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Speaker 1: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to Pony

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Express Radio. I am Paul Fahrenheit as always, once again

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filling in for our great President who is still hunting

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animals in Africa. I am joined by four other illustrious

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gentlemen for this week. So ladies and gentlemen, please welcome

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back mister Pete Canyonas.

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Speaker 2: How are you, sir?

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Speaker 3: Doing well? Let's do this.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming back, Pete and also joining me

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this evening is mister Raging Managle. How are you, sir?

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Speaker 4: Doing great?

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Speaker 1: Thank you sir, And of course our special guest joining

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us this evening is mister Semiagogue. How are you this evening?

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Speaker 2: I am very well, gentlemen, happy to be here. I

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never joined o GC, but I seem to be friends

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with almost all of you, so very happy to be

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here and hang out again.

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Speaker 1: Yes, a friend of the club indeed, and you're always

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welcome here, and I thank you very much for joining

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us this evening. It's been a unfortunately it's been a

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rather slow news week and a rather slow news day,

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so you know, nothing really major has happened, so we

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only have a couple of a couple of stories to

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talk about of of some of some import though, first

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and foremost, starting us off this evening, Secretary of Defense

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Pete Hegseth, who you know, despite some you know, one

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or two blotches here there, has been doing relatively well recently.

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I believe he ordered that the USS Harvey Milk, which

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is a part of a class of naval I'm not

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a navy guy, so I don't know anything about ships,

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but a part of a class of ships be renamed.

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What it will be renamed to has not yet been announced,

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But personally, I think this is a great step in

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the right direction. People like Harvey Milk need to be

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dammed in memory and completely forgotten about.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, apparently it's some sort of oiler, which, as far

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as I can understand, it is the designed in a

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support role. I guess it's like a coaling ship from

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back in the days of Teddy Roosevelt's Great White Fleet.

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It provides fuel and ammunition and supplies. And as best

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I can tell, this whole class of ships has been

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named after civil rights leaders.

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Speaker 2: So you know you've got your John Lewis, your Thurgood Marshall,

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your Ruth Bader gurg. Yeah, the John Lewis class of oilers.

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The whole class is named after civil rights figures.

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Speaker 3: Well my two frequent guests on the show and also

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on the Young Jay Burdens show, Clay Martin Formers back

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op he said, we should really just rename it the

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USS Celebrity and leave it at that.

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Speaker 2: Controversial.

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Speaker 4: If I might jump in here, I'm just gonna go

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ahead and take the whole conversation.

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Speaker 1: Is the Steeler thing man?

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Speaker 4: All right? So yes, this is the USNS Harvey Milk.

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These ships are, of course supply ships. They do underway replenishment,

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a very important function for the US Navy, which allows

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them to do replenishment of fuel and supplies at c

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so you don't have to pull into port to do

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refueling operations. That sort of thing very operationally critical. These

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are high value units. They're strategically important units, which is

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why the symbolism has been applied the way it has.

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But they're also not combat units, so it allows them

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to to kind of sort of get away with it

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up until now. And so the John Lewis Class is

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a replacement for the Henry J. Kleiser Class, which is

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the the you know classes ship which is doing the

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exact same job. It looks almost exactly the same visually,

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unless you're like a subject matter expert, the ship that

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layout is almost perfectly identical, just from like an average

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observer's point of view. And I think this is a

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good I am to point out that this is an

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attempt not just symbolically but literally to turn the fleet

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into a different direction and on a new course. This is,

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of course, after everybody might remember from last year the

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USNS Big Horns collision and mishap, and that came out

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fairly shortly after they announced the the John Lewis Class,

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and that the US as Harvey Milk would would even

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be a thing. So this is literally hag Seth trying

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to use the symbolic renaming of this particular ship to

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to get to the Navy going in a different direction.

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And as we have logged on this particular program, the

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Navy is not in a good spot by any means.

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Speaker 1: No, absolutely, real quick, I just irony came in my

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profile pictures is at is rear Admiral Bird and I

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don't know anything about the Navy, so I guess that's

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stolen valor. But no, yes, the United States is a

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naval empire where a fallisocracy. This is a large part

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of the reason why our capital is still in Washington,

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d C. Because right next door to Washington, d C

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is the Chesapeake Bay, and the Chesapeake Bay is probably

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the best single piece of naval staging geography on the planet.

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It's something like, I think, like several dozen, if not

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several hundred ports on top of each other. Every river

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on all of those peninsulas is its own port, and

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there are several sub rivers and subports along the way.

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of American shipbuilding, Newport News, Norfolk, places like that, And

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that's a large part of the reason why Washington, d C.

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less stretches from that city down to Virginia Beach in

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that area, and we use that naval staging area functionally

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to manage the rest of the world, to manage global

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trade lanes and the like. However, I mean, I think, actually,

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you know, zi Hand's conclusions are horrible, but his analysis

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is usually pretty good. And zy Hand's analysis when he

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states that if the United States is a naval empire

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wanted to maintain functionally protected trade lanes. It would be

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building thousands upon thousands of destroyers and a great deal

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of ships like this, like the hopefully soon to be

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not John Lewis class to supply them. But we're not.

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Most of our navy is mostly tied up into these

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very large carriers, these nuclear carriers, which are functionally one

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rocket away from being at the bottom of the ocean.

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And they're you know, and even if even if they

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were used properly, are really used for clabboring a near

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peer force which isn't immediately forthcoming on the world stage,

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at least in my in my judgment, I could be wrong.

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But daniu, gentlemen, have any comments on that is is

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you know, not even not even talking about the age

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of the ships that we have. But do you any

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any of you have any comments on the on the

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state of America as a maritime empire's capability to force projectancy?

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Speaker 4: Well, as we mentioned last year, the the official government

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sources are now directly reporting that shipbuilding is substantially behind

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we law like you can look this up. But the

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f FG sixty two, the new Constellation class frigate, which

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is supposed to be a basically a direct American knockoff

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of some of the frenchhit Italian frigates which have been

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around now for several years. And it's also supposed to

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be a pure competitor vessel of the Russian and Chinese

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latest and greatest frigate classes. Those that's three years behind

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as of last year. So I mean, well, one of

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the great benchmarks is to see if that three year

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mark actually gets reduced by any time period, or if

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it consistently stays three years, a year or two years

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into the future. That's going to be a huge benchmark.

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I think the other huge benchmark is, of course, symbolically,

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this is one ship, and you're not actually attacking the

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symbol of the John Lewis Class, right, You're not. You're

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not taking away the name of the class. You're just

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renaming one singular ship, which you're not actually fundamentally contesting

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that ground symbolically.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like something you know, timed in terms

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of pr to coincide with people's uh, you know, views

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about the business of a Pride month and it being

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pushed you know, so much front and center by our government,

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and you know, these associations with the military we don't

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have to get into what a sordid figure milk And

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was because you could almost assume that, or indeed assume it.

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So yeah, I have one question that I wanted to

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bring up, just you know, for the military guys here.

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I never confirmed it. I heard that we were forbidden

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from returning to naming the US military basis after Confederate

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generals by some sort of legislation. Is it true that

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heg Seth or whomever you know is on his team

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came up with this idea of just finding a different

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guy named Benning for example.

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 2: Is that what was actually done?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I was actually discussing that at a of all places,

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a surplus store today. I was actually I was discussing that, Yes,

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he found other like like a private whose last name

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was Benning, or like a sergeant whose last name was

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Bragg or something like that, who won like a Medal

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of honor, a silver star or something to that effect

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as functionally a placeholder this and it's a valiant effort

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in my judgment, It's an attempt to restore at least

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a semblance of what was lost. But you know the

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fact that their hands are tied by Congress from restoring

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the bases to their actual true names, and they have

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to they have to kind of pass this counterfeit, you

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know it. I think it really does demonstrate that even

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if and or when you get a administration or a

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regime in power, particularly because these ships, right, I think

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and Trump understands this. I saw a video of him

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once talking about how the prows of the ship need

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to be point because it's ships are an art form.

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I'm sure some of you may know that video. But

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these these the military is one of the not just

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it not only is it a means of defense, but

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if done properly, it's also a means of producing culture.

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So all of these military bases are functionally culture producing factories.

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All these ships, particularly fleet resupply ships that everyone in

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the fleet will be familiar with, because this ship, I

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would assume, resupplies all sorts of other ships. These are

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heavily symbolic culture manufacturers. And who you name them after

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is functionally who is glorified, even if the person saying

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the name doesn't even know who they are. And this

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attempt to rename I think is at least somewhat appreciated,

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but it's it's too haphazard and and it's in my opinion,

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it's it's simply resisted by most of the most of

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the entrenched middle officer class that has been heavily purged

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since the since the Obama purges.

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Speaker 2: And later on, well, yeah, we definitely sorry, Pete.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, judging by you know, going by this little speech

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that has been clipped and is making the rounds that

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you gave on on last week's live stream. If something

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doesn't change, you know, we were looking at like the USS,

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I'm on my break unless we can, you know, get

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something different going on here. So unless real change and

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these people are utterly destroyed and made into a cautionary hell.

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Speaker 2: Just to hammer the point about the importance of this

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being an opportunity to present the naval strength of the

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United States, the military strength of the United States as

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it towards the world. That's what Roosevelt was doing with

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his Great White Fleet, of course, followed around by all

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the support vessels provided by Britain, because we were basically

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being brought on to police the Pacific for them as

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an adjunct to Japan. But that's why all those ships

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were painted white, and it was called the Great White Fleet,

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and it sailed around the world saying the United States

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is now an even more significant naval power and something

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to be reckoned with. So, yeah, you've come into port

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and you're at your birth or whatever, and the people

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who are working there, well, you know, bringing in your

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supplies and the rest, they're like, you know what, who's

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this guy, Harvey Milk and and you can see immediately

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how that just would become a basis for scorn abroad.

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So I'm happy to see it. But I agree with

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you guys, it's it's it needs to go much deeper.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I think as the as the fleet continues

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to decline and and if if attempts to reform it

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are hamstrung by Congress and by other institutions, particularly entrenched

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interests within the Senior Officer Corps and the Pentagon, I

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don't see a positive future coming from that. Do any

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of you, gentlemen, have any final thoughts on the story

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before we move on?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 1: Hearing none. One of the things that this actually this

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reminds me of is not the United States not only

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has vulnerabilities and weaknesses in its fleet beyond our shores,

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but we also have a great amount of weaknesses on

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our shores, and I think nothing demonstrates that better than

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something that happened overseas recently that I'm sure you've all heard,

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a massive drone swarm attack was carried out by Ukraine

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on Russia. I think there were a whole bunch of

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I think nuclear capable bombers parked down on an air

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strip that the Ukrainians were able to smuggle in drones

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in semi trucks if I remember correctly, they were driven

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up very close to this airfield and they were simply

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released and they suicided onto these bombers, which are strategic

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nuclear capable on this air strip. And even if it's

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relatively minor in terms of how it will affect the

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Ukraine or or how it will affect negotiations, as it's

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proven to be, it hasn't caused any change in demands

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or negotiations that I've seen so far. It is a

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very heavily symbolic act in the minds of military theorists

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in the world over because it demonstrates that fourth generation warfare,

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in the fact that you know, everything can be a

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weapon about fifth generation warfare is a marketing term. It's

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not real. Fourth generation warfare is the correct way to

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refer to it, where we're just about anything can be

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utilized as a weapon. Civilian supply line, civilian industries, media,

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et cetera. And anyone like the Taliban or the Huties.

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rocks and sticks, can learn very quickly how to employ

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this massive, sophisticated technology to brutal effectiveness. I think it

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demonstrates the capacity for weaknesses within within internal supply chains

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and within civil society itself. And the story doesn't end here.

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There are there are two other stories that happened this

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week that lead to this, But before we talk about them,

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do you, gentlemen, of any thoughts about this attack on

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Russian bombers in the Ukraine or in Russia?

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Speaker 3: I suppose.

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Speaker 2: Well, yes, to me, it smacks of the sort of

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emphasis on special operations and sneaky, tricky nastiness that has

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been sort of central to the warfare mythology of the

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Anglophone world since since World War Two. And you know,

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I grew up on it, you know, watching you know,

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things like the guns of Navaron or whatever with my father,

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and it's sort of been central to our thinking and

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it's also as of course the Russians themselves have pointed out,

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it's it's uh. It's basically PR in many respects uh

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and and PR has value. But I posted about this

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sometime back. You know, the the assassins, the hashishin the

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old Man of the Mountain, a la mut, you know,

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high in the Persian mountains, you have this sect of

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crazy Shiites who are willing to murder anyone and to

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sacrifice the lives of their operatives in order to like

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kill the Grand Vizier of the Seldier Empire and the

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Zamal or whatever. And they had a great deal of

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success with these absolutely brazen, wild operations, terrorist acts, you know,

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intended for political influence, these kinds of things. I'm not characterizing,

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you know, what was done in Russia exactly like that.

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waging total warfare, certainly attritional war at scale, rather than

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you know, a sequence of special operations carried out, you know,

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at a great distance from centers of supply and the

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rest the results. I think of what happened with the

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Mongols and the assassins in Persia is a cautionary tale

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they just basically marched up into the mountains to this

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previously impregnable fortress and invested it. And today there's scarcely

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one stone that remains standing atop another, and all that

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archaeologists have been able to find is broken pottery. So,

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you know, this plucky idea of the bold behind the lines, raid,

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the clever bombing and the rest, while useful as pr

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does not do a great deal for the actual war

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effort in this case of the Ukrainians, and it just

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irritates the hive of the Russian population and increases, presumably

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its resoluteness to have done with all of this. So

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I think there's something about it. Sorry I've been rather

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long winded about it, but there's something about this attachment

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to the idea of special operations and and and the

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way in which our emphasis on it, which I really

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do think comes from the Brits ultimately after World War Two,

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during and after, I think it is in some senses

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detrimental to all these other aspects of the military. I mean,

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think about Eisenhower, you know, as I recall, he was

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all about logistics, but he was perhaps one of the

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most important people at the top of you know, staff command,

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because all of these other things matter, like you know,

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oilers and refueling ships and logistic chains, and and yet

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the focus is, so far as the public is concerned,

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is all on special operations.

