is
urban combat. That's very difficult because if you think about
it right now in Syria it's Phibua. You're talking and
destroyed buildings and cracks of rounds going over your head
and you have no idea.
Speaker 2: Where they're coming from.
Speaker 5: Right, So it's very difficult to identify where fire is
coming from. That's Fiboa. That's very difficult, Yes, very difficult terrain.
Like I said, to identify where the shots coming from,
I don't know, and take cover not concealment, because they're different.
It's it's hard. And so that's a black mission what
they would call it. And then the Green mission would
be something in the mountains or something, you know, something
where you would have to use DPM, which is disruptive
pattern material. That's the fancy word for CAMO. So you
would have to use some DPM material. Depending on what
type of terrain you're going to will depend on what
type of DPM you're using.
Speaker 4: That's really interesting.
Speaker 2: So I think what I'm hearing as you're talking about this,
or what I'm thinking is, boy, we don't know what
goes on around the world. Absolutely, you know, I did
not know about eight hundred thousand At the same time,
no Ah.
Speaker 4: Why would you?
Speaker 2: I guess you're right. I feel like now we maybe
we would a little bit more because the Internet is
more prolific and people have it and the information gets
out a little quicker.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you that is I mean being in America,
Like is that a good thing for us or a
bad thing for us? Or is it both?
Speaker 6: Meaning like you know, we're so sheltered to protect it
at the same time, should we know these things that
are going on?
Speaker 3: Or are we better off not knowing? It? Is ignorance
bliss Bliss.
Speaker 5: I think you know things that directly impact the United States,
such as Ukraine and Russia. Yeah, North Korea blowing up
all their you know, exits and entries ways between the
South and North.
Speaker 4: You know that kind of stuff.
Speaker 5: Or Taiwan right now is kind of like if he
you know, there's a lot of Russian battleships going into
the Red Sea or submarines off the coast of Alaska.
That's very important to know because you don't want to
wake up with black.
Speaker 2: You know, as coming into your window. What's that and
you're blind?
Speaker 4: Right little?
Speaker 2: Did you know it was a nuke? Right?
Speaker 5: So now I don't believe that's going to happen. I
think that's a fairy tale or like a doomsday you
know fantasy, you know where they're like getting off on
you know, doom porn or whatever. But I do think
that knowing current let's say, geopolitical iffiness around the world
that directly impacts America is very important to know. Now
that could be anything, that could be anywhere.
Speaker 4: Right, Israel and Iran? Right, Yeah, that was very important
to know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but when you were doing all this stuff, like
would they just drop you in so within twenty four
hours you could be sent into let's say, could you
even be in Barcelona? Sure? Yeah, what I mean any
city that ye? Yeah, absolutely? And who is the primary
I'll call it the enemy? Who's a primary enemy? I
would assume terrorism absolutely.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So if you remember back in the day when the
place in Paris that was set on fire, yeah, Notre Dame.
So Notre Dame was set on fire was obviously at it.
Speaker 2: Was undirected, it was under renovation, so there was a
lot of wood exploded. Well most of it's made of
wood anyway, but I thought there was under renovation too,
and so it made it easier to get up into
the If you if.
Speaker 4: You look at some videos, you know, conspiracy or otherwise.
If you look at.
Speaker 5: Them, you can see some interesting individuals walking around on
top of there, and that kind of stuff would be,
you know, something where we would get deployed. Now I
say we, it's a team of two hundred, So they'll
choose ten or twenty from every country and create this
kind of battle group to make a European army if
you want to call it that, right, they've been talking
about that for years. They want to make it bigger.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a European army, more of a joint European army, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because every country has a different you know, capacity, capability,
or they're very specialized. Like the Norwegians are fantastic when
it comes to snow.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, right, and you can see
him on absolutely which sounds funny, but you're right as
the terrain they're used to. Absolutely.
Speaker 6: Yeah, going to a Bills game in the parking lot, Yeah,
they get right, exactly, Mustard, the ketch up, the snowballs,
they got it all.
Speaker 2: So how many years do you do in this before
you leave or retire?
Speaker 4: Eight years in total?
Speaker 2: You did eight years in total and then you retire.
Why honorably discharged honorably discharged injured.
Speaker 5: No honorably discharge of my own according You're good, You're
just like, yeah, I'm done.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Okay, So you do a five year contract and you
do too to to to to to.
Speaker 2: You can never do.
Speaker 4: Five five five five fight, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'll bring this up to Unfortunately we do
not have a v A.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they got to do something for these guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's bad.
Speaker 5: It's like you kind of feel like there should be
something and there really isn't, and it's like, why why
don't we have that? I mean, there are guys out
there a PTSD, right, I mean you know, it's like
we never you know, it's funny damaged hearing or something
and from the military.
Speaker 2: Sure, and they deserve We certainly talked about that in
the United States. I've never really thought about other countries.
I guess I just assumed it was there. But I
watched the Arnold Schwarzenegger documentary and he talked about his
father being you know, and they were defeated. It was
austri Yeah, and Austria was defeated in the war, and
how angry and drunk and these guys and how that
psychologically just affected them, not just the war but also
the fact that they lost. The war was such an
emasculating thing, and I never thought of it that way.
And he talked about the drinking and the anger and
all the stuff that would go on, which the sound
I guess typical for PTSD.
Speaker 4: But still about the.
Speaker 2: First World War, the second one, I believe Arnold would
have been Arnold's a boomer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it might have been the second one.
Speaker 6: Yeah, But like I mean, Austria was a big I think,
a bigger player in the First World War.
Speaker 4: What they also wanted to be a Yeah, they were
part of they were part of Germany.
Speaker 2: All right, well we'll take them on because then I
want to find it out what happens next and how
Brazil comes into the picture and how many years and
then lots of questions about from your perspective, America, which
I think is very.
Speaker 4: I think it's always interesting.
Speaker 6: But we'll get to all Can we make fun of
Canada too while you're here? Okay, great, we'll get to
all that right after this.
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Speaker 4: It's one of my favorites.
Speaker 2: It's a grumpy irishman yells at people, don't play the
fucking songs no more. There's some recording where he yelled
at everybody who's this. This is Van Morrison. Somebody got
brown eyed girl or something at a concert on So
he says, I don't play those fucking songs no more,
screamed at them.
Speaker 3: So Van Morrison and the Doors used to play together.
Speaker 6: Was it the Roxy or was it cb G one
of those no the whiskey in l A. They used
to play together like weeks at a time. Van Morrison
would play before the doors or they don't put for
him back and forth, Oh yeah, huh Van Morrison, followed
by Jim Morrison.
Speaker 5: For some of you younger people out there who like Josier, Yeah,
he's from Wicklow.
Speaker 2: Okay, oh I forgot Okay, how do you say it?
Speaker 4: Jose A Yeah, Okay, that's not his actual name, though.
I think people called Michael Yeah, yeah, Michael Hosier.
Speaker 2: I think Hosier Yeah yeah, okay, okay, that's right. I
always go a little more of the old school, although
I will tell you I think one of the most
underrated rock bands didn't have many hits, but they were
from Ireland. Then Lizzy Whiskey in the Jar he got
a statue. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure it was a
great Jim break. They were great.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Boys back in town.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Didn't he die?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Od or something?
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, million years ago. There's a yeah, he was
a base he's a basis too. Documentary somewhere on him.
Speaker 6: Sure, there is a documentary on everybody now on YouTube.
It's probably a documentary on you.
Speaker 2: Suresha is Suresha needs one because that so what was
the name of that again? So I don't get it wrong.
You were in the I don't want to say the
Irish Army, but you were part.
Speaker 5: Of the European Rapid Reaction Force, which is a JSOCK operation.
Speaker 2: Got your Yeah, So then what I have in notes
is yet you went, how do you get to Brazil?
Speaker 4: Why Brazil?
Speaker 2: Well, when I left the army, only because the weather's
always shitty in Ireland, I would assume.
Speaker 5: Yeah, two and twenty days year it rains, that's about
its August you might get some sun.
Speaker 2: I remember talking to some guys from Scotland who were like, yeah,
there was in the summer it was like really cold,
rainy in the morning, we got some sun, we had
our shirts off and then by five four o'clock we're back,
you know, because it's.
Speaker 5: Just everybody goes around backpacks with their range jackets inside,
or a small telescopy umbrelah because.
Speaker 2: You never know.
Speaker 5: It's like Rochester four seasons, one day and construction. But
so ill you know, I was honorably discharged from the
Army on their my own, you know, I said, I
you know, that's it. Army life is no longer for me.
A lot of my friends did the same thing. Side
note one went on to become French Foreign Legion Commander
Kevin Brannan. No cousin but no brother, SAME's her name,
last name, whatever you sit here. He went on to
be a p J commander, which is a paramedic jumper
with the.
Speaker 4: French fear Leager, the French Foreign Legion.
Speaker 5: Yep, he's a tough dude. He had to retire because
he's got myer charditis from the shot, but.
Speaker 4: We won't all really. Yeah, he shot to go to Africa. No,
the COVID shot, the Kelsey shot and uh atrial fibrillation,
so he couldn't walk from here to there without being
out of breath.
Speaker 5: Now here to day it's five meters for those who
are not you know, watching, So he had to retire unwillingly,
but he had to because he couldn't operate anymore. My
other friend, Robbie Walsh, has gone on to become quite
a successful director of movies in Ireland and he's had
some movies showcased in cons Film Festival, so he's doing
really well for him and he's doing really nice. Sometimes
he visits New York.
Speaker 4: Maybe you could have him on the podcast, I don't know. Wonderful.
Speaker 5: So after I left the Army the European rapp reaction.
Of course, I had a.
Speaker 4: Lump sum of money.
Speaker 5: Now Euros can go only so far in the European Union,
but in a third world country they can go really far.
So I had this chunk of money. I did meet
a girl, thought I was in love, wasn't. But there
that's okay, Brazilian girl and she said, you know, we
should go to Brazil. And I'm like a gypsy, I'm like, sure,
why not, you know, or a knacker as they're calling Ireland.
