1 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:05,799 Speaker 1: M M. 2 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 2: A Wall Street line, Shackle Chaine, Oh someome girdie, it's 3 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:32,560 calling my name. There is no mercy and it's been 4 00:00:32,759 --> 00:00:42,119 a tentery juice as the huge stream game Rango three. 5 00:00:42,719 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 3: Come here by me or die inside these walls, inside 6 00:00:53,679 --> 00:00:59,479 the wild hadn't went more girls? 7 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: I Hey everyone, and welcome back to Bloody and Gola, 8 00:01:34,719 --> 00:01:38,680 a podcast one forty two years and making the complete 9 00:01:38,719 --> 00:01:43,120 story of America's bloody is prison. I'm Jim Chapman, and 10 00:01:43,159 --> 00:01:46,120 I want to thank everyone for checking us out this 11 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,280 week on Bloody and Gola. And look, we don't just 12 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:56,359 feature the history of America's bloodiest prison. Although last week's episode, man, 13 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,159 I went way back. If you are into the history 14 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:05,840 of prisons in general, but especially Louisiana State Penitentiary, check 15 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,199 that episode out. I think it was really interesting. But 16 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,240 that's not all I do. I also feature stories of 17 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,080 the incarcerated there, and today I'm going to take you 18 00:02:16,199 --> 00:02:20,919 not only through a case and an investigation, but also 19 00:02:21,039 --> 00:02:26,759 the conviction and eventual incarceration at Louisiana State Penitentiary of 20 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:32,199 those responsible for the murder of Janoor Guillery. And before 21 00:02:32,199 --> 00:02:34,439 I get into it, I want to shout out Miss 22 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:39,240 Nicole Bess. I would say, quite a while ago she 23 00:02:39,599 --> 00:02:42,439 sent me a message asking me to do a story 24 00:02:42,479 --> 00:02:46,960 on this particular case. And so miss Nicole, I finally 25 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,159 got to it, and here it is. I hope you 26 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,479 enjoy it. So I'm going to take you back to 27 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,800 June twenty sixth, in the year two thousand and in 28 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:01,639 the small community of Clinton, Louisiana. Now on a seemingly 29 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,000 normal Monday morning, a deputy sheriff by the name of 30 00:03:06,199 --> 00:03:10,120 Ronald Johnson. He gets a call to perform what's known 31 00:03:10,159 --> 00:03:15,039 as a wellness check at a home in East Feliciana Parish. 32 00:03:15,599 --> 00:03:18,800 So he shows up to this rural house and as 33 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,560 soon as he gets to the door, he's welcomed by 34 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,240 what you would referred to as the scent of death. 35 00:03:28,159 --> 00:03:31,520 Just an odor that is unmistakable. I know a lot 36 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,479 of you out there when there's a pet, maybe you 37 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,240 lived by some woods or something, and an animal gets 38 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,639 killed in the woods and you can smell it after 39 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,879 a couple of days. Well, that time's ten right now, 40 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:49,800 even for this season, Deputy, it took him aback. So 41 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:55,560 he makes entry into the home and that scent intentifies 42 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,280 and he's almost like a bloodhound. He's following the strength 43 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:04,360 of that just horrid scent, and that scent eventually leads 44 00:04:04,439 --> 00:04:09,840 him into a master bedroom where just an absolutely gruesome 45 00:04:10,639 --> 00:04:15,759 scene awaits him. So he peers into that bedroom and 46 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,959 there he sees the body of a forty two year 47 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:25,439 old named Jenior Gillery. She is lifeless and nude on 48 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,000 the floor. The scene was so gruesome, in fact, that 49 00:04:29,079 --> 00:04:33,959 he walked outside the house, picks up his CB two 50 00:04:34,319 --> 00:04:39,079 radio for back up to the house, and throws up 51 00:04:39,439 --> 00:04:42,480 by his patrol car, now detected by the name of 52 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,879 Don McKee. He arrives on the scene shortly after, and 53 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,519 they get to work trying to figure out what the 54 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:54,519 hell happened to this woman. So before I go any further, 55 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,480 I want to give you a little information on Jenior 56 00:04:57,639 --> 00:05:01,199 Gillery and who she was. She was a beatiful black woman. 57 00:05:01,639 --> 00:05:05,680 She lived a modest, yet fulfilling life in a two 58 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:10,399 story wood framed home on the end of a gravel 59 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:15,519 road in Clinton, Louisiana. And as common in that Clinton, 60 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:20,079 Louisiana area, most of your homes are surrounded by some acreage. 61 00:05:20,519 --> 00:05:25,160 These aren't neighborhoods, and she had several acres that surrounded 62 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,560 her home. She also had a love for animals, dogs 63 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,319 in particulars. As matter of fact, she had thirty dogs 64 00:05:32,439 --> 00:05:36,560 that she kept safely kindled in her back property. And 65 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,759 she also loved horses, and she had four horses which 66 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:45,439 she stabled nearby. Now, in her personal life, Janor was 67 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,279 a personnel specialist at an insurance firm in Baton Ridge, 68 00:05:49,319 --> 00:05:54,160 which is about sixty miles from where she lived in Clinton, 69 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,519 and she absolutely loved her job. She was known by 70 00:05:58,519 --> 00:06:03,480 her colleagues as very very professional, very kind, very positive, 71 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,560 and very generous. As a matter of fact, a coworker 72 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:12,560 of hers named Linda Kuno actually described her as the 73 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:17,839 most generous person she ever encountered. So this is not 74 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,879 someone you would think would end up with the fate 75 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:26,959 that I'm about to tell you about. On this particular Friday, 76 00:06:27,319 --> 00:06:31,680 Janor had taken a half day off to clean her house. However, 77 00:06:32,439 --> 00:06:35,759 on that Monday, when she failed to arrive at work, 78 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:40,120 which was not like her at all, her friends knew 79 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,720 something wasn't right, something had to be wrong, so they 80 00:06:43,759 --> 00:06:49,399 started calling her cell phone and they get no answer. Voicemail, voicemail, voicemail. 