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Speaker 2: Suesday, Tuesday, Someday, Honor flight Tuesdays. Yeah, well we could
Speaker 2: use a vacation. That'll be me next week. Good to
Speaker 2: see Sean mcmannnon. They're coming for Joe Stracker and uh
Speaker 2: happy to report it is honor flight Tuesday. I got
Speaker 2: a heads up and a reminder. I knew it was
Speaker 2: going on, but uh, curbbage. Mike, my submarine or friend
Speaker 2: Mike is there active downtown at CVG seeing the veterans off.
Speaker 2: He sent me a couple of photographs of the veterans
Speaker 2: all lined up getting real excited about taking off. And
Speaker 2: of course, excuse me, uh clear, you're in the vocal
Speaker 2: cords out this morning. An opportunity to celebrate and participate.
Speaker 2: It is, of course the Welcome Home rally, which is
Speaker 2: just absolutely truly amazing. If you have an opportunity to
Speaker 2: be at CVG Level C tonight around nine oh five,
Speaker 2: I recommend getting there a little bit early. You'll be
Speaker 2: glad you went. Real healthy dose of patriotism. The veterans
Speaker 2: just get so excited and they've had a really, really
Speaker 2: long day. You got some senior veterans in that group too,
Speaker 2: not all of them, but after an entire day, it's
Speaker 2: like twelve hours or so, or maybe even longer than
Speaker 2: I think. It's actually longer than that they've been up
Speaker 2: at about But it's a real shot of adrenaline for them,
Speaker 2: and it's a real shot of adrenaline for you too.
Speaker 2: So CVEG tonight nine oh five, level C. Just follow
Speaker 2: the crowds. There'll be a lot of people there, and
Speaker 2: if you have an opportunity to take some young people there,
Speaker 2: I cannot encourage you enough to do that. It's just
Speaker 2: really cool, absolutely cool thing going on. Coming up on
Speaker 2: the FITCHW five GARC Morning Show today seven oh five.
Speaker 2: God love Peter Brownson. What a great guy, terrific author, historian.
Speaker 2: He writes wonderful, wonderful books, and you've had him on
Speaker 2: the program many times over the years. Consider him a friend,
Speaker 2: and I always enjoy our conversations. Quite engaging he is today.
Speaker 2: Actually on tomorrow is the twenty fourth anniversary of the
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Riots, and so Peter's gonna be talking a little
Speaker 2: about that because he wrote a book about it, Behind
Speaker 2: the Lines, Untold Story of the Cincinnati Riots. It just
Speaker 2: seems like, well, many cases yesterday, but in many other
Speaker 2: cases it seems like a lot longer time ago than that.
Speaker 2: So Peter Bronson on that his thoughts, his recollections, and
Speaker 2: you know how far we've come since then?
Speaker 1: Have we made any progress?
Speaker 2: I'd like to think so Inside Scoop it is Tuesday,
Speaker 2: we get the Inside Scoop with bright Barton News. Today,
Speaker 2: London Bureau Chief Oliver Lane returns to the program talk
Speaker 2: about what's going on in Europe, what it means for
Speaker 2: us and an Empower You seminar. Oliver Lane actually doing
Speaker 2: an Empower Youth seminar taking place tonight seven pm. While
Speaker 2: authoritarianism has been on their eyes among other among the
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Speaker 2: a while now. And then Doctor Show Joseph Shaughnessy, one
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Speaker 2: five one, three, seven, four, nine fifty five hundred, eight
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty two to three talk go with pound
Speaker 2: five fifty on eight and t phones of course, tariff's
Speaker 2: on the plate. China's retaliate. They're retaliating. Trump's threatening an
Speaker 2: additional fifty percent tariffs.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Some countries are stepping up and saying no, let's sit
Speaker 2: down to talk. Taiwan has offered zero tariffs and more
Speaker 2: investment in the United States. I call that progress. Japan
Speaker 2: wants to sit down and negotiate. Been at in Yaho
Speaker 2: announced yesterday that Israel is going to eliminate the trade
Speaker 2: deficit with the United States and get rid of reciprocal tariffs.
Speaker 2: So progress going in the right direction. But this one
Speaker 2: troubled me, moving away from tariffs, and you know it's
Speaker 2: sad when I read it. The realities of what is
Speaker 2: revealed in this poll. Rutgers University and Network Contagion Research
Speaker 2: joined together to a poll. But the fact that it
Speaker 2: doesn't shock me. The majority of self identified leftists you
Speaker 2: know who you are, say, will be at least somewhat
Speaker 2: justified to murder Donald Trump, murder them. Network and Tagent
Speaker 2: Research Institute, and again Rutgers University Social Perception LAD released
Speaker 2: this poll yesterday as a survey was says support for
Speaker 2: political violence in the United States or the State's results
Speaker 2: found the political violence targeting Trump and of course Elon Musk,
Speaker 2: in their words, is becoming increasingly normalized. Welcome to social media.
Speaker 2: Fifty five percent of those self identified as left of
Speaker 2: center said murdering Trump would have at least somewhat justified,
Speaker 2: and a share of forty eight percent of leftists said
Speaker 2: the same thing about murdering Elon Musk. You got to
Speaker 2: contemplate that, you know, my entire life, I have been
Speaker 2: a you know, I have transformed.
Speaker 1: I was going to kill them all.
Speaker 2: Let God sorted out conservative a long long time ago,
Speaker 2: and I woke up to the benefits and realities of
Speaker 2: my little l libertarian political viewpoint much much more tolerant.
Speaker 2: I appreciate freedom so much more. I appreciate other people's
Speaker 2: points of view so much more. And I'm willing to
Speaker 2: sit down and discuss various points of view and hopefully
Speaker 2: come up with a better answer. You know, the more
Speaker 2: you talk, the more you might learn, and the more
Speaker 2: willing you are to listen to someone else, the more
Speaker 2: there is a possibility that you might change your position.
Speaker 2: You may find yourself in the wrong position. And reflecting
Speaker 2: back on my life over the years, I admit that
Speaker 2: I have been on the wrong side on certain issues.
Speaker 2: I've always been conservative. I've always believed in, you know,
Speaker 2: low taxation and small government. But you know, in so
Speaker 2: far as social issues are concerned, going back to the
Speaker 2: libertarian boiled down principles, I trust you with your zipper
Speaker 2: and I trust you with your wallet. Makes life easier
Speaker 2: when you just can live side by side with people
Speaker 2: of different philosophies. But hey, don't take what's mine, I
Speaker 2: won't take what's yours, and I won't try to tell
Speaker 2: you how to live your life. That's just me boiled down.
Speaker 2: But you know you to ask an eighteen year old
Speaker 2: Brian Thomas. That fine. But at no point in anywhere
Speaker 2: in my life that I think it would have ever
Speaker 2: been appropriate to murder someone who is on the op
Speaker 2: opposite side of the political ledger of me, regardless of
Speaker 2: how far opposite they are. I just don't understand this,
Speaker 2: the idea of violence being embraced by so many people. Overall,
Speaker 2: thirty eight percent that was at least somewhat justified to
Speaker 2: murder Donald Trump thirty one percent of the same about
Speaker 2: Elon Musk, The surveyors found a quote broader assassination culture
Speaker 2: appears to be emerging within the segments of the US
Speaker 2: public on the extreme left. Note there is an absence
Speaker 2: of the same conclusions on the extreme right, according to
Speaker 2: their findings, quote the finding signal a threat to political
Speaker 2: stability and public safety. Well look what we got going
Speaker 2: on out in the world. CEOs of Evil Healthcare Corporation
Speaker 2: is getting gunned down, shot in the back of the head.
Speaker 2: And the reaction from so many people on the left
Speaker 2: is to embrace the guy, sell t shirts with the
Speaker 2: guy's picture on it, set up funding for this, you know,
Speaker 2: this assassin.
Speaker 1: They've got him on film doing it.
Speaker 2: Survey also found thirty nine point eight percent of respondent
Speaker 2: said is at least somewhat acceptable to destroy a Tesla
Speaker 2: dealership and protest? And you know, as this goes on
Speaker 2: and all of this is being celebrated online, you know,
Speaker 2: and it's always easy to say, you know, if this
Speaker 2: was the right wing going it, if the right was
Speaker 2: doing us and they went after a Shaw and Shaw,
Speaker 2: and you know, there'd be absolute outrage. Well that's because
Speaker 2: the mainstream media tends to lean left, if you haven't
Speaker 2: noticed that, And yeah, I do believe there would be
Speaker 2: a lot more outrage. But you know, fundamentally where our
Speaker 2: are our politicians. The silence from the left is deafening
Speaker 2: on this violence. It's been express against well doge for example.
Speaker 2: They're uncovering fraud, waste, and abuse. They're not impacting many
Speaker 2: people's lives. Yes, they are pairing back the size and
Speaker 2: scope of a government that has gotten so big it
Speaker 2: can't account for the money it takes from you. And
Speaker 2: you happens to be everybody across the political spectrum, assuming
Speaker 2: you're working. And how is that a bad thing unless
Speaker 2: you're part of some global cabal that wants to get
Speaker 2: rid of the United States completely. And I know there's
Speaker 2: a segment of the of the political spectrum out there
Speaker 2: that is that way. I'd like to hope and get
Speaker 2: down on my knees and pray that that segment is very,
Speaker 2: very small. That the vast majority of us want to
Speaker 2: live in our own country and and and have the
Speaker 2: freedoms that we enjoy, want to be able to get
Speaker 2: him and go to work, not be told to you
Speaker 2: know what we can and cannot buy, which seems to
Speaker 2: be what the globist cabal want to do. Control the
Speaker 2: terms of conditions of every element of our lives. We
Speaker 2: like to think the vast majority of us here in
Speaker 2: this country do not ascribe to that. But where is
Speaker 2: the outrage and where is the resistance? I mean, you'd
Speaker 2: think that some of the Democrat Party who has to
Speaker 2: understand that, you know, in the face of all of
Speaker 2: the years of screaming about and hatred that was stirred
Speaker 2: and the ire that was directed toward Donald Trump, evil
Speaker 2: orange man, you couldn't mention his name without putting the
Speaker 2: whole stream of expletives in front of it. Or you know, racist, nazi, homophobes, emophobe,
Speaker 2: you know, on and on and on and on and on.
Speaker 2: We heard of that for years and years and years,
Speaker 2: and yet he beat Kamala Harris in the popular vote.
Speaker 2: And as more and more analysis comes out, you know,
Speaker 2: it was a lot of the positions that the left embraced,
Speaker 2: the far left wing of the Democrat Party by all accounts,
Speaker 2: not just Brian Thomas's opinions, the opinions of many people
Speaker 2: who are you know, regular Democrat commentators, folks that are
Speaker 2: Democrats that do political analysis, pollsters, people even within the
Speaker 2: Democrat Party. You know, we're in the wrong directions. Vice
Speaker 2: presidential candidate Waltz actually admitted that the other day out loud.
Speaker 2: You know, we need to rethink where we are. The
Speaker 2: American people do not embrace this far left craziness. And
Speaker 2: as with that in mind, if you want to try
Speaker 2: to rehabilitate yourself, don't you think that you, as a Democrat,
Speaker 2: were doing yourself a service if you're an elected capacity,
Speaker 2: or if you're the head of some group or organization
Speaker 2: that you know, we got to quit burning people's property.
Speaker 2: We gotta quit destroying a product that many people went
Speaker 2: out and bought in the name of what saving the planet,
Speaker 2: perhaps zero emissions cars. Maybe they bought the product because
Speaker 2: they wanted it, and Tesla makes an outstanding product just
Speaker 2: because you know, Elon Musk goes out and saves us
Speaker 2: billions of dollars from going overseas for absolutely bad crap,
Speaker 2: insane programs, and is following the money trail, and we're
Speaker 2: learning more and more that maybe that money didn't quite
Speaker 2: make it overseas and maybe it's being put to the
Speaker 2: various purposes. I don't know, but how can that be
Speaker 2: a bad thing so much so that you can justify
Speaker 2: destroying your neighbor's car. And probably a decision that was
Speaker 2: made before Elon Musk had anything to do with the
Speaker 2: Department of Governmental Efficion, and see back when he was
Speaker 2: a cool guy. The silence is deafening, and I don't know,
Speaker 2: I listen. I'm not here to try to help the
Speaker 2: Democrats out. I just they puzzled that they don't seem
Speaker 2: to have more common sense and logic and reason about this.
Speaker 2: But now look at what these polling reflects. More and
Speaker 2: more people out there embraced the concept of murdering them.
Speaker 2: And I bet if you set him in, they couldn't
Speaker 2: even figure out a reason why they could justify the
Speaker 2: even the thought of murdering them. Five nineteen fifty five
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Speaker 2: twenty three on an honor flight Tuesday. Let's go straight
Speaker 2: to the phones where my submarine or friend cribbage Mike
Speaker 2: is there live. Welcome Mike, Thanks for reminding me this
Speaker 2: morning it is honor flight day.
Speaker 1: How is it down there?
Speaker 5: I tell you just about everybody's checked in, the bagpipes
Speaker 5: are stationed, and Cheryl Pop's stop ready to kick off
Speaker 5: this ceremony. That's going to be a wonderful day. And
Speaker 5: I'm almost I'm mad at myself because I didn't bring
Speaker 5: my cribbage board because we actually have another submarine vetteran
Speaker 5: the work flight.
Speaker 2: Now, can you as is it safe to presume, ussume
Speaker 2: or no with one certainty that if they were a
Speaker 2: submariner that you do know how to play the game
Speaker 2: of crivage.
Speaker 5: When I was an instructor at submarine school, that was
Speaker 5: usually day two of training. You can't pass cribbage off
Speaker 5: to the surface fleet.
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that.
Speaker 2: So what the vast majority of veterans I guess are Vietnam, Yes, or.
Speaker 5: Almost almost one hundred percent on this flight, just looking
Speaker 5: at the itinerary, and predominantly mostly Army, Army and Navy
Speaker 5: are out of the eighty eight, we got nine Marines,
Speaker 5: twenty air Force. But just everybody's fired up and ready
Speaker 5: to go and just can't wait to get them there
Speaker 5: to DC see the memorials. I mean, even though I
Speaker 5: know what's coming, Flora, famous American just allergy outworks all
Speaker 5: day long.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, tonight at nine o'clock.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and you might experience analogy outbreak if you are
Speaker 2: there at CVG at nine oh five, get their early
Speaker 2: for the welcome home rally. It's just such a worthy
Speaker 2: thing to do. So are you flying this time, Mike.
Speaker 4: Yes, sir.
Speaker 5: Myself and mister Andrew Pappas will be on the flight
Speaker 5: to experience the entire day with these veterans and just
Speaker 5: cannot wait.
Speaker 2: Well, having done it twice, I know what a treat
Speaker 2: it is and a pleasure it is to be there
Speaker 2: and participate, and I know you're going to have a
Speaker 2: fantastic day. Godspeed and safe travels to each and every
Speaker 2: one of you. I will look forward to hearing. Maybe
Speaker 2: you give me a call tomorrow morning and tell my
Speaker 2: listeners what the welcome home event was like is It's
Speaker 2: always a great thing to get a recap on the
Speaker 2: whole day as well as the welcome home rally.
Speaker 5: Maybe my pleasure, Brian Thomas, and once again, thank you
Speaker 5: so very much for your one percent support.
Speaker 2: Hey man, it's the least I can do. I love
Speaker 2: you guys, Be safe, have fun and again I'll look
Speaker 2: forward to here getting a recap tomorrow from you, Mike.
Speaker 1: Safe travels.
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Speaker 2: Man accuse letting his dogs attack Cincinnati police officers and
Speaker 2: Diameda grand jury yesterday. According to the Hamilin County Prosecutor's office,
Speaker 2: twenty six year old Darryl Stowers was indicted on one
Speaker 2: filonious assault charts as well as two additional misdemeanor charges
Speaker 2: of assault and resisting arrest. Since The police said March
Speaker 2: twenty nine, they responded to one hundred Craft Street around
Speaker 2: one am after receiving a report that someone had fired shots.
Speaker 2: Got there, women told police that Stowers had hit her
Speaker 2: with a gun during an argument over her issues in
Speaker 2: the neighborhood. Police said the woman had injuries to her ear.
Speaker 2: Two police officers attempted to arrest Stowers, and they said
Speaker 2: he ran into his house and released his dogs. Prosecutor
Speaker 2: state Stowers did this intentionally so the dogs would attack
Speaker 2: the police officers since a police said one officer managed
Speaker 2: to tackle Stowers and got bitten on the calf by
Speaker 2: one of the dogs. Stowers remains in the Hamilton Kunty
Speaker 2: Detention Center on a twenty five thousand dollars bond. See
Speaker 2: what are since at police officers have to go through
Speaker 2: each and every day? This kind of thing happens all
Speaker 2: the time. It's a shame too that we don't support
Speaker 2: our police more often. Can you imagine going to work
Speaker 2: every day realizing that this is the kind of thing
Speaker 2: that might very well happen to you. Good Butler County
Speaker 2: man found dead along a riverbank in Butler County, said
Speaker 2: Rob Bron, who spokesperson for the Pendleton County Emergency Management Services.
Speaker 2: Bron said the man found Monday around four pm at
Speaker 2: the end of Matter Street near Butler Bridge. Kentucky State
Speaker 2: Police say they received a call about a possible drowning
Speaker 2: after a citizen reported seeing a body wearing a life
Speaker 2: jacket and floodwaters. Pendleton County Search and Rescue team recover
Speaker 2: the body of sixty six year old Robert E. Singleton
Speaker 2: from Butler. According to Kentucky State Police officials also found
Speaker 2: his canoe and what they believe is his truck. Bron said.