So I'm like, yeah, sure, why not? And I took
my lump sum of money. I paid off all my debts,
sold my BMW, and I moved to Brazil. And when
I first got there, I wasn't sure what I wanted
to do, you know, I'm like, why can a you know,
quote unquote gringo, which is not a derogatory term by
the way, that just means it literally means outsider.
Speaker 6: I was just gonna say, like he then the Bible
people think it means like a sinner or not. It
means nations like a gentile basically, all right, they're taking
the term and twisted it.
Speaker 5: Sure, of course, just like the rainbow, and Noah, we
won't get into that, right. So we we had this
lump of money, and I said, well, what can I
do in this country, you know besides military or police
you know, alio stuff, law enforcement officer stuff that would
make me a significant amount of money. Well, I said,
there's a lack of English as a second language schools
in the countryside. Now, in San Paulo City, Hio Di,
Jeneiro City, all those big cities, there's abundance of places
you can go study. However, in this small in Tedior
as they're called the Interior state part of the States,
there was a lack of that. So, you know, I
researched some places where there higher income, like middle to
upper class people, and I said, Xiaou is the name
of the city. I said, Jiaou is perfect because there's
no English school there and there's a lot of affluent
people there that's open there.
Speaker 2: We did it.
Speaker 5: It costs about one hundred thousand to build it, do
it up, you know, make it the way it was,
and we had I want to say, it fluctuated between
two two hundred, two hundred and fifty students a year.
Each student paid the twelve hundred dollars bi annually.
Speaker 2: You do the math.
Speaker 4: We're making great money, like big money.
Speaker 5: And after a few years, you know, I said, what
can we do to even push further and make this
school better. Well, we had a teacher who had lived
in California for I think seven years, and so she
was familiar with the territory I'm sorry, Florida, not California
other side. So we asked her if she could represent
us by going to Florida and meeting Disney executives. So
we struck a deal with Disney because our kids' books
needed that extra oomph. And if you use the silhouette
of Mickey Mouse's Ears, you your family, your family's family,
your generations of kids are fucked because they're gonna to
the ship out of you. Right, oh, Disney, Oh yeah,
even if you did this, you know.
Speaker 2: But it is very popular in Brazil absolutely, because my
brother was an economic forecaster for Disney and so they'd
have to see where it was coming from, and the
Brazil was a huge place. England was a huge place
that they would come to Orlando and you would see
trips like a big flag and they'd be all getting around.
They were from Brazil.
Speaker 5: That's a status symbol, just like an iPhone in Brazil.
Haven't gone to Disney as a trip is also a
status symbol. If you can tell your friends, I've been
to Disney. You've been one, you know one notch up
in the status.
Speaker 4: Gotcha. So we wanted that for.
Speaker 5: The books, so we struck the deal. They gave us
the deal. They didn't want any royalties. We put this
like all their characters on our kids books, you know,
Donald Dot, Mickey Mouse, the whole Classic crew, and wasn't
satisfied with that, so contacted Cambridge University. Struck a deal
with those guys. Took a while so that their final exam,
so if they go through the whole course, which is
about five years and change, the very final exam is
a Cambridge University English exam. It's called my first certificate.
Because we didn't want an exam certificate that was only
valid in Brazil. We wanted something that they could have
and use if they wanted a scholarship somewhere, so that
entitled them to have some type of international recognition. So
that was also a standout thing about our school like
nobody else had that.
Speaker 2: How do you go about teaching English, like I mean right, well,
because now you're one, you're in a Ireland primarily speaking English,
maybe a little bit of Gay like I don't know,
and then you go to Brazil where it's Portuguese, but
it's just slightly different Portuguese just because of where it is,
and you have to learn that language to communicate to
the people in this and then a lot of times
when you're teach I don't know about. My sister's a linguist.
She has a doctor in linguistics, and she went over
to China and taught in Shanghai. And my dad actually
was an English teacher and he went over and taught
and I think in there too, aren't there like I
don't know. Is it English and grammar and absoluteating verbs?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 5: Because in English in Portuguese they don't have do you
like so? Didn't never they never start to question with
do so trying to explain that yeah, sometimes can be difficult,
especially for kids, you know, because they use intonation.
Speaker 3: Ah.
Speaker 5: So if it's a declaration, we'll say gossip jagua you
like water? Yeah, we'll say gassig jagua, yes you like
so there's all the only difference is the intonation. The
intonation the only difference between a question and an affirmation.
I see, okay, and English doesn't have that.
Speaker 3: The bill suck, the bill suck.
Speaker 4: You got it perfect, Look at you learning?
Speaker 6: Yes, I'm ready for my certificate with the mouse on it, right,
your first certificate blue red.
Speaker 5: But then these really difficult questions would come up where
I would have to think about it because I've never
been asked, you know, like what's the difference between underneath
and beneath? I'm like, holy moly, yeah, you know, and
I don't have to describe sometimes not always in Portuguese.
What's the difference between beneath and underneath? You know, one
is below the surface, you know, like underneath the table
it's a surface, and then underneath is just you know,
how long.
Speaker 2: Into your trip to Brazil did you open the school
or about a year? About a year? About seven months?
And how long did it take you to learn Portuguese fluently?
Three years?
Speaker 4: Three years? So you open it's not fluently.
Speaker 5: Correct, right, But I had teachers, I had staff, I
had you know, I had receptionists, I had.
Speaker 4: A whole full crew.
Speaker 5: Okay, So at the start I only took advanced English
people because they could speak pretty.
Speaker 4: Good English as it as it was.
Speaker 5: You know, I didn't have to go into detail about
you know, teacher, what's the meaning of get right? I'm like, well,
that's the only word in the dictionary with seven pages
dedicated to it.
Speaker 2: Let's start, you know.
Speaker 5: Right, It's like those people have already got the basis
and the foundation to where they're I won't say only,
but they're looking for more conversational, right, They're looking for
more slang.
Speaker 2: Yes, right.
Speaker 4: And so although you do follow a protocol and.
Speaker 5: The book, you know, to get level to pass.
Speaker 2: Did you have to write curriculum and everything?
Speaker 4: No? So, uh well that's not true.
Speaker 5: So this organization cool down North Americano, it's American North
American culture is a kind of a.
Speaker 2: Franchise, but not a franchise.
Speaker 5: And so they would consult me on how to structure
their books and how.
Speaker 4: To structure their tests. Ah, but I would also.
Speaker 5: Use those sure, So it was kind of like a mutual.
Speaker 2: Agreement, quick quick pro quell as we said, right, right, okay,
all right? And so.
Speaker 5: Teaching English also helped me understand English better. Sure, I
learned myself too. Yeah, I was teaching myself.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like the passive voice, the active voice got You know,
you don't really learn that in Ireland. No, I don't
think you really.
Speaker 3: Right, you learned the past of an active swear words,
do you?
Speaker 2: Uh? So you do that for how many years? Twelve years? Yeah,
just under thirteen years, just under thirteen years, and you're
with that woman the whole time.
Speaker 5: No, we're we were estranged. Strange, Yeah, I was. I
was ready to come home on the third year.
Speaker 2: I was done.
Speaker 4: You were done?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what made you stay this school? The school?
The school was doing so well?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like, did you like Brazil?
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't, Okay, No, I mean I don't
know much about it.
Speaker 5: I hear different lot of a lot of myth, a
lot of folklore, and they say it's dangerous. In the
thirteen years I lived there, never once, even at nighttime
walking on the street alone, did I ever feel in danger?
Speaker 2: Ever?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Really, never ever?
Speaker 4: Ever?
Speaker 6: Because your wife told me that, she said, like everything
in Brazil is designed to kill you.
Speaker 3: Is that true?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 4: Okay, Like now that's a different thing.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 5: So in the morning I would open up my bathroom
and there's like ten scorpions on the ground. Oh so
I'm like playing whack them all with scorpions. Okay, but
then you would have to find the mom who's asexual.
She can just pop them out anytime she wants. So
you have to find the mom who can, by the way,
get down to like thinner than your iPhone. Really, so
she could be in the crack of a door and
you won't even see her.
Speaker 4: Did you ever get bit or stung? Not by a scorpion.
Speaker 5: I did get danky fever, which is transmitted through a mosquito.
Speaker 4: There are two types of danky fever.
Speaker 5: Your regular danky fever and your hemorrhagic danky fever, which
will make you bleed from the inside out. Really, your
liver will hemorrhage.
Speaker 2: And you will die.
Speaker 4: So and is there there's.
Speaker 5: No cure, shot, nothing, no, just deep, just putting deep
on your shoulders and your arms and that's it. That
even doesn't really work because they'll find somewhere to bite you.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And then there's a bishop barbieru, a kissing bug I
think you call it here, which has a warm so
it'll bite you on the lip in your sleep and
in that hole. It will shit in the hole and
a worm or a you know, a parasite.
Speaker 4: Will go to your heart and it will eat your
heart until you're dead.
Speaker 2: It's called shagas.
Speaker 4: Wow. You don't want shagas.
Speaker 2: You're dead? That wow.
Speaker 4: And there's no cure for this.
Speaker 2: Jeez. That's bad. Yeah, it sounds terrible. And that's all
in Brazil, yeah, or South America in general.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the more inland you go, the worse it is,
like the closer you get to the Amazon.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it gets progressively worse.
Speaker 5: If you're on the coast San Paulo Rio, you know, Santos,
it's not as bad.
Speaker 4: But you have you gone back to visit since you.
Speaker 2: Not have not no, I don't particularly have a no.
I could understand. So you go back to Ireland after
you decide. So what was the breaking point for you?
Speaker 5: I had several side gigs when I was there. One
of them was training Elio in you know fib because
they didn't have that training. They had close quarter combat training,
that had long distance trainings, night per training, whatever. They
never had fiboad training, which is fighting a built up area.
Like I said before in the podcast, it's it's a
very difficult terrain and most of Brazil is FIBA and
no one's ever trained them. So I did that as
a side gig. I also had a third side gig,
which was to proof read books, and so proof read
books in so someone would want language English, Okay, someone.
Speaker 2: Would send me, like a chapter of a book.
Speaker 5: I would proofread it, make sure it was grammatically good
or correct or whatever, make some addendums. Sometimes, if it's
a technical book, the layman like ourselves, it's very difficult
to read. You're like, you read one chapter. Yes, fuck,
I am not reading this anymore. Just I can't understand
half of what's been said. So I would improve the flow,
let's say, improve the kind of like the style.