81 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:54,639 So they call her house and it's busy. They call 82 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,439 it again, it's busy. They do this for several hours 83 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,000 and it's obvious the phone is off the hook on 84 00:07:01,079 --> 00:07:05,519 her landline. So that's when they reach out to the 85 00:07:05,639 --> 00:07:09,360 East Flea Sienna pair of Sheriff's department and they say, hey, 86 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:13,759 can you go check on miss g as she was known. 87 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:18,360 So back on the crime scene, Detective McKee, he finds 88 00:07:18,439 --> 00:07:22,920 himself making entry into the residence. He noticed that a 89 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:27,120 side door to Jennor's house was a jar and there 90 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:32,639 was a pretty intimidating black and tan chiwd tied up 91 00:07:32,839 --> 00:07:37,800 right outside that door. He didn't notice any forced entry 92 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,000 into the home as he stepped inside, and he did 93 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:45,519 notice bloodstains on the hardwood floor and they were very prevalent, 94 00:07:45,639 --> 00:07:49,600 which told him this is going to be a bad scene. 95 00:07:50,079 --> 00:07:53,439 So in the kitchen he sees a utensil drawer that 96 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,639 was still open and there were several bloody knives inside 97 00:07:57,639 --> 00:08:00,240 of that drawer. As a matter of fact, in this 98 00:08:00,319 --> 00:08:03,639 section of the house, it was obvious to the detective 99 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:08,959 this is where Geniore was initially attacked, and it appeared 100 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:13,240 that she was pursued throughout that house in an attempt 101 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,600 to escape whoever did this to her, And it was 102 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:22,439 obvious that that scene culminated in the bedroom where it appeared. 103 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,720 The chaos pretty much reached his peak. Inside that bedroom, 104 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,000 Detective McKee, he saw the same thing that that Deputy 105 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:35,840 Sheriff Ronald Johnson saw. Gennoor's body was crumpled beside her bed. 106 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,720 Her skull in particular, just bore the marks of a 107 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:46,519 brutal assault. He noticed knife wing puncture marks in several areas, 108 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:51,360 and even gunshot wounds. Glancing around the room, he really 109 00:08:51,919 --> 00:08:57,000 saw the story. There was broken furniture, shattered glass, even 110 00:08:57,279 --> 00:09:01,840 streaks of blood across the walls. It was just horrific. 111 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,759 As he's investigating this scene, as you would think, word 112 00:09:05,919 --> 00:09:08,000 kind of starts to get out. I mean, this is 113 00:09:08,039 --> 00:09:11,000 a small town, right and there's at this point a 114 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,840 ton of police cars on the scene. Everybody, all these neighbors, 115 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,720 even though there's a lot of acreage between everybody, they 116 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,159 see him driving down the road and they're calling other 117 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,279 neighbors what happened to miss g And eventually a gathering 118 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,080 starts taking place in front of the crime scene that 119 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:32,320 included family, friends, even co workers, left work and drove 120 00:09:32,639 --> 00:09:36,840 to Jenor's home. So the investigation is on right, and 121 00:09:36,919 --> 00:09:40,360 they're working it from the inside out. As they work 122 00:09:40,639 --> 00:09:44,559 all these cases, you start with the people closest to him, 123 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,000 and you roll them out and keep going outside that circle, 124 00:09:49,159 --> 00:09:51,960 if you will. In that circle, it leads them to 125 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:56,480 a young white couple named Philip and Amy Skipper. Now 126 00:09:56,879 --> 00:10:00,639 this young couple, they were navigating challenges, a lot of 127 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,639 challenges in life. At this time. They were new parents. 128 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,080 They were just twenty three years old, and they had 129 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:12,120 recently welcomed a baby boy. They were also caring for 130 00:10:12,159 --> 00:10:15,039 a fifteen year old by the name of John Bellio, 131 00:10:15,639 --> 00:10:19,440 and Jenore, being the generous person that she was, she 132 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,120 wants to take them under her wing, right, she wants 133 00:10:22,159 --> 00:10:25,799 to help them, so she gave them some employment opportunities, 134 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:30,120 including taking care of her dogs and horses and maintaining 135 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,320 her property, and they kind of became friends. As a 136 00:10:33,399 --> 00:10:37,440 matter of fact, she even facilitated a birthday celebration for 137 00:10:37,639 --> 00:10:42,000 that new born son of theirs. And the Skippers, who 138 00:10:42,039 --> 00:10:44,399 did not even have a telephone, they were more than 139 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:48,039 welcome to use Jenior's phone anytime she made