Speaker 2: Singleton was a member of the Lions Club and a
Speaker 2: lifelong environmentalist. Cornel Ronnie had a heart for making Pendleton
Speaker 2: County look good. Butler one of the two cities in
Speaker 2: Pendleton County that had a mandatory evactuation. Evacuation orders lifted yesterday.
Speaker 2: Residents must now show proof of residence before they're allowed
Speaker 2: to re enter the city limits, according to a that's
Speaker 2: good to prevent looters from getting in there. Hamilton County
Speaker 2: Prosecutor's office determined the actions taken by a Lachland police
Speaker 2: officer and the fatal officer involved shooting on northbound Ice
Speaker 2: seventy five was justified. Forty eight year old Samuel Mumiarutt
Speaker 2: That's as good as I can get at, Folks of
Speaker 2: Woodlawn was the man who was shot and killed on
Speaker 2: the shoulder Eye seventy five near Glendell Milford Road. Happen
Speaker 2: while police from multiple agencies searched for suspects who fled
Speaker 2: a crashed stolen vehicle that had just led police on
Speaker 2: a chase in two counties two thirty in the morning
Speaker 2: on March nineteenth, Hamilton County Prosecutor County pillichs said Mumaru
Speaker 2: Tt was seen walking on the interstate when Lockholm police
Speaker 2: officers responded to the scene. Officer from two counties were
Speaker 2: looking for suspects after that crash. After spotting this guy
Speaker 2: walking on the highway, Lachland officers stopped the cruiser with
Speaker 2: lights and sirens on. Officer used seven verbal commands, but
Speaker 2: m are Utt was not listening. Pilich explained. He was
Speaker 2: also holding a metal pipe or rod in his hands.
Speaker 2: Body camera footage shows the sheriff's deputy with a canine
Speaker 2: responding to the confrontation, and the video Lachlan officer is
Speaker 2: heard saying, quote he's got something in his hands as
Speaker 2: well as he's not listening to my orders. Phillich said
Speaker 2: the officers gave multiple commands, even deploy his taser before
Speaker 2: firing several rounds at the suspect. Pillich said, quote, no
Speaker 2: officer ever wants to resort to the use of force.
Speaker 2: The officer feared for his life and first tried to
Speaker 2: subdue this man with a taser. Our house, our hearts
Speaker 2: go out to the Mi Miratutis family, but it's important
Speaker 2: every officer who has dedicated their life to protecting citizens
Speaker 2: returns to their own family at night. He was confirmed
Speaker 2: dead at the scene corner of the Prosecutor's office. It's
Speaker 2: unknown if the forty eight year old was even involved
Speaker 2: in the police pursuit or just happened to be walking
Speaker 2: on the interstate. I'll I hope your Criminal Investigations has
Speaker 2: been investigating the shooting since that morning. Yesterday, BCIs spokesman
Speaker 2: said the agency's investigation remains ongoing. Mermaiy Rtt's family, he
Speaker 2: told Fox nineteen last month, they believe he may have
Speaker 2: been an innocent bystander. He didn't speak English and was
Speaker 2: a refugee from the Congo. Days before he was shot, though,
Speaker 2: Woodlawn police arrested him on an assault charge. Court show
Speaker 2: record show he was accused by a man who said
Speaker 2: he did not know Memorary Utt of attacking him with
Speaker 2: a white metal poll and trying to hit him with
Speaker 2: it at the metro bus stop. The officer who shot
Speaker 2: this guy not wearing a body camera. That's because the
Speaker 2: four Lachland officers who had been testing the devices for
Speaker 2: the department weren't working at the time. According to the
Speaker 2: police chief and his explanation five point thirty five forty
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Speaker 7: More on Bryan your story about Officer mass shooting story
Speaker 7: thik tek is my bloods boyle uh. First of all,
Speaker 7: the place, only have you use the right to use
Speaker 7: legal force any of any of the rest of us.
Speaker 7: Your life is in you know, a major of Gray
Speaker 7: Bodley harm or dead. There was no way that cop was.
Speaker 2: In any of that.
Speaker 4: The cops in my onion, they.
Speaker 7: Go through the academy they train for the shooting and
Speaker 7: you're probably not gonna like this, but the majority of
Speaker 7: them are trigger happy. They want to use that training
Speaker 7: regardless of the situation that cops should be charged to murder,
Speaker 7: and for the fop set back the cop and do
Speaker 7: everything they can to clear him is an injustice. This
Speaker 7: happens a lot. That happens, maybe not in the the
Speaker 7: case of someone getting murdered, but people's rights being violated.
Speaker 7: Police assaulting people, pulling people over for no reasons, in
Speaker 7: lying about why they pulled over, and searching for a
Speaker 7: reason to justify their detention, and then whatever comes after that, And.
Speaker 1: That is one of the reasons.
Speaker 4: I guess the police have.
Speaker 7: The bad rep And I'm a huge conservative. I'm back
Speaker 7: to good cops, but not the bad ones. And I
Speaker 7: used to be that one of those people. Back to blue,
Speaker 7: Back to blue until happens to you, and it happened
Speaker 7: to me back in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3: Completely change my outlook on cops as I am come
Speaker 3: to my house, lie, assault me, take me to jail,
Speaker 3: and throw me in a cage for absolutely nothing. And
Speaker 3: this until the justice system is reformed. The stuff that
Speaker 3: is going to continue. You need to get rid of
Speaker 3: the qualified community.
Speaker 7: I know there's a bill to a petition circulating to
Speaker 7: be put on the ballot coming up to.
Speaker 4: In qualified muni.
Speaker 7: There's five other states that done it. Colorado, for example,
Speaker 7: there has been no drop in police recruiting. Everything's remain
Speaker 7: the same until they get read of qualified immunity. Cops
Speaker 7: have this free range to do what they want because
Speaker 7: they one, they know the fops go on.
Speaker 4: To back it.
Speaker 7: They have assurance to cover any damage as they do,
Speaker 7: and more times than not they're found not guilty and
Speaker 7: they're allowed to keep their job and do the sort
Speaker 7: of thing again.
Speaker 2: Well, I'd love to unfold there, and I suppose the
Speaker 2: attorneyman he would like to swear you in for deposition
Speaker 2: and go through all of the allegations you just made.
Speaker 2: But I find it an absolute insult. You suggest that
Speaker 2: they're all trigger happy and can't wait to use deadly force.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw a giant barber streisand flag on that. Yes,
Speaker 2: it does happen from time to time, but you're in
Speaker 2: a very stressful situation. And my sister twenty five years
Speaker 2: of proud service on the CINCINNTI police force. Never had
Speaker 2: to use deadly force, never wanted to. Fortunately, in spite
Speaker 2: of the fact of all that she had been through,
Speaker 2: spit on, beat up, punched, abused, never had to head
Speaker 2: to go down that road. And the officers that I
Speaker 2: know don't share your opinion of them, so you know
Speaker 2: you're entitled to your opinion. Sounds like you want to
Speaker 2: defund the police, So you go ahead and go down
Speaker 2: that road and you can enjoy like living in a
Speaker 2: city like Seattle, which has turned into a hellhole because
Speaker 2: of having that attitude and generally demonizing police at large.
Speaker 2: Let's see what Carl's got this morning. Karl, welcome in
Speaker 2: the Morning Show. In a very happy Tuesday to you.
Speaker 8: Good morning, Brian Say. I heard Christopher Smytherman on your
Speaker 8: show yesterday and he was talking about how drivers are
Speaker 8: having tire blowouts due to the potholes. Yeah, well, he's
Speaker 8: absolutely correct, and the drivers are filing claims with the
Speaker 8: city and the claims are being denied. I've got a
Speaker 8: tip here. Drivers need to check the three one one
Speaker 8: system before they file the claim, and they also need
Speaker 8: to take a photo of the pothole. If the pothole
Speaker 8: was large enough to blow a tire. Chances are that
Speaker 8: it's been reported, and this happened in the neighborhood. I
Speaker 8: reported those potholes for years to the city and they
Speaker 8: never got filled. A driver had a blowout, and of
Speaker 8: course the driver filed a claim with the city, and
Speaker 8: the city denied the claim. I had to claim in
Speaker 8: front of me. The city says that they had no
Speaker 8: if they had no prior knowledge of the potholes, so
Speaker 8: they shouldn't have to pay for it. Ohio revived Code
Speaker 8: twenty seven forty four point zero five limits claims to
Speaker 8: circumstances where the city had to have prior knowledge and
Speaker 8: filed and failed to act within a reasonable amount of time.
Speaker 8: And then the city goes on to say this decision
Speaker 8: is final. My opinion is there needs to be an
Speaker 8: investigation of these claims. Well, yeah, scandalus. This is ridiculous.
Speaker 8: If there are any trouble TV troubleshooters out there listening
Speaker 8: to the show this morning, they might want to do
Speaker 8: a story on this.
Speaker 2: That's a great idea, Carl, That's a great idea, because
Speaker 2: I've had a couple other callers say the same thing. Actually,
Speaker 2: I believe there was one of the local News reported
Speaker 2: on it that all these claims get denied because the
Speaker 2: city says, well, we've been there, you know, we we
Speaker 2: just recently, you know, we're out on that road and
Speaker 2: we fixed that pothole. Must have magically appeared in the
Speaker 2: time we were there fixing the road and when you
Speaker 2: had your damage done to your car. So it sounds
Speaker 2: like a convenient and simplified or simple way of them
Speaker 2: just denying the claim because I think the presumption is
Speaker 2: on their side many many times. But if there is
Speaker 2: a prior report, they were on notice and that's the
Speaker 2: critical element needed to get your money back.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I liked the idea. Appreciate the calls set five forty
Speaker 2: six if you have car cede talk station five fifty
Speaker 2: two if you have CARSD talk station stack is stupid.
Speaker 2: We got to de Ral, Florida, where a woman was
Speaker 2: arrested after she allegedly condomand at one thousands of dollars
Speaker 2: during a bogus tarot card reading and spiritual cleansing. Well,
Speaker 2: you know, all tarot card readings and spiritual cleansings are bogus.
Speaker 2: I'm on record anyway. Cord to the rest report. Cameron
Speaker 2: Valdez del Miguel sixty seven, arrested and facing charges of
Speaker 2: organized scheme to defraud, grand theft, and resisting an officer
Speaker 2: without violence. The con began March eleventh. The man found
Speaker 2: a flyer on his car for a tarot card reading
Speaker 2: and called the number mistake, spoke to the woman, the
Speaker 2: report read, and agreed to a tarot card reading session
Speaker 2: for twenty bucks. Two days later, the man went to
Speaker 2: the apartment met Valdiz d Miguel, who reportedly referred herself
Speaker 2: as Maria Rodriguez. During the reading, she told the man
Speaker 2: he needed a deeper spiritual cleansing procedure. That's in quote
Speaker 2: that of course costs more, uh specifically between six hundred
Speaker 2: and seven hundred dollars. There's your up charge you want
Speaker 2: that clear coat. Trusting her advice, the man agreed to
Speaker 2: partial payment and transferred two hundred dollars through Zell. He
Speaker 2: then returned to the apartment met with Valdi's de Miguel
Speaker 2: again on March fourteenth for the so called spiritual cleansing
Speaker 2: session he had pre paid.
Speaker 1: A portion of report detailed.
Speaker 2: Did Valdez de Miguel ask the man during the session
Speaker 2: about his available bank balance?
Speaker 1: Red flag again, and.
Speaker 2: He reportedly told her he had eight thousand dollars. After
Speaker 2: that response, Valdez de Miguel then allegedly asked him to
Speaker 2: bring the full amount next time and assured him that
Speaker 2: if she were to use the money in a ritual,
Speaker 2: it would double and she would return it the same day.
Speaker 2: How many red flags we got in this? One man
Speaker 2: returned to the apartment with three grand in cash March nineteenth,
Speaker 2: where Valdez de Miguel placed the money in a bag
Speaker 2: with eggs during the ritual. The report state of the
Speaker 2: bag was broken upon opening. The man claimed that it
Speaker 2: was what was left inside were broken eggs and worms.
Speaker 2: Man told authorities that Valdes demcval appeared to be startled
Speaker 2: by what was in the bag, but when he asked
Speaker 2: if for his money back, she claimed she couldn't do it.
Speaker 2: Quote due to her state of mind. Close quote your ruse.
Speaker 1: Your cunning attempt to trick me, Well play. John.
Speaker 2: Valdez de Miguel then allegedly assured the man that his
Speaker 2: money would be returned the next day. Reports import the
Speaker 2: state of the man made multiple attempts to contact her
Speaker 2: by following the encounter, but that she refused to return
Speaker 2: the money, shocking literally no one quarter of the report.
Speaker 2: She asserted that she asserted that the funds were part
Speaker 2: of a ritual and could not be released until the
Speaker 2: candles extinguished on their own, despite having previously assured the
Speaker 2: victim that his money be returned the same day, no
Speaker 2: explanation about which candles. On Monday, Valdiz demcgal taking it
Speaker 2: to custody. Officers gave her the opportunity to return the money,
Speaker 2: but she denied knowing the man. Report said that she
Speaker 2: also resisted being taken into custody and use a fake name.
Speaker 2: During the arrest, investigators also told that they had discovered
Speaker 2: valdisde Miguel had three warrants in separate theft cases. Appeared
Speaker 2: before a judge who set her bond at fifty five
Speaker 2: hundred dollars. According to Judge Mindy Glazer in a statement, okay,
Speaker 2: I had a chance to review this very interesting affidavit,
Speaker 2: which also makes one realize you should never respond to
Speaker 2: a flyer left on your vehicle for Tarot card readings
Speaker 2: because you don't know what's going to happen, especially when
Speaker 2: you're asking to bring three thousand dollars in cash put
Speaker 2: the money in a bag with some eggs. This is bizarre.
Speaker 2: That will be judgment y Glazer stating the obvious. Or
Speaker 2: you could just not go to Tarot card readings. Hey, Sean,
Speaker 2: you got twenty bucks, I'll do a Tarrort card reading
Speaker 2: for you, all right? Five fifty six, fifty five Gara
Speaker 2: CD talk stations stick around, play to talk about coming up,
Speaker 2: or you can feel free to call it love to
Speaker 2: hear from me either way. Right back after the news,
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Speaker 2: it so look forward to seven oh five, the return
Speaker 2: of Peter Bronson in studio incomparable author, writer and publisher.
Speaker 1: He is chilidog press dot com.
Speaker 2: If we want to try to get your book published,
Speaker 2: he wrote the I guess, like what I guess? Joe
Speaker 2: Strecker referred to it, and many did. They defendit A
Speaker 2: book on the sense of Natty Riots. Tomorrow the twenty
Speaker 2: first anniversary of the Cincinni Riots, and Peter wrote a
Speaker 2: book about it, Behind the Lines, The Untold Story of
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Riots. We'll talk about that, his analysis, his
Speaker 2: reflections on it. You know how far have we come
Speaker 2: and we kind of we made improvements and also I'm
Speaker 2: sure we have more to talk about. Peter's just a
Speaker 2: really just brilliant and interesting guy, great conversationalist is So
Speaker 2: I'm going to enjoy that hour and I'm sure you
Speaker 2: will too if you can hang out for it. It
Speaker 2: is Tuesday, so we do the inside scoop with Bright
Speaker 2: Barton News. Today, London beer chief Oliver Lane returns. He's
Speaker 2: doing an empower You seminar tonight seven pm empower Youamerica
Speaker 2: dot Org. I believe it is a log in from
Speaker 2: home only class because think he's in London anyway. The
Speaker 2: topic he'll be talking about tonight and what he'll be
Speaker 2: talking about today at eight oh five what's happening in
Speaker 2: Europe and what it means to us. Daniel Davis Deep
Speaker 2: Dive every Tuesday at eight thirty with retired lieutenant colonel
Speaker 2: and I'm sure he'll give us a thoughtful analysis an
Speaker 2: update of what's going on between Russia and Ukraine. Although
Speaker 2: I don't know specifically, since Strecker's not in what Daniel
Speaker 2: Davis specifically wants to talk about. I'm well to roll
Speaker 2: with the punches with Daniel. He's brilliant guy. I always
Speaker 2: enjoyed those conversations. Care see cares today, ohc my cancer doctors,
Speaker 2: Doctor jose Shannas, you'll be in studio talking about head
Speaker 2: and neck cancer. And of course, and thank you all
Speaker 2: the listeners for the prayers. Since I'm getting my CT
Speaker 2: scan today, it's really hanging over my head, and honestly,
Speaker 2: I don't expect, you know, good news, or I don't
Speaker 2: expect like a reversal or like I'm going into remission
Speaker 2: since the last one. But you know, I'm just hoping
Speaker 2: my dietary changes might have had an effect. But as
Speaker 2: I mentioned before, it doesn't matter. I talked about my
Speaker 2: dietary changes and getting rid of sugar and really really
Speaker 2: reducing my carbs, and it resulted in, you know, seventeen
Speaker 2: pound weight loss. I'm kind of stuck at seventeen. But
Speaker 2: I only say it out loud because you might consider
Speaker 2: that path given RFK Junior in all the talk about
Speaker 2: trying to improve the diet and health of America. I
Speaker 2: just feel better. So, you know, maybe my cancer has grown,
Speaker 2: maybe my lymph nodes are bigger. I'll have to go
Speaker 2: maybe get more cancer treatments. From OHC. If that's the
Speaker 2: hand that I've been dealt, that is the path that
Speaker 2: I'll go down. But doesn't change the fact that it
Speaker 2: feel better as a consequence of my dietary changes. So
Speaker 2: if you're feeling lethargic, you have you don't have any energy,
Speaker 2: You're always feeling run down, and you might well consider
Speaker 2: what you're putting in your body.
Speaker 1: Just a thought.