Speaker 4: I want to read more of this. This is intriguing,
right yeah.
Speaker 5: So around OVID, around the cold it started in Brazil
in twenty nineteen at the end of twenty nineteen was
kind of kicking off. Everyone was swabbing, using masks, getting
the jabs.
Speaker 2: It was very, very.
Speaker 5: Very predominant in Brazil in twenty nineteen. Okay, like then
it was COVID nineteen, but it was kicking off real really,
there are people who think they had it in December
of twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3: Here, yes, I'm not surprise because they were going they
were going to the doctor.
Speaker 6: Doctor's like, you're testing negative.
Speaker 3: For flu, but you have flu symptoms. I'm writing a
script for flu.
Speaker 4: I think there were several people.
Speaker 5: Yeah, in Brazil two thousand, in mid twenty nineteen was
kicking off, so it was probably around before anyone even
knew about it, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, So it's a bat in a wet market, right.
Speaker 3: Kidding back, a penguin and then a penguin and then.
Speaker 6: A car just like the MPOX Yeah yeah, and then
gave it to Tony Fauci.
Speaker 3: It said hey, look spread this. Yeah, I'm sorry, just joking.
Speaker 4: And he seed everybody. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So at that time, this person who is now my
wife reached out to me to proof read the first
chapter of her book, which is based on thermodynamics in
the human body and how heat and cold affect sickness
and wellness. She is the smartest lady person, let's say,
I have ever met.
Speaker 2: In my life, Absolutely brilliant.
Speaker 4: And she's Brazilian.
Speaker 2: No, she's American.
Speaker 3: Canadian.
Speaker 4: She's dual Canadian slash. Okay, so was she living in Brazil?
So she was How does she reach out to you
to proof the book.
Speaker 2: Oh you just do this on the internet or whatever
like fiverliar.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, So she reached out first chapter of
the book.
Speaker 5: Took me about three weeks and change did the you
know the appropriate the dndems received my fee, sent it
back and she sent me an audio of a thanks
and I instantly fell in love. Like that, I boom,
like I knew straight.
Speaker 2: Away, what is it?
Speaker 4: What is it with these irish?
Speaker 5: I said, that woman right there, I knew straight away.
Speaker 2: I heard her voice and I said, oh my love, love,
I'm telling you right now.
Speaker 5: I knew straight away, I said, this woman and you've
never seen I don't know a pig makeup.
Speaker 3: She has a very distinctive voice too.
Speaker 5: But no, but she should be a voiceover for Disney.
But she but she sent me that audio off to
say thank you, and I was like smitten. Yeah, I
was like, I'm done now now, look damn, I'm done.
Speaker 2: Dan and I have both worked in radio and we
have heard women's voices.
Speaker 4: Some of them are like they.
Speaker 2: Do not always.
Speaker 4: I mean, this is like a shiring, making you crash
your ship.
Speaker 5: I am telling you right now, she needs to be
on the podcast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, like I'm not even so where did you
meet her? How did you meet her?
Speaker 4: Person?
Speaker 5: Then, so then we started this so COVID was kicking off.
Speaker 4: I saw her writing on the wall.
Speaker 5: I said, you know what, this school is probably con tank. Yeah,
I'm like, it's going to tank. People are gonna want
to do hybrid or online, which they did. So I
saw her writing on the wall. I said, I'm gonna
sell my school. Okay, sold it for a pretty good deal. Yeah,
you know, pulled a shoot, went back to Ireland. But
we had this conversation going for about two years, back
and forth, just like conversation zoom calls, yeah, FaceTime.
Speaker 2: Whatever, you're a Hallmark movie man.
Speaker 5: FaceTime, you know everything possible to keep the communication alive, basically,
and well, I told her off the bat, like I said,
you know, I told her off the bat.
Speaker 2: How I felt, I didn't. I didn't care how.
Speaker 5: She if it was going to shock her her or not.
But she felt the same, which was good.
Speaker 4: What do you do? Flying?
Speaker 2: So then I went to Ireland.
Speaker 4: The minute I land in Ireland, Europe is banned to
come to America.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like nobody in Europe can come, Like, thanks Biden, Yeah,
thanks Biden. So what difference does it make.
Speaker 6: It's all over the world, right right, exactly what the
European variant is stronger.
Speaker 4: They were trying to just contain.
Speaker 5: Really, yeah, I mean anyway, So I stayed there for
about a year and I said to myself, how am
I the hell am I going to get to America?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 5: I went from Ireland to England, England to Saint Lucia.
I had to stay there for fifteen days.
Speaker 4: In quarantine in one room in Saint Lucia.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like one room.
Speaker 5: I couldn't even yeah, because they quarantined beautiful too. I
couldn't even see one inch of it. They swabbed me,
said I was COVID positive. I'm like sure, okay, whatever.
So I had to stay a further fifteen days, So
thirty days in one room. Then after that thirty days,
I came into Miami. The guy was like, next, next,
that's it. It's weird. So at that time, her clinic
was in Pittsford and I just showed up with two.
Speaker 2: Starbucks in Pittsford here. Yeah, you just showed up. You
just you just showed up. You just walked in and
you just said hello.
Speaker 6: It's like the Polio Dynamite where Lafonda Fondo just shows
up off the bus.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, hey, Lafondo, so you just show up there.
And and what was the plan.
Speaker 5: Well, the plan was to you know, see if I
like it. First of all, for I mean, your visa
in the last six months, right right right. So I said,
you know, I'll hang out. I don't like, I'll go back,
Like I said, I'm a gipsy.
Speaker 2: I'll go anywhere.
Speaker 5: So not literally, that's I mean, come on, So I said,
you know, I'll hang out. If it's cool, I'll stay.
I don't know how, but I will. Maybe I'll just
come across the southern border or something.
Speaker 4: And then so on.
Speaker 5: Like near the end of my visa, I said to myself,
I cannot leave this woman. I am absolutely head over
heels in love. I cannot go home.
Speaker 4: This is my home.
Speaker 2: Now home was here the herds. Yeah, so in the.
Speaker 5: Barn, because we live on a farm with the goose
shit everywhere and the chickens as my witnesses. I got
down and one d and proposed, and she started crying.
She said yes. And then there was a whole rigmarole
of homeland security and yeah, trying to attorneys on retainers
and yeah, but it's fine. I'm a permanent resident now,
but it took doing it the proper way legally.
Speaker 4: Well, it's not easy. Is hard, It's very hard.
Speaker 3: I have a oh you didn't get like a gift
card when you walked in.
Speaker 2: Now free follow a free hotel. Unfortunately, brother in laws
was army captain west Point grad married a woman from
the Philippines and she had children that she couldn't get here,
but it took her forever.
Speaker 4: It's very hard.
Speaker 2: I always say the immigration laws half you have to
have them, of course, but we need to make them so.
Speaker 4: They're a little more.
Speaker 5: Well if it well, so if it comes to children, yeah,
I think you know, if if an American has married
someone like myself, let's say, and I have kids in Ireland,
I think there should be leeway for those kids to
come over.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's something I rip it apart the family.
Speaker 2: That makes it tough.
Speaker 5: But now in Jenny match in May, I can start
my citizenship process if I wish, okay, which will entitle
me to apply for You can have duel though, right
federal jobs for example?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Could you? Yeah, it's a duel between here in the
United States. Yeah, Ireland. Yeah, it's dual because my mother,
I think can get that. Yeah, it's due and I
think if she can get it or cats it, I
could get it.
Speaker 5: I think if you have graham a graam like a norna, Yeah,
you can get an Italian passport.
Speaker 4: Oh really, yep, how funny.
Speaker 5: They just have to get in contact with the Italian
embassy and go.
Speaker 4: Through the press. Well, is there a population dwindling over
there a little bit?
Speaker 2: I know, it's just easy to.
Speaker 4: Get all right, Uh, we'll take a moment.
Speaker 2: I want to find out some stuff about the United States,
your thoughts here, our whole process, maybe your view as
a young person. Well, I would like to say off
the bat, yeah.
Speaker 5: Congratulations on your new president because and the reason why
I say that is because the United States is based
off of a republican constitution, a free market, and you know,
it's it's a capitalist country. So it's nice to see
it go back to its roots. I, as an Irishman
from the Republic of Ireland, also told the English to
go suck an egg.
Speaker 3: Back in the day.
Speaker 4: You know, so we're both on the same team.
Speaker 3: We're Yanks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is true.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll take a moment and a little perspective
of America on the world state. Sounds good.
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Speaker 3: Smart?
Speaker 2: Do you know this band show that doesn't sound for
let me get? They're Irish too, And I know they are.
They're called Chalk They New, Yeah, they are new. I
didn't know I'd been out of country for so long. Yeah,
it is funny, how like some bands don't but I
mean even here, like regionally, right, you got a Southside Johnny.
I love Southside, but he's more of a regional.
Speaker 6: Ma like in New Jersey, New York, downstate. Yeah, Like
I saw Southside.
Speaker 3: Johnny play at not East Endfest? What was Jazz Fest?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 6: And I was like, okay, but like you know, tragically
hire my favorite band, Well they don't exist anymore because
the lead singer died.
Speaker 3: But they're huge in Canada. But they're also huge in Buffalo,
Detroit border cities.
Speaker 6: But like, if you move any further away from that,
nobody cares Rochester, nobody cares.
Speaker 4: Nobody cares Buffalo.
Speaker 2: They're huge. If you make it in Japan, apparently you've
made it a lot of You can comment if you're
watching on online, if you're on Facebook, or if you're
on uh YouTube, you can comment in The comments are
coming in, lots of them for your source.
Speaker 4: Excuse me, shorsha, I appreciate that, guys and girl.
Speaker 2: Yes there was, Uh somebody goes Staten Island's borough of
New York City.
Speaker 4: No, I know that, but he was in a different borough.
Speaker 2: Uh. Somebody did say there is so much going on
that no one knows about in this world, about how
many boots are on the ground on the planet, almost everywhere.
Speaker 4: Did he ever work with the French Foreign Legion?
Speaker 2: Yes? I did?
Speaker 4: You did?