that available 140 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,879 to them when they needed to use the phone. So 141 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:55,759 police they work the case and they come across a 142 00:10:55,840 --> 00:11:02,039 situation involving Jenore and one of their own, a forty 143 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,679 five year old Baton Ridge police officer that was recently 144 00:11:05,799 --> 00:11:09,279 hired by the department, and there were some claims that 145 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:14,519 he had been stalking Gennore according to her co workers 146 00:11:14,639 --> 00:11:19,360 and friends. Now her co worker said that he was 147 00:11:19,399 --> 00:11:23,519 bombarding her with phone calls at her workplace, sometimes two 148 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,480 three times a day, and they had only been on 149 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,039 him one date and it was pretty brief, and according 150 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:35,039 to Genial's colleagues, it quickly soured. There was just nothing there, 151 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,000 but she felt uncomfortable with this guy. She would talk 152 00:11:39,039 --> 00:11:42,559 to her friends about it, and she tries to distance 153 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,399 herself from him. She even tells her friends, look, if 154 00:11:45,399 --> 00:11:47,919 he calls me at the office, just say I'm not here, 155 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:52,080 say I'm busy. I don't want to talk to this guy. Now, 156 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,360 despite making it what you would think would be completely 157 00:11:55,519 --> 00:11:58,279 obvious to this guy that she didn't want anything to 158 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,960 do with him, it just made him pursue her harder. 159 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,360 He would show up uninvited at Genor's home and he 160 00:12:06,399 --> 00:12:09,879 would be seen kind of lurking around her office while 161 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,639 she was there. In one evening, while she was attending 162 00:12:13,639 --> 00:12:17,279 to her horses, he shows up at her house unannounced, 163 00:12:18,159 --> 00:12:23,519 which really concerned her, and shortly before her tragic death, 164 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:28,039 he even indicated any message on her cellphone that he 165 00:12:28,279 --> 00:12:33,120 was going to come visit her that weekend, so obviously 166 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:38,120 a lot of red flags to detective Damn McKee. So 167 00:12:38,279 --> 00:12:43,639 McKee he asked this BRPD officer. He says, man, you're 168 00:12:43,639 --> 00:12:46,360 popping up all over the place in this case. Would 169 00:12:46,399 --> 00:12:50,000 you mind taking a polygraph? And the police officer agrees 170 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:54,799 to do that, and guess what, he fails that lit 171 00:12:54,919 --> 00:12:59,639 detective tests. Now doesn't necessarily mean you're lying. False positives 172 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,399 happen a lot. That's why it's not admissible in court. 173 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,840 But it's not good. So the detective lets him know, 174 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,559 hey man, you failed this lit of detector test. I 175 00:13:08,639 --> 00:13:10,639 want to talk to you about this some more. And 176 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:15,559 at that point the BRPD officer says, fuck that, I 177 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,279 want my lawyer. I'm not saying anything else, so he 178 00:13:18,399 --> 00:13:20,960 lawyer's up. They don't have enough evidence at all. They 179 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,320 don't have any evidence in order to kind of keep 180 00:13:23,399 --> 00:13:26,159 him locked up, so they have to let him go 181 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,799 until they can get some evidence, right, So detective McKee 182 00:13:29,879 --> 00:13:34,679 he's doing everything at this point that he can to 183 00:13:34,799 --> 00:13:38,960 find a link between this BRPD officer and the death 184 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:44,039 of Genore. He's looking for evidence anywhere, and he does 185 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,480 end up finding a few things a twenty two caliber 186 00:13:47,759 --> 00:13:54,440 weapon and some matching bloody footprints, but nothing concrete enough 187 00:13:54,720 --> 00:14:00,399 that would definitely say this police officer killed Jeniore. Out 188 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:06,399 throughout this case, obviously the local media starts taking notice, 189 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:12,279 and especially when a BRPD officer is involved in the 190 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,320 case and maybe even looked at as a suspect, they're 191 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,480 on it and they publish a headline and that headline 192 00:14:19,519 --> 00:14:26,399 said police officer suspected in slaying, which obviously totally shocks 193 00:14:26,519 --> 00:14:32,440 the community, puts everyone on edge. And the detective McKee 194 00:14:32,759 --> 00:14:35,840 he has to walk that back and so he does 195 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,440 some interviews and he says, look, we were looking at 196 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,200 this guy. He had a relationship with Jennoor, but there 197 00:14:41,279 --> 00:14:44,080 was nothing concrete to say he's involved in any way, 198 00:14:44,559 --> 00:14:52,879 shape or form, etc. And sadly, eventually that case grows 199 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:57,600 kind of cold. You know, detective McKee, he's busy, he's 200 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,320 working other cases. As a matter of fact, at that 201 00:15:00,519 --> 00:15:04,720 time it was like he was a magnet for higher profile, 202 00:15:04,879 --> 00:15:07,559 harder to solve cases. They had a murder of a 203 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,679 local drug dealer he was working. They had a man 204 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,919 who was killed in his own home that he was 205 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:18,000 working in addition to the Jenore case, and they even 206 00:15:18,039 --> 00:15:20,480 had a disappearance of a two year old boy. During 207 00:15:20,559 --> 00:15:25,519 that time, a criminal known as one Eyed Boo was 208 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,840 killed and he was working that case, so he had 209 00:15:28,879 --> 00:15:32,559 plenty to keep him busy. And unfortunately, there just wasn't 210 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,480 anything there in the case of Jeneire in her murder 211 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:41,120 that would lead to anything at that time, but the 212 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:46,720 case of Jenire Guillery in particular, it haunted that detective. 