Speaker 2: I do care, and I'm going to turn to a
Speaker 2: list of friendly op ed because I think it's really
Speaker 2: it made some wonderful points, and it reminded me all
Speaker 2: the conversations I've had over the years with the associated
Speaker 2: builders and contractors and all the great earn while you
Speaker 2: learn trade programs that are out there, plumbers, electricians, h fact,
Speaker 2: they're just such a huge demand and these are good
Speaker 2: paying salaries. These are career opportunities. You don't need to
Speaker 2: go to college necessary. There are college degrees that are valuable,
Speaker 2: but there's a bunch of them that aren't worth the
Speaker 2: paper that they're printed on and you end up in debt.
Speaker 2: So with that in mind, it's one of the reasons
Speaker 2: I wanted to read her off that piece today because
Speaker 2: it makes some great points. So listen friendly rights. President
Speaker 2: Trumps proclaims his tariffs will bring manufacturing jobs back to
Speaker 2: the US. Good luck finding workers to fill them. A
Speaker 2: common lament among employers, especially manufacturers, is they can't find reliable,
Speaker 2: conscientious workers who can pass a drug test. Single women
Speaker 2: might commiserate. A good worker, like a good man, can
Speaker 2: be hard to find these days. That's a two way street, though,
Speaker 2: Alyssa I will point out blame government, which showers benefits
Speaker 2: on able bodied people who don't work, while at the
Speaker 2: same time subsidizing college degrees that don't lead to productive employment.
Speaker 2: The result is millions of idle men and millions of
Speaker 2: unfilled jobs, what an economist would call a dead weight
Speaker 2: loss to society. All business owners in March reported job
Speaker 2: openings they couldn't fill, with larger shares in construction fifty
Speaker 2: six percent, transportation fifty three percent, and manufacturing forty seven percent.
Speaker 2: That's according to last week's National Federation of Independent Business Survey.
Speaker 2: The Labor Department's Job Openings and Labor Turnover survey of
Speaker 2: businesses tells a similar story. There are twice as many
Speaker 2: job openings in manufacturing than in the mid two thousands,
Speaker 2: as a share of employment, save for during the pandemic,
Speaker 2: American worker shortage is the worst in fifty years. Decades ago, productivity,
Speaker 2: enhancing technology and yes, inexpensive imports caused men who worked
Speaker 2: on shop floors to lose their jobs and drop out
Speaker 2: of the workforce. But this generation is sailing into the
Speaker 2: sunset and there are many fewer young Americans who want
Speaker 2: to work in factories. The labor force participation rate among
Speaker 2: working age men is now about five points lower percentage
Speaker 2: points lower than in the early nineteen eighties. Consequently, they
Speaker 2: are about three point five million fewer men between the
Speaker 2: ages of twenty five and fifty four in the workforce
Speaker 2: and one point three million between the ages of twenty
Speaker 2: five and thirty four then there would have been were
Speaker 2: it not for this decline. Labor participation among working age women,
Speaker 2: on the other hand, recently hit a record in part
Speaker 2: because they are having fewer children, which is related to
Speaker 2: their difficulties and finding sustainable, suitable mates, and I think
Speaker 2: their unwillingness to even consider marriage, I might interject because
Speaker 2: of career at the risk of stereotyping, women are more
Speaker 2: inclined toward quote unquote helping professions such as services than
Speaker 2: those that require physical labor. So where have all the
Speaker 2: good working men gone? Some are subsisting on government benefits
Speaker 2: or living off their parents. About seventeen percent of working
Speaker 2: age men are on Medicaid, seven point four percent on
Speaker 2: food stamps, six point three percent on Social Security, many
Speaker 2: claiming disability payouts, according to the Census Bureau. Many spend
Speaker 2: their days playing video games and day trading friends. And
Speaker 2: they've seen young men on dating apps claim to be
Speaker 2: working as self employed traders, financial bloggers, and even quote
Speaker 2: retired financial a retired financial engineer close quote apparent euphemisms
Speaker 2: for Robin hood brows. That's also quote who speculate on
Speaker 2: stocks and share tips on Reddit. When stocks were booming,
Speaker 2: many didn't have to work in the traditional sense. After
Speaker 2: last week's plunge, they might. Other missing men are taking
Speaker 2: longer to finish college or are pursuing graduate degrees. Only
Speaker 2: about forty one percent of men complete a bachelor's degree
Speaker 2: in four years, and about a quarter take more than six.
Speaker 2: Reminds me of that line from Bluto and Animal House,
Speaker 2: seven years of college down the drain. Many high paying
Speaker 2: vocations don't require college degrees, but government subsidies and public
Speaker 2: k through twelve schools. Nonetheless, steer high school students to
Speaker 2: that track. Federal student loans won't pay for apprenticeships, but
Speaker 2: they will cover the cost, including living expenses, of worthless
Speaker 2: graduate degrees in community organizing, creative writing, tourism, dance, and more.
Speaker 2: Rarely does one need an advanced degree to enter such fields,
Speaker 2: but colleges have convinced Americans that they do as a
Speaker 2: means of raking in more federal dollars. Many millennials and
Speaker 2: Gen z Zoomers struggle to find jobs in their chosen
Speaker 2: fields of study and don't want to work in others
Speaker 2: or in jobs they view as beneath them, so some
Speaker 2: simply don't work. Consider the unemployment rate among recent college
Speaker 2: grads with a sociology degree is six point seven percent,
Speaker 2: and their median wage is forty five thousand dollars a
Speaker 2: cord to the New York Federal Reserve Bank, sociology grads
Speaker 2: could earn twice as much working on an auto assembly line,
Speaker 2: which pays on average one hundred thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 2: Good gig, but not many wanted. The reality is that
Speaker 2: masses of young people who have been taught that capitalism
Speaker 2: is exploitative, don't want to work in factories. They'd rather
Speaker 2: mooch off taxpayers or their parents. Still, many men who
Speaker 2: don't go to college also don't want to work in
Speaker 2: factories or other blue collar occupations, perhaps because they don't
Speaker 2: believe there's dignity in such jobs. Only thirty one percent
Speaker 2: of blue collar workers feel that their type of work
Speaker 2: is respected, according to a Pew Research Center survey that
Speaker 2: came out last week. Any wonder when politicians and both
Speaker 2: parties proclaim such workers are exploited. There's dignity in any work,
Speaker 2: a message that deserves to be emphasized by the President
Speaker 2: and i'd say all elected officials. The client and work
Speaker 2: among young men is a far bigger problem for the
Speaker 2: nation's economic and cultural vitality than the decline in manufacturing jobs,
Speaker 2: and it can't and won't be solved with tariffs. That
Speaker 2: thinks she makes some great points. You know I'm on record.
Speaker 2: You know I've I mentioned many times. I think of
Speaker 2: the garbage collectors that come and take away my garbage,
Speaker 2: and God bless each and every one of you, hard working,
Speaker 2: mostly men, although I'm sure there are some female garbage collectors.
Speaker 2: I have a tremendous amount of respect for those folks
Speaker 2: getting up and going out every day for a job
Speaker 2: that so many people are willing to demean.
Speaker 1: What do you want to be a gavage collector? Yeah,
Speaker 1: how about it?
Speaker 2: You can make a decent wage something society desperately needs,
Speaker 2: because what would the place look like without them working
Speaker 2: every day? And the same thing goes across the board.
Speaker 2: I've always been very critical of people say that, you know,
Speaker 2: you went fries with that demean folks that choose to
Speaker 2: work in fast food. That was the original first job
Speaker 2: for most high school kids. Not that I think it
Speaker 2: should be your permanent life job, but you know, you
Speaker 2: can work up and be a manager of one of
Speaker 2: those and make a decent, respectable career out of it.
Speaker 2: Work is its own reward, and we should be supportive
Speaker 2: of people who are willing to get up every day
Speaker 2: and go do some hard work. And you know that
Speaker 2: that term the jobs Americans won't do that is such
Speaker 2: a disgusting concept. What do you mean the jobs Americans
Speaker 2: won't do well because you're from some different country that
Speaker 2: makes that job? Here, you take that job. We're Americans,
Speaker 2: We're not going to do it. Where did that attitude
Speaker 2: come from whatever happened to the American work ethic? What
Speaker 2: are happened at being respectable? And you know saying, listen,
Speaker 2: I'm going to go out and find employment rather than
Speaker 2: get on the public doll because I'm not going to
Speaker 2: move off my fellow man when I'm capable. That's why
Speaker 2: I appreciate the work require. If you're going to get
Speaker 2: on snap benefits, at least put twenty hours a week
Speaker 2: in with some free job training. And that applies to
Speaker 2: people who are able by it. If you're disabled, that's
Speaker 2: a different story. It's a different analysis and should be
Speaker 2: a different set of factors that applies to it. But
Speaker 2: if you're twenty five years old, you are capable, you're
Speaker 2: physically able, you're able to get up out of bed
Speaker 2: in the morning rather than watching video games. Why not
Speaker 2: take advantage of a career opportunity. Get one of these
Speaker 2: union programs, or you can be an apprentice and make
Speaker 2: money while you learn a trade, and then you can
Speaker 2: become free and independent, pay taxes and then complain about
Speaker 2: the taxes you're paying because oh, look, you're promoting fruit
Speaker 2: juice in Africa or something. I got some interesting dogs
Speaker 2: figures that have come out. They further reflect the insanity
Speaker 2: of where your taxpayer dollars are going. Join in the fund,
Speaker 2: learn to complain about the American taxpayers dollars being misspent
Speaker 2: by corrupt government officials. But unless you're work and paying
Speaker 2: taxes into the federal system or state systems best, you
Speaker 2: don't have any incentive to complain about it or care
Speaker 2: about it. You may feel differently, You can feel free
Speaker 2: to call in the meantime six twenty two if you
Speaker 2: have care City talk station, Happy Tuesdays, all right, speaking
Speaker 2: of paying taxes and being upset and what your money's
Speaker 2: going to be spent on, and everyone should be. This
Speaker 2: is why I appreciate what the Department of Government Efficiency
Speaker 2: is doing in spite of the screening, whaling and gnashing
Speaker 2: of teeth on a bunch of people who don't appreciate
Speaker 2: the fact that our money is being wasted and colossally so.
Speaker 2: Box nineteen provided the info on this one. Apparently the
Speaker 2: Department of Government Efficiency announced fifty one and I know
Speaker 2: it's million dollars.
Speaker 1: I know it's a paltry amount.
Speaker 2: But this is just an accumulated sum over time, every
Speaker 2: little dollar every year, if you mind the pennies of
Speaker 2: dollars mind themselves. Well, if you mind the millions, the
Speaker 2: billions end up mining themselves. So let's start with fifty
Speaker 2: one million dollars in cuts to something called the US
Speaker 2: African Development Foundation, an announcement on X here's what they
Speaker 2: told us about and these were canceled. So two just
Speaker 2: under twourre and thirty thousand dollars used to market one
Speaker 2: hundred percent organic shade butter in Burkina Fasso, Just under
Speaker 2: twohundred and fifty thousand dollars spent on mango drying facilities
Speaker 2: in the Ivory Coast. Just under two and forty thousand
Speaker 2: dollars spent on marketing pineapple juice in benin African Country
Speaker 2: or African Countries and Cities. Department also said about one
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars spent to increase yogurt production in Uganda,
Speaker 2: just about eighty five thousand dollars spent on a business
Speaker 2: incubator for SPA and wellness entrepreneurs, and of all places
Speaker 2: in Nigeria, fifty grand spent to train farmers on how
Speaker 2: to grow dragon fruit in Senegal, and forty eight little
Speaker 2: over forty eight thousand dollars spent on a What's App
Speaker 2: marketing chatbot in Kenya last month, THOUGHS previously shared that
Speaker 2: it determined one hundred and thirteen contracts valued at four
Speaker 2: point seven billion dollars, including a US Department of Agriculture
Speaker 2: consulting contract valued at one hundred and forty five thousand
Speaker 2: dollars for PERU climate change activities.
Speaker 1: Funding.
Speaker 2: Canceled also included ten million dollars for gender equity in
Speaker 2: the Mexican workplace twelve point two million for worker empowerment
Speaker 2: in South America. That would cracked me up too, because
Speaker 2: South America is a continent, and I could quickly find
Speaker 2: the figure with a quick search engine search. But I'm
Speaker 2: gonna say, there's millions and millions and millions of people
Speaker 2: in South America. Twelve point two million for worker empowerment
Speaker 2: in South America. How far do you think that money
Speaker 2: actually goes? And how much worker empowerment can you bring
Speaker 2: about in South America with twelve point two million dollars
Speaker 2: Considering it's a continent full of people. You know, there's
Speaker 2: some lucky so and so down there that's now sitting
Speaker 2: on twelve point two million dollars. Actually this was canceled thankfully,
Speaker 2: but would have been sitting on twelve point two million
Speaker 2: dollars in his or her bank account because I don't
Speaker 2: know their friends with somebody connected with the United States government,
Speaker 2: and probably a share of that money would have been
Speaker 2: kicked back to someone here in the United States, probably
Speaker 2: in the greater Washington, DC area, to fund some sort
Speaker 2: of political organization or otherwise land in the pocket of
Speaker 2: some politician. Do I know this for a fact? No,
Speaker 2: not yet, but wait for it. If you give them
Speaker 2: enough time, maybe they'll follow the money. And somebody's screaming
Speaker 2: out in the park on Saturday justifying all of this
Speaker 2: and saying none of this should be cut because Elon
Speaker 2: Musk is evil, and about fifty five percent of left
Speaker 2: to say that he should be killed, or at least
Speaker 2: lean toward the notion that he should be murdered, according
Speaker 2: to that study that I started the morning show out with. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because of this, Eric, hang on, if you don't mind
Speaker 2: out of time in this segment, I'd love to hear
Speaker 2: from you.
Speaker 1: And if you don't mind holding for a moment.
Speaker 2: It is just I six thirty two fifty five krc
Speaker 2: DE talk station go straight to the phones. I promised Eric,
Speaker 2: I take his call right out of the gate and
Speaker 2: fulfilling my promise. Eric, thanks for holding over the break
Speaker 2: of Welcome to the Morning Show.
Speaker 6: Marian Brian, just out here on my way to work
Speaker 6: so I can keep paying taxes and wonder where they're all.
Speaker 1: Going mango dehydration in Africa.
Speaker 6: There that I want to take just a bit of exception.
Speaker 6: I really do wish we would stop talking about poultry
Speaker 6: thumbs of millions of dollars, because I would love to
Speaker 6: have a poultry sum in my bank account. I don't
Speaker 6: know about you.
Speaker 2: You're not politically connected, Eric, You're not. You're not part
Speaker 2: of this system.
Speaker 6: You need to work for some n g O name
Speaker 6: isn't Soros or Biden? What the heck are you talking about?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: Well, their money, their money does trickle down to uh,
Speaker 2: those that are well connected, you know.
Speaker 6: I mean you mean, you mean the people that were
Speaker 6: in the park screaming and shouting.
Speaker 2: Sorry anyway, well, one hundred dollars, one hundred dollars a
Speaker 2: trip or whatever. You know, if you if you're not
Speaker 2: working for a living and someone's willing to hand you
Speaker 2: one hundred dollars for a couple hours of labor, I
Speaker 2: suspect you might take it.
Speaker 6: What's my labor?
Speaker 1: Go out and scream, Okay, I got it. There you are.
Speaker 2: Everyone has that skill set. You don't need a four
Speaker 2: year college degree to yell, although there are a lot
Speaker 2: of people that go to college for four years maybe
Speaker 2: six years to learn how to yell and protest. I
Speaker 2: have a great day for calling brother. There's so much
Speaker 2: truth in comedy, isn't there? All right, let's get a
Speaker 2: local story in here. Man accused letting his dogs attack
Speaker 2: since a police officers and indicted by a grand jury yesterday,
Speaker 2: Hamilton County Prosecutor's officer said twenty six year old Daryl
Speaker 2: stoweres indicted on one felonious assault charge, as well as
Speaker 2: two additional misdemeanor charges of assault and resisting arrest. According
Speaker 2: to police, March twenty ninth, they showed up be at
Speaker 2: one hundred Craft Street one o'clock in the morning after
Speaker 2: reports that someone had fired shots. When police got there,
Speaker 2: a woman told them that Stowers had hit her with
Speaker 2: a gun and during an argument over an issue in
Speaker 2: the neighborhood. Police say the woman had injuries to her
Speaker 2: ear When police officers attempted to arrest Stowers. They said
Speaker 2: he ran into his house and then released three of
Speaker 2: his dogs. According to the reporting, Stowers did this intentionally
Speaker 2: so that the dogs would attack the police officers. Since
Speaker 2: police say one of the authors managed to tackle Stowers
Speaker 2: got bit on the calf by one of the dogs,
Speaker 2: he remains in the Hamilton County Detention Center in a
Speaker 2: twenty five thousand dollars bond must not have been in
Speaker 2: front of Judge Silverstein. Man who was found dead along
Speaker 2: the riverbank and Butler said, According to the spokesperson for
Speaker 2: the Pendal County Emergency Management, Rob Broun, Man found Monday
Speaker 2: four pm at the end of Maider Street near Butler Bridge.
Speaker 2: Kentucky State Police said they received a call about a
Speaker 2: possible drowning after someone reported seeing a body wearing a
Speaker 2: life jacket in floodwaters. Pendleton County Search and Rescue team
Speaker 2: recovered the body of sixty six year old Robert Singleton
Speaker 2: from Butler. Officials also found Singleton's canoe and what they
Speaker 2: believe is his truck. According to bron Singleton was a
Speaker 2: member of the Lions Club and a lifelong environmentalist, and
Speaker 2: a quote he said he had a heart for making
Speaker 2: Pendleton County. Look good, Butler one of two cities in
Speaker 2: Penalton County that had a mandatory evacuation order lifted yesterday.