Speaker 2: What'd you do with them in Africa? Too? Because they're.
Speaker 5: Well you so they take orders from the French army.
But to be a French foreign legion soldier. You cannot
be French ah ah okay, but they do take orders
from the French.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that, yes, and so I did.
Speaker 5: We did, you know, we worked with them quite extensively
in Africa. They would especially in Eritrea. They built some
outposts that we took over from.
Speaker 3: M hmm.
Speaker 2: Somebody did say, it's funny, I still doesn't like the English.
Sounds like he's from the South. I still hate it is.
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's I wouldn't use the word hate, however,
let's use the word dislike.
Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because I've told this before many times.
It's sort of boring. But my parents left Catholicism when
I was seven and my mom's father.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't speak to her for a year.
Speaker 2: Really, yeah, because you went Protestant more or less, and
that was that was a huge I.
Speaker 5: Mean, most people who are born in Ireland are raised Catholic. Yes,
but at some point, you you know, you kind of
find your own path.
Speaker 4: Yeah, distance yourself a little bit.
Speaker 3: Did your parents become evangelical or yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, like it was more evangelical church, it was
the Yeah, it was evangelical.
Speaker 4: Friend's Evangelical church.
Speaker 2: I don't practice Catholicism, by the way, No, but brought
up that way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I found its laws and stepped away.
Speaker 3: Yea many people my parents did that too.
Speaker 2: So you come here, you end up in Pittsford to
just show up on the doorstep a couple of coffees.
That is a hallmark movie. Man, you can turn that
into an absolute homework. But then, so then what are
you gonna do? What if she like, is there any
plan you're walking in there? You've never really we met
her in person? Right, this is the first time ever
ever in person? No, never in person.
Speaker 4: But you've seen her, yes, and she's seen you, yes,
And now you're.
Speaker 5: Gonna I constantly met the joke of I'm five foot five,
so I hope that's okay?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, And she was shitting herself that was the
same height as her.
Speaker 2: How tall are you five eleven?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 3: Yeah? It's supposed to be metric system one.
Speaker 2: So you walk in and.
Speaker 4: What goes on?
Speaker 3: Where?
Speaker 4: Where do you end up staying? Where do you straight
to her home? Straight?
Speaker 2: Which is in Holly?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: We live.
Speaker 4: We live on a homestead. Wait, I like to call
it a farm. It's not like a multi million dollar
hing up by Brockport. Yes, it's Orleans County. Yeah, past Brockport,
like twelve minutes almost cleardon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so.
Speaker 5: I met the parents off the bat, you know, love them,
they love me like a app fantastic dynamic.
Speaker 4: And how many years were you talking to her?
Speaker 2: Two years?
Speaker 4: So you felt like you knew her to that absolutely, Yeah, everything's.
Speaker 2: It's interesting where you kind of have this time where
no one's interfering in the relationship.
Speaker 4: So it's almost like old fashioned courting where you're like
just talking to the girl for years before you do anything.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been online chatting
with babes all day.
Speaker 4: I bet you can throw this ball over the mountain.
That's ever happened to me.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean we live on a homestead. We
have chickens and vegetables and organic.
Speaker 2: This is exactly what you grow their own eggs, grow
their own funny. But yeah, they beautiful.
Speaker 4: I mean we love it there. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So and and this is well, you grew up in
a small town in Ireland.
Speaker 5: Countryside is nothing new to me. I mean, the whole
if you're outside of Dublin, everything's countryside. Yeah, like you're
you're driving up narrow streets with sheep, traffic jams and stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah okay. So what I mean when you get here, though,
is there a little bit of culture shock or not?
I would assume that movies and things sort of prepare you.
Speaker 4: I remember being in.
Speaker 2: It's funny to say that Spain. I was over in
Coasta del Soul one time when I was young, and
there's a drunken a bar and this guy comes up
to me and goes, are the homes as big as
they are in the movies in America? Would you say
home Alone?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: That was the one. He said, Holy crap, that was
the one he brought up Home Alone pre story and
I and yeah right, yeah.
Speaker 4: So Ferris Bueller's day off very similar.
Speaker 5: Because I was born in seventy eight, so I grew
up with eighties movies. So the idea I had in
my head of America in general was everybody's on the
street having fun, playing with the high you know, the
fire height and crack, the open kids having fun. And
then you come to Rochester and you're like ducking because
there's like over your.
Speaker 3: Head right that where you use.
Speaker 6: Rochester fighting and built up areas, surviving and built up areas.
Speaker 2: But when you have no job or anything, when you
get right, so what do you end up doing?
Speaker 5: So it's it is quite difficult as a foreigner to
find a decent, let's say, a decent job. It's easy
to find any job. Like when someone said, oh there's
no jobs, that's a lie. It's you know, what are
your standards? Right, So it's like you can work anywhere
basically depending on your standards. And so I believe that's
why a lot of foreigners do uber and door dash
is because a lot of foreigners have difficulty getting quote
unquote decent jobs. Now I want to say I applied
to over one hundred companies when I arrived here with
my extensive resume.
Speaker 2: You can see on LinkedIn. Yeah, I did see it.
It's it's impressive.
Speaker 5: And like I have a lot of female certificates, a
lot of counter terrorism certificates. They can't really be used
in a date, Like you're not going to use counter
terrorism in McDonald's right.
Speaker 6: It depends on where If they do a fire in
the hole, if your cold fire in the hole, you
want to you want to fire in the hole, all right.
Speaker 2: We used to laugh, do you know if fire in
the hole is? That's where I know what it is?
Where original this is where someone would screen fire in
the hole. They'd be videotaping and they take their drink
and throw it back onto the worker in the window.
And there were a couple of assholes who used to
be on the radio in the morning that would play
these videos and laugh themselves sick.
Speaker 4: This thing was so funny and it's really horrible, kind
of referred to the workers.
Speaker 6: With their who are fucking Yes, then we can a
couple of emails say, hey, you guys are encouraging people.
Speaker 2: To do this in Rochester. Yes, yes, sorry weird?
Speaker 5: Yeah, not my style. But so, like I said, it
is difficult to find a decent job. So my first
job was with American Medical Rescue am OR in the
city of Rochester as an emergency medical technician.
Speaker 2: That was fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, how was that?
Speaker 2: Because you're talking about all the stuff, is it a
war zone the way.
Speaker 4: It sounds, extend a little drama?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I will say that. So my partners, like
because you would have different partners until you find like
a solid partner you stay with. Were paramedics and critical
care paramedics, so Sierra Hicks Paramedics. She also works in
Gates fantastic paramedic. And then Christopher Gray who is now
the chief paramedic for parents his critical Care. He used
to work Kilo in the Mercy Flight. He was my
partner for a long time too, so we would drive
the big box trucks. Is not the transits, and so
every day now there are thirty trans events on duty
at any one time.
Speaker 2: Thirty wow.
Speaker 5: So but you always have to have one posted, so
you'll have twenty nine doing jobs and once one finish,
the job goes back into service, the next one gets
called into service for whatever job is it's going on.
The mayor decided that you have to have one ready
at all times. Anyway, every day, several times a day,
people will be shot, stabbed, overdosed, ran over, bitten by
a dog, domestically abused, raped, like you're talking the whole list,
every day, every day, every single day. And we were
encouraged to wear a bulletproof best that just tells you.
Speaker 4: You need to provide yourself.
Speaker 2: You have to buy it yourself. Jesus, it was incouraged.
Speaker 5: Nowadays say they were right, I mean they're owned by
GMR KKR own GM or not like multi billionaires, but whatever,
it's all about the bottom line, right. So we would
constantly run calls, one after the other after the other,
and some of them were horrible, Like some of them
are so bad.
Speaker 4: You think to yourself, how is this happening in Rochester?
Why are people shooting each other for nothing? Can't even
go to a barbecue in a park anymore without someone
shooting you.
Speaker 5: You can't deliver a pizza. Some dude be picked up.
He was delivering pizza for Uber Eats. He leaned over
into the passenger to get his you know, like the
hot bag or the cooler bag shot him in the back.
Speaker 4: For no reason.
Speaker 5: You could say mistaken identity, whatever you could. You could
brush it off, but at the end of the day,
it's ridiculous. And then you're talking about, you know, the
Kia boys who would smash their cars into other cars
and ultimately hurt themselves and our arted people.
Speaker 2: Right for what TikTok?
Speaker 4: Come on, that's stupid and the irresponsible and nobody cares
like stop. You know, I'm.
Speaker 2: Curious as to the one thing I always find it.
I think it's the personality type I would like to
say it's foreigners, but the personality type, the balls it
takes to leave your country where your family is and
where your comfort is and where your home is, and
to go and you did it twice, like you went
to the other side of the world, really right down
to Brazil.
Speaker 4: I mean I don't it's pretty far what Africa Brazil? Yeah, yeah,
a lot of parts.
Speaker 2: Well in Africa was but before the right with a
time stamp, this will end at whatever right Brazil didn't
have that that was your own right and and then
to come here. And I always think that that the
confidence it takes to do that, the self assuredness, and
the difficulties it is in terms of I would think
probably harder in my just brief moments of knowing you
would be Brazil only in that there are no than
the United States. And I'm only saying that one for
the language barrier until you get it and then all
that other shit that could possibly happen, a shitting and
you know, digging a hole and shitting in your thing
and then get into your heart.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I just I mean, like, yes, the language barrier is
only a barrier for whatever length of time it takes
you to learn that language, and it's not a barrier anymore,
and then you're free.
Speaker 4: Here.
Speaker 5: The barrier is a lot of Like I said before,
decent jobs require you to be a US citizen, at
least the jobs I want to do. Let's say now
I am going through currently uh state background check for
a state job.
Speaker 2: Just leave it at that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so that takes eight weeks in itself. I've
already had two interviews, I've done one test, and now
waiting for the background check, which takes eight plus weeks,
is what I was told. Now, when onboarding starts, probably January,
I mean, it's it's.
Speaker 4: But that'll be much better safer.
Speaker 5: It's in a civilian position with the state.
Speaker 2: We'll say that.
Speaker 5: And so to go back to your previous comment about Rochester,
and especially as a first responder, if you remember a
while back the firemen who were shot at the door,
someone called nine one one and shot them through the door.