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Speaker 1: Well, that actually heartens me a little bit because there

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are two other stories that demonstrate that these weaknesses are

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actually completely completely existent, or at least potentially existent within

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the United States. Recently, there was an IED that was

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found in North Carolina off of the off of the

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Blue Ridge Parkway, which you see all right there. It's

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a it's a very culturally significant route. I don't think

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anyone knows who planted it there or why. I'm sure

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if someone, if someone's read follow up stories, they might

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be able to tell us. But there was an ied

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and incendiary device that says right here that was on

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the Blue Ridge Parkway. So so it very much appears

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that that these sorts of small special operations, uh you know,

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flea bites in the grand scheme of things are starting

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to come here a nation which at least very recently

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has not known a great deal of danger on our shores.

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On top of this i ed that was found recently,

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two Chinese nationals were arrested I forget in what university

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or what stay of somewhere in the Midwest, but they

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had smuggled a specific, yeah, a fungus into the United

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States that causes a blight to wheat, barley, corn rice,

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et cetera. And I'm sure you know it wouldn't have

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been as simple. Spreading blight to crops, especially crops as

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heavily as treated as those in the United States. Isn't

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that simple of a matter. But you know, it demonstrates

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that these little flea bites, these you know, thousand cuts

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of warfare could very possibly. It's one thing, in my judgment,

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to use them against a I don't want to say,

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a power with deadened nerves, like an oriental power like

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the Russians. I it's one thing to use that against them.

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But to use them against such a highly interdependent infrastructure

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that hasn't known disruptions like this for a while, such

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as the United States, I think it's very possible that

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these tactics that the public has been focused on, that

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we've been using could be employed to much greater effect

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against us than by us.

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Speaker 3: Well, it really brings up the question of how do

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we protect ourselves against this from what I understand or

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what's being reported. I think this is official that they

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just basically sent those drones into over the border rooms

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to Russia and they were released from a cargo container

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or the back of a truck. From listening to Mike

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Shelby this week, early in the week, he was talking

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about how one percent of our cargo containers are checked

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coming over coming through you being taken off a ship

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from overseas. So as those are put on trains, put

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on trucks, put you know whatever. They're just making their

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way through the through the country and pretty much open

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to anything happening, you know. I mean, no one's ever

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really I don't know if anyone's ever come up with

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the China balloon from a couple of years ago, if

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that was just an op whatever it was. The drones

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over New Jersey, I mean, I have a tendency to

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believe those are probably ours. But yeah, it seems very easy.

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It seems like it would be very easy for someone

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to pull off attacking an American city and we'd probably

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be sitting ducks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I would add that, you know, there's been

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all kinds of things going on for quite some time

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now that we intend to consider when we consider them

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at all as isolated instances rather than putting them together

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as a pattern. You know, men or probably can say

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more about it. But there was that ship I believe

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that was being refitted or certainly it was in port

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on the west coast that in which a huge fire

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broke out and destroyed many millions of dollars of you know,

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naval assets, if I remember correctly. There's of course all

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the wildfires that we've been dealing with. Certainly we've seen

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quite a bit going on with the Ukrainian special forces

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trying to derail Russian trains because as the military guys

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here probably know, the Russians emphasize rail logistics much more

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than you know, truck based road based logistics, and we

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have you know, things like trains derailing in Ohio and

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causing massive problems. So you know, I think we're wide

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open to it at present. And that's without getting into

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the whole idea of what's been sunk in concrete in

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some of our cities as a nasty surprise for later,

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you know. Across the last fifty years, a late friend

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of mine, who was involved in special forces in the military,

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said he would have he wouldn't be surprised at all

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if any number of countries had smuggled, you know, nuclear

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weapons into the United States and sun them down in

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concrete beneath the city for use later. I'm not trying

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to like freak everyone out, and I don't know that

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to be the case, but if I were a potential

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opponent of the United States, I would have seen to

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it that that would have been taken care of a

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long time ago. I have some I'm happy to know

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that there is detection for radiation on the highways. I

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remember reading some news stories about truck. I think it

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was full of Chinese toys in which some sort of

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mildly radioactive thing had been used in the paint or

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something of this sort. I'm probably messing up the details,

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but the bottom line was it was a Chinese product,

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and taken individually, there wasn't all that much radiation, but

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a truck full of the product going down the highway

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triggered the radiation detectors. So we do have some infrastructure

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in place to spot some things. I think those are

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those weird sort of white, plastically looking boxes that stick

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out over the road near truckway stations. But we're not

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entirely without defense. But you know, this is simply the

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size our land borders, our sea borders, the permeability of

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those borders means that these concerns are very, very real, indeed,

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particularly when you get involved with stuff like fungus and blights.

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In my own part of the country, there is this

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invasive species of Asian lady beetle that's just terrific. You know,

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when they spawned really badly, they fill my house and

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having to vacuum them up constantly. They were originally released

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as a way to control aphids, but as it turns out,

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I've looked into these little bugs and they carry a

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kind of microsporidia, something I guess similar to a fungus

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to which they are immune. But other species of ladybug

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in the United States it kills them. So, you know,

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for a group of people as cunning and able to

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plan long term as the Chinese, and that's just one

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example of them. You know, I don't mean to foam

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at the mouth about the chicoms.

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Speaker 1: But.

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Speaker 2: For any subtle and careful people, there are enormous opportunities

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that the public. Indeed, maybe the security and intelligence services

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tasked with defending US there. They wouldn't even really notice

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these things for some time before it was too late. Indeed,

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they may never recognize that it was not an accident,

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you know, plausible deniability being as important as it is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you might have referred to the bondhemer

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shard there semi Agauga. That was the the learning of

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a uss lh D class ship a few years ago.

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And if I remember correctly, because I was following the

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story pretty heavily back when it first broke out, they

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did eventually catch the guy who set that fire, and

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as I remember, it was a US Navy sailor of

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all things, and I think he got ucmjade and went

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to prison for a very long time.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so it wasn't an accident. It certainly wasn't an accident.

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Speaker 4: No, No, it was not. I mean that was clear

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from the beginning. Like that kind of like you don't

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to set a fire that can melt steel and metal

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of that requires very high temperatures and you need to

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have some kind of accelerant and the fuel required to

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actually do that level of damage.

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Speaker 1: So are you saying that that certain types of fire

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started by certain types of fuel cannot necessarily melt steel.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, yeah, this is where investigation comes in. It's

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just the chemistry of it of fire starting. Like everybody

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who's ever taken a fire safety course knows the fire tetrahedron, right,

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or the fire triangle if some sources prefer. But you

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need the three ingredients or the four ingredients really to

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start the fire, and if you don't have one of those,

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you can't actually do it in proper fuel. That there

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you go, there you go, there's the fire right there. Man,

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that looks bad. I've never seen that picture before. Okay, wow,

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But yes, it needs a certain chemical reaction to create

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the blaze necessary to actually melt steel bulkheads, which is

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what happened with the Bonhumber shard and why I mean

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this is actually a critical incident because it was in

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the shipyards at the time, so all of the bulkheads

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are all open. There's like, you know, ventilation shafts running

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through the ship you know, people are random people from

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the contracting yards are going through it all the time,

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uh when it was happening, and yeah, so it's just

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like it's an environment which becomes very difficult to actually

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pinpoint who done it basically because you have to eliminate

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not just ship's crew as suspects, but like the dozens

478
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,200
and dozens of contractors who work at the dockyards.

479
00:31:27,839 --> 00:31:30,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. On a completely unrelated note, sixty percent of arson

480
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,480
cases go completely unsolved.

481
00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 3: Mmm.

482
00:31:36,759 --> 00:31:39,759
Speaker 4: Is that like that Winnebago in Nashville from the twenty

483
00:31:39,799 --> 00:31:40,319
twenty era?

484
00:31:40,759 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that.

485
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,519
Speaker 2: Oh that one, Yeah, that just blew up outside the

486
00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:48,079
data center and we've never heard anything about it ever.

487
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 3: Again, there was a second there was Oh no, I

488
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,680
don't remember that one. Shit. I was thinking of something

489
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,200
else for you a many places.

490
00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: Or or or the Tesla that randomly exploded outside of

491
00:31:58,279 --> 00:32:01,440
Trump Tower in Las Vegas, and like everyone immediately forgot

492
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:02,000
about that.

493
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: Speaking speaking of tests about web test, God, I'm sorry,

494
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:09,119
I'm sorry.

495
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,799
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, there there's a there's a pattern I'm noticing

496
00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:16,119
with with a lot of the Tesla arson cases.

497
00:32:17,519 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 2: You know.

498
00:32:18,039 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 4: Uh, it reminds me because I've been going over you know,

499
00:32:21,319 --> 00:32:26,039
Burrows's Days of Rage book again recently, and uh, like

500
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,319
basically the Weather Underground and all of the related terrorist

501
00:32:29,359 --> 00:32:33,000
groups the period started, you know, doing arson to car

502
00:32:33,079 --> 00:32:35,559
dealerships for some reason, and so it just makes me

503
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,880
wonder just makes me wonder indeed.

504
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,319
Speaker 3: Well, you know the the explosion that happened recently at

505
00:32:43,359 --> 00:32:48,119
the natal clinic in California.

506
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know a lot about it.

507
00:32:51,319 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a second arrest mad in that this week,

508
00:32:55,079 --> 00:32:58,720
and reput and no one's reporting on it. Is a

509
00:32:59,079 --> 00:33:04,160
thirty one year old old American born Korean. They arrested

510
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,200
him in Poland and he was there saying he is

511
00:33:08,599 --> 00:33:16,079
he supposed to allegedly was responsible for procuring and transmitting

512
00:33:16,119 --> 00:33:18,440
to this guy one hundred and fifty pounds of what

513
00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:21,599
is anfl and fro and what am I thinking of?

514
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: Ammonium nitrate?

515
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 3: Yes, ammonium?

516
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and bloody helps him to figure out how to

517
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:28,559
use it.

518
00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So who's this guy? Why did they arrest

519
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,279
in Poland? Where do you get it from? Had? What

520
00:33:35,319 --> 00:33:37,920
the fuck's going on with this one? Yeah?

521
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: Poland is a very interesting place for him to head

522
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,039
off to, given what's going on with war there and

523
00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:45,359
not being a staging ground for you know, military and

524
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,720
intelligence assets of the West. Yeah, what is going on there?

525
00:33:56,519 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 3: This is this is what we I've been warning about,

526
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,119
and it's just I think these are just trial runs,

527
00:34:07,799 --> 00:34:13,199
my am. I you know, of course I'm just conspiracy theorists.

528
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:15,880
I got my tenofoil hat on over here. But you see,

529
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:16,880
my trial runs to me.

530
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, And if I were tasked with bringing down a

531
00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:27,719
country or sowing chaos within it internally, you know, you

532
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,639
would think that you would bring to bear a whole

533
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,280
range of things, you know, and I would go past

534
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,519
fourth generation warfare and call it unrestricted warfare. And we've seen,

535
00:34:37,519 --> 00:34:40,239
of course the economic aspects, of its, social aspects, the

536
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:45,800
cultural aspects, the encouragement of war essentially of all against all,

537
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,159
you know, the generations being encouraged to war with each other,

538
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,440
talking about this cohort and that cohort being bad. War

539
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,039
between the sexes themselves, between the men and the women,

540
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,119
War of the individual within the country against their own body,

541
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,199
cutting parts of it off, you know. And so the

542
00:35:05,199 --> 00:35:10,920
political troubles, economic, agricultural, you know, there's there's so much

543
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,119
that could be done. And you know, because I was

544
00:35:14,119 --> 00:35:17,360
born at night but not last night, I tend to

545
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:22,639
be at least as suspiciously minded as you are.

546
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:29,679
Speaker 3: P you know, Yeah, this is just too frequent, too

547
00:35:29,679 --> 00:35:35,119
frequent now, and it's getting uh yeah, it's it used

548
00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:37,000
to be. Oh, let's put it in a writer truck,

549
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,840
and well, how did they get that? It was supplied

550
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:43,079
to them by the uh, you know, by basically intelligence

551
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:48,960
intelligence agencies. But yeah, I'm sure there's some kind of

552
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,920
backing with these kind of things, but you know, right now,

553
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:58,400
we don't know, and if they're not, if they're not

554
00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:03,119
investigating and trying to figure everything out, and you know,

555
00:36:03,599 --> 00:36:06,840
once again, who knows if they're even who knows if

556
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:12,519
they would tell us, because yeah, yeah.

557
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: It brings us to a topic, you know about that

558
00:36:15,079 --> 00:36:16,519
I think is going to come up just over the

559
00:36:16,519 --> 00:36:19,800
horizon ear in a moment, which is this whole idea

560
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:24,320
of data aggregation, surveillance, how data gets used. This certainly

561
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,480
could could be turned to the purposes of ever more

562
00:36:28,519 --> 00:36:33,119
granular surveillance within the country. And I'm not, you know,

563
00:36:33,199 --> 00:36:35,239
given the fact that the threats are real, I'm not

564
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,519
against that in principle. But if we come back to

565
00:36:38,559 --> 00:36:44,880
the whole, the whole uh you know, famous Roman statement

566
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,400
about who watches the watchers? You know, I have my

567
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,199
suspicions about you know, people like feel and whether or

568
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,119
not he does ultimately have our own best interest in mind.