Speaker 2: Resident must show proof of residence before they're allowed to
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Speaker 2: Looking forward to the period after the Top of the
Speaker 2: Air News Full Hour with Peter Bronson in studio. You
Speaker 2: are the twenty fourth anniversary of the Cincinnati Riots, who
Speaker 2: wrote a book about it, Behind the Lines, The Untold
Speaker 2: Story of the Cincinnati Riots. And I'm sure Peter and
Speaker 2: I will have much more to talk about beyond that.
Speaker 2: But great man, he is very interesting and I'm sure
Speaker 2: you'll enjoy the conversation. Let us jump over to the
Speaker 2: phone before I move on. Mike's on the line five
Speaker 2: on three seven four nine fifty five hundred eight hundred
Speaker 2: eight two three talk Mike, thanks for calling this morning.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show.
Speaker 8: A Brian.
Speaker 9: I've called about the flooding and way the news is
Speaker 9: covering it like it's that river, like the Ohio River's
Speaker 9: never flooded before. It's like, this is like the weather.
Speaker 9: You're like, oh, this is horrible. I'm like it floods
Speaker 9: at least every two or three years. We get the
Speaker 9: baths of flooding.
Speaker 2: Down there, sometimes more than others. And this is a pretty.
Speaker 9: Substantial happened probably about ten years or so.
Speaker 1: Right right now, I saw a new Richmond, which.
Speaker 9: We'll probably get three or four years of flooding because
Speaker 9: it's the reciprocal cycle.
Speaker 2: So yeah, there is a cycle, and that's why we have,
Speaker 2: you know, one hundred year floods and five hundred year floods,
Speaker 2: and yeah, we we all know the weather changes and
Speaker 2: it's an ever changing reality, which is one of the
Speaker 2: reasons why I don't believe that you, you and I
Speaker 2: are responsible for this moment in times flooding as opposed
Speaker 2: to all of the other multitude of times the Ohio
Speaker 2: River has gone over its banks. That doesn't mean that
Speaker 2: I'm not feeling sorry for a lot of the neighborhoods
Speaker 2: who are underwater right now. I saw New Richmond hasn't
Speaker 2: seen it this high since well the last ten years.
Speaker 2: But if I know anybody who's been done in New Richmond,
Speaker 2: they have that flood gauge, that big tower that sticks
Speaker 2: up out of the water, and you can see where
Speaker 2: the highest flood was, and it's you know, if you
Speaker 2: sit there and you contemplate how much water has to
Speaker 2: accumulate to get up that high. You know, both sides
Speaker 2: of the river are going up, and it's filling and
Speaker 2: filling trillions and trillions of additional gallons of water, and
Speaker 2: it's like, oh my lord. Now, I guess some of
Speaker 2: that might have happened before we had locks and floodgates
Speaker 2: and the like, but.
Speaker 1: Geez, it's just it's it's crazy.
Speaker 2: But thoughts in prayers out to everybody who's dealing with that,
Speaker 2: and again, to the extent you want to charitably contribute
Speaker 2: and to help people out in need, whether it's these floods,
Speaker 2: the floods that we're experiencing elsewhere in the United States,
Speaker 2: a lot of people out there could use some assistance,
Speaker 2: and I will, as I always do, put a shout
Speaker 2: out to Matthew twenty five Ministries, not because I'm a
Speaker 2: member of what they do or anything, but if you
Speaker 2: want a donation dollar to go to those in need,
Speaker 2: then you give it to Matthew twenty five Ministries because
Speaker 2: a buck given is a buck moved over to the need.
Speaker 2: They don't have any overhead or minimalist overhead. It's a
Speaker 2: lot of volunteers working there.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: I always like to pick on a United Way because
Speaker 2: they have a massive overhead, paid salaries, paid position. So
Speaker 2: I don't know what the return on your charitable investment
Speaker 2: is when it goes there or other organizations. Not to
Speaker 2: be critical that they're saying they're not helping people, but
Speaker 2: the bang for the buck, from what I've learned over
Speaker 2: the years, Matthew twenty five is the place to go.
Speaker 2: So I haven't been to their website to know if
Speaker 2: they're you know, gathering money, resources, donations and the like
Speaker 2: for flood victims here and elsewhere, but clearly we have
Speaker 2: been inundated of late.
Speaker 1: Let's see, but a bum oh, just real quick here.
Speaker 2: The House is apparently going to be They had some
Speaker 2: hold up, some disagreements in the House representatives. Houses poised
Speaker 2: to vote this week on the Safeguarding American voter eligibility,
Speaker 2: the SAVE Act. That's one sponsored by Representative Chip Roy
Speaker 2: at Texas, which requires proof of citizenship in the voter
Speaker 2: registration process. Other bills being advanced the No Rogue Rulings
Speaker 2: Act by a Representative darryl Isa, he's the primary sponsor,
Speaker 2: which will limit district judges ability to issue orders blocking
Speaker 2: policies nationwide. That's been a problem that's been percolating around
Speaker 2: for a very long time. You get one district court
Speaker 2: judge in one district that imposes an injunction that takes
Speaker 2: effect nationwide, and some believe that is something that is
Speaker 2: beyond what the jurisdiction of one district court could be.
Speaker 2: Both were expected to get a vote last week, but
Speaker 2: there was some sort of standoff in the House over
Speaker 2: a procedural thing. But they've got that ironed out, so
Speaker 2: we'll find out if there's Republican unity as it relates
Speaker 2: to these two. That means the House will vote on it,
Speaker 2: but then it goes to the Senate, where you've got
Speaker 2: a bit of an uphill challenge there because it requires
Speaker 2: sixty votes. Six forty five fifty five KRSD talk station imaging.
Speaker 2: I'm going to get affordable imaging today right after the
Speaker 2: show has six fifty one a fifty five KRSD talk station.
Speaker 2: A very happy Tuesday, pay extra special for me. I
Speaker 2: love talking with Peter Bronson. He'll be in studio in
Speaker 2: the next hour. Uh, just going over the aftermath of
Speaker 2: the April ninth anniverts, the anniversary of since any riots.
Speaker 2: So a lot happened then and a lot has gone
Speaker 2: on since then. So we'll see if what Peter's impression
Speaker 2: is of the then versus now. Also, I'm sure we'll
Speaker 2: go over other topics with Peter. Anyway, Supreme Court handed
Speaker 2: down an aureo, say five to four. A lot of
Speaker 2: squeaker decisions around there, but they lifted the judges order
Speaker 2: that prevented the deportation of suspected Venezuelan gang members to
Speaker 2: that SALVADORI in prison, allowing the Trump administration request expedited
Speaker 2: removals under the eighteenth century law Alien Enemies Act, but
Speaker 2: due process is required. The Court said that detainees were
Speaker 2: entitled to notice that they were being removed under the
Speaker 2: Alien Enemies Act, as well as an opportunity to challenge
Speaker 2: a deportation before a federal judge in Texas near the
Speaker 2: immigration lockup where they've been held, as opposed to shipping
Speaker 2: them off to some choice jurisdiction at the Aco.
Speaker 1: You would run. Now that covers the basis is it
Speaker 1: lawful to assert the Alien Enemies Act? Apparently five to
Speaker 1: four says yes. But the Constitution requires some due process.
Speaker 1: You can't just say.
Speaker 2: Someone is an illegal member of a gang without giving
Speaker 2: them an opportunity to be heard in court. That's really
Speaker 2: the point that Judge Dapolitanum made last week and got
Speaker 2: so many people really angry. It's like, oh, but you know,
Speaker 2: we do have a constitution. So the court's order required
Speaker 2: more than the government provided the Venezuelans. On March fifteenth,
Speaker 2: that's the day they published Trump's proclamation invoking the Act
Speaker 2: and then immediately began flying some of those migrants to
Speaker 2: El Salvador's Terrorism confinement Center. Migrants were not told their
Speaker 2: destination or given an opportunity to seek legal assistance before
Speaker 2: being taken to l Salvador. Majority will be Chief Justice
Speaker 2: John Roberts, Clarence Thomas, Samlito, Neil Gorsich, and Brett Kavanaugh
Speaker 2: strussed that the only issue was the place in legal
Speaker 2: avenue for migrants to challenge their enemy's act removal through
Speaker 2: the constitutional process of habeas corpus in the district where
Speaker 2: they have been held, rather than in Washington, where the ACLU,
Speaker 2: representing a group of Venezuelans, filed the lawsuit. The majority
Speaker 2: said that for all the rhetoric of the descents, its
Speaker 2: decision was a technical one. Detainees, in their words, are
Speaker 2: entitled to notice and an opportunity to challenge the removal.
Speaker 2: The only question is well which court to resolve the
Speaker 2: challenge an ACLU turney representing the migrants. So the ruling
Speaker 2: means we will need to start the court process over
Speaker 2: again at a different venue. But the critical point is
Speaker 2: that the Supreme Court said individual individuals must be given
Speaker 2: due process to challenge the removal under the Alien Enemies Act.
Speaker 1: That's a huge victory.
Speaker 2: Well, it's also and you know, my estimation merely supporting
Speaker 2: the constitutional reality. You can't just go to someone's house,
Speaker 2: grab them, put them on a plane and send them
Speaker 2: out of the country. As bad as these people may
Speaker 2: ultimately be, if they're that bad, you can prove in
Speaker 2: the court of law. I think that's important. I mean,
Speaker 2: that'd be your little well libertarian in me defending the
Speaker 2: Constitution everything that it says and stands for in spite
Speaker 2: of the stumbling blocks it quite often places. You know,
Speaker 2: political expedience isn't exactly the greatest thing, and that's how
Speaker 2: you end up with imperial presidencies. When you have a
Speaker 2: do nothing Congress that refuses to act, you end up
Speaker 2: with presidents who pull out their phone and their pen.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Barack Obama for setting the president and go
Speaker 2: ahead and do what they want. This particular case, Donald
Speaker 2: Trump pulled out his pen said Alien Enemies Act applies.
Speaker 2: Was that okay according to the Supreme Court. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: it doesn't eviscerate or eradicate the due process that the
Speaker 2: Constitution requires and calls for. So I think I call
Speaker 2: this basically an overall win. So let them argue in court,
Speaker 2: and then, if I was a betting man, watch them
Speaker 2: be placed on a plane and flow them down to
Speaker 2: El Salvador. Peter Brownson up after the top of the
Speaker 2: air news hip. You can stick around for that and
Speaker 2: inside Scoop with Bright Barton News London bureau chief Oliver Lane.
Speaker 2: He's doing to empower you sevenar tonight seven pm what
Speaker 2: is happening in Europe and what it means for us?
Speaker 2: Plus the Daniel Davis Deep Dive, and we're going to
Speaker 2: learn about head and neck cancer from ohc's doctor Joseph Shaughnessy.
Speaker 2: He'll be on at the tail end of the program
Speaker 2: in the eight o'clock hour. I sure hope you can
Speaker 2: stick around seven oh five at fifty five ker CD
Speaker 2: talk station. A very happy Tuesday. I hope you're as
Speaker 2: happy as I am. And it's Tuesday because Peter Bronson
Speaker 2: is in studio. Of course author, he is a publisher.
Speaker 2: Chili Dog Press dot COM's where you find his publishing
Speaker 2: company and maybe an opportunity to get your book if
Speaker 2: you're someone in the listening audience that's interested in publishing.
Speaker 1: Does a wonderful job.
Speaker 2: He's also a terrific author, former columnist for The Cincinnian
Speaker 2: Inquiry and an award winning columnist back when the editorial
Speaker 2: page used to win awards. Things have changed over at
Speaker 2: the Inquire A little bit. I'm going to miss them
Speaker 2: too much. But Peter Bronson, you always did such a
Speaker 2: wonderful job. And I just got done asking you. Your
Speaker 2: very very first book was a compilation of your columns.
Speaker 10: Yes, that was called Cincinnati for Peace for Pete's Sake.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you segued over and actually your first
Speaker 2: book book, and it's a book. It's work of nonfiction,
Speaker 2: of course, behind the lines the untold stories plural of
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati riots. And believe it or not, it has
Speaker 2: been twenty four years. Tomorrow's the anniversary of the outset
Speaker 2: of the Cincinnati riots. It took place, and you know,
Speaker 2: maybe people don't remember these specific facts, and I will
Speaker 2: fall into that category. I remember sort of about them
Speaker 2: when they happened. It led to that consent decree that
Speaker 2: got worked down. Yeah, yeah, we'll get some details.
Speaker 10: Consultants that flew in like vultures to feed on Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but what kicked it off? What was the
Speaker 2: impetus for all this? Like George Floyd. Everybody remembers George
Speaker 2: Floyd and dam and BLM and defund the police and everything.
Speaker 1: This was sort of a precursor to that type of reaction.
Speaker 10: It was this was the first major incident of its
Speaker 10: kind in ten years after the Rodney King incident, which
Speaker 10: goes back ten years previously. Right, So when you go
Speaker 10: all the way back to that, you can look at
Speaker 10: this pattern that occurred. And I have to say compliments
Speaker 10: to you for bringing this topic up again, because I
Speaker 10: would wager that very few, if any of the other
Speaker 10: media platforms in this city will even mention it today
Speaker 10: that this is all these twenty four years since this
Speaker 10: happened and it was a huge cataclysmic event in the
Speaker 10: history of our city.
Speaker 2: Well, that's why it's worthy of bringing up. I mean,
Speaker 2: did we learn lessons? Are things better now? I mean
Speaker 2: it's a point of a moment of reflection. That's why
Speaker 2: you think about anniversaryes. What's theal line if you don't
Speaker 2: learn from it, Yeah, repete it. So yeah, well, I
Speaker 2: just I remember reading about and my dad telling these
Speaker 2: stories about the sixties riots, the Watts riots. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: the National Guard had to be parked out in front
Speaker 2: of Detroit.
Speaker 10: They had tanks rolling down the streets of Detroit in
Speaker 10: nineteen sixty seven, and they had fifty caliber machine guns
Speaker 10: mounted on the tops of those tanks that were firing
Speaker 10: at rooftops in Detroit because there were snipers up there
Speaker 10: trying to kill the National Guard and the.
Speaker 2: Police see and can you believe that those are the
Speaker 2: facts that I was not aware of. Dad told me
Speaker 2: a story about locally, when these studios used to be
Speaker 2: at nineteen or six Highland Avenue, that they had to
Speaker 2: have a National Guard vehicle posted out there because they
Speaker 2: were concerned about maybe the studio is getting stormed or
Speaker 2: something along those lines. Because the television studios as well
Speaker 2: as the radio studios were all into that a WKRC moniker.
Speaker 2: So things are different now than they were then, But
Speaker 2: that's the one story remember back then. But we felt
Speaker 2: the effects of that eras riots as well.
Speaker 10: It was really bad in Avondale in sixty seven, but
Speaker 10: when you look at what happened in two thousand and
Speaker 10: one was certainly not as bad as those sixty seven riots.
Speaker 10: But it is such a template of what has occurred
Speaker 10: in all these cities since. What occurred in the Rodney kincase,
Speaker 10: what occurred in Ferguson, Missouri, what occurred in Baltimore with
Speaker 10: Freddie Gray, what occurred with you point George Floyd, but
Speaker 10: so many other cases, all of these patterns fit right
Speaker 10: back to Cincinnati in two thousand and one.
Speaker 1: How about that?
Speaker 2: And I think about somebody's gonna say scream with the
Speaker 2: radio and say, Thomas, you're full of it. But there
Speaker 2: seemed to have been in some cases, some of these cases,
Speaker 2: a gross mischaracterization of what happened and people's reaction immediately
Speaker 2: blaming the police, when you know, police were following the
Speaker 2: way they had been trained, and they didn't do anything
Speaker 2: necessarily untoward, but it led to bad outcomes, you know,
Speaker 2: the you know, I mean, you can't defend them literally
Speaker 2: beating the crap out of Rodney King. If you watch
Speaker 2: that video, it's like, I mean, come on.
Speaker 10: Well, except in my research, I was really surprised to
Speaker 10: find this in the Rodney King incident that when the
Speaker 10: jurors were shown the entire tape, ah, then they came
Speaker 10: up with the that kicked off the riots. So the
Speaker 10: tape that we saw on television was heavily edited to
Speaker 10: only show the police responding to him and his attacks.
Speaker 10: He refused to be subdued. The actual transcript of what
Speaker 10: happened is shocking. I mean, they tried everything. Now, did
Speaker 10: they go too far? Of course, yes, they did. Police
Speaker 10: are not inhuman when they're adrenaline gets pumping after a
Speaker 10: police chase. Right, They're just like you and me. They're
Speaker 10: capable of all kinds of.
Speaker 2: Things, especially if their safety is in jeopardy because the
Speaker 2: behavior of the purp in this particular tax Yeah, if
Speaker 2: he's attacked them, or you know, if they use a taser,
Speaker 2: if I don't even know if there's existed back then,
Speaker 2: but if the taser doesn't work and the guy continues
Speaker 2: to become aggressive, and they.
Speaker 10: Tried tasers, they tried everything short of firing their revolvers
Speaker 10: and killing him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, and.
Speaker 10: They did not do that. Now, if you mentioned that,
Speaker 10: the first and the initial reactions are often sort of
Speaker 10: a shoot ready aim, especially in the media, and this
Speaker 10: was especially true in Cincinnati. Now, the actual shooting occurred
Speaker 10: on April seventh. On April eighth, a young black men
Speaker 10: had been shot by a police officer. On April eighth,
Speaker 10: the headlines in the Cincinnati Enquirer and in the media
Speaker 10: throughout Cincinnati, but mainly in the Inquirer, included the words
Speaker 10: police brutality, no facts are in remember, police brutality, trigger
Speaker 10: happy and excessive force.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 10: This was absolutely just setting the table. And it reminded
Speaker 10: me when I was coming in this morning, Brian, that
Speaker 10: today our judgment, I respect, our esteem of the media
Speaker 10: is at a record low. It's at eleven percent feet
Speaker 10: But in these days, bringing up the idea that the
Speaker 10: media might be wrong, that they might be pushing an
Speaker 10: agenda was heresy. This was immediately suppressed or smothered by
Speaker 10: any platform of media because they just thought anybody would
Speaker 10: suggest bias was a tinfoil hat cook.