I mean, the protocol for anybody in the first responder
now is to knock the door to the side and
verbally announce yourself as loud as possible. You know what
you don't say ems because not everybody knows what EMS is,
so we were told to say ambulance. Everyone knows what
an ambulance is. Or you can't say EMT paramedic because
unfortunately people don't know what that is.
Speaker 2: So you grew up in Ireland where there isn't this.
I don't know if we can even call a gun culture.
But they're not as violent. Yeah correct? Did you know
many people who even own them?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: We we all have guns in Ireland.
Speaker 5: We hunt, we shoot in sports clay pigeons, but there
wasn't I think you call it here and then we
would have like a three h eight with a silencer,
but we were shooting a target out of you know,
six seven hundred yards just for fun.
Speaker 2: But but no, but none of this stuff.
Speaker 4: So I'm here.
Speaker 5: If someone is shot in Ireland, anywhere in Ireland, it's
national news for months, like there's outrage. Usually the people
who are shooting one another are like Russian and Polish
gangs or some type of gang activity ira something like that.
You don't find a gang member randomly shooting a civilian
for no reason other than I need this on TikTok
or a getting initiation.
Speaker 4: Or sort of robbery.
Speaker 2: There are robbery no, but I mean with a gun
very rare, very very rare, Like if you if you
hear about it, it's national news. So what was your
first reaction to this when you get here and you decided? So,
my first ever call.
Speaker 5: In the city of Rochester as a first responder while
I was going through through clearing, you know, training period,
we went to this guy's house. Well, come, So we
have a system that's called bricks and it gives you
the whole low down on what the nine one one
center received. Now that could be very accurate in information,
or it could be absolutely so vague that you have
no idea what you go into. So it was hyper emesis,
which is, you know, excessive vomiting, hyper emesis with blood
something like that.
Speaker 2: Some vague and that was it.
Speaker 5: We were like, Okay, maybe he's just, like you know,
ingested something that he shouldn't have ingested or who knows what.
Let's go have a look. So it's in an apartment.
We're bagging on the apartment. He opens the door and
when I say to you, I have never ever in
my life seen so much blood in the room.
Speaker 4: I am not kidding. And you were this room right here.
Speaker 5: Like the walls, the ground, his bed soaked everything. I'm like,
this is a horror movie. And what happened was he
I won't name the hospital, but he had a surgery
in his in his thorax, and they stationed up and
while he was asleep, it opened and he started to
breathe in he started to assiciate on his own blood,
which woke him up and he started vomiting.
Speaker 4: They sent him home. He was home, right, Jess.
Speaker 5: Operations done, go home. Like I said, I won't say
the hospital. Not very fond of them, but whatever. And
so we got there and we were in a group
of three because I was the newbie, I was, you know,
training well one of my partners over here trying to
get information out of imagine the Exorcist, which with with
blood it was just a projectile and he had to
go for hepatitis tests and all that. Jazz sure, And
that was my introduction to first responders in the city
of Rochester. My second one was probably worse. So I
went to a house and their unk was in the basement,
probably big enough for about five people.
Speaker 4: Twenty five people.
Speaker 5: Were down there at least doing what So he had
like a little gem down there. He still had his
gloves on, and he was on his back. He was supine,
which is the name of like lying horizonally on your back.
Speaker 4: Ground boxing ring.
Speaker 2: They were so irate, so they were.
Speaker 4: Saying to us, if you don't get my own back,
we're gonna fucking kill you.
Speaker 5: Like and they meant it. They really meant they were
going to kill us if we didn't get him back. So,
you know, we put the pads on, We give him
an eye O which is an interouscer. He in the
bone and the shin start pumping all the drugs into
this guy, start giving CPR and the shocks, and we
thankfully got rosc which is his heart beat back. Well,
once they saw the roster, like oh he's back, and
in our heads we're like, how back's back.
Speaker 4: He might be on event for the rest.
Speaker 2: Of his life, or like yeah, okay, let's get him go.
Speaker 5: We got out, We got un back here, we're gonna
take for precauco. Then we loaded him up on the
Mega mover. We got him out of there. Because he
was a very small kind of guy. The two of
us were fine. We didn't need, you know, fire to
help us. We got him out of there and got
him on the stretcher and went lights and sirens to
the hospital. Yeah, with an unwitnessed cardiac event. And the
last time someone saw him well was an hour ago.
Speaker 4: So you did you He was a gym down there. Yeah,
he had like a little home gym. Yeah, so he
was working out.
Speaker 5: Well, he had a cardiac event, walk, cardiac event. I
don't know, maybe a stroke, who knows. Yeah, I am
not superman. I do not have an em right in
my head. Who knows?
Speaker 2: So what what you know when you look at the
world and then I don't know what the impression of
America is on a young shortia growing up and like,
you know, what are you cognizant of anything like five
years old?
Speaker 4: So what what year is that?
Speaker 2: Like nineteen, like the eighties movies and stuff like that. Yea, yeah,
I mean the thriller album comes out and you know
that kind of mbo rambo.
Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, I just want to pass through leave me alone, right.
Speaker 2: All you wanted to do.
Speaker 4: Was pass through the village, living the chaos in the suit.
Speaker 2: And then compare that to kind of what your image
in your head was to what the actuality is completely different.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong. I love it here. Yeah,
absolutely love it here.
Speaker 2: This is my home. Now.
Speaker 5: That's why I'm going for my citizenship next year. I mean,
let's face it, half of Ireland or Irish anyway, Yeah,
I mean we all came over on the boats and
start building shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean it's not like either Italian, German or Irish.
Speaker 2: Right, I mean it's that's it. I mean.
Speaker 5: So I love it here, I really really do. Now
do I love Rochester in some ways?
Speaker 2: Yes? I do. I love the people. Yeah, I would
say that the people.
Speaker 5: The people that I encounter day to day are fantastic
for the most part, and let's say ninety something percent,
who knows what figure you could put on it. But
for the most part, I would say that the people
are won't make Rochester Rochester.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: I enjoy their company, I enjoy talking to them, I
enjoy hearing their stories.
Speaker 4: It's so diverse.
Speaker 5: But the United States as a whole, every state I've
been to feels like a different country. Like if I
go to South or North Carolina, it doesn't it feels
like a completely different country. If I go to Florida,
I'm like, this is like South America. It feels completely different.
It doesn't feel like the same country, if that makes sense.
Speaker 4: No, it does.
Speaker 2: I had European neighbors and they would always say to
me because they spoke They were from Finland and Switzerland,
and they I would ask how many languages? I always
think probably one of the greatest things you could do
for your brain is to learn another language. I just help.
I think it helps you think differently, right, And she
would you said to me, you know, Americans don't have
to because in Europe, if I want to go to
a desert, I need to speak their language because they
don't speak the same language. And so there is that.
But you're right, it is very different. They're very sure.
Speaker 5: You can go to Arizona and experience a deserta whatever, right,
and speak the language is the point, right, and use
the same currency. It still feels like a different country.
Speaker 4: I can understand what you're saying. For a while.
Speaker 2: My son who now lives with me, he's fourteen, was
in the Huntsville, Alabama area, and I would go down
there and it was very different, you know, just just different.
Speaker 4: In terms of different things. You just you learned different customs.
Speaker 6: I've heard stories where like now from people from Alabama
who from here moved to Alabama.
Speaker 3: People from here moved to New York or Texas. Right,
so where are you from New York? Yeah?
Speaker 6: And they take like two giant steps back, like you
got some type of disease or like they're shocked, or
you're gonna like, you know, throw something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you do here? Yeah? What's the problem?
Speaker 2: Right? What are you running from? Yeah? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: You running from?
Speaker 4: Who you're running from?
Speaker 2: I'm with you?
Speaker 3: No, sure?
Speaker 2: So what a life?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's got to be some, i mean fun stuff
along the way here.
Speaker 4: Oh absolutely.
Speaker 5: I mean I can tell you some stories about you know,
anything you.
Speaker 2: Want, Africa for example.
Speaker 5: Yeah, some serious ones, some funny ones if you want.
Speaker 2: I remember.
Speaker 5: At some point, I don't remember exactly when, but we
were on patrol and I was on standby, and we
had her nods or night vision you know, goggless, but
we have them up in the antler position. So because
you want your eyes to you know, you know, be
accustomed to night rather than have to constantly use your
night vision, because that will give you night blindness because
the minute you have to take them up, you can't shaving, right,
or you can use one monocular so that you constantly
have like a good eye, and if a car is
passing by, you cover your good eye or your I
should say your eye that's not being using the monocular
night vision, so that when he goes by, you still
have that like dilated pupil. So we had the the
antlers up, and I remember I was, you know, just
standing there and I was just looking around and you could.
Speaker 2: Just start like I mean to start.
Speaker 5: You look up this guy, You're like, holy crap, you
could see the whole universe. You know, It's like wow,
because there's no lights around here in the middle of
the desert.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 5: I remember I heard this weird laughing, like this bizarre
almost demonic laughing in the distance. So I get on
the coms. I talked to my buddy. I'm like, can
you hear that. It's like I hear something. I don't
know what it is, though, I'm like, it's very strange.
Speaker 4: Hang on.
Speaker 5: So I took my antlers down and put them on,
and in front of me, maybe one hundred and fifty
yards away, they were a pack of hyaenas walking towards me.
Speaker 4: And they really laughed like that.
Speaker 5: Oh, it's very bizarre and it's spooky as shit at nighttime.
Speaker 4: I know I've seen hyenas in a zoo, I've never
heard them.
Speaker 5: Oh, it's so squeaky nighttime. The wild ones are so spooky.
It's like a fox at nighttime when it sounds.
Speaker 2: Like a woman's screaming.
Speaker 5: Yes, but it's not that that's freaking itself.
Speaker 4: Yes it is.
Speaker 5: The hyenas have this laugh that's also just as spooky
and freak.
Speaker 4: And as Roger Rabbit.
Speaker 3: Okay, you're gonna die laughing.
Speaker 5: Well, it's funny you should say that.
Speaker 3: See.