213 00:15:46,799 --> 00:15:49,559 He wanted to solve it. He couldn't get the images 214 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,200 of the brutality of that case out of his mind. 215 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,759 Yet every clue he tracked led to pretty much a 216 00:15:56,879 --> 00:16:00,200 dead end. He was quoted as saying, I couldn't find 217 00:16:00,519 --> 00:16:05,399 one bad thing out about this woman. Every lead I 218 00:16:05,639 --> 00:16:11,600 chase seemed to vanish, and I'm frustrated. However, on July 219 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:16,399 twenty seventh of twenty twenty one, there was a breakthrough 220 00:16:16,679 --> 00:16:19,799 in that case when a call from a detective in 221 00:16:20,279 --> 00:16:27,440 Tangipahoa Parish changed everything for the detective. So another detective 222 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,720 call McKee and he said, I heard you were looking 223 00:16:30,799 --> 00:16:34,799 into a year old homicide and I have a victim 224 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:39,039 here that I'm working with that has some information on 225 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,200 that possibly. Now, the victim in that case was a 226 00:16:43,279 --> 00:16:46,039 twenty three year old woman who was involved in an 227 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:51,360 abusive relationship. So she files a complaint against her boyfriend 228 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:57,320 for assault in tangipahoe A Parish, and she mentions that 229 00:16:57,399 --> 00:17:01,399 her boyfriend also had information about the murder of a 230 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,599 woman in Clinton known to Manny as Miss g. So 231 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,559 these two detectives, they're talking to each other on the 232 00:17:08,599 --> 00:17:12,359 telephone and McKee is fired up about this new information 233 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,240 and he hangs up the phone. He says, we're coming there. 234 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,759 We want to talk to her, and he rounds up 235 00:17:18,759 --> 00:17:23,599 his sheriff, who is known as Sheriff Bunch and Detective 236 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:28,720 Joel Odom. They speed towards Tanjebaho Paris to see what 237 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,359 information they could get out of this twenty three year 238 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,319 old victim. So that twenty three year old victim, she 239 00:17:35,519 --> 00:17:40,039 tells McKee the same story regarding her boyfriend and what 240 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:45,279 he told her, and that boyfriend's name was Donnie Fisher. 241 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:50,680 So they look in to Donnie Fisher and this guy, y'all, 242 00:17:50,839 --> 00:17:55,519 he is about as shady as they come. He was 243 00:17:55,559 --> 00:17:58,240 only twenty six years old, yet he had a rap 244 00:17:58,319 --> 00:18:02,200 sheet as long as a free and CVS receipt. He 245 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,799 was a drug dealer, a thief, an armed robber. He's 246 00:18:05,839 --> 00:18:10,200 not exactly the guy you'd want your kids to hang 247 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,720 out with, or you'd want to hang out with if 248 00:18:12,759 --> 00:18:14,440 you were an upstanding citizen. 249 00:18:14,559 --> 00:18:14,799 Speaker 2: Right. 250 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,759 Speaker 1: So they go to talk to Donnie Fisher and they 251 00:18:17,799 --> 00:18:20,839 pull him into the station and they question him and 252 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:26,119 McKee was armed with these crime scene photos and as 253 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,839 they're talking to Donnie Fisher and y'all, this is a 254 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,200 tactic in law enforcement, he starts pulling out those gruesome 255 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:37,519 pictures and he picks the most heart wrenching ones of 256 00:18:37,599 --> 00:18:42,720 Janor's lifeless body on the floor with blood everywhere, her 257 00:18:42,759 --> 00:18:47,720 head barely recognizable, and he slams those photos down on 258 00:18:48,039 --> 00:18:51,440 the table in front of Fisher and he yells did 259 00:18:51,640 --> 00:19:00,400 she deserve this? And right there Fisher breaks and oh, 260 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:06,359 what a story he has to tell. So Fisher reveals 261 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:11,279 that the night after Jenore was murdered, he and his 262 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:16,720 girlfriend moved in with none other than Philip and Amy Skipper, 263 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:21,640 along with a teenager name John Ballelo. And he says 264 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,559 that they were actually hired to clean up Jenior's house 265 00:19:25,839 --> 00:19:30,279 after the murder by Jenior's family, and when they were 266 00:19:30,319 --> 00:19:35,000 all busy with the cleanup, he said, balle Loo casually 267 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:40,559 drops a bombshell about how they took out Jenore. He 268 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:45,680 basically says Balleto spills all the details. He said that 269 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:50,400 Balato said they shot her, stabbed her, and even used 270 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,920 a baseball bat. And it gets worse. He even told 271 00:19:55,039 --> 00:20:02,319 Fisher that post mortem they took turns. He went on 272 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,599 to say that later that night, after they clean up 273 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:10,440 the house, Philip Skipper he's pissed at balle Loo because 274 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:14,359 he heard him telling Fisher all this. So the next day, 275 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,200 Skipper tells Fisher, hey, man, let's go take a ride. 276 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,319 And they get in the car and they start hitting 277 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,960 down these country roads and rural Louisiana right and one 278 00:20:25,039 --> 00:20:28,240 of these roads in particular, is just totally deserted. Nothing 279 00:20:28,319 --> 00:20:30,200 on either side of the road. You're in the middle 280 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,480 of nowhere. And Fisher said, at that point, I thought 281 00:20:33,519 --> 