Speaker 2: Right sort of default to that, Well, this is obvious
Speaker 2: media bias that we wait around and find out what
Speaker 2: the real facts are down the road. Okay, So yeah,
Speaker 2: you have to remember context is everything. This is twenty
Speaker 2: four years ago, yes, and this is I guess that's
Speaker 2: before social media as well, very much.
Speaker 10: So you didn't have the drivers on this. One of
Speaker 10: the main drivers was WDBZ. If you remember the Black
Speaker 10: Ross Love station that was in Avondale, I think, yeah.
Speaker 10: I used to go up there for interviews from time
Speaker 10: to time and it was a wild, wild trip. But
Speaker 10: that's another story. But they just poured kerosene on this
Speaker 10: around the clock. Remember all of CPS schools were out
Speaker 10: for spring break, so there are all these kids hanging
Speaker 10: around with nothing to do, and the radio just kept
Speaker 10: pouring out this police brutality story. How they're out there
Speaker 10: killing young black men. Cincinnati police are hunting down and
Speaker 10: killing young black men.
Speaker 1: This is the story.
Speaker 10: They were broadcast and constantly, and our paper that where
Speaker 10: I was working at, the Inquirer, had done this. It
Speaker 10: was a prize package designed to win some kind of
Speaker 10: a pulitzer or something, you know, in their dreams, but
Speaker 10: the prize package was this long report that really massage
Speaker 10: the data to come up with this narrative of police
Speaker 10: brutality in Cincinnati. So this was like this incident was
Speaker 10: just kind of they're just waiting for the one to
Speaker 10: come along where this this whole thing can be well.
Speaker 2: As a journalist, then you come from the responsible factual
Speaker 2: reporting journalism era. You know, you don't draw conclusions, you
Speaker 2: don't jump the gun. Now, editorial pages are different, but
Speaker 2: when you're just doing general reporting, did you ever look
Speaker 2: into and in your research doing behind the lines the
Speaker 2: until it's sort of this insint right, what the motivations
Speaker 2: were for them doing that and painting such a salacious
Speaker 2: headline and such a well a headline was guaranteed to
Speaker 2: generate this kind of response.
Speaker 10: Well, it was a lot of things that combined and
Speaker 10: contributed to this, maybe a perfect storm of incendiary reporting
Speaker 10: that contributed to the violence. I would say part of
Speaker 10: it was ideological. The people that were being brought into
Speaker 10: the newsroom had this attitude. A lot of it was
Speaker 10: the Rodney King case, which everybody, let's face it, people
Speaker 10: in the news business, they like to follow the herd,
Speaker 10: the herd animals, and if somebody gets a lot of
Speaker 10: attention for a story, then all over the nation we're
Speaker 10: seeing these another Rodney King. Every confrontation between police and
Speaker 10: a black suspect. All over the nation, you'd see headlines
Speaker 10: another Rodney King without anything that necessarily matched up. So
Speaker 10: there's this whole kind of copycat.
Speaker 2: It's called clickbait now online, but back then it sells newspapers,
Speaker 2: Yes it did.
Speaker 10: And there's that. There's the whole prize. I get under
Speaker 10: that in the book. I was looking back at it
Speaker 10: this morning, and I get into that the whole prize,
Speaker 10: like every newspaper was kind of shameless in their pursuit
Speaker 10: of prizes, of whatever kind of prize they could get
Speaker 10: from the National Conference of investigative reporters, or it might
Speaker 10: be the Ohio Press Association, whatever it is. Pulletrer is
Speaker 10: of course the moby Dick, that's the holy Grail. But
Speaker 10: it was kind of I thought it was kind of
Speaker 10: shameful the way these packages were often designed with the
Speaker 10: prize committee in mind and not the readers or not
Speaker 10: the community.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll pause right now on the twenty fourth
Speaker 2: anniversary tomorrow of the East since Any Riots kickoff. Peter Bronson
Speaker 2: was there, and he saw it all and wrote the
Speaker 2: book about it, Behind the Lines, the un Told Story
Speaker 2: of the Cincinna Riots, which you can get, of course
Speaker 2: on Amazon. Widely received and big thumbs up on that book.
Speaker 2: Will continue in a moment, but if you wake up
Speaker 2: with joint pain and seven twenty here for five KRCD
Speaker 2: talk station by Thomas with Peter Bronson, author, publisher, former
Speaker 2: editor of the since An Inquirer, and of course a
Speaker 2: man who remembers all the facts behind the riots that
Speaker 2: started Cincinnati on April ninth, and as Peter explained, really
Speaker 2: kicked off and went ballistic when the Cincinni Inquirer posted
Speaker 2: the headlines that it was all you know, the rogue cop,
Speaker 2: there'll be a bad share, trigger happy.
Speaker 10: Police brutality excessive for us.
Speaker 2: But that was before any of the information had been
Speaker 2: looked into.
Speaker 1: There had been no internal investigation, and the.
Speaker 10: Police chief was out of town, so they didn't even
Speaker 10: have a press that was a striker right as it was,
Speaker 10: and he was at a conference in Indianapolis, and so
Speaker 10: he was shocked when he's driving home and and I
Speaker 10: think it was Vince Demasi was in charge me. He said,
Speaker 10: by the way.
Speaker 1: Next door events.
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, yeah, he said, by the way, chief.
Speaker 1: What So who is responding?
Speaker 2: Who is responsible for addressing the public right after it happened,
Speaker 2: because it's always, you know, at least a lieutenant on
Speaker 2: the scene, unless it's you know, really a chief level
Speaker 2: respond That would have been the case in this one
Speaker 2: had the chief Striker been in town exactly. So who
Speaker 2: had the laboring ore of dealing with the press and
Speaker 2: the immediate aftermath.
Speaker 10: Well, it probably should have been Demassi who would have
Speaker 10: checked in with Striker and said, how do you want
Speaker 10: to handle this? And Striker had said, I'll be back
Speaker 10: in two hours, right, and we will hold a press conference.
Speaker 10: They did discover that one of the keys to preventing
Speaker 10: this kind of outbreak of violence is to get everything
Speaker 10: out there in the public as fast as possible.
Speaker 1: Amen.
Speaker 10: If you got a guy that's involved in a confrontation
Speaker 10: with police and he was carrying a weapon, you want
Speaker 10: that weapon on the evening news, the morning news, any
Speaker 10: place you can show it, Okay, And that really does
Speaker 10: diffuse the whole well violence.
Speaker 2: It does, for it explains the justification for the shooting.
Speaker 2: I had a back and forth this morning. There was
Speaker 2: a recent police shooting and Hamilton County prosecutor said, no,
Speaker 2: the police were okay on this one. The facts are
Speaker 2: a little questionable and we're still sort of waiting for
Speaker 2: the full all the information to come out. But you
Speaker 2: have to provide the public with the information along the
Speaker 2: lines of, you know, police shootings are justified much in
Speaker 2: the same way I am entitled to defend myself with
Speaker 2: deadly force if I am faced with the eminent apprehension
Speaker 2: of grievous bodily harm or still death. And you know,
Speaker 2: for example, if I've been through the process of trying
Speaker 2: to command a person to you know, not resist and
Speaker 2: settle down, get on your knees, put your hands on
Speaker 2: your head, they stop doing that and they get aggressive
Speaker 2: toward me. Of course, face two now in modern policing
Speaker 2: is use your taser if possible, and if they continue
Speaker 2: to be aggressive and that doesn't work, and they continue
Speaker 2: to come out with you, most notably if they are are,
Speaker 2: then you have a legitimate justification for using deadly force.
Speaker 2: It all makes sense. It's like put yourself in the
Speaker 2: same damn position, you would have done it as well.
Speaker 2: Exactly now, in this particular case, what specifically happened, I
Speaker 2: think it's worthy that we go over ultimately what was
Speaker 2: concluded happened, how the confrontation started, and that what led
Speaker 2: to the deadly force.
Speaker 10: Well, you had this kid who was wanted on I
Speaker 10: think of his nineteen different warrants for mainly minor stuff
Speaker 10: like being out past curfew. He was an nor failure
Speaker 10: to appear again and again and again, so they spotted him.
Speaker 10: The officer officer Roach gets out of his squad car
Speaker 10: and goes around into an alley because they're going to
Speaker 10: head him off because they knew where he was running.
Speaker 10: As soon as he saw the police, he ran and
Speaker 10: the kid comes over around the corner and he's probably
Speaker 10: as far as we can tell, the best excellent is
Speaker 10: that he was pulling up his sweatpants or his jeans,
Speaker 10: and Roach thought he was going for a gun and
Speaker 10: fired and shot him, killed him. Beyond that, what really
Speaker 10: was another I don't know if you remember this, but
Speaker 10: there was a period when the refrain or the battle
Speaker 10: cry of the protesters riders was fifteen Black men killed fifteen.
Speaker 10: This went out nationally and was a major reason for
Speaker 10: the boycotts that really crippled Cincinnati for a while. And
Speaker 10: the fifteen Black men killed was came directly from that
Speaker 10: excessive force series in the Inquirer. And what I did
Speaker 10: is I circled back to say, Okay, who are these
Speaker 10: fifteen I can read you just a couple examples here
Speaker 10: very shortly. One of them was Daniel Williams, who flagged
Speaker 10: down Cincinnati police officer Kathleen Conway in nineteen ninety eight,
Speaker 10: slugged her in the face, and shot her four times
Speaker 10: in the legs and abdomen with a three fifty seven
Speaker 10: magnum Holy is he carjacked a police car?
Speaker 1: Okay, it's one of the.
Speaker 10: Fifteen victims of police brutality.
Speaker 1: Victim.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Another one is a new spin on victim isn't it. Really?
Speaker 10: You have Harry Price, who brutally raped a fifteen year
Speaker 10: old girl in nineteen ninety five, beheaded her with an
Speaker 10: axe and held off police for four hours, attacking them
Speaker 10: with a steak knife after being hit repeatedly with mace
Speaker 10: and stun guns. He was shot when he lunged at
Speaker 10: the police with a knife.
Speaker 2: All right, since in the interested time, we're gonna take
Speaker 2: a break, I mean, we get some more of those.
Speaker 2: But what you're suggesting is, in this reporting, this fifteen
Speaker 2: black man, the narrative that was presented that they were
Speaker 2: all innocent people who were not justifiably shot by the police. Yes,
Speaker 2: and the two you just read there just really kind
Speaker 2: of burst the bubble of that narrative, don't they.
Speaker 10: Yeah, all but about three were not even questionable.
Speaker 1: Let's pause.
Speaker 2: We'll bring back Peter Bronson in a moment for seven
Speaker 2: twenty nine. If you give out their CD talk station
Speaker 2: Times with Peter Bronson, author of many, many books, all
Speaker 2: worthy of reading. Just go to Amazon dot com and
Speaker 2: you find Peter Bronson's page and you can see all
Speaker 2: the Sin City and the other wonderful books he's written.
Speaker 2: They're just they're just really genuine page turners. And uh,
Speaker 2: that's one of the things I love about it. I'll
Speaker 2: put you in a category like a bill O'Reilly. Once
Speaker 2: you get going, Peter, you just can't put him down.
Speaker 2: And the fact that it's so local, we all have
Speaker 2: a connection with it. Yeah, you were mentioned, you know, like, uh,
Speaker 2: the Junkyard dog alligation. You know, Ken Lawson is in
Speaker 2: your book, and I actually went to law school with Ken.
Speaker 2: I think it was a year or two ahead. I mean,
Speaker 2: we know what a troubled problem in a difficult time
Speaker 2: he had with his you know, the drug issues and
Speaker 2: the I guess disbarment or whatever he went through. But
Speaker 2: he was integrally involved in this and maybe it was
Speaker 2: made a bit of a scene my gosh.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 10: But yet of all places the law in public safety, yeah,
Speaker 10: where it was completely lawless.
Speaker 2: And a riot broke out and or I broke out, Yeah,
Speaker 2: behind the lines, the untold stories of the since I
Speaker 2: riots the name of the book, so I imagine, you know,
Speaker 2: and at least again, going back twenty four years, we
Speaker 2: have evolved as a society, and I think in many
Speaker 2: cases for the better. You know, you know, a light
Speaker 2: has been exposed on some of the terrible problems that
Speaker 2: we've had with police departments. Yes there have been instances
Speaker 2: of racism. Yes there have been instances of brutality, and
Speaker 2: I think so one of the positive steps we've gone through,
Speaker 2: in spite of the fact that maybe none of this
Speaker 2: outrage in any given instances was justified, there was a
Speaker 2: percolating general anger between members of certain communities and the
Speaker 2: police department that was.
Speaker 1: Built in what we called the unrest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the unrest was there. Yes, everybody knew somebody who
Speaker 2: had been pulled over for they always say driving while black.
Speaker 2: You know, they're just hassling me and shaking me down.
Speaker 2: You know, my buddy Rudy was, you know, being clubbed
Speaker 2: over the police officer with PR twenty four that I
Speaker 2: know that kind of thing existed. So when a pretext
Speaker 2: comes along as inaccurate as the details were, as you
Speaker 2: talk about in your book, and as you pointed out
Speaker 2: this morning, it's like, Okay, the kindling's already there. It
Speaker 2: just takes a spark. And even if the spark is
Speaker 2: not the one that should have started it. And I'm
Speaker 2: not going to justify political or violence in the streets
Speaker 2: and the extent of the reaction. You can kind of
Speaker 2: understand on the level where it came from.
Speaker 10: Yes, and so much was done after during right after
Speaker 10: the riots, we had the can Commission, which was Cincinnati Action.
Speaker 10: Now it was largely ineffective. We had a federal consent
Speaker 10: decree that came in for about a year or more.
Speaker 10: We had federal monitors that were in the back pocket
Speaker 10: of every police officer looking over the shoulders of all
Speaker 10: the police brass. It drove Striker crazy because I couldn't
Speaker 10: do his job. And I think what changed was the
Speaker 10: police learned some things out of this, almost independent of
Speaker 10: the ten or fifteen million or whatever it was the
Speaker 10: city spent on all these consultants. A lot of these
Speaker 10: consultants just came here to shake the city down. And
Speaker 10: of course, yeah, it was crazy. Nothing's changed, nothing has changed.
Speaker 2: You need a non governmental organization and here taking a
Speaker 2: look at this, right, you know, five hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 2: a year working for an MNGO.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'll be happy to do the work.
Speaker 10: Well, yeah, what city elected official isn't glad to shift
Speaker 10: the blame and let somebody else take responsibility for something
Speaker 10: by giving them a million dollars. So, but the police
Speaker 10: learned some key lessons, which one of them we discussed
Speaker 10: was getting the weapons or any kind of evidence out
Speaker 10: there as soon as possible, get out in public, have
Speaker 10: a press conference, tell everybody what happened as much as
Speaker 10: you know, to correct these myths that are perpetrated by
Speaker 10: the media in many cases. The next thing they found out,
Speaker 10: which was very surprising, was a curfews work on the
Speaker 10: fourth day of violence when they were they had just
Speaker 10: experienced the worst day of violence on the eleventh, with
Speaker 10: people being dragged. An elderly couple was dragged out of
Speaker 10: the car and beaten severely. We had this happening pretty
Speaker 10: regularly in the streets, and the police and the mayor
Speaker 10: declared a curfew and it worked, and everybody's like, wow,
Speaker 10: that's kind of a surprise. People are burning down businesses,
Speaker 10: smashing windows, throwing rocks at the police. But you tell
Speaker 10: them that that, you know, eleven o'clock everything ends.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it worked. It's like parents know that
Speaker 2: about young people. Most of the problems occurved sort of
Speaker 2: after eleven pm. You start worrying about what your kids
Speaker 2: are up to.
Speaker 10: But there were a lot of lessons like that that
Speaker 10: were applied. But we went through a really bad period too,
Speaker 10: where the police they they layered on so many layers
Speaker 10: of review, of second guessing. For the cops, they had
Speaker 10: seven layers of oversight, so if they couldn't really do
Speaker 10: anything and they kind of backed off. They called it
Speaker 10: drive by policing, of.
Speaker 2: Course, and we saw that a lot of the aftermath
Speaker 2: of Black Lives Matter riots through it any't worth it.
Speaker 10: Yes, it was kind of a self defunding of the
Speaker 10: police without the defunding part. And it took about a
Speaker 10: year year and a half before Striker had a big
Speaker 10: meeting with all the cops and said, look, do your job,
Speaker 10: get back on the street and do your job, and
Speaker 10: I'll back you up one hundred percent. And I got
Speaker 10: a credit Mark Mallory too as the new marrior. He
Speaker 10: came in and said, look, I will play it fair,
Speaker 10: i will look at the evidence, and I'm not gonna
Speaker 10: throw kerosene on any fires unless i know there's something there.
Speaker 2: Well see, and I will call that responsible leadership. Because
Speaker 2: again moving over to the post, let's say George Floyd area,
Speaker 2: you had politicians that were joining in the ridicule of
Speaker 2: the police departments and not supporting them at all. And
Speaker 2: you know what that does the morale within a police department.
Speaker 2: You can't even get your elected officials on your side
Speaker 2: when your job is to try to keep the community safe.