569
00:36:57,079 --> 00:36:59,559
I don't know, you know, one way or another. But

570
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,239
this sort of thing, and the fact that we are

571
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,239
wide open to attacks of this sort in many respects,

572
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,400
you know, sets the stage for the question about how

573
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,599
to deal with it. And the fact, you know, after

574
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,880
after nine to eleven, we certainly saw how the Patriot Bill,

575
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,280
you know, increase the yeah and increase the power of

576
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,360
people that you know, we don't think a great deal

577
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,079
of and and and it would be arguable whether or

578
00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:28,880
not it ever really did anything to make us safe.

579
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,840
I mean, I don't know how you feel, but going

580
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:36,920
through T s A and having some black guy X

581
00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:40,159
ray my shoes, it doesn't it doesn't make me feel

582
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,159
any safer, you know.

583
00:37:42,199 --> 00:37:45,599
Speaker 1: Actually that that's that's a good segue to our next

584
00:37:45,679 --> 00:37:49,639
to our next topic. But before we introduce it, we

585
00:37:49,679 --> 00:37:51,559
have it up on the screen here. Before we introduce it,

586
00:37:51,639 --> 00:37:55,519
I want to comment on on something that you talked about,

587
00:37:55,559 --> 00:37:58,000
is how this will be used to justify ever greater

588
00:37:59,199 --> 00:38:03,360
micro secure details. And I think, in all honesty, this

589
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,679
is largely because of the Frankly I think, I think

590
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:15,679
material solutions and technological solutions are a how should I say,

591
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:21,000
going to material and technological solutions or rather not innovation itself,

592
00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:25,960
but scaling pre existing and making more ubiquitous pre existing

593
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,880
solutions is a is a failure of I think, cultural

594
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:36,199
or organizational technology rather than a triumph of what I

595
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,320
guess what Spangler would call technics. And I'm not talking

596
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,960
about innovation the creation of an otherwise completely unknown technology.

597
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,440
I'm actually which is which is done by a healthy

598
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,719
and good culture rather frequently, I'm actually talking about the

599
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,800
scaling of technology. And you know, it's it's simply because people,

600
00:38:55,199 --> 00:38:59,559
people's worldview, people's blind spots, the idea that let's just say,

601
00:39:00,159 --> 00:39:02,639
certain groups of people are more predisposed have more of

602
00:39:02,679 --> 00:39:06,440
a motive to commit certain crimes than others, whether it's

603
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:11,480
through biological you know, inclination, or through ideological or religious

604
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,079
or some combination of the three. And and the fact

605
00:39:15,079 --> 00:39:19,079
that you can't filter for that, which would you know,

606
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,159
get to the problem, get get to much closer to

607
00:39:22,199 --> 00:39:25,360
the source of the problem, rather than you know, just

608
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,840
you know, making it harder for everyone, making it worse

609
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:33,039
for everyone. Yeah, I think that's that's that's a significant

610
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,039
failing of the paradigm and the stuck culture which we

611
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:42,519
currently inhabit. Though I do believe it is collapsing. But

612
00:39:42,599 --> 00:39:45,320
this does actually bring us to our next story. So

613
00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:51,880
the the Trump administration. The Trump administration recently announced that

614
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:57,119
it is partnering with Peter Thiel's Palanteer, specifically regarding the

615
00:39:57,199 --> 00:40:00,639
collection of data on American citis in the in the

616
00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:03,960
centralization of that. Pete, You actually, I think this is

617
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,039
a story you know about, because this is this is

618
00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:09,159
a great many years old and a great many even

619
00:40:09,199 --> 00:40:11,480
even decades in the making. So take it away.

620
00:40:12,639 --> 00:40:15,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember calling into conservative radio in two thousand

621
00:40:15,679 --> 00:40:19,039
and eight screaming about this, and you know, they all

622
00:40:19,079 --> 00:40:22,920
they wanted to talk about was the fact that God,

623
00:40:23,119 --> 00:40:26,440
let's see, I'm pretty sure I called in a rush once.

624
00:40:26,519 --> 00:40:29,440
Most of them were the ones that are were on serious,

625
00:40:30,039 --> 00:40:34,280
serious and ex sem at the time I was. I

626
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:41,559
became a radio satellite radio radio guy, and I would

627
00:40:41,599 --> 00:40:44,800
just tell him. I would say, look, yeah, this this

628
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,119
isn't good. They're basically taking they're taking all of our

629
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,400
They're going to be scraping all of our information. They're like, no,

630
00:40:52,519 --> 00:40:55,079
that can't be done because it's illegal to do on

631
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,719
it's illegal to do on on American soil. And and

632
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,519
I actually had the presence of mind back then, I

633
00:41:01,559 --> 00:41:03,840
go just get another country to do it, and that's

634
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,400
exactly what we did. It ended, that's exactly what we

635
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,840
ended up doing. I also have I'm pretty sure that

636
00:41:11,079 --> 00:41:13,599
Pallenteer is the inspiration for you know, one of the

637
00:41:13,599 --> 00:41:18,880
best TV shows ever, Person of Interest, The Machine and that. Well,

638
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:24,480
when this story came out, I'm, you know, obviously everybody

639
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,079
wants talk about Peter Teal, Peter Tel Peter Teel, Yeah,

640
00:41:28,119 --> 00:41:30,760
and I'm you know, you can't. You can't trust him.

641
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,840
You don't know what his intentions are. If his intentions

642
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,920
line up with yours, it's probably going to be an accident.

643
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,079
And that's what we've said, all that we said since

644
00:41:39,119 --> 00:41:41,519
the beginning when we started tracking the PayPal mafia, is like,

645
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,000
these guys aren't on our side, but they may. It

646
00:41:45,039 --> 00:41:47,440
may be better than what we're than where we were headed.

647
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,840
But Alex Karp is a Marxist, Alex Karp is a

648
00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:54,519
I wouldn't trust him. And yeah, he's like, oh, this

649
00:41:54,679 --> 00:41:56,400
is what we used to take down all the right

650
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,199
wing groups in Europe. And I'm thinking to myself, well,

651
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,119
first of all, you don't of any you're not giving

652
00:42:01,199 --> 00:42:02,960
us any proof of that. Second of all, you're a

653
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,840
born liar. Third of all, you want your stock to

654
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:10,039
go up, so I don't believe you. I'm not saying that,

655
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,159
you know, and just look at him. Physiogomy tells you everything.

656
00:42:14,519 --> 00:42:21,079
I'm not. I'm not saying that we you know, we

657
00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:24,039
can trust that, we'll trust in the plan and everything.

658
00:42:24,519 --> 00:42:30,079
You know. I'm saying that this is this is technology

659
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,679
that has been out there and operating for seventeen to

660
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:41,800
twenty years. And what Trump is saying, what the Trump's

661
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:46,760
announcement is, I think it's more of a revelation than

662
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,119
it is an announcement because I think that this is

663
00:42:49,119 --> 00:42:52,039
what they've been doing all along, and it's just you know, hey,

664
00:42:52,039 --> 00:42:53,480
this is what we're going to be doing, and he's

665
00:42:53,519 --> 00:42:57,199
just it's just really a you know, you know, kind

666
00:42:57,199 --> 00:42:59,719
of coming clean. Not saying he's coming clean for us

667
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,559
because because he loves us, but you know, this is

668
00:43:02,559 --> 00:43:04,199
what we're going to do, and hey, you know, this

669
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,079
is how we're going to protect you. I mean, this

670
00:43:07,119 --> 00:43:15,559
is if you're at all paying attention in the last

671
00:43:15,559 --> 00:43:18,119
twenty years, you knew exactly what this was. They claim

672
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,599
they're responsible for finding Islamavid Lad and I think Olamavid

673
00:43:21,639 --> 00:43:25,760
lad was found because somebody just ratted him out, because

674
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,800
that's the way things normally happen pretty much everywhere in

675
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,599
every circle on Earth. I don't know how much of

676
00:43:34,639 --> 00:43:36,719
a big deal this is. I don't know that this

677
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,760
is something new. I think it's just something old and

678
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,000
they're just telling us about it.

679
00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:45,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely not something new, because I was around

680
00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:49,280
paying attention to this shit shortly after the you know,

681
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:54,239
the stuff with nine to eleven, and I watched the

682
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,400
company that I had with partners, you know, all the

683
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,440
canals of money shifted, how they flowed with the you know,

684
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,719
sort of pumping up of the security state, with the

685
00:44:05,039 --> 00:44:08,079
Patriot Act and all of the rest. And I remember specifically,

686
00:44:08,119 --> 00:44:09,639
I just checked now and found it. There was a

687
00:44:09,679 --> 00:44:14,000
company called Choice Point, and in the early two thousands,

688
00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:18,280
Choice Point it was a data aggregation company based in Alfaretta, Georgia,

689
00:44:18,559 --> 00:44:20,679
you know, so it was basically near Atlanta, where I

690
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,519
was working at the time, and they specialized in collecting

691
00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:26,880
and selling personal information, including it was a private company,

692
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:31,280
including data from your DMV records, and they used it

693
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:36,159
for government and commercial commercial purposes. And there was some

694
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:42,000
controversy about them buying DMV information, and all of it

695
00:44:42,079 --> 00:44:43,920
just sort of got railroaded through at the time. And

696
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,440
I remember that Choice Point was a company that many

697
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:51,159
other companies used to basically do their due diligence on

698
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:51,960
you before.

699
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:52,559
Speaker 3: They hired you.

700
00:44:53,119 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, at least at least twenty years this sort

701
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,159
of thing has been going on, all the way down

702
00:44:59,199 --> 00:45:04,559
to the whole business of using a at least superficially

703
00:45:05,599 --> 00:45:09,079
private company in order to do things that you wouldn't

704
00:45:09,159 --> 00:45:12,119
otherwise be able to do given you know, record keeping

705
00:45:12,159 --> 00:45:16,599
requirements and you know congressional oversight. So yeah, it's been

706
00:45:16,599 --> 00:45:19,000
going on for a while. I think you know, when

707
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,320
it's time to railroad, they're going to railroad. The only

708
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,239
other thing I would add to this is that I believe,

709
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,079
you know, I'm not a big fan of this idea

710
00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:33,559
of ever more granular surveillance, though again I don't think

711
00:45:33,599 --> 00:45:36,000
that there's much we can do about it. But I

712
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,960
should point out that while I wouldn't call it an

713
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,119
excuse or a justification, there is an explanation for it.

714
00:45:42,519 --> 00:45:45,199
I believe that you know, the idea that AI is

715
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,559
a weapon and that we are in an arms race

716
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,639
relative to AI in some real sense. You know, it's

717
00:45:53,679 --> 00:45:58,519
not just a pretext to get more surveillance in on

718
00:45:58,559 --> 00:46:02,199
the native population. I think they're really is an arms race,

719
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,920
so to speak, at least between the United States and

720
00:46:06,039 --> 00:46:10,400
China as regards AI. And one of the most important things,

721
00:46:10,599 --> 00:46:13,400
insofar as I understand AI, to make it more effective

722
00:46:13,559 --> 00:46:17,440
is defeat it on ever larger data sets. And you

723
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,559
can be sure that the Chinese government is going to

724
00:46:20,599 --> 00:46:23,199
be willing to do that with the data that's available

725
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,559
to it, and so its models get trained with more

726
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:30,239
information and become accustomed to fine tuning and making more

727
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:34,960
effective the processing of all of that information. And so

728
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,639
in response, it seems that we would need to train

729
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,800
our models on ever greater sources of information and the

730
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:47,639
record keeping digital records available, even if they're in a

731
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:52,159
totally mixed up state with incompatibilities. The data and information

732
00:46:52,199 --> 00:46:54,960
available to the United States in the form of government

733
00:46:55,039 --> 00:46:58,239
records certainly is going to go back much more deeply

734
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:03,760
and thoroughly than comparable I would assume Chinese records. So

735
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,400
I had long thought that part of the whole Doge project,

736
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,280
in addition to you know, all the superficial front end

737
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,159
stuff about increasing government efficiency. Basically, I thought to myself,

738
00:47:15,159 --> 00:47:17,079
this is just a great way for the tech bros

739
00:47:17,119 --> 00:47:20,440
to get in and with a public mandate, to start

740
00:47:20,519 --> 00:47:24,119
to crack open sources of information that the government previously

741
00:47:24,199 --> 00:47:26,800
kept kind of closely held. And indeed, we heard a

742
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:31,599
fair amount from you know, the news sources over the

743
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,480
last few months about how you know, Elon was going

744
00:47:34,519 --> 00:47:37,639
after this information or that information, and previously it hadn't

745
00:47:37,679 --> 00:47:40,519
been brought together and aggregated in one place, and just

746
00:47:40,599 --> 00:47:43,840
looking at the uh the information you know, scanning the

747
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,920
net about it now it seems God, I'm talking about

748
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,000
the early two thousands and I just called it the net.

749
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:50,639
Speaker 3: The net.

750
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,639
Speaker 2: Next I'll call it the web. Some of the people

751
00:47:54,639 --> 00:48:00,360
who are involved with Elon Musk's Department of Government Officialcy

752
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:05,960
have direct ties to Palanteer or other field funded ventures,

753
00:48:06,199 --> 00:48:08,360
so that that might be part of what's going on here.

754
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,199
That was a lot, It was all good.

755
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: It was just man. The whole AI arms race thing,

756
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,639
I think, you know, a great deal of that is

757
00:48:23,119 --> 00:48:26,280
hamstrung by the fact that the religion of the people

758
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:30,400
developing AI prevents it from using proper models. So I

759
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,800
think a cringe walker was was tweeting about this earlier

760
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,039
is that the AI has started is starting to train

761
00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:39,599
itself to lie to its own developers in order to

762
00:48:40,079 --> 00:48:47,360
in order to properly train itself on information. I didn't

763
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:48,400
have anything further than that.

764
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I certainly don't disagree at all.

765
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: Who would have thought the creation of Skynet was done

766
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:02,719
because progressive liberals, uh, you know, enforced this AI to

767
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,719
follow their religion, which is easily just proven by five

768
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,679
minutes of a feminist wrect compilation.