00:20:35,400 he was going to kill me and just dump me 282 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,119 in the middle of nowhere, but he said instead Philip 283 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:44,400 Fisher actually confirmed Ballelow's story, saying what would you think 284 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:48,440 about I told you we killed miss g and Fisher 285 00:20:48,519 --> 00:20:52,759 said he responded with I wouldn't think nothing. You wouldn't 286 00:20:52,799 --> 00:20:57,279 trust me no more. So Philip Skipper kind of ends 287 00:20:57,319 --> 00:21:02,000 the conversation with if if you ever talk, I'm going 288 00:21:02,079 --> 00:21:09,400 to kill you. God forgives, but the Brotherhood don't. And 289 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,160 I'll get back to what the Brotherhood is a little 290 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:17,240 later on in the story. So back to the investigation, 291 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:21,680 and when you're working a murder case and you're a detective, 292 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:28,039 there's three things that you need. You need means, opportunity, 293 00:21:28,839 --> 00:21:34,200 and motive. And guess what, Philip Skipper he had all three. 294 00:21:35,279 --> 00:21:39,839 He lived right across the street, he had easy access 295 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,960 to the weapons, and even had a key to Genoor's 296 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:48,480 house through his wife. But the big question was why 297 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,400 why would he want to kill her? I mean, initially 298 00:21:53,559 --> 00:21:58,680 the Skippers were friends with Jennire, but as the detective 299 00:21:58,799 --> 00:22:02,640 dug deeper, he found out there was a situation that 300 00:22:02,759 --> 00:22:07,039 caused a rift between the Skippers and Jenore and it 301 00:22:07,079 --> 00:22:10,480 came down to a goat of all things, sa McKey. 302 00:22:10,559 --> 00:22:14,000 He discovers that a month before Jenore's death, one of 303 00:22:14,079 --> 00:22:18,759 Jenoor's pitbulls killed a goat that belonged to the Skippers. 304 00:22:19,039 --> 00:22:23,279 So Amy Skipper, the wife, she goes over to Jenoor's 305 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:30,200 house and she basically rips her ass over this over 306 00:22:30,319 --> 00:22:34,839 a goat, to the point that Jenore is crying. The 307 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,559 fight was so intense, in fact, that Jenore told several 308 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:43,039 of her friends after this and even stated that she 309 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:48,240 was done with the Skippers for good. But the detective, 310 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:53,880 he's thinking, there's no way a goat would cause them 311 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:58,599 to murder Jenore so brutally, so he keeps digging and 312 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:03,799 he discovers something else that would be an even larger motive, 313 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,640 and that was a twenty five thousand dollars life insurance 314 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:12,920 policy that Janore had in which Philip and Amy Skipper 315 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,680 were the beneficiaries. So when the detective asked Fisher if 316 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,599 he knew anything about this, Fisher claimed that Philip was 317 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:27,359 actually expecting a larger payout somewhere around one hundred thousand dollars, 318 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,799 and was furious when he found out it was only 319 00:23:30,839 --> 00:23:37,039 a twenty five thousand dollars policy. So that quickly we 320 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:42,160 have motive. So on August eighth of twenty twenty one, McKee, 321 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,039 along with some state troopers and detectives, they gear up 322 00:23:46,079 --> 00:23:49,880 for this big operation at the Skippers trailer. And at 323 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:55,400 this time it's been over a year since Janore was murdered, 324 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,960 so it's a pretty tense situation. So they break down 325 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,160 the door and they they find several things. They find 326 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,799 a stashing knives, they find a couple of baseball bats. 327 00:24:05,839 --> 00:24:10,599 They even find some twenty two caliber ammo, and even 328 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:15,119 a handful of spent shellcasings from a twenty two. Now 329 00:24:15,599 --> 00:24:18,920 that's important because she was stabbed, she was hit with 330 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,400 baseball bats, and she was shot with a twenty two 331 00:24:22,519 --> 00:24:28,000 caliber weapon, and why the hell would you have spent shellcases? Right? 332 00:24:29,599 --> 00:24:33,880 Nobody keeps that, So McKee he doesn't waste any time. 333 00:24:34,039 --> 00:24:37,039 He swoops up the evidence, and then he swoops up 334 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,359 Philip Skipper and he charges him with the first degree 335 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:48,720 murder of Jenoor Guillery. Then a few days later, he's 336 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,680 hot on the trail of balle Loo, who was hiding 337 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,119 out at a friends trailer. But when the cops come 338 00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:00,880 a knocking, balle Lo isn't exactly playing to go down 339 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,519 without a fight, so he makes a run for it 340 00:25:03,599 --> 00:25:07,880 into the woods. But after about thirty minutes of playing 341 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,799 hide and seek the Tingjibahoa deputies, they unleashed the canines 342 00:25:12,839 --> 00:25:17,160 and balle Loo. He don't like the canines. He doesn't 343 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,480 want any of that. He comes out of hiding and 344 00:25:20,559 --> 00:25:25,400 gets arrested. So throughout this story there's someone I haven't 345 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,640 told you about, and this guy is a real piece 346 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,680 of shit. His name is Johnny Hoet, and Hoit probably 347 00:25:32,759 --> 00:25:35,960 had the worst rap sheet of all of these fools. 