Speaker 10: And it was terrible at Cincinnati City Hall. I mean,
Speaker 10: we had the Law and Public Safety Committee on April
Speaker 10: ninth was literally taken over. They were held hostage in
Speaker 10: that room by protesters who filled the entire room, stood
Speaker 10: on their desks, took their chairs from them, and they
Speaker 10: were completely intimidated and not even allowed to leave the
Speaker 10: room for a rest break. And what happened then is
Speaker 10: that the city council just kind of adopted this whole
Speaker 10: idea that it was all the police fault.
Speaker 1: Capitulated.
Speaker 10: They capitulated it was a lot easier.
Speaker 2: Well, and I must observe the other development we have,
Speaker 2: and you know, no Orwellian fanom I at least these
Speaker 2: days we have body camera footage. Yes, and that has
Speaker 2: burst the bubble of so many people who claim it
Speaker 2: was police were in the wrong. It's the police who
Speaker 2: did this. It's reduced the number of complaints that there
Speaker 2: was police brutality and no, here's the body camera exactly,
Speaker 2: go ahead and draw your own conclusions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's it's I think it's solved.
Speaker 2: More problems for the police department than it has well provided,
Speaker 2: you know, documented proof that the police were in the wrong.
Speaker 10: And there's been improvements in technology for non lethal force.
Speaker 10: So the tasers were a huge breakthrough because that gave
Speaker 10: them an option short of the club.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and when the taser shut up, the
Speaker 2: PR twenty fours went the way of the Dodo exactly.
Speaker 10: And so but the other interesting thing is that tasers
Speaker 10: were absolutely considered like a horrible, cruel and unusual tool
Speaker 10: for the police by the media, and the police had
Speaker 10: to weather that storm of all these bogus reports about
Speaker 10: how many people were going to die, and this is
Speaker 10: absolutely you know, it's a deadly jolt of electricity.
Speaker 2: And that's hilarious because all the all the cadets of
Speaker 2: the police department go through they get tasered, that's true,
Speaker 2: they get shot with a tasers, so they know damn
Speaker 2: well how it feels and what it does through you exactly.
Speaker 10: And you don't hear of anybody getting killed or going
Speaker 10: into the hospital.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, you know, pause, we'll bring Peter back.
Speaker 2: Got a couple more segments with him. I'm really enjoying this.
Speaker 2: I hope you are as cherry if you love Harse
Speaker 2: Talk Station taking a walk through history not one of
Speaker 2: the high points in Greater Cincinnati's history, but one certainly
Speaker 2: worthy of exploring. In Peter Bronson's in studio, his book
Speaker 2: Behind the Lines, the Untold Stories of the Cincinnati Riots,
Speaker 2: and we're kind of walking through the practical reality of
Speaker 2: what happened and then sort of paralleling it with or
Speaker 2: comparing it to how the media just twisted the narrative
Speaker 2: on it and actually fed the fuel for these riots
Speaker 2: and fed the fuel for the fire. And it's just
Speaker 2: been a real eye opener because you know, honestly, Peter,
Speaker 2: it's been so long, and I'm not quite sure how
Speaker 2: closely connected I was with the facts at the time
Speaker 2: that was going on.
Speaker 1: But which calendar year was this again, two thousand and one.
Speaker 2: Two thousand and one, Yeah, back in town. We came
Speaker 2: back in ninety eight from Chicago.
Speaker 10: And everything that happened, remember, is completely eclipsed by the
Speaker 10: World Trade Center attack which followed shortly thereafter. So this
Speaker 10: was in April and that happens in September. So for Cincinnati,
Speaker 10: this was still huge and the effects lingered for about
Speaker 10: two or three years. I don't know if you were
Speaker 10: here then, but we had a thriving entertainment district on
Speaker 10: Main Street that was pretty much just died from the
Speaker 10: boycotts and from the violence, and that kind of went away.
Speaker 10: Now it's kind of over. It's in OTR. But I
Speaker 10: mean a lot of cool places like Neons were there,
Speaker 10: and yeah, all kinds of places, but you know, the city,
Speaker 10: a lot of restaurants failed. There was really terrible boycotts
Speaker 10: and a lot of confrontations and nasty The whole city
Speaker 10: was just in a terrible kind of hostile, divided climate.
Speaker 2: This you know, go back to go back to Watts
Speaker 2: and go back to you know, Rodney King, and it
Speaker 2: seems to have like a cyclical effect. Yes, I don't
Speaker 2: know if there's any connection with the political environment generally
Speaker 2: speaking and this type of rioting behavior happening, because you know,
Speaker 2: you could see with Antifa now they had their own
Speaker 2: separate issues, but a lot of fires and looting and
Speaker 2: destruction and anti police activity.
Speaker 10: I think same thing, and just burning police stations. It's
Speaker 10: just another escalation on this ladder that we saw and
Speaker 10: it's pretty much the same things that happened in Cincinnati,
Speaker 10: but in a little bit more expanded scale, and it
Speaker 10: keeps getting worse and morrise. And I really, because I'm
Speaker 10: in the media. Maybe yeah, well, you know, the guy
Speaker 10: who has a hammer looks at everything like a nail.
Speaker 10: Maybe that's me. But I think the media, with many
Speaker 10: good intentions, perhaps of trying to unite the country, has
Speaker 10: done more to divide us on the issues of race
Speaker 10: than anyone.
Speaker 2: Well, again, it goes back to clickbait, you know, unification,
Speaker 2: uniting speaking a message of you know, enjoying and living
Speaker 2: under collectively in peace, in the name of freedom and
Speaker 2: liberty and respecting your neighbors. You know that don't That
Speaker 2: doesn't get clicks, It doesn't get people buying you know, murder, mayhem, ray, pestilans, police, brutality, brutality.
Speaker 2: You know you're going to buy a paper, you know.
Speaker 2: It's like you can go back to the movies in
Speaker 2: the nineteen thirties and forties, headlines headlines murder of so
Speaker 2: and so, and that of.
Speaker 1: Course is why people would buy papers.
Speaker 2: Absolutely so. Yeah, well, human nature is what it is.
Speaker 2: It is, at least I think I have. I'm as
Speaker 2: much of as much problems as many problems rather are
Speaker 2: created by the Internet. And this way that the Internet
Speaker 2: has of being able to reach so many people in
Speaker 2: such short period of time that you can get a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of idiots and don't know what to talk
Speaker 2: talking about showing up on a Saturday to protest cutting
Speaker 2: out ridiculous government ways and claiming that medicaid is somehow
Speaker 2: being gutted, when in fact the polar opposite is happening.
Speaker 2: That's a downside. An upside is though, that you and
Speaker 2: I actually can go out into the world and get
Speaker 2: a broader view and more opinions and a broader swath
Speaker 2: of how the information is being presented, which if you're
Speaker 2: smart enough, you'll get a clear picture of what reality is.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 10: I think you make a great point, and social media
Speaker 10: and the online websites have really it's like giving the
Speaker 10: most irresponsible people in the media back in two thousand
Speaker 10: and one an amplifier and a bull horn. Yeah, and
Speaker 10: now they can spread it even faster with less research,
Speaker 10: less reporting, less.
Speaker 1: Evidence, less accountability.
Speaker 10: And it's, like you said, it's clickbase. So if they
Speaker 10: have to correct if the next day, who can because
Speaker 10: they got the income that they can show advertisers from
Speaker 10: those million clicks.
Speaker 2: Let's pause wording Peter back for one more. I'll be
Speaker 2: right back after these brief words here fifty five KRCD
Speaker 2: Thalk states, and I haven't been thoroughly enjoying his look
Speaker 2: back in history with Peter Bronson regarding the riots which
Speaker 2: took place tomorrow twenty four years April ninth, to kick
Speaker 2: off of the riots here in the Cincinnati if you
Speaker 2: want to read about it, he wrote the book along
Speaker 2: a while back. Two thousand and six was the published
Speaker 2: date Behind the Lines, the Untold Story of the Cincinnati Riots.
Speaker 2: And you brought up some great elements about this that
Speaker 2: I'm sure so many people have forgotten. But all the
Speaker 2: parallels that we can draw with other almost identical situations,
Speaker 2: to me has been rather fascinating, connecting the dots and
Speaker 2: showing the parallels, and most notably the idea that quite
Speaker 2: often these things are if not only tiny bit baked,
Speaker 2: but half at best, when people start flying off the
Speaker 2: handle and drawing conclusions and engaging in outright acts of
Speaker 2: destruction and violence, when they themselves while they may be
Speaker 2: angry at this system, or they may be angry at
Speaker 2: you know, law enforcement generally in these particulars, many of
Speaker 2: these circumstances, the anger isn't justified.
Speaker 10: No, as you pointed out, there may be a background
Speaker 10: climate that is contributing to this. But I think by now,
Speaker 10: by now, after we've been through this so many times,
Speaker 10: we've seen this rodeo before, that climate, especially in police practices,
Speaker 10: is for all intents and purposes gone. Will there be exceptions, Oh, sure,
Speaker 10: of course. Ye, that's human nature, that's life. But the
Speaker 10: idea that there is a systemic racism and a police department,
Speaker 10: or that police are out there looking for excuses to
Speaker 10: be racist and kill or arrest or beat people because
Speaker 10: of their ethnicity, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I think it is too.
Speaker 2: And you know, there was a guy named Corey that
Speaker 2: called in and he said he just through these broadbrush
Speaker 2: conclusions cops want to be costs because they want to
Speaker 2: go out and shoot somebody, that they're all trigger happy.
Speaker 2: And I'm listening to this thinking about my sister, who,
Speaker 2: after twenty five years, you know, served since my police
Speaker 2: department and her community. Well, she had stories that she
Speaker 2: used to talk about being spit on, punched, having to
Speaker 2: get you know, wrestle people to the ground, getting abused
Speaker 2: herbally and orally all and never once did she had
Speaker 2: to pull her firearmar To the best of my knowledge,
Speaker 2: I know she never had to shoot anybody. But he
Speaker 2: was being insistent upon this, and so I looked. I
Speaker 2: looked up the fun fact. In twenty twenty four, in
Speaker 2: the United States, they were over one point two eight
Speaker 2: million sworn law enforcement officers, with about one hundred and
Speaker 2: thirty seven thousand of them working for federal agencies and
Speaker 2: the rest at state, local levels. And I see, you know,
Speaker 2: of course there are going to be jerks in there,
Speaker 2: just like the general populations that's in prison. That's why
Speaker 2: they find murderers and rapists are the vast majority of
Speaker 2: people murderers and rapists. Do we have this collective mindset
Speaker 2: that we're all, you know, justifying committing these horrific acts. No,
Speaker 2: they're always going to be a few bad apples. But
Speaker 2: going back to the social media part, they do make
Speaker 2: the headlines. Yes, And when you have this mentality of
Speaker 2: the George Floyd mentality, this particular mentality what comes from
Speaker 2: the riots and people you know, immediately using it as
Speaker 2: a vehicle to attack the entire police department. No one
Speaker 2: thinks contextually about it.
Speaker 10: Sensationalism has been monetized. It has That's what we look
Speaker 10: at in our media today at all levels. I'm talking
Speaker 10: about network news, cable news, everything, especially social media and
Speaker 10: online platforms. The more sensationalists, the more readers click it,
Speaker 10: the more money you make.
Speaker 2: Well listeners you can get to still get a copy.
Speaker 2: Behind the lines, the untold stories of the sin say
Speaker 2: riots all so the man who saves Cincinnati promised Land,
Speaker 2: how the Midwest was one forbidden fruit, sin City, the
Speaker 2: underworld and the supper club inferno not in our town.
Speaker 2: The Queen City versus the King of Smut, which of
Speaker 2: course talks about hustler publisher Larry Flint and the whole.
Speaker 2: I mean, you even did the Cincinnati Art Museum, Maplethorpe
Speaker 2: thing in that one. It's all great stuff. Peter writes
Speaker 2: a hell of a book. They're all Day. You can
Speaker 2: get him at Chili Dogpress dot com. That's his publishing company,
Speaker 2: So I recommend you buy him from there, as opposed
Speaker 2: to getting him through wherever you might get him, like Amazon.
Speaker 2: But I can't recommend him enough. He writes a terrific
Speaker 2: book and a great storyteller you are, and you want to.
Speaker 1: I don't want you to give it up.
Speaker 2: And if you don't want to say anything, I know
Speaker 2: you're working on a new book.
Speaker 10: Yes I am, and I won't say anything.
Speaker 2: Okay, I won't give it up then, but you know
Speaker 2: it suspicious. This is going to be a fascinating book
Speaker 2: you got. I don't want to. I can't tease it
Speaker 2: too much because I'll give away this subject matter. But
Speaker 2: another really locally based story. And since we brought up
Speaker 2: Ken Lawson earlier in all his troubles, oh gosh, man,
Speaker 2: he had a really serious problem going on at the
Speaker 2: time of these.
Speaker 10: Riots, absolutely drug addiction.
Speaker 1: He's cleaned himself up, he has.
Speaker 10: The last time I talked to him, he was clean,
Speaker 10: had been for a long time. He was in Hawaii
Speaker 10: and he was practicing. He was teaching at the University
Speaker 10: of Hawaii, teaching legal ethics, which.
Speaker 2: It's just sounds hilarious. But the off air you mentioned,
Speaker 2: I think this is we're pointing out. Since we're closing
Speaker 2: out the segment here, Ken was one of the people
Speaker 2: at that law and Public safety meeting during the riot
Speaker 2: that he.
Speaker 10: Was one of the instigators along with the Reverend Damon Lynch.
Speaker 2: He admitted to you at that time that he was,
Speaker 2: oh yeah.
Speaker 10: He was deep into his opioid addiction at that time
Speaker 10: and doing all kinds of terribly unethical and illegal things
Speaker 10: to keep feeding his hat. But when you watch the
Speaker 10: tape of that was I went back when I researched
Speaker 10: the book, Uh yeah, his behavior definitely backs that up.
Speaker 1: How about that?
Speaker 10: And he kept he knew better, and we now know
Speaker 10: that he did know better that the police couldn't release
Speaker 10: what he kept telling them he wanted to get and
Speaker 10: they couldn't do it. It was it was just not
Speaker 10: available or it was not legally proper, and so he
Speaker 10: kind of exploited the situation too to cause a lot
Speaker 10: of violence. And that's where the riot really erupted right
Speaker 10: there in law in public safety.
Speaker 2: What a shame anyway, read about in Peter's book. Peter,
Speaker 2: it's been a real pleasure. I can't thank you for
Speaker 2: coming to the studio and talks with It's always pleasure, man,
Speaker 2: You always enjoyed this.
Speaker 1: You're always welcome here.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: We'll have something else to talk about real soon. I
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Speaker 2: You're going to want to hear this presentation. Oliver, welcome
Speaker 2: back to the Morning Show. It's always a pleasure talking
Speaker 2: with you.
Speaker 11: Well, thank you for a fantastic introduction.
Speaker 4: It's great to be back.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I appreciate this subject matter. What's happening
Speaker 2: in Europe and what am I to portend to the
Speaker 2: United States subheading. While authoritarian to authoritarianism has been on
Speaker 2: the rise among the political class, a populist reaction is
Speaker 2: taking place in response. I mean, I guess I should
Speaker 2: start up by saying, Oliver, what did they our political
Speaker 2: elites expect when they opened the borders in the European Union?
Speaker 2: And then we felt the same thing. Mostly under the
Speaker 2: Biden administration open the borders, you had this unchecked, amazing
Speaker 2: inflow of immigrants with no connection to your political culture,
Speaker 2: no collection, no collection to your culture. Generally speaking, things
Speaker 2: got pretty bad and people started looking around in Italy,
Speaker 2: in France and the UK and Germany like, wait a second,
Speaker 2: what what happened to our country? We're not the same
Speaker 2: country we used to be. Our culture has been completely eroded,
Speaker 2: our cities are overrun. The criminal element in the criminal
Speaker 2: the amount of crime has gone through the roof. Of course,
Speaker 2: there's going to be a populist revolt to that. Isn't
Speaker 2: that just sort of a natural reaction?
Speaker 1: Oliver, Well, what you.
Speaker 11: Couldn't see when you said, what exactly.
Speaker 4: Did they expect?
Speaker 11: Was me grinning from here to wear, because that is
Speaker 11: the best possible question you could ask, and I wish
Speaker 11: I had an answer for you. What did they expect exactly?
Speaker 11: When you force upon people who in countries across Europe
Speaker 11: and probably in the United States as well, who have
Speaker 11: voted against mass migration again and again and again, election
Speaker 11: after election for decades, and no matter actually the result
Speaker 11: of the election, you always get the same thing, which
Speaker 11: is more and more open borders. So what we have
Speaker 11: so called is this populous uprising, which is of course
Speaker 11: an entirely natural counter reaction to elite overreach because they
Speaker 11: decided they could do whatever it is they wanted, no
Speaker 11: matter how the people advised them, in the endless elections
Speaker 11: that we have in these wonderful democracies, which are democracies
Speaker 11: that hurt, and they're in trouble because if you have
Speaker 11: a situation where people vote again and again to stop
Speaker 11: something and it doesn't happen, then well, is that.
Speaker 4: A democracy worth the name?
Speaker 11: So it's good and it's healthy, and it's a natural
Speaker 11: reaction that we have these as I say, so called
Speaker 11: populis reactions in Europe and in the United States, and
Speaker 11: I certainly think a President Trump is a part of that.
Speaker 11: And in terms of encouraging your fine listeners to tune
Speaker 11: into this empower you seminar to item is going to
Speaker 11: be a short talk followed by questions, and I'm really
Speaker 11: looking forward to those questions. That's obviously always the best part.
Speaker 11: But the thing that you're going to have to tune
Speaker 11: into here is why I think populism is a bad
Speaker 11: word and one that we shouldn't use on the.