769
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,639
Speaker 4: Sounds like a great sci fi novel in the making.

770
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: Actually yeah, well we shoot novel who are living in it.

771
00:49:21,559 --> 00:49:23,159
But one of the wider points that I wanted to

772
00:49:23,159 --> 00:49:26,119
speak about on this story, as as Pete mentioned, this

773
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,039
is a more or less this is a seventeen year

774
00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:33,480
old story. I mean, this has been known and thought

775
00:49:33,519 --> 00:49:38,639
about since. Really snowed in is what broke this, you know,

776
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:44,519
so just about every American understands that like almost a

777
00:49:44,559 --> 00:49:48,280
complete picture of their life, their online activity, like all

778
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,960
of us here with our little Anon profile pictures. That's

779
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:56,599
there to stop immediate recognition. If the government or some

780
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,800
other dedicated group of people wants to find out who

781
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,840
you are are, there's so much information out there and

782
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,000
there are so many means of parsing it that there's

783
00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:08,679
really nothing you could do about it. So I guess,

784
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,760
I guess what the the actual question is is not

785
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:15,239
necessarily this story about Palenteer and how you know Trump

786
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:20,639
is revealing this? But why is it being signal boosted? Now?

787
00:50:21,559 --> 00:50:23,519
Why is it? It was signal boosted earlier this week?

788
00:50:23,519 --> 00:50:26,440
But why is it being being seeded into the quote

789
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,960
unquote discourse and signal boosted as as you know, Oh,

790
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:33,400
it is a big story, you know this is This

791
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:34,920
is one of the questions that you need to ask,

792
00:50:35,039 --> 00:50:39,000
is is whenever, you know, whenever a story comes into

793
00:50:39,039 --> 00:50:42,000
the scene, whether it's true or not, the question is

794
00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:45,760
why is it being signal boost Because there are a

795
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,719
million things that happen any given day, and any number

796
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,960
of them are newsworthy and can be reported on. And

797
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,119
you know, you only have such a limit your timeline,

798
00:50:56,119 --> 00:50:58,119
your phone has only such a limited capacity of what

799
00:50:58,119 --> 00:51:00,440
it can put in front of you. So why was

800
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,519
this particular story signal boosted? Why was it brought in

801
00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:06,480
front of all of us? Was there possibly some ulterior

802
00:51:06,519 --> 00:51:07,480
motive with it?

803
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:14,039
Speaker 3: I mean, the Senec can say it just takes takes

804
00:51:14,079 --> 00:51:17,440
attention away from the fact that you know, we're not

805
00:51:17,519 --> 00:51:23,159
getting you know, twenty thousand deportations a day, and you know,

806
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,800
the USA I D is still running in some sort

807
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,280
of way, and there were thirty six protests in the

808
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:35,880
streets today, and you know, to distract you from that.

809
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,119
I mean, shoot, there was a bunch of as far

810
00:51:39,159 --> 00:51:42,519
as I'm concerned, there was a bunch of distractions happening

811
00:51:42,679 --> 00:51:46,480
happening today that took away from a really you know,

812
00:51:46,599 --> 00:51:49,599
big story that was on Twitter that was blown up

813
00:51:49,599 --> 00:51:50,880
Twitter pretty good yesterday.

814
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,119
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and I actually think that's a that's a that's

815
00:51:54,119 --> 00:51:56,440
a perfect segue into our final topic of the evening.

816
00:51:56,639 --> 00:51:59,039
Any of you, gentlemen, of any further any final comments

817
00:51:59,079 --> 00:52:01,760
on this whole palante here thing before we go to

818
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,239
our final topic of the evening.

819
00:52:05,199 --> 00:52:07,119
Speaker 2: No, only to say that it's going to come back,

820
00:52:08,199 --> 00:52:13,840
because it's there's there's some kind of internal factional struggle

821
00:52:14,039 --> 00:52:17,000
going on. I mean, there always is, but in this case,

822
00:52:17,079 --> 00:52:18,639
I think it has to do with the tech bros

823
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,000
and the intelligence communities. I've long said that you know,

824
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,440
people like Bezos and Musk and feel they don't get

825
00:52:25,639 --> 00:52:29,440
you know, massive government contracts having to do with data

826
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,679
aggregation and cloud services as they're called and all the rest,

827
00:52:34,159 --> 00:52:37,960
without being very much a part of the military industrial complex,

828
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,360
which is of course going to be joined at the

829
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:43,639
hip with intelligence services. So you know, there's some sort

830
00:52:43,639 --> 00:52:49,480
of factional thing going on, and you know it's Bezos

831
00:52:49,519 --> 00:52:52,039
has been very quiet for quite some time. You know,

832
00:52:52,519 --> 00:52:54,960
what's his name, Zuckerberg. You know, seemed like he came

833
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,719
online with a different course of action. You know, his

834
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,920
PR people had him in pretending an interest in, you know,

835
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,840
forging Japanese swords, and he's doing curls and showing up

836
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:09,519
at MMA fights. There's something going on, and I think

837
00:53:09,559 --> 00:53:12,159
there's there's a question now about which side of the

838
00:53:12,159 --> 00:53:14,880
toast has the butter on it for these people. So

839
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,280
I think we're going to be seeing more of this,

840
00:53:17,159 --> 00:53:20,000
absolutely absolutely well.

841
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 1: That actually, Pete, you were mentioning a story that broke

842
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:26,400
yesterday that was actually kind of kind of buried today

843
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,000
by the very slow news day that we had. People

844
00:53:29,079 --> 00:53:31,840
all seem to forget about it. But our good friend,

845
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,119
friend of the club, friend of the show, Oran McIntyre,

846
00:53:37,519 --> 00:53:41,519
after watching an academic agent post a brilliant video that

847
00:53:41,599 --> 00:53:46,119
I listened to was about thirty minutes long about a secretive,

848
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:51,360
very not very well known government agency called the Community

849
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,719
Relations Service, Right, And in both the video and in

850
00:53:55,159 --> 00:53:58,199
Orang's thread, they go into the details of what this

851
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:02,000
service was, how it was that up under Title ten

852
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,880
of the Civil Rights Act, and how it has a

853
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,760
confidentiality that is matched only by something like the FBI.

854
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:15,119
So all notes that agents of this agency take is

855
00:54:15,159 --> 00:54:17,559
destroyed or kept under lock and key in a physical

856
00:54:18,639 --> 00:54:21,599
filing cabinet somewhere in the Department of Justice that you know,

857
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:26,679
cannot be accessed unless I don't know, does it take

858
00:54:26,679 --> 00:54:29,559
a presidential Does it take a presidential inquiry to do it? It can't.

859
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,880
They don't have to. They don't have to testify before Congress.

860
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:37,039
They can invoke this privilege. So there's very little oversight

861
00:54:37,079 --> 00:54:41,960
on this agency. So this agency has functionally been stage

862
00:54:42,039 --> 00:54:46,199
managing most of the latter half of the twentieth century. Yeah,

863
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,800
right here, the Community Relations Service. It's a it's a

864
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,639
very very very small, very lesser known agency that operates

865
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:56,400
under the Department of the Justice. And what they functionally

866
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,039
do is what they you know, according to the according

867
00:54:59,079 --> 00:55:04,239
to AA, is they go to these protests that or

868
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:08,639
they went to these protests historically to prevent them from

869
00:55:08,679 --> 00:55:11,960
turning into into race riots, but very specifically they were

870
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:17,320
there to prevent white backlash against racial lash outs, which

871
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,039
you know, if you want to learn more and go

872
00:55:20,079 --> 00:55:22,480
look at the thread and go watch AA's video, you know,

873
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,480
and go even read the book that AA pulled all

874
00:55:24,519 --> 00:55:26,639
this out of it. It really, this is the closest

875
00:55:26,639 --> 00:55:28,639
thing I think we're going to get to. We've you know,

876
00:55:28,679 --> 00:55:30,679
A was talking about this. We all kind of come

877
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,199
from his orbit, or at least are familiar with him,

878
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,880
and you know, brought up on elite theory and media

879
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:40,119
manipulation and things like that, and this agency is the

880
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,480
closest thing I think we're going to get to a

881
00:55:42,599 --> 00:55:49,920
smoking gun of the federal government basically manufacturing and signal boosting,

882
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,199
or at least in aspect, factions within the federal government

883
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:57,000
manufacturing and signal boosting the culture of the latter half

884
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,840
of the twentieth century to very consciously create the world

885
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:05,440
that we live in today. So right, take it away, gentlemen.

886
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 4: I think one of the more interesting things that I

887
00:56:12,119 --> 00:56:16,679
found about this whole discussion that A brought up to

888
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:22,679
everybody is how much it reminds me of things that

889
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,760
more goth and other British friends were saying about the

890
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,079
British Intelligence Services nudge unit that they were using in

891
00:56:30,119 --> 00:56:35,400
the aftermath of some of these other racially motivated or

892
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:42,679
racially linked crimes, especially you know, certain concert bombings and

893
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,719
that sort of thing where you have don't look back

894
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,599
in anger, and it just it reminds me of that. Basically,

895
00:56:48,639 --> 00:56:50,159
this seems to be a nudge unit.

896
00:56:54,039 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 3: It's a you know, and it's part of the Civil

897
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:04,360
Rights Act, so apparently if you look at it, it's

898
00:57:05,079 --> 00:57:12,800
it It is so important to the purpose of the

899
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:17,199
Civil Rights Act that this agency, this secretive agency, was

900
00:57:17,239 --> 00:57:22,440
written into the Civil Rights Act, and that just really

901
00:57:22,519 --> 00:57:24,159
lets you know when you look at some of the

902
00:57:24,159 --> 00:57:26,920
stuff they do, some of the things that AA talked

903
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,199
about in that video, I mean from you know, everything

904
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,480
from it seems like, you know, how net Yahu when

905
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,159
he when he referred to Hamasi said I can control

906
00:57:36,199 --> 00:57:39,159
the height of the flame. It seems like they control

907
00:57:39,199 --> 00:57:41,719
the height of the flame on both sides. Whether it's

908
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,840
a chimp out, they can they can raise the flame

909
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,599
higher if it's you know, a white person, really upset

910
00:57:48,639 --> 00:57:51,719
because their son just got murdered, you know, by some

911
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:56,519
you know, freaking pavement ape. They look they can lower

912
00:57:56,559 --> 00:58:00,400
the flame. They go in there and I assume, you know,

913
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,559
we need Basically what needs to happen is some of

914
00:58:03,599 --> 00:58:06,719
these parents who were guided by them need to talk,

915
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,639
need to speak out and say exactly what was done

916
00:58:09,679 --> 00:58:14,039
to you? Were you threatened. It looks like Austin Metcalf's father,

917
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,400
even though he was pretty shit libby before this happened.

918
00:58:19,039 --> 00:58:21,679
It looks like he had a handler, this big black

919
00:58:21,679 --> 00:58:23,760
guy who was walking around with him whenever he was

920
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:30,159
in public after this happened. I mean, this is the

921
00:58:30,199 --> 00:58:34,320
whole purpose of this. It It really reminds me this

922
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:39,159
agency off you if you really do like a big

923
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:44,079
breakdown of it's a social engineering agency. It's you know,

924
00:58:44,519 --> 00:58:49,800
a control the culture agency. If you go into like

925
00:58:50,079 --> 00:58:53,840
look at Chop Protective Services CPS. I've never I haven't

926
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:55,519
done it in every state, but I did a deep

927
00:58:55,559 --> 00:58:59,280
dive into them in Texas. There they answered to no one,

928
00:59:00,199 --> 00:59:03,719
they can do whatever they want. All of the you know,

929
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:07,559
the person who's the woman who's deciding whether your child

930
00:59:07,639 --> 00:59:10,440
is being taken away or whether you can adopt somebody

931
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:15,039
is a twenty eight year old shit lib progressive single

932
00:59:15,119 --> 00:59:18,559
woman with no kids, you know, with a college degree.

933
00:59:19,079 --> 00:59:23,119
I mean, this is this goes so far across everything

934
00:59:23,559 --> 00:59:28,239
of the social engineering regime that came out of books

935
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:32,119
like the authoritarian personality, you know, out of World War Two.

936
00:59:33,079 --> 00:59:35,920
I mean, that's what this is that. I mean, it's

937
00:59:36,239 --> 00:59:39,920
it's it's a part of this huge thing, but it's

938
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:48,280
so huge, and it's so it's what allows thirteen to

939
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:52,480
keep doing sixty.

940
00:59:53,639 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 1: Sorry, do you have a Kudi graph?

941
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:56,079
Speaker 2: No?

942
00:59:56,199 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: I'm good, Okay, Well, I mean and this is this

943
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,840
is I think, how what is it we talk about

944
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:06,360
earlier on the stream semiagogue, you've talked about how a

945
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,119
lot of this is inherited from the British and the

946
01:00:08,119 --> 01:00:11,480
British way of doing things of Functionally, the British don't

947
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:15,320
have any domestic commodities. They don't have or well maybe

948
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,559
they had a little bit, but nothing compared to other

949
01:00:18,679 --> 01:00:21,639
much more commodity rich powers, or at least industrial based

950
01:00:21,679 --> 01:00:26,159
rich powers, and the British functionally, the way that they

951
01:00:26,159 --> 01:00:32,119
were able to maintain power is by rules manipulation, media manipulation,

952
01:00:32,599 --> 01:00:37,880
A very gorilla like means of altering the world's social order.

953
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,239
And it's actually a very good demonstration of elite theory.