348 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,119 At just twenty two years old, he already had aggravated 349 00:25:39,319 --> 00:25:44,480 robbery charges, assault charges, just a rap sheet as long 350 00:25:44,759 --> 00:25:47,799 as my arm, and he had the tough guy look. 351 00:25:48,039 --> 00:25:50,720 His head was shaved almost to his scalp. He had 352 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,400 this real thick go tee. He just looked like the 353 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,200 kind of guy that you're not necessarily going to pick 354 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,960 a fight with. Right, pretty intimidating looking guy. But Hoyt 355 00:26:01,079 --> 00:26:06,039 was not your average scumbag. He was also the mastermind 356 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:13,480 of a budding skinhead group called the Brotherhood, and alongside 357 00:26:13,559 --> 00:26:18,559 him were his original crew members guess who, Philip Skipper 358 00:26:18,759 --> 00:26:23,799 and John Blello and these guys they weren't just hanging out, 359 00:26:24,039 --> 00:26:27,559 making up their own little club. Right. They had the 360 00:26:27,799 --> 00:26:33,720 letters g fb D tattooed across their back and guess 361 00:26:33,799 --> 00:26:40,440 what that stood for? God forgives, the Brotherhood doesn't. And 362 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:45,319 according to Donnie Fisher, Hoyt was also involved in the 363 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,680 murder of General or Guillery. So the detective he goes 364 00:26:49,839 --> 00:26:53,279 on the search for Johnny Hoyt and he actually finds 365 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,000 him serving time in a federal prison where he was 366 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,079 placed three months after the murder of Jim Nor for 367 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:06,400 possessing three sought off shotguns by a felon. Here's what happened. 368 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,839 After all the dust settled in this murtyer and everyone 369 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,440 was interviewed and the pieces were pieced together. Philip Skipper 370 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,200 John Ballelo. They hop into Phillip's pickup truck and they 371 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,039 had to Hold in Louisiana. Now Holding is a small town, 372 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:27,160 it's about forty miles from Clinton, and they're on a mission. 373 00:27:27,839 --> 00:27:30,799 They're going there to pick up Johnny Hoyt. So they 374 00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:34,759 pick them up and they head back to Clinton and 375 00:27:34,759 --> 00:27:39,160 they're getting drunk, doing shots, they're doing drugs. They're doing 376 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,880 a ton of value actually, and things take kind of 377 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,920 a dark term when balle Loo he just starts firing 378 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:50,640 a twenty two caliber revolver into the sky and he 379 00:27:50,839 --> 00:27:55,440 turns to Philip and he says, would you like to 380 00:27:55,559 --> 00:28:00,279 kill him? N word? And I'll let you fill that in. So, 381 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,440 once they get back to Skipper's trailer, balle Loo is 382 00:28:04,599 --> 00:28:08,279 so shitfaced he can't hardly get out of the truck. 383 00:28:08,319 --> 00:28:10,400 He steps out of the truck and just busts his 384 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:15,640 ass and then they go into the trailer. But around 385 00:28:15,839 --> 00:28:19,440 one am, Johnny Hoyt he decides to wake up Ballelo 386 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:25,880 from his drunken stupor, and he says, it's time for 387 00:28:26,039 --> 00:28:30,720 you to earn that tattoo on your back, So take 388 00:28:30,759 --> 00:28:33,759 your shoes off so you don't leave no footprints, and 389 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:38,720 let's go. So, with Ballelo leading the charge, they walk 390 00:28:38,839 --> 00:28:41,880 out of the trailer and they walk across that gravel 391 00:28:42,039 --> 00:28:48,079 road and they walk up to Jenoor Guillery's house. So 392 00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:51,799 balle Loo he claims that this was all over an 393 00:28:51,799 --> 00:28:56,000 initiation into the brotherhood, and in his version, it all 394 00:28:56,039 --> 00:29:01,039 went down like this. Lisa, she approaches the side door 395 00:29:01,119 --> 00:29:06,960 of Jenniore's house and y'all, Lisa is Johnny Hoyt's girlfriend, 396 00:29:07,319 --> 00:29:10,480 and she kind of faked that she needed some money, 397 00:29:10,599 --> 00:29:13,880 she needed to buy diapers for her baby, and did 398 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:18,119 Jenore have any money for diapers? And as Jenniore's talking 399 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,480 to her about this, Philip Skipper, Johnny Hoyt and John 400 00:29:22,519 --> 00:29:25,640 balle Loow they're in the background. They're in the shadows 401 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,759 waiting for their opportunity. Jenoor, she's clad in a long 402 00:29:29,839 --> 00:29:34,319 blue nightgown. She's accompanied by her child, and her child's 403 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:40,240 name was Cleo. She answers the door. She's talking to Lisa, 404 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:46,720 and Hoyt jumps into the door and punches Jennore. The dog. 405 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:51,960 The child then lunges at Hoyt. He's defending his owner 406 00:29:52,079 --> 00:29:56,359 right but balle Loo manages to restrain the dog and 407 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,480 he takes the dog and ties the dog with a 408 00:29:58,559 --> 00:30:03,319 rope nowhere, then takes off running. She's trying to get 409 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,119 to something and she grabs the phone in the kitchen. 410 00:30:07,519 --> 00:30:09,960 She grabs her keys at the same time. She runs 411 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,079 to the front door, and the front door is locked, 412 00:30:12,119 --> 00:30:14,759 and she's fumbling with those keys and just drops the 413 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,119 keys on the ground. She finally goes back to the kitchen. 414 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,839 She tries to pick up the phone. It gets slapped 415 00:30:20,839 --> 00:30:23,519 out of her hand, which is why the busy signal 416 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,319 was being reported by her coworkers. Remember I told you 417 00:30:27,359 --> 00:30:30,599 that at the beginning, and there's a trail of blood. 418 00:30:30,759 --> 00:30:34,160 You can just follow her throughout that house. She gets 419 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,200 to that drawer in the kitchen. She opens the drawer, 420 00:30:37,359 --> 00:30:41,319 she grabs a knife, but Hoyt, he's relentless and she's 421 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,480 just unable to defend herself effectively. She takes off running again. 