Speaker 2: Right fair enough, and I'm sure you'll provide a wonderful
Speaker 2: explanation of it, and maybe an alternative term to use
Speaker 2: when we're referring to what is this, wait a second,
Speaker 2: what about us mentality? Our government has seemed to just
Speaker 2: turned its back on its own people, And yeah, you can,
Speaker 2: I think clearly connect the dots to this concept of
Speaker 2: this globalist, one world government. They view independent countries as bad.
Speaker 2: They want one size fits all, they want to control
Speaker 2: us all and it's it seems to me that this
Speaker 2: importation of literally millions and millions of people into otherwise
Speaker 2: stable areas has an erosion effect on that. If you
Speaker 2: import a bunch of people from the Middle East into
Speaker 2: the European Union, they don't care about the borders of
Speaker 2: Germany or the UK or Italy. It just means nothing
Speaker 2: to them. They have no roots and no connection or
Speaker 2: foundation with it. So if they were eradicated, they don't
Speaker 2: care as long as they have a place to eat
Speaker 2: in someone feeding them. I suppose whatever you got by
Speaker 2: way of government is fine with them, because they've all
Speaker 2: grown up under authoritarian regimes.
Speaker 11: Anyway, a real cynic might argue there's an element of
Speaker 11: divide and rules of this. If you have a country
Speaker 11: that has, for instance, two predominant factors or two predominant
Speaker 11: factions I should say, be they based on faith, or
Speaker 11: based on skin color, or based on class or anything
Speaker 11: like that, that's a perfect situation for civil uprising, for unrest,
Speaker 11: for civil war, even which.
Speaker 4: Are horrible words and not things.
Speaker 11: We'd like to think about, because you have two groups
Speaker 11: that are powerful enough to fight, and if you want
Speaker 11: to have a peaceful country from position of an authoritarian.
Speaker 11: It's far better to have a country with a great
Speaker 11: many small groups, none of whom are powerful enough to
Speaker 11: do anything. They're too busy bickering amongst themselves.
Speaker 4: You can then divide and rule.
Speaker 11: And when I look at the very diverse way in
Speaker 11: which our countries are being changed, as I say, a
Speaker 11: real cynic might argue that this produces a situation in
Speaker 11: the for instance, European states, which where elite control is
Speaker 11: rendered much easier.
Speaker 1: Well, yes, I can certainly draw, draw the dots or
Speaker 1: connect the dots together.
Speaker 4: It on that. Now.
Speaker 2: The other component of this is, and you know, we
Speaker 2: face this struggle here in the United States, where I think,
Speaker 2: culturally speaking, we prided ourselves, you know, on this Melting
Speaker 2: Pod concert. We had Irish, we had English, we had Germans,
Speaker 2: we had Hispanics, we have all these different subgroups of cultures.
Speaker 2: But coming here with the freedom and ability and liberty
Speaker 2: to do as they choose, work under this umbrella of
Speaker 2: freedom without too much government control over their lives. It
Speaker 2: was really a motivation to draw people and that all
Speaker 2: worked for us, except in modern times with social media.
Speaker 2: And this is the point I'm gonnatimately get to, that
Speaker 2: division can be created, and you start putting in divisive elements.
Speaker 2: It starts breaking these otherwise cohesive under the banner of freedom,
Speaker 2: people who could peacefully live together. And you start saying, no,
Speaker 2: you're in Asian America. No you're in Irish America. No
Speaker 2: you're an African American, and then you drive a wedge
Speaker 2: between otherwise peaceful groups. That's how you get this division
Speaker 2: that we're talking about, and even under a banner of freedom,
Speaker 2: it ends up collapsing on itself.
Speaker 11: Yes, I think there are two distinct elements here, because,
Speaker 11: of course, in the past, the United States has had
Speaker 11: these actually quite considerable waves of migration. Historically going back
Speaker 11: the past two hundred and fifty years, first British migrants predominantly,
Speaker 11: and I think if you look at the numbers now
Speaker 11: even now, the English settlers are the largest legacy.
Speaker 4: White group, followed very closely by the Germans.
Speaker 11: You had the Germans, and you had the Italians, and
Speaker 11: you had the Norwegians and the Swedish who settled in the.
Speaker 4: North of the United States of America.
Speaker 11: But always after these arrivals, it seems there's an automatic response,
Speaker 11: a self healing instinct in the United States that when
Speaker 11: you have a sudden large arrival. You manage that then
Speaker 11: by actually having a period where the borders are closed
Speaker 11: and that group, which is not constantly being reinforced with
Speaker 11: new migrants arriving from abroad, is forced to integrate and
Speaker 11: actually has to become part of the American dream.
Speaker 4: And that's worked very well in the past.
Speaker 11: And the problem that we have now, as you absolutely
Speaker 11: rightly identify with the emergency, say, social media, which is
Speaker 11: great in so many ways and is a fantastic tool
Speaker 11: for fighting back against globalization, against the lead capture because
Speaker 11: it allows people like you and me to trade information
Speaker 11: so freely. The other side of that coin, the issue
Speaker 11: to be dealt with is it also allows getivization because
Speaker 11: those new communities that arise never have to experience life
Speaker 11: outside of their own social milieu. There's never any pressure
Speaker 11: to integrate into American society, to participate in.
Speaker 4: The traditional American dream, because if you're.
Speaker 11: A newly alrived migrant, you can do everything online in
Speaker 11: your own language with people who talk and think like you.
Speaker 4: Why would you have done anything else?
Speaker 2: And then you also have authoritarian governments who try to
Speaker 2: crack down on what they deem to be offensive or
Speaker 2: hurtful comments, and they curtail speech and don't prevent or
Speaker 2: don't allow for the free exercise and exchange of thoughts
Speaker 2: and ideas. And that to me is I mean, in
Speaker 2: the United States, we have a really, really well protected
Speaker 2: freedom of speech here, But when I look over the
Speaker 2: pond and I see what goes on in the European Union,
Speaker 2: I mean, you can you jail people for what someone
Speaker 2: deems offensive or hurtful, and it just runs such a
Speaker 2: foul to our traditional notions of free speech.
Speaker 11: Yes, well, the way I think of this is this,
Speaker 11: when we have discussions and I'm going on a bit.
Speaker 4: Of a tangent here, I hope you'll forgive me.
Speaker 11: But when we have discussions now about the future of
Speaker 11: artificial intelligence, we say, one of the problems that we
Speaker 11: have with our future computer overlords is that whoever programs
Speaker 11: them gets the sway on where they go. So if
Speaker 11: a computer's greatest good, it's the highest possible moral outcome
Speaker 11: for them, is that there's you know, never any racism
Speaker 11: or you know, transgender people are never misgendered. As the
Speaker 11: example goes, then the computer, the artificial intelligence might do
Speaker 11: things that ordinary people find might totally abhorrent, totally terrible
Speaker 11: to uphold those standards. So if the computer thinks that
Speaker 11: somebody not being misgendered is a higher moral good than
Speaker 11: a misgendering individual, say an ordinary person being shot, then
Speaker 11: the computer will choose to shoot the person who's committing
Speaker 11: that fault crime. Now, when I look at the way
Speaker 11: that our political elites, which are now being dismantled by
Speaker 11: the popular st uprisings we have in Europe and the US,
Speaker 11: I look at them, I think these people are not
Speaker 11: actually much more intelligent than a stupid AI computer software
Speaker 11: as a whole. The way they think and collectively they
Speaker 11: decide what their their greatest goods are, their their their
Speaker 11: moral imperatives, and that might be that the greatest moral
Speaker 11: good this government can deliver is that we don't have intercommunal,
Speaker 11: intercommunity strife. So there's no riots between different ethnic groups
Speaker 11: in the United States. And as long as we're achieving that, which,
Speaker 11: let's be honest between you and I, that is definitely
Speaker 11: a good outcome. Nobody wants that, right, But if that's
Speaker 11: your highest moral good, then you will stop at nothing
Speaker 11: into that, even if that means putting essentially normal well
Speaker 11: meeting people in prison, just in case they do a
Speaker 11: little naughty wrong thing.
Speaker 2: Now, in terms of the makeup of the European Union,
Speaker 2: I mean it's almost as if you have a version
Speaker 2: of the United States, you have Degreece, you have Germany,
Speaker 2: you have Italy, of all these different countries under the
Speaker 2: larger banner of the European Union. Now has that resulted,
Speaker 2: because it seems from my perspective, it's resulted in the
Speaker 2: erosion of the autonomy of any given country to go
Speaker 2: in a different direction. Oh no, no, Brussels says you
Speaker 2: can't do that, And therefore any election in France maybe
Speaker 2: doesn't bring about the outcome that the French people want
Speaker 2: out of an election because they have this bigger power
Speaker 2: tone than what they can and cannot do. Have I
Speaker 2: kind of got that right a little bit.
Speaker 11: Yeah, Absolutely, the United State of the European Union wants
Speaker 11: to be like the United States. The political I keep
Speaker 11: on using this friend that praise. The political le have
Speaker 11: to forgive me for sounding like the broken record that
Speaker 11: we have in Brussels and Strong which are the centers
Speaker 11: of power for the European Union, they look at the
Speaker 11: US with envy. They want that power. They want to
Speaker 11: be the federal government for Europe. They're not quite, but
Speaker 11: they're getting there in terms of the impact this has
Speaker 11: on order with Europeans, You're completely right and it is
Speaker 11: an enormous issue. So if we look at the United Kingdom,
Speaker 11: for instance, post Brexit, we have recently left the European Union,
Speaker 11: so we no longer have the EU limiting what we
Speaker 11: can do. And it's actually very interesting to witness essentially
Speaker 11: how mentally stunted the British political class is because they've
Speaker 11: had fifty years where they've never actually had to make
Speaker 11: any decisions because every single item of consequence is decided abroad.
Speaker 11: It's imposed. All you're doing, really and that was this
Speaker 11: is how the saying went. It was government by facts.
Speaker 11: You're being faxed laws from the European Union and your
Speaker 11: only job as a legislator was to implement those laws
Speaker 11: into your own system. So we now have this situation
Speaker 11: where the entire political class has grown up in a
Speaker 11: world where they never have to think, they never have
Speaker 11: to inn evade because it's always done on their behalf.
Speaker 4: And I think actually we're in a.
Speaker 11: Bit of a situation because it's going to take an
Speaker 11: entire generation the people who are capable of independent thought.
Speaker 11: They're teenagers now, the people just getting into politics for
Speaker 11: the first time, just thinking about the way the world works,
Speaker 11: and why the people who are going to be the
Speaker 11: government ministers, the activists, the prime ministers in.
Speaker 4: Thirty or forty years, that's how long it's going to take,
Speaker 4: I think, to escape from this.
Speaker 11: And if you look at and this is not just
Speaker 11: a UK thing, this is all across Europe.
Speaker 4: The present generation.
Speaker 11: Of politicians that we have are afraid of power. They
Speaker 11: rejected and the best possible proof of this totally you
Speaker 11: cannot contradict.
Speaker 4: It in my view, is you look at the way
Speaker 4: the UK works.
Speaker 11: The government still doesn't make decisions. Every possible area of
Speaker 11: competence is farmed out to non government rather non ministerial organizations.
Speaker 4: We call them quangos.
Speaker 11: So if you know, if you want to make a
Speaker 11: decision on prisons, the minister doesn't make a decision and
Speaker 11: have it implemented like you're do In the US, the
Speaker 11: president signs a piece of paper by presidential decree.
Speaker 4: This thing happens.
Speaker 11: They say, Okay, we recognize there as a problem the
Speaker 11: prison system. We're going to call for a report, an
Speaker 11: inquiry from an arms length body and they'll tell.
Speaker 4: Us what to do.
Speaker 11: And actually every single area of government is run like this.
Speaker 4: And we remember not.
Speaker 11: Perhaps the world's greatest example, we remember Liz Trust, the
Speaker 11: very short lived British prime minister. Conservative Party, came in
Speaker 11: said we need to change things. The way the international
Speaker 11: monetary system works, the way government debt works, everything, it's
Speaker 11: all broken.
Speaker 4: And we want to change it.
Speaker 11: And all these little organizations that the government has created
Speaker 11: over the past forty years. When no, you didn't ask us,
Speaker 11: we don't agree. And with that the government collapsed instantly
Speaker 11: because this network of allizations have been created to control
Speaker 11: the government did not give its consent. It's going to
Speaker 11: take a lot of work to get beyond that, but
Speaker 11: I very very believe it's possible.
Speaker 2: Well, i'll tell you what, Oliver Lane. Now you'd be
Speaker 2: surprised how similar we are to written in that regard.
Speaker 2: We call them non governmental organizations, quite often funded by
Speaker 2: very large left wing dollars and the taxpayer dollars. We
Speaker 2: have a very similar political situation. Lots of the work
Speaker 2: gets farmed out to these crazy organizations, and politicians tend
Speaker 2: to not do what they're well elected to do. It's
Speaker 2: going to be a fantastic conversation. Empower Youamerica dot org,
Speaker 2: register from home, tune in, make sure they're at seven pm.
Speaker 2: Oliver Lane's going to give you a mucher, larger and
Speaker 2: broader presentation on these and the opportunity to ask him questions. Oliver,
Speaker 2: it's always great talking with you do such a wonderful job.
Speaker 2: I'll look forward to our next discussion here at fifty
Speaker 2: five krs the.
Speaker 4: Talk station, and so that's not it's been a pleasure.
Speaker 2: It's always mine as well. A twenty at fifty five
Speaker 2: ks the talk station, Peter Shriek, it's a thirty one
Speaker 2: if you have k CED talk station communication breakdown with
Speaker 2: Jrstreker not in. And this isn't a criticism of Sean McMahon,
Speaker 2: but normally get a video feed hook up with Daniel L. Davis,
Speaker 2: and that was not arranged ahead of time, and he's
Speaker 2: not picking up the phone the phone number we got,
Speaker 2: so maybe won't do it. But Shawn's busy working trying
Speaker 2: to hook up with Daniel Davis. So I'm really curious
Speaker 2: to find out what the hell's going on with the
Speaker 2: Ukraine and Russia situation, which we normally get to do. However,
Speaker 2: this will give me an opportunity to mention two things.
Speaker 2: One thing reminder, Corey Bowman's kickoff. It's early voting now
Speaker 2: for the city of Cincinnati. You got a primary going on.
Speaker 2: Corey Bowman seems like a good guy. He is an
Speaker 2: alternative to Aft tab provol I think he's the well,
Speaker 2: the leading and outstanding Canada on the Republican side of
Speaker 2: the lodger. He's been on the program quite a few times,
Speaker 2: gotten to know him, and I think he's a good man,
Speaker 2: which you know from It Loves Cincinnati, that's for darn sure.
Speaker 2: So Corey Bowman's fund or not a fundraiser. It's a
Speaker 2: meet and greet campaign or voting early voting kickoff, I
Speaker 2: guess is more properly named Price Hill Chili beginning at
Speaker 2: five PM this evening, five to seven, which then will
Speaker 2: give you time to make it from Price l Chili
Speaker 2: over to CVEG. Why do you want to be at
Speaker 2: CVG tonight at nine to five, probably a little bit
Speaker 2: beforehand on terminal on level C. You want to be
Speaker 2: there for the return of the honor flight. You feel
Speaker 2: in a lack of patriotism, you feeling a little maybe
Speaker 2: like you want to support America's military, you want to
Speaker 2: give those Vietnam veterans a pat on the back, because
Speaker 2: they didn't get one when they came back from Vietnam.
Speaker 2: Regardless of how you feel about the propriety of Vietnam
Speaker 2: as a conflict, I think most of them really didn't
Speaker 2: necessarily I don't know if it's most or a half
Speaker 2: or a percentage of them. Quite often men and women
Speaker 2: who serve in America's military don't necessarily cotonto or appreciate
Speaker 2: the reasons motivations for being there. But you know what
Speaker 2: they do the job, They step up to the plate,
Speaker 2: They serve their country. And when the Vietnam veterans came back,
Speaker 2: a lot of them people got and got spit on.
Speaker 2: A lot of them couldn't wear their uniform anywhere. And
Speaker 2: you think being deprived of the right to wear a
Speaker 2: uniform that you proudly wore, only to be viewed as
Speaker 2: a murderer and baby killer by the likes of Jane Fonda.
Speaker 2: You didn't get a military parade. But I think we
Speaker 2: all learned a valuable lesson from that terrible behavior that so.
Speaker 1: Many people engaged in.
Speaker 2: When the Vietnam veterans returned, and that plane that's going
Speaker 2: to be coming back to Cveg tonight again right around
Speaker 2: nine o'clock is going to be packed, or rather is
Speaker 2: packed with Vietnam veteran era era veterans. I talk with
Speaker 2: sub Mariner or Submarine or Mike Cribbage Mike this morning.
Speaker 2: He was there for the sendoff. Andrew pappis former Anderson
Speaker 2: Township trustees on the plane as well, and so they're
Speaker 2: going to be there. But it is an uplifting, perhaps
Speaker 2: allergy inspiring kind of thing, but it's well worth going.
Speaker 2: And if you've got young people in your world, bring
Speaker 2: them along. It's a wonderful patriotic display. So I've been
Speaker 2: a couple of honor flights, and I'm telling you it's
Speaker 2: a moving thing. So if honorflight Tristate dot org where
Speaker 2: all the information is. But today is the first one
Speaker 2: of the season. May twenty first will be the next one.