Speaker 5: So they start coming towards us, and I'm like, listen,
I can't get let these guys get any closer because
I don't know what's going to happen, because at some
point they're going to come up into the you know,
we'll call it a camp. It's not really a camp.
It's like a makeshift camp forward operating position. And they're
coming further and further, I should say, closer and closer,
and so I put on my can, which.
Speaker 4: Is a nickname for a silencer. So I'm putting on
the can.
Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm gonna pick one off just to let them,
you know, spook them. So I bring it up in
the position. I hit one dead center between the eyes
and they all scattered.
Speaker 2: But man, was that's that was spooky?
Speaker 4: How many you're in a pack when they're traveling.
Speaker 5: I want to say there was about eight, maybe not
walking towards me because they're scavengers.
Speaker 2: Well, they're scavengers, and I always got the impression only
from probably Disney movies.
Speaker 5: Oh no, they're scavenger, right, No, no, but to right,
I watched The Lion King.
Speaker 2: But that they're scavengers and that they're scared basically scared off, right.
But but but they're wild animals. Yeah, so I'm going
and sing.
Speaker 5: Happened with the boons too, and they have babies, Yeah,
they have they have teeth like massive incisors, like they
have big teeth that if they bite you, you're probably done,
you know. And so the same thing was happening. They
would run and run back and run closer you run back,
and then I had to like just take one out
and then they just scattered.
Speaker 3: There's a video on YouTube the Red Ass.
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, you took a video. So Bill's kids are
little at this point, they go to the Seneca Park too,
and Bill and just this is before like you could
tape anything in your cell phone. It had one of
those special cameras, right and called your palm. It's like
twenty ten.
Speaker 3: This is innovative, right.
Speaker 6: So he's at the zoo's tape and Jackson, his son
who has autism, goes.
Speaker 3: You know the most fascinating thing about a babboon is
but just straight tray face. He's not trying to be funny,
he is. It's so fascinating his right, but his pla,
his pro lap status.
Speaker 2: God, I have heard stories.
Speaker 4: Of pro laps datus.
Speaker 2: I don't want to know about it, No, not for me.
Had surgery and then yeah.
Speaker 3: That's why he was a preparation h sota.
Speaker 2: And it pops out again and what a mess that
I go? Holy God? Who I didn't even know that
can happen? I had no idea. Oh thanks, yeah, I'm
all set.
Speaker 3: So let me ask you real quick, what what?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 6: Don't Americans appreciate being an outsider coming here like I
almost the outside, but you know, I didn't know you
would tell me. Honestly, I mean I I don't think
we appreciate what we have because we're so like, think
about this, you had to learn like multiple languages, living
in Europe, a lot of freedom loan. That's the thing we
have everything. America is the center of the world. And
I'm not saying that to be arrogant. It seems like
everything everybody wants to come here, like we you And
I had a professor of Fisher, doctor Muskowsky, America owns
the world that everybody rents, right, guys. Yeah, And everybody
started laughing. But he wasn't like trying to make a joke.
He was trying to say, you guys got it pretty
good here. Like he was from Poland and like he's
like the world's foremost expert of Polish history, and he
was like, do you understand, Like how good you have
it here? And he was a history professor at Saint
John Fisher University, And he's like, you guys take it
for granted, like college is just a given to you people.
Do you understand, Like, Wow, good you have it here?
And I think this last election, I think a lot
of people who are who seem to be disappointed by
the results are the ones in this case who don't
get what we really have.
Speaker 4: The only country in the world where people hate it
and still stay Yeah.
Speaker 3: Thank you. Nobody's leaving.
Speaker 6: None of those people who said they're gonna leave are
gonna leave, like Eddie Vedder and Bruce Bringsteen and Barberstreis
and aren't leaving America.
Speaker 2: Did they say they were going.
Speaker 6: There's like a whole list Oprah, Tom Hanks, weren't going
the leave me.
Speaker 3: That's what they said.
Speaker 4: I don't know if they said that.
Speaker 6: Eddie Vedder has like Bill Maher ed Bill Maher like
three months ago a new rules said he look, if
you're gonna say you're gonna.
Speaker 4: Leave them leave, you have to leave.
Speaker 3: He goes, I love it, he goes. He goes.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't like the idea of Trump, he said,
But he goes, I'm not leaving.
Speaker 3: No to America, no.
Speaker 5: Far and foreign. There's can't even buy property in Canada
right now. There's a new law in place. So even
if you're trying to go across the board of Canada
and buy house, which is probably twice as expensive as here,
they're not letting you by it.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: The other thing is to no very passionate about the election,
and and and great concern and things and rhetoric that
have been said that concern people. But I would say
that in the end, the president doesn't have a direct
impact on your.
Speaker 4: Daily life as much as that it just doesn't. It won't.
Speaker 2: I mean to a certain extent, there will be things
that change, but it's not it's not. I think it's
more governors to have these yes, and local right on
the local level will have a greater impact on you.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying it doesn't matter. I'm not being naive.
I would just say the over reaction.
Speaker 2: To it at times is there are there things to
be concerned about. Maybe I don't know. Why don't we
wait and see? Right?
Speaker 4: I can't. I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't be upset about what I don't know. It's
like having an argument with in your head with somebody
before you see them.
Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 6: Seneca says, whoever worries more than necessary, worries more than necessary.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just look, I get it, I get the concern,
and I see things. I vote one way for reasons,
somebody else votes another way. In the end, I love
this guy. That's what makes America great. Yes, exactly.
Speaker 4: And you know what, sometimes the freedom of choice, yes, right.
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Speaker 7: Before they noticed, I got to know these guys.
Speaker 3: The Pogues.
Speaker 2: Fairy tale from New York was always like a big
one here. The Polts are big, the Pogues.
Speaker 3: Yeah then't they just died? Yeah they just died.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, everybody knows the Yeah.
Speaker 3: I didn't actually until the dude died, you didn't know.
Oh yeah, no sorry.
Speaker 2: My grandfather used to always play Irish music on Sunday,
so there's radio station. He would play it every Sunday
in the backyard.
Speaker 4: It would be there.
Speaker 2: What Shorts is here? Shorts has had like a very
interesting life growing up in Ireland, becoming a part of
the Army and then the Joint Forces and Special Ops
running an English school in Brazil. Man who has that
on there?
Speaker 4: Like it's quite.
Speaker 2: Yeah it is, but I think it's awesome, Like you
know what I think? I think our problem as I
get older is I'm seeing that we put ourselves at
least and I don't know if this is a human
thing or an American thing. I am a blank and there. Yeah,
And and it's funny because we do it with artists,
we do it with others, and I go a true artist. Well,
you know, Picassa was a sculptor, right, but he painted
because you wanted him to paint, so he painted. But
he was a sculptor, which again we could say is
in the same vein of art, right, we could call
it art, but it's not the same. And you know
he could be absolutely different skills, right exactly when I
say the same vein. If I go to a museum,
I'm going to see a painting in a sculpt right,
so we would put it in the same thing. But
to your point, yes, it's too different. And that's where
I think many times we just box things up. And
so therefore on this and that, and I think, boy,
you miss out. And the Renaissance man to me was
the greatest there was. Like your father being a skilled carpenter, right,
probably could do many many many other can you work
with tools and things?
Speaker 5: I did shop in school, yeah, but I can't build
a table. Okay, scuse like he can Yeah, that would
being a master kapenter. He can do all that fine detail, right.
I mean I'm sure I could knock up a table, right,
not as fancy as he could.
Speaker 4: Oh no, I know that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's just but he could also probably write or sing
or play against you know, like all these things that
we just we pigeonhole somebody. And that's where I love
the idea that you were in the army and then
you're teaching English in South America. Did your family ever
come visit?
Speaker 5: Not to Brazil. No, they've been here, yeah, but not
to Brazil. They were always afraid of Brazil. I constantly
told him it's fine, just come, and they didn't know.
Speaker 4: I can understand it a little bit.
Speaker 5: I mean before I was deployed to Africa and my
mom took a picture of me because she was afraid I.
Speaker 4: Was going to be decapitated. And I was like, thanks
for the confidence, mom.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: In Africa, yeah, yeah, because ISIS was a thing, and
sure well they were probably going into did IIS have
a stronghold at all or any Ethiopia.
Speaker 5: And nothing, not that I'm aware of their true name
is Daesh. But that's that's a whole different ballgame.
Speaker 4: Now that I'm aware of.
Speaker 5: The Wagner group are very prominent in Africa back in
the early two thousands, which we've only heard about nowadays.
In Ukraine and Russia, they're mercenaries, Russian mercenaries.
Speaker 2: Race and Randy just said to me, it's not a
good time. I talked to him earlier. I'm sorry to
interrupt this because I have lots of other questions I
want to ask you, but I just have to tell you,
Danny the UH race and Randy goes, Uh, buddy, I'm
watching the championship race. Twenty three laps to go. Now
is not a good time. Championship race twenty three laps.
Speaker 3: This is their super Bowl.
Speaker 4: This is there?
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, oh yeah. They have two of them. The
first race is Daytona.
Speaker 6: That's like it's they start with the super Bowl and
they end with the super Bowl, the Championship.
Speaker 4: The UH.
Speaker 2: I always think, coming to this country, Uh. Like Danny
had asked you, what what are we not? What are
we not grateful for? What do we do you know?
Not seeing?
Speaker 3: What don't we appreciate?
Speaker 4: What the freedoms?
Speaker 2: I would say that you have here, But what is
it that that How does the rest of the world
see us versus like, what is the thinking of the
Let's say you're in the joint you're in that joint
task force. What what I would say, soldiers?
Speaker 5: I would say in general, most foreigners would regard Americans
as being cocky. Now I don't see that. I see
it as confidence. There's a difference between cockiness and confidence.
But a lot of people feel like or believe I
should say that Americans in general. Of course, you can't
paint everybody with the same brush. It's not like everybody
in China knows kung fu, right, It's like they don't,
or everybody in South Korea knows taekwondo or whatever. It's like,
you can't say that everybody in America is cocky.
Speaker 4: That's just silly.
Speaker 5: But it is, and it does seem to be the
general consensus to people outside of America. And I feel like,
of course it's incorrect, But I also feel like there's
a lot of and you know, social media, it's used
in many different ways to sway public opinion and and
to sway the general consensus in young people's minds, mostly
and there's a lot of you know, there's influencers, micro influences,
my macro influence whatever, silly, but we need less influencers
and more leaders.