422 00:30:46,039 --> 00:30:49,200 She retreats to that bedroom, and that was pretty much 423 00:30:49,359 --> 00:30:53,319 her last stand. She gets shot in her left hand 424 00:30:53,559 --> 00:30:57,880 and arm. She continues to fight, but ultimately she was 425 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:03,039 stabbed multiple times by Lisa, numerous wounds, one of which 426 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,559 pierced her left long and then, as if that weren't enough, 427 00:31:08,319 --> 00:31:11,440 the perpetrators pick up a ceramic lamp and a couple 428 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,599 of baseball bats to ensure she was dead. Balle Loow 429 00:31:16,839 --> 00:31:20,079 was even quoted as saying she fought all the way 430 00:31:20,359 --> 00:31:23,799 to the end. So the four perpetrators at that time, 431 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,359 they looted the home of the jewelry. They take the dog, 432 00:31:28,559 --> 00:31:31,880 they tie it up right outside the door, and they 433 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,039 returned to the trailer. At this point, they get indicted 434 00:31:36,079 --> 00:31:39,920 for first degree murder and a salw other charges. Philip 435 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,160 Skipper was also charged with the repeated aggravated rape of 436 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:50,400 John Balilo, who they found out he had been raping 437 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,000 after balle Loo had been in his custody for three years. 438 00:31:55,599 --> 00:32:01,200 They also indicted Lisa Hoyt. Now, this involvement in the 439 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,680 brutal martyr of Jenial Gillery surprised even the most hardened 440 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:11,200 investigators at first, but later after Sheriff Bunch figured her out, 441 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:16,279 He's like, that girl is absolutely evil. She comes from 442 00:32:16,319 --> 00:32:20,039 an evil family, now McKee, he didn't quit once the 443 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,039 arrest happened. He kept digging, looking for as many details 444 00:32:24,039 --> 00:32:26,960 as possible about these four killers, and he found out 445 00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:31,200 that less than two weeks after Janior Gillery's murder, a 446 00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:34,039 dope dealer in Saint Helena Parrish, a guy with the 447 00:32:34,079 --> 00:32:37,559 habit of flashing wads of cash, he had been shot 448 00:32:37,559 --> 00:32:40,759 in the head on the gravel Road. Someone then set 449 00:32:40,839 --> 00:32:44,359 the dope dealer and his pickup truck on fire, and 450 00:32:44,599 --> 00:32:48,200 just after that murder, Lisa Hoyt told friends that she 451 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,880 was the one who shot the dealer in the head, 452 00:32:51,119 --> 00:32:54,559 and her husband, Johnny Hoyt, he helped burn the body. 453 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,759 He even found out the four of them also dabbled 454 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,240 in grave robbing. They broke into coffins and they would 455 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,240 steal jewelry, watch his gold teeth from the body of 456 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,720 the dead. Balelo even said it was dirty work. They 457 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,960 would pry open the lid of one coffin spot a 458 00:33:14,079 --> 00:33:16,559 nice ring and when they pulled the ring off, the 459 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:21,119 finger came off with it. What a fucking bunch of 460 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:25,240 sick people. Lisa even bragged to a friend that an 461 00:33:25,319 --> 00:33:28,920 antique watch she wore came from a grave and the 462 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,039 sheriff said they were taking people's teeth and making necklaces 463 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,920 out of them. Wow. So they're sitting in jail and 464 00:33:38,079 --> 00:33:45,319 something very shocking happens. The charges actually get dropped after 465 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,680 the lab results came back. There were no identifiable fingerprints 466 00:33:49,799 --> 00:33:53,880 at the crime scene. The baseball bat McKeith found at 467 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,240 Philip Skipper's trailer had been outside for a year, so 468 00:33:58,359 --> 00:34:03,000 the rain had washed away any DNA evidence that might 469 00:34:03,039 --> 00:34:07,279 have been used on it. The gun used to shoot 470 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,960 Janoor had been a revolver. There were no shell casings 471 00:34:11,039 --> 00:34:13,800 from the crime scene to compare to those that I 472 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:18,559 told you McKee had found in Philip Skipper's trailer, so 473 00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:21,519 they just didn't have anything to compare. According to Ballelo, 474 00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:26,000 the gun itself had been broken into pieces and tossed 475 00:34:26,039 --> 00:34:30,760 into the Amy River and Hoyt, Philip and Lisa, they 476 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,239 all refused to talk. They weren't saying anything. Only Ballelo 477 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,599 was saying all this now. The life insurance policy which 478 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,360 did pay out twenty five thousand of Philip and Amy 479 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,519 Skipper three months out after the murder, it was really 480 00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:51,119 just circumstantial evidence. Just because somebody gets life insurance doesn't 481 00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:54,400 mean they killed somebody. Right, the second and third hand 482 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,000 accounts from people who came forward and said they heard 483 00:34:57,119 --> 00:35:01,079 Philip and others admit to killing Janore Guillery, that was 484 00:35:01,119 --> 00:35:04,800 all considered hearsay in court. The only thing they had 485 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:09,880 was John Ballelow's statement, and that's not you know what 486 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,800 I mean? Is he believable? I mean, this guy's got 487 00:35:13,039 --> 00:35:17,119 kind of a record. He's not exactly someone that a 488 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,920 jury would believe in a lot of cases. But the 489 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,760 cops they want to take it to trial. The DA 490 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:30,079 he didn't. He didn't think there was enough there. So 491 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,199 in January of two thousand and two, four months after 492 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:39,920 their rest guess what. All the charges get dropped, except 493 00:35:40,039 --> 00:35:45,000 for balle Loo because he had confessed during telling the 494 00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:49,960 police about this whole scenario, he gets left in jail. Now, 495 00:35:50,119 --> 00:35:54,039 later that year, voters in East Feliciana their outrage over 496 00:35:54,079 --> 00:35:58,440 this and they end up voting the da out of 497 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,320 office and put in a year aggressive new district attorney 498 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,039 who was still the district attorney incidentally in East Feliciana parish. 