Speaker 2: That's Wednesday, May twenty first, and then the two be
Speaker 2: determined ones are in September and October. But if you
Speaker 2: can put it down on your calendar to show up
Speaker 2: at least at the welcome home rally, I think you
Speaker 2: will find it is well worth your time and effort,
Speaker 2: and there will be a heapload of people there, a
Speaker 2: heap blow of people. It's always very well attended. So
Speaker 2: no success with Daniel Davis. My apologies for that, and
Speaker 2: I feel badly because I was looking forward to talking
Speaker 2: to him this morning as well. So we'll get to
Speaker 2: hear from Daniel Davis next week. Keep my fingers crossed
Speaker 2: on that. Peter Browns was in studio for an hour
Speaker 2: that will ultimately be on the podcast pageifty five KRSEE
Speaker 2: dot com. Since Joe's out, that hasn't been updated yet,
Speaker 2: so the guests from yesterday aren't up, including well my
Speaker 2: conversation with Christopher Smithman, which is always a quite enjoyable
Speaker 2: one as well. Uh, don't go away. We're gonna be
Speaker 2: learning about head and neck cancer doctor Joseph Shaughnessy from OHC.
Speaker 2: They're my cancer doctors and he's one of the great
Speaker 2: ones at OHC talking about head and net cancer. We'll
Speaker 2: learn all about that coming up. I hope you can
Speaker 2: stick around. Colm eight thirty seven come up in a
Speaker 2: thirty eight here fifty five KRCD talk station Brian Thomas
Speaker 2: with one of the good doctors from OHC my cancer doctors. Yes,
Speaker 2: I'm getting my ct scandiday and keep my fingers crossed
Speaker 2: because I've got low spectrum lymphoma. But today we're gonna
Speaker 2: be talking about head and net cancer. Why because it's
Speaker 2: Head and Neck Cancer Month in studio to talk about that,
Speaker 2: doctor Joseph Shaughnessy. And just so you know, because you're
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Speaker 1: To be glad you're talking to him. They're outstanding doctors.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the morning show, doctor Joseph, Joseph Shaughnessy.
Speaker 1: It's a pleasure to have you here.
Speaker 10: Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2: And you've got a well let's see here proof positive
Speaker 2: in my hands radiation on collages with interest including breast cancer,
Speaker 2: head and neck cancer, lung cancer, prostate cancer, gastor intestinal cancer,
Speaker 2: and skin cancer.
Speaker 1: Broad field of work you do there, doctor.
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's kind of the nature of what I do
Speaker 12: out in the community. You know, see a broad spectrum
Speaker 12: of cases and yeah, that's just kind of the nature
Speaker 12: of our day to day operation.
Speaker 2: All right, let us initially establish what exactly is head
Speaker 2: and net cancer. What comprises head and net cancer.
Speaker 12: It's basically any cancer that starts above the clavicles. So
Speaker 12: any cancer that arises in the head and neck region
Speaker 12: outside of the brain in the eye, those are normally
Speaker 12: not included in this group of cancers. So that could
Speaker 12: be a tonsil cancer, the back of the throat they
Speaker 12: call it, the base of tongue, anywhere in the mouth
Speaker 12: region or the gums, the voice box otherwise known as
Speaker 12: the larynx. It can include the thyroid, and then even
Speaker 12: skin cancers in the head and neck region. And then
Speaker 12: there's some other rare cancers like the nasal passages or
Speaker 12: the nasopharynx.
Speaker 2: Well, when I just had to dwelmost briefly skin cancer
Speaker 2: in the head and neck region, that will be exterior
Speaker 2: on your neck, that would still fall into your area
Speaker 2: of practice or head and neck cancer.
Speaker 12: Yeah, exactly, Okay, And then you know it can start
Speaker 12: in the head and neck area on the external scan,
Speaker 12: and then it could involve the lymph nodes underneath.
Speaker 2: Or fair enough, fair enough because be pasty Northern European
Speaker 2: descentate white guy that's had multiple severe burns when he
Speaker 2: was a child. I have a regular standing visit with
Speaker 2: a dermatologist annually because Dad had a lot of removals
Speaker 2: over the years, he spent a lot of time outside.
Speaker 2: So just a little fun advice. If you want to
Speaker 2: get an appointment with a dermatologists then you might fuck
Speaker 2: you find yourself fall into that category. Not to speak
Speaker 2: out of turn, doctor scheduled appointment now, because it's going
Speaker 2: to be a long time before you can get in
Speaker 2: with the dermatologist.
Speaker 10: Yeah, often six.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, it's crazy, it's just crazy. Anyway.
Speaker 2: Is any one of those various cancers you talked about
Speaker 2: within the head and net cancer room more predominant than others,
Speaker 2: like a softly deal cancer or the larynx or.
Speaker 12: I would say, so, there's this category called the oropharynx,
Speaker 12: that's the tonsils and the back of the tongue. That
Speaker 12: is probably the most common side of origin. And then
Speaker 12: second behind that is probably the voice box. Diyrog cancer
Speaker 12: is also a very common cancer, but that's kind of
Speaker 12: in its own group and not kind of really often
Speaker 12: the focus when they're talking about how net cancer, but
Speaker 12: it is grouped into that as well.
Speaker 2: Do these cancers that you went down thyroid do they
Speaker 2: carry with themselves different like risk factors Like I've read
Speaker 2: and I'm state in the obvious, I think most people
Speaker 2: are paying attention. Smoking, of course, and alcohol consumption can
Speaker 2: also lead to throat cancers.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 12: Absolutely, you hit the nail on the head there. Alcohol
Speaker 12: and various forms of tobacco exposure, probably in some way,
Speaker 12: shape or form, account for seventy to seventy five percent
Speaker 12: of these cancers. So yeah, those are a both very
Speaker 12: well known risk factors and both modifiable risk factors. And
Speaker 12: it's also important to note, you know, if you partake
Speaker 12: in those things, cutting back or abstinence altogether can still
Speaker 12: markedly reduce your risk of cancer in the long term.
Speaker 12: So it's not like the damage is already done. Some
Speaker 12: people think, Okay, I smoked my whole life, or I've
Speaker 12: been drinking excessively for a long time. You know, I've
Speaker 12: already assigned myself that permanent risk factor. If you can,
Speaker 12: if you can scale back, you can reduce you It's
Speaker 12: never too late to quit, exactly right. It six never
Speaker 12: too late to convert salvation. Maybe around the corner you
Speaker 12: maybe it'll avoid this type of thing. Well, how about infections? Yeah,
Speaker 12: so that's the other big kind of driver of these cancers.
Speaker 12: HPV infection. That's short for human power bloma virus. It's
Speaker 12: a family of viruses. They're very common. They cause all
Speaker 12: sorts of things from like run of the mill warts,
Speaker 12: but there are a few more serious types such as
Speaker 12: HPV sixteen.
Speaker 1: Oh and you know these these they like COVID nineteen
Speaker 1: except HPV form no.
Speaker 12: But yeah, you know, when they discover these viruses, they
Speaker 12: just assign a number to them, kind of in order
Speaker 12: of when they discover them. But it most people, it's
Speaker 12: still a very common virus.
Speaker 1: Most everybody's got it.
Speaker 12: Yeah, most people have been exposed in some way, shape
Speaker 12: or form, and then your body just gets rid of
Speaker 12: it and it's not an issue, and then it's just gone.
Speaker 12: But a very small percentage of people don't clear it,
Speaker 12: and it kind of festers and it can cause kind
Speaker 12: of chronic inflammation and eventually cause a regular cell division,
Speaker 12: and then it causes the cancer.
Speaker 2: So it acts in the same way HPV acts on
Speaker 2: cervical cancer. If you have HPV or serveral cancer is
Speaker 2: quite often, if not predominantly, caused by an HPV infection exactly.
Speaker 12: That's it's the exact same mechanism, it's the same family,
Speaker 12: it's the same virus as even the same high risk
Speaker 12: HPV forms that cause cervical cancer can cause neck cancers.
Speaker 2: Okay, And not to get too graphic or specific, but
Speaker 2: the mechanism by which one might contract HPV and end
Speaker 2: up with throat cancer sort of acts in the same
Speaker 2: way as you get it when you end up contracting
Speaker 2: cervical cancer.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, okay, direct contact and.
Speaker 2: Mouth and yeah, right, okay, So it's a sexually transmitted virus.
Speaker 2: It's a sexually transmitted virus, Okay, regardless where it lands up.
Speaker 2: That's the that's the point of it, all right, Oh,
Speaker 2: of established that clear it up, that little bit of math.
Speaker 2: Now this other one, this HPV sixteen, I've never heard
Speaker 2: of that. Now I've heard of you know, home h people.
Speaker 2: There's there's a whole multitude of these HPV viruses out there,
Speaker 2: and some of them can, like you said, can cause
Speaker 2: warts like genital warts or I guess same thing that
Speaker 2: happens in your throat.
Speaker 12: Yeah, or even just the HPV viruses can cause skin
Speaker 12: words too. I mean, there's so it's a whole spectrum
Speaker 12: of these viruses.
Speaker 2: Okay, and since most people have it, I mean, if
Speaker 2: you're sexually active at all, I guess the statistics are
Speaker 2: that you probably have at least or at least had
Speaker 2: an HPV infection.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, I think I've seen that if you're
Speaker 12: sexually active at all, there's over fifty percent chance that
Speaker 12: you've had some sort of exposure to one of these types.
Speaker 2: All right, how about oral, fair, and genial cancers that's
Speaker 2: caused by HPV as well, because because you say, the
Speaker 2: notes suggest that they're on the rise.
Speaker 12: Yeah, so that is that group of cancers that like
Speaker 12: the tonsil in the back of the tongue, those are
Speaker 12: grouped under the that's a part of your body called
Speaker 12: the oropharynx. And yeah, smoking and alcohol related cancers have
Speaker 12: been diminishing over time. People are engaging in more generally
Speaker 12: responsible behavior and moderation. But these HPV related cancers have
Speaker 12: been increasing over time because the these viruses are just
Speaker 12: so widespread now and exposure is so common. And yeah,
Speaker 12: the oropharynx is that subset of head and neck cancers
Speaker 12: that that tends to manifest these cancers.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's pauses a forty five.
Speaker 2: We'll continue with doctor Joseph Shaughnessy from OHC again online
Speaker 2: in ohcare dot com eight at eight six eight hundred.
Speaker 2: We're gonna get some other risk factors, typical symptoms. Uh,
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about screening a little bit and hopefully
Speaker 2: can they be cured. He'll answer that question as well.
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Speaker 1: A forty eight pig about CARCD talk station.
Speaker 2: OHHC My cancer doctors, ohcare dot coms where you find
Speaker 2: them online eighty and eight sixty eight hundred in studio
Speaker 2: doctor Joseph Shaughnessy, who's a head of net cancer specialists
Speaker 2: among others. He's a whole litany of cancer specialist. But
Speaker 2: we're talking about head and neck cancer. And when we're
Speaker 2: talking about HPV, I asked about the vaccine and it
Speaker 2: was a definite yes. And women can get the HPV
Speaker 2: vaccine in order to try and stave off this right.
Speaker 12: Yes, I mean the hp vaccine is essentially a cancer
Speaker 12: prevention vaccine. It is targeted against the high risk forms
Speaker 12: of HPV, not just sixteen. They include a bunch of
Speaker 12: different variations of it sixteen eighteen thirty one thirty three
Speaker 12: and all these different forms that have been shown to
Speaker 12: be high risk. It can prevent infection and in turn
Speaker 12: can lower your risk of these HPV related cancers significantly.
Speaker 2: All Right, now I'm going on the side of I
Speaker 2: don't care where you are with RFK Junior, I would
Speaker 2: recommend getting that one. All right, What are the other
Speaker 2: risk factors which might cause head and net cancers?
Speaker 1: Generally we've touched on really the main ones.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, you know, there are other certain environmental exposures,
Speaker 12: certain kind of chemicals and substances, certain industrial exposures out there.
Speaker 12: I mean, that's a very small percentage of cancers related
Speaker 12: to that, but there can be you know, just oral hygiene.
Speaker 12: If your mouth is in bad shape and you don't
Speaker 12: take good care of it and you just have chronic
Speaker 12: inflammation in there from bad teeth, et cetera. You know,
Speaker 12: that can be a risk factor.
Speaker 2: That should not happen to anybody in my listening audience.
Speaker 2: You got doctors Peck and Frew. They're great doctors. They're
Speaker 2: dennis to take care of you. Any genetic risk.
Speaker 12: Very little there, Okay, there's not any I mean, short
Speaker 12: answer is.
Speaker 2: Now okay, cutting to the chase. What do people need
Speaker 2: to be looking for in terms of the typical symptoms,
Speaker 2: because you know, you get people freaked out about it, like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, it is what happening now? Is this
Speaker 2: related to throat cancer or something? What are the symptoms?
Speaker 12: Yeah, and that's tricky. There's a whole wide spectrum of
Speaker 12: possible symptoms. I mean, what you're really looking out for
Speaker 12: is something that is new and different for you and
Speaker 12: it's not going away. I mean this can include like
Speaker 12: a sore throat that's hanging around. Most sore throats are
Speaker 12: not cancer related, but if you have a sore throat
Speaker 12: that's persisting despite you giving it some time and some treatment,
Speaker 12: that's something to get checked out. There can be wider
Speaker 12: red patches in the mouth or throat that won't go away,
Speaker 12: or you know, other gross or ulcers in that area.
Speaker 12: If you have a change in your voice, like hoarseness
Speaker 12: or a muffled voice, that could be a sign of
Speaker 12: something going on, a new neck lump that won't go away,
Speaker 12: difficulty swallowing, difficulty chewing, numbness or weakness in your face,
Speaker 12: or you know, bleeding from your nose or mouth. That
Speaker 12: it's more than just a once or twice off deal.
Speaker 12: I mean, it's important to note that not all these
Speaker 12: things mean you have cancer.
Speaker 2: Well that's why my next you can go to your
Speaker 2: primary care physician sort of add an outset and talk
Speaker 2: to that. I don't need to call oh if I
Speaker 2: have a sinus infection that doesn't clear up with antibiotics immediately.
Speaker 12: Absolutely, the your primary care team is your first line
Speaker 12: that you know. They're well versed in managing these issues,
Speaker 12: and they're very well versed and knowing when to escalate
Speaker 12: beyond conventional stuff like antibiotics are given it a little
Speaker 12: extra time.
Speaker 2: All right, So we've talked at we were talked at
Speaker 2: length about the lifestyles and screening. So what about the treatability.
Speaker 2: How treatable are these is it? Can they metastasize? I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess early detection is always usually really the key
Speaker 2: to getting in front of it and being able to
Speaker 2: have a greater likelihood of success. But what's going on
Speaker 2: in the area of treatments and do people still have
Speaker 2: hope if they get diagnosed?
Speaker 12: Yeah, So these cancers are very often absolutely curable, and
Speaker 12: as you touched on, early detection and early intervention can
Speaker 12: really tilt the scales in your favor. You know, if
Speaker 12: it has spread outside the head and neck region, at
Speaker 12: that point in time, it's more about controlling the disease
Speaker 12: rather than cure. But the first thing we're thinking when
Speaker 12: we look at any of these cancer cases is hey,
Speaker 12: how can.
Speaker 10: We get to cure here? And there's a variety of
Speaker 10: tools that we have to get to that.
Speaker 1: Clinical trials going on for any of these types of cancers.
Speaker 12: Absolutely, you're always trying to get better, find new things,
Speaker 12: refine our treatment algorithms. I mean, one of the big
Speaker 12: pushes in some of these clinical trials is actually sometimes
Speaker 12: de intensification of treatment. Sometimes these treatments when you're doing
Speaker 12: surgery or chemote therapy can be quite intense, and we
Speaker 12: want to find that sweet spot where where we're maintaining
Speaker 12: high cure rates but giving people as little side effects
Speaker 12: as possible.
Speaker 2: Well, piling on the incentives for lifestyle changes. While you
Speaker 2: may not be able to avoid getting an HPV infection
Speaker 2: in these worlds, in this world that we currently live in,
Speaker 2: I see that patients with HPV induced or oral fare
Speaker 2: and geal cancer have a very high survival rate over
Speaker 2: five years.
Speaker 12: Yeah, so you know, we do a great job with
Speaker 12: these HPV related cancers. I mean a lot of scary
Speaker 12: talk about how you know these viruses are out there,
Speaker 12: people are getting these cancers. Often it can be you know,
Speaker 12: younger patients getting these cancers. But the good news is
Speaker 12: is that the cur rates, yeah, can be around eighty
Speaker 12: five ninety percent, even if it's already spread to the
Speaker 12: lymph nodes in the neck region, still very high curate.
Speaker 2: Well, that is very positive information. But again piling on
Speaker 2: the lifestyle changes, tell my listeners about the population that
Speaker 2: have some smoking slash drinking related.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, they just don't do as well.
Speaker 12: Those are more stubborn, tricky cancers that can be treatment resistant.
Speaker 12: And also you know the effects of smoking and drinking
Speaker 12: for decades can make your body less able to tolerate
Speaker 12: treatment well. And so the combination of all those factors
Speaker 12: can I mean those cancers have a cur rate. I
Speaker 12: mean often it can be under fifty percent.
Speaker 1: Stuff you need to know, folks.
Speaker 2: And if you need a second opinion you've already been diagnosed,
Speaker 2: get in touch with OHC at eight eight eight six.
Speaker 2: Of course, if your doctor's suggestion you need to be
Speaker 2: referred to a cancer physician. I'm glad that I had
Speaker 2: a dear friend of mine refer me to OHC. I've
Speaker 2: been at their great care for years now and I
Speaker 2: wrongly recommend him as well as just from an independent
Speaker 2: person who's been through that experience. Ohcare dot com is
Speaker 2: where you can learn more. Doctor Shaughnessy, it's been a
Speaker 2: real preasure talking to you this morning. Thanks for all
Speaker 2: the great work you do and keep it up and
Speaker 2: I will again encourage my listeners to get in touch
Speaker 2: with you and related to cancer things.
Speaker 12: Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 2: My pleasure is allmine. Eight fifty five folks. Peter Brownson
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