Speaker 4: But we have this.
Speaker 5: Thing on social media where they would ask a relatively
will say room temperature IQ person a question like name
three cities in Europe and they can't so, and they
would ask several Americans that question and all of them,
would you know, they say something like Atlanta.
Speaker 2: Well, the idea of an ugly American, That's right, it's
sort of what that is.
Speaker 4: Are completely uneducated, educated about the rest of the world,
or use.
Speaker 2: The word correctly, ignorant.
Speaker 5: Right, So it's like, but, like I said, social media,
is you in that manner to give the impression that
Americans are dumb and that's not true?
Speaker 2: No, yeah, I would say, in a in a general sense, sure,
but I've noticed that a lot on social media.
Speaker 4: For the record, I hate social media.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not a huge fan. I only really use
it to promote the podcast.
Speaker 5: Which is understandable. But like, right, but just scroll and
the scroll and the scroll, like shoot me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, mindless waste of time. Absolutely, you become a slave
to the thing. My fourteen year old son's phone broke
and he was the worst thing in the world. Well, yes,
he's lost right now and he kind of do need
him to have a phone so I know what's going
on and when to pick him up and all that's
the track he's whereabout. Yes, but this is like you know,
I mean right now, I think it's pretty tough. Oh,
we've absolutely tunnel visioned our kids. Yeah, I think for him,
it's honestly a tough thing. And he gets a lot
of I guess there's some stuff on there that that's sure.
Speaker 4: Like anything, if you look for something educational, you find it.
Speaker 2: What about humanity as a whole? And I say that
that's a deep question. Well it is a deep question.
But I'll ask you that because you were in Ireland,
you grow up there, then you now you're Joint Task Force.
You've you've seen things that Dan and I will never see.
You've experienced things that we've never experienced.
Speaker 4: And yet you've and you've.
Speaker 2: Been to different continents, not just I mean you've been
on different continents. And what is it about humanity?
Speaker 4: I truly believe that everybody everywhere in the world are
the same. I really believe that, And I've I've been
in contact with a lot of different people from a
lot of different cultures, and we all just want to
be happy. We all want to love and be loved. Yeah,
we don't want to fight, right, Nobody wants to fight. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I fought for a long time in the Special Operations Group.
Did I want to?
Speaker 2: Sometimes?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 5: It was sometimes it was a kick, you know, But
at certain times, like I said to you before, the
person on.
Speaker 4: The other side of that radical is a dad, is
a brother, is a.
Speaker 5: Son, is a husband, and it and he's in the
same position. I am not only that though, like to like,
you know, to foreshadow that, or you know, to go
off on a different way. I think everybody is the same.
I really do think everybody is the same. I've never
met anybody regardless of rank, you know, how much money
they have in the bank, how much influence they have
or don't have. Everybody is the same. Every single person
I've encountered is the same. We all want the same
basic things.
Speaker 2: I was thinking that we know the idea of many
people say we're all one, We're all one, and I go, boy,
I have a couple of beliefs. Words don't teach experience
us right. So this idea that we're all wont easy
to say, but I believe that because at our core,
I think we all want the basic same things, to
be loved, to be heard. I always think people just
want to be heard more than anything. I think that's
a great example of the election. I think you had
many people who feel like they don't count. And here's
somebody who's going to count for me, and you know,
and and stick up for me and show no matter what,
and I don't have to align with everything whatever. But
there are these things and I find that just very
interesting that you see that, because man, but you can
really put it into an ugly place, absolutely, you know,
you really can, and you go for what.
Speaker 4: Well, they say that the outward reflection of what you
see is the inward reflection of your inner self. Right, yeah, sure,
so they say whatever you notice about the world is
probably your internal turmoil. Yeah you know. So if you
think all the world's horrible, everyone's killing.
Speaker 5: Yes, it's something's inside you, right, It's like, yeah, it's you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I always think like most of our life has
lived in our head. You know, you could have an incident,
well you would know, I mean, you have an incident happened,
and you get three different stories from three different people
an hour later.
Speaker 4: They're all different.
Speaker 5: There are three sides to a coin heads tails in
the Outer Ring.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's interesting. Never heard the Outer Ring,
But you're right, that's true. It's very true. What do
you love about America? Is there anything that jumps out
besides football?
Speaker 5: Well, speaking about football, since everybody's wearing Bill's attire, and yes, yes,
I will say that Josh Allen is better than last year,
although still not.
Speaker 2: Where he needs to be.
Speaker 4: I bee, you know he's getting better, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm a foreigner.
Speaker 3: What do I know? I'm irish.
Speaker 5: I don't believe he's as elite as everyone claims to be.
If I compare him to other actual elite quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, is he good?
Speaker 3: Sure? Good?
Speaker 2: Can he be better?
Speaker 4: Absolutely?
Speaker 5: And I don't think he's where he needs to be
right now. He needs to still improve, but he had
he is better.
Speaker 4: Than last year.
Speaker 2: Am I a Bills fan? No?
Speaker 4: What was.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say? No?
Speaker 5: I like good games, I like good players. I don't
really align myself with quote unquote good teams.
Speaker 2: I really like, you know, good.
Speaker 5: Quarterbacks and good receivers, and I love every game I watch.
Speaker 4: It's not like I'm fanatical about one team. Right. My
wife loves the Bengals. Joe Burrow is amazing.
Speaker 3: She loves Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2: I love, but he is he is a good quarterback.
Speaker 5: But your quarterback is only as good as your receiver,
and so you it's a it's a combo, right.
Speaker 4: What what?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: When was the first time you saw American football? I
want to say, was a kid in Ireland? Now was
speaking of which there's gonna be games in Ireland?
Speaker 6: Do they think there's Yeah, they think they're gonna ad
They're gonna be eight games in Europe, and they think
the eighth game is going to be in Ireland. College
football has actually grown tremendously in Ireland for some reason.
Speaker 3: They play a game there every year.
Speaker 5: Now, I really don't think it's going to take traction
as much as the federation, you know, I don't think
it's going to take as much traction as they may
hope or want.
Speaker 2: Is it going to take traction? Sure? It's cool.
Speaker 4: It's different. It's like rugby.
Speaker 5: Cool jerseys and cool helmets and stuff. It's like cooler,
you know, like rugby sometimes when you watch it it's
kind of born.
Speaker 3: Well, you can't.
Speaker 2: I can't just sare out scrummage after scrummage. I'd try
to watch football right now.
Speaker 6: The forward pass is the greatest invention in pro sports history,
bar none. It changed everything because football really is rugby
if you eliminate the forward pass.
Speaker 3: Like like the reason why.
Speaker 6: They were pads in football because President Roosevelt Teddy the
first one was gonna throw the sport out the window
because guys who are dying playing football unless they added
made it safer. So they added helmets and pads, and
someone came up with the idea. I forgot, who hey,
what if we threw the ball forward instead? Oh wow,
that's a great idea.
Speaker 3: Changed everything, right.
Speaker 5: So, like I said, I don't align myself with any
particular team, although I do because I'm in the same room.
Speaker 2: I have to watch Bengals, gotcha, right, And I enjoy
I enjoy watching them.
Speaker 5: And we watched the Bills too. They had a great
game today. I wins a win. It was ugly, I mean,
but yeah, it's I've noticed that the Bills in the
generally speaking, in the first in the second quarter, I
kind of mid can't say nowadays.
Speaker 2: And then in the third and the fourth they step
it up. They seem to adjust it halftime. I don't know,
it's like they had get.
Speaker 4: The second wind and they're like, okay, now we're smashing heads. Yes,
you know, yeah, that's interesting. What do we get right?
Do you think in America?
Speaker 2: I know that's a really broad question, and maybe of
a difficult one and maybe even a dumb one. But
what do we get right? Is there something on the
you know, is the freedom's right? Is the freedom of
the press right? I would assume it's pretty said.
Speaker 5: I mean, you said freedoms, but there are a lot
of freedoms that are being taken away or being capped.
Let's say, so, for example, in New York State, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Sure you can have a pistol.
Speaker 4: But you have to have a permit, you have to
do a course. Now that's because of the you know,
because of local or whatever. But regardless, you still have
that freedom to have a pistol permit or have a
pistol on your waistband.
Speaker 2: Now in New.
Speaker 5: York there's a lot of loopholes you have to jump through,
but you still have that ability to have a concealed
carry permit and a pistol in your quote unquote pocket
whatever you're gonna call it. In Ireland, you do not
have that freedom. Sure, there's a lot of red tape
in New York, but you can have it. There's a
lot of freedoms when it comes to like, you know,
cars for example, like big power hungry V eight muscle
cars that are guzzling gasoline. Right in Ireland, we don't
have that. We're either diesel or like one point two
liter inlane three you have to turn you air conditioned
enough to go up the hill, or you have a tesla.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: So yeah, good luck with that, right.
Speaker 5: So, like I said, you want something, you can get
it in America absolutely without a doubt, whether it's easy,
like we're for some whatever reason, we're talking about guns.
If you're in a constitutional carry state, you can just
go and buy one, or if it's New York you
have to jump through loopholes, but you can still have one.
So no matter what state you're in, you can have one.
So that in that sense, whatever you want in the
United States, you know, pending in parentheses, you can get
it or have it or do it. I think that's
that's the biggest thing America as a whole has gotten, right, Yeah,
I always that's based off the Constitution.
Speaker 4: It is off the constitution, right, that is.
Speaker 2: And I would always kind of kind of go more
to the libertarian in that I don't care what you
do as long as it's not hurting me or so.
Speaker 4: My wife and I are traditional libertarian.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that, you know, I probably would
lean more that way. I don't care as long as
it's not going to hurt somebody. I don't like the
less government is better. I always well, I always think
that the government kind of fox stuff up. It just
gets too big, which I hate human suffering. But sometimes
they even go boy even that they're going to get
wrong in a way to help people that you almost
wish that could be privatized, you know, the gig economy.