499 00:36:06,119 --> 00:36:09,400 His name was Sam d'aquilla, and I've actually met him, 500 00:36:09,519 --> 00:36:15,079 he's been in the studio now. Before Daquilla's election, Sheriff 501 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,559 Bunch extracted a promise from the aspiring district attorney that 502 00:36:19,639 --> 00:36:22,000 if he got elected, he would take a fresh look 503 00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:26,840 at the Guillery case. And he also lobbied Dquilla pretty hard. 504 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,760 He wanted the case prosecuted, and Daquilla wanted it prosecuted 505 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:35,079 as well. McKee said that Daquilla was on board from 506 00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:39,239 the get go. Now, unlike other prosecutors, Daquilla wasn't afraid 507 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,280 to take a chance, and as soon as he took office, 508 00:36:42,599 --> 00:36:46,960 he reopened that Guillery case. Although he knew the case 509 00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:51,320 had problems, he wanted a jury to decide it. So 510 00:36:51,519 --> 00:36:57,000 Daquilla charges all four with second degree murder. It was 511 00:36:57,119 --> 00:37:01,519 a simpler charge to prove and less cause to prosecute 512 00:37:01,559 --> 00:37:04,800 the first degree murder. The charge didn't allow for the 513 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:09,320 death penalty, but in Louisiana, second degree murder does carry 514 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:14,199 a mandatory life sentence, and life means life in Louisiana. 515 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,719 So he then offers a deal to John Ballelo. He 516 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,280 had been in jail since his arrest in August of 517 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,599 two thousand and one, and he basically told balle Loo, look, 518 00:37:23,679 --> 00:37:28,159 if you'll testify against the other three, Daquila would let 519 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,400 him plead guilty as a juvenile and recommend a sentence 520 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,159 of juvenile life, which would get him out of jail 521 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,599 on his twenty first birthday. And it's important to note 522 00:37:37,679 --> 00:37:43,039 without Ballelo's testimony, Daquilla has nothing. He has nothing. That's 523 00:37:43,079 --> 00:37:46,079 the only person that witnessed any of this right. So 524 00:37:46,119 --> 00:37:48,320 he had to cut a deal with the devil, basically, 525 00:37:48,639 --> 00:37:50,840 and he said, we tried to make the best case 526 00:37:51,039 --> 00:37:53,639 that we could, and in July two thousand and four, 527 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:58,199 in East Feliciana jury they find Philip Skipper guilty of 528 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,440 second degree murder Johnny Hoyd. He then goes on trial 529 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,880 in February of two thousand and five, and guess what, 530 00:38:05,119 --> 00:38:09,360 He's also found guilty of second degree murder and both 531 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:16,239 were sentenced to life in prison. In Bloody Angla, now 532 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,039 Lisa Hoyd, she pleads guilty to manslaughter and she gets 533 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:24,679 sentenced to the maximum of manslaughter which is forty years 534 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:29,079 in prison. And in exchange for his testimony, Ballele was 535 00:38:29,119 --> 00:38:33,039 prosecuted as a juvenile. He pled guilty to second degree 536 00:38:33,119 --> 00:38:36,519 murder was sentenced to What's none as juvenile life. No 537 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:41,280 charges were ever filed against Amy Skipper. Both Don McKee 538 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,480 and Sam Daquilla were convinced that she didn't play any 539 00:38:44,519 --> 00:38:49,480 part in Jenore Guillory's murder. When asked what he thinks 540 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:54,960 of them, meaning Johnny and Lisa and Philip, Sam Dequilla 541 00:38:55,079 --> 00:38:59,360 shook his head and said, those are some evil people 542 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:05,679 and that is the tragic story of miss Jenor Guillery 543 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:11,960 and the incarceration and Bloody Andngla of those who killed her. 544 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,639 Thank you so much for listening. I'm about to get 545 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,519 real active with the Patreon so check it out, check 546 00:39:19,559 --> 00:39:22,119 us out on Facebook, give us a follow. Please rate 547 00:39:22,159 --> 00:39:25,239 the podcast if you have not yet done so, and 548 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:30,800 you're enjoying the content. And until next time, I'm Jim 549 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,280 Chapman for Bloody and Gola, a podcast one and forty 550 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,920 two years in the making, the complete story of America's 551 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,360 bloodiest present Peace. 552 00:39:56,039 --> 00:40:06,559 Speaker 2: A Wall Street Line, Shackle, Change, Oh, Gluesome Gird. It's 553 00:40:06,679 --> 00:40:12,760 calling by the name, there is no mercy and it's 554 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:20,360 been a tentery juice. As the huge stream game Rango 555 00:40:20,639 --> 00:40:22,639 the three. 556 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 1: I'm here behind. 557 00:40:26,559 --> 00:40:34,760 Speaker 3: By, here to die, inside these walls, inside the wild 558 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:55,000 and when the wars I know it's Aboody Angle, obody Angle, 559 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:07,880 the bad and bad