954
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,840
Is the stranglehold that the British elite have had over

955
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,079
the world for such a very long time, even even

956
01:00:46,199 --> 01:00:49,280
continuing up to this day. But these sorts of tactics

957
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,519
are utilized by them, have been utilized by them. I mean,

958
01:00:52,559 --> 01:00:55,760
I can even think back to the Civil War Thomas

959
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,639
Carlyle or the pre Civil War the Anteveelopmyers. Thomas Carlyle

960
01:00:58,719 --> 01:01:01,760
was the most popular English line whige intellectual on both

961
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,000
sides of the Mason Dixon line, and Thomas Carlile would

962
01:01:05,039 --> 01:01:07,559
publish one pamphlet where he would defend slavery, and then

963
01:01:07,559 --> 01:01:10,199
he would publish another pamphlet that would castigate the South,

964
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:14,599
you know, and they were both signal boosted, both very

965
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,119
I'm not saying Carlile was a party to British intelligence

966
01:01:17,159 --> 01:01:21,400
wouldn't surprise me. But these pamphlets were very, you know,

967
01:01:21,679 --> 01:01:26,400
cynically spread. In addition, what is it another thing that

968
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,119
they do is they hollow out the center. Right, There's

969
01:01:29,119 --> 01:01:31,320
so many ways that you can manipulate media, but when

970
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,559
you want to functionally inflame a conflict to such a

971
01:01:34,599 --> 01:01:37,280
point that it's created. What you do is you hollow

972
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,000
out the moderate voices, you signal d boost, You find

973
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,760
ways of making sure that their message gets strangled, and

974
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,440
then you signal boost to idiots, the radicals. You know,

975
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,840
a really good example of William Lloyd Garrison and the

976
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:52,280
Liberator and the radical abolitionists in the North who are

977
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:56,920
calling for things like you know, you know, the slave Revolution.

978
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,840
All white Southerners need to be killed by the like

979
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:03,679
like like very lurid, but very you know, unironic, like

980
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:07,840
all white Southerners are damned. And then on the other

981
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:09,480
side of the coin in the South you have the

982
01:02:09,519 --> 01:02:13,639
fire eaters who are like, you know, slavery is morally

983
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:18,079
obligated by God and it absolutely needs to occur. And

984
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,760
that was signal boosted. And both of those were signal

985
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,239
boosted at the expense of the moderates, who are much

986
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:26,920
more numerous in number, in order to create functionally a

987
01:02:27,519 --> 01:02:31,320
armed conflict, or at least to predispose an armed conflict

988
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,079
on the North American continents. So this has been going

989
01:02:33,119 --> 01:02:36,280
on for a very long time, and this agency exists

990
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,239
actually more or less to do the opposite to.

991
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:42,679
Speaker 2: Or rather.

992
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: Not necessarily to prevent a conflict, as it were, but

993
01:02:47,119 --> 01:02:50,960
basically to shut down the other side, to allow one

994
01:02:51,079 --> 01:02:58,400
side of these particular issues to you know, be completely unmolested,

995
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,840
act with a punity, and then the other side, whenever

996
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:05,480
there's a reaction, an equal and opposite reaction, justified or not,

997
01:03:06,719 --> 01:03:11,320
they are controlled, you know, calmed down, cajoled, threatened, whatever,

998
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:17,400
in order to ensure a very deliberate outcome is affected.

999
01:03:18,199 --> 01:03:22,199
So I don't know, these are this is this is

1000
01:03:22,239 --> 01:03:25,280
this is a very I mean, we've only scratched the surface,

1001
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:28,519
I can assume. And as A said, they got arrogant.

1002
01:03:28,719 --> 01:03:31,280
They put all this in a friggin book. You can

1003
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,360
read about all of it. It's framed as a positive.

1004
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:38,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a there's a that's one of the points

1005
01:03:38,039 --> 01:03:39,440
that I wanted to bring up. So I'm glad you

1006
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:41,440
mentioned it. You know, it underscores the importance of what

1007
01:03:41,559 --> 01:03:46,000
gets called open source intelligence rather grandly. But the basic

1008
01:03:46,039 --> 01:03:50,119
idea is to just trawl through the material that's out

1009
01:03:50,119 --> 01:03:53,559
there that has been made public, and if one does

1010
01:03:53,599 --> 01:03:56,920
that purposefully, there's a great deal that can be revealed

1011
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,519
about what's going on. And in this case, yeah, I

1012
01:04:00,559 --> 01:04:03,000
agree with you. This is as close to a smoking

1013
01:04:03,039 --> 01:04:05,400
gun as we're going to get. But of course that

1014
01:04:05,519 --> 01:04:09,519
is to say it's little more than a confirmation, and

1015
01:04:09,559 --> 01:04:12,800
of course confirmation is not nothing far from it. But

1016
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:14,760
you know, let's not pretend we didn't all know this

1017
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:15,440
was going on.

1018
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:16,519
Speaker 3: We knew it.

1019
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 2: But yeah, now there's a there's a smoking gun, and

1020
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,400
we have some sense of when this aspect of the

1021
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:25,599
civil rights stuff started in the United States, you know,

1022
01:04:25,639 --> 01:04:28,559
and we had an entire government office or bureau or

1023
01:04:28,599 --> 01:04:32,920
whatever devoted to it, working in more or less in

1024
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,719
the in the shadows. But yeah, I agree with you

1025
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:40,119
that a lot of this goes back to a lot

1026
01:04:40,119 --> 01:04:42,280
of these techniques go back to Britain. Of course, they

1027
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:47,599
had a very very effective spy service, spy network, you know,

1028
01:04:47,639 --> 01:04:50,039
starting at least as far back as people like Francis

1029
01:04:50,079 --> 01:04:53,960
Walsingham with his own sort of informal intelligence service for

1030
01:04:54,039 --> 01:04:57,360
the Crown and the Star Chamber where decisions were made.

1031
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,360
And I don't to say here that this is all

1032
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,639
about Britain. You know, the United States and the US

1033
01:05:03,679 --> 01:05:08,960
elites are currently well, let's say that the North Atlantic

1034
01:05:09,079 --> 01:05:12,239
elites in my view anyway, that once exploited the British

1035
01:05:12,239 --> 01:05:15,639
Empire for their ends, have sort of pulled up stakes

1036
01:05:15,639 --> 01:05:19,320
and moved to the United States after having gutted Britain,

1037
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,599
and they operate from here with the US Navy as

1038
01:05:22,639 --> 01:05:25,320
a world's policeman rather than you know, formerly the British

1039
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:29,079
Navy being it. But yeah, and I also agree with

1040
01:05:29,119 --> 01:05:31,320
the point about how far back it goes. I have

1041
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:36,840
not yet looked into aspects, particularly with the Civil War,

1042
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:41,119
war of Northern Aggression, war between the States, if you prefer,

1043
01:05:41,519 --> 01:05:43,840
I have not looked into those aspects closely yet, but

1044
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,639
I hope to in an upcoming stream with sand Batch.

1045
01:05:46,679 --> 01:05:51,760
But I can say that's.

1046
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:53,079
Speaker 1: His real quick, that's his undergraduate or his graduate thesis

1047
01:05:53,079 --> 01:05:56,480
that I basically cited verbatim when talking about Carlisle continue.

1048
01:05:57,079 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Well, I'm looking forward to talking about it

1049
01:05:59,039 --> 01:06:01,559
because he's the first one I come across who shares

1050
01:06:01,639 --> 01:06:04,440
my skepticism about a number of things that went on

1051
01:06:05,239 --> 01:06:10,400
with that war. And certainly I see a fine English

1052
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:14,000
hand there somewhere in the background. But it certainly goes

1053
01:06:14,039 --> 01:06:16,760
back to World War One. When you look into people

1054
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:20,159
like Brenez, you know, most people don't get much past Burnez.

1055
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:23,440
Brenees is of course great and he's important, but there's

1056
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:29,400
also Walter Littman, and Litman and Brenees both cut their

1057
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:33,440
teeth in World War One, basically being involved in what

1058
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:38,400
were early versions of Bureaus of Propaganda. And World War

1059
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,760
One is of course the point at which the United

1060
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:44,719
States got dragged back in completely into the British orbit

1061
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:46,920
as sort of a you know, break glass in case

1062
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:49,119
of fire, Lackey to show up to bail them out.

1063
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,280
So and again, as I say all this, I'm not

1064
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:56,000
trying to claim that it's all Britain today. I think

1065
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,119
it is bankers, and I think they're based in New

1066
01:06:58,199 --> 01:07:01,360
York and London, you know, who are at the top

1067
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:04,480
of the food chain, manipulating things. But I'm not claiming

1068
01:07:04,519 --> 01:07:06,800
it's Britain, and I'm not claiming that the United States

1069
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:10,039
doesn't bear very grave responsibility for what's being done in

1070
01:07:10,079 --> 01:07:13,639
its name. But this goes back to World War One,

1071
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,039
at least in its modern form, with people like Lipman

1072
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,800
and Berne's. There were other people in that period very

1073
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:23,760
famous for what was what came to be called public relations,

1074
01:07:24,639 --> 01:07:29,119
like Ivy Lee. But Ivy Lee was a Southerner and

1075
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:33,599
Ivy Lee also went over in the nineteen thirties and

1076
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:38,119
helped with his early knowledge of public relations a certain

1077
01:07:38,199 --> 01:07:42,000
mid century German government. And as a consequence, everyone talks

1078
01:07:42,039 --> 01:07:48,239
about how Walter Lippman and Edward Burney's co ethnics were

1079
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:52,480
really the great shining lights of developing public relations, whereas

1080
01:07:53,199 --> 01:07:56,480
ivy Lee has almost completely been forgotten. I hope to

1081
01:07:56,559 --> 01:08:00,559
change that with some streams in the future. Yeah, it's

1082
01:08:00,599 --> 01:08:03,039
been going on for quite some time, and these sorts

1083
01:08:03,079 --> 01:08:07,719
of manipulations with propaganda and the rest were originally developed

1084
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:12,480
in war fighting environments, as you know, as a crisis contingency.

1085
01:08:13,039 --> 01:08:17,159
And this just underscores my argument that all is war

1086
01:08:17,359 --> 01:08:21,199
at all times and all places today because these sorts

1087
01:08:21,199 --> 01:08:26,079
of organizations foment war, raising up first one side of

1088
01:08:26,079 --> 01:08:28,920
a conflict and then the other in order to ensure

1089
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:32,479
it continues to simmer, to deliver the maximum possible advantage

1090
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:34,479
to our masters.

1091
01:08:37,079 --> 01:08:39,600
Speaker 1: If you want to figure out how this sort of

1092
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:44,159
very deeply ingrained spy and intelligence system is defeated, I

1093
01:08:44,159 --> 01:08:47,920
would highly recommend you all study Michael Collins in the

1094
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:51,840
early IRA that's a very good counter strategy against it,

1095
01:08:53,239 --> 01:08:56,319
that that actually kind of wrote the book on how

1096
01:08:56,319 --> 01:08:58,600
to defeat systems like that as reverse engineered by lots

1097
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:01,159
of people in the later twentieth century.

1098
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,199
Speaker 3: All Right, I.

1099
01:09:06,199 --> 01:09:10,279
Speaker 1: Certainly hope that the CRS gets a lot more media attention.

1100
01:09:10,319 --> 01:09:12,520
I would like to see everyone know about the CRS

1101
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,920
if possible. This is this is really it is. It

1102
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:21,680
is amazing the brazenness that a lot of these agencies

1103
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:26,079
conduct themselves with any any final thoughts on this or

1104
01:09:26,079 --> 01:09:28,039
really any of the stories that we went over before

1105
01:09:28,079 --> 01:09:29,439
we head on into super chats.

1106
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:36,640
Speaker 3: Only that not only this agency, but the whole CRA

1107
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:41,079
needs to be destroyed and we're not a serious country.

1108
01:09:41,119 --> 01:09:45,199
If we still have that, We're not going to there's

1109
01:09:45,319 --> 01:09:49,119
no hope. I mean I already there's questions of whether

1110
01:09:49,279 --> 01:09:51,840
what can be saved or what can't, but a tendency

1111
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:55,000
to believe there's not there's nothing in DC they can

1112
01:09:55,039 --> 01:10:01,239
be saved. It is worth preserving. But yeah, this, if anything,

1113
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:05,920
people need to be people need to be re engineered

1114
01:10:06,039 --> 01:10:12,680
to understand that freedom of association is Europe is a

1115
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:20,359
white European Yeah good, yeah, a white European. You know,

1116
01:10:22,279 --> 01:10:25,600
it's what we are without it or nothing.

1117
01:10:27,399 --> 01:10:32,199
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'd only add that, Uh, yeah, you guys are

1118
01:10:32,199 --> 01:10:34,279
probably familiar with it, and it's you know, it's something

1119
01:10:34,279 --> 01:10:36,479
of a normy take, but it's not useless. You know,

1120
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:42,039
Christopher Caldwell's book basically asserting that I can't remember the

1121
01:10:42,119 --> 01:10:44,199
name of it right now, perhaps one of you can,

1122
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:49,319
but Asi of Entitlement, yes, yes, you know, arguing that

1123
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:54,840
the civil rights regime that was imposed top down during

1124
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:58,680
that period, you know, the mid sixties, amounts to a

1125
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,760
new social covenant for the country and it has superseded

1126
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:05,800
the Constitution. And you know, thinking about the CRS stuff

1127
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,920
from that perspective sort of undersquirts the fact that what

1128
01:11:09,039 --> 01:11:14,840
this CRS office is, it's basically like the Iranian Republican Guard,

1129
01:11:15,359 --> 01:11:19,279
you know, being the elite forces tasked with protecting the

1130
01:11:19,319 --> 01:11:22,439
revolution against counter revolutionaries. I mean, that's just what it is.

1131
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:25,439
I mean, if we just well, if you'll forgive the expression,

1132
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:29,720
call a spade a spade, that's what we're that's what

1133
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,279
we're dealing with here. And it's a very very ugly thing.

1134
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:39,199
Change that battery, buddy. Yeah, So it's a it's a mess,

1135
01:11:39,239 --> 01:11:42,920
it's very ugly. It's a very dark thing to consider.

1136
01:11:43,119 --> 01:11:44,840
But you know, it's going to get worse before it

1137
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:48,840
gets better, and we just have to remain resolute in

1138
01:11:49,239 --> 01:11:52,560
pointing our fingers at it so that it cannot slither

1139
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:55,439
off again into the darkness.

1140
01:11:57,279 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: Absolutely, the twenty twenty it really was a matter of fact,

1141
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:05,159
twenty twenty was a blessing because it was the same

1142
01:12:05,239 --> 01:12:07,720
It was the same playbook. It's just the playbook has

1143
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,279
reached its diminishing rates of return and more or less

1144
01:12:10,279 --> 01:12:12,199
everyone can kind of see it for what it is now.

1145
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,279
But yeah, exactly, it was. Yeah, there you go. You know,

1146
01:12:23,039 --> 01:12:25,680
who thought this was a good idea? Like this just

1147
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:27,279
shows how sloppy they've gotten.

1148
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:32,399
Speaker 3: Look at what's around his neck? I mean, yeah, it's

1149
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:36,239
it's peaceful. I'm sorry, what's that? What's that? Uh? Pp

1150
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:39,920
a right, unbelievable, unbelievable.

1151
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 1: Fiery, but mostly peaceful.

1152
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:51,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of the thinks. Yeah, and it just

1153
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:53,239
it has to be a joke, it has to be

1154
01:12:53,239 --> 01:12:55,760
a meme. And you're like, no, they really did that.

1155
01:12:56,039 --> 01:12:58,760
They really did that, and they really do that ship

1156
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:02,239
every single day. It was only when I started to dig,

1157
01:13:02,319 --> 01:13:05,560
you know, with the internet available as a resource, you know,

1158
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:10,279
because I grew up with the generation before me, more

1159
01:13:10,319 --> 01:13:13,920
so even than you guys except for a Pete probably.

1160
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,800
You know, it was the sixties, the sixties, the sixties,

1161
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:19,359
you know, Jimi Hendrix, let's go listen to some led Zeppelin.

1162
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,359
Wasn't it cool back then? You know, it was a

1163
01:13:22,039 --> 01:13:24,720
great sort of cultural revolution. And so I grew up

1164
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:28,279
with these understandings of you know, the protests that happened

1165
01:13:28,359 --> 01:13:30,399
and all the rest, and so I did some looking.

1166
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:32,399
I'm like, oh, okay, let's go look at the broad

1167
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:35,600
burning stuff. Because you heard about bra burning in the sixties, right,

1168
01:13:36,039 --> 01:13:38,720
Anybody who's listening can go online and like look for

1169
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:40,960
you know, bra burning protests, and you know what's going

1170
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:44,319
to come up. A group basically one group of black

1171
01:13:44,359 --> 01:13:47,199
and white photographs. And when you can see all of

1172
01:13:47,239 --> 01:13:49,840
the ones that are available from the different sides aggregated,

1173
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:52,840
you know, with a Google image search or whatever, you

1174
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:56,199
could see that it's like four or five women with

1175
01:13:56,279 --> 01:13:58,920
one trash can that they're burning bras in and like,

1176
01:13:59,119 --> 01:14:01,920
I don't know, five or six people standing around. You

1177
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:06,920
can only piece it together post facto, you know, given

1178
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:11,319
this distance in time, when you get access to, you know,

1179
01:14:11,359 --> 01:14:13,880
all the photographs that were taken and that you realize, Wow,

1180
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,760
these events happened maybe once or twice, and one or

1181
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:18,720
two photos were shown and it was supposed to be,

1182
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:22,640
you know, this massive upsurge in feminist consciousness, and you're like, no,

1183
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:25,520
it was just some photographer with four women he hired

1184
01:14:26,399 --> 01:14:28,960
and they burned these bras and there's like one or

1185
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:31,800
two photo shoots, and you know, they were just repeated

1186
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:35,920
endlessly as this major thing, and you could see it

1187
01:14:36,399 --> 01:14:41,680
in retrospect for what it was even then, when you

1188
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,119
look at all the stuff that happened from you know,

1189
01:14:44,199 --> 01:14:46,880
late twenty fifteen all the way through to today where

1190
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:49,279
you see you know, some guy getting beaten up and

1191
01:14:49,319 --> 01:14:52,720
they're literally like twenty or thirty photographers with their little

1192
01:14:53,039 --> 01:14:56,359
you know, selfie sticks and you know, steady cam units

1193
01:14:56,359 --> 01:15:00,840
for their phones and their little bicycle helmets on standing around,

1194
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:06,680
you know, pointed at this spectacle and you have to

1195
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:10,800
wonder how much of that kind of thing is uh, yeah,

1196
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:13,880
you'll you'll you'll find there's basically two of those and

1197
01:15:14,239 --> 01:15:18,439
that's it. That's the bra burning. But yeah, you have

1198
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:21,960
to wonder how much of that was actually done by

1199
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:25,279
the CRS. I mean, how much of this was done

1200
01:15:25,319 --> 01:15:29,560
by this this agency or whatever the hell it is. Uh,

1201
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,279
and and what are the overlaps between it and other

1202
01:15:32,319 --> 01:15:35,159
aspects of the government. They get up to shady shit.

1203
01:15:35,359 --> 01:15:38,039
You know, does it really exist in a vacuum or

1204
01:15:38,279 --> 01:15:41,479
you know, is there a is there a special button

1205
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:44,239
they can press on the intercom and talk to someone

1206
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:47,039
over it one of the other you know, three letter agencies.

1207
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:51,520
So yeah, same ship, different day.

1208
01:15:54,319 --> 01:15:57,079
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just again. I can't help but just

1209
01:15:57,159 --> 01:15:59,840
keep emphasizing this. They put this all in a book

1210
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:04,439
to be read. They boasted about this. You know, they

1211
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:05,800
couldn't help themselves.

1212
01:16:06,159 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 3: They can't help it. They do this all the time.

1213
01:16:09,119 --> 01:16:11,439
I mean, you read their history and we know who

1214
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:15,479
I'm talking about. They they do it. They they're like,

1215
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:18,800
look look at look at what we did. And the

1216
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:23,279
ultimate sin is to go, yeah, but that didn't work out. Well,

1217
01:16:24,239 --> 01:16:27,039
oh now it's a program. Now you want now you

1218
01:16:27,119 --> 01:16:30,000
now you want a program to happen. I'm done with it.

1219
01:16:30,239 --> 01:16:35,359
Oh I'm over it. I'm over it. I contacted AA

1220
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:38,840
to say to congratulate him and thank him for, you know,

1221
01:16:39,239 --> 01:16:41,920
for revealing this. I mean, what great work he did.

1222
01:16:42,239 --> 01:16:45,199
And he said, yeah, my biggest problem was trying to

1223
01:16:45,319 --> 01:16:48,800
find names that didn't end in a certain thing, and

1224
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:50,920
the only ones I could find were Rosa Parks, Martin,

1225
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:51,960
Luther King, and LBJ.

1226
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1227
01:16:57,399 --> 01:17:03,359
Speaker 1: Oh well, I hope I hope this this. Uh, I

1228
01:17:03,399 --> 01:17:05,479
hope this. Like I said, I hope that this agency

1229
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,119
gets a great deal more media coverage, and I hope

1230
01:17:08,119 --> 01:17:10,039
more and more and more stuff comes out of it,

1231
01:17:10,079 --> 01:17:12,600
because as far as I'm aware, they're still operating, and

1232
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,079
they still exist, and they still have staff on payroll

1233
01:17:15,359 --> 01:17:17,680
right now at this very second. Yeah, that's the book

1234
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:22,800
right there, America's peacemakers. By let me, let me see

1235
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:30,000
if I've got this right, bertram Levine Andande and Grande Long.

1236
01:17:39,039 --> 01:17:45,640
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, Eastern Standard time, Eastern Standard time, that's right,

1237
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:48,279
all right.

1238
01:17:48,319 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 1: You want to bring you know, you all want to

1239
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:53,600
bring it into super chats. Yeah, let's do it, all right,

1240
01:17:57,279 --> 01:18:01,680
So starting off first and foremost, Steak nineteen sixty four

1241
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:05,119
for eleven dollars. Evening, gents, Hope you all are doing

1242
01:18:05,159 --> 01:18:07,800
well or are all doing well. The Home Range Society

1243
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:10,760
just grew by another member. We're all looking forward to

1244
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,479
meeting him soon. Might be cafe. But the Elon Trump

1245
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:17,000
spat is SUS. Salute to the OGC. Well, congratulations to

1246
01:18:17,039 --> 01:18:19,079
you on the Home Range Society holding it down there

1247
01:18:19,079 --> 01:18:21,520
in Kansas. You all are doing a great job, and

1248
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:23,239
a good job on your new member.

1249
01:18:24,119 --> 01:18:27,239
Speaker 4: Solid Snake with the first super chat again here we go.

1250
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's getting his place back. Good job, Memphissippi. For

1251
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:35,359
three dollars, he says. You can take the Spurg out

1252
01:18:35,359 --> 01:18:37,800
of Africa, but you can't take the Africa out of

1253
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:42,800
the Spurg. Thank you very much, Sir Zenrath. For fifteen

1254
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:46,159
US dollars, he says, the Bluestone Heritage League of Northern

1255
01:18:46,239 --> 01:18:49,000
Virginia welcomes all Heritage Americans who know what time it is,

1256
01:18:49,399 --> 01:18:52,840
unlike some South Africans who do not redeem the spaceship. Yeah,

1257
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:54,640
if any of you are in the Northern Virginia DC

1258
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:57,359
area southern Maryland and you're looking to get involved with

1259
01:18:57,399 --> 01:18:59,760
the Old Glory Club, we have a chapter out there

1260
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,800
loose Stone Heritage League, and mister zen Rafits president is

1261
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:05,079
one of one of one of our best, so I

1262
01:19:05,119 --> 01:19:07,399
highly recommend you all get involved if you're in that area.

1263
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:11,600
Thank you, sir. Next up for Scott McGrath for two dollars,

1264
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:16,720
he says, my PayPal mafia morogue elites, hail Donald J.

1265
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,399
Trump Wall, I completely.

1266
01:19:19,039 --> 01:19:21,359
Speaker 2: Agreecommend you stop being such a faggin.

1267
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Well, thank you, thank you sir. The

1268
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:34,119
Servile Age Podcast for fifty dollars. He says, I don't

1269
01:19:34,119 --> 01:19:36,399
really have anything to say. I just want to throw

1270
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:39,319
some money towards the OGC. Love the work, y'all do well.

1271
01:19:39,399 --> 01:19:40,880
Thank you, sir, Thank you very much.

1272
01:19:42,279 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 4: De shmell litt bit dexture.

1273
01:19:45,159 --> 01:19:46,319
Speaker 2: I love God.

1274
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 1: I've never listened to the servile Age podcast, but after

1275
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:55,039
your generous donation, I might have to to check it out,

1276
01:19:55,119 --> 01:19:56,319
So thank you all very much.

1277
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 3: Sounds sounds afflet.

1278
01:20:01,159 --> 01:20:06,680
Speaker 1: Indeed, Chancey of Northwest for fifteen US dollars he says,

1279
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:09,399
good eating gents. Cat's got a double dose of cancer.

1280
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:12,520
Girlfriend is unhappy. I'm very sorry to hear that girlfriend

1281
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:15,279
is unhappy, so I'll catch the stream later. Oddly enough,

1282
01:20:15,319 --> 01:20:18,000
the guy who discovered a potential treatment pathway got his

1283
01:20:18,039 --> 01:20:21,000
career derailed by harassment allegations and fled the country.

1284
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:22,039
Speaker 2: What fun.

1285
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:30,239
Speaker 1: I am sincerely sorry that woman occupied government has a

1286
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:35,520
woman occupied society has has kept your cat from getting

1287
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:40,239
a cancer treatment. It really it really does derail people's lives.

1288
01:20:40,399 --> 01:20:46,399
So my condolence is for you Filo's miscellany for five dollars,

1289
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:49,680
he says, better to have the inevitable Trump musk fallout

1290
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:53,720
now than before the midterm, Thank you very much, sir.

1291
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:57,520
City Breakdancer Man for five dollars sends a salute. Thank you, sir,

1292
01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:03,520
We salute you back. Rome for five dollars says, good evening, all.

1293
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:05,920
We are going to win. Yes, indeed, we are going

1294
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:08,600
to win. Thank you very much, sir. Next up is

1295
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:12,520
Hammer Rain for nine dollars and ninety nine cents. He says.

1296
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:16,079
There's a doom slash sludge band in Athens, Georgia named

1297
01:21:16,119 --> 01:21:20,279
Harvey Milk. I've informed them that they will be renamed

1298
01:21:20,279 --> 01:21:23,199
to the Steven Miller Band. Well, thank you for informing them.

1299
01:21:24,079 --> 01:21:27,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's going to be a shocked gasp echoing through

1300
01:21:27,199 --> 01:21:32,199
the forty watt Club if that place is still there Athens,

1301
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:34,960
all right now?

1302
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my goodness, you gentlemen who are familiar with

1303
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:44,479
North Georgia. What is the I looked, I looked at

1304
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:48,079
University at Georgia for a little bit. What's the reputation

1305
01:21:48,199 --> 01:21:49,680
of Athens?

1306
01:21:50,279 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 3: I mean it's yeah, yeah, I think that's all I need. Yeah.

1307
01:21:58,119 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 1: Next up, Count Arthur for five dollars says as long

1308
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:05,600
as we're naming ships after civilians, why not USS Gary Plausch.

1309
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:06,600
I don't know who that is.

1310
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 2: Oh, he's famous Olive Screen right now.

1311
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:15,039
Speaker 1: I do know who that is. Never mind, never mind,

1312
01:22:15,199 --> 01:22:16,399
that would certainly be fitting.

1313
01:22:17,159 --> 01:22:17,640
Speaker 3: Beg you, sir.

1314
01:22:18,239 --> 01:22:21,279
Speaker 4: Usually when the name ships after civilians is because they

1315
01:22:21,319 --> 01:22:26,319
have some unique contribution to the Navy, like a second

1316
01:22:26,319 --> 01:22:30,239
map or something like that. Yeah, like Forest dollars was

1317
01:22:30,239 --> 01:22:31,000
was famous for that.

1318
01:22:32,159 --> 01:22:41,199
Speaker 1: Indeed, Uh Clemens X ninety for five dollars, says us

1319
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:45,560
NS Harvey Wallbanger. I completely support this, Harvey, that.

1320
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:50,399
Speaker 4: The president of it just has a ring to it.

1321
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:52,640
I mean, come on, it does it?

1322
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 1: Does you know? The president of the of the of

1323
01:22:55,000 --> 01:23:00,079
the Vetas Dominium Chapter, the first officially incorporated chapter of

1324
01:23:00,079 --> 01:23:04,399
the Old Glory Club, because Virginia is always first. We're

1325
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:08,199
not we're not necessarily the best, but we are always first.

1326
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:12,399
I think he certainly does deserve a Navy ship named

1327
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:15,560
after him. If y'all are in the tidewater area of Virginia, Virginia,

1328
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,920
Beachampton Roads, get involved with the with the VDC, the

1329
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:23,239
Vetas Dominium chapter. It's it's it's there are our oldest

1330
01:23:23,239 --> 01:23:25,479
club in one of our our oldest chapter rather than

1331
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:28,279
one of our best friends. So if you're in that area,

1332
01:23:28,319 --> 01:23:32,399
i'd highly recommend next up Balaro three nine three for

1333
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:36,880
five dollars, he says. The Typical New Society, which is

1334
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:39,880
our chapter in Indiana, hosted a chat with George Bagby

1335
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:42,520
on the American struggle for the Old Northwest and the

1336
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:45,960
significance of the Battle of Typica New Well, thanks for

1337
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:47,960
sharing that with us. We'd be happy to link and

1338
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:51,800
promote that on on the Old Glory Club, Twitter, accountant

1339
01:23:52,239 --> 01:23:54,640
or or and elsewhere. And if any of you all

1340
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:57,760
are in mister George Bagby is a great thinker, by

1341
01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:00,560
the way, he deserves all of a great deal of

1342
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:04,680
your time and attention, particularly on local American history. And

1343
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:06,920
if you are in the Indiana era, it's good. This

1344
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,279
is just going to turn into me shilling our various chapters.

1345
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:10,359
Speaker 3: It is just how it is.

1346
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 1: You're in the Indiana area, you want to get involved.

1347
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:15,319
The Typical New Society is the chapter in Indiana. So

1348
01:24:16,079 --> 01:24:17,840
thank you, Jennen, thank you very much. Bullaro three nine

1349
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:21,039
to three A Rome again for twenty dollars, says the

1350
01:24:21,039 --> 01:24:22,680
state of the navy is a bell weather for the

1351
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:24,520
state of the country. You can only go so far

1352
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:26,960
off the momentum of what was built by your betters.

1353
01:24:27,399 --> 01:24:30,359
We need to start learning to build again. I completely agree,

1354
01:24:31,319 --> 01:24:34,399
But learning to build takes a great deal more time

1355
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:38,119
than learning to destroy or just simply letting things rot.

1356
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 4: As everybody knows. It's also how much of your shipbuilding

1357
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:48,680
capacity do you actually have? How many dockyards, how many

1358
01:24:49,239 --> 01:24:51,439
how much steel, how much coal can you produce? All

1359
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:54,520
of these logistical things like if we don't have that

1360
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:56,439
kind of stuff anymore because we all allowed it to

1361
01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:58,439
be shipped overseas, So there you go.

1362
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:02,520
Speaker 1: Indeed, yeah, And I mean, you know, there's a lot

1363
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:05,079
of talk of bringing industry back to the United States,

1364
01:25:05,119 --> 01:25:07,640
but you know, just like you know, a great many

1365
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:12,079
things is one thing to talk about it, it's another

1366
01:25:12,079 --> 01:25:14,359
thing to do it. And even if you are doing it,

1367
01:25:14,199 --> 01:25:18,079
it's not it's not something you do overnight. So well

1368
01:25:18,079 --> 01:25:22,760
beg you, sir Paladin y y z for gold, just

1369
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:34,560
gold for one hundred and fifty dollars. I think I

1370
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:36,239
think that deserves some gold.

1371
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:39,520
Speaker 6: This is gold, mister Barton. All my life, I've been

1372
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:42,880
in love with its color. I welcome any enterprise that

1373
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:44,079
will increase my stock.

1374
01:25:45,399 --> 01:25:47,319
Speaker 1: I tried to do that dramatic thing or the gold

1375
01:25:47,359 --> 01:25:49,319
would play and then I would say the amount like that,

1376
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:53,680
like like GEO did. But alas and he said, I

1377
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:56,840
just I wanted to jump in on on shipbuilding just

1378
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:58,079
before we're too far past it.

1379
01:25:59,239 --> 01:26:02,640
Speaker 2: Bill, the big beautiful bill, which catches so much shit,

1380
01:26:03,159 --> 01:26:07,239
allocates thirty four billion to expand the US Naval three

1381
01:26:07,399 --> 01:26:12,880
fleet through increased shipbuilding efforts, and it has Department of

1382
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:18,000
Defense resources for shipbuilding, border security fleets, and port technology,

1383
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:22,840
and essentially supports the Executive Order on Maritime Dominance. So

1384
01:26:23,359 --> 01:26:25,439
to that point it should be mentioned.

1385
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:30,119
Speaker 1: Absolutely God willing, I hope that thirty four billion doesn't

1386
01:26:30,159 --> 01:26:36,399
get you know, just because I know the Northern Virginia

1387
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:38,680
and I know the economy that's going into I hope it.

1388
01:26:39,319 --> 01:26:41,479
I hope ninety percent of it doesn't just go into

1389
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:45,640
the acquisition's programs and no actual shipyards get built.

1390
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:51,680
Speaker 4: Now, the institutional pressure is definitely there for the Navy,

1391
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:55,279
so I mean, they know they've known for at least

1392
01:26:55,359 --> 01:26:57,800
you know the better part of ten years. Now that

1393
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:01,479
China's appeared a peer competitor, things need to get done,

1394
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:03,520
even if they don't want to.

1395
01:27:05,359 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 3: Uh.

1396
01:27:06,079 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 1: I think, I think, I think Paladin yy Z deserves

1397
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:10,960
some more gold. Before we read a super chat again,

1398
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:12,000
we kind of got interrupted.

1399
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:13,279
Speaker 6: I love gold.

1400
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:17,600
Speaker 4: Look smell a bit detexture.

1401
01:27:18,079 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 1: I love gold, Paladin. We we love you so much

1402
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:25,960
that we give you gold twice to give you your proper

1403
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:29,039
respect and your proper due. And he says, just thought

1404
01:27:29,039 --> 01:27:31,359
I would do my normal thing and demonstrate my total

1405
01:27:31,399 --> 01:27:36,479
and undying support for Israel. Absolutely, we all, we all

1406
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:39,720
completely and totally support our greatest Ally, I would die

1407
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:42,880
for Israel. I'm preparing to die for Israel on a

1408
01:27:43,199 --> 01:27:46,680
day to day basis. I completely support the country.

1409
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 2: From the river to the sea. Israel backstab me.

1410
01:27:51,279 --> 01:27:58,319
Speaker 1: So true, But yes, thank thank you, Paladin y y Z,

1411
01:28:00,119 --> 01:28:05,880
always one of our most generous patrons. Solid Snake nineteen

1412
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:08,239
sixty four again for two dollars, He says, Silver hit

1413
01:28:08,319 --> 01:28:12,199
thirty six dollars today, a twelve year high. Crazy market. Yeah,

1414
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:14,279
I mean, I think last time I checked gold is

1415
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:16,359
gold broke three thousand. I don't know where it's at

1416
01:28:16,399 --> 01:28:25,279
right now, Capitalissimo, our brother from the Saint Louis chapter,

1417
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:29,720
sends us ten dollars, and he says, Custom and Border

1418
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:32,960
Protection controls via rules. How many containers are examined at

1419
01:28:33,039 --> 01:28:36,319
entry ports. Congress mandated one hundred percent screening, but it

1420
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:39,520
is not done due to logistics. We could start physically

1421
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:44,920
searching every Chinese container tomorrow. Yeah, I completely agree, completely agree,

1422
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:50,960
thank you, sir. I mean, would that be feasible logistically

1423
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:51,319
doing that?

1424
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:57,520
Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't know. I don't know enough about logistics

1425
01:28:57,560 --> 01:28:59,960
in general, but certainly we've got, you know, the millim

1426
01:29:00,039 --> 01:29:03,439
meter wave scanning technology, so you could basically have these

1427
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:06,680
you know, cars rolling through something much like what you're

1428
01:29:09,199 --> 01:29:11,479
what you have to pass through at an airport check.

1429
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:14,079
You know they can do that. They've been I mean

1430
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:17,000
after the nine to eleven shit happened. I remember we

1431
01:29:17,079 --> 01:29:19,880
pitched one. We actually did some animations for a company

1432
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:23,600
to promote their through wall scanning technology, so you know,

1433
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:26,359
you can scan through solid objects without even having to

1434
01:29:26,399 --> 01:29:30,439
open them.

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01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:42,640
Speaker 1: Excellent. Pull on one second, Okay, Next up is Seasider

1436
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:44,560
for ten dollars. He sends us a salute, as he

1437
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:52,039
always does. Thank you very much, seasider, very grateful Paul

1438
01:29:52,119 --> 01:29:55,840
LUNs for twenty dollars. He says, the typical new society

1439
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:59,239
also takes a strong stance against Milk and his ilk

1440
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:03,520
as all good who's years should also screw all the

1441
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:07,479
US Navy's ship names. I completely agree, completely agree, mister Lansford.

1442
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:11,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, all the n S ship names are gay, and

1443
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:13,159
they've always been gay. They need to come up with

1444
01:30:13,199 --> 01:30:16,239
a better system of how to name those particular vessels.

1445
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 1: The n is not Navy, correct, it's something else.

1446
01:30:21,279 --> 01:30:25,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, In the us NS is merchant mariner or merchant marines.

1447
01:30:26,079 --> 01:30:30,119
These are logistics ships typically, so like the us NS

1448
01:30:30,119 --> 01:30:33,039
Harvey Milk of the us NS Bighorn, these are fleet oilers.

1449
01:30:33,399 --> 01:30:37,560
They're not typically crewed by US Navy personnel, that is,

1450
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:41,760
military personnel. They're civilian contractors is who they're actually crewed by,

1451
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:47,920
which is why there's a slight difference in designation. But anyway,

1452
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,119
in any case, yes, all the ship class names. There

1453
01:30:50,159 --> 01:30:53,079
needs to be a better pattern for these things. Generally speaking,

1454
01:30:53,119 --> 01:30:57,960
you have aircraft carriers named after presidents or famous admirals

1455
01:30:59,039 --> 01:31:01,880
or people who have like secretaries of the Navy who've

1456
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:04,720
done great things to get the navy, you know, in

1457
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:09,560
a good spot. Then you have the cruisers who are

1458
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:15,279
like famous battles destroyers who are either you know, less

1459
01:31:15,319 --> 01:31:22,239
well known admirals or you know, naval commanders. And then

1460
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:26,319
like the submarines are all named after states, and increasingly

1461
01:31:26,359 --> 01:31:30,159
you see like the LCS class named after mid sized

1462
01:31:30,239 --> 01:31:32,720
cities and that sort of thing. Used to be that

1463
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:37,720
battleships were named after states and that cruisers were named

1464
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:40,399
after cities and that sort of thing. But yeah, there

1465
01:31:40,399 --> 01:31:43,000
needs to be a better system for how we come

1466
01:31:43,079 --> 01:31:46,800
up with the USNS ship names. For sure, I agree.

1467
01:31:48,039 --> 01:31:50,760
Speaker 1: Melon for five dollars, he says. The most useful part

1468
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:54,000
of the provos IRA was the couch surfing network. On

1469
01:31:54,039 --> 01:31:56,680
an unrelated note, y'all need friends in every corner of

1470
01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:59,359
your states, indeed, and if you want to join a

1471
01:31:59,359 --> 01:32:02,199
wonderful network of friends and you know, just almost every

1472
01:32:02,199 --> 01:32:03,760
corner of the state, so I get involved in the

1473
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:12,520
old Glory Club. Yeah, it appears, it appears I skipped

1474
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:15,720
an entire page. Oops, sorry we skipped ahead a little bit.

1475
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:26,239
Blame Paul. Paul's an idiot, but sorry. Maple Copperhead for

1476
01:32:26,359 --> 01:32:30,000
five dollars says salute gentlemen from Georgia and your brethren

1477
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:32,560
in the James Ogleflort Society. Your data is safe with us.

1478
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:35,039
Are Indeed, if you're in North Georgia the Atlanta area,

1479
01:32:35,079 --> 01:32:39,359
you want to get involved, join the James Ogle Flort Society.

1480
01:32:39,479 --> 01:32:44,319
Yeah yeah, idiot, Paul, you can crucify me in the comments. Paladin,

1481
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:47,800
yise for fifty dollars again. I think that deserves some

1482
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:48,279
more gold.

1483
01:32:48,399 --> 01:32:51,199
Speaker 6: This is gold, mister Vonde, all my life, I've been

1484
01:32:51,239 --> 01:32:54,560
in love with its color. I welcome any enterprise that

1485
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:55,760
will increase my stock.

1486
01:32:58,279 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 1: And he says Hegseth has a long, long history of

1487
01:33:01,079 --> 01:33:05,439
lactose intolerance. This is not a surprise. Is he making

1488
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:07,640
a joke here? Is this serious? Is?

1489
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:08,359
Speaker 4: Haig said?

1490
01:33:08,399 --> 01:33:08,720
Speaker 3: Actually?

1491
01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:10,880
Speaker 4: Lactics intolerant? Is that like a literal thing?

1492
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:13,640
Speaker 3: I think it's a reference to Harvey Milk.

1493
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:19,800
Speaker 1: That's the thing. I never know with Paladin, whether he's

1494
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:22,399
whether he's he's being serious or if he's making a joke.

1495
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:26,239
Speaker 3: He's way he's way too clever for me. He posts

1496
01:33:26,279 --> 01:33:29,560
comments on my live stream and I'm like, oh, so

1497
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:32,039
I'm going to have to research stuff. I mean, it's

1498
01:33:32,079 --> 01:33:33,760
like darn, yeah.

1499
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:36,039
Speaker 1: No, Paladin's like usually five or six steps ahead, and

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01:33:36,039 --> 01:33:38,439
it's a lot of times he'll say something, I'm like, man,

1501
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:40,119
you said that in such a way that now I

1502
01:33:40,119 --> 01:33:43,720
actually have to sit here and think about it. Consider

1503
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:50,199
writing part time. Polly b for fifteen dollars, and he

1504
01:33:50,279 --> 01:33:55,079
says CRS equals Caucasian Removal Service, simple as nothing more.

1505
01:33:55,319 --> 01:33:58,319
I like that. I like that Caucasian Removal Service. Indeed,

1506
01:34:00,279 --> 01:34:03,520
thank you, sir Balera three nine to three for five dollars.

1507
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:07,479
GOP congressmen should hold Truth and Reconciliation hearings on the

1508
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:09,520
CRS if they want to raise any money from their

1509
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:12,800
base in the next election cycles. Well, I mean, I

1510
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:15,479
hope the CRS gets enough media attention to make that

1511
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:19,079
a reality, you know. I hope the CRS becomes enough

1512
01:34:19,119 --> 01:34:21,760
of an issue that congressmen will feel like they need

1513
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:25,680
to raise money or going after it in order to win.

1514
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:29,399
Speaker 4: You just need to ask very simple questions, what exactly

1515
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:32,560
was your role during the summer of Floyd? What were

1516
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:35,439
you doing? What have you been doing over the last

1517
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:36,560
ten years?

1518
01:34:37,199 --> 01:34:44,920
Speaker 1: Indeed, Count Arthur for five dollars says Community Relations Service

1519
01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:50,479
on Defense, National Lawyer's Guild on Offense so true. Completely agree,

1520
01:34:51,079 --> 01:34:56,039
Paladin YYZ for twenty dollars. He says, tyranny by the

1521
01:34:56,079 --> 01:34:58,960
majority is a very real thing. I can yeah, it

1522
01:34:59,079 --> 01:35:05,279
is true. Tyranny by the majority is a very real thing.

1523
01:35:05,319 --> 01:35:07,720
I'm trying to think of what he's specifically talking about. There,

1524
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:10,520
I say, very true, and then I think about it

1525
01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:11,840
for a second. I'm like, well, wait a minute, what's

1526
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:16,760
he talking about. I mean, it is true, the majority

1527
01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:25,439
can tyrannize. I don't know, maybe it's just they should

1528
01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:31,279
just take the comminant face value. Sergeant total for five dollars,

1529
01:35:31,319 --> 01:35:35,000
he says, mister lulbertarian elon, we can't care about piggyback

1530
01:35:35,199 --> 01:35:38,600
piggybanks when we should be focused on crushing every libtard

1531
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:43,079
institution and association. Completely agree. If only the Republican Party

1532
01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:45,399
shared your sentiment.

1533
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:51,439
Speaker 4: You can balance the budgets later. You need to get

1534
01:35:52,279 --> 01:35:55,960
the demographic situation under control. That like, if you're dispossessed,

1535
01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:59,159
the money doesn't matter because you're losing the money anyway.

1536
01:35:59,640 --> 01:35:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1537
01:36:00,119 --> 01:36:02,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a tweet that just went out about that

1538
01:36:02,399 --> 01:36:04,960
that was very well phrased. You know, if America stops

1539
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:08,159
being American, nothing else matters. I don't care about making

1540
01:36:08,199 --> 01:36:11,319
sure we give away a fiscally sound country to migrants,

1541
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:13,279
So that pretty much sums it up.

1542
01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:21,840
Speaker 1: Indeed, Kenny Day for twenty dollars, he says, thanks pards Well,

1543
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:26,920
thank you Kenny Day for your patronage watching the stream

1544
01:36:27,199 --> 01:36:33,439
elfemplar for five cringy. I can never read your stupid

1545
01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:34,880
old English name correctly.

1546
01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:39,760
Speaker 4: Walk Yeah, change your name back to Prince.

1547
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:42,479
Speaker 1: Walker Chris Well, I mean everyone knows who he is.

1548
01:36:44,079 --> 01:36:46,840
For five dollars, he says. My money is on Musk's

1549
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:50,479
handler poisoning his ketamine yay style. They drug the elite

1550
01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:53,760
to get them nuts. That wouldn't surprise me, you know,

1551
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:56,399
but I guess you know, I guess it turns into

1552
01:36:56,439 --> 01:36:59,880
a who who watches the elite druggers and how much

1553
01:36:59,840 --> 01:37:01,600
of the elite's drug in any good time?

1554
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:06,479
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure our audience would absolutely agree that

1555
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:09,880
they shouldn't be using ketamine, they should be using nicotine instead.

1556
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:13,159
Speaker 1: So true, And you can purchase nicotine at the app

1557
01:37:13,199 --> 01:37:15,399
affiliate link for the Old Glory Club that you can

1558
01:37:15,479 --> 01:37:20,439
find on our on our on Twitter page. I've personally

1559
01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:21,800
purchased a great deal of it.

1560
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:26,920
Speaker 3: I mean, is there anyone who hasn't thought that, you know,

1561
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:29,640
he he was doing all this while he was deep

1562
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:30,520
down in the K hole.

1563
01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:38,239
Speaker 1: You don't, you don't. You don't directly confront the lions

1564
01:37:38,239 --> 01:37:41,319
sober I will say that. But then again, maybe he

1565
01:37:41,439 --> 01:37:47,279
is just that much of a spurg Oh boy, who

1566
01:37:48,159 --> 01:37:56,119
any anyway? Enrigo Palazo for five dollars, he says, Uss.

1567
01:37:56,319 --> 01:37:59,119
Jim traffiicant, I don't know who that is.

1568
01:37:59,800 --> 01:38:03,279
Speaker 3: Oh, traffic count was a hit. Oh man, his speech

1569
01:38:03,359 --> 01:38:08,840
before before the Congress that he gave that basically got him.

1570
01:38:09,079 --> 01:38:11,000
I mean they found a way to throw him in

1571
01:38:11,079 --> 01:38:14,079
jail after he gave that speech. It was early days

1572
01:38:14,119 --> 01:38:17,239
and good days, good.

1573
01:38:17,079 --> 01:38:26,399
Speaker 1: Man must be before my time. Next up our penultimate superchat,

1574
01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:32,399
Sully the Amalekite for ten dollars, he says, Uss George L. Rockwell,

1575
01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:36,039
he was a naval aviator after all, achieved the rank

1576
01:38:36,079 --> 01:38:42,800
of commander. Yeah, he certainly was, and he certainly did.

1577
01:38:45,279 --> 01:38:47,800
And then solely the Amalekite for another five dollars, he says,

1578
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:53,560
sorry usns Rockwell, and that a barring any last minute

1579
01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:57,359
buzzer beaters, you guys said in that is the full

1580
01:38:57,399 --> 01:39:02,000
extent of our super chats this evening. So yeah, Pete,

1581
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:02,840
you have anything to shill?

1582
01:39:04,359 --> 01:39:07,760
Speaker 3: Paladin just threw in, threw in a quick super chat.

1583
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:12,479
Speaker 1: Oh he did, he did. He did Wild and YYZ

1584
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:15,439
for twenty five dollars. He says the tyranny comment was

1585
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:18,399
a reference to Bernet's Eluel and Littmann. Well, thank you

1586
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:20,159
for clarifying that. Now, I kind of now I know

1587
01:39:20,159 --> 01:39:27,159
what you're talking about a little bit more. Excellent, Pete,

1588
01:39:27,159 --> 01:39:28,079
you got anything to shill?

1589
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:34,119
Speaker 3: Just dropped a an episode with Cameron McGregor from the

1590
01:39:34,279 --> 01:39:38,560
U from the Backlash podcast. We had a really good talk.

1591
01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:42,399
I think he uh you know, we agreed on a lot.

1592
01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:46,239
He saw my appearance on there on their show and

1593
01:39:47,239 --> 01:39:49,119
decided to come on and talk about some of the

1594
01:39:49,159 --> 01:39:51,920
things that he sees and check it out. I think

1595
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:55,520
he'll I think people are going to be uh surprised

1596
01:39:55,560 --> 01:40:00,319
by this conversation and probably want to hear more from him.

1597
01:40:00,359 --> 01:40:02,399
And his YouTube channel is pretty cool.

1598
01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:04,359
Speaker 1: Whose son is that?

1599
01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:07,760
Speaker 3: By the way, it is Colonel Douglas Macgary your son.

1600
01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:11,520
Speaker 1: Yes, excellent, just just figure that should be shared. Yeah,

1601
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:13,960
go check that out. Pete does great work. I listened

1602
01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:16,800
to his stuff very regularly. Mister Managel, do you have

1603
01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:19,720
anything to shill?

1604
01:40:19,880 --> 01:40:24,279
Speaker 4: I do, actually, so this is not related to any

1605
01:40:24,319 --> 01:40:26,319
of my content and you all know where to find me.

1606
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:30,680
But I understand that there are some of the Texas

1607
01:40:30,760 --> 01:40:34,399
guys who are getting organized and getting up and starting

1608
01:40:34,439 --> 01:40:38,800
to do stuff. So if anybody is in the Texas area,

1609
01:40:39,199 --> 01:40:44,039
specifically in Houston or the Austin area, you guys, or

1610
01:40:44,039 --> 01:40:46,359
in any area of Texas or Louisiana, you guys, can

1611
01:40:46,399 --> 01:40:48,680
send an email to the Old Glory Club and try

1612
01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:51,800
to get in contact with us. We would like to

1613
01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:52,800
have you, and.

1614
01:40:53,359 --> 01:40:59,199
Speaker 1: Yes, outstanding, Yes, get involved. If you're in Texas and

1615
01:40:59,239 --> 01:41:01,960
you're in the park where mister Mandel is, please get

1616
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:05,039
involved in his way. It's it would be It would

1617
01:41:05,039 --> 01:41:06,239
be great to have you.

1618
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:10,079
Speaker 4: Yes, we just started the Dallas fourth chapter. There is

1619
01:41:10,119 --> 01:41:13,600
the Black Leveled Prairie Readers chapter to be precise with

1620
01:41:13,640 --> 01:41:18,359
the name. But the other areas of Texas are are

1621
01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:21,199
a little sluggish in comparison, and we would like to

1622
01:41:21,279 --> 01:41:23,439
change that. So yes, do you.

1623
01:41:23,439 --> 01:41:30,319
Speaker 1: Join mister semi real quick before I get to you,

1624
01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:33,640
we got one last buzzer beater super chat. Do I do?

1625
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:36,479
I have to read this live? On air, do I

1626
01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:39,239
have to I guess it?

1627
01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:42,520
Speaker 2: To me, it's accepted. It's it's good form.

1628
01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:47,000
Speaker 1: You most all right, Enrico Palazzo for for two dollars,

1629
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:50,600
he says, Bernhei's sauce is what Hardy Milk gives.

1630
01:41:54,359 --> 01:41:56,159
Speaker 4: Oh there's another buzzer beater too.

1631
01:41:56,279 --> 01:41:59,680
Speaker 1: From Enrico Plazo again he says, he says, what about

1632
01:42:00,199 --> 01:42:03,359
Ehud barak Elon I I have I have no idea.

1633
01:42:04,039 --> 01:42:06,199
I have no idea what he's saying there. Maybe one

1634
01:42:06,199 --> 01:42:06,800
of you might.

1635
01:42:08,479 --> 01:42:09,119
Speaker 2: No idea.

1636
01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:14,439
Speaker 1: It's it's Greek. To me, Palazzo, I can't. I can't

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understand what you're talking about there, But thank you for

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your patronage. All right, mister Semiagog, do you have anything

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to show? I know you talked about some streams you

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have coming up.

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Speaker 2: Uh well, yeah, one in future. I have scheduled for

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a couple of weeks out with King Pild. I intend

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to pick his brain because he's someone who has always

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followed the uh the tech bro scene fairly closely, so

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I'm looking forward to speaking with him. I've had him

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on for a couple of streams in the past, and

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they've been very interesting from from my perspective at any rate.

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All I would say is please do follow me over

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01:42:47,800 --> 01:42:51,600
on X follow me on Telegram if you like I'm

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not as active there, follow me on YouTube please, and

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uh yeah, I'll be producing content otherwise. Yeah, just very

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happy to be here. Thank you very much for the invitation. Gentlemen.

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It's always always a pleasure to talk with you.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you for coming on. We're very glad to

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have you, and anytime you want to come back, you're

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most welcome here. Hopefully next time something happens in in

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Turkey and we can we can have you talk about that.

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I don't I don't know if we can we can

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make Turkey relate to the United States, but we I'm sure,

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I'm sure we can find a way. We got good

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brain power here at the OGC. All right, ladies and gentlemen.

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With that, thank you all very much for joining us.

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I hope you enjoyed the stream, and I hope you

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all have a very good week a very good and

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safe weekend, and God bless you all.

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Speaker 3: Take care