I mean, you know, you don't have to get a
you have to have a license, you have to have
a registered car. Okay, I understand that, but you're not
getting a medallion to be a taxi driver. And that's
a government bureaucracy that you know. So it does seem
like some of those things, if we can just eliminate
the man, sometimes things run smooth.
Speaker 5: Well, I remember it coming back from Pennsylvania and I
don't know if it's sixty five or seventy five or coming,
you know, on the road, and all of a sudden,
the same dead straight road that goes on like from
seventy five down to thirty five for no reason whatsoever.
Speaker 4: And of course the sheriff for a troopers for.
Speaker 5: And then two hundred jags down the road it comes
back up to sixty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, what was that for.
Speaker 5: It's the same stretch of road. Some things like that
don't make sense to me. It almost feels like a trap.
It is just a trap to make money, it is.
So they're cast grabs and that's fine whatever whatever.
Speaker 6: That's interesting story where like when you were with AMR
where you had to go through a training simulation where
they put you in this like house and they faked
everybody's injuries and that they said, Suresha, you will not
get through this quote unquote alive and you beat the text.
Speaker 2: Remember that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great story.
Speaker 5: Yes, I told Dan a story about So there's a
there's a thing called sim day or simulation day. It's
a whole entire day of different types of scenarios that
would probably happen in your everyday life, and you guess
that they happen.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 5: I went in with a partner, Roots or Roots was
her name. She was from Ukraine. I think she still
works there. We came into the room, pitch black couldn't
see a damn thing. I of course, I always have
a light on me. I'm like, but it's magnetic. I'm
like clack, and it's like lit up the whole room.
There's like medicine empty, medicine balls everywhere, and like insulin
you know, sharps everywhere. Well not the actual needle, but
it looked like an insulin pen. And so they were
like totally irate, shouting like get the hell out of
this room, and like a real situation. Well, there was
a a patient on this on the chair having DK
diabetic acoptosis, where you can where your your blood sugar
is either super high or super low and you're basically
in a in a kind of a coma. Let's say,
I'm you know, simplifying everything. And so he's sitting there
and the first thing I see is a blue gun.
It's a simulation firearm kind of like behind his butt.
So I nudged my partner. I'm like, look at that,
and she looked at it and she was like, oh
my gosh. I'm like, I took it out. No, I
did a little pinch and I put it under the
chair and I kicked it all the way under the sofa.
And he also had a knife in his pocket. He's
actual personal knife that he wasn't going to use for
the simulation.
Speaker 2: I picked that up.
Speaker 5: I put it up on the shelf and the simulation
started going through its paces and stuff like that. And
then he woke up and he started getting really like agitated,
and he was looking for the training pissed and he
couldn't find it. And then he looked for his knife
and he couldn't find that, so he cleaned his fist.
Speaker 4: He's like, if you don't.
Speaker 5: Get out of here, I'm gonna, you know, kill you
or whatever. So I left, but I was pulling my partner.
She was like, no, we have to stay here and
help him.
Speaker 2: Like, no, we don't.
Speaker 4: We're getting out of here, and we're calling NORPD.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 5: So I left the room and she was still inside
and I'm like, get out.
Speaker 4: Get out of there, and I had to pull her out, and.
Speaker 5: So the simulation you know end or whatever, you know,
and they were so pissed at me that they had
to change the entire simulation because nobody noticed the pistol
prior and nobody ever took the knife out. Wow, So
I completely changed the game to the point where he
had to like hide.
Speaker 2: Is that all that you think? That's all your your
military training? Absolutely?
Speaker 5: Yeah, And they had to change the whole entire simulation there,
and the that was that's funny you remember that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's anything scared you. I know that's a silly question,
but just think about like, you know here you do
special ops basically right joint, you're over in other countries.
Speaker 4: Then you go to a.
Speaker 2: Country for I guess a woman originally, but you get
there and then you build the school.
Speaker 4: There's like it is there?
Speaker 2: What's the mindset?
Speaker 4: Is it? I guess fear has its perks, S does
if you're Yeah, that's a great way to put it.
Speaker 5: Adrenaline can help you get out of situation sometimes, yeah,
and if you don't have adrenaline, So just so everybody
has adrenaline pumping through their body if they're getting into
a fistfight, a knife fight, a gunfight about whatever, going
really fast in the car. The difference is controlling that adrenaline.
If someone says to you, I'm afraid of nothing, they're
probably a psychopath. You probably have no feelings and no
frontal cortex at all. Everybody he fears something like if
I'm a perfect example. I was at speedway one day
pumping gas and this guy came up behind me.
Speaker 2: He's like, you don't fucking see me. I'm like, excuse me.
Speaker 4: He's like, you didn't see me fucking coming in there.
I'm like in the exit, he's like, yeah, you didn't
see me fucking coming in there.
Speaker 5: He was like having a bad day, and he had
a T shirt that said arm me across it. For
whatever reason, he was just having a really bad day.
And I could feel the blood pressure building up in
my neck because I thought fists were gonna start flying,
if not worse. So the adrenaline helped me to prepare
for what might come. But I talked him down. And
that's the difference between controlling your fear and adrenaline and
just letting your adrenaline take control, because I could have
turned around and just clocked him, because my adrenaline just
went out of control and just you know, bang, you know,
and then I would have been in jail, sued, whatever,
because I was wrestler. So anybody who says they're not
afraid is lying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what what is your mindset? Mostly though positive that
you can pretty much do anything. I mean, yeah, that's
quite a very career when you think about anything. No,
but I mean I understand, right within limits. Everybody should
know their own limits. A man should definitely kind of
know where your skill set is. But to be able
to do all these different things takes a confidence and
there are so many things.
Speaker 4: That could be a setback.
Speaker 2: And I always say, don't tell you know, go forth
and tell no one whatever your plans are, because keep
them in secret. Yeah, whoever loves whoever loves you, is
gonna tell you all the reasons. It's not gonna work,
not to be an asshole to you, right because they
are concerned or they've had an experience or whatever. But
that's not your experience.
Speaker 5: Well, behind every great man is a great woman. Yeah,
So I believe that, I honestly believe, I really do.
I believe that I'm not talking to just about your
So I'm talking about your mom, your grandmother.
Speaker 4: Your aunt.
Speaker 5: I believe that there is a foundation between every in
every good man with a good woman, whether that's your
mom or your spouse, you know, and vice versa. I'm
sure behind every good woman is a good.
Speaker 4: Man, right, It's just the way it is.
Speaker 5: And I believe that if I wanted to do something
right now, whatever that may be business wise, academically, physically,
I am absolutely positive that my wife Tanil would say,
you got it. I absolutely believe that, and that confidence
from your better half gives you more. You can say, okay,
I can. If she believes in me, I better believe
myself because if I don't, I'm an idiot because if
she sees that in me, I don't know why I
don't see that.
Speaker 4: I just met you, but I don't think there's a
whole hell of a lot you couldn't do well.
Speaker 5: I can squat four hundred pounds, four hundred and twenty pounds.
I might my knee cat yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: I have a kid who probably was I think he
was up around five Jordan, oh really yeah, and then
he tore his laborham.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't want to shoulder or shoulder not from that.
Speaker 2: Knowing your limits is good ideaeah stories, popped it out
of socket, just had surgery, the whole thing. But he's, uh,
weightlifting is sort of his life too, so that's the.
Speaker 4: Sort of the thing.
Speaker 2: Well, this has been a lot of fun. I really
appreciate you coming in.
Speaker 3: Thanks.
Speaker 2: I think it's great. I love Oh wait wait wait
wait wait hang on Race and Randy update maybe uh
maybe available live from Newark. Joey Logano the twenty twenty
four champ. Well, wow, he called it too, Yeah, he
did so every year.
Speaker 6: I interview rac and Randy for the Times Wayne County
and asked him, I go, who's winning it all?
Speaker 3: And I said, it's Nascar. It's hard to pick one
out of whippy driver.
Speaker 6: So he gives me five drivers and he usually like
nails it.
Speaker 3: And he nailed it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he did nail it. If you had money on it.
Speaker 3: No, not really. I should have, but no I didn't.
Speaker 4: No money.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 6: I I I bet on football and I lose. I
went four and two today. It's not bad with the spread,
you know, you know, you know how I lost. I
thought Indy would cover. Oh with the bills, I thought
the bills would I thought Indy would cover And then
San Francisco gave Tampa Bay six and a half.
Speaker 3: Spread was three and a half. It was a trap game.
Sures that the trap was on us who said it
was a trap game. But the Bills didn't play well.
Fortunately well. Alan didn't play well, defense played well. Joe
Flacco certainly did not play well at all.
Speaker 2: His Alan moments.
Speaker 6: He had his moments, but like Alan, he may be
the reason Dalton Kacaid might be out for a while.
That one pass in the second quarter where it should
have been a touchdown. If Allen actually sets his feet
and throws the ball on that third down play and
Kakaid doesn't have to reach for it, he doesn't land
on his knee, they think that's how he got hurt.
Speaker 2: Uh, Well, we'll close it out.
Speaker 4: We'll talk to Randy another time. Shortia, I have had
I find it really.
Speaker 2: Interesting all this stuff, if you've done, I think it's
fascinating and it was a pleasure being here. I think
you need to write a Hallmark movie about you and
your wife. Well, I think you should have my wife
in here. I would love to have you. Love her. Yeah, absolutely,
she's smart and she's an acupuncturist.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she'll be with my migraines.
Speaker 2: I think it's great. I love that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: I think I think.
Speaker 2: Shortia I sort of said it a little while ago.
Everything we need is already here, right, we don't need
this synthetic.
Speaker 6: She could put the needles in my back and tell me,
are you taking this?
Speaker 3: I go, yeah, how'd you know? I could tell by
the stop that.
Speaker 2: Okay, Danny's been bragging about you for a while.
Speaker 4: By the way, oh really both, yes, yes, I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and saying like, you know, wow, he's my supplement guy,
and I always go, Danny, he's got too many stuff.
And I've said that too.
Speaker 3: I know, he says my wife.
Speaker 2: I know you know more than I do for Shortia,
for Dan Barillo, the Buffalo bills. Man, I'm Bill Moran.
We'll see you tomorrow. WA can't either looking or counter
nuer to a Sila sit somewhere in the Flatto
Speaker 